Guest guest Posted October 14, 2004 Report Share Posted October 14, 2004 I also have that type of pain. It even hurts me to hug people at times, let alone allow them to touch me except extremely gently. Re: Pain in arms and legs I have this type of pain all over and it sounds like it could be the same fibromyalgia type pain you are getting. Some people (myself included) believe that fibromyalgia is just undiagnosed hypo and will improve once you are on the correct dose of thyroid meds. Lynda (in the UK) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 14, 2004 Report Share Posted October 14, 2004 Oh geez, then even on the Armour it could take years before I get to feeling any better? Not much encouragement there. Re: Re: Pain in arms and legs , Unfortunately I'm not at that stage yet, but a lot of others on this forum have said they experienced a lessening of pain once they were on their optimum dose of armour. I think it also depends on how long you have been hypo and untreated. For myself, it is a looooong time. When you have been untreated for such a long time you have changes at cell level and that takes a long time to reverse. Armour is not a quick fix, it takes a long time to get to the correct dosage level for a start and then it needs to get into the cells to be able to reverse the damage. Lynda (in the UK) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 14, 2004 Report Share Posted October 14, 2004 Oh geez, then even on the Armour it could take years before I get to feeling any better? Not much encouragement there. Re: Re: Pain in arms and legs , Unfortunately I'm not at that stage yet, but a lot of others on this forum have said they experienced a lessening of pain once they were on their optimum dose of armour. I think it also depends on how long you have been hypo and untreated. For myself, it is a looooong time. When you have been untreated for such a long time you have changes at cell level and that takes a long time to reverse. Armour is not a quick fix, it takes a long time to get to the correct dosage level for a start and then it needs to get into the cells to be able to reverse the damage. Lynda (in the UK) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 14, 2004 Report Share Posted October 14, 2004 Oh geez, then even on the Armour it could take years before I get to feeling any better? Not much encouragement there. Re: Re: Pain in arms and legs , Unfortunately I'm not at that stage yet, but a lot of others on this forum have said they experienced a lessening of pain once they were on their optimum dose of armour. I think it also depends on how long you have been hypo and untreated. For myself, it is a looooong time. When you have been untreated for such a long time you have changes at cell level and that takes a long time to reverse. Armour is not a quick fix, it takes a long time to get to the correct dosage level for a start and then it needs to get into the cells to be able to reverse the damage. Lynda (in the UK) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 14, 2004 Report Share Posted October 14, 2004 In a message dated 10/14/2004 6:06:19 PM Eastern Standard Time, 420@... writes: > i do not believe it will take years for me to get > better, i think we may just be disagreeing about " feeling better " and being comletely healed. I felt better the first week, better still after one month and doing pretty darn good at 6 months. But is my body healed completely from years of hypo? No...that will take some time. Cindi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 14, 2004 Report Share Posted October 14, 2004 yes you right not in the arms. My mom has it very bad, just popping out between her legs and so does my sister. so I guess it is not that. > oh, I beg to differ on that one <g> > My mother had varicose veins in both legs and suffered terrible pain with them. Maybe it depends on how bad they are (hers stood out from the skin like purple grapes) > However, I've never heard of anyone getting them in their arms, only legs, so I don't think the pain would be from varicose veins in this instance > Lynda (in the UK) > Re: Re: Pain in arms and legs > > > varicose veins don't hurt, they're just *there*. some say unsightly. > but they are common symptoms of aging and pregnancy and i don't know > that they hurt. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 14, 2004 Report Share Posted October 14, 2004 i don't believe it takes years. the recovery window for people who have gotten on the right dosage and right meds that i've read about has been fairly small. days to weeks. one gentlemen on the alt.support.thyroid newgroup says his wife, after starting on t3, felt better in 24 hours, after years of pain and suffering. from what i've seen and read, it looks like dosing with the meds isn't the hard part--it's finding the doctor who will do it. that seems to be where most of us seem to be spending most of our energy. it's a shame. b > > Oh geez, then even on the Armour it could take years before I get to > feeling any better? Not much encouragement there. > Re: Re: Pain in arms and legs > > > , > Unfortunately I'm not at that stage yet, but a lot of others on this > forum have said they experienced a lessening of pain once they were on > their optimum dose of armour. > I think it also depends on how long you have been hypo and > untreated. For myself, it is a looooong time. When you have been > untreated for such a long time you have changes at cell level and that > takes a long time