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Who pays for your health insurance and what does it cost?

Ron

8 ways

> >

> > 8 ways reform provides security and stability to those with or without

> > coverage

> >

> > 1.. Ends Discrimination for Pre-Existing Conditions: Insurance

> > companies

> > will be prohibited from refusing you coverage because of your medical

> > history.

> > 2.. Ends Exorbitant Out-of-Pocket Expenses, Deductibles or Co-Pays:

> > Insurance companies will have to abide by yearly caps on how much

> > they can charge

> > for out-of-pocket expenses.

> > 3.. Ends Cost-Sharing for Preventive Care: Insurance companies must

> > fully

> > cover, without charge, regular checkups and tests that help you

> > prevent

> > illness, such as mammograms or eye and foot exams for diabetics.

> > 4.. Ends Dropping of Coverage for Seriously Ill: Insurance companies

> > will

> > be prohibited from dropping or watering down insurance coverage for

> > those

> > who become seriously ill.

> > 5.. Ends Gender Discrimination: Insurance companies will be prohibited

> > from charging you more because of your gender.

> > 6.. Ends Annual or Lifetime Caps on Coverage: Insurance companies

> > will be

> > prevented from placing annual or lifetime caps on the coverage you

> > receive.

> > 7.. Extends Coverage for Young Adults: Children would continue to be

> > eligible for family coverage through the age of 26.

> > 8.. Guarantees Insurance Renewal: Insurance companies will be

> > required to

> > renew any policy as long as the policyholder pays their premium in

> > full.

> > Insurance companies won't be allowed to refuse renewal because

> > someone became

> > sick.

> >

> > 8 common myths about health insurance reform

> >

> > 1.. Reform will stop " rationing " - not increase it: It's a myth that

> > reform will mean a " government takeover " of health care or lead to

> > " rationing. "

> > To the contrary, reform will forbid many forms of rationing that are

> > currently being used by insurance companies.

> > 2.. We can't afford reform: It's the status quo we can't afford.

> > It's a

> > myth that reform will bust the budget. To the contrary, the

> > President has

> > identified ways to pay for the vast majority of the up-front costs

> > by cutting

> > waste, fraud, and abuse within existing government health programs;

> > ending

> > big subsidies to insurance companies; and increasing efficiency with

> > such

> > steps as coordinating care and streamlining paperwork. In the long

> > term,

> > reform can help bring down costs that will otherwise lead to a

> > fiscal crisis.

> > 3.. Reform would encourage " euthanasia " : It does not. It's a

> > malicious

> > myth that reform would encourage or even require euthanasia for

> > seniors. For

> > seniors who want to consult with their family and physicians about

> > end-of

> > life decisions, reform will help to cover these voluntary, private

> > consultations for those who want help with these personal and

> > difficult family

> > decisions.

> > 4.. Vets' health care is safe and sound: It's a myth that health

> > insurance

> > reform will affect veterans' access to the care they get now. To the

> > contrary, the President's budget significantly expands coverage

> > under the VA,

> > extending care to 500,000 more veterans who were previously

> > excluded. The VA

> > Healthcare system will continue to be available for all eligible

> > veterans.

> > 5.. Reform will benefit small business - not burden it: It's a myth

> > that

> > health insurance reform will hurt small businesses. To the contrary,

> > reform

> > will ease the burdens on small businesses, provide tax credits to

> > help them

> > pay for employee coverage and help level the playing field with big

> > firms

> > who pay much less to cover their employees on average.

> > 6.. Your Medicare is safe, and stronger with reform: It's myth that

> > Health

> > Insurance Reform would be financed by cutting Medicare benefits. To

> > the

> > contrary, reform will improve the long-term financial health of

> > Medicare,

> > ensure better coordination, eliminate waste and unnecessary

> > subsidies to

> > insurance companies, and help to close the Medicare " doughnut " hole

> > to make

> > prescription drugs more affordable for seniors.

> > 7.. You can keep your own insurance: It's myth that reform will

> > force you

> > out of your current insurance plan or force you to change doctors.

> > To the

> > contrary, reform will expand your choices, not eliminate them.

> > 8. No, government will not do anything with your bank account: It is

> > an

> > absurd myth that government will be in charge of your bank accounts.

> > Health

> > insurance reform will simplify administration, making it easier and

> > more

> > convenient for you to pay bills in a method that you choose. Just

> > like paying

> > a phone bill or a utility bill, you can pay by traditional check, or

> > by a

> > direct electronic payment. And forms will be standardized so they

> > will be

> > easier to understand. The choice is up to you - and the same rules

> > of privacy

> > will apply as they do for all other electronic payments that people

> > make.

> >

> >

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How about getting rid of Pre-existing condition clauses, and denial of

coverage for catastrophic injury/illness, if you pay for the coverage

you should not worry about if they are going to cover you in the event

of the " unthinkable "

-Chris

>

> Oh yeah...

>

> My ideas for health care reform...

>

> 1.? Tort reform.? Limit the amount of non-economic damages people

> can get on all cases except gross negligence...much like city,

> county and the state has today.

>

> 2.? Remove state laws that both require all insurance to cover

> EVERYTHING a politician thinks should be covered and prevents

> insurance from being sold across state lines. Why can't I buy a

> policy like a friend of mine has in Wyoming while in Texas??? Also,

> it help promote competition which will drive down costs.? I heard a

> Pennsylvania congress person the other night say that 2 insurance

> companies provide over 80% of the insurance in Pennsylvania...no

> wonder the rates are going up...there is no competition to bring it

> down.

>

> 3.? Allow REAL healthcare savings accounts.? Where you can save a

> nice large sum of money to provide both day-to-day expenses as well

> as the deductible of a catastrophic health insurance policy.? Not an

> account you have to empty every year...but one where you can truly

> save a good amount of money PRE-tax.? My idea is you can keep up to

> 3 times your deductible and if you go over that, then you can put

> 1/2 of your overage into a retirement account with no tax penalty

> and if you don't spend the rest on healthcare activities...then it

> gets taxed down to the limit to help offset the cost of the private

> insurance we are buying those who cannot afford to get it on their

> own.? This provides incentive to spend some of your savings on

> preventative things to make you healthier.

>

> 4.? Provide insurance (private insurance) for those who cannot

> afford insurance.

>

> 5.? Work to eliminate ALL the fraud in our current government

> insurance plans and work to get them up to paying the true cost of

> providing the service.

>

> I think that is a good place to start...in my opinion anyway.

>

> Dudley

>

> Re: Health Care Reform Facts for the Educate

> Person

>

> Based on you response " Capitalism works. where it breaks down is

> when government tries to make it work *better*. If I take that to

> heart in EMS then all the EMS Districts, DSHS, and all the City/

> County/Hospital District services are broken down. That the way I

> interpret it, but am I wrong? If so tell me what you mean.

> Thank you and EVERYONE responding, because this is " not " something

> we can ignore anymore, and it has been far to long. I've seen to

> many Veterans lying on the ground dying, and elderly that have zero

> health care, and if you believe in that then please rethink. Are we

> suppose to through all the 400-800 State School Clients out of the

> Government run system here on the street as threaten to do

> last session? They are all on Medicaid or Medicare. Medicaid and

> Medicare are all government contracted services, so if you want the

> government out of health care them through them on the street " now " !

> Tough talk, but it's a tough world for those without health care.

> Ron

> 8 ways

> > >

> > > 8 ways reform provides security and stability to those with or

> without

> > > coverage

> > >

> > > 1.. Ends Discrimination for Pre-Existing Conditions: Insurance

> > > companies

> > > will be prohibited from refusing you coverage because of your

> medical

> > > history.

> > > 2.. Ends Exorbitant Out-of-Pocket Expenses, Deductibles or Co-

> Pays:

> > > Insurance companies will have to abide by yearly caps on how much

> > > they can charge

> > > for out-of-pocket expenses.

> > > 3.. Ends Cost-Sharing for Preventive Care: Insurance companies

> must

> > > fully

> > > cover, without charge, regular checkups and tests that help you

> > > prevent

> > > illness, such as mammograms or eye and foot exams for diabetics.

> > > 4.. Ends Dropping of Coverage for Seriously Ill: Insurance

> companies

> > > will

> > > be prohibited from dropping or watering down insurance coverage

> for

> > > those

> > > who become seriously ill.

> > > 5.. Ends Gender Discrimination: Insurance companies will be

> prohibited

> > > from charging you more because of your gender.

> > > 6.. Ends Annual or Lifetime Caps on Coverage: Insurance companies

> > > will be

> > > prevented from placing annual or lifetime caps on the coverage you

> > > receive.

> > > 7.. Extends Coverage for Young Adults: Children would continue

> to be

> > > eligible for family coverage through the age of 26.

> > > 8.. Guarantees Insurance Renewal: Insurance companies will be

> > > required to

> > > renew any policy as long as the policyholder pays their premium in

> > > full.

> > > Insurance companies won't be allowed to refuse renewal because

> > > someone became

> > > sick.

> > >

> > > 8 common myths about health insurance reform

> > >

> > > 1.. Reform will stop " rationing " - not increase it: It's a myth

> that

> > > reform will mean a " government takeover " of health care or lead to

> > > " rationing. "

> > > To the contrary, reform will forbid many forms of rationing that

> are

> > > currently being used by insurance companies.

> > > 2.. We can't afford reform: It's the status quo we can't afford.

> > > It's a

> > > myth that reform will bust the budget. To the contrary, the

> > > President has

> > > identified ways to pay for the vast majority of the up-front costs

> > > by cutting

> > > waste, fraud, and abuse within existing government health

> programs;

> > > ending

> > > big subsidies to insurance companies; and increasing efficiency

> with

> > > such

> > > steps as coordinating care and streamlining paperwork. In the long

> > > term,

> > > reform can help bring down costs that will otherwise lead to a

> > > fiscal crisis.

> > > 3.. Reform would encourage " euthanasia " : It does not. It's a

> > > malicious

> > > myth that reform would encourage or even require euthanasia for

> > > seniors. For

> > > seniors who want to consult with their family and physicians about

> > > end-of

> > > life decisions, reform will help to cover these voluntary, private

> > > consultations for those who want help with these personal and

> > > difficult family

> > > decisions.

> > > 4.. Vets' health care is safe and sound: It's a myth that health

> > > insurance

> > > reform will affect veterans' access to the care they get now. To

> the

> > > contrary, the President's budget significantly expands coverage

> > > under the VA,

> > > extending care to 500,000 more veterans who were previously

> > > excluded. The VA

> > > Healthcare system will continue to be available for all eligible

> > > veterans.

> > > 5.. Reform will benefit small business - not burden it: It's a

> myth

> > > that

> > > health insurance reform will hurt small businesses. To the

> contrary,

> > > reform

> > > will ease the burdens on small businesses, provide tax credits to

> > > help them

> > > pay for employee coverage and help level the playing field with

> big

> > > firms

> > > who pay much less to cover their employees on average.

> > > 6.. Your Medicare is safe, and stronger with reform: It's myth

> that

> > > Health

> > > Insurance Reform would be financed by cutting Medicare benefits.

> To

> > > the

> > > contrary, reform will improve the long-term financial health of

> > > Medicare,

> > > ensure better coordination, eliminate waste and unnecessary

> > > subsidies to

> > > insurance companies, and help to close the Medicare " doughnut "

> hole

> > > to make

> > > prescription drugs more affordable for seniors.

> > > 7.. You can keep your own insurance: It's myth that reform will

> > > force you

> > > out of your current insurance plan or force you to change doctors.

> > > To the

> > > contrary, reform will expand your choices, not eliminate them.

> > > 8. No, government will not do anything with your bank account:

> It is

> > > an

> > > absurd myth that government will be in charge of your bank

> accounts.

> > > Health

> > > insurance reform will simplify administration, making it easier

> and

> > > more

> > > convenient for you to pay bills in a method that you choose. Just

> > > like paying

> > > a phone bill or a utility bill, you can pay by traditional

> check, or

> > > by a

> > > direct electronic payment. And forms will be standardized so they

> > > will be

> > > easier to understand. The choice is up to you - and the same rules

> > > of privacy

> > > will apply as they do for all other electronic payments that

> people

> > > make.

> > >

> > >

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How about getting rid of Pre-existing condition clauses, and denial of

coverage for catastrophic injury/illness, if you pay for the coverage

you should not worry about if they are going to cover you in the event

of the " unthinkable "

-Chris

>

> Oh yeah...

>

> My ideas for health care reform...

>

> 1.? Tort reform.? Limit the amount of non-economic damages people

> can get on all cases except gross negligence...much like city,

> county and the state has today.

>

> 2.? Remove state laws that both require all insurance to cover

> EVERYTHING a politician thinks should be covered and prevents

> insurance from being sold across state lines. Why can't I buy a

> policy like a friend of mine has in Wyoming while in Texas??? Also,

> it help promote competition which will drive down costs.? I heard a

> Pennsylvania congress person the other night say that 2 insurance

> companies provide over 80% of the insurance in Pennsylvania...no

> wonder the rates are going up...there is no competition to bring it

> down.

>

> 3.? Allow REAL healthcare savings accounts.? Where you can save a

> nice large sum of money to provide both day-to-day expenses as well

> as the deductible of a catastrophic health insurance policy.? Not an

> account you have to empty every year...but one where you can truly

> save a good amount of money PRE-tax.? My idea is you can keep up to

> 3 times your deductible and if you go over that, then you can put

> 1/2 of your overage into a retirement account with no tax penalty

> and if you don't spend the rest on healthcare activities...then it

> gets taxed down to the limit to help offset the cost of the private

> insurance we are buying those who cannot afford to get it on their

> own.? This provides incentive to spend some of your savings on

> preventative things to make you healthier.

>

> 4.? Provide insurance (private insurance) for those who cannot

> afford insurance.

>

> 5.? Work to eliminate ALL the fraud in our current government

> insurance plans and work to get them up to paying the true cost of

> providing the service.

>

> I think that is a good place to start...in my opinion anyway.

>

> Dudley

>

> Re: Health Care Reform Facts for the Educate

> Person

>

> Based on you response " Capitalism works. where it breaks down is

> when government tries to make it work *better*. If I take that to

> heart in EMS then all the EMS Districts, DSHS, and all the City/

> County/Hospital District services are broken down. That the way I

> interpret it, but am I wrong? If so tell me what you mean.

> Thank you and EVERYONE responding, because this is " not " something

> we can ignore anymore, and it has been far to long. I've seen to

> many Veterans lying on the ground dying, and elderly that have zero

> health care, and if you believe in that then please rethink. Are we

> suppose to through all the 400-800 State School Clients out of the

> Government run system here on the street as threaten to do

> last session? They are all on Medicaid or Medicare. Medicaid and

> Medicare are all government contracted services, so if you want the

> government out of health care them through them on the street " now " !

> Tough talk, but it's a tough world for those without health care.

> Ron

> 8 ways

> > >

> > > 8 ways reform provides security and stability to those with or

> without

> > > coverage

> > >

> > > 1.. Ends Discrimination for Pre-Existing Conditions: Insurance

> > > companies

> > > will be prohibited from refusing you coverage because of your

> medical

> > > history.

> > > 2.. Ends Exorbitant Out-of-Pocket Expenses, Deductibles or Co-

> Pays:

> > > Insurance companies will have to abide by yearly caps on how much

> > > they can charge

> > > for out-of-pocket expenses.

> > > 3.. Ends Cost-Sharing for Preventive Care: Insurance companies

> must

> > > fully

> > > cover, without charge, regular checkups and tests that help you

> > > prevent

> > > illness, such as mammograms or eye and foot exams for diabetics.

> > > 4.. Ends Dropping of Coverage for Seriously Ill: Insurance

> companies

> > > will

> > > be prohibited from dropping or watering down insurance coverage

> for

> > > those

> > > who become seriously ill.

> > > 5.. Ends Gender Discrimination: Insurance companies will be

> prohibited

> > > from charging you more because of your gender.

> > > 6.. Ends Annual or Lifetime Caps on Coverage: Insurance companies

> > > will be

> > > prevented from placing annual or lifetime caps on the coverage you

> > > receive.

> > > 7.. Extends Coverage for Young Adults: Children would continue

> to be

> > > eligible for family coverage through the age of 26.

> > > 8.. Guarantees Insurance Renewal: Insurance companies will be

> > > required to

> > > renew any policy as long as the policyholder pays their premium in

> > > full.

> > > Insurance companies won't be allowed to refuse renewal because

> > > someone became

> > > sick.

> > >

> > > 8 common myths about health insurance reform

> > >

> > > 1.. Reform will stop " rationing " - not increase it: It's a myth

> that

> > > reform will mean a " government takeover " of health care or lead to

> > > " rationing. "

> > > To the contrary, reform will forbid many forms of rationing that

> are

> > > currently being used by insurance companies.

> > > 2.. We can't afford reform: It's the status quo we can't afford.

> > > It's a

> > > myth that reform will bust the budget. To the contrary, the

> > > President has

> > > identified ways to pay for the vast majority of the up-front costs

> > > by cutting

> > > waste, fraud, and abuse within existing government health

> programs;

> > > ending

> > > big subsidies to insurance companies; and increasing efficiency

> with

> > > such

> > > steps as coordinating care and streamlining paperwork. In the long

> > > term,

> > > reform can help bring down costs that will otherwise lead to a

> > > fiscal crisis.

> > > 3.. Reform would encourage " euthanasia " : It does not. It's a

> > > malicious

> > > myth that reform would encourage or even require euthanasia for

> > > seniors. For

> > > seniors who want to consult with their family and physicians about

> > > end-of

> > > life decisions, reform will help to cover these voluntary, private

> > > consultations for those who want help with these personal and

> > > difficult family

> > > decisions.

> > > 4.. Vets' health care is safe and sound: It's a myth that health

> > > insurance

> > > reform will affect veterans' access to the care they get now. To

> the

> > > contrary, the President's budget significantly expands coverage

> > > under the VA,

> > > extending care to 500,000 more veterans who were previously

> > > excluded. The VA

> > > Healthcare system will continue to be available for all eligible

> > > veterans.

> > > 5.. Reform will benefit small business - not burden it: It's a

> myth

> > > that

> > > health insurance reform will hurt small businesses. To the

> contrary,

> > > reform

> > > will ease the burdens on small businesses, provide tax credits to

> > > help them

> > > pay for employee coverage and help level the playing field with

> big

> > > firms

> > > who pay much less to cover their employees on average.

