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Too true ! I find myself eating MUCH more than I used to, before going on the

candida diet, and the weight is just melting away. It's like the real-life

version of those dumb info-mercials which promise your extra pounds will

vanish. I make sure I eat three times a day, each meal having protein (yup, I

slipped up with the carrot/apple thing when I crashed on Friday). In spite of

(or because of ?) eating more, but REAL food, my body is happily letting go of

the love handles...and I'm smiling from ear to ear.

Fiona

Re: weight loss

I have to chime in on this, but all metabolic studies here( in the

US) show that you don't necessarily eat less, you eat smaller

portions more often. The eating less is what threw the metabolism

into the " starvation mode " . Fat burns 2 calories, muscle burns

approx. 52 calories. Also, if you eat no more than 300 calories per

meal, every 21/2 hours, your body should be able to process this

without sending everything into fat storage via insulin. The same

types of studies show that 10 minutes of exercise, 3 times a day,

will provide approximately the same cardio benefit (not necessarily

fat burning benefits) at 30 minutes in one session, daily. This

works for any type of exercise. They will all provide oxygen to

your cells and weight lifting can be an extremely cardiovascular

workout, depending on the weight and timing of your session.

If you are increasing your calories but the calorie increase is in

the form of vegetables, especially negative calorie vegetables, your

metabolism is less likely to go into starvation mode and force

unneeded calories into fat storage for future use.

> Yes, but if someone is " stuck " now with a slow metabolism, they

need to

> eat fewer calories than what they were eating before. And,

building

> muscle is the way to increase metabolism so you are able to

increase the

> amt. that you eat.....

>

> Mic

>

>

> > The main thing is, so long as you're eating healthy (which, if

you're on

> >the candida diet, you definitely are!), and so long as you're not

going

> >hungry. Eat until you've had enough, but not until you've had too

much! :)

> >

> >The exercise will raise your metabolism, gradually burn fat, get

oxygen

> >into your tissues and therefore help to kill the candida too!

Every

> >second

> >day (ie, 3 - 4 times a week) is enough to get your fitness level

up and

> >burn fat, and allows you to have those important 'rest days' in

between -

> >otherwise, believe me, you'll get sick of having to drag yourself

to the

> >gym every day - having rest days then makes you look forward to

the next

> >time you go there!

> >

> >Good luck and enjoy getting fit! :D

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Hi ;

High-quality foods will do it; cold-processed whey isolate has no

lactose, fat, or casein in it. Eat eggs. Take cal/mag-D to keep from

getting acidic. Use coconut oil, at least for the calories. Eat meat.

Reduce starch; you didn't say starch-free and I thought " ah-hA!

Duncan Crow

> I'm on a strict dairy-free, yeast-free, sugar-free diet for the last two

> weeks, but was on the diet already at the beginning of the year. I'm not

> taking a homeopathic anti-fungal called Bio-82. I don't feel any better,

> and am worried about the weight loss.

>

> Can anyone help?

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Can you tell me what makes you suspect this? So far, I don't feel I have any of

the adrenal fatigue symptoms, but maybe I'm missing something.

Gracia <circe@...> wrote:

you need adrenal hormones, cortisol and DHEA. Find a smart doc.

Gracia

> I have been kicking around an idea and wondered if anyone else has had a

similar experience.

>

> I have been on one diet or another almost all of my life. My Hashimoto's

started when I was around 5 years old. What I've noticed is that whenever I

lose a significant amount of weight, between 10-20 pounds, I have some sort

of huge immune system attack.

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immune system problems are adrenal, all the symptoms you described are

adrenal. http://www.drlam.com and there are other sites too.

Gracia

> Can you tell me what makes you suspect this? So far, I don't feel I have

any of the adrenal fatigue symptoms, but maybe I'm missing something.

>

> Gracia <circe@...> wrote:

> you need adrenal hormones, cortisol and DHEA. Find a smart doc.

> Gracia

>

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I was in your shoes a couple of years ago. I was on a 1000-1200 calorie diet

and working out 7 days a week, not losing. I went on Atkins for 7 weeks and

lost nothing. You may have a long road ahead of you, so I hope you are willing

to stick with it and try many things to get your answer.

