Guest guest Posted April 14, 2003 Report Share Posted April 14, 2003 Re: Dillon > I thought you had said that the other syndrome PDAS didn't > really sound like him after all? No. I've always said this sounded EXACTLY like him. It's on the ASD spectrum but is quite a bit different. In fact, Shattock on the SJU list said PDAS would fit Dillon -- but it's a UK diagnosis and not used in the US. Ped said schizoid personality disorder -- that doesn't sound like Dillon at all. Here's what Shattock said about Dillon and PDAS: " The diagnosis is used in the UK but not that extensively. It is applicable to a subgroup of people within the PDD spectrum but it is not autism. I was heavily involved (in a voluntary way) in running a school a few years back. There was one particular girl who was " Autistic " but just did not fit the mould. She was very bright and very funny but gave us more problems than all the others put together. She could tell lies as easily as blink. It was not until I attended a lecture on PDA that I realised that she was virtually describing Miss X. Of course, it is impossible to diagnose over the internet and I am not competent to diagnose in any case but, well, it could fit. " > Do the problems he's having on the bus and in the lunchroom sound like > things that could have been misinterpretations of the sort a spectrum person > might make? I don't know. Hell, I don't even know if he's telling the truth most of the time. Thanks, Sue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 14, 2003 Report Share Posted April 14, 2003 > I think I just tended to take whatever anyone was talking about one step > further. does that, now, too. Like if some kid (Ben) went to Disney > world, will say he'd been there too, AND met Walt Disney and had free > whatever the whole time. And I think that at that moment he truly believes > it's true, simply because he's thought of it. Hmmmmmmmm... That's a lot to think about. Sissi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 14, 2003 Report Share Posted April 14, 2003 > I think I just tended to take whatever anyone was talking about one step > further. does that, now, too. Like if some kid (Ben) went to Disney > world, will say he'd been there too, AND met Walt Disney and had free > whatever the whole time. And I think that at that moment he truly believes > it's true, simply because he's thought of it. Hmmmmmmmm... That's a lot to think about. Sissi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 14, 2003 Report Share Posted April 14, 2003 > I think I just tended to take whatever anyone was talking about one step > further. does that, now, too. Like if some kid (Ben) went to Disney > world, will say he'd been there too, AND met Walt Disney and had free > whatever the whole time. And I think that at that moment he truly believes > it's true, simply because he's thought of it. Hmmmmmmmm... That's a lot to think about. Sissi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 14, 2003 Report Share Posted April 14, 2003 > and they seem to believe it--mainly because they > can't separate reality from fantasy? Classic symptom of PDAS. Also -- Boone can't distinguish reality from fiction -- violent cartoons, for instance. Sissi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 14, 2003 Report Share Posted April 14, 2003 > and they seem to believe it--mainly because they > can't separate reality from fantasy? Classic symptom of PDAS. Also -- Boone can't distinguish reality from fiction -- violent cartoons, for instance. Sissi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 14, 2003 Report Share Posted April 14, 2003 Sissi, I read some of Dillion's site about his illness. What an amazing and scary story! You must be one strong lady!! Warm Regards & ASD 11/25/00 in Maine Dillon I finally talked to the psychologist Dillon has been seeing. This is the one our ped referred us to originally, then said he probably wouldn't be much help with Dillon since he usually deals with conduct problems. He said Dillon's intelligence level is high, but he didn't give me an IQ or anything like that. Dillon is suffering from moderate depression. Partly from his illness, partly from the adjustments he's had to make because of the illness and problems with the other kids in the family. He said depression affects kids differently. They don't usually hole up in their rooms like adults. It's usually manifested in conduct, agitation and apathy. Dillon directs a lot of self-derogatory statements towards himself, which he said is from depression. The mood fluctuations are also caused by depression. He recommends Zoloft, which can be prescribed by his ped, but that he should be monitored very closely because of hypersensitivity