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I've been very pleased with how and have progressed in this

area. A couple of years ago, ' uncle asked him to sign over the cash

benefits to ' life insurance. said, " I'll have to ask my mom

about that. " Of course, I explained to , when he did ask me, what that

insurance was for and why he shouldn't sign it over to anyone, even me. A

few weeks ago, and were taking out the garbage when they were

approached by a man on foot who invited them over to his house for " ice

cream and cake. " told me about it. She said she just told him " You're

a stranger " and the guy left.

grew up in Watts and has a lot of street smarts. He has taught

more than I ever did with my lectures and little plays. has taught

how to read. They're good for each other.

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female, and made you into nations and tribes, that ye may know each

other ... " al-Qur'an 49:13

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> You are right there, Granny, our kids are more vulnerable to being

> mistreated. Something we all need to be aware of. Jessie

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> In a message dated 09/25/2001 10:10:54 AM Eastern Daylight Time,

> bspyle@... writes:

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> << grew up in Watts and has a lot of street smarts. >>

> And he learned those street smarts from other kids with disabilities?

> Cheryl in VA

Depends on your definition of disabilities, I guess. If you count poverty,

drug addiction and the entire spectrum of developmental disabilities, then

the answer is yes.

granny

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" O mankind! We created you from a single (pair) of a male and a

female, and made you into nations and tribes, that ye may know each

other ... " al-Qur'an 49:13

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> In a message dated 09/25/2001 10:10:54 AM Eastern Daylight Time,

> bspyle@... writes:

>

> << grew up in Watts and has a lot of street smarts. >>

> And he learned those street smarts from other kids with disabilities?

> Cheryl in VA

Depends on your definition of disabilities, I guess. If you count poverty,

drug addiction and the entire spectrum of developmental disabilities, then

the answer is yes.

granny

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" O mankind! We created you from a single (pair) of a male and a

female, and made you into nations and tribes, that ye may know each

other ... " al-Qur'an 49:13

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I bought a wonderful tape at the NDSC convention once. It was by Dr. Jean

who did a workshop on how to prevent victimization of persons with

DD. (dh) attended the workshop and I listened to the tape and read

his notes. One of the things she pointed out was not having teachers, paras

(aides), or parents reach over the kids from behind. She says this takes

away a natural human reaction against predators. I really liked the Circle

of Intimacy ?? in which you explain behavior that is appropriate with each

person is a great idea. is very vulnerable to other kids when he is

lonely. That is what scares me when he becomes an adult. One of the local

ladies here says she is having difficulty explaining to her adult son that

he is not to give away his money. He has a job and earns it and people tend

to " borrow " it. Shameful.

Elaine

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> In a message dated 9/24/01 9:01:07 AM Central Daylight Time,

> bspyle@... writes:

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> > How sad. Both and have had this sort of problem with their

> > " inclusion " acquaintances. Even some cousins. Tans my hide. They are

much

> > better off socializing with their handicapped friends.

> >

> > granny

>

> HI Granny :)

>

> Got a question, how can being surrounded socially with your own image,

help

> as an adult in the work world? Sara has to have the social skills to

perform

> her job in the " typical " world. She already has no interest in working

with

> her same....she wants to work at the Gap right now :)

>

> We as parents really need to try and envision where our kids will be at as

> adults. I will not set limits for Sara at age 9, so all I can do right now

is

> make sure she gets a well rounded education, the three R's and developing

> good social skills :)

>

> Kathy mom to Sara 9

>

>

> Click reply to all for messages to go to the list. Just hit reply for

messages to go to the sender of the message.

>

>

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I bought a wonderful tape at the NDSC convention once. It was by Dr. Jean

who did a workshop on how to prevent victimization of persons with

DD. (dh) attended the workshop and I listened to the tape and read

his notes. One of the things she pointed out was not having teachers, paras

(aides), or parents reach over the kids from behind. She says this takes

away a natural human reaction against predators. I really liked the Circle

of Intimacy ?? in which you explain behavior that is appropriate with each

person is a great idea. is very vulnerable to other kids when he is

lonely. That is what scares me when he becomes an adult. One of the local

ladies here says she is having difficulty explaining to her adult son that

he is not to give away his money. He has a job and earns it and people tend

to " borrow " it. Shameful.