The first thing I did that was helpful was to go back to my doctor and get

copies of my lab results. Then, I went on http://thyroid.about.com and learned

how to read the tests. I read a whole lot more on that site, too. I learned

that the medication I was taking, Synthroid, may not be the best for people who

are hypothyroid. I learned that some hypothyroid people, especially ones with

weight problems, need the more metabolically active T3 hormone that is not in

Synthroid, which is only T4. I learned that the tests I had trusted my doctor

to tell me were " normal " actually indicated I was still hypothyroid, therefore

undermedicated, because the diagnostic guidelines had changed, and my test

scores were hypothyroid even under the older, stricter guidelines. My TSH was

5.7 back then when the guideline was 3.5 (lower is better for TSH).

I went to my HMO MD and convinced him to raise my dosage and give me Armour,

which is a natural thyroid medication containing all the T hormones. I started

losing weight on my Atkins plan, and lost 12 pounds before stalling out. I kept

the 12 pounds off, but did not lose anything else for a year.

I tried ordering extra medication from places on the Internet, but it still did

not help with weight loss. My temperature was back down to 97, which is also an

indication of hypothyroidism. I started looking around for more answers. I

made sure I had all the nutrients I needed, etc., because hypo people are low in

some nutrients. I kept working out and eating my Atkins program.

About this time, I had a huge immune flare and ended up being diagnosed with

Rheumatoid Arthritis, another autoimmune disorder (my thyroid problem is

Hashimoto's, an autoimmune thyroid disorder) and this set me back a bit getting

the RA under control.

Still no weight loss, though. I started seeing a Top Doc from the list on the

about.com thyroid site. He felt a big problem for me was inflammation, so I

started on a big anti-inflammation regimen. We changed my RA medication that

was causing intestinal inflammation, and I went on an " elimination " diet to

eliminate possible allergy food sources. I started drinking an

anti-inflammatory shake containing lots of turmeric and ginger. I lost about 6

pounds doing this, then stalled out again.

I had learned about adrenal fatigue sometimes accompanying thyroid problems, so

I asked my MD to check that. My adrenals were low, so I started on Isocort and

DHEA. It also turned out my estrogen count was way too high, so I started on

progesterone. I lost another pound or two, nothing spectacular, over the next

couple of months.

Most recently, I have started on testosterone gel and a controlled carbohydrate

diet, not as strict as Atkins. I lost another 3 pounds in about 6 weeks doing

that. I have also experimented with Lithium Orotate and Forskolin for cellular

resistance. These seem to be working and my metabolism is up...and I've lost

another couple of pounds. I'm still on my journey to try to keep losing. I

want to lose 40 in all.

I hope some of this information helps you! You may have to experiment and try

lots of things. My advice is to try only one thing at a time, wait a couple of

weeks to see if it gives you a result. If no result, quit and try something

else until you find out what is making YOU gain or not lose. It is different

for everyone and it is not always just a question of more thyroid, though if you

are on a low dose of T4 that is a good place to start.

I would go in this order:

Read everything you can about thyroid problems.

Get lab reports and analyze medication levels...are you still hypo even with

medicine?

Get medication corrected.

Make sure you are eating adequate calories and especially adequate protein.

Have a moderate exercise program.

Get inflammation under control.

Check your adrenals.

Check your other hormones besides thyroid.

If you are on a high dose of medicine and still have problems/symptoms, look at

cellular resistance to thyroid as a possibility.

dentalhyg1 <dentalhyg1@...> wrote:

Hi everybody! I am new to this group. I am 24 years old and was

daignosed about 3 years ago with hypothyroidism. Since then, I have

put on weight (even while on medication) and I can't seem to get it

off! In highschool, I NEVER had to worry about weight and now it

seems as though I am gaining like crazy! I joined a gym and try to

go at least 5 days a week. STILL....no weight loss! I am getting

so discouraged b/c I take my medicine and work out and nothing seems

to help! If anyone knows of a special diet or anything that will

help....please let me know! I'm really beginning to HATE my body!

Thanks!

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I am actually experiencing that same effect. I never had to worry

in hs either. I'm 25 and was diagnosed when I was 19. I have been

taking my meds religiously and within the last year I have put on so

much weight, I hate looking at myself. I swim 3 times a week and

have been put on a low fat diet because of my elevated cholesterol.