to medications (vasculitis). He has recommended a referral to neuropsychologist (Dr. , actually -- we already have an appointment with him on Wednesday). He said their were some " mild neurological signs " and asked if I had ever heard of Asperger's Syndrome. Dillon is currently suspended from riding the school bus for three days (starting today). This is his second bus suspension. This morning I got a call from the vice principal informing me that he begins in school suspension starting tomorrow for yet another minor infraction in the lunch room. This was the third call from this guy within a period of seven days. I thought Aspies were notoriously honest? Which brings me back to a question I had some time ago -- Pathological Demand Avoidance Syndrome. Or could it be that Dillon just has plain old gifted child syndrome? Just so you'll know that the news about Dillon isn't all bad -- On Friday night, Dillon and a played for 300 boy scouts and their parents at a huge boy scout meet: http://www.geocities.com/flaremusic/camposborne.htm Also, his renal labs have remained normal for a full year (normal for Dillon anyway +1 proteinuria/+3 hematuria). NS (nephrotic syndrome) is officially in remission. Sissi " my kids are killing me " Garvey Kids' Page http://www.isoa.net/~nitetrax/original.htm Boone's Art Page http://www.isoa.net/~nitetrax/bart.htm Dillon's Music Page http://www.geocities.com/flaremusic " If it doesn't spin, it's broke. " Boone Garvey (not a direct quote -- more like an attitude) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 14, 2003 Report Share Posted April 14, 2003 Sissi, I read some of Dillion's site about his illness. What an amazing and scary story! You must be one strong lady!! Warm Regards & ASD 11/25/00 in Maine Dillon I finally talked to the psychologist Dillon has been seeing. This is the one our ped referred us to originally, then said he probably wouldn't be much help with Dillon since he usually deals with conduct problems. He said Dillon's intelligence level is high, but he didn't give me an IQ or anything like that. Dillon is suffering from moderate depression. Partly from his illness, partly from the adjustments he's had to make because of the illness and problems with the other kids in the family. He said depression affects kids differently. They don't usually hole up in their rooms like adults. It's usually manifested in conduct, agitation and apathy. Dillon directs a lot of self-derogatory statements towards himself, which he said is from depression. The mood fluctuations are also caused by depression. He recommends Zoloft, which can be prescribed by his ped, but that he should be monitored very closely because of hypersensitivity to medications (vasculitis). He has recommended a referral to neuropsychologist (Dr. , actually -- we already have an appointment with him on Wednesday). He said their were some " mild neurological signs " and asked if I had ever heard of Asperger's Syndrome. Dillon is currently suspended from riding the school bus for three days (starting today). This is his second bus suspension. This morning I got a call from the vice principal informing me that he begins in school suspension starting tomorrow for yet another minor infraction in the lunch room. This was the third call from this guy within a period of seven days. I thought Aspies were notoriously honest? Which brings me back to a question I had some time ago -- Pathological Demand Avoidance Syndrome. Or could it be that Dillon just has plain old gifted child syndrome? Just so you'll know that the news about Dillon isn't all bad -- On Friday night, Dillon and a played for 300 boy scouts and their parents at a huge boy scout meet: http://www.geocities.com/flaremusic/camposborne.htm Also, his renal labs have remained normal for a full year (normal for Dillon anyway +1 proteinuria/+3 hematuria). NS (nephrotic syndrome) is officially in remission. Sissi " my kids are killing me " Garvey Kids' Page http://www.isoa.net/~nitetrax/original.htm Boone's Art Page http://www.isoa.net/~nitetrax/bart.htm Dillon's Music Page http://www.geocities.com/flaremusic " If it doesn't spin, it's broke. " Boone Garvey (not a direct quote -- more like an attitude) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 14, 2003 Report Share Posted April 14, 2003 > > and they seem to believe it--mainly because they > > can't separate reality from fantasy? > > > Classic symptom of PDAS. Also -- Boone can't distinguish reality from > fiction -- violent cartoons, for instance. > Just to muddy the waters even more, Putter's psychologist says that this is pretty typical of Asperger's also. That is why Enrique can completely immobilize himself with some weird rule or