Elaine

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> In a message dated 9/24/01 9:01:07 AM Central Daylight Time,

> bspyle@... writes:

>

> > How sad. Both and have had this sort of problem with their

> > " inclusion " acquaintances. Even some cousins. Tans my hide. They are

much

> > better off socializing with their handicapped friends.

> >

> > granny

>

> HI Granny :)

>

> Got a question, how can being surrounded socially with your own image,

help

> as an adult in the work world? Sara has to have the social skills to

perform

> her job in the " typical " world. She already has no interest in working

with

> her same....she wants to work at the Gap right now :)

>

> We as parents really need to try and envision where our kids will be at as

> adults. I will not set limits for Sara at age 9, so all I can do right now

is

> make sure she gets a well rounded education, the three R's and developing

> good social skills :)

>

> Kathy mom to Sara 9

>

>

> Click reply to all for messages to go to the list. Just hit reply for

messages to go to the sender of the message.

>

>

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I think the answer to this problem of who our kids want to be friends with

is to give them the opportunity to make up their own minds! If they only

ever mix with other kids with SEN then they haven't had the choice and

likewise if they only mix with typical kids then they haven't had the

choice. But at the end of the day if they have the opportunity to mix with

all kinds of people then they can make that choice for themselves. And we

have to lump it, something I find hard to do!! Some of tims friends are not

to my liking!!! At the end of the day tho, I would want to think that my

kids could get on with anyone but I wouldn't expect them to be friends with

everyone, proper friendship takes work and we only invest that in a few

people usually.

sue wong

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I think the answer to this problem of who our kids want to be friends with

is to give them the opportunity to make up their own minds! If they only

ever mix with other kids with SEN then they haven't had the choice and

likewise if they only mix with typical kids then they haven't had the

choice. But at the end of the day if they have the opportunity to mix with

all kinds of people then they can make that choice for themselves. And we

have to lump it, something I find hard to do!! Some of tims friends are not

to my liking!!! At the end of the day tho, I would want to think that my

kids could get on with anyone but I wouldn't expect them to be friends with

everyone, proper friendship takes work and we only invest that in a few

people usually.

sue wong

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Right, they have to have a choice. One of 's best friends is a

fellow who works at the Rec. center where we take Art classes. He is a fair

amount older than but very good with him. takes new books to

show him, and they spend a lot of time going over cook books, for instance.

Marty also is a Kansas Jayhawks fan and he went with us to visit basketball

practice one time. So they talk basketball and other sports. Neither of

them likes football. They also like Harley stuff. They also talk on the

phone sometimes. I think Marty is a pretty nice guy too.

Jessie

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Right, they have to have a choice. One of 's best friends is a

fellow who works at the Rec. center where we take Art classes. He is a fair

amount older than but very good with him. takes new books to

show him, and they spend a lot of time going over cook books, for instance.

Marty also is a Kansas Jayhawks fan and he went with us to visit basketball

practice one time. So they talk basketball and other sports. Neither of

them likes football. They also like Harley stuff. They also talk on the

phone sometimes. I think Marty is a pretty nice guy too.

Jessie

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I agree, Sue. I made sure and are exposed to a wide variety of

people and let them make up their own minds.

gem

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> I think the answer to this problem of who our kids want to be friends with

> is to give them the opportunity to make up their own minds! If they only

> ever mix with other kids with SEN then they haven't had the choice and

> likewise if they only mix with typical kids then they haven't had the

> choice. But at the end of the day if they have the opportunity to mix

with

> all kinds of people then they can make that choice for themselves. And we

> have to lump it, something I find hard to do!! Some of tims friends are

not

> to my liking!!! At the end of the day tho, I would want to think that my

> kids could get on with anyone but I wouldn't expect them to be friends

with

> everyone, proper friendship takes work and we only invest that in a few

> people usually.