If there is anyone out there who knows of a special diet just for

Hypos that would be great. I am trying to stay away from all the

pills and hormone crap.-

-- In hypothyroidism , " dentalhyg1 " <dentalhyg1@y...>

wrote:

> Hi everybody! I am new to this group. I am 24 years old and was

> daignosed about 3 years ago with hypothyroidism. Since then, I

have

> put on weight (even while on medication) and I can't seem to get

it

> off! In highschool, I NEVER had to worry about weight and now it

> seems as though I am gaining like crazy! I joined a gym and try

to

> go at least 5 days a week. STILL....no weight loss! I am getting

> so discouraged b/c I take my medicine and work out and nothing

seems

> to help! If anyone knows of a special diet or anything that will

> help....please let me know! I'm really beginning to HATE my body!

>

> Thanks!

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I had the same prob. I gained so much I finally went to Weight Watchers and

was actually shocked by how many calories I ate. It is possible to not eat

enough calories as well and your body goes into starve mode holding onto

everything. Have you actually sat down and counted calories and looked at

the types of food you eat i.e. highly processed foods... eating out, junk

food even though health bars can be very high in calories and fat, carbs

etc.

kathy

-----Original Message-----

Hi everybody! I am new to this group. I am 24 years old and was

daignosed about 3 years ago with hypothyroidism. Since then, I have

put on weight (even while on medication) and I can't seem to get it

off! In highschool, I NEVER had to worry about weight and now it

seems as though I am gaining like crazy! I joined a gym and try to

go at least 5 days a week. STILL....no weight loss! I am getting

so discouraged b/c I take my medicine and work out and nothing seems

to help! If anyone knows of a special diet or anything that will

help....please let me know! I'm really beginning to HATE my body!

Thanks!

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Hi,

I'm new here too, but I've just been doing some digging around online for

info, and came across this article that you might be interested in -

http://www.coconutoil.com/ray_peat_coconutoil.htm

Hope that helps,

Hi everybody! I am new to this group. I am 24 years old and was

daignosed about 3 years ago with hypothyroidism. Since then, I have

put on weight (even while on medication) and I can't seem to get it

off! In highschool, I NEVER had to worry about weight and now it

seems as though I am gaining like crazy! I joined a gym and try to

go at least 5 days a week. STILL....no weight loss! I am getting

so discouraged b/c I take my medicine and work out and nothing seems

to help! If anyone knows of a special diet or anything that will

help....please let me know! I'm really beginning to HATE my body!

Thanks!

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Hi - I just want you to know you are not alone, I think we all have

to battle this... I too am 24 and have the same problem...I am so

glad I have you guys to understand. We can help eachother, this is a

great group:)

> Hi everybody! I am new to this group. I am 24 years old and was

> daignosed about 3 years ago with hypothyroidism. Since then, I

have

> put on weight (even while on medication) and I can't seem to get it

> off! In highschool, I NEVER had to worry about weight and now it

> seems as though I am gaining like crazy! I joined a gym and try to

> go at least 5 days a week. STILL....no weight loss! I am getting

> so discouraged b/c I take my medicine and work out and nothing

seems

> to help! If anyone knows of a special diet or anything that will

> help....please let me know! I'm really beginning to HATE my body!

>

> Thanks!

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" Special diets " won't work until you are properly treated for hypo.

Investigate meds like Armour----get enough of the right kind of med. Read

The Schwarzbein Principle which makes the case that low fat low cholesterol

diets cause high cholesterol.

Gracia

> I am actually experiencing that same effect. I never had to worry

> in hs either. I'm 25 and was diagnosed when I was 19. I have been

> taking my meds religiously and within the last year I have put on so

> much weight, I hate looking at myself. I swim 3 times a week and

> have been put on a low fat diet because of my elevated cholesterol.