to reverse. Armour is not a quick fix, it takes a > long time to get to the correct dosage level for a start and then it > needs to get into the cells to be able to reverse the damage. > Lynda (in the UK) > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 14, 2004 Report Share Posted October 14, 2004 i don't believe it takes years. the recovery window for people who have gotten on the right dosage and right meds that i've read about has been fairly small. days to weeks. one gentlemen on the alt.support.thyroid newgroup says his wife, after starting on t3, felt better in 24 hours, after years of pain and suffering. from what i've seen and read, it looks like dosing with the meds isn't the hard part--it's finding the doctor who will do it. that seems to be where most of us seem to be spending most of our energy. it's a shame. b > > Oh geez, then even on the Armour it could take years before I get to > feeling any better? Not much encouragement there. > Re: Re: Pain in arms and legs > > > , > Unfortunately I'm not at that stage yet, but a lot of others on this > forum have said they experienced a lessening of pain once they were on > their optimum dose of armour. > I think it also depends on how long you have been hypo and > untreated. For myself, it is a looooong time. When you have been > untreated for such a long time you have changes at cell level and that > takes a long time to reverse. Armour is not a quick fix, it takes a > long time to get to the correct dosage level for a start and then it > needs to get into the cells to be able to reverse the damage. > Lynda (in the UK) > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 14, 2004 Report Share Posted October 14, 2004 Caroline, no that's not exactly what I meant. Certain things do improve dramatically quite fast, depression being one of those things. And when you're not feeling depressed any more, everything looks brighter. I had to give up work about 18 months ago as I just couldn't manage it anymore. Since I have been on armour several things have improved, but you know when you don't experience something anymore how hard it is to think of what exactly has improved. I should have kept a diary so that I could look back and see exactly what the improvements were, do you know what I mean? I do know that I used to feel desperately sad and cried for days on end. I don't do that anymore. I used to lie awake night after night and I don't do that anymore. My muscle pain has improved tremendously. There are other things but I just can't think of what they are right now. Don't give up hope because some of us are taking a long time to heal. As well as being hypo there are other things to consider too, anemia being one of them. I found out that I had a folic acid deficiency and since I added folic acid to my regimen I feel so much better. Just a pity that the doc didn't act on the lab report that indicated the deficiency years and years ago. Lynda (in the UK) Re: Re: Pain in arms and legs Oh geez, then even on the Armour it could take years before I get to feeling any better? Not much encouragement there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 14, 2004 Report Share Posted October 14, 2004 Caroline, no that's not exactly what I meant. Certain things do improve dramatically quite fast, depression being one of those things. And when you're not feeling depressed any more, everything looks brighter. I had to give up work about 18 months ago as I just couldn't manage it anymore. Since I have been on armour several things have improved, but you know when you don't experience something anymore how hard it is to think of what exactly has improved. I should have kept a diary so that I could look back and see exactly what the improvements were, do you know what I mean? I do know that I used to feel desperately sad and cried for days on end. I don't do that anymore. I used to lie awake night after night and I don't do that anymore. My muscle pain has improved tremendously. There are other things but I just can't think of what they are right now. Don't give up hope because some of us are taking a long time to heal. As well as being hypo there are other things to consider too, anemia being one of them. I found out that I had a folic acid deficiency and since I added folic acid to my regimen I feel so much better. Just a pity that the doc didn't act on the lab report that indicated the deficiency years and years ago. Lynda (in the UK) Re: Re: Pain in arms and legs Oh geez, then even on the Armour it could take years before I get to feeling any better? Not much encouragement there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 14, 2004 Report Share Posted October 14, 2004 Caroline, no that's not exactly what I meant. Certain things do improve dramatically quite fast, depression being one of those things. And when you're not feeling depressed any more, everything looks brighter. I had to give up work about 18 months ago as I just couldn't manage it anymore. Since I have been on armour several things have improved, but you know when you don't experience something anymore how hard it is to think of what exactly has improved. I should have kept a diary so that I could look back and see exactly what the improvements were, do you know what I mean? I do know that I used to feel desperately sad and cried for days on end. I don't do that anymore. I used to lie awake night after night and I don't do that anymore. My muscle pain has improved tremendously. There are other things but