> > > 6.. Your Medicare is safe, and stronger with reform: It's myth

> that

> > > Health

> > > Insurance Reform would be financed by cutting Medicare benefits.

> To

> > > the

> > > contrary, reform will improve the long-term financial health of

> > > Medicare,

> > > ensure better coordination, eliminate waste and unnecessary

> > > subsidies to

> > > insurance companies, and help to close the Medicare " doughnut "

> hole

> > > to make

> > > prescription drugs more affordable for seniors.

> > > 7.. You can keep your own insurance: It's myth that reform will

> > > force you

> > > out of your current insurance plan or force you to change doctors.

> > > To the

> > > contrary, reform will expand your choices, not eliminate them.

> > > 8. No, government will not do anything with your bank account:

> It is

> > > an

> > > absurd myth that government will be in charge of your bank

> accounts.

> > > Health

> > > insurance reform will simplify administration, making it easier

> and

> > > more

> > > convenient for you to pay bills in a method that you choose. Just

> > > like paying

> > > a phone bill or a utility bill, you can pay by traditional

> check, or

> > > by a

> > > direct electronic payment. And forms will be standardized so they

> > > will be

> > > easier to understand. The choice is up to you - and the same rules

> > > of privacy

> > > will apply as they do for all other electronic payments that

> people

> > > make.

> > >

> > >

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So I guess you read all the 5-6 , 1,000 page bills to get all this information?

Some of your facts are right and some are some of the mis-information that gets

caught up in bills this complicated. So you prefer to keep picking up uninsured

patient by your EMS so they can be subsidized by people like me that are fully

insured?

Based on your ideas MY insurance should pick up the tab of those you pick up

that can't pay. That is what we do! Then your ESD money, and Government subsidy

you get pay for your salary and many others as well as I'm sure some nice

government funded benefits, with zero complaints about that type of socialism.

So you are already providing socialized medicine and can't figure that out.

We can muddy the water, or try to fix it. This is NOT something be forced down

someone's throats. I'm sure those opposed fill that way about anything and

everything they don't like. I don't like many things, but don't feel it was

shoved down my throat. I sat idle and let others have their way, but that party

has come to a stop since they have set the country back 100 years in just six

years, and trampled on the constitution and bill of rights as if it was toilet

paper.

Ron

8 ways

> >

> > 8 ways reform provides security and stability to those with or without

> > coverage

> >

> > 1.. Ends Discrimination for Pre-Existing Conditions: Insurance

> > companies

> > will be prohibited from refusing you coverage because of your medical

> > history.

> > 2.. Ends Exorbitant Out-of-Pocket Expenses, Deductibles or Co-Pays:

> > Insurance companies will have to abide by yearly caps on how much

> > they can charge

> > for out-of-pocket expenses.

> > 3.. Ends Cost-Sharing for Preventive Care: Insurance companies must

> > fully

> > cover, without charge, regular checkups and tests that help you

> > prevent

> > illness, such as mammograms or eye and foot exams for diabetics.

> > 4.. Ends Dropping of Coverage for Seriously Ill: Insurance companies

> > will

> > be prohibited from dropping or watering down insurance coverage for

> > those

> > who become seriously ill.

> > 5.. Ends Gender Discrimination: Insurance companies will be prohibited

> > from charging you more because of your gender.

> > 6.. Ends Annual or Lifetime Caps on Coverage: Insurance companies

> > will be

> > prevented from placing annual or lifetime caps on the coverage you

> > receive.

> > 7.. Extends Coverage for Young Adults: Children would continue to be

> > eligible for family coverage through the age of 26.

> > 8.. Guarantees Insurance Renewal: Insurance companies will be

> > required to

> > renew any policy as long as the policyholder pays their premium in

> > full.

> > Insurance companies won't be allowed to refuse renewal because

> > someone became

> > sick.

> >

> > 8 common myths about health insurance reform

> >

> > 1.. Reform will stop " rationing " - not increase it: It's a myth that

> > reform will mean a " government takeover " of health care or lead to

> > " rationing. "

> > To the contrary, reform will forbid many forms of rationing that are

> > currently being used by insurance companies.

> > 2.. We can't afford reform: It's the status quo we can't afford.

> > It's a

> > myth that reform will bust the budget. To the contrary, the

> > President has

> > identified ways to pay for the vast majority of the up-front costs

> > by cutting

> > waste, fraud, and abuse within existing government health programs;

> > ending

> > big subsidies to insurance companies; and increasing efficiency with

> > such

> > steps as coordinating care and streamlining paperwork. In the long

> > term,

> > reform can help bring down costs that will otherwise lead to a

> > fiscal crisis.

> > 3.. Reform would encourage " euthanasia " : It does not. It's a

> > malicious

> > myth that reform would encourage or even require euthanasia for

> > seniors. For

> > seniors who want to consult with their family and physicians about

> > end-of

> > life decisions, reform will help to cover these voluntary, private

> > consultations for those who want help with these personal and

> > difficult family

> > decisions.

> > 4.. Vets' health care is safe and sound: It's a myth that health

> > insurance

> > reform will affect veterans' access to the care they get now. To the

> > contrary, the President's budget significantly expands coverage

> > under the VA,

> > extending care to 500,000 more veterans who were previously

> > excluded. The VA

> > Healthcare system will continue to be available for all eligible

> > veterans.

> > 5.. Reform will benefit small business - not burden it: It's a myth

> > that

> > health insurance reform will hurt small businesses. To the contrary,

> > reform

> > will ease the burdens on small businesses, provide tax credits to

> > help them

> > pay for employee coverage and help level the playing field with big

> > firms

> > who pay much less to cover their employees on average.

> > 6.. Your Medicare is safe, and stronger with reform: It's myth that

> > Health

> > Insurance Reform would be financed by cutting Medicare benefits. To

> > the

> > contrary, reform will improve the long-term financial health of

> > Medicare,

> > ensure better coordination, eliminate waste and unnecessary

> > subsidies to

> > insurance companies, and help to close the Medicare " doughnut " hole

> > to make

> > prescription drugs more affordable for seniors.

> > 7.. You can keep your own insurance: It's myth that reform will

> > force you

> > out of your current insurance plan or force you to change doctors.

> > To the

> > contrary, reform will expand your choices, not eliminate them.

> > 8. No, government will not do anything with your bank account: It is

> > an

> > absurd myth that government will be in charge of your bank accounts.

> > Health

> > insurance reform will simplify administration, making it easier and

> > more

> > convenient for you to pay bills in a method that you choose. Just

> > like paying

> > a phone bill or a utility bill, you can pay by traditional check, or

> > by a

> > direct electronic payment. And forms will be standardized so they

> > will be

> > easier to understand. The choice is up to you - and the same rules

> > of privacy

> > will apply as they do for all other electronic payments that people

> > make.

> >

> >

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So I guess you read all the 5-6 , 1,000 page bills to get all this information?

Some of your facts are right and some are some of the mis-information that gets

caught up in bills this complicated. So you prefer to keep picking up uninsured

patient by your EMS so they can be subsidized by people like me that are fully

insured?

Based on your ideas MY insurance should pick up the tab of those you pick up

that can't pay. That is what we do! Then your ESD money, and Government subsidy

you get pay for your salary and many others as well as I'm sure some nice

government funded benefits, with zero complaints about that type of socialism.

So you are already providing socialized medicine and can't figure that out.

We can muddy the water, or try to fix it. This is NOT something be forced down

someone's throats. I'm sure those opposed fill that way about anything and

everything they don't like. I don't like many things, but don't feel it was

shoved down my throat. I sat idle and let others have their way, but that party

has come to a stop since they have set the country back 100 years in just six

years, and trampled on the constitution and bill of rights as if it was toilet

paper.

Ron

8 ways

> >

> > 8 ways reform provides security and stability to those with or without

> > coverage

> >

> > 1.. Ends Discrimination for Pre-Existing Conditions: Insurance

> > companies

> > will be prohibited from refusing you coverage because of your medical

> > history.

> > 2.. Ends Exorbitant Out-of-Pocket Expenses, Deductibles or Co-Pays:

> > Insurance companies will have to abide by yearly caps on how much

> > they can charge

> > for out-of-pocket expenses.

> > 3.. Ends Cost-Sharing for Preventive Care: Insurance companies must

> > fully

> > cover, without charge, regular checkups and tests that help you

> > prevent

> > illness, such as mammograms or eye and foot exams for diabetics.

> > 4.. Ends Dropping of Coverage for Seriously Ill: Insurance companies

> > will

> > be prohibited from dropping or watering down insurance coverage for

> > those

> > who become seriously ill.

> > 5.. Ends Gender Discrimination: Insurance companies will be prohibited

> > from charging you more because of your gender.

> > 6.. Ends Annual or Lifetime Caps on Coverage: Insurance companies

> > will be

> > prevented from placing annual or lifetime caps on the coverage you

> > receive.

> > 7.. Extends Coverage for Young Adults: Children would continue to be

> > eligible for family coverage through the age of 26.

> > 8.. Guarantees Insurance Renewal: Insurance companies will be

> > required to

> > renew any policy as long as the policyholder pays their premium in

> > full.

> > Insurance companies won't be allowed to refuse renewal because

> > someone became

> > sick.

> >

> > 8 common myths about health insurance reform

> >

> > 1.. Reform will stop " rationing " - not increase it: It's a myth that

> > reform will mean a " government takeover " of health care or lead to

> > " rationing. "

> > To the contrary, reform will forbid many forms of rationing that are

> > currently being used by insurance companies.

> > 2.. We can't afford reform: It's the status quo we can't afford.

> > It's a

> > myth that reform will bust the budget. To the contrary, the

> > President has

> > identified ways to pay for the vast majority of the up-front costs

> > by cutting

> > waste, fraud, and abuse within existing government health programs;

> > ending

> > big subsidies to insurance companies; and increasing efficiency with

> > such

> > steps as coordinating care and streamlining paperwork. In the long

> > term,

> > reform can help bring down costs that will otherwise lead to a

> > fiscal crisis.

> > 3.. Reform would encourage " euthanasia " : It does not. It's a

> > malicious

> > myth that reform would encourage or even require euthanasia for

> > seniors. For

> > seniors who want to consult with their family and physicians about

> > end-of

> > life decisions, reform will help to cover these voluntary, private

> > consultations for those who want help with these personal and

> > difficult family

> > decisions.

> > 4.. Vets' health care is safe and sound: It's a myth that health

> > insurance

> > reform will affect veterans' access to the care they get now. To the

> > contrary, the President's budget significantly expands coverage

> > under the VA,

> > extending care to 500,000 more veterans who were previously

> > excluded. The VA

> > Healthcare system will continue to be available for all eligible

> > veterans.

> > 5.. Reform will benefit small business - not burden it: It's a myth

> > that

> > health insurance reform will hurt small businesses. To the contrary,

> > reform

> > will ease the burdens on small businesses, provide tax credits to

> > help them

> > pay for employee coverage and help level the playing field with big

> > firms

> > who pay much less to cover their employees on average.

> > 6.. Your Medicare is safe, and stronger with reform: It's myth that

> > Health

> > Insurance Reform would be financed by cutting Medicare benefits. To

> > the

> > contrary, reform will improve the long-term financial health of

> > Medicare,

> > ensure better coordination, eliminate waste and unnecessary

> > subsidies to

> > insurance companies, and help to close the Medicare " doughnut " hole

> > to make

> > prescription drugs more affordable for seniors.

> > 7.. You can keep your own insurance: It's myth that reform will

> > force you

> > out of your current insurance plan or force you to change doctors.

> > To the

> > contrary, reform will expand your choices, not eliminate them.

> > 8. No, government will not do anything with your bank account: It is

> > an

> > absurd myth that government will be in charge of your bank accounts.

> > Health

> > insurance reform will simplify administration, making it easier and

> > more

> > convenient for you to pay bills in a method that you choose. Just

> > like paying

> > a phone bill or a utility bill, you can pay by traditional check, or

> > by a

> > direct electronic payment. And forms will be standardized so they

> > will be

> > easier to understand. The choice is up to you - and the same rules

> > of privacy

> > will apply as they do for all other electronic payments that people

> > make.

> >

> >

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So I guess you read all the 5-6 , 1,000 page bills to get all this information?

Some of your facts are right and some are some of the mis-information that gets

caught up in bills this complicated. So you prefer to keep picking up uninsured

patient by your EMS so they can be subsidized by people like me that are fully

insured?

Based on your ideas MY insurance should pick up the tab of those you pick up

that can't pay. That is what we do! Then your ESD money, and Government subsidy

you get pay for your salary and many others as well as I'm sure some nice

government funded benefits, with zero complaints about that type of socialism.

So you are already providing socialized medicine and can't figure that out.

We can muddy the water, or try to fix it. This is NOT something be forced down

someone's throats. I'm sure those opposed fill that way about anything and

everything they don't like. I don't like many things, but don't feel it was

shoved down my throat. I sat idle and let others have their way, but that party

has come to a stop since they have set the country back 100 years in just six

years, and trampled on the constitution and bill of rights as if it was toilet

paper.

Ron

8 ways

> >

> > 8 ways reform provides security and stability to those with or without

> > coverage

> >

> > 1.. Ends Discrimination for Pre-Existing Conditions: Insurance

> > companies

> > will be prohibited from refusing you coverage because of your medical

> > history.

> > 2.. Ends Exorbitant Out-of-Pocket Expenses, Deductibles or Co-Pays:

> > Insurance companies will have to abide by yearly caps on how much

> > they can charge

> > for out-of-pocket expenses.

> > 3.. Ends Cost-Sharing for Preventive Care: Insurance companies must

> > fully

> > cover, without charge, regular checkups and tests that help you

> > prevent

> > illness, such as mammograms or eye and foot exams for diabetics.

> > 4.. Ends Dropping of Coverage for Seriously Ill: Insurance companies

> > will

> > be prohibited from dropping or watering down insurance coverage for

> > those

> > who become seriously ill.

> > 5.. Ends Gender Discrimination: Insurance companies will be prohibited

> > from charging you more because of your gender.

> > 6.. Ends Annual or Lifetime Caps on Coverage: Insurance companies

> > will be

> > prevented from placing annual or lifetime caps on the coverage you

> > receive.

> > 7.. Extends Coverage for Young Adults: Children would continue to be

> > eligible for family coverage through the age of 26.

> > 8.. Guarantees Insurance Renewal: Insurance companies will be

> > required to

> > renew any policy as long as the policyholder pays their premium in

> > full.

> > Insurance companies won't be allowed to refuse renewal because

> > someone became

> > sick.

> >

> > 8 common myths about health insurance reform

> >

> > 1.. Reform will stop " rationing " - not increase it: It's a myth that

> > reform will mean a " government takeover " of health care or lead to

> > " rationing. "

> > To the contrary, reform will forbid many forms of rationing that are

> > currently being used by insurance companies.

> > 2.. We can't afford reform: It's the status quo we can't afford.

> > It's a

> > myth that reform will bust the budget. To the contrary, the

> > President has

> > identified ways to pay for the vast majority of the up-front costs

> > by cutting

> > waste, fraud, and abuse within existing government health programs;

> > ending

> > big subsidies to insurance companies; and increasing efficiency with

> > such

> > steps as coordinating care and streamlining paperwork. In the long

> > term,

> > reform can help bring down costs that will otherwise lead to a

> > fiscal crisis.

> > 3.. Reform would encourage " euthanasia " : It does not. It's a

> > malicious

> > myth that reform would encourage or even require euthanasia for

> > seniors. For

> > seniors who want to consult with their family and physicians about

> > end-of

> > life decisions, reform will help to cover these voluntary, private

> > consultations for those who want help with these personal and

> > difficult family

> > decisions.

> > 4.. Vets' health care is safe and sound: It's a myth that health

> > insurance

> > reform will affect veterans' access to the care they get now. To the

> > contrary, the President's budget significantly expands coverage

> > under the VA,

> > extending care to 500,000 more veterans who were previously

> > excluded. The VA

> > Healthcare system will continue to be available for all eligible

> > veterans.

> > 5.. Reform will benefit small business - not burden it: It's a myth

> > that

> > health insurance reform will hurt small businesses. To the contrary,

> > reform

> > will ease the burdens on small businesses, provide tax credits to

> > help them

> > pay for employee coverage and help level the playing field with big

> > firms

> > who pay much less to cover their employees on average.

> > 6.. Your Medicare is safe, and stronger with reform: It's myth that

> > Health

> > Insurance Reform would be financed by cutting Medicare benefits. To

> > the

> > contrary, reform will improve the long-term financial health of

> > Medicare,

> > ensure better coordination, eliminate waste and unnecessary

> > subsidies to

> > insurance companies, and help to close the Medicare " doughnut " hole

> > to make

> > prescription drugs more affordable for seniors.

> > 7.. You can keep your own insurance: It's myth that reform will

> > force you

> > out of your current insurance plan or force you to change doctors.

> > To the

> > contrary, reform will expand your choices, not eliminate them.

> > 8. No, government will not do anything with your bank account: It is

> > an

> > absurd myth that government will be in charge of your bank accounts.

> > Health

> > insurance reform will simplify administration, making it easier and

> > more

> > convenient for you to pay bills in a method that you choose. Just

> > like paying

> > a phone bill or a utility bill, you can pay by traditional check, or

> > by a

> > direct electronic payment. And forms will be standardized so they

> > will be

> > easier to understand. The choice is up to you - and the same rules

> > of privacy

> > will apply as they do for all other electronic payments that people

> > make.

> >

> >

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Coincidentally, this past week I was denied coverage for a pre-

existing condition by a private provider. The pre-existing condition

is central sleep apnea which I have had, and paid out of pocket for my

Bi-Pap and equipment for years I have now been placed in the Texas

High Risk Pool for any other insurance company I apply for, so in

other words I have been all but black listed for any future coverage I

seek. I am more than willing to pay for insurance but I will now

probably have to jump through hoops to get coverage for the rest of my

life. So that it partial motive behind my anger at our current

system. Is it my problem? Yes, but its not right no matter who it

happens to!!

-Chris

p.s. I am also only 29 years old thats along time before I qualify for

medicare!!