idea; he cannot figure out what is real. Hard to tell the truth when you do not know the reality. Salli Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 14, 2003 Report Share Posted April 14, 2003 > > and they seem to believe it--mainly because they > > can't separate reality from fantasy? > > > Classic symptom of PDAS. Also -- Boone can't distinguish reality from > fiction -- violent cartoons, for instance. > Just to muddy the waters even more, Putter's psychologist says that this is pretty typical of Asperger's also. That is why Enrique can completely immobilize himself with some weird rule or idea; he cannot figure out what is real. Hard to tell the truth when you do not know the reality. Salli Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 14, 2003 Report Share Posted April 14, 2003 Hey Sissi, I finally checked out Dillon's music. That stuff rocks! Is he actually playing that guitar?!?! Good lord you have some talent going on in your family! (SAHM in GA) MSN elizabethloht@... n 33, mo, no formal dx Phoebe, 9 wks Dillon > I finally talked to the psychologist Dillon has been seeing. This is the one our ped referred us to originally, then said he probably wouldn't be much help with Dillon since he usually deals with conduct problems. > > He said Dillon's intelligence level is high, but he didn't give me an IQ or anything like that. > > Dillon is suffering from moderate depression. Partly from his illness, partly from the adjustments he's had to make because of the illness and problems with the other kids in the family. > > He said depression affects kids differently. They don't usually hole up in their rooms like adults. It's usually manifested in conduct, agitation and apathy. > > Dillon directs a lot of self-derogatory statements towards himself, which he said is from depression. The mood fluctuations are also caused by depression. > > He recommends Zoloft, which can be prescribed by his ped, but that he should be monitored very closely because of hypersensitivity to medications (vasculitis). > > He has recommended a referral to neuropsychologist (Dr. , actually -- we already have an appointment with him on Wednesday). He said their were some " mild neurological signs " and asked if I had ever heard of Asperger's Syndrome. > > Dillon is currently suspended from riding the school bus for three days (starting today). This is his second bus suspension. > > This morning I got a call from the vice principal informing me that he begins in school suspension starting tomorrow for yet another minor infraction in the lunch room. > > This was the third call from this guy within a period of seven days. > > I thought Aspies were notoriously honest? Which brings me back to a question I had some time ago -- Pathological Demand Avoidance Syndrome. Or could it be that Dillon just has plain old gifted child syndrome? > > Just so you'll know that the news about Dillon isn't all bad -- On Friday night, Dillon and a played for 300 boy scouts and their parents at a huge boy scout meet: > http://www.geocities.com/flaremusic/camposborne.htm > > Also, his renal labs have remained normal for a full year (normal for Dillon anyway +1 proteinuria/+3 hematuria). NS (nephrotic syndrome) is officially in remission. > > Sissi " my kids are killing me " Garvey > > Kids' Page > http://www.isoa.net/~nitetrax/original.htm > Boone's Art Page > http://www.isoa.net/~nitetrax/bart.htm > Dillon's Music Page > http://www.geocities.com/flaremusic > > " If it doesn't spin, it's broke. " > Boone Garvey (not a direct quote -- more like an attitude) > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 14, 2003 Report Share Posted April 14, 2003 Hey Sissi, I finally checked out Dillon's music. That stuff rocks! Is he actually playing that guitar?!?! Good lord you have some talent going on in your family! (SAHM in GA) MSN elizabethloht@... n 33, mo, no formal dx Phoebe, 9 wks Dillon > I finally talked to the psychologist Dillon has been seeing. This is the one our ped referred us to originally, then said he probably wouldn't be much help with Dillon since he usually deals with conduct problems. > > He said Dillon's intelligence level is high, but he didn't give me an IQ or anything like that. > > Dillon is suffering from moderate depression. Partly from his illness, partly from the adjustments he's had to make because of the illness and problems with the other kids in the family. > > He said depression affects kids differently. They don't usually hole up in their rooms like adults. It's usually manifested in conduct, agitation and apathy. > > Dillon directs a lot of self-derogatory statements towards himself, which he said is from depression. The mood fluctuations are also caused by