> If there is anyone out there who knows of a special diet just for

> Hypos that would be great. I am trying to stay away from all the

> pills and hormone crap.-

>

> -- In hypothyroidism , " dentalhyg1 " <dentalhyg1@y...>

> wrote:

> > Hi everybody! I am new to this group. I am 24 years old and was

> > daignosed about 3 years ago with hypothyroidism. Since then, I

> have

> > put on weight (even while on medication) and I can't seem to get

> it

> > off! In highschool, I NEVER had to worry about weight and now it

> > seems as though I am gaining like crazy! I joined a gym and try

> to

> > go at least 5 days a week. STILL....no weight loss! I am getting

> > so discouraged b/c I take my medicine and work out and nothing

> seems

> > to help! If anyone knows of a special diet or anything that will

> > help....please let me know! I'm really beginning to HATE my body!

> >

> > Thanks!

>

>

>

>

>

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Hi Gracia,

I didn't agree with Schwarzbein recommendation NOT to take Armour.

What are your thoughts on her position?

Much love,

Pamela

Gracia <circe@...> wrote:

" Special diets " won't work until you are properly treated for hypo.

Investigate meds like Armour----get enough of the right kind of med. Read

The Schwarzbein Principle which makes the case that low fat low cholesterol

diets cause high cholesterol.

Gracia

> I am actually experiencing that same effect. I never had to worry

> in hs either. I'm 25 and was diagnosed when I was 19. I have been

> taking my meds religiously and within the last year I have put on so

> much weight, I hate looking at myself. I swim 3 times a week and

> have been put on a low fat diet because of my elevated cholesterol.

> If there is anyone out there who knows of a special diet just for

> Hypos that would be great. I am trying to stay away from all the

> pills and hormone crap.-

>

> -- In hypothyroidism , " dentalhyg1 "

> wrote:

> > Hi everybody! I am new to this group. I am 24 years old and was

> > daignosed about 3 years ago with hypothyroidism. Since then, I

> have

> > put on weight (even while on medication) and I can't seem to get

> it

> > off! In highschool, I NEVER had to worry about weight and now it

> > seems as though I am gaining like crazy! I joined a gym and try

> to

> > go at least 5 days a week. STILL....no weight loss! I am getting

> > so discouraged b/c I take my medicine and work out and nothing

> seems

> > to help! If anyone knows of a special diet or anything that will

> > help....please let me know! I'm really beginning to HATE my body!

> >

> > Thanks!

>

>

>

>

>

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Hi Pamela, I didn't agree either. She says Armour raises insulin levels and

doesn't have the right ratio of T4 to T3. It's the typical endo position.

Even among holistic docs treatments vary so much, it is difficult to get

good treatment. I go to an ND right now who is trying to get me off of

Armour, definately has no appreciation for cortef!!, wants me to do 's

protocol so I will be " cured " . He is patronizing and arrogant when he

speaks to me, used to be an airline pilot, new at naturopathy. I am about

to tell him " You're fired " ! I took my mother to a Schwarzbein doc---she

wouldn't give my mother hormones or treat adrenals, thought my mother's

illness was " acquired " through bad habits, my mother will die soon.

But I do think Schwarzbein is excellent for diet, healthy fats and

cholesterol. Maybe most Americans including children shouldn't be put on

cholesterol lowering medication?

Gracia

>

> Hi Gracia,

>

> I didn't agree with Schwarzbein recommendation NOT to take Armour.

>

> What are your thoughts on her position?

>

> Much love,

> Pamela

>

> Gracia <circe@...> wrote:

>

>

> " Special diets " won't work until you are properly treated for hypo.

> Investigate meds like Armour----get enough of the right kind of med. Read

> The Schwarzbein Principle which makes the case that low fat low

cholesterol

> diets cause high cholesterol.

> Gracia

>

> > I am actually experiencing that same effect. I never had to worry

> > in hs either. I'm 25 and was diagnosed when I was 19. I have been

> > taking my meds religiously and within the last year I have put on so

> > much weight, I hate looking at myself. I swim 3 times a week and

> > have been put on a low fat diet because of my elevated cholesterol.

> > If there is anyone out there who knows of a special diet just for

> > Hypos that would be great. I am trying to stay away from all the

> > pills and hormone crap.-

> >

> > -- In hypothyroidism , " dentalhyg1 "

> > wrote:

> > > Hi everybody! I am new to this group. I am 24 years old and was

> > > daignosed about 3 years ago with hypothyroidism. Since then, I

> > have

> > > put on weight (even while on medication) and I can't seem to get

> > it

> > > off! In highschool, I NEVER had to worry about weight and now it

> > > seems as though I am gaining like crazy! I joined a gym and try

> > to

> > > go at least 5 days a week. STILL....no weight loss! I am getting

> > > so discouraged b/c I take my medicine and work out and nothing

> > seems

> > > to help! If anyone knows of a special diet or anything that will

> > > help....please let me know! I'm really beginning to HATE my body!