>

> 8 ways

> > >

> > > 8 ways reform provides security and stability to those with or

> without

> > > coverage

> > >

> > > 1.. Ends Discrimination for Pre-Existing Conditions: Insurance

> > > companies

> > > will be prohibited from refusing you coverage because of your

> medical

> > > history.

> > > 2.. Ends Exorbitant Out-of-Pocket Expenses, Deductibles or Co-

> Pays:

> > > Insurance companies will have to abide by yearly caps on how much

> > > they can charge

> > > for out-of-pocket expenses.

> > > 3.. Ends Cost-Sharing for Preventive Care: Insurance companies

> must

> > > fully

> > > cover, without charge, regular checkups and tests that help you

> > > prevent

> > > illness, such as mammograms or eye and foot exams for diabetics.

> > > 4.. Ends Dropping of Coverage for Seriously Ill: Insurance

> companies

> > > will

> > > be prohibited from dropping or watering down insurance coverage

> for

> > > those

> > > who become seriously ill.

> > > 5.. Ends Gender Discrimination: Insurance companies will be

> prohibited

> > > from charging you more because of your gender.

> > > 6.. Ends Annual or Lifetime Caps on Coverage: Insurance companies

> > > will be

> > > prevented from placing annual or lifetime caps on the coverage you

> > > receive.

> > > 7.. Extends Coverage for Young Adults: Children would continue

> to be

> > > eligible for family coverage through the age of 26.

> > > 8.. Guarantees Insurance Renewal: Insurance companies will be

> > > required to

> > > renew any policy as long as the policyholder pays their premium in

> > > full.

> > > Insurance companies won't be allowed to refuse renewal because

> > > someone became

> > > sick.

> > >

> > > 8 common myths about health insurance reform

> > >

> > > 1.. Reform will stop " rationing " - not increase it: It's a myth

> that

> > > reform will mean a " government takeover " of health care or lead to

> > > " rationing. "

> > > To the contrary, reform will forbid many forms of rationing that

> are

> > > currently being used by insurance companies.

> > > 2.. We can't afford reform: It's the status quo we can't afford.

> > > It's a

> > > myth that reform will bust the budget. To the contrary, the

> > > President has

> > > identified ways to pay for the vast majority of the up-front costs

> > > by cutting

> > > waste, fraud, and abuse within existing government health

> programs;

> > > ending

> > > big subsidies to insurance companies; and increasing efficiency

> with

> > > such

> > > steps as coordinating care and streamlining paperwork. In the long

> > > term,

> > > reform can help bring down costs that will otherwise lead to a

> > > fiscal crisis.

> > > 3.. Reform would encourage " euthanasia " : It does not. It's a

> > > malicious

> > > myth that reform would encourage or even require euthanasia for

> > > seniors. For

> > > seniors who want to consult with their family and physicians about

> > > end-of

> > > life decisions, reform will help to cover these voluntary, private

> > > consultations for those who want help with these personal and

> > > difficult family

> > > decisions.

> > > 4.. Vets' health care is safe and sound: It's a myth that health

> > > insurance

> > > reform will affect veterans' access to the care they get now. To

> the

> > > contrary, the President's budget significantly expands coverage

> > > under the VA,

> > > extending care to 500,000 more veterans who were previously

> > > excluded. The VA

> > > Healthcare system will continue to be available for all eligible

> > > veterans.

> > > 5.. Reform will benefit small business - not burden it: It's a

> myth

> > > that

> > > health insurance reform will hurt small businesses. To the

> contrary,

> > > reform

> > > will ease the burdens on small businesses, provide tax credits to

> > > help them

> > > pay for employee coverage and help level the playing field with

> big

> > > firms

> > > who pay much less to cover their employees on average.

> > > 6.. Your Medicare is safe, and stronger with reform: It's myth

> that

> > > Health

> > > Insurance Reform would be financed by cutting Medicare benefits.

> To

> > > the

> > > contrary, reform will improve the long-term financial health of

> > > Medicare,

> > > ensure better coordination, eliminate waste and unnecessary

> > > subsidies to

> > > insurance companies, and help to close the Medicare " doughnut "

> hole

> > > to make

> > > prescription drugs more affordable for seniors.

> > > 7.. You can keep your own insurance: It's myth that reform will

> > > force you

> > > out of your current insurance plan or force you to change doctors.

> > > To the

> > > contrary, reform will expand your choices, not eliminate them.

> > > 8. No, government will not do anything with your bank account:

> It is

> > > an

> > > absurd myth that government will be in charge of your bank

> accounts.

> > > Health

> > > insurance reform will simplify administration, making it easier

> and

> > > more

> > > convenient for you to pay bills in a method that you choose. Just

> > > like paying

> > > a phone bill or a utility bill, you can pay by traditional

> check, or

> > > by a

> > > direct electronic payment. And forms will be standardized so they

> > > will be

> > > easier to understand. The choice is up to you - and the same rules

> > > of privacy

> > > will apply as they do for all other electronic payments that

> people

> > > make.

> > >

> > >

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Coincidentally, this past week I was denied coverage for a pre-

existing condition by a private provider. The pre-existing condition

is central sleep apnea which I have had, and paid out of pocket for my

Bi-Pap and equipment for years I have now been placed in the Texas

High Risk Pool for any other insurance company I apply for, so in

other words I have been all but black listed for any future coverage I

seek. I am more than willing to pay for insurance but I will now

probably have to jump through hoops to get coverage for the rest of my

life. So that it partial motive behind my anger at our current

system. Is it my problem? Yes, but its not right no matter who it

happens to!!

-Chris

p.s. I am also only 29 years old thats along time before I qualify for

medicare!!

>

> 8 ways

> > >

> > > 8 ways reform provides security and stability to those with or

> without

> > > coverage

> > >

> > > 1.. Ends Discrimination for Pre-Existing Conditions: Insurance

> > > companies

> > > will be prohibited from refusing you coverage because of your

> medical

> > > history.

> > > 2.. Ends Exorbitant Out-of-Pocket Expenses, Deductibles or Co-

> Pays:

> > > Insurance companies will have to abide by yearly caps on how much

> > > they can charge

> > > for out-of-pocket expenses.

> > > 3.. Ends Cost-Sharing for Preventive Care: Insurance companies

> must

> > > fully

> > > cover, without charge, regular checkups and tests that help you

> > > prevent

> > > illness, such as mammograms or eye and foot exams for diabetics.

> > > 4.. Ends Dropping of Coverage for Seriously Ill: Insurance

> companies

> > > will

> > > be prohibited from dropping or watering down insurance coverage

> for

> > > those

> > > who become seriously ill.

> > > 5.. Ends Gender Discrimination: Insurance companies will be

> prohibited

> > > from charging you more because of your gender.

> > > 6.. Ends Annual or Lifetime Caps on Coverage: Insurance companies

> > > will be

> > > prevented from placing annual or lifetime caps on the coverage you

> > > receive.

> > > 7.. Extends Coverage for Young Adults: Children would continue

> to be

> > > eligible for family coverage through the age of 26.

> > > 8.. Guarantees Insurance Renewal: Insurance companies will be

> > > required to

> > > renew any policy as long as the policyholder pays their premium in

> > > full.

> > > Insurance companies won't be allowed to refuse renewal because

> > > someone became

> > > sick.

> > >

> > > 8 common myths about health insurance reform

> > >

> > > 1.. Reform will stop " rationing " - not increase it: It's a myth

> that

> > > reform will mean a " government takeover " of health care or lead to

> > > " rationing. "

> > > To the contrary, reform will forbid many forms of rationing that

> are

> > > currently being used by insurance companies.

> > > 2.. We can't afford reform: It's the status quo we can't afford.

> > > It's a

> > > myth that reform will bust the budget. To the contrary, the

> > > President has

> > > identified ways to pay for the vast majority of the up-front costs

> > > by cutting

> > > waste, fraud, and abuse within existing government health

> programs;

> > > ending

> > > big subsidies to insurance companies; and increasing efficiency

> with

> > > such

> > > steps as coordinating care and streamlining paperwork. In the long

> > > term,

> > > reform can help bring down costs that will otherwise lead to a

> > > fiscal crisis.

> > > 3.. Reform would encourage " euthanasia " : It does not. It's a

> > > malicious

> > > myth that reform would encourage or even require euthanasia for

> > > seniors. For

> > > seniors who want to consult with their family and physicians about

> > > end-of

> > > life decisions, reform will help to cover these voluntary, private

> > > consultations for those who want help with these personal and

> > > difficult family

> > > decisions.

> > > 4.. Vets' health care is safe and sound: It's a myth that health

> > > insurance

> > > reform will affect veterans' access to the care they get now. To

> the

> > > contrary, the President's budget significantly expands coverage

> > > under the VA,

> > > extending care to 500,000 more veterans who were previously

> > > excluded. The VA

> > > Healthcare system will continue to be available for all eligible

> > > veterans.

> > > 5.. Reform will benefit small business - not burden it: It's a

> myth

> > > that

> > > health insurance reform will hurt small businesses. To the

> contrary,

> > > reform

> > > will ease the burdens on small businesses, provide tax credits to

> > > help them

> > > pay for employee coverage and help level the playing field with

> big

> > > firms

> > > who pay much less to cover their employees on average.

> > > 6.. Your Medicare is safe, and stronger with reform: It's myth

> that

> > > Health

> > > Insurance Reform would be financed by cutting Medicare benefits.

> To

> > > the

> > > contrary, reform will improve the long-term financial health of

> > > Medicare,

> > > ensure better coordination, eliminate waste and unnecessary

> > > subsidies to

> > > insurance companies, and help to close the Medicare " doughnut "

> hole

> > > to make

> > > prescription drugs more affordable for seniors.

> > > 7.. You can keep your own insurance: It's myth that reform will

> > > force you

> > > out of your current insurance plan or force you to change doctors.

> > > To the

> > > contrary, reform will expand your choices, not eliminate them.

> > > 8. No, government will not do anything with your bank account:

> It is

> > > an

> > > absurd myth that government will be in charge of your bank

> accounts.

> > > Health

> > > insurance reform will simplify administration, making it easier

> and

> > > more

> > > convenient for you to pay bills in a method that you choose. Just

> > > like paying

> > > a phone bill or a utility bill, you can pay by traditional

> check, or

> > > by a

> > > direct electronic payment. And forms will be standardized so they

> > > will be

> > > easier to understand. The choice is up to you - and the same rules

> > > of privacy

> > > will apply as they do for all other electronic payments that

> people

> > > make.

> > >

> > >

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Big start!!!! There is plenty more to be added. I do believe in our Country

and Government. I don't always agree with those in Washington, but it's worked

pretty darn good for over 200 years, and there is no country better. There are

countries that do individual things better and smarter, and much of that is

because our companies invested in them in stead of us, but that is another

endless conversation. When we quit dividing our country, take care of our own,

then we will be better for it. Although many would rather see us pump a Trillion

dollars into wars of convenience than a couple of billion in providing health

care to our see and needy. If we don't want health care for them then we should

not be in the health care business. Although I know many are in it for a pay

check. Not everyone in EMS gets low salaries and benefits.

If you don't care about the people that you serve you should not serve, because

that is just self serving as I see many do.

my 2 cents,

Ron

8 ways

> > >

> > > 8 ways reform provides security and stability to those with or

> without

> > > coverage

> > >

> > > 1.. Ends Discrimination for Pre-Existing Conditions: Insurance

> > > companies

> > > will be prohibited from refusing you coverage because of your

> medical

> > > history.

> > > 2.. Ends Exorbitant Out-of-Pocket Expenses, Deductibles or Co-

> Pays:

> > > Insurance companies will have to abide by yearly caps on how much

> > > they can charge

> > > for out-of-pocket expenses.

> > > 3.. Ends Cost-Sharing for Preventive Care: Insurance companies

> must

> > > fully

> > > cover, without charge, regular checkups and tests that help you

> > > prevent

> > > illness, such as mammograms or eye and foot exams for diabetics.

> > > 4.. Ends Dropping of Coverage for Seriously Ill: Insurance

> companies

> > > will

> > > be prohibited from dropping or watering down insurance coverage

> for

> > > those

> > > who become seriously ill.

> > > 5.. Ends Gender Discrimination: Insurance companies will be

> prohibited

> > > from charging you more because of your gender.

> > > 6.. Ends Annual or Lifetime Caps on Coverage: Insurance companies

> > > will be

> > > prevented from placing annual or lifetime caps on the coverage you

> > > receive.

> > > 7.. Extends Coverage for Young Adults: Children would continue

> to be

> > > eligible for family coverage through the age of 26.

> > > 8.. Guarantees Insurance Renewal: Insurance companies will be

> > > required to

> > > renew any policy as long as the policyholder pays their premium in

> > > full.

> > > Insurance companies won't be allowed to refuse renewal because

> > > someone became

> > > sick.

> > >

> > > 8 common myths about health insurance reform

> > >

> > > 1.. Reform will stop " rationing " - not increase it: It's a myth

> that

> > > reform will mean a " government takeover " of health care or lead to

> > > " rationing. "

> > > To the contrary, reform will forbid many forms of rationing that

> are

> > > currently being used by insurance companies.

> > > 2.. We can't afford reform: It's the status quo we can't afford.

> > > It's a

> > > myth that reform will bust the budget. To the contrary, the

> > > President has

> > > identified ways to pay for the vast majority of the up-front costs

> > > by cutting

> > > waste, fraud, and abuse within existing government health

> programs;

> > > ending

> > > big subsidies to insurance companies; and increasing efficiency

> with

> > > such

> > > steps as coordinating care and streamlining paperwork. In the long

> > > term,

> > > reform can help bring down costs that will otherwise lead to a

> > > fiscal crisis.

> > > 3.. Reform would encourage " euthanasia " : It does not. It's a

> > > malicious

> > > myth that reform would encourage or even require euthanasia for

> > > seniors. For

> > > seniors who want to consult with their family and physicians about

> > > end-of

> > > life decisions, reform will help to cover these voluntary, private

> > > consultations for those who want help with these personal and

> > > difficult family

> > > decisions.

> > > 4.. Vets' health care is safe and sound: It's a myth that health

> > > insurance

> > > reform will affect veterans' access to the care they get now. To

> the

> > > contrary, the President's budget significantly expands coverage

> > > under the VA,

> > > extending care to 500,000 more veterans who were previously

> > > excluded. The VA

> > > Healthcare system will continue to be available for all eligible

> > > veterans.

> > > 5.. Reform will benefit small business - not burden it: It's a

> myth

> > > that

> > > health insurance reform will hurt small businesses. To the

> contrary,

> > > reform

> > > will ease the burdens on small businesses, provide tax credits to

> > > help them

> > > pay for employee coverage and help level the playing field with

> big

> > > firms

> > > who pay much less to cover their employees on average.

> > > 6.. Your Medicare is safe, and stronger with reform: It's myth

> that

> > > Health

> > > Insurance Reform would be financed by cutting Medicare benefits.

> To

> > > the

> > > contrary, reform will improve the long-term financial health of

> > > Medicare,

> > > ensure better coordination, eliminate waste and unnecessary

> > > subsidies to

> > > insurance companies, and help to close the Medicare " doughnut "

> hole

> > > to make

> > > prescription drugs more affordable for seniors.

> > > 7.. You can keep your own insurance: It's myth that reform will

> > > force you

> > > out of your current insurance plan or force you to change doctors.

> > > To the

> > > contrary, reform will expand your choices, not eliminate them.

> > > 8. No, government will not do anything with your bank account:

> It is

> > > an

> > > absurd myth that government will be in charge of your bank

> accounts.

> > > Health

> > > insurance reform will simplify administration, making it easier

> and

> > > more

> > > convenient for you to pay bills in a method that you choose. Just

> > > like paying

> > > a phone bill or a utility bill, you can pay by traditional

> check, or

> > > by a

> > > direct electronic payment. And forms will be standardized so they

> > > will be

> > > easier to understand. The choice is up to you - and the same rules

> > > of privacy

> > > will apply as they do for all other electronic payments that

> people

> > > make.

> > >

> > >

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Big start!!!! There is plenty more to be added. I do believe in our Country

and Government. I don't always agree with those in Washington, but it's worked

pretty darn good for over 200 years, and there is no country better. There are

countries that do individual things better and smarter, and much of that is

because our companies invested in them in stead of us, but that is another

endless conversation. When we quit dividing our country, take care of our own,

then we will be better for it. Although many would rather see us pump a Trillion

dollars into wars of convenience than a couple of billion in providing health

care to our see and needy. If we don't want health care for them then we should

not be in the health care business. Although I know many are in it for a pay

check. Not everyone in EMS gets low salaries and benefits.

If you don't care about the people that you serve you should not serve, because

that is just self serving as I see many do.

my 2 cents,

Ron

8 ways

> > >

> > > 8 ways reform provides security and stability to those with or

> without

> > > coverage

> > >

> > > 1.. Ends Discrimination for Pre-Existing Conditions: Insurance

> > > companies

> > > will be prohibited from refusing you coverage because of your

> medical

> > > history.

> > > 2.. Ends Exorbitant Out-of-Pocket Expenses, Deductibles or Co-

> Pays:

> > > Insurance companies will have to abide by yearly caps on how much

> > > they can charge

> > > for out-of-pocket expenses.

> > > 3.. Ends Cost-Sharing for Preventive Care: Insurance companies

> must

> > > fully

> > > cover, without charge, regular checkups and tests that help you

> > > prevent

> > > illness, such as mammograms or eye and foot exams for diabetics.

> > > 4.. Ends Dropping of Coverage for Seriously Ill: Insurance

> companies

> > > will

> > > be prohibited from dropping or watering down insurance coverage

> for

> > > those

> > > who become seriously ill.

> > > 5.. Ends Gender Discrimination: Insurance companies will be

> prohibited

> > > from charging you more because of your gender.

> > > 6.. Ends Annual or Lifetime Caps on Coverage: Insurance companies

> > > will be

> > > prevented from placing annual or lifetime caps on the coverage you

> > > receive.

> > > 7.. Extends Coverage for Young Adults: Children would continue

> to be

> > > eligible for family coverage through the age of 26.

> > > 8.. Guarantees Insurance Renewal: Insurance companies will be

> > > required to

> > > renew any policy as long as the policyholder pays their premium in

> > > full.

> > > Insurance companies won't be allowed to refuse renewal because

> > > someone became

> > > sick.