depression. > > He recommends Zoloft, which can be prescribed by his ped, but that he should be monitored very closely because of hypersensitivity to medications (vasculitis). > > He has recommended a referral to neuropsychologist (Dr. , actually -- we already have an appointment with him on Wednesday). He said their were some " mild neurological signs " and asked if I had ever heard of Asperger's Syndrome. > > Dillon is currently suspended from riding the school bus for three days (starting today). This is his second bus suspension. > > This morning I got a call from the vice principal informing me that he begins in school suspension starting tomorrow for yet another minor infraction in the lunch room. > > This was the third call from this guy within a period of seven days. > > I thought Aspies were notoriously honest? Which brings me back to a question I had some time ago -- Pathological Demand Avoidance Syndrome. Or could it be that Dillon just has plain old gifted child syndrome? > > Just so you'll know that the news about Dillon isn't all bad -- On Friday night, Dillon and a played for 300 boy scouts and their parents at a huge boy scout meet: > http://www.geocities.com/flaremusic/camposborne.htm > > Also, his renal labs have remained normal for a full year (normal for Dillon anyway +1 proteinuria/+3 hematuria). NS (nephrotic syndrome) is officially in remission. > > Sissi " my kids are killing me " Garvey > > Kids' Page > http://www.isoa.net/~nitetrax/original.htm > Boone's Art Page > http://www.isoa.net/~nitetrax/bart.htm > Dillon's Music Page > http://www.geocities.com/flaremusic > > " If it doesn't spin, it's broke. " > Boone Garvey (not a direct quote -- more like an attitude) > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 14, 2003 Report Share Posted April 14, 2003 > Hey Sissi, I finally checked out Dillon's music. That stuff rocks! Is he > actually playing that guitar?!?! Yes, that's him. Pretty amazing, isn't it? Good lord you have some talent going on in > your family! Strange kids with strange talents. I guess it's kind of a trade-off. Sissi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 14, 2003 Report Share Posted April 14, 2003 You know one thing that I have discovered about Savannah? When she does lie it is so obvious it isn't funny. It is like she can't come up with anything convincing and is practicing to see if she can do it. It is like she is trying to do something other kids do and can't quite get it. Georga Re: Dillon > > If he just comes home and does not TELL you what the problem is, that's > > pretty different than actually telling a different story all together. > > Which one does he do? > > He tells WHOPPERS! Remember the bus story? > > Turns in old homework with the date changed. > > Sometimes he just makes up crazy stories for no apparent reason. > > And of course, NOTHING is ever HIS fault. > > Sissi > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 14, 2003 Report Share Posted April 14, 2003 > He has recommended a referral to neuropsychologist (Dr. , actually -- we already have an appointment with him on Wednesday). He said their were some " mild neurological signs " and asked if I had ever heard of Asperger's Syndrome. > WOW! > I thought Aspies were notoriously honest? Which brings me back to a question I had some time ago -- Pathological Demand Avoidance Syndrome. > I think aspies are bluntly honest; I don't think that means they don't practice convenient omission of details or facts. If he just comes home and does not TELL you what the problem is, that's pretty different than actually telling a different story all together. Which one does he do? > Also, his renal labs have remained normal for a full year (normal for Dillon anyway +1 proteinuria/+3 hematuria). NS (nephrotic syndrome) is officially in remission. > That's FANTASTIC!!!!! Jacquie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 14, 2003 Report Share Posted April 14, 2003 > He has recommended a referral to neuropsychologist (Dr. , actually -- we already have an appointment with him on Wednesday). He said their were some " mild neurological signs " and asked if I had ever heard of Asperger's Syndrome. > WOW! > I thought Aspies were notoriously honest? Which brings me back to a question I had some time ago -- Pathological Demand Avoidance Syndrome. > I think aspies are bluntly honest; I don't think that means they don't practice convenient omission of details or facts. If he just comes home and does not TELL you what the problem is, that's pretty different than actually telling a different story all together. Which one does he do? > Also, his renal labs have remained normal for a full year (normal for Dillon anyway +1 proteinuria/+3 