I just can't think of what they are right now. Don't give up hope because some of us are taking a long time to heal. As well as being hypo there are other things to consider too, anemia being one of them. I found out that I had a folic acid deficiency and since I added folic acid to my regimen I feel so much better. Just a pity that the doc didn't act on the lab report that indicated the deficiency years and years ago. Lynda (in the UK) Re: Re: Pain in arms and legs Oh geez, then even on the Armour it could take years before I get to feeling any better? Not much encouragement there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 14, 2004 Report Share Posted October 14, 2004 Thanks to everyone who has answered my posts. It is so helpful. I have been wining for a 1-1/2 about the pain in my legs and arms to my family and doctor and no one could figure it out. I will get that checked out. thanks a million > > When my children push on my arms or I just wrap my legs around a chair > it hurts. It seems like it is the veins. When I push on them it hurts. > My husband is always clowning around poking, hitting... and it really > hurts my arms that it is hard for him to remember. > I have ask doctors about it, and they can not give me and answer. I > thought it was my anti-convulsant meds, but my doctor said no. Is it > something else. Does it have to do with the thyroid? I am not on > Armour I am still on synthroid. > thanks > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 14, 2004 Report Share Posted October 14, 2004 Well, let's hope if I change to Armour then I'll feel better in less time than a few years. Caroline Re: Re: Pain in arms and legs i don't believe it takes years. the recovery window for people who have gotten on the right dosage and right meds that i've read about has been fairly small. days to weeks. one gentlemen on the alt.support.thyroid newgroup says his wife, after starting on t3, felt better in 24 hours, after years of pain and suffering. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 14, 2004 Report Share Posted October 14, 2004 Caroline, while some people do have problems, I always have to remind myself of a few things when I'm considering Armour over any other treatment. It doesn't always take years. We all have to remember that under a dr's care, even with Armour, without it being in a proper dosage for us, can be like taking nothing. Dr's are strange creatures and one who doesn't suffer with this disease only knows what he reads. We on the other hand come here, learn and find out we've been grossly mismanaged, and then we have to make choices. I self medicate. The dr doesn't tell me how much to take. I take what I've learned from here, and I make sure I order at least two bottles of it at a time. It's cheaper on me ordering 2-4 bottles at a time, and I also can share it with my Mom, when she took it. She will tell you that she'd been off of it (thyroid replacement) for years, since I was very young, under age 5. I am now 50. She was without those meds for at least 45 yrs and noticed a big difference in no feet pain, no leg pain, no back pain and she works on her feet all day long at age 70? Will it work for you that way? We will never know until you get a prescription for it, or you decide to try it be self medicating where many of us are at now. To me, finding a dr that I have to beg for enuff medicine to help me to feel human is beneath me. I'm not begging. I can order it, and I can read and only focus on one thing......learning how to dose myself. SandyE~Houston On Thu, 14 Oct 2004 12:11:51 -0700 " Caroline Pollak " wrote: > Oh geez, then even on the Armour it could take years before I >get to feeling any better? Not much encouragement there. > Re: Re: Pain in arms and legs > > > , > Unfortunately I'm not at that stage yet, but a lot of others on >this forum have said they experienced a lessening of pain once they >were on their optimum dose of armour. > I think it also depends on how long you have been hypo and >untreated. For myself, it is a looooong time. When you have been >untreated for such a long time you have changes at cell level and >that takes a long time to reverse. Armour is not a quick fix, it >takes a long time to get to the correct dosage level for a start and >then it needs to get into the cells to be able to reverse the damage. > Lynda (in the UK) > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 14, 2004 Report Share Posted October 14, 2004 In a message dated 10/14/2004 8:13:43 PM Eastern Standard Time, starz@... writes: > Something about that card from my dr saying: you are normal and everything > is fine, went over like a turd in a punchbowl after about 24 hours, for me. sometimes you are just so eloquent...and gosh...you have the same attitude i do...feels good to get feisty again, doesn't it? cindi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 14, 2004 Report Share Posted October 14, 2004 In a message dated 10/14/2004 8:34:32 PM Eastern Standard Time, artisticgroom@... writes: > I think this is one of the LONG term damages that takes forever to > heal in this disease. Hopefully the heart can recover and normalize even > after 25 years of not working properly i'm hoping on this one too... cindi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 14, 2004 Report Share Posted October 14, 2004 In a message dated 10/14/2004 9:22:11 PM Eastern Standard Time, 420@... writes: > while obviously exercise and athleticism strengthen the heart, it is a > muscle that