Guest guest Posted March 6, 2006 Report Share Posted March 6, 2006 Out of curiousity . . . does anyone know if SCD can " pull " metals that have crossed the blood/brain barrier? The chelator Elle is on, dmsa, is unable to reach the metals in this area. I am hoping you will tell me that SCD can do it because the one I know that can reach metals there is ALA (which is a huge problem for yeast, and I would like to avoid it). By the way, to keep everyone posted. You can continue to celebrate with us. Elle is passing bowels on her own with more frequency and they are formed with good color and no undigested stool. We are thrilled with her progress and are hoping this pattern continues. Jeni Lynn SCD 2 weeks mom to Elle, 17 mo. (leaky gut, eczema, heavy metal toxicity) SCD 3 months Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 6, 2006 Report Share Posted March 6, 2006 Out of curiousity . . . does anyone know if SCD can " pull " metals that have crossed the blood/brain barrier? The chelator Elle is on, dmsa, is unable to reach the metals in this area. I am hoping you will tell me that SCD can do it because the one I know that can reach metals there is ALA (which is a huge problem for yeast, and I would like to avoid it). By the way, to keep everyone posted. You can continue to celebrate with us. Elle is passing bowels on her own with more frequency and they are formed with good color and no undigested stool. We are thrilled with her progress and are hoping this pattern continues. Jeni Lynn SCD 2 weeks mom to Elle, 17 mo. (leaky gut, eczema, heavy metal toxicity) SCD 3 months Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 6, 2006 Report Share Posted March 6, 2006 I personally would not depend on diet alone to provide the heavy metal excretion that my child needs. Yes, it may be possible that SCD could support excretion of current exposures, but I highly doubt that it would chelate the stores of mercury, lead and other metals that are stored in his tissue and brain. We have been chelating for a year now. The transdermal(TD) creams seem to be a nice slow and steady method of chelation, without the issue of creating gut pathogens. As far as cost, my son's health insurance actually covers my son's compounded TD-DMPS, TD-ALA, TD-glutathione and methyl b12 shots. We have to pay a $40 co-pay. Becky mom to Noah (6, HFA) and (3, NT) SCD start day was today! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 6, 2006 Report Share Posted March 6, 2006 I personally would not depend on diet alone to provide the heavy metal excretion that my child needs. Yes, it may be possible that SCD could support excretion of current exposures, but I highly doubt that it would chelate the stores of mercury, lead and other metals that are stored in his tissue and brain. We have been chelating for a year now. The transdermal(TD) creams seem to be a nice slow and steady method of chelation, without the issue of creating gut pathogens. As far as cost, my son's health insurance actually covers my son's compounded TD-DMPS, TD-ALA, TD-glutathione and methyl b12 shots. We have to pay a $40 co-pay. Becky mom to Noah (6, HFA) and (3, NT) SCD start day was today! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 6, 2006 Report Share Posted March 6, 2006 I personally would not depend on diet alone to provide the heavy metal excretion that my child needs. Yes, it may be possible that SCD could support excretion of current exposures, but I highly doubt that it would chelate the stores of mercury, lead and other metals that are stored in his tissue and brain. We have been chelating for a year now. The transdermal(TD) creams seem to be a nice slow and steady method of chelation, without the issue of creating gut pathogens. As far as cost, my son's health insurance actually covers my son's compounded TD-DMPS, TD-ALA, TD-glutathione and methyl b12 shots. We have to pay a $40 co-pay. Becky mom to Noah (6, HFA) and (3, NT) SCD start day was today! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 6, 2006 Report Share Posted March 6, 2006 The chelator Elle is on, dmsa, > is unable to reach the metals in this area. I am hoping you will tell > me that SCD can do it because the one I know that can reach metals > there is ALA (which is a huge problem for yeast, and I would like to > avoid it). I said in an earlier post that my son gets a transdermal ALA, so less likely to cause yeast. I don't know if the TD solution works as well as the oral, but it is an option. Becky mom to Noah (6, HFA) and (3, NT) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 6, 2006 Report Share Posted March 6, 2006 The chelator Elle is on, dmsa, > is unable to reach the metals in this area. I am hoping you will tell > me that SCD can do it because the one I know that can reach metals > there is ALA (which is a huge problem for yeast, and I would like to > avoid it). I said in an earlier post that my son gets a transdermal ALA, so less likely to cause yeast. I don't know if the TD solution works as well as the oral, but it is an option. Becky mom to Noah (6, HFA) and (3, NT) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 6, 2006 Report Share Posted March 6, 2006 The chelator Elle is on, dmsa, > is unable to reach the metals in this area. I am hoping you will tell > me that SCD can do it because the one I know that can reach metals > there is ALA (which is a huge problem for yeast, and I would like to > avoid it). I said in an earlier post that my son gets a transdermal ALA, so less likely to cause yeast. I don't know if the TD solution works as well as the oral, but it is an option. Becky mom to Noah (6, HFA) and (3, NT) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 6, 2006 Report Share Posted March 6, 2006 Of course. Becky mom to Noah (6, HFA) and (3, NT) > > Thanks for your quick response. If it is OK, I may contact you off-list > to inquire more about your experience. > > Jeni Lynn > SCD 2 weeks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 6, 2006 Report Share Posted March 6, 2006 Of course. Becky mom to Noah (6, HFA) and (3, NT) > > Thanks for your quick response. If it is OK, I may contact you off-list > to inquire more about your experience. > > Jeni Lynn > SCD 2 weeks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 6, 2006 Report Share Posted March 6, 2006 Thanks for your quick response. If it is OK, I may contact you off-list to inquire more about your experience. Jeni Lynn SCD 2 weeks RE: Re: Detox w/diet only? Or add chelation? The chelator Elle is on, dmsa, > is unable to reach the metals in this area. I am hoping you will tell > me that SCD can do it because the one I know that can reach metals > there is ALA (which is a huge problem for yeast, and I would like to > avoid it). I said in an earlier post that my son gets a transdermal ALA, so less likely to cause yeast. I don't know if the TD solution works as well as the oral, but it is an option. Becky mom to Noah (6, HFA) and (3, NT) For information on the Specific Carbohydrate Diet, please read the book _Breaking the Vicious Cycle_ by Elaine Gottschall and read the following websites: http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.infohttp://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info/\ > and http://www.pecanbread.comhttp://www.pecanbread.com/> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 6, 2006 Report Share Posted March 6, 2006 Thanks for your quick response. If it is OK, I may contact you off-list to inquire more about your experience. Jeni Lynn SCD 2 weeks RE: Re: Detox w/diet only? Or add chelation? The chelator Elle is on, dmsa, > is unable to reach the metals in this area. I am hoping you will tell > me that SCD can do it because the one I know that can reach metals > there is ALA (which is a huge problem for yeast, and I would like to > avoid it). I said in an earlier post that my son gets a transdermal ALA, so less likely to cause yeast. I don't know if the TD solution works as well as the oral, but it is an option. Becky mom to Noah (6, HFA) and (3, NT) For information on the Specific Carbohydrate Diet, please read the book _Breaking the Vicious Cycle_ by Elaine Gottschall and read the following websites: http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.infohttp://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info/\ > and http://www.pecanbread.comhttp://www.pecanbread.com/> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 6, 2006 Report Share Posted March 6, 2006 > > Jen, > > My impressions from researching for years and a combination of personal experience of not only us, but of friends undergoing this therapy has brought me to these conclusions. > snipped for brevity This has to be one of the best posts I've read in many months, Gertrude. I wish Elaine could be here to see it. Carol F. SCD 6 years, celiac Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 6, 2006 Report Share Posted March 6, 2006 > > Jen, > > My impressions from researching for years and a combination of personal experience of not only us, but of friends undergoing this therapy has brought me to these conclusions. > snipped for brevity This has to be one of the best posts I've read in many months, Gertrude. I wish Elaine could be here to see it. Carol F. SCD 6 years, celiac Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 6, 2006 Report Share Posted March 6, 2006 > > Jen, > > My impressions from researching for years and a combination of personal experience of not only us, but of friends undergoing this therapy has brought me to these conclusions. > snipped for brevity This has to be one of the best posts I've read in many months, Gertrude. I wish Elaine could be here to see it. Carol F. SCD 6 years, celiac Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 6, 2006 Report Share Posted March 6, 2006 Since we are on the topic of heavy metal toxicity, what is the MOST accurate way to determine if one IS toxic? V. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 6, 2006 Report Share Posted March 6, 2006 Since we are on the topic of heavy metal toxicity, what is the MOST accurate way to determine if one IS toxic? V. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 6, 2006 Report Share Posted March 6, 2006 Since we are on the topic of heavy metal toxicity, what is the MOST accurate way to determine if one IS toxic? V. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 6, 2006 Report Share Posted March 6, 2006 Dear Summer, I was very interested in what you wrote. In the pieces below, are you saying that SCD will cross the blood/brain barrier to pull metals in this area. I just wanted to make sure that I understand you correctly. Thanks! Jeni Lynn SCD 2 weeks mom to Elle, 17 mo. (leaky gut, heavy metal toxicity, eczema) SCD 3 months But meanwhile, much of the metal store in the bones, brain and rest of the nervous system start moving a little, " mobilization " . This happens because, it is the body's own detoxification mechanism at work. Only so much metal will be released in the blood at once, so the body can attempt to detoxify it and excrete it. Then the body lets out a little more, adding what is coming in through diet and environment. Meanwhile, doing SCD, and healing the gut, and increasing the manufacture of glutathione made in the body, will ultimately help to clear the body of these extra metals, at a pace it can handle, without unduely wearing out the kidneys which is another associated problems with chelation and autism. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 6, 2006 Report Share Posted March 6, 2006 Dear Summer, I was very interested in what you wrote. In the pieces below, are you saying that SCD will cross the blood/brain barrier to pull metals in this area. I just wanted to make sure that I understand you correctly. Thanks! Jeni Lynn SCD 2 weeks mom to Elle, 17 mo. (leaky gut, heavy metal toxicity, eczema) SCD 3 months But meanwhile, much of the metal store in the bones, brain and rest of the nervous system start moving a little, " mobilization " . This happens because, it is the body's own detoxification mechanism at work. Only so much metal will be released in the blood at once, so the body can attempt to detoxify it and excrete it. Then the body lets out a little more, adding what is coming in through diet and environment. Meanwhile, doing SCD, and healing the gut, and increasing the manufacture of glutathione made in the body, will ultimately help to clear the body of these extra metals, at a pace it can handle, without unduely wearing out the kidneys which is another associated problems with chelation and autism. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 6, 2006 Report Share Posted March 6, 2006 Dear Summer, I was very interested in what you wrote. In the pieces below, are you saying that SCD will cross the blood/brain barrier to pull metals in this area. I just wanted to make sure that I understand you correctly. Thanks! Jeni Lynn SCD 2 weeks mom to Elle, 17 mo. (leaky gut, heavy metal toxicity, eczema) SCD 3 months But meanwhile, much of the metal store in the bones, brain and rest of the nervous system start moving a little, " mobilization " . This happens because, it is the body's own detoxification mechanism at work. Only so much metal will be released in the blood at once, so the body can attempt to detoxify it and excrete it. Then the body lets out a little more, adding what is coming in through diet and environment. Meanwhile, doing SCD, and healing the gut, and increasing the manufacture of glutathione made in the body, will ultimately help to clear the body of these extra metals, at a pace it can handle, without unduely wearing out the kidneys which is another associated problems with chelation and autism. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 6, 2006 Report Share Posted March 6, 2006 Hey ! My name is Jeni Lynn. We live in Staunton . . . not far from you. Charlottesville, right? I don't know what the most accurate way is to determine whether you are toxic or not if you are not chelating with chelators. Our DAN had us send out hair analysis on our kids. She also had us do a " chelation challenge " with TD-DMSA and then tested the urine to see what was excreted. This verifies the presence of toxins as well as helps gauge an individual's response to the chelator. My daughter also had blood tests done by our pediatrician which showed toxic levels of lead in her blood (however, blood is not an accurate way to test if the individual's exposure was long ago). If one is not chelating, then I am not sure how you would know if you are toxic. I am terribly interested in finding out myself. I suspect that I am toxic, but I don't know for sure. Since I don't have definitive plans for chelating myself (other than SCD), I don't know how I would ever know. Welcome to the group! Jeni Lynn SCD 2 weeks mom to Margeaux, 5 yr. (heavy metal toxicity, gastrointestinal problems) , 3 yr. (gastrointestinal problems) Elle, 17 mo. (leaky gut, heavy metal toxicity, eczema) SCD 3 months Re: Detox w/diet only? Or add chelation? Since we are on the topic of heavy metal toxicity, what is the MOST accurate way to determine if one IS toxic? V. For information on the Specific Carbohydrate Diet, please read the book _Breaking the Vicious Cycle_ by Elaine Gottschall and read the following websites: http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.infohttp://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info/\ > and http://www.pecanbread.comhttp://www.pecanbread.com/> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 6, 2006 Report Share Posted March 6, 2006 Hey ! My name is Jeni Lynn. We live in Staunton . . . not far from you. Charlottesville, right? I don't know what the most accurate way is to determine whether you are toxic or not if you are not chelating with chelators. Our DAN had us send out hair analysis on our kids. She also had us do a " chelation challenge " with TD-DMSA and then tested the urine to see what was excreted. This verifies the presence of toxins as well as helps gauge an individual's