> > >

> > > Thanks!

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

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Hi, sorry for answering late. How often do you get tested? Can you post

the results? Cause if you are not at the right dosage and/or medicine,

no diet or exercise is gonna help.

Jan

dentalhyg1 wrote:

>Hi everybody! I am new to this group. I am 24 years old and was

>daignosed about 3 years ago with hypothyroidism. Since then, I have

>put on weight (even while on medication) and I can't seem to get it

>off! In highschool, I NEVER had to worry about weight and now it

>seems as though I am gaining like crazy! I joined a gym and try to

>go at least 5 days a week. STILL....no weight loss! I am getting

>so discouraged b/c I take my medicine and work out and nothing seems

>to help! If anyone knows of a special diet or anything that will

>help....please let me know! I'm really beginning to HATE my body!

>

>Thanks!

>

>

>

>

>

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When you say " you are trying to stay away from all the pills and hormone

crap " , does that mean you are not getting treated for thyroid disease?

If that is the case, please reconsider!

Untreated hypo will have serious consequences, even after you do get

treatment. Osteoporosis, heart disease, just to name a few. Oh yeah, and

death, of course.

Jan

mayes42 wrote:

>I am actually experiencing that same effect. I never had to worry

>in hs either. I'm 25 and was diagnosed when I was 19. I have been

>taking my meds religiously and within the last year I have put on so

>much weight, I hate looking at myself. I swim 3 times a week and

>have been put on a low fat diet because of my elevated cholesterol.

>If there is anyone out there who knows of a special diet just for

>Hypos that would be great. I am trying to stay away from all the

>pills and hormone crap.-

>

>-- In hypothyroidism , " dentalhyg1 " <dentalhyg1@y...>

>wrote:

>

>

>>Hi everybody! I am new to this group. I am 24 years old and was

>>daignosed about 3 years ago with hypothyroidism. Since then, I

>>

>>

>have

>

>

>>put on weight (even while on medication) and I can't seem to get

>>

>>

>it

>

>

>>off! In highschool, I NEVER had to worry about weight and now it

>>seems as though I am gaining like crazy! I joined a gym and try

>>

>>

>to

>

>

>>go at least 5 days a week. STILL....no weight loss! I am getting

>>so discouraged b/c I take my medicine and work out and nothing

>>

>>

>seems

>

>

>>to help! If anyone knows of a special diet or anything that will

>>help....please let me know! I'm really beginning to HATE my body!

>>

>>Thanks!

>>

>>

>

>

>

>

>

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why would you think that one needs to get off using Arimidex this is one

of the best E2 blockers out there. The only thing bad about using it to keep

down ones E2 is going to low.

Indolplex/DIM is a wonder supplement and if one has a bad problem with high E2

taking both work dam good.

Phil

james186282 <pillow@...> wrote:

Great job on the weight loss Phil! Keep it up and try to get off that

Arimidex. (*Not sure about the DIM) Its an " ok " tool to help keep

your estrogens in check but I think for long term use I would be

fairly twitchy about it.

> In my short 9 months of TRT, I had to stop twice. My first round was

> in Dec. to March where I injected 100 mg Test Cyp. every 15 days. The

> first two months were fantastic. Libido was like that of a teenager.

> Muscle mass improved and some fat whittled away, But the good things

> waned on the third month as nasty sides took over: Depression, night

> sweats and nip swelling which got worse and had to stop the T-Cyp

> injections by end of the fourth month. I consulted with an andropause

> specialist and was advised to try HCG as a sole TRT and given a script

> of Profasi 2000 which I divided into 8 and injected 250 IU 3/week.

> The sides even got worse and red blotches in my arms started to

> appear. I discontinued the HCG after six injections.

>

> After a hiatus of 6 weeks, I resumed my T-Cyp injections in June.