hematuria). NS (nephrotic syndrome) is officially in remission. > That's FANTASTIC!!!!! Jacquie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 14, 2003 Report Share Posted April 14, 2003 > He has recommended a referral to neuropsychologist (Dr. , actually -- we already have an appointment with him on Wednesday). He said their were some " mild neurological signs " and asked if I had ever heard of Asperger's Syndrome. > WOW! > I thought Aspies were notoriously honest? Which brings me back to a question I had some time ago -- Pathological Demand Avoidance Syndrome. > I think aspies are bluntly honest; I don't think that means they don't practice convenient omission of details or facts. If he just comes home and does not TELL you what the problem is, that's pretty different than actually telling a different story all together. Which one does he do? > Also, his renal labs have remained normal for a full year (normal for Dillon anyway +1 proteinuria/+3 hematuria). NS (nephrotic syndrome) is officially in remission. > That's FANTASTIC!!!!! Jacquie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 14, 2003 Report Share Posted April 14, 2003 > Most of us would have known the rules without being told. But he didn't. > Yup, I can understand that. I think aspies don't have an innate understanding of rules that fall under the heading of " unspoken moral/ethical code " . Perfectly happy to abide by them, IF we know what they are...but since it all changes so much from situation to situation, we are pretty much incapable of generalizing those rules out to everything else. This doesn't exactly fit the discussion, but it just popped into mind as something similar...or maybe it DOES... when I had my first job at 15, I asked my boss for new year's day off to go skiing. He said no, EVERYONE had to work that day. So then later I found out that he'd given the day off to another part timer. So if he gave it to HER, then he DIDN'T need everyone to work. So I knew he wouldn't give the day off to me; he'd already said no. So I got my friend's mother to call me in sick, and I went skiing. Due to a truly labrythine chain of events, my deception was discovered. I was fired. I was surprised. Still am, actually, since he said he needed everyone and then turned around and gave the day off to someone, showing he DIDN'T need everyone... ANYWAY, my point I'm not getting to is that at subsequent jobs I didn't do THAT again, but I did call in sick for OTHER REASONS, and did some other stupid stuff -- just not that stupid thing again. Lou won't embezzle again. But he will STILL not have any idea what the rules are! Jacquie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 14, 2003 Report Share Posted April 14, 2003 > He tells WHOPPERS! Remember the bus story? > > Turns in old homework with the date changed. > > Sometimes he just makes up crazy stories for no apparent reason. Those ARE devious. I used to make up stories for no apparent reason, too. Reduced several neighborhood kids to tears with them. My mom took me to the doctor, who pronounced me 'imaginative'. But I don't remember ever having fun making them up; I remember delivering them as if they were fact and then watching dispassionately as kids lost their minds. (the stories usually revolved around something these kids coveted) Several moms called mine to pronounce I was never to play with their kids again. I don't remember caring about that much. (my mom remembers it as me utterly " not giving a shit " .) I think I just tended to take whatever anyone was talking about one step further. does that, now, too. Like if some kid (Ben) went to Disney world, will say he'd been there too, AND met Walt Disney and had free whatever the whole time. And I think that at that moment he truly believes it's true, simply because he's thought of it. Jacquie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 14, 2003 Report Share Posted April 14, 2003 > > Dillon is suffering from moderate depression. Partly from his illness, partly from the adjustments he's had to make because of the illness and problems with the other kids in the family. > > He said depression affects kids differently. They don't usually hole up in their rooms like adults. It's usually manifested in conduct, agitation and apathy. > > Dillon directs a lot of self-derogatory statements towards himself, which he said is from depression. The mood fluctuations are also caused by depression. > He has recommended a referral to neuropsychologist (Dr. , actually -- we already have an appointment with him on Wednesday). He said their were some " mild neurological signs " and asked if I had ever heard of Asperger's Syndrome. > Sissi, This sort of confirms some of the thoughts