> > >

> > > 8 common myths about health insurance reform

> > >

> > > 1.. Reform will stop " rationing " - not increase it: It's a myth

> that

> > > reform will mean a " government takeover " of health care or lead to

> > > " rationing. "

> > > To the contrary, reform will forbid many forms of rationing that

> are

> > > currently being used by insurance companies.

> > > 2.. We can't afford reform: It's the status quo we can't afford.

> > > It's a

> > > myth that reform will bust the budget. To the contrary, the

> > > President has

> > > identified ways to pay for the vast majority of the up-front costs

> > > by cutting

> > > waste, fraud, and abuse within existing government health

> programs;

> > > ending

> > > big subsidies to insurance companies; and increasing efficiency

> with

> > > such

> > > steps as coordinating care and streamlining paperwork. In the long

> > > term,

> > > reform can help bring down costs that will otherwise lead to a

> > > fiscal crisis.

> > > 3.. Reform would encourage " euthanasia " : It does not. It's a

> > > malicious

> > > myth that reform would encourage or even require euthanasia for

> > > seniors. For

> > > seniors who want to consult with their family and physicians about

> > > end-of

> > > life decisions, reform will help to cover these voluntary, private

> > > consultations for those who want help with these personal and

> > > difficult family

> > > decisions.

> > > 4.. Vets' health care is safe and sound: It's a myth that health

> > > insurance

> > > reform will affect veterans' access to the care they get now. To

> the

> > > contrary, the President's budget significantly expands coverage

> > > under the VA,

> > > extending care to 500,000 more veterans who were previously

> > > excluded. The VA

> > > Healthcare system will continue to be available for all eligible

> > > veterans.

> > > 5.. Reform will benefit small business - not burden it: It's a

> myth

> > > that

> > > health insurance reform will hurt small businesses. To the

> contrary,

> > > reform

> > > will ease the burdens on small businesses, provide tax credits to

> > > help them

> > > pay for employee coverage and help level the playing field with

> big

> > > firms

> > > who pay much less to cover their employees on average.

> > > 6.. Your Medicare is safe, and stronger with reform: It's myth

> that

> > > Health

> > > Insurance Reform would be financed by cutting Medicare benefits.

> To

> > > the

> > > contrary, reform will improve the long-term financial health of

> > > Medicare,

> > > ensure better coordination, eliminate waste and unnecessary

> > > subsidies to

> > > insurance companies, and help to close the Medicare " doughnut "

> hole

> > > to make

> > > prescription drugs more affordable for seniors.

> > > 7.. You can keep your own insurance: It's myth that reform will

> > > force you

> > > out of your current insurance plan or force you to change doctors.

> > > To the

> > > contrary, reform will expand your choices, not eliminate them.

> > > 8. No, government will not do anything with your bank account:

> It is

> > > an

> > > absurd myth that government will be in charge of your bank

> accounts.

> > > Health

> > > insurance reform will simplify administration, making it easier

> and

> > > more

> > > convenient for you to pay bills in a method that you choose. Just

> > > like paying

> > > a phone bill or a utility bill, you can pay by traditional

> check, or

> > > by a

> > > direct electronic payment. And forms will be standardized so they

> > > will be

> > > easier to understand. The choice is up to you - and the same rules

> > > of privacy

> > > will apply as they do for all other electronic payments that

> people

> > > make.

> > >

> > >

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Big start!!!! There is plenty more to be added. I do believe in our Country

and Government. I don't always agree with those in Washington, but it's worked

pretty darn good for over 200 years, and there is no country better. There are

countries that do individual things better and smarter, and much of that is

because our companies invested in them in stead of us, but that is another

endless conversation. When we quit dividing our country, take care of our own,

then we will be better for it. Although many would rather see us pump a Trillion

dollars into wars of convenience than a couple of billion in providing health

care to our see and needy. If we don't want health care for them then we should

not be in the health care business. Although I know many are in it for a pay

check. Not everyone in EMS gets low salaries and benefits.

If you don't care about the people that you serve you should not serve, because

that is just self serving as I see many do.

my 2 cents,

Ron

8 ways

> > >

> > > 8 ways reform provides security and stability to those with or

> without

> > > coverage

> > >

> > > 1.. Ends Discrimination for Pre-Existing Conditions: Insurance

> > > companies

> > > will be prohibited from refusing you coverage because of your

> medical

> > > history.

> > > 2.. Ends Exorbitant Out-of-Pocket Expenses, Deductibles or Co-

> Pays:

> > > Insurance companies will have to abide by yearly caps on how much

> > > they can charge

> > > for out-of-pocket expenses.

> > > 3.. Ends Cost-Sharing for Preventive Care: Insurance companies

> must

> > > fully

> > > cover, without charge, regular checkups and tests that help you

> > > prevent

> > > illness, such as mammograms or eye and foot exams for diabetics.

> > > 4.. Ends Dropping of Coverage for Seriously Ill: Insurance

> companies

> > > will

> > > be prohibited from dropping or watering down insurance coverage

> for

> > > those

> > > who become seriously ill.

> > > 5.. Ends Gender Discrimination: Insurance companies will be

> prohibited

> > > from charging you more because of your gender.

> > > 6.. Ends Annual or Lifetime Caps on Coverage: Insurance companies

> > > will be

> > > prevented from placing annual or lifetime caps on the coverage you

> > > receive.

> > > 7.. Extends Coverage for Young Adults: Children would continue

> to be

> > > eligible for family coverage through the age of 26.

> > > 8.. Guarantees Insurance Renewal: Insurance companies will be

> > > required to

> > > renew any policy as long as the policyholder pays their premium in

> > > full.

> > > Insurance companies won't be allowed to refuse renewal because

> > > someone became

> > > sick.

> > >

> > > 8 common myths about health insurance reform

> > >

> > > 1.. Reform will stop " rationing " - not increase it: It's a myth

> that

> > > reform will mean a " government takeover " of health care or lead to

> > > " rationing. "

> > > To the contrary, reform will forbid many forms of rationing that

> are

> > > currently being used by insurance companies.

> > > 2.. We can't afford reform: It's the status quo we can't afford.

> > > It's a

> > > myth that reform will bust the budget. To the contrary, the

> > > President has

> > > identified ways to pay for the vast majority of the up-front costs

> > > by cutting

> > > waste, fraud, and abuse within existing government health

> programs;

> > > ending

> > > big subsidies to insurance companies; and increasing efficiency

> with

> > > such

> > > steps as coordinating care and streamlining paperwork. In the long

> > > term,

> > > reform can help bring down costs that will otherwise lead to a

> > > fiscal crisis.

> > > 3.. Reform would encourage " euthanasia " : It does not. It's a

> > > malicious

> > > myth that reform would encourage or even require euthanasia for

> > > seniors. For

> > > seniors who want to consult with their family and physicians about

> > > end-of

> > > life decisions, reform will help to cover these voluntary, private

> > > consultations for those who want help with these personal and

> > > difficult family

> > > decisions.

> > > 4.. Vets' health care is safe and sound: It's a myth that health

> > > insurance

> > > reform will affect veterans' access to the care they get now. To

> the

> > > contrary, the President's budget significantly expands coverage

> > > under the VA,

> > > extending care to 500,000 more veterans who were previously

> > > excluded. The VA

> > > Healthcare system will continue to be available for all eligible

> > > veterans.

> > > 5.. Reform will benefit small business - not burden it: It's a

> myth

> > > that

> > > health insurance reform will hurt small businesses. To the

> contrary,

> > > reform

> > > will ease the burdens on small businesses, provide tax credits to

> > > help them

> > > pay for employee coverage and help level the playing field with

> big

> > > firms

> > > who pay much less to cover their employees on average.

> > > 6.. Your Medicare is safe, and stronger with reform: It's myth

> that

> > > Health

> > > Insurance Reform would be financed by cutting Medicare benefits.

> To

> > > the

> > > contrary, reform will improve the long-term financial health of

> > > Medicare,

> > > ensure better coordination, eliminate waste and unnecessary

> > > subsidies to

> > > insurance companies, and help to close the Medicare " doughnut "

> hole

> > > to make

> > > prescription drugs more affordable for seniors.

> > > 7.. You can keep your own insurance: It's myth that reform will

> > > force you

> > > out of your current insurance plan or force you to change doctors.

> > > To the

> > > contrary, reform will expand your choices, not eliminate them.

> > > 8. No, government will not do anything with your bank account:

> It is

> > > an

> > > absurd myth that government will be in charge of your bank

> accounts.

> > > Health

> > > insurance reform will simplify administration, making it easier

> and

> > > more

> > > convenient for you to pay bills in a method that you choose. Just

> > > like paying

> > > a phone bill or a utility bill, you can pay by traditional

> check, or

> > > by a

> > > direct electronic payment. And forms will be standardized so they

> > > will be

> > > easier to understand. The choice is up to you - and the same rules

> > > of privacy

> > > will apply as they do for all other electronic payments that

> people

> > > make.

> > >

> > >

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The bottom line this should not be happening to you. I think you'll find

if out if you haven't already that with the apnea your not going to get as much

if any life insurance. I know several patients that got cancelled, or their life

insurance was cut 50 % or more. That is sad, because they don't give them any

logical excuse other than that is just benefits of their insurance plans.

Earlier someone mentioned the 80s and HMOs. I think there are still some HMOs. A

PPO isn't any better in my opinion.

I've said it before and will say it again. This it a HUGE opportunity to pass

legislation to correct 1,000's of problems, help millions of Americans, and it

will not be perfect. It will need tweaking just as the 1,500 or so bills the

Texas Legislature just passed. Are any of them perfect? Are any EMS bills

passed over the years perfect? I can't count the times we in EMS had to support

imperfect bills just get something started, and try to tweak it later.

Just this session many supported bills to get more government money for their

EMS services. They cry, beg, scream, put their money up for lobbyist for to get

this money, but they will be a hypocrite and say " how dare them try to provide

health care, just give me the money and trust me " , then we get fraud by the

same people. Don't we?

Once again this is not your problem alone, this is a Health Care System problem

that needs fixing, but many want to keep it broken due to fear and no courage to

face the future with change and courage.

Thanks

Ron

8 ways

> > >

> > > 8 ways reform provides security and stability to those with or

> without

> > > coverage

> > >

> > > 1.. Ends Discrimination for Pre-Existing Conditions: Insurance

> > > companies

> > > will be prohibited from refusing you coverage because of your

> medical

> > > history.

> > > 2.. Ends Exorbitant Out-of-Pocket Expenses, Deductibles or Co-

> Pays:

> > > Insurance companies will have to abide by yearly caps on how much

> > > they can charge

> > > for out-of-pocket expenses.

> > > 3.. Ends Cost-Sharing for Preventive Care: Insurance companies

> must

> > > fully

> > > cover, without charge, regular checkups and tests that help you

> > > prevent

> > > illness, such as mammograms or eye and foot exams for diabetics.

> > > 4.. Ends Dropping of Coverage for Seriously Ill: Insurance

> companies

> > > will

> > > be prohibited from dropping or watering down insurance coverage

> for

> > > those

> > > who become seriously ill.

> > > 5.. Ends Gender Discrimination: Insurance companies will be

> prohibited

> > > from charging you more because of your gender.

> > > 6.. Ends Annual or Lifetime Caps on Coverage: Insurance companies

> > > will be

> > > prevented from placing annual or lifetime caps on the coverage you

> > > receive.

> > > 7.. Extends Coverage for Young Adults: Children would continue

> to be

> > > eligible for family coverage through the age of 26.

> > > 8.. Guarantees Insurance Renewal: Insurance companies will be

> > > required to

> > > renew any policy as long as the policyholder pays their premium in

> > > full.

> > > Insurance companies won't be allowed to refuse renewal because

> > > someone became

> > > sick.

> > >

> > > 8 common myths about health insurance reform

> > >

> > > 1.. Reform will stop " rationing " - not increase it: It's a myth

> that

> > > reform will mean a " government takeover " of health care or lead to

> > > " rationing. "

> > > To the contrary, reform will forbid many forms of rationing that

> are

> > > currently being used by insurance companies.

> > > 2.. We can't afford reform: It's the status quo we can't afford.

> > > It's a

> > > myth that reform will bust the budget. To the contrary, the

> > > President has

> > > identified ways to pay for the vast majority of the up-front costs

> > > by cutting

> > > waste, fraud, and abuse within existing government health

> programs;

> > > ending

> > > big subsidies to insurance companies; and increasing efficiency

> with

> > > such

> > > steps as coordinating care and streamlining paperwork. In the long

> > > term,

> > > reform can help bring down costs that will otherwise lead to a

> > > fiscal crisis.

> > > 3.. Reform would encourage " euthanasia " : It does not. It's a

> > > malicious

> > > myth that reform would encourage or even require euthanasia for

> > > seniors. For

> > > seniors who want to consult with their family and physicians about

> > > end-of

> > > life decisions, reform will help to cover these voluntary, private

> > > consultations for those who want help with these personal and

> > > difficult family

> > > decisions.

> > > 4.. Vets' health care is safe and sound: It's a myth that health

> > > insurance

> > > reform will affect veterans' access to the care they get now. To

> the

> > > contrary, the President's budget significantly expands coverage

> > > under the VA,

> > > extending care to 500,000 more veterans who were previously

> > > excluded. The VA

> > > Healthcare system will continue to be available for all eligible

> > > veterans.

> > > 5.. Reform will benefit small business - not burden it: It's a

> myth

> > > that

> > > health insurance reform will hurt small businesses. To the

> contrary,

> > > reform

> > > will ease the burdens on small businesses, provide tax credits to

> > > help them

> > > pay for employee coverage and help level the playing field with

> big

> > > firms

> > > who pay much less to cover their employees on average.

> > > 6.. Your Medicare is safe, and stronger with reform: It's myth

> that

> > > Health

> > > Insurance Reform would be financed by cutting Medicare benefits.

> To

> > > the

> > > contrary, reform will improve the long-term financial health of

> > > Medicare,

> > > ensure better coordination, eliminate waste and unnecessary

> > > subsidies to

> > > insurance companies, and help to close the Medicare " doughnut "

> hole

> > > to make

> > > prescription drugs more affordable for seniors.

> > > 7.. You can keep your own insurance: It's myth that reform will

> > > force you

> > > out of your current insurance plan or force you to change doctors.

> > > To the

> > > contrary, reform will expand your choices, not eliminate them.

> > > 8. No, government will not do anything with your bank account:

> It is

> > > an

> > > absurd myth that government will be in charge of your bank

> accounts.

> > > Health

> > > insurance reform will simplify administration, making it easier

> and

> > > more

> > > convenient for you to pay bills in a method that you choose. Just

> > > like paying

> > > a phone bill or a utility bill, you can pay by traditional

> check, or

> > > by a

> > > direct electronic payment. And forms will be standardized so they

> > > will be

> > > easier to understand. The choice is up to you - and the same rules

> > > of privacy

> > > will apply as they do for all other electronic payments that

> people

> > > make.

> > >

> > >

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The bottom line this should not be happening to you. I think you'll find

if out if you haven't already that with the apnea your not going to get as much

if any life insurance. I know several patients that got cancelled, or their life

insurance was cut 50 % or more. That is sad, because they don't give them any

logical excuse other than that is just benefits of their insurance plans.

Earlier someone mentioned the 80s and HMOs. I think there are still some HMOs. A

PPO isn't any better in my opinion.

I've said it before and will say it again. This it a HUGE opportunity to pass

legislation to correct 1,000's of problems, help millions of Americans, and it

will not be perfect. It will need tweaking just as the 1,500 or so bills the

Texas Legislature just passed. Are any of them perfect? Are any EMS bills

passed over the years perfect? I can't count the times we in EMS had to support

imperfect bills just get something started, and try to tweak it later.

Just this session many supported bills to get more government money for their

EMS services. They cry, beg, scream, put their money up for lobbyist for to get

this money, but they will be a hypocrite and say " how dare them try to provide

health care, just give me the money and trust me " , then we get fraud by the

same people. Don't we?

Once again this is not your problem alone, this is a Health Care System problem

that needs fixing, but many want to keep it broken due to fear and no courage to

face the future with change and courage.

Thanks

Ron

8 ways

> > >

> > > 8 ways reform provides security and stability to those with or

> without

> > > coverage

> > >

> > > 1.. Ends Discrimination for Pre-Existing Conditions: Insurance

> > > companies

> > > will be prohibited from refusing you coverage because of your

> medical

> > > history.

> > > 2.. Ends Exorbitant Out-of-Pocket Expenses, Deductibles or Co-

> Pays:

> > > Insurance companies will have to abide by yearly caps on how much

> > > they can charge

> > > for out-of-pocket expenses.

> > > 3.. Ends Cost-Sharing for Preventive Care: Insurance companies

> must

> > > fully

> > > cover, without charge, regular checkups and tests that help you

> > > prevent

> > > illness, such as mammograms or eye and foot exams for diabetics.

> > > 4.. Ends Dropping of Coverage for Seriously Ill: Insurance

> companies

> > > will

> > > be prohibited from dropping or watering down insurance coverage

> for

> > > those

> > > who become seriously ill.

> > > 5.. Ends Gender Discrimination: Insurance companies will be

> prohibited

> > > from charging you more because of your gender.

> > > 6.. Ends Annual or Lifetime Caps on Coverage: Insurance companies

> > > will be

> > > prevented from placing annual or lifetime caps on the coverage you

> > > receive.

> > > 7.. Extends Coverage for Young Adults: Children would continue

> to be

> > > eligible for family coverage through the age of 26.

> > > 8.. Guarantees Insurance Renewal: Insurance companies will be

> > > required to

> > > renew any policy as long as the policyholder pays their premium in

> > > full.

> > > Insurance companies won't be allowed to refuse renewal because

> > > someone became

> > > sick.

> > >

> > > 8 common myths about health insurance reform

> > >

> > > 1.. Reform will stop " rationing " - not increase it: It's a myth

> that

> > > reform will mean a " government takeover " of health care or lead to

> > > " rationing. "

> > > To the contrary, reform will forbid many forms of rationing that

> are

> > > currently being used by insurance companies.

> > > 2.. We can't afford reform: It's the status quo we can't afford.

> > > It's a

> > > myth that reform will bust the budget. To the contrary, the

> > > President has

> > > identified ways to pay for the vast majority of the up-front costs

> > > by cutting

> > > waste, fraud, and abuse within existing government health

> programs;

> > > ending

> > > big subsidies to insurance companies; and increasing efficiency

> with

> > > such

> > > steps as coordinating care and streamlining paperwork. In the long

> > > term,

> > > reform can help bring down costs that will otherwise lead to a

> > > fiscal crisis.