response to the chelator. My daughter also had blood tests done by our pediatrician which showed toxic levels of lead in her blood (however, blood is not an accurate way to test if the individual's exposure was long ago). If one is not chelating, then I am not sure how you would know if you are toxic. I am terribly interested in finding out myself. I suspect that I am toxic, but I don't know for sure. Since I don't have definitive plans for chelating myself (other than SCD), I don't know how I would ever know. Welcome to the group! Jeni Lynn SCD 2 weeks mom to Margeaux, 5 yr. (heavy metal toxicity, gastrointestinal problems) , 3 yr. (gastrointestinal problems) Elle, 17 mo. (leaky gut, heavy metal toxicity, eczema) SCD 3 months Re: Detox w/diet only? Or add chelation? Since we are on the topic of heavy metal toxicity, what is the MOST accurate way to determine if one IS toxic? V. For information on the Specific Carbohydrate Diet, please read the book _Breaking the Vicious Cycle_ by Elaine Gottschall and read the following websites: http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.infohttp://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info/\ > and http://www.pecanbread.comhttp://www.pecanbread.com/> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 6, 2006 Report Share Posted March 6, 2006 Hey ! My name is Jeni Lynn. We live in Staunton . . . not far from you. Charlottesville, right? I don't know what the most accurate way is to determine whether you are toxic or not if you are not chelating with chelators. Our DAN had us send out hair analysis on our kids. She also had us do a " chelation challenge " with TD-DMSA and then tested the urine to see what was excreted. This verifies the presence of toxins as well as helps gauge an individual's response to the chelator. My daughter also had blood tests done by our pediatrician which showed toxic levels of lead in her blood (however, blood is not an accurate way to test if the individual's exposure was long ago). If one is not chelating, then I am not sure how you would know if you are toxic. I am terribly interested in finding out myself. I suspect that I am toxic, but I don't know for sure. Since I don't have definitive plans for chelating myself (other than SCD), I don't know how I would ever know. Welcome to the group! Jeni Lynn SCD 2 weeks mom to Margeaux, 5 yr. (heavy metal toxicity, gastrointestinal problems) , 3 yr. (gastrointestinal problems) Elle, 17 mo. (leaky gut, heavy metal toxicity, eczema) SCD 3 months Re: Detox w/diet only? Or add chelation? Since we are on the topic of heavy metal toxicity, what is the MOST accurate way to determine if one IS toxic? V. For information on the Specific Carbohydrate Diet, please read the book _Breaking the Vicious Cycle_ by Elaine Gottschall and read the following websites: http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.infohttp://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info/\ > and http://www.pecanbread.comhttp://www.pecanbread.com/> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 6, 2006 Report Share Posted March 6, 2006 Hi there, Jenni! We're practically neighbors!!! C'Ville is correct! First off, what is a DAN??? I spoke with a Naturopath (sp?) today, and he said that blood testing is more accurate than hair, but we were talking about my 10 month old son... His level was below " 4 " for mercury, and that was all I tested for. We didn't do lead, because we live in a newer home. Perhaps we should?! V. > > Hey ! My name is Jeni Lynn. We live in Staunton . . . not far from you. Charlottesville, right? > > I don't know what the most accurate way is to determine whether you are toxic or not if you are not chelating with chelators. > > Our DAN had us send out hair analysis on our kids. She also had us do a " chelation challenge " with TD-DMSA and then tested the urine to see what was excreted. This verifies the presence of toxins as well as helps gauge an individual's response to the chelator. My daughter also had blood tests done by our pediatrician which showed toxic levels of lead in her blood (however, blood is not an accurate way to test if the individual's exposure was long ago). > > If one is not chelating, then I am not sure how you would know if you are toxic. I am terribly interested in finding out myself. I suspect that I am toxic, but I don't know for sure. Since I don't have definitive plans for chelating myself (other than SCD), I don't know how I would ever know. > > Welcome to the group! > > Jeni Lynn > SCD 2 weeks > mom to Margeaux, 5 yr. (heavy metal toxicity, gastrointestinal problems) > , 3 yr. (gastrointestinal problems) > Elle, 17 mo. (leaky gut, heavy metal toxicity, eczema) > SCD 3 months > Re: Detox w/diet only? Or add chelation? > > > Since we are on the topic of heavy metal toxicity, what is the MOST accurate way to > determine if one IS toxic? > > V. > > > > > > > > For information on the Specific Carbohydrate Diet, please read the book _Breaking the Vicious Cycle_ by Elaine Gottschall and read the following websites: > http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.infohttp://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info/\ > > and > http://www.pecanbread.comhttp://www.pecanbread.com/> > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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