you have been having doesn't it? > > I thought Aspies were notoriously honest? Which brings me back to a question I had some time ago -- Pathological Demand Avoidance Syndrome. Or could it be that Dillon just has plain old gifted child syndrome? I just read a book about an Asperger boy who lied all of the time, but mostly to make himself appear more " normal. " He claims to be the Biology teacher's asst. when he is actually flunking the class. He claims to have a paid internship, when he is actually a free intern in a video production company and only makes it there a few weeks before being asked to leave. I think AS kids are particularly vulnerable to this once they reach an age where they realize that they are different. This could account for some of the depression, too. AS kids sometimes have a large gap between verbal and non- verbal IQ's that makes the intermediate grades become tougher and tougher. They seem to do okay in primary grades, but become overwhelmed in intermediate grades. Could that be why he is depressed, too? I loved this book I read: Finding Ben by Barbara La Salle. It was gut-wrenchingly sad, but also very uplifting when they finally realize what is up with Ben in adulthood. Prior to that, he and his parents went thru absolute hell tryng to determine what was wrong. Mom wrote the book and it is very well-written. I cried buckets, but I loved it just the same. It gave picture of the absolute worst it could get, and then helped you see how he and his mother had to stop trying to fix him and love him for himself. Maybe a message we all need to read. I, for one, spend way too much time bitching about what drives me crazy about Brandt instead of being grateful for all of the wonderful qualities he does have. It was a good book to read. Leggs > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 14, 2003 Report Share Posted April 14, 2003 > > Dillon is suffering from moderate depression. Partly from his illness, partly from the adjustments he's had to make because of the illness and problems with the other kids in the family. > > He said depression affects kids differently. They don't usually hole up in their rooms like adults. It's usually manifested in conduct, agitation and apathy. > > Dillon directs a lot of self-derogatory statements towards himself, which he said is from depression. The mood fluctuations are also caused by depression. > He has recommended a referral to neuropsychologist (Dr. , actually -- we already have an appointment with him on Wednesday). He said their were some " mild neurological signs " and asked if I had ever heard of Asperger's Syndrome. > Sissi, This sort of confirms some of the thoughts you have been having doesn't it? > > I thought Aspies were notoriously honest? Which brings me back to a question I had some time ago -- Pathological Demand Avoidance Syndrome. Or could it be that Dillon just has plain old gifted child syndrome? I just read a book about an Asperger boy who lied all of the time, but mostly to make himself appear more " normal. " He claims to be the Biology teacher's asst. when he is actually flunking the class. He claims to have a paid internship, when he is actually a free intern in a video production company and only makes it there a few weeks before being asked to leave. I think AS kids are particularly vulnerable to this once they reach an age where they realize that they are different. This could account for some of the depression, too. AS kids sometimes have a large gap between verbal and non- verbal IQ's that makes the intermediate grades become tougher and tougher. They seem to do okay in primary grades, but become overwhelmed in intermediate grades. Could that be why he is depressed, too? I loved this book I read: Finding Ben by Barbara La Salle. It was gut-wrenchingly sad, but also very uplifting when they finally realize what is up with Ben in adulthood. Prior to that, he and his parents went thru absolute hell tryng to determine what was wrong. Mom wrote the book and it is very well-written. I cried buckets, but I loved it just the same. It gave picture of the absolute worst it could get, and then helped you see how he and his mother had to stop trying to fix him and love him for himself. Maybe a message we all need to read. I, for one, spend way too much time bitching about what drives me crazy about Brandt instead of being grateful for all of the wonderful qualities he does have. It was a good book to read. Leggs > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 14, 2003 Report Share Posted April 14, 2003 > > Dillon is suffering from moderate depression. Partly from his illness, partly from the adjustments he's had to make because of the illness and problems with