> > > 3.. Reform would encourage " euthanasia " : It does not. It's a

> > > malicious

> > > myth that reform would encourage or even require euthanasia for

> > > seniors. For

> > > seniors who want to consult with their family and physicians about

> > > end-of

> > > life decisions, reform will help to cover these voluntary, private

> > > consultations for those who want help with these personal and

> > > difficult family

> > > decisions.

> > > 4.. Vets' health care is safe and sound: It's a myth that health

> > > insurance

> > > reform will affect veterans' access to the care they get now. To

> the

> > > contrary, the President's budget significantly expands coverage

> > > under the VA,

> > > extending care to 500,000 more veterans who were previously

> > > excluded. The VA

> > > Healthcare system will continue to be available for all eligible

> > > veterans.

> > > 5.. Reform will benefit small business - not burden it: It's a

> myth

> > > that

> > > health insurance reform will hurt small businesses. To the

> contrary,

> > > reform

> > > will ease the burdens on small businesses, provide tax credits to

> > > help them

> > > pay for employee coverage and help level the playing field with

> big

> > > firms

> > > who pay much less to cover their employees on average.

> > > 6.. Your Medicare is safe, and stronger with reform: It's myth

> that

> > > Health

> > > Insurance Reform would be financed by cutting Medicare benefits.

> To

> > > the

> > > contrary, reform will improve the long-term financial health of

> > > Medicare,

> > > ensure better coordination, eliminate waste and unnecessary

> > > subsidies to

> > > insurance companies, and help to close the Medicare " doughnut "

> hole

> > > to make

> > > prescription drugs more affordable for seniors.

> > > 7.. You can keep your own insurance: It's myth that reform will

> > > force you

> > > out of your current insurance plan or force you to change doctors.

> > > To the

> > > contrary, reform will expand your choices, not eliminate them.

> > > 8. No, government will not do anything with your bank account:

> It is

> > > an

> > > absurd myth that government will be in charge of your bank

> accounts.

> > > Health

> > > insurance reform will simplify administration, making it easier

> and

> > > more

> > > convenient for you to pay bills in a method that you choose. Just

> > > like paying

> > > a phone bill or a utility bill, you can pay by traditional

> check, or

> > > by a

> > > direct electronic payment. And forms will be standardized so they

> > > will be

> > > easier to understand. The choice is up to you - and the same rules

> > > of privacy

> > > will apply as they do for all other electronic payments that

> people

> > > make.

> > >

> > >

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The bottom line this should not be happening to you. I think you'll find

if out if you haven't already that with the apnea your not going to get as much

if any life insurance. I know several patients that got cancelled, or their life

insurance was cut 50 % or more. That is sad, because they don't give them any

logical excuse other than that is just benefits of their insurance plans.

Earlier someone mentioned the 80s and HMOs. I think there are still some HMOs. A

PPO isn't any better in my opinion.

I've said it before and will say it again. This it a HUGE opportunity to pass

legislation to correct 1,000's of problems, help millions of Americans, and it

will not be perfect. It will need tweaking just as the 1,500 or so bills the

Texas Legislature just passed. Are any of them perfect? Are any EMS bills

passed over the years perfect? I can't count the times we in EMS had to support

imperfect bills just get something started, and try to tweak it later.

Just this session many supported bills to get more government money for their

EMS services. They cry, beg, scream, put their money up for lobbyist for to get

this money, but they will be a hypocrite and say " how dare them try to provide

health care, just give me the money and trust me " , then we get fraud by the

same people. Don't we?

Once again this is not your problem alone, this is a Health Care System problem

that needs fixing, but many want to keep it broken due to fear and no courage to

face the future with change and courage.

Thanks

Ron

8 ways

> > >

> > > 8 ways reform provides security and stability to those with or

> without

> > > coverage

> > >

> > > 1.. Ends Discrimination for Pre-Existing Conditions: Insurance

> > > companies

> > > will be prohibited from refusing you coverage because of your

> medical

> > > history.

> > > 2.. Ends Exorbitant Out-of-Pocket Expenses, Deductibles or Co-

> Pays:

> > > Insurance companies will have to abide by yearly caps on how much

> > > they can charge

> > > for out-of-pocket expenses.

> > > 3.. Ends Cost-Sharing for Preventive Care: Insurance companies

> must

> > > fully

> > > cover, without charge, regular checkups and tests that help you

> > > prevent

> > > illness, such as mammograms or eye and foot exams for diabetics.

> > > 4.. Ends Dropping of Coverage for Seriously Ill: Insurance

> companies

> > > will

> > > be prohibited from dropping or watering down insurance coverage

> for

> > > those

> > > who become seriously ill.

> > > 5.. Ends Gender Discrimination: Insurance companies will be

> prohibited

> > > from charging you more because of your gender.

> > > 6.. Ends Annual or Lifetime Caps on Coverage: Insurance companies

> > > will be

> > > prevented from placing annual or lifetime caps on the coverage you

> > > receive.

> > > 7.. Extends Coverage for Young Adults: Children would continue

> to be

> > > eligible for family coverage through the age of 26.

> > > 8.. Guarantees Insurance Renewal: Insurance companies will be

> > > required to

> > > renew any policy as long as the policyholder pays their premium in

> > > full.

> > > Insurance companies won't be allowed to refuse renewal because

> > > someone became

> > > sick.

> > >

> > > 8 common myths about health insurance reform

> > >

> > > 1.. Reform will stop " rationing " - not increase it: It's a myth

> that

> > > reform will mean a " government takeover " of health care or lead to

> > > " rationing. "

> > > To the contrary, reform will forbid many forms of rationing that

> are

> > > currently being used by insurance companies.

> > > 2.. We can't afford reform: It's the status quo we can't afford.

> > > It's a

> > > myth that reform will bust the budget. To the contrary, the

> > > President has

> > > identified ways to pay for the vast majority of the up-front costs

> > > by cutting

> > > waste, fraud, and abuse within existing government health

> programs;

> > > ending

> > > big subsidies to insurance companies; and increasing efficiency

> with

> > > such

> > > steps as coordinating care and streamlining paperwork. In the long

> > > term,

> > > reform can help bring down costs that will otherwise lead to a

> > > fiscal crisis.

> > > 3.. Reform would encourage " euthanasia " : It does not. It's a

> > > malicious

> > > myth that reform would encourage or even require euthanasia for

> > > seniors. For

> > > seniors who want to consult with their family and physicians about

> > > end-of

> > > life decisions, reform will help to cover these voluntary, private

> > > consultations for those who want help with these personal and

> > > difficult family

> > > decisions.

> > > 4.. Vets' health care is safe and sound: It's a myth that health

> > > insurance

> > > reform will affect veterans' access to the care they get now. To

> the

> > > contrary, the President's budget significantly expands coverage

> > > under the VA,

> > > extending care to 500,000 more veterans who were previously

> > > excluded. The VA

> > > Healthcare system will continue to be available for all eligible

> > > veterans.

> > > 5.. Reform will benefit small business - not burden it: It's a

> myth

> > > that

> > > health insurance reform will hurt small businesses. To the

> contrary,

> > > reform

> > > will ease the burdens on small businesses, provide tax credits to

> > > help them

> > > pay for employee coverage and help level the playing field with

> big

> > > firms

> > > who pay much less to cover their employees on average.

> > > 6.. Your Medicare is safe, and stronger with reform: It's myth

> that

> > > Health

> > > Insurance Reform would be financed by cutting Medicare benefits.

> To

> > > the

> > > contrary, reform will improve the long-term financial health of

> > > Medicare,

> > > ensure better coordination, eliminate waste and unnecessary

> > > subsidies to

> > > insurance companies, and help to close the Medicare " doughnut "

> hole

> > > to make

> > > prescription drugs more affordable for seniors.

> > > 7.. You can keep your own insurance: It's myth that reform will

> > > force you

> > > out of your current insurance plan or force you to change doctors.

> > > To the

> > > contrary, reform will expand your choices, not eliminate them.

> > > 8. No, government will not do anything with your bank account:

> It is

> > > an

> > > absurd myth that government will be in charge of your bank

> accounts.

> > > Health

> > > insurance reform will simplify administration, making it easier

> and

> > > more

> > > convenient for you to pay bills in a method that you choose. Just

> > > like paying

> > > a phone bill or a utility bill, you can pay by traditional

> check, or

> > > by a

> > > direct electronic payment. And forms will be standardized so they

> > > will be

> > > easier to understand. The choice is up to you - and the same rules

> > > of privacy

> > > will apply as they do for all other electronic payments that

> people

> > > make.

> > >

> > >

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I too believe in this country and would stand up next to anyone on

this list to protect it but like Ron said protecting it includes

protecting our own, and if changing one or two ideals to do it is what

needs to be done to do it then so be it! This country has come

together before WWII, 9/11, the new deal, etc. something needs to

bring us together again what will it be?

-Chris

> Big start!!!! There is plenty more to be added. I do believe in our

> Country and Government. I don't always agree with those in

> Washington, but it's worked pretty darn good for over 200 years, and

> there is no country better. There are countries that do individual

> things better and smarter, and much of that is because our companies

> invested in them in stead of us, but that is another endless

> conversation. When we quit dividing our country, take care of our

> own, then we will be better for it. Although many would rather see

> us pump a Trillion dollars into wars of convenience than a couple of

> billion in providing health care to our see and needy. If we don't

> want health care for them then we should not be in the health care

> business. Although I know many are in it for a pay check. Not

> everyone in EMS gets low salaries and benefits.

> If you don't care about the people that you serve you should not

> serve, because that is just self serving as I see many do.

> my 2 cents,

> Ron

> 8 ways

> > > >

> > > > 8 ways reform provides security and stability to those with or

> > without

> > > > coverage

> > > >

> > > > 1.. Ends Discrimination for Pre-Existing Conditions: Insurance

> > > > companies

> > > > will be prohibited from refusing you coverage because of your

> > medical

> > > > history.

> > > > 2.. Ends Exorbitant Out-of-Pocket Expenses, Deductibles or Co-

> > Pays:

> > > > Insurance companies will have to abide by yearly caps on how

> much

> > > > they can charge

> > > > for out-of-pocket expenses.

> > > > 3.. Ends Cost-Sharing for Preventive Care: Insurance companies

> > must

> > > > fully

> > > > cover, without charge, regular checkups and tests that help you

> > > > prevent

> > > > illness, such as mammograms or eye and foot exams for diabetics.

> > > > 4.. Ends Dropping of Coverage for Seriously Ill: Insurance

> > companies

> > > > will

> > > > be prohibited from dropping or watering down insurance coverage

> > for

> > > > those

> > > > who become seriously ill.

> > > > 5.. Ends Gender Discrimination: Insurance companies will be

> > prohibited

> > > > from charging you more because of your gender.

> > > > 6.. Ends Annual or Lifetime Caps on Coverage: Insurance

> companies

> > > > will be

> > > > prevented from placing annual or lifetime caps on the coverage

> you

> > > > receive.

> > > > 7.. Extends Coverage for Young Adults: Children would continue

> > to be

> > > > eligible for family coverage through the age of 26.

> > > > 8.. Guarantees Insurance Renewal: Insurance companies will be

> > > > required to

> > > > renew any policy as long as the policyholder pays their

> premium in

> > > > full.

> > > > Insurance companies won't be allowed to refuse renewal because

> > > > someone became

> > > > sick.

> > > >

> > > > 8 common myths about health insurance reform

> > > >

> > > > 1.. Reform will stop " rationing " - not increase it: It's a myth

> > that

> > > > reform will mean a " government takeover " of health care or

> lead to

> > > > " rationing. "

> > > > To the contrary, reform will forbid many forms of rationing that

> > are

> > > > currently being used by insurance companies.

> > > > 2.. We can't afford reform: It's the status quo we can't afford.

> > > > It's a

> > > > myth that reform will bust the budget. To the contrary, the

> > > > President has

> > > > identified ways to pay for the vast majority of the up-front

> costs

> > > > by cutting

> > > > waste, fraud, and abuse within existing government health

> > programs;

> > > > ending

> > > > big subsidies to insurance companies; and increasing efficiency

> > with

> > > > such

> > > > steps as coordinating care and streamlining paperwork. In the

> long

> > > > term,

> > > > reform can help bring down costs that will otherwise lead to a

> > > > fiscal crisis.

> > > > 3.. Reform would encourage " euthanasia " : It does not. It's a

> > > > malicious

> > > > myth that reform would encourage or even require euthanasia for

> > > > seniors. For

> > > > seniors who want to consult with their family and physicians

> about

> > > > end-of

> > > > life decisions, reform will help to cover these voluntary,

> private

> > > > consultations for those who want help with these personal and

> > > > difficult family

> > > > decisions.

> > > > 4.. Vets' health care is safe and sound: It's a myth that health

> > > > insurance

> > > > reform will affect veterans' access to the care they get now. To

> > the

> > > > contrary, the President's budget significantly expands coverage

> > > > under the VA,

> > > > extending care to 500,000 more veterans who were previously

> > > > excluded. The VA

> > > > Healthcare system will continue to be available for all eligible

> > > > veterans.

> > > > 5.. Reform will benefit small business - not burden it: It's a

> > myth

> > > > that

> > > > health insurance reform will hurt small businesses. To the

> > contrary,

> > > > reform

> > > > will ease the burdens on small businesses, provide tax credits

> to

> > > > help them

> > > > pay for employee coverage and help level the playing field with

> > big

> > > > firms

> > > > who pay much less to cover their employees on average.

> > > > 6.. Your Medicare is safe, and stronger with reform: It's myth

> > that

> > > > Health

> > > > Insurance Reform would be financed by cutting Medicare benefits.

> > To

> > > > the

> > > > contrary, reform will improve the long-term financial health of

> > > > Medicare,

> > > > ensure better coordination, eliminate waste and unnecessary

> > > > subsidies to

> > > > insurance companies, and help to close the Medicare " doughnut "

> > hole

> > > > to make

> > > > prescription drugs more affordable for seniors.

> > > > 7.. You can keep your own insurance: It's myth that reform will

> > > > force you

> > > > out of your current insurance plan or force you to change

> doctors.

> > > > To the

> > > > contrary, reform will expand your choices, not eliminate them.

> > > > 8. No, government will not do anything with your bank account:

> > It is

> > > > an

> > > > absurd myth that government will be in charge of your bank

> > accounts.

> > > > Health

> > > > insurance reform will simplify administration, making it easier

> > and

> > > > more

> > > > convenient for you to pay bills in a method that you choose.

> Just

> > > > like paying

> > > > a phone bill or a utility bill, you can pay by traditional

> > check, or

> > > > by a

> > > > direct electronic payment. And forms will be standardized so

> they

> > > > will be

> > > > easier to understand. The choice is up to you - and the same

> rules

> > > > of privacy

> > > > will apply as they do for all other electronic payments that

> > people

> > > > make.

> > > >

> > > >

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I too believe in this country and would stand up next to anyone on

this list to protect it but like Ron said protecting it includes

protecting our own, and if changing one or two ideals to do it is what

needs to be done to do it then so be it! This country has come

together before WWII, 9/11, the new deal, etc. something needs to

bring us together again what will it be?

-Chris

> Big start!!!! There is plenty more to be added. I do believe in our

> Country and Government. I don't always agree with those in

> Washington, but it's worked pretty darn good for over 200 years, and

> there is no country better. There are countries that do individual

> things better and smarter, and much of that is because our companies

> invested in them in stead of us, but that is another endless

> conversation. When we quit dividing our country, take care of our

> own, then we will be better for it. Although many would rather see

> us pump a Trillion dollars into wars of convenience than a couple of

> billion in providing health care to our see and needy. If we don't

> want health care for them then we should not be in the health care

> business. Although I know many are in it for a pay check. Not

> everyone in EMS gets low salaries and benefits.

> If you don't care about the people that you serve you should not

> serve, because that is just self serving as I see many do.

> my 2 cents,

> Ron

> 8 ways

> > > >

> > > > 8 ways reform provides security and stability to those with or

> > without

> > > > coverage

> > > >

> > > > 1.. Ends Discrimination for Pre-Existing Conditions: Insurance

> > > > companies

> > > > will be prohibited from refusing you coverage because of your

> > medical

> > > > history.

> > > > 2.. Ends Exorbitant Out-of-Pocket Expenses, Deductibles or Co-

> > Pays:

> > > > Insurance companies will have to abide by yearly caps on how

> much

> > > > they can charge

> > > > for out-of-pocket expenses.

> > > > 3.. Ends Cost-Sharing for Preventive Care: Insurance companies

> > must

> > > > fully

> > > > cover, without charge, regular checkups and tests that help you

> > > > prevent

> > > > illness, such as mammograms or eye and foot exams for diabetics.

> > > > 4.. Ends Dropping of Coverage for Seriously Ill: Insurance

> > companies

> > > > will

> > > > be prohibited from dropping or watering down insurance coverage

> > for

> > > > those

> > > > who become seriously ill.

> > > > 5.. Ends Gender Discrimination: Insurance companies will be

> > prohibited

> > > > from charging you more because of your gender.

> > > > 6.. Ends Annual or Lifetime Caps on Coverage: Insurance

> companies

> > > > will be

> > > > prevented from placing annual or lifetime caps on the coverage

> you

> > > > receive.

> > > > 7.. Extends Coverage for Young Adults: Children would continue

> > to be

> > > > eligible for family coverage through the age of 26.

> > > > 8.. Guarantees Insurance Renewal: Insurance companies will be

> > > > required to

> > > > renew any policy as long as the policyholder pays their

> premium in

> > > > full.

> > > > Insurance companies won't be allowed to refuse renewal because

> > > > someone became

> > > > sick.

> > > >

> > > > 8 common myths about health insurance reform

> > > >

> > > > 1.. Reform will stop " rationing " - not increase it: It's a myth

> > that

> > > > reform will mean a " government takeover " of health care or

> lead to

> > > > " rationing. "

> > > > To the contrary, reform will forbid many forms of rationing that

> > are

> > > > currently being used by insurance companies.

> > > > 2.. We can't afford reform: It's the status quo we can't afford.