>

> sue wong

>

>

>

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I agree, Sue. I made sure and are exposed to a wide variety of

people and let them make up their own minds.

gem

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" The first casualty of war is truth. "

-- Rudyard Kipling

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http://www.bspyle.com

http://www.bspyle.com/granny.html

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> I think the answer to this problem of who our kids want to be friends with

> is to give them the opportunity to make up their own minds! If they only

> ever mix with other kids with SEN then they haven't had the choice and

> likewise if they only mix with typical kids then they haven't had the

> choice. But at the end of the day if they have the opportunity to mix

with

> all kinds of people then they can make that choice for themselves. And we

> have to lump it, something I find hard to do!! Some of tims friends are

not

> to my liking!!! At the end of the day tho, I would want to think that my

> kids could get on with anyone but I wouldn't expect them to be friends

with

> everyone, proper friendship takes work and we only invest that in a few

> people usually.

>

> sue wong

>

>

>

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congrats on the loss Christy! You rockin'! And no you don't get to

leave, till the last one of us gets to goal......nobody gets left

behind. gee, I'm bossy today! Have a great party!

Love eleanora

> Happy Saturday to all. Today I'm hosting a birthday party for my

son at the bowling alley. Should be fun. I was shopping for party

supplies, treats, etc. last night at Wal-Mart and hit the jackpot.

They were just reducing their Halloween stuff when I was there. I

got Halloween oreos for $1.00, Halloween sugar cookies for 50 cents,

and an assortment of cups, napkins, plates, etc. dirt cheap.

Needless to say, 's party took on a holiday theme.

> Scale says I'm down another pound. That makes 96!!!!! Hey, when I

hit 100 are you guys gonna kick me out? Well, I should go do a

tape. Maybe Dance Your Pants Off. Hope everyone has a wonderful day!

> Christy

> " Self Control is knowing that you can, but deciding that you won't. "

>

> " Form good habits; they're as hard to break as bad ones. "

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Way to go Christy!!!!

Christy wrote:

Happy

Saturday to all. Today I'm hosting a birthday party for my

son at the bowling alley. Should be fun. I was shopping for

party supplies, treats, etc. last night at Wal-Mart and hit the jackpot.

They were just reducing their Halloween stuff when I was there. I

got Halloween oreos for $1.00, Halloween sugar cookies for 50 cents, and

an assortment of cups, napkins, plates, etc. dirt cheap. Needless

to say, 's party took on a holiday theme.Scale says I'm down another

pound. That makes 96!!!!! Hey, when I hit 100 are you guys

gonna kick me out? Well, I should go do a tape. Maybe Dance

Your Pants Off. Hope everyone has a wonderful day!Christy"Self Control

is knowing that you can, but deciding that you won't." "Form good

habits; they're as hard to break as bad ones."

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Christy I am so happy for you!!!!!!!!!! That is GREAT that you are almost to 100 pounds!!!!!!!!!!! CONGRATULATIONS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Kim

-- today

Happy Saturday to all. Today I'm hosting a birthday party for my son at the bowling alley. Should be fun. I was shopping for party supplies, treats, etc. last night at Wal-Mart and hit the jackpot. They were just reducing their Halloween stuff when I was there. I got Halloween oreos for $1.00, Halloween sugar cookies for 50 cents, and an assortment of cups, napkins, plates, etc. dirt cheap. Needless to say, 's party took on a holiday theme.

Scale says I'm down another pound. That makes 96!!!!! Hey, when I hit 100 are you guys gonna kick me out? Well, I should go do a tape. Maybe Dance Your Pants Off. Hope everyone has a wonderful day!

Christy

"Self Control is knowing that you can, but deciding that you won't."

"Form good habits; they're as hard to break as bad ones."

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> Did anyone have trouble reading this the first time I sent it

I didn't even *get* it the first time. Harumph.

I hope you have those Oreos and candy well hid from yourself, little missy!

We can't have you sabotaging all the good work you've done the past year. :)

Sue in NJ

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> I didn't even *get* it the first time. Harumph.

Correction - I got it about 10 messages *after* that one. A lot of my mail

was scattered around this morning, with replies coming before the originals,

etc. The Gremlins strike again!