the other kids in the family. > > He said depression affects kids differently. They don't usually hole up in their rooms like adults. It's usually manifested in conduct, agitation and apathy. > > Dillon directs a lot of self-derogatory statements towards himself, which he said is from depression. The mood fluctuations are also caused by depression. > He has recommended a referral to neuropsychologist (Dr. , actually -- we already have an appointment with him on Wednesday). He said their were some " mild neurological signs " and asked if I had ever heard of Asperger's Syndrome. > Sissi, This sort of confirms some of the thoughts you have been having doesn't it? > > I thought Aspies were notoriously honest? Which brings me back to a question I had some time ago -- Pathological Demand Avoidance Syndrome. Or could it be that Dillon just has plain old gifted child syndrome? I just read a book about an Asperger boy who lied all of the time, but mostly to make himself appear more " normal. " He claims to be the Biology teacher's asst. when he is actually flunking the class. He claims to have a paid internship, when he is actually a free intern in a video production company and only makes it there a few weeks before being asked to leave. I think AS kids are particularly vulnerable to this once they reach an age where they realize that they are different. This could account for some of the depression, too. AS kids sometimes have a large gap between verbal and non- verbal IQ's that makes the intermediate grades become tougher and tougher. They seem to do okay in primary grades, but become overwhelmed in intermediate grades. Could that be why he is depressed, too? I loved this book I read: Finding Ben by Barbara La Salle. It was gut-wrenchingly sad, but also very uplifting when they finally realize what is up with Ben in adulthood. Prior to that, he and his parents went thru absolute hell tryng to determine what was wrong. Mom wrote the book and it is very well-written. I cried buckets, but I loved it just the same. It gave picture of the absolute worst it could get, and then helped you see how he and his mother had to stop trying to fix him and love him for himself. Maybe a message we all need to read. I, for one, spend way too much time bitching about what drives me crazy about Brandt instead of being grateful for all of the wonderful qualities he does have. It was a good book to read. Leggs > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 14, 2003 Report Share Posted April 14, 2003 Sissi, can tell you he's a certain character and just because he says so, he thinks you believe that's who he is. We are constantly quizzing the kids on what is real and what is make believe or acting, etc. Sue Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 14, 2003 Report Share Posted April 14, 2003 > > I don't know. Hell, I don't even know if he's telling the truth most of the > time. I hate to say this, but whenever relays information to me, I'm not really sure either :-( He is so very different than . lies poorly. It's more of a spontaneous response when it happens and it's easy to get caught on and usually very minor. With , it's usually quite elaborate and very believeable. I think with him, it's more like Jacquie's description of . Anyway, you're very welcome, I just wish I could be more helpful. I know how much it sucks to be in limbo on a diagnosis. At least having a name for it gives you something to learn about and a direction to go in..not to mention something to shove at the school so they have to start being more helpful! Hang in there Sissi, there will be an end to all this uncertainty and hopefully it will be soon! Sue Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 14, 2003 Report Share Posted April 14, 2003 > > I don't know. Hell, I don't even know if he's telling the truth most of the > time. I hate to say this, but whenever relays information to me, I'm not really sure either :-( He is so very different than . lies poorly. It's more of a spontaneous response when it happens and it's easy to get caught on and usually very minor. With , it's usually quite elaborate and very believeable. I think with him, it's more like Jacquie's description of . Anyway, you're very welcome, I just wish I could be more helpful. I know how much it sucks to be in limbo on a diagnosis. At least having a name for it gives you something to learn about and a direction to go in..not to mention something to shove at the school so they have to start being more helpful! Hang in there Sissi, there will be an end to all this uncertainty and hopefully it will be soon! Sue Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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