> This time at 60 mg. weekly and ordered some Indolplex/Dim from

> RiteCare. Things run smoothly up to the 5th week when the first night

> sweat started to reappear. Blood tests at the time showed Total T =

> 700, up from baseline 357 and E2 = 29 up from <20. I started to take 1

> tab Indolplex/DIM which seem to take care of the night sweats. As I

> continued on with the weekly injections, the night sweats and hot

> flashes reappeared and got worse even with the increased dosage of

> Indolplex/DIM to 2 tabs. What's even worse is that the light

> headaches that usually comes in the second day after injections became

> worse and intolerable that even pain killers were hardly effective.

>

> So for the second time I had to stop my T-Cyp injections altogether.

> Any suggestions as to what I should do next? Should I ask my doctor

> for a prescription of SERM like Nolvadex or should I go for an AI like

> Arimidex? My other question is, notwithstanding a fixed and regular

> dosage, at some point in time TRT seem to reach a certain peak and

> point of diminishing return that necessitates cycling. Anyone out

> there with a similar experience?

>

> Taddeo

>

>

>

>

>

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I think Arimidex is a great tool for reduction of estrogen but I've

been reading more about it in anticipation that I will request a

script for it myself. Right now, mine seems to be ok which kind of

surprises me because I'm on the heavy side. Anyhow, long term use

seems (my opinion) to be possibly dangerous. Of course you can read

ANYTHING you want on the internet and find some that say one thing and

other say the opposite. I'm really pleased to hear about your massive

weight loss! You are really doing great man.

> > In my short 9 months of TRT, I had to stop twice. My first round was

> > in Dec. to March where I injected 100 mg Test Cyp. every 15 days. The

> > first two months were fantastic. Libido was like that of a teenager.

> > Muscle mass improved and some fat whittled away, But the good things

> > waned on the third month as nasty sides took over: Depression, night

> > sweats and nip swelling which got worse and had to stop the T-Cyp

> > injections by end of the fourth month. I consulted with an andropause

> > specialist and was advised to try HCG as a sole TRT and given a script

> > of Profasi 2000 which I divided into 8 and injected 250 IU 3/week.

> > The sides even got worse and red blotches in my arms started to

> > appear. I discontinued the HCG after six injections.

> >

> > After a hiatus of 6 weeks, I resumed my T-Cyp injections in June.

> > This time at 60 mg. weekly and ordered some Indolplex/Dim from

> > RiteCare. Things run smoothly up to the 5th week when the first night

> > sweat started to reappear. Blood tests at the time showed Total T =

> > 700, up from baseline 357 and E2 = 29 up from <20. I started to take 1

> > tab Indolplex/DIM which seem to take care of the night sweats. As I

> > continued on with the weekly injections, the night sweats and hot

> > flashes reappeared and got worse even with the increased dosage of

> > Indolplex/DIM to 2 tabs. What's even worse is that the light

> > headaches that usually comes in the second day after injections became

> > worse and intolerable that even pain killers were hardly effective.

> >

> > So for the second time I had to stop my T-Cyp injections altogether.

> > Any suggestions as to what I should do next? Should I ask my doctor

> > for a prescription of SERM like Nolvadex or should I go for an AI like

> > Arimidex? My other question is, notwithstanding a fixed and regular

> > dosage, at some point in time TRT seem to reach a certain peak and

> > point of diminishing return that necessitates cycling. Anyone out

> > there with a similar experience?

> >

> > Taddeo

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

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You can do too all you need to do it start feeling better with the right

Treatment not to say mine is the best because we are all not the same.

Phil

james186282 <pillow@...> wrote:

I think Arimidex is a great tool for reduction of estrogen but I've

been reading more about it in anticipation that I will request a

script for it myself. Right now, mine seems to be ok which kind of

surprises me because I'm on the heavy side. Anyhow, long term use

seems (my opinion) to be possibly dangerous. Of course you can read

ANYTHING you want on the internet and find some that say one thing and

other say the opposite. I'm really pleased to hear about your massive

weight loss! You are really doing great man.

> > In my short 9 months of TRT, I had to stop twice. My first round was

> > in Dec. to March where I injected 100 mg Test Cyp. every 15 days. The

> > first two months were fantastic. Libido was like that of a teenager.