> > > > It's a

> > > > myth that reform will bust the budget. To the contrary, the

> > > > President has

> > > > identified ways to pay for the vast majority of the up-front

> costs

> > > > by cutting

> > > > waste, fraud, and abuse within existing government health

> > programs;

> > > > ending

> > > > big subsidies to insurance companies; and increasing efficiency

> > with

> > > > such

> > > > steps as coordinating care and streamlining paperwork. In the

> long

> > > > term,

> > > > reform can help bring down costs that will otherwise lead to a

> > > > fiscal crisis.

> > > > 3.. Reform would encourage " euthanasia " : It does not. It's a

> > > > malicious

> > > > myth that reform would encourage or even require euthanasia for

> > > > seniors. For

> > > > seniors who want to consult with their family and physicians

> about

> > > > end-of

> > > > life decisions, reform will help to cover these voluntary,

> private

> > > > consultations for those who want help with these personal and

> > > > difficult family

> > > > decisions.

> > > > 4.. Vets' health care is safe and sound: It's a myth that health

> > > > insurance

> > > > reform will affect veterans' access to the care they get now. To

> > the

> > > > contrary, the President's budget significantly expands coverage

> > > > under the VA,

> > > > extending care to 500,000 more veterans who were previously

> > > > excluded. The VA

> > > > Healthcare system will continue to be available for all eligible

> > > > veterans.

> > > > 5.. Reform will benefit small business - not burden it: It's a

> > myth

> > > > that

> > > > health insurance reform will hurt small businesses. To the

> > contrary,

> > > > reform

> > > > will ease the burdens on small businesses, provide tax credits

> to

> > > > help them

> > > > pay for employee coverage and help level the playing field with

> > big

> > > > firms

> > > > who pay much less to cover their employees on average.

> > > > 6.. Your Medicare is safe, and stronger with reform: It's myth

> > that

> > > > Health

> > > > Insurance Reform would be financed by cutting Medicare benefits.

> > To

> > > > the

> > > > contrary, reform will improve the long-term financial health of

> > > > Medicare,

> > > > ensure better coordination, eliminate waste and unnecessary

> > > > subsidies to

> > > > insurance companies, and help to close the Medicare " doughnut "

> > hole

> > > > to make

> > > > prescription drugs more affordable for seniors.

> > > > 7.. You can keep your own insurance: It's myth that reform will

> > > > force you

> > > > out of your current insurance plan or force you to change

> doctors.

> > > > To the

> > > > contrary, reform will expand your choices, not eliminate them.

> > > > 8. No, government will not do anything with your bank account:

> > It is

> > > > an

> > > > absurd myth that government will be in charge of your bank

> > accounts.

> > > > Health

> > > > insurance reform will simplify administration, making it easier

> > and

> > > > more

> > > > convenient for you to pay bills in a method that you choose.

> Just

> > > > like paying

> > > > a phone bill or a utility bill, you can pay by traditional

> > check, or

> > > > by a

> > > > direct electronic payment. And forms will be standardized so

> they

> > > > will be

> > > > easier to understand. The choice is up to you - and the same

> rules

> > > > of privacy

> > > > will apply as they do for all other electronic payments that

> > people

> > > > make.

> > > >

> > > >

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I too believe in this country and would stand up next to anyone on

this list to protect it but like Ron said protecting it includes

protecting our own, and if changing one or two ideals to do it is what

needs to be done to do it then so be it! This country has come

together before WWII, 9/11, the new deal, etc. something needs to

bring us together again what will it be?

-Chris

> Big start!!!! There is plenty more to be added. I do believe in our

> Country and Government. I don't always agree with those in

> Washington, but it's worked pretty darn good for over 200 years, and

> there is no country better. There are countries that do individual

> things better and smarter, and much of that is because our companies

> invested in them in stead of us, but that is another endless

> conversation. When we quit dividing our country, take care of our

> own, then we will be better for it. Although many would rather see

> us pump a Trillion dollars into wars of convenience than a couple of

> billion in providing health care to our see and needy. If we don't

> want health care for them then we should not be in the health care

> business. Although I know many are in it for a pay check. Not

> everyone in EMS gets low salaries and benefits.

> If you don't care about the people that you serve you should not

> serve, because that is just self serving as I see many do.

> my 2 cents,

> Ron

> 8 ways

> > > >

> > > > 8 ways reform provides security and stability to those with or

> > without

> > > > coverage

> > > >

> > > > 1.. Ends Discrimination for Pre-Existing Conditions: Insurance

> > > > companies

> > > > will be prohibited from refusing you coverage because of your

> > medical

> > > > history.

> > > > 2.. Ends Exorbitant Out-of-Pocket Expenses, Deductibles or Co-

> > Pays:

> > > > Insurance companies will have to abide by yearly caps on how

> much

> > > > they can charge

> > > > for out-of-pocket expenses.

> > > > 3.. Ends Cost-Sharing for Preventive Care: Insurance companies

> > must

> > > > fully

> > > > cover, without charge, regular checkups and tests that help you

> > > > prevent

> > > > illness, such as mammograms or eye and foot exams for diabetics.

> > > > 4.. Ends Dropping of Coverage for Seriously Ill: Insurance

> > companies

> > > > will

> > > > be prohibited from dropping or watering down insurance coverage

> > for

> > > > those

> > > > who become seriously ill.

> > > > 5.. Ends Gender Discrimination: Insurance companies will be

> > prohibited

> > > > from charging you more because of your gender.

> > > > 6.. Ends Annual or Lifetime Caps on Coverage: Insurance

> companies

> > > > will be

> > > > prevented from placing annual or lifetime caps on the coverage

> you

> > > > receive.

> > > > 7.. Extends Coverage for Young Adults: Children would continue

> > to be

> > > > eligible for family coverage through the age of 26.

> > > > 8.. Guarantees Insurance Renewal: Insurance companies will be

> > > > required to

> > > > renew any policy as long as the policyholder pays their

> premium in

> > > > full.

> > > > Insurance companies won't be allowed to refuse renewal because

> > > > someone became

> > > > sick.

> > > >

> > > > 8 common myths about health insurance reform

> > > >

> > > > 1.. Reform will stop " rationing " - not increase it: It's a myth

> > that

> > > > reform will mean a " government takeover " of health care or

> lead to

> > > > " rationing. "

> > > > To the contrary, reform will forbid many forms of rationing that

> > are

> > > > currently being used by insurance companies.

> > > > 2.. We can't afford reform: It's the status quo we can't afford.

> > > > It's a

> > > > myth that reform will bust the budget. To the contrary, the

> > > > President has

> > > > identified ways to pay for the vast majority of the up-front

> costs

> > > > by cutting

> > > > waste, fraud, and abuse within existing government health

> > programs;

> > > > ending

> > > > big subsidies to insurance companies; and increasing efficiency

> > with

> > > > such

> > > > steps as coordinating care and streamlining paperwork. In the

> long

> > > > term,

> > > > reform can help bring down costs that will otherwise lead to a

> > > > fiscal crisis.

> > > > 3.. Reform would encourage " euthanasia " : It does not. It's a

> > > > malicious

> > > > myth that reform would encourage or even require euthanasia for

> > > > seniors. For

> > > > seniors who want to consult with their family and physicians

> about

> > > > end-of

> > > > life decisions, reform will help to cover these voluntary,

> private

> > > > consultations for those who want help with these personal and

> > > > difficult family

> > > > decisions.

> > > > 4.. Vets' health care is safe and sound: It's a myth that health

> > > > insurance

> > > > reform will affect veterans' access to the care they get now. To

> > the

> > > > contrary, the President's budget significantly expands coverage

> > > > under the VA,

> > > > extending care to 500,000 more veterans who were previously

> > > > excluded. The VA

> > > > Healthcare system will continue to be available for all eligible

> > > > veterans.

> > > > 5.. Reform will benefit small business - not burden it: It's a

> > myth

> > > > that

> > > > health insurance reform will hurt small businesses. To the

> > contrary,

> > > > reform

> > > > will ease the burdens on small businesses, provide tax credits

> to

> > > > help them

> > > > pay for employee coverage and help level the playing field with

> > big

> > > > firms

> > > > who pay much less to cover their employees on average.

> > > > 6.. Your Medicare is safe, and stronger with reform: It's myth

> > that

> > > > Health

> > > > Insurance Reform would be financed by cutting Medicare benefits.

> > To

> > > > the

> > > > contrary, reform will improve the long-term financial health of

> > > > Medicare,

> > > > ensure better coordination, eliminate waste and unnecessary

> > > > subsidies to

> > > > insurance companies, and help to close the Medicare " doughnut "

> > hole

> > > > to make

> > > > prescription drugs more affordable for seniors.

> > > > 7.. You can keep your own insurance: It's myth that reform will

> > > > force you

> > > > out of your current insurance plan or force you to change

> doctors.

> > > > To the

> > > > contrary, reform will expand your choices, not eliminate them.

> > > > 8. No, government will not do anything with your bank account:

> > It is

> > > > an

> > > > absurd myth that government will be in charge of your bank

> > accounts.

> > > > Health

> > > > insurance reform will simplify administration, making it easier

> > and

> > > > more

> > > > convenient for you to pay bills in a method that you choose.

> Just

> > > > like paying

> > > > a phone bill or a utility bill, you can pay by traditional

> > check, or

> > > > by a

> > > > direct electronic payment. And forms will be standardized so

> they

> > > > will be

> > > > easier to understand. The choice is up to you - and the same

> rules

> > > > of privacy

> > > > will apply as they do for all other electronic payments that

> > people

> > > > make.

> > > >

> > > >

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Find the section of?the Constitution where it says the US Government can provide

Medicare or Medicaid and tax all of us to make it happen.? Not only do we have

to have the Constitution, we have to have a populace that knows what it says and

will stand up and make some noise when it is being violated.? That is a problem

we have had in our country for a long time.? BTW, that is one thing that excites

me about all the activity this August.? At least people are getting involved in

their government.

Dudley

Re: Health Care Reform Facts for the Educate Person

Ron I think you have hit the nail on the head people here the term

" socialized medicine " and they have fears of the old communist days

where everyone answers to the supreme leader that controls everything

by force but we are lucky here we can stand up and tell our leaders no

if we don't like what they are doing the constitution assures that.

-Chris

Sorry for the spelling and punctuation this was sent from my iPhone!

On Aug 15, 2009, at 0:03, Ron Haussecker haussecker87@...>

wrote:

> The word " Socialism " is just a word that was used by folks to scare

> others about anything this new President is trying to do. If we deal

> with is as Health Care Reform then we and make our Country strong. I

> think the last numbers I saw was Texas is 48 to 49th in providing

> health care for our children better know as CHIPS. I'm ashamed we

> will let our young children like in the streets and die due to

> politics, and won't stand by and be silent about killing our

> children in Texas so that folks and get elected. If we elected folks

> to kill our fellow Texans, then we need a head check. I thought

> Texans Stood up for fellow Texans, but maybe those days passed me by

> years ago.

> Keep the great comments and thoughts coming to keep us thinking and

> thanks for all the thought and time you put in writing the post.

> Ron

> 8 ways

> >

> > 8 ways reform provides security and stability to those with or

> without

> > coverage

> >

> > 1.. Ends Discrimination for Pre-Existing Conditions: Insurance

> > companies

> > will be prohibited from refusing you coverage because of your

> medical

> > history.

> > 2.. Ends Exorbitant Out-of-Pocket Expenses, Deductibles or Co-Pays:

> > Insurance companies will have to abide by yearly caps on how much

> > they can charge

> > for out-of-pocket expenses.

> > 3.. Ends Cost-Sharing for Preventive Care: Insurance companies must

> > fully

> > cover, without charge, regular checkups and tests that help you

> > prevent

> > illness, such as mammograms or eye and foot exams for diabetics.

> > 4.. Ends Dropping of Coverage for Seriously Ill: Insurance companies

> > will

> > be prohibited from dropping or watering down insurance coverage for

> > those

> > who become seriously ill.

> > 5.. Ends Gender Discrimination: Insurance companies will be

> prohibited

> > from charging you more because of your gender.

> > 6.. Ends Annual or Lifetime Caps on Coverage: Insurance companies

> > will be

> > prevented from placing annual or lifetime caps on the coverage you

> > receive.

> > 7.. Extends Coverage for Young Adults: Children would continue to be

> > eligible for family coverage through the age of 26.

> > 8.. Guarantees Insurance Renewal: Insurance companies will be

> > required to

> > renew any policy as long as the policyholder pays their premium in

> > full.

> > Insurance companies won't be allowed to refuse renewal because

> > someone became

> > sick.

> >

> > 8 common myths about health insurance reform

> >

> > 1.. Reform will stop " rationing " - not increase it: It's a myth that

> > reform will mean a " government takeover " of health care or lead to

> > " rationing. "

> > To the contrary, reform will forbid many forms of rationing that are

> > currently being used by insurance companies.

> > 2.. We can't afford reform: It's the status quo we can't afford.

> > It's a

> > myth that reform will bust the budget. To the contrary, the

> > President has

> > identified ways to pay for the vast majority of the up-front costs

> > by cutting

> > waste, fraud, and abuse within existing government health programs;

> > ending

> > big subsidies to insurance companies; and increasing efficiency with

> > such

> > steps as coordinating care and streamlining paperwork. In the long

> > term,

> > reform can help bring down costs that will otherwise lead to a

> > fiscal crisis.

> > 3.. Reform would encourage " euthanasia " : It does not. It's a

> > malicious

> > myth that reform would encourage or even require euthanasia for

> > seniors. For

> > seniors who want to consult with their family and physicians about

> > end-of

> > life decisions, reform will help to cover these voluntary, private

> > consultations for those who want help with these personal and

> > difficult family

> > decisions.

> > 4.. Vets' health care is safe and sound: It's a myth that health

> > insurance

> > reform will affect veterans' access to the care they get now. To the

> > contrary, the President's budget significantly expands coverage

> > under the VA,

> > extending care to 500,000 more veterans who were previously

> > excluded. The VA

> > Healthcare system will continue to be available for all eligible

> > veterans.

> > 5.. Reform will benefit small business - not burden it: It's a myth

> > that

> > health insurance reform will hurt small businesses. To the contrary,

> > reform

> > will ease the burdens on small businesses, provide tax credits to

> > help them

> > pay for employee coverage and help level the playing field with big

> > firms

> > who pay much less to cover their employees on average.

> > 6.. Your Medicare is safe, and stronger with reform: It's myth that

> > Health

> > Insurance Reform would be financed by cutting Medicare benefits. To

> > the

> > contrary, reform will improve the long-term financial health of

> > Medicare,

> > ensure better coordination, eliminate waste and unnecessary

> > subsidies to

> > insurance companies, and help to close the Medicare " doughnut " hole

> > to make

> > prescription drugs more affordable for seniors.

> > 7.. You can keep your own insurance: It's myth that reform will

> > force you

> > out of your current insurance plan or force you to change doctors.

> > To the

> > contrary, reform will expand your choices, not eliminate them.

> > 8. No, government will not do anything with your bank account: It is

> > an

> > absurd myth that government will be in charge of your bank accounts.

> > Health

> > insurance reform will simplify administration, making it easier and

> > more

> > convenient for you to pay bills in a method that you choose. Just

> > like paying

> > a phone bill or a utility bill, you can pay by traditional check, or

> > by a

> > direct electronic payment. And forms will be standardized so they

> > will be

> > easier to understand. The choice is up to you - and the same rules

> > of privacy

> > will apply as they do for all other electronic payments that people

> > make.

> >

> >

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Easy there Ron,

If the Federal Government didn't forcibly take 30+% of my money without my

permission, I would be a lot more likely to give much more of my earnings to

charities of my choice.? I already give 10+% to my church...if it was up to me

where my money went...I would certainly be doing a lot more than I already do.

Dudley

Re: Health Care Reform Facts for the Educate Person

I can tell your one of the proud Texans that we rank 48th or 49th for Child

Care. Why don't we put a sign up at the state line saying this and we can be

real proud, but the state line isn't between Tyler and Abilene. You couldn't see

it could you? So I'll take the sarcasm in stride while children are in homes and

on the street homeless and sick, but I'm also pretty sure you didn't stop at a

homeless shelter to volunteer to even take a blood pressure for one of them or

look at the ribs sticking out from illness and hunger. You can make fun about,

or join those of us who LOVE children and WON " T stand by can settle to be 48 or

49th that your seem to be so proud of. I guess you just assume the child

predators can protect them also. I can really see you care about children " NOT " .

Ron

8 ways

>

> 8 ways reform provides security and stability to those with or without

> coverage

>

> 1.. Ends Discrimination for Pre-Existing Conditions: Insurance

> companies

> will be prohibited from refusing you coverage because of your medical

> history.

> 2.. Ends Exorbitant Out-of-Pocket Expenses, Deductibles or Co-Pays:

> Insurance companies will have to abide by yearly caps on how much

> they can charge

> for out-of-pocket expenses.

> 3.. Ends Cost-Sharing for Preventive Care: Insurance companies must

> fully

> cover, without charge, regular checkups and tests that help you

> prevent

> illness, such as mammograms or eye and foot exams for diabetics.

> 4.. Ends Dropping of Coverage for Seriously Ill: Insurance companies

> will

> be prohibited from dropping or watering down insurance coverage for

> those

> who become seriously ill.

> 5.. Ends Gender Discrimination: Insurance companies will be prohibited

> from charging you more because of your gender.

> 6.. Ends Annual or Lifetime Caps on Coverage: Insurance companies

> will be

> prevented from placing annual or lifetime caps on the coverage you

> receive.

> 7.. Extends Coverage for Young Adults: Children would continue to be

> eligible for family coverage through the age of 26.

> 8.. Guarantees Insurance Renewal: Insurance companies will be

> required to

> renew any policy as long as the policyholder pays their premium in

> full.

> Insurance companies won't be allowed to refuse renewal because

> someone became

> sick.

>

> 8 common myths about health insurance reform

>

> 1.. Reform will stop " rationing " - not increase it: It's a myth that

> reform will mean a " government takeover " of health care or lead to

> " rationing. "

> To the contrary, reform will forbid many forms of rationing that are

> currently being used by insurance companies.

> 2.. We can't afford reform: It's the status quo we can't afford.