Sue in NJ

waving a lucky charm in front of the monitor

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You should see the loot my kids have. I can't even lift their bags. See the problem is (and this is the Meridia working, I'm sure) that if it's there, I'll pick at it, but if it's not there, I don't miss it or crave it or anything like that. Solution? DON'T HAVE IT AROUND! I think I'll break my "no food upstairs" rule and have the kids keep those bags in their rooms.

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> Did anyone have trouble reading this the first time I sent itI didn't even *get* it the first time. Harumph.I hope you have those Oreos and candy well hid from yourself, little missy!We can't have you sabotaging all the good work you've done the past year. :)Sue in NJ

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I agree. I gave my family the choice: you may hide it or I will give

it away. I seldom eat candy, but sometimes when a person is overtired

they can get into a feeding frenzy and eat any fool thing they find.

We had a four year old girl in Vancouver die on halloween, they think

she was poisoned, but have to do an autopsy to find out for sure. So

they are telling everyone there to not give the kids their candy till

they have done that.

Eleanora

> > Did anyone have trouble reading this the first time I sent it

>

> I didn't even *get* it the first time. Harumph.

>

>

> I hope you have those Oreos and candy well hid from yourself,

little missy!

> We can't have you sabotaging all the good work you've done the past

year. :)

>

>

> Sue in NJ

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hyuk! so does it help to wave cereal in front of the monitor?

lol This just was so visual, you gave me a good chuckle.Thanks Sue!

Eleanora

>

> Sue in NJ

> waving a lucky charm in front of the monitor

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Christy.... I am the same way... if it is not around, I'm okay.

But, only one of my kids are old enough (or responsible enough with food)

to keep it in their rooms... Otherwise, they will eat it like crazy.

I am not doing so bad with the Halloween candy as I am the stuff from Miriam's

Birthday party. I have gotten rid of alot of it (some went into 's

garbage disposal). I don't know what exactly to do.

Christy wrote:

You

should see the loot my kids have. I can't even lift their bags.

See the problem is (and this is the Meridia working, I'm sure) that if

it's there, I'll pick at it, but if it's not there, I don't miss it or

crave it or anything like that. Solution? DON'T HAVE IT AROUND!

I think I'll break my "no food upstairs" rule and have the kids keep those

bags in their rooms.

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> Did anyone have trouble reading this the first time I sent

it

I didn't even *get* it the first time. Harumph.

I hope you have those Oreos and candy well hid from yourself, little

missy!

We can't have you sabotaging all the good work you've done the

past year. :)

Sue in NJ

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> hyuk! so does it help to wave cereal in front of the monitor?

Well, they *are* magically delicious, even though they're so sweet they

shouldn't be labeled a cereal product but candy. :)

Sue in NJ

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I am very wary of anything that claims to be " Magically " delicious.If

it needs magic to be delicious, don't eat it....and I agree with you

Sue, it is not a cereal. I don't know if it is even a real food, a

good test for if something is a real food, is can I make it in my

kitchen? The only people those things are lucky for is the cereal

company!

Eleanora

> > hyuk! so does it help to wave cereal in front of the monitor?

>

> Well, they *are* magically delicious, even though they're so sweet

they

> shouldn't be labeled a cereal product but candy. :)

>

>

>

> Sue in NJ

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Gretchen that is a GREAT Attitude to have. You ARE GOING TO DO THIS!!!!!!!!!!!! We all are. Because we are going to be here for each other all the way through!!!!!! This is a GREAT bunch of Women and I am so happy to be a part of you all!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Kim

-- today

Well after sleeping really, really late, absurdly late I have just enough time to read through all of days posts, exercise, shower, and get off to Logos(Our mid-week program at church). I felt really bad last night for what I had ate and what I have let my weight get to. This morning I feel my different. It might have been me talking it out to you or my husband just holding me letting me know that he loves me or the long prayers, but in any event this morning/afternoon I feel that I can take on the world and lose this fat body!!Have a great evening and I will check in late tonight!!Gretchenwho will have a blessed day!!

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Hi Jan

I'm back home again. Had a good time and some good food. I will be getting in the winter's wood and putting the garden to bed while this good weather lasts.

Dennis

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Hi Dennis nice to see you again..Hope everyone has a wondeful Thanksgiving today..Love to all.

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