> > Muscle mass improved and some fat whittled away, But the good things

> > waned on the third month as nasty sides took over: Depression, night

> > sweats and nip swelling which got worse and had to stop the T-Cyp

> > injections by end of the fourth month. I consulted with an andropause

> > specialist and was advised to try HCG as a sole TRT and given a script

> > of Profasi 2000 which I divided into 8 and injected 250 IU 3/week.

> > The sides even got worse and red blotches in my arms started to

> > appear. I discontinued the HCG after six injections.

> >

> > After a hiatus of 6 weeks, I resumed my T-Cyp injections in June.

> > This time at 60 mg. weekly and ordered some Indolplex/Dim from

> > RiteCare. Things run smoothly up to the 5th week when the first night

> > sweat started to reappear. Blood tests at the time showed Total T =

> > 700, up from baseline 357 and E2 = 29 up from <20. I started to take 1

> > tab Indolplex/DIM which seem to take care of the night sweats. As I

> > continued on with the weekly injections, the night sweats and hot

> > flashes reappeared and got worse even with the increased dosage of

> > Indolplex/DIM to 2 tabs. What's even worse is that the light

> > headaches that usually comes in the second day after injections became

> > worse and intolerable that even pain killers were hardly effective.

> >

> > So for the second time I had to stop my T-Cyp injections altogether.

> > Any suggestions as to what I should do next? Should I ask my doctor

> > for a prescription of SERM like Nolvadex or should I go for an AI like

> > Arimidex? My other question is, notwithstanding a fixed and regular

> > dosage, at some point in time TRT seem to reach a certain peak and

> > point of diminishing return that necessitates cycling. Anyone out

> > there with a similar experience?

> >

> > Taddeo

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

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Also, check out the Paleo Diet by Loren Cordain, and Dr Mercolas total health.

Both of which I found even more useful!

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What sort of nutritional guide are you currently following?

I find the best thing to remember, is if it isn't found in nature, it should

not be

found in your mouth...and instead of asking yourself, what you want to eat...

ask yourself what do I need? what have I not had today?

We also tend to eat entirely too much animal protein.

Remember that your body makes the protein it needs for specific combinations

from amino acids that are produced by the liver, and about 20% from dietary

sources.

It is said that you need animal sources in order to have a " complete " protein.

Well, it may be complete for the animal it came from, but once you have

ingested

it, your body must first break it down, and then reassemble it into the

proper

order of aminos to form a protein that is " complete " for you.

(It is entirely possible however, to manufacture protein without animal

products.)

This requires extra energy, and that is why high protein diets allow us to

lose a

bit more weight, but not without a price. The byproduct of all of that

protein metabolism

is ammonia, which must be converted into urea and filtered out via the

kidneys.

This is stressful for our bodies, and then of course there is the cooking

process...

which turns animal flesh into a carcinogen, and the hormones that survive the

cooking

process, that become active in our bodies once they enter the blood.

I have animal protein maybe twice a week, sometimes not all, and I stick to

chicken, turkey and very rarely fish. (fish is just yuk, no matter what you

do to it)

Its easy for us to forget that food is fuel,...and nothing more. We get

caught up in the

taste, and physiological responses to some foods...like sugar, and of course

the

social aspects of eating..and it just sets the stage for abuse and obesity.

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Hello,

I also gained about that much weight almost overnight it seemed - it is

frightening isn't it? I am not obese either just chubby and I have been

slim all my life till now - so welcome to the club!

I did not have a bad diet nor was I overeating but I had heaps of stress

- a divorce, moving house, small business to run etc. Of course it is

number one to make sure you are not overeating but then after that there

are a lot of other factors like stress which will not help.

I think what might have happened to me was that I suddenly became

insulin resistant and all the carbs I was used to eating just turned to

fat - I was vegetarian for most of my life so my diet included baked

potatoes, rice, wholegrain bread and oats, pasta etc

after several years I discovered that I just had to eat more animal

protein or I wasn't going to survive - I don't tolerate soy so that was

out (just as well too with being hypothyroid)

Now my diet is a good balance of natural carbs - brown rice, some

basmati rice, vegies, sometimes spelt bread with protein foods - fish

(not much) chicken and a little red meat as well as nuts and seeds and

organic and raw dairy products. Hardly any sugar - its bad news and not

much fruit for the same reason. Lots of fresh salads and a carrot juice

every day (if possible) with 2 drops of Lugol's iodine in it. I also

make a whey shake with all sorts of vitamins and supplements and I can

have a banana in this without any reaction.