> It's a

> myth that reform will bust the budget. To the contrary, the

> President has

> identified ways to pay for the vast majority of the up-front costs

> by cutting

> waste, fraud, and abuse within existing government health programs;

> ending

> big subsidies to insurance companies; and increasing efficiency with

> such

> steps as coordinating care and streamlining paperwork. In the long

> term,

> reform can help bring down costs that will otherwise lead to a

> fiscal crisis.

> 3.. Reform would encourage " euthanasia " : It does not. It's a

> malicious

> myth that reform would encourage or even require euthanasia for

> seniors. For

> seniors who want to consult with their family and physicians about

> end-of

> life decisions, reform will help to cover these voluntary, private

> consultations for those who want help with these personal and

> difficult family

> decisions.

> 4.. Vets' health care is safe and sound: It's a myth that health

> insurance

> reform will affect veterans' access to the care they get now. To the

> contrary, the President's budget significantly expands coverage

> under the VA,

> extending care to 500,000 more veterans who were previously

> excluded. The VA

> Healthcare system will continue to be available for all eligible

> veterans.

> 5.. Reform will benefit small business - not burden it: It's a myth

> that

> health insurance reform will hurt small businesses. To the contrary,

> reform

> will ease the burdens on small businesses, provide tax credits to

> help them

> pay for employee coverage and help level the playing field with big

> firms

> who pay much less to cover their employees on average.

> 6.. Your Medicare is safe, and stronger with reform: It's myth that

> Health

> Insurance Reform would be financed by cutting Medicare benefits. To

> the

> contrary, reform will improve the long-term financial health of

> Medicare,

> ensure better coordination, eliminate waste and unnecessary

> subsidies to

> insurance companies, and help to close the Medicare " doughnut " hole

> to make

> prescription drugs more affordable for seniors.

> 7.. You can keep your own insurance: It's myth that reform will

> force you

> out of your current insurance plan or force you to change doctors.

> To the

> contrary, reform will expand your choices, not eliminate them.

> 8. No, government will not do anything with your bank account: It is

> an

> absurd myth that government will be in charge of your bank accounts.

> Health

> insurance reform will simplify administration, making it easier and

> more

> convenient for you to pay bills in a method that you choose. Just

> like paying

> a phone bill or a utility bill, you can pay by traditional check, or

> by a

> direct electronic payment. And forms will be standardized so they

> will be

> easier to understand. The choice is up to you - and the same rules

> of privacy

> will apply as they do for all other electronic payments that people

> make.

>

>

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Both my employer and myself pay for my health insurance.? My employer pays about

$192 a pay period and I pay about $50 a pay period (due to some choices I made

about what type of coverage I wanted).?

Why?

Dudley

Re: Health Care Reform Facts for the Educate Person

Who pays for your health insurance and what does it cost?

Ron

8 ways

> >

> > 8 ways reform provides security and stability to those with or without

> > coverage

> >

> > 1.. Ends Discrimination for Pre-Existing Conditions: Insurance

> > companies

> > will be prohibited from refusing you coverage because of your medical

> > history.

> > 2.. Ends Exorbitant Out-of-Pocket Expenses, Deductibles or Co-Pays:

> > Insurance companies will have to abide by yearly caps on how much

> > they can charge

> > for out-of-pocket expenses.

> > 3.. Ends Cost-Sharing for Preventive Care: Insurance companies must

> > fully

> > cover, without charge, regular checkups and tests that help you

> > prevent

> > illness, such as mammograms or eye and foot exams for diabetics.

> > 4.. Ends Dropping of Coverage for Seriously Ill: Insurance companies

> > will

> > be prohibited from dropping or watering down insurance coverage for

> > those

> > who become seriously ill.

> > 5.. Ends Gender Discrimination: Insurance companies will be prohibited

> > from charging you more because of your gender.

> > 6.. Ends Annual or Lifetime Caps on Coverage: Insurance companies

> > will be

> > prevented from placing annual or lifetime caps on the coverage you

> > receive.

> > 7.. Extends Coverage for Young Adults: Children would continue to be

> > eligible for family coverage through the age of 26.

> > 8.. Guarantees Insurance Renewal: Insurance companies will be

> > required to

> > renew any policy as long as the policyholder pays their premium in

> > full.

> > Insurance companies won't be allowed to refuse renewal because

> > someone became

> > sick.

> >

> > 8 common myths about health insurance reform

> >

> > 1.. Reform will stop " rationing " - not increase it: It's a myth that

> > reform will mean a " government takeover " of health care or lead to

> > " rationing. "

> > To the contrary, reform will forbid many forms of rationing that are

> > currently being used by insurance companies.

> > 2.. We can't afford reform: It's the status quo we can't afford.

> > It's a

> > myth that reform will bust the budget. To the contrary, the

> > President has

> > identified ways to pay for the vast majority of the up-front costs

> > by cutting

> > waste, fraud, and abuse within existing government health programs;

> > ending

> > big subsidies to insurance companies; and increasing efficiency with

> > such

> > steps as coordinating care and streamlining paperwork. In the long

> > term,

> > reform can help bring down costs that will otherwise lead to a

> > fiscal crisis.

> > 3.. Reform would encourage " euthanasia " : It does not. It's a

> > malicious

> > myth that reform would encourage or even require euthanasia for

> > seniors. For

> > seniors who want to consult with their family and physicians about

> > end-of

> > life decisions, reform will help to cover these voluntary, private

> > consultations for those who want help with these personal and

> > difficult family

> > decisions.

> > 4.. Vets' health care is safe and sound: It's a myth that health

> > insurance

> > reform will affect veterans' access to the care they get now. To the

> > contrary, the President's budget significantly expands coverage

> > under the VA,

> > extending care to 500,000 more veterans who were previously

> > excluded. The VA

> > Healthcare system will continue to be available for all eligible

> > veterans.

> > 5.. Reform will benefit small business - not burden it: It's a myth

> > that

> > health insurance reform will hurt small businesses. To the contrary,

> > reform

> > will ease the burdens on small businesses, provide tax credits to

> > help them

> > pay for employee coverage and help level the playing field with big

> > firms

> > who pay much less to cover their employees on average.

> > 6.. Your Medicare is safe, and stronger with reform: It's myth that

> > Health

> > Insurance Reform would be financed by cutting Medicare benefits. To

> > the

> > contrary, reform will improve the long-term financial health of

> > Medicare,

> > ensure better coordination, eliminate waste and unnecessary

> > subsidies to

> > insurance companies, and help to close the Medicare " doughnut " hole

> > to make

> > prescription drugs more affordable for seniors.

> > 7.. You can keep your own insurance: It's myth that reform will

> > force you

> > out of your current insurance plan or force you to change doctors.

> > To the

> > contrary, reform will expand your choices, not eliminate them.

> > 8. No, government will not do anything with your bank account: It is

> > an

> > absurd myth that government will be in charge of your bank accounts.

> > Health

> > insurance reform will simplify administration, making it easier and

> > more

> > convenient for you to pay bills in a method that you choose. Just

> > like paying

> > a phone bill or a utility bill, you can pay by traditional check, or

> > by a

> > direct electronic payment. And forms will be standardized so they

> > will be

> > easier to understand. The choice is up to you - and the same rules

> > of privacy

> > will apply as they do for all other electronic payments that people

> > make.

> >

> >

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Well Dudley Amendment 16 Says " The Congress shall have the power to

lay and collect taxes on incomes, from whatever source derived,

without appointment among several states, and without regard to any

census or enumeration. " ratified Feb. 3, 1913. it does not say

anything about what the tax does or doesn't have to pay for so yes

according to the constitution they CAN use the money for medicare/caid

it does not however make healthcare a " right " so the answer is yes and

no!

-Chris

>

>

>

> Find the section of?the Constitution where it says the US Government

> can provide Medicare or Medicaid and tax all of us to make it

> happen.? Not only do we have to have the Constitution, we have to

> have a populace that knows what it says and will stand up and make

> some noise when it is being violated.? That is a problem we have had

> in our country for a long time.? BTW, that is one thing that excites

> me about all the activity this August.? At least people are getting

> involved in their government.

>

> Dudley

>

> Re: Health Care Reform Facts for the Educate

> Person

>

> Ron I think you have hit the nail on the head people here the term

> " socialized medicine " and they have fears of the old communist days

> where everyone answers to the supreme leader that controls everything

> by force but we are lucky here we can stand up and tell our leaders no

> if we don't like what they are doing the constitution assures that.

>

> -Chris

>

> Sorry for the spelling and punctuation this was sent from my iPhone!

>

> On Aug 15, 2009, at 0:03, Ron Haussecker haussecker87@...>

> wrote:

>

> > The word " Socialism " is just a word that was used by folks to scare

> > others about anything this new President is trying to do. If we deal

> > with is as Health Care Reform then we and make our Country strong. I

> > think the last numbers I saw was Texas is 48 to 49th in providing

> > health care for our children better know as CHIPS. I'm ashamed we

> > will let our young children like in the streets and die due to

> > politics, and won't stand by and be silent about killing our

> > children in Texas so that folks and get elected. If we elected folks

> > to kill our fellow Texans, then we need a head check. I thought

> > Texans Stood up for fellow Texans, but maybe those days passed me by

> > years ago.

> > Keep the great comments and thoughts coming to keep us thinking and

> > thanks for all the thought and time you put in writing the post.

> > Ron

> > 8 ways

> > >

> > > 8 ways reform provides security and stability to those with or

> > without

> > > coverage

> > >

> > > 1.. Ends Discrimination for Pre-Existing Conditions: Insurance

> > > companies

> > > will be prohibited from refusing you coverage because of your

> > medical

> > > history.

> > > 2.. Ends Exorbitant Out-of-Pocket Expenses, Deductibles or Co-

> Pays:

> > > Insurance companies will have to abide by yearly caps on how much

> > > they can charge

> > > for out-of-pocket expenses.

> > > 3.. Ends Cost-Sharing for Preventive Care: Insurance companies

> must

> > > fully

> > > cover, without charge, regular checkups and tests that help you

> > > prevent

> > > illness, such as mammograms or eye and foot exams for diabetics.

> > > 4.. Ends Dropping of Coverage for Seriously Ill: Insurance

> companies

> > > will

> > > be prohibited from dropping or watering down insurance coverage

> for

> > > those

> > > who become seriously ill.

> > > 5.. Ends Gender Discrimination: Insurance companies will be

> > prohibited

> > > from charging you more because of your gender.

> > > 6.. Ends Annual or Lifetime Caps on Coverage: Insurance companies

> > > will be

> > > prevented from placing annual or lifetime caps on the coverage you

> > > receive.

> > > 7.. Extends Coverage for Young Adults: Children would continue

> to be

> > > eligible for family coverage through the age of 26.

> > > 8.. Guarantees Insurance Renewal: Insurance companies will be

> > > required to

> > > renew any policy as long as the policyholder pays their premium in

> > > full.

> > > Insurance companies won't be allowed to refuse renewal because

> > > someone became

> > > sick.

> > >

> > > 8 common myths about health insurance reform

> > >

> > > 1.. Reform will stop " rationing " - not increase it: It's a myth

> that

> > > reform will mean a " government takeover " of health care or lead to

> > > " rationing. "

> > > To the contrary, reform will forbid many forms of rationing that

> are

> > > currently being used by insurance companies.

> > > 2.. We can't afford reform: It's the status quo we can't afford.

> > > It's a

> > > myth that reform will bust the budget. To the contrary, the

> > > President has

> > > identified ways to pay for the vast majority of the up-front costs

> > > by cutting

> > > waste, fraud, and abuse within existing government health

> programs;

> > > ending

> > > big subsidies to insurance companies; and increasing efficiency

> with

> > > such

> > > steps as coordinating care and streamlining paperwork. In the long

> > > term,

> > > reform can help bring down costs that will otherwise lead to a

> > > fiscal crisis.

> > > 3.. Reform would encourage " euthanasia " : It does not. It's a

> > > malicious

> > > myth that reform would encourage or even require euthanasia for

> > > seniors. For

> > > seniors who want to consult with their family and physicians about

> > > end-of

> > > life decisions, reform will help to cover these voluntary, private

> > > consultations for those who want help with these personal and

> > > difficult family

> > > decisions.

> > > 4.. Vets' health care is safe and sound: It's a myth that health

> > > insurance

> > > reform will affect veterans' access to the care they get now. To

> the

> > > contrary, the President's budget significantly expands coverage

> > > under the VA,

> > > extending care to 500,000 more veterans who were previously

> > > excluded. The VA

> > > Healthcare system will continue to be available for all eligible

> > > veterans.

> > > 5.. Reform will benefit small business - not burden it: It's a

> myth

> > > that

> > > health insurance reform will hurt small businesses. To the

> contrary,

> > > reform

> > > will ease the burdens on small businesses, provide tax credits to

> > > help them

> > > pay for employee coverage and help level the playing field with

> big

> > > firms

> > > who pay much less to cover their employees on average.

> > > 6.. Your Medicare is safe, and stronger with reform: It's myth

> that

> > > Health

> > > Insurance Reform would be financed by cutting Medicare benefits.

> To

> > > the

> > > contrary, reform will improve the long-term financial health of

> > > Medicare,

> > > ensure better coordination, eliminate waste and unnecessary

> > > subsidies to

> > > insurance companies, and help to close the Medicare " doughnut "

> hole

> > > to make

> > > prescription drugs more affordable for seniors.

> > > 7.. You can keep your own insurance: It's myth that reform will

> > > force you

> > > out of your current insurance plan or force you to change doctors.

> > > To the

> > > contrary, reform will expand your choices, not eliminate them.

> > > 8. No, government will not do anything with your bank account:

> It is

> > > an

> > > absurd myth that government will be in charge of your bank

> accounts.

> > > Health

> > > insurance reform will simplify administration, making it easier

> and

> > > more

> > > convenient for you to pay bills in a method that you choose. Just

> > > like paying

> > > a phone bill or a utility bill, you can pay by traditional

> check, or

> > > by a

> > > direct electronic payment. And forms will be standardized so they

> > > will be

> > > easier to understand. The choice is up to you - and the same rules

> > > of privacy

> > > will apply as they do for all other electronic payments that

> people

> > > make.

> > >

> > >

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Doesn't your employer use tax money? You see where I'm headed with this. Just

going to make a point, and it has NOTHING personal to do with you. I've been

there many years and well before you, but that is age telling. I can promise

you that.

Thanks

Ron

8 ways

> >

> > 8 ways reform provides security and stability to those with or without

> > coverage

> >

> > 1.. Ends Discrimination for Pre-Existing Conditions: Insurance

> > companies

> > will be prohibited from refusing you coverage because of your medical

> > history.

> > 2.. Ends Exorbitant Out-of-Pocket Expenses, Deductibles or Co-Pays:

> > Insurance companies will have to abide by yearly caps on how much

> > they can charge

> > for out-of-pocket expenses.

> > 3.. Ends Cost-Sharing for Preventive Care: Insurance companies must

> > fully

> > cover, without charge, regular checkups and tests that help you

> > prevent

> > illness, such as mammograms or eye and foot exams for diabetics.

> > 4.. Ends Dropping of Coverage for Seriously Ill: Insurance companies

> > will

> > be prohibited from dropping or watering down insurance coverage for

> > those

> > who become seriously ill.

> > 5.. Ends Gender Discrimination: Insurance companies will be prohibited

> > from charging you more because of your gender.

> > 6.. Ends Annual or Lifetime Caps on Coverage: Insurance companies

> > will be

> > prevented from placing annual or lifetime caps on the coverage you

> > receive.

> > 7.. Extends Coverage for Young Adults: Children would continue to be

> > eligible for family coverage through the age of 26.

> > 8.. Guarantees Insurance Renewal: Insurance companies will be

> > required to

> > renew any policy as long as the policyholder pays their premium in

> > full.

> > Insurance companies won't be allowed to refuse renewal because

> > someone became

> > sick.

> >

> > 8 common myths about health insurance reform

> >

> > 1.. Reform will stop " rationing " - not increase it: It's a myth that

> > reform will mean a " government takeover " of health care or lead to

> > " rationing. "

> > To the contrary, reform will forbid many forms of rationing that are

> > currently being used by insurance companies.

> > 2.. We can't afford reform: It's the status quo we can't afford.

> > It's a

> > myth that reform will bust the budget. To the contrary, the

> > President has

> > identified ways to pay for the vast majority of the up-front costs

> > by cutting

> > waste, fraud, and abuse within existing government health programs;

> > ending

> > big subsidies to insurance companies; and increasing efficiency with

> > such

> > steps as coordinating care and streamlining paperwork. In the long

> > term,

> > reform can help bring down costs that will otherwise lead to a

> > fiscal crisis.

> > 3.. Reform would encourage " euthanasia " : It does not. It's a

> > malicious

> > myth that reform would encourage or even require euthanasia for

> > seniors. For

> > seniors who want to consult with their family and physicians about

> > end-of

> > life decisions, reform will help to cover these voluntary, private

> > consultations for those who want help with these personal and

> > difficult family

> > decisions.

> > 4.. Vets' health care is safe and sound: It's a myth that health

> > insurance

> > reform will affect veterans' access to the care they get now. To the

> > contrary, the President's budget significantly expands coverage

> > under the VA,

> > extending care to 500,000 more veterans who were previously

> > excluded. The VA

> > Healthcare system will continue to be available for all eligible

> > veterans.

> > 5.. Reform will benefit small business - not burden it: It's a myth

> > that

> > health insurance reform will hurt small businesses. To the contrary,

> > reform

> > will ease the burdens on small businesses, provide tax credits to

> > help them

> > pay for employee coverage and help level the playing field with big

> > firms

> > who pay much less to cover their employees on average.

> > 6.. Your Medicare is safe, and stronger with reform: It's myth that

> > Health

> > Insurance Reform would be financed by cutting Medicare benefits. To

> > the

> > contrary, reform will improve the long-term financial health of

> > Medicare,

> > ensure better coordination, eliminate waste and unnecessary

> > subsidies to

> > insurance companies, and help to close the Medicare " doughnut " hole

> > to make

> > prescription drugs more affordable for seniors.

> > 7.. You can keep your own insurance: It's myth that reform will

> > force you

> > out of your current insurance plan or force you to change doctors.

> > To the

> > contrary, reform will expand your choices, not eliminate them.

> > 8. No, government will not do anything with your bank account: It is

> > an

> > absurd myth that government will be in charge of your bank accounts.