I am not losing weight but I am not gaining either - I'm sorry to tell

you that you may be stuck with the weight until your metabolism gets

better - that is what I am assuming will happen. My three sisters are

slim - no-one in my family is overweight so I have no reason to assume

that my weight is anything more than my body being severely out of

balance.

My naturopath has suggested to me and I agree that I put on the weight

as a form of self protection from all the trauma I suffered when I first

became ill. So its worth noting the emotional aspects of our weight as

well.

hope this is useful,

Kerry

weight loss

Hi, I am new to the group, and fairly new to being hypothyroid, I want

to lose weight, but the old ways don't seem to apply anymore,I gained

20 lbs. in one month, can anyone give me some advice, I really don't

know much about this disease, and from what I've read here neither do

my drs.

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Hi, I was just reviewing the boards. I put on a lot of weight also in a short

amount of time. Since I've been on my meds I haven't lost any weight but I

haven't gained any either. I started taking T3 about one month ago so I am

hoping it helps. I had a question about the Candida Overgrowth Syndrome. I was

reading a few websites. Before I was diagnosed with hypothroidism, I had

terrible stomach pains for about 3 years and could not tolerate eating any fresh

vegetables or fruits, everything had to be cooked. I was diagnosed with

irritable bowel syndrome, which my dr. told me just meant he didn't know what

was causing it. About 4 months after taking my meds I was able to start eating

fresh vegetables and fruits again. I read Candida Overgrowth can cause food

intolerances to develop. Does anyone know the link it has to hypothroidism and

maybe weight issues? I was thinking about getting some supplements to see if

they worked? Anyone have similar issues?

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Yeast overgrowth can lead to liver dysfunction...and conversion of thyroid

hormone

T4 into T3 takes place in the liver. (because digestion will be incomplete)

The liver is responsible for more than 500 different biochemical functions,

so keeping

it healthy is key!

A strained digestive system in general will also lead to liver dysfunction.

Things that strain digestion include...constipation, overeating, eating too

much meat,

eating too many mucus forming foods, like dairy and wheat, sugar and processed

foods.

Yeast overgrowth leads to excess mucus in the digestive tract, which in turn

leads

to " leaky gut " , in which whole undigested proteins are allowed into the blood

stream,

causing us to have an immune response to them, or " allergic " reaction.

The best way to control yeast, is to avoid feeding it...like hungry pirahna,

they attack

the food you send down your digestive tract, setting up cravings when you

don't feed it

what it prefers. We tend to give into these cravings, because we know that

we will

feel better for short time, unfortuately that is exactly what the yeast wants

us to do.

A good colon cleansing might be a place to start, when attempting to rid

yourself

of an infestation.

Also avoid things that will ferment or that may contain mold, like peanuts

and

some herbal teas.

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Thanks for the info. You helped me to understand this issue better!

Aprilcupcake@... wrote:Yeast overgrowth can lead to liver dysfunction...and

conversion of thyroid

hormone

T4 into T3 takes place in the liver. (because digestion will be incomplete)

The liver is responsible for more than 500 different biochemical functions,

so keeping

it healthy is key!

A strained digestive system in general will also lead to liver dysfunction.

Things that strain digestion include...constipation, overeating, eating too

much meat,

eating too many mucus forming foods, like dairy and wheat, sugar and processed

foods.

Yeast overgrowth leads to excess mucus in the digestive tract, which in turn

leads

to " leaky gut " , in which whole undigested proteins are allowed into the blood

stream,

causing us to have an immune response to them, or " allergic " reaction.

The best way to control yeast, is to avoid feeding it...like hungry pirahna,

they attack

the food you send down your digestive tract, setting up cravings when you

don't feed it

what it prefers. We tend to give into these cravings, because we know that

we will

feel better for short time, unfortuately that is exactly what the yeast wants

us to do.

A good colon cleansing might be a place to start, when attempting to rid

yourself

of an infestation.

Also avoid things that will ferment or that may contain mold, like peanuts

and

some herbal teas.

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