> > Health

> > insurance reform will simplify administration, making it easier and

> > more

> > convenient for you to pay bills in a method that you choose. Just

> > like paying

> > a phone bill or a utility bill, you can pay by traditional check, or

> > by a

> > direct electronic payment. And forms will be standardized so they

> > will be

> > easier to understand. The choice is up to you - and the same rules

> > of privacy

> > will apply as they do for all other electronic payments that people

> > make.

> >

> >

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Again I ask...

So we can't handle the little bit of health care the government does now...so we

want to give them more?? Really?? Where can I get that job?? Dudley, you have

done a miserable job running EMS...your turnover is 90%, your budget is $3M in

the red and the citizens are rioting in the streets....so we are putting you in

charge of the FD and PD as well!!!!

I just don't get it.? The post office, Amtrak, Social Security, Medicare, the

VA, the EPA, OSHA, FEMA, now the mortgage market, banking industry and General

Motors....all have terrible times actually trying to do the jobs they are

supposed to do...yet we still have all the faith in the world that they can

maybe do this next thing right.?

I for one am sick and tired of letting them do anything other than what our

founding fathers intended for them to do...Security and public safety....when

can we stop the insanity??

Dudley

Re: Health Care Reform Facts for the Educate Person

We can't eliminate fraud in EMS in Texas, so I don't see that happening. Perhaps

some that perform fraud sit on this list.

Ron

8 ways

> >

> > 8 ways reform provides security and stability to those with or without

> > coverage

> >

> > 1.. Ends Discrimination for Pre-Existing Conditions: Insurance

> > companies

> > will be prohibited from refusing you coverage because of your medical

> > history.

> > 2.. Ends Exorbitant Out-of-Pocket Expenses, Deductibles or Co-Pays:

> > Insurance companies will have to abide by yearly caps on how much

> > they can charge

> > for out-of-pocket expenses.

> > 3.. Ends Cost-Sharing for Preventive Care: Insurance companies must

> > fully

> > cover, without charge, regular checkups and tests that help you

> > prevent

> > illness, such as mammograms or eye and foot exams for diabetics.

> > 4.. Ends Dropping of Coverage for Seriously Ill: Insurance companies

> > will

> > be prohibited from dropping or watering down insurance coverage for

> > those

> > who become seriously ill.

> > 5.. Ends Gender Discrimination: Insurance companies will be prohibited

> > from charging you more because of your gender.

> > 6.. Ends Annual or Lifetime Caps on Coverage: Insurance companies

> > will be

> > prevented from placing annual or lifetime caps on the coverage you

> > receive.

> > 7.. Extends Coverage for Young Adults: Children would continue to be

> > eligible for family coverage through the age of 26.

> > 8.. Guarantees Insurance Renewal: Insurance companies will be

> > required to

> > renew any policy as long as the policyholder pays their premium in

> > full.

> > Insurance companies won't be allowed to refuse renewal because

> > someone became

> > sick.

> >

> > 8 common myths about health insurance reform

> >

> > 1.. Reform will stop " rationing " - not increase it: It's a myth that

> > reform will mean a " government takeover " of health care or lead to

> > " rationing. "

> > To the contrary, reform will forbid many forms of rationing that are

> > currently being used by insurance companies.

> > 2.. We can't afford reform: It's the status quo we can't afford.

> > It's a

> > myth that reform will bust the budget. To the contrary, the

> > President has

> > identified ways to pay for the vast majority of the up-front costs

> > by cutting

> > waste, fraud, and abuse within existing government health programs;

> > ending

> > big subsidies to insurance companies; and increasing efficiency with

> > such

> > steps as coordinating care and streamlining paperwork. In the long

> > term,

> > reform can help bring down costs that will otherwise lead to a

> > fiscal crisis.

> > 3.. Reform would encourage " euthanasia " : It does not. It's a

> > malicious

> > myth that reform would encourage or even require euthanasia for

> > seniors. For

> > seniors who want to consult with their family and physicians about

> > end-of

> > life decisions, reform will help to cover these voluntary, private

> > consultations for those who want help with these personal and

> > difficult family

> > decisions.

> > 4.. Vets' health care is safe and sound: It's a myth that health

> > insurance

> > reform will affect veterans' access to the care they get now. To the

> > contrary, the President's budget significantly expands coverage

> > under the VA,

> > extending care to 500,000 more veterans who were previously

> > excluded. The VA

> > Healthcare system will continue to be available for all eligible

> > veterans.

> > 5.. Reform will benefit small business - not burden it: It's a myth

> > that

> > health insurance reform will hurt small businesses. To the contrary,

> > reform

> > will ease the burdens on small businesses, provide tax credits to

> > help them

> > pay for employee coverage and help level the playing field with big

> > firms

> > who pay much less to cover their employees on average.

> > 6.. Your Medicare is safe, and stronger with reform: It's myth that

> > Health

> > Insurance Reform would be financed by cutting Medicare benefits. To

> > the

> > contrary, reform will improve the long-term financial health of

> > Medicare,

> > ensure better coordination, eliminate waste and unnecessary

> > subsidies to

> > insurance companies, and help to close the Medicare " doughnut " hole

> > to make

> > prescription drugs more affordable for seniors.

> > 7.. You can keep your own insurance: It's myth that reform will

> > force you

> > out of your current insurance plan or force you to change doctors.

> > To the

> > contrary, reform will expand your choices, not eliminate them.

> > 8. No, government will not do anything with your bank account: It is

> > an

> > absurd myth that government will be in charge of your bank accounts.

> > Health

> > insurance reform will simplify administration, making it easier and

> > more

> > convenient for you to pay bills in a method that you choose. Just

> > like paying

> > a phone bill or a utility bill, you can pay by traditional check, or

> > by a

> > direct electronic payment. And forms will be standardized so they

> > will be

> > easier to understand. The choice is up to you - and the same rules

> > of privacy

> > will apply as they do for all other electronic payments that people

> > make.

> >

> >

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But Dudley on another note I see your point as I`m sure you see mine

being the nerd that I am and having read the entire constitution (and

Geneva Convention for some odd reason) with the exception of slavery,

prohibition and a few other randoms, the constitution is very very

vague and can be way over interpreted, and analyzed (much like the

bible lol) so its hard to say who is right solely by reading it. As

they say " it`s a living document. "

-Chris

but point taken!!

>

>

>

> Find the section of?the Constitution where it says the US Government

> can provide Medicare or Medicaid and tax all of us to make it

> happen.? Not only do we have to have the Constitution, we have to

> have a populace that knows what it says and will stand up and make

> some noise when it is being violated.? That is a problem we have had

> in our country for a long time.? BTW, that is one thing that excites

> me about all the activity this August.? At least people are getting

> involved in their government.

>

> Dudley

>

> Re: Health Care Reform Facts for the Educate

> Person

>

> Ron I think you have hit the nail on the head people here the term

> " socialized medicine " and they have fears of the old communist days

> where everyone answers to the supreme leader that controls everything

> by force but we are lucky here we can stand up and tell our leaders no

> if we don't like what they are doing the constitution assures that.

>

> -Chris

>

> Sorry for the spelling and punctuation this was sent from my iPhone!

>

> On Aug 15, 2009, at 0:03, Ron Haussecker haussecker87@...>

> wrote:

>

> > The word " Socialism " is just a word that was used by folks to scare

> > others about anything this new President is trying to do. If we deal

> > with is as Health Care Reform then we and make our Country strong. I

> > think the last numbers I saw was Texas is 48 to 49th in providing

> > health care for our children better know as CHIPS. I'm ashamed we

> > will let our young children like in the streets and die due to

> > politics, and won't stand by and be silent about killing our

> > children in Texas so that folks and get elected. If we elected folks

> > to kill our fellow Texans, then we need a head check. I thought

> > Texans Stood up for fellow Texans, but maybe those days passed me by

> > years ago.

> > Keep the great comments and thoughts coming to keep us thinking and

> > thanks for all the thought and time you put in writing the post.

> > Ron

> > 8 ways

> > >

> > > 8 ways reform provides security and stability to those with or

> > without

> > > coverage

> > >

> > > 1.. Ends Discrimination for Pre-Existing Conditions: Insurance

> > > companies

> > > will be prohibited from refusing you coverage because of your

> > medical

> > > history.

> > > 2.. Ends Exorbitant Out-of-Pocket Expenses, Deductibles or Co-

> Pays:

> > > Insurance companies will have to abide by yearly caps on how much

> > > they can charge

> > > for out-of-pocket expenses.

> > > 3.. Ends Cost-Sharing for Preventive Care: Insurance companies

> must

> > > fully

> > > cover, without charge, regular checkups and tests that help you

> > > prevent

> > > illness, such as mammograms or eye and foot exams for diabetics.

> > > 4.. Ends Dropping of Coverage for Seriously Ill: Insurance

> companies

> > > will

> > > be prohibited from dropping or watering down insurance coverage

> for

> > > those

> > > who become seriously ill.

> > > 5.. Ends Gender Discrimination: Insurance companies will be

> > prohibited

> > > from charging you more because of your gender.

> > > 6.. Ends Annual or Lifetime Caps on Coverage: Insurance companies

> > > will be

> > > prevented from placing annual or lifetime caps on the coverage you

> > > receive.

> > > 7.. Extends Coverage for Young Adults: Children would continue

> to be

> > > eligible for family coverage through the age of 26.

> > > 8.. Guarantees Insurance Renewal: Insurance companies will be

> > > required to

> > > renew any policy as long as the policyholder pays their premium in

> > > full.

> > > Insurance companies won't be allowed to refuse renewal because

> > > someone became

> > > sick.

> > >

> > > 8 common myths about health insurance reform

> > >

> > > 1.. Reform will stop " rationing " - not increase it: It's a myth

> that

> > > reform will mean a " government takeover " of health care or lead to

> > > " rationing. "

> > > To the contrary, reform will forbid many forms of rationing that

> are

> > > currently being used by insurance companies.

> > > 2.. We can't afford reform: It's the status quo we can't afford.

> > > It's a

> > > myth that reform will bust the budget. To the contrary, the

> > > President has

> > > identified ways to pay for the vast majority of the up-front costs

> > > by cutting

> > > waste, fraud, and abuse within existing government health

> programs;

> > > ending

> > > big subsidies to insurance companies; and increasing efficiency

> with

> > > such

> > > steps as coordinating care and streamlining paperwork. In the long

> > > term,

> > > reform can help bring down costs that will otherwise lead to a

> > > fiscal crisis.

> > > 3.. Reform would encourage " euthanasia " : It does not. It's a

> > > malicious

> > > myth that reform would encourage or even require euthanasia for

> > > seniors. For

> > > seniors who want to consult with their family and physicians about

> > > end-of

> > > life decisions, reform will help to cover these voluntary, private

> > > consultations for those who want help with these personal and

> > > difficult family

> > > decisions.

> > > 4.. Vets' health care is safe and sound: It's a myth that health

> > > insurance

> > > reform will affect veterans' access to the care they get now. To

> the

> > > contrary, the President's budget significantly expands coverage

> > > under the VA,

> > > extending care to 500,000 more veterans who were previously

> > > excluded. The VA

> > > Healthcare system will continue to be available for all eligible

> > > veterans.

> > > 5.. Reform will benefit small business - not burden it: It's a

> myth

> > > that

> > > health insurance reform will hurt small businesses. To the

> contrary,

> > > reform

> > > will ease the burdens on small businesses, provide tax credits to

> > > help them

> > > pay for employee coverage and help level the playing field with

> big

> > > firms

> > > who pay much less to cover their employees on average.

> > > 6.. Your Medicare is safe, and stronger with reform: It's myth

> that

> > > Health

> > > Insurance Reform would be financed by cutting Medicare benefits.

> To

> > > the

> > > contrary, reform will improve the long-term financial health of

> > > Medicare,

> > > ensure better coordination, eliminate waste and unnecessary

> > > subsidies to

> > > insurance companies, and help to close the Medicare " doughnut "

> hole

> > > to make

> > > prescription drugs more affordable for seniors.

> > > 7.. You can keep your own insurance: It's myth that reform will

> > > force you

> > > out of your current insurance plan or force you to change doctors.

> > > To the

> > > contrary, reform will expand your choices, not eliminate them.

> > > 8. No, government will not do anything with your bank account:

> It is

> > > an

> > > absurd myth that government will be in charge of your bank

> accounts.

> > > Health

> > > insurance reform will simplify administration, making it easier

> and

> > > more

> > > convenient for you to pay bills in a method that you choose. Just

> > > like paying

> > > a phone bill or a utility bill, you can pay by traditional

> check, or

> > > by a

> > > direct electronic payment. And forms will be standardized so they

> > > will be

> > > easier to understand. The choice is up to you - and the same rules

> > > of privacy

> > > will apply as they do for all other electronic payments that

> people

> > > make.

> > >

> > >

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Using the constitution and other arguments keep folks from talking about the

bill being looked at to be voted on. If you could the issue and confuse folks

enough, or use the same old " FEAR " tactics you will get your way whether you

believe in it or not. Many folks just want to fight the other party and don't

care if it helps there country are not, they are extremist and they come in many

ages, sexes, walks of life, ect'; and there will be extremist on this and

millions of other groups wanting to push things the way they or whom they

represent for things to go their way. The " majority of Americans " voted last

Nov. and said enough. This Country is run by simple majority and if that doesn't

make folks proud to be an American then there are plenty of other countries they

can go to and some do, and already have. They like someone, idea, money, or

something in the other country more than their own. I'll just stay in the good

old usa. As Greenwood sings " I'm Proud to be an American "

Ron

8 ways

> > >

> > > 8 ways reform provides security and stability to those with or

> > without

> > > coverage

> > >

> > > 1.. Ends Discrimination for Pre-Existing Conditions: Insurance

> > > companies

> > > will be prohibited from refusing you coverage because of your

> > medical

> > > history.

> > > 2.. Ends Exorbitant Out-of-Pocket Expenses, Deductibles or Co-

> Pays:

> > > Insurance companies will have to abide by yearly caps on how much

> > > they can charge

> > > for out-of-pocket expenses.

> > > 3.. Ends Cost-Sharing for Preventive Care: Insurance companies

> must

> > > fully

> > > cover, without charge, regular checkups and tests that help you

> > > prevent

> > > illness, such as mammograms or eye and foot exams for diabetics.

> > > 4.. Ends Dropping of Coverage for Seriously Ill: Insurance

> companies

> > > will

> > > be prohibited from dropping or watering down insurance coverage

> for

> > > those

> > > who become seriously ill.

> > > 5.. Ends Gender Discrimination: Insurance companies will be

> > prohibited

> > > from charging you more because of your gender.

> > > 6.. Ends Annual or Lifetime Caps on Coverage: Insurance companies

> > > will be

> > > prevented from placing annual or lifetime caps on the coverage you

> > > receive.

> > > 7.. Extends Coverage for Young Adults: Children would continue

> to be

> > > eligible for family coverage through the age of 26.

> > > 8.. Guarantees Insurance Renewal: Insurance companies will be

> > > required to

> > > renew any policy as long as the policyholder pays their premium in

> > > full.

> > > Insurance companies won't be allowed to refuse renewal because

> > > someone became

> > > sick.

> > >

> > > 8 common myths about health insurance reform

> > >

> > > 1.. Reform will stop " rationing " - not increase it: It's a myth

> that

> > > reform will mean a " government takeover " of health care or lead to

> > > " rationing. "

> > > To the contrary, reform will forbid many forms of rationing that

> are

> > > currently being used by insurance companies.

> > > 2.. We can't afford reform: It's the status quo we can't afford.

> > > It's a

> > > myth that reform will bust the budget. To the contrary, the

> > > President has

> > > identified ways to pay for the vast majority of the up-front costs

> > > by cutting

> > > waste, fraud, and abuse within existing government health

> programs;

> > > ending

> > > big subsidies to insurance companies; and increasing efficiency

> with

> > > such

> > > steps as coordinating care and streamlining paperwork. In the long

> > > term,

> > > reform can help bring down costs that will otherwise lead to a

> > > fiscal crisis.

> > > 3.. Reform would encourage " euthanasia " : It does not. It's a

> > > malicious

> > > myth that reform would encourage or even require euthanasia for

> > > seniors. For

> > > seniors who want to consult with their family and physicians about

> > > end-of

> > > life decisions, reform will help to cover these voluntary, private

> > > consultations for those who want help with these personal and

> > > difficult family

> > > decisions.

> > > 4.. Vets' health care is safe and sound: It's a myth that health

> > > insurance

> > > reform will affect veterans' access to the care they get now. To

> the

> > > contrary, the President's budget significantly expands coverage

> > > under the VA,

> > > extending care to 500,000 more veterans who were previously

> > > excluded. The VA

> > > Healthcare system will continue to be available for all eligible

> > > veterans.

> > > 5.. Reform will benefit small business - not burden it: It's a

> myth

> > > that

> > > health insurance reform will hurt small businesses. To the

> contrary,

> > > reform

> > > will ease the burdens on small businesses, provide tax credits to

> > > help them

> > > pay for employee coverage and help level the playing field with

> big

> > > firms

> > > who pay much less to cover their employees on average.

> > > 6.. Your Medicare is safe, and stronger with reform: It's myth

> that

> > > Health

> > > Insurance Reform would be financed by cutting Medicare benefits.

> To

> > > the

> > > contrary, reform will improve the long-term financial health of

> > > Medicare,

> > > ensure better coordination, eliminate waste and unnecessary

> > > subsidies to

> > > insurance companies, and help to close the Medicare " doughnut "

> hole

> > > to make

> > > prescription drugs more affordable for seniors.

> > > 7.. You can keep your own insurance: It's myth that reform will

> > > force you

> > > out of your current insurance plan or force you to change doctors.

> > > To the

> > > contrary, reform will expand your choices, not eliminate them.

> > > 8. No, government will not do anything with your bank account:

> It is

> > > an

> > > absurd myth that government will be in charge of your bank

> accounts.

> > > Health

> > > insurance reform will simplify administration, making it easier

> and

> > > more

> > > convenient for you to pay bills in a method that you choose. Just

> > > like paying

> > > a phone bill or a utility bill, you can pay by traditional

> check, or

> > > by a

> > > direct electronic payment. And forms will be standardized so they

> > > will be

> > > easier to understand. The choice is up to you - and the same rules

> > > of privacy

> > > will apply as they do for all other electronic payments that

> people

> > > make.

> > >

> > >

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