works constantly and doesn't atrophy. > i think what it does in hypo is cause heart enlargement and the hypo also causes hardening of the arteries. cindi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 14, 2004 Report Share Posted October 14, 2004 That can very much so be a part of the problem Baron. A dr who isn't going to let you have what your body needs isn't going to get you in optimal health, regardless. They are still going to make money off the insurance, but without considering our symptoms, and then dosing...we aren't going to get better. I can't count the posts I've read who say: my dr prescribed Armour and he's going to up in 30-60 days, whatever and then they say, gosh, Armour isn't helping. I feel worse. Undermedication which is as bad as overmedication never enters their thought process is my guess. If I thought the dr's were smart enuff, after seeing 3 Endo's, I'd gladly give up self medicating and go the route of the dutiful patient. I've found however if you're dealing with a dr, you're most likely going to not get what 'our bodies' need to feel our best. I had to quit reading some of the things I was reading online because there were too many people who were just too willing to sit around and accept that this was 'their lot in life', for it to take years to get a dosage right, or to feel better? Heck, I've wasted enuff time on this disease is my feelings. If I can feel better and not have to deal with a dummie who's got MD behind his name, then they really leave me no choice. I'm too much of a rogue to put up with their lies and misinformation anymore. I have you guys to cheer me on and give me info that I need. :-) While I realize that many people don't have the heart to self medicate, and it is a personal choice for any of us dealing with this disease.....we just have to reach a point where things aren't going well enuff for us to want to get out of the 'funk' and proceed with something that might work. I figured I really had nothing to lose. I was right. :-) The dr was WRONG. Oink :-) SandyE~Houston On Thu, 14 Oct 2004 12:56:31 -0700 baron chat wrote: > i don't believe it takes years. the recovery window for people >who > have gotten on the right dosage and right meds that i've read about >has > been fairly small. days to weeks. one gentlemen on the > alt.support.thyroid newgroup says his wife, after starting on t3, >felt > better in 24 hours, after years of pain and suffering. > > from what i've seen and read, it looks like dosing with the meds >isn't > the hard part--it's finding the doctor who will do it. that seems >to > be where most of us seem to be spending most of our energy. it's a > shame. > > b > > > > > > > Oh geez, then even on the Armour it could take years before I get >to > > feeling any better? Not much encouragement there. > > Re: Re: Pain in arms and legs > > > > > > , > > Unfortunately I'm not at that stage yet, but a lot of others on >this > > forum have said they experienced a lessening of pain once they >were on > > their optimum dose of armour. > > I think it also depends on how long you have been hypo and > > untreated. For myself, it is a looooong time. When you have >been > > untreated for such a long time you have changes at cell level and >that > > takes a long time to reverse. Armour is not a quick fix, it >takes a > > long time to get to the correct dosage level for a start and then >it > > needs to get into the cells to be able to reverse the damage. > > Lynda (in the UK) > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 14, 2004 Report Share Posted October 14, 2004 That can very much so be a part of the problem Baron. A dr who isn't going to let you have what your body needs isn't going to get you in optimal health, regardless. They are still going to make money off the insurance, but without considering our symptoms, and then dosing...we aren't going to get better. I can't count the posts I've read who say: my dr prescribed Armour and he's going to up in 30-60 days, whatever and then they say, gosh, Armour isn't helping. I feel worse. Undermedication which is as bad as overmedication never enters their thought process is my guess. If I thought the dr's were smart enuff, after seeing 3 Endo's, I'd gladly give up self medicating and go the route of the dutiful patient. I've found however if you're dealing with a dr, you're most likely going to not get what 'our bodies' need to feel our best. I had to quit reading some of the things I was reading online because there were too many people who were just too willing to sit around and accept that this was 'their lot in life', for it to take years to get a dosage right, or to feel better? Heck, I've wasted enuff time on this disease is my feelings. If I can feel better and not have to deal with a dummie who's got MD behind his name, then they really leave me no choice. I'm too much of a rogue to put up with their lies and misinformation anymore. I have you guys to cheer me on and give me info that I need. :-) While I realize that many people don't have the heart to self medicate, and it is a personal choice for any of us dealing with this disease.....we just have to reach a point where things aren't going well enuff for us to want to get out of the 'funk' and proceed with something that might work. I figured I really had nothing to lose. I was right. :-) The dr was WRONG. Oink :-) SandyE~Houston On Thu, 14 Oct 2004 12:56:31 -0700 baron chat wrote: > i don't believe it takes years. the recovery window for people >who > have gotten on the right dosage and right meds that i've read about >has > been fairly small. days to weeks. one gentlemen on the > alt.support.thyroid newgroup says his wife, after starting on t3, >felt > better in 24 hours, after years of pain and suffering. > > from what i've seen and read, it looks like dosing with the meds >isn't > the hard part--it's finding the doctor who will do it. that seems >to > be where most of us seem to be spending most of our energy. it's a > shame. > > b > > > > > > > Oh geez, then even on the Armour it could take years before I get >to > > feeling any better? Not much encouragement there. > > Re: Re: Pain in arms and legs > > > > > > , > > Unfortunately I'm not at that stage yet, but a lot of others on >this > > forum have said they experienced a lessening of pain once they >were on > > their optimum dose of armour. > > I think it also depends on how long you have been hypo and > > untreated. For myself, it is a looooong time. When you have >been > > untreated for such a long time you have changes at cell level and >that > > takes a long time to reverse. Armour is not a quick fix, it >takes a > > long time to get to the correct dosage level for a start and then >it > > needs to get into the cells to be able to reverse the damage. > > Lynda (in the UK) > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 14, 2004 Report Share Posted October 14, 2004 That can very much so be a part of the problem Baron. A dr who isn't going to let you have what your body needs isn't going to get you in optimal health, regardless. They are still going to make money off the insurance, but without considering our symptoms, and then dosing...we aren't going to get better. I can't count the posts I've read who say: my dr prescribed Armour and he's going to up in 30-60 days, whatever and then they say, gosh, Armour isn't helping. I feel worse. Undermedication which is as bad as overmedication never enters their thought process is my guess. If I thought the dr's were smart enuff, after seeing 3 Endo's, I'd gladly give up self medicating and go the route of the dutiful patient. I've found however if you're dealing with a dr, you're most likely going to not get what 'our bodies' need to feel our best. I had to quit reading some of the things I was reading online because there were too many people who were just too willing to sit around and accept that this was 'their lot in life', for it to take years to get a dosage right, or to feel better? Heck, I've wasted enuff time on this disease is my feelings. If I can feel better and not have to deal with a dummie who's got MD behind his name, then they really leave me no choice. I'm too much of a rogue to put up with their lies and misinformation anymore. I have you guys to cheer me on and give me info that I need. :-) While I realize that many people don't have the heart to self medicate, and it is a personal choice for any of us dealing with this disease.....we just have to reach a point where things aren't going well enuff for us to want to get out of the 'funk' and proceed with something that might work. I figured I really had nothing to lose. I was right. :-) The dr was WRONG. Oink :-) SandyE~Houston On Thu, 14 Oct 2004 12:56:31 -0700 baron chat wrote: > i don't believe it takes years. the recovery window for people >who > have gotten on the right dosage and right meds that i've read about >has > been fairly small. days to weeks. one gentlemen on the > alt.support.thyroid newgroup says his wife, after starting on t3, >felt > better in 24 hours, after years of pain and suffering. > > from what i've seen and read, it looks like dosing with the meds >isn't > the hard part--it's finding the doctor who will do it. that seems >to > be where most of us seem to be spending most of our energy. it's a > shame. > > b > > > > > > > Oh geez, then even on the Armour it could take years before I get >to > > feeling any better? Not much encouragement there. > > Re: Re: Pain in arms and legs > > > > > > , > > Unfortunately I'm not at that stage yet, but a lot of others on >this > > forum have said they experienced a lessening of pain once they >were on > > their optimum dose of armour. > > I think it also depends on how long you have been hypo and > > untreated. For myself, it is a looooong time. When you have >been > > untreated for such a long time you have changes at cell level and >that > > takes a long time to reverse. Armour is not a quick fix, it >takes a > > long time to get to the correct dosage level for a start and then >it > > needs to get into the cells to be able to reverse the damage. > > Lynda (in the UK) > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 14, 2004 Report Share Posted October 14, 2004 Okay I'll check out the brodabarnes site. But I doubt there's any good doctors within miles of here that I won't have to drive long distances that takes hours round trip to get to. I've already checked the other doctor lists sites & there's none in this area at all. Maybe the brodabarnes site will be better at finding one. I really would do better with a good doctor that knows their stuff. I'm not very good at treating myself & then the doctor would do the frequent blood tests & test for other stuff I wouldn't have a clue about. Caroline Re: Re: Pain in arms and legs > > Caroline, while some people do have problems, I always have to remind > myself of a few things when I'm considering Armour over any other > treatment. It doesn't always take years. We all have to remember > that under a dr's care, even with Armour, without it being in a proper > dosage for us, can be like taking nothing. i wholeheartedly agree. i've been on 30mg of armour for the last 2 years, since i was diagnosed with hashimoto's and a tsh of 39. it is a woefully inadequate dose, only useful as a starting dose, and my new doctor is horrified at how undertreated i have been. she immediately upped me to 60mg but we are going to wait till my blood results come in to see if i need adrenal treatment before this. hold on, caroline. really. i am not paying you lip service when i say i understand how it feels. let's just say that for a long time, i was saving pills. i do not believe it will take years for me to get better, i expect to get better by the end of this year, if all goes well. i think you can expect that wellness is in your future with the right doctor prescribing the right treatment. get on the brodabarnes.org site and send in for a list of physicians practicing the broda barnes guidelines in your area. find a top doc. i'm done screwing around with half-bright doctors and their concrete-set ways. best, baron Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 14, 2004 Report Share Posted October 14, 2004 while you're at it, check this site out too, caroline: https://www48.safesecureweb.com/wilsonsthyroid/WTS/Default.cfm if you can't get to the link, it's the " treating physicians " menu button on wilsonsthyroidsyndrome.com if there ends up being no doctor in your vicinity it might be worth your while to drive out where the closest one is and get a motel room for the night. it'll tag on an extra, what, $49 + gas money? you're worth it. good health is worth it. baron > > Okay I'll check out the brodabarnes site. But I doubt there's any good > doctors within miles of here that I won't have to drive long distances > that takes hours round trip to get to. I've already checked the other > doctor lists sites & there's none in this area at all. Maybe the > brodabarnes site will be better at finding one. > > I really would do better with a good doctor that knows their stuff. > I'm not very good at treating myself & then the doctor would do the > frequent blood tests & test for other stuff I wouldn't have a clue > about. > Caroline > Re: Re: Pain in arms and legs > > > > > >> >> Caroline, while some people do have problems, I always have to remind >> myself of a few things when I'm considering Armour over any other >> treatment. It doesn't always take years. We all have to remember >> that under a dr's care, even with Armour, without it being in a proper >> dosage for us, can be like taking nothing. > > i wholeheartedly agree. i've been on 30mg of armour for the last 2 > years, since i was diagnosed with hashimoto's and a tsh of 39. it > is a > woefully inadequate dose, only useful as a starting dose, and my new > doctor is horrified at how undertreated i have been. she immediately > upped me to 60mg but we are going to wait till my blood results come > in > to see if i need adrenal treatment before this. > > hold on, caroline. really. i am not paying you lip service when i > say > i understand how it feels. let's just say that for a long time, i > was > saving pills. i do not believe it will take years for me to get > better, i expect to get better by the end of this year, if all goes > well. i think you can expect that wellness is in your future with > the > right doctor prescribing the right treatment. get on the > brodabarnes.org site and send in for a list of physicians practicing > the broda barnes guidelines in your area. find a top doc. i'm done > screwing around with half-bright doctors and their concrete-set ways. > > best, > baron > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 14, 2004 Report Share Posted October 14, 2004 Well sure I can self-medicate with Armour to see how it works for me. But what about the adrenals & other female hormones I'm having problems with? Plus my spinal pathologies? I think I should at least have a doctor give me blood tests for those too or maybe more stuff I'm not even aware of that a savvy doctor might think to do. Like you, tho, I've always preferred to self-medicate having become increasingly disgusted with all the doctors I've ever gone to & then not being able to find really good ones. For some things, we just have to see a doctor about tho. Low thyroid isn't my only dis-ease. One doctor years ago saw my x-rays of my lower spine & hips & diagnosed me with osteoarthritis in my right hip & entire spine. While another doctor, just recently seeing my new x-rays said there's no arthritis in that hip at all, but in the spine, yes. Yet my hip is hurting me worse than ever & I was thinking I'd need a hip replacement soon. So go figure. Re: Re: Pain in arms and legs > > > , > Unfortunately I'm not at that stage yet, but a lot of others on >this forum have said they experienced a lessening of pain once they >were on their optimum dose of armour. > I think it also depends on how long you have been hypo and >untreated. For myself, it is a looooong time. When you have been >untreated for such a long time you have changes at cell level and >that takes a long time to reverse. Armour is not a quick fix, it >takes a long time to get to the correct dosage level for a start and >then it needs to get into the cells to be able to reverse the damage. > Lynda (in the UK) > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 14, 2004 Report Share Posted October 14, 2004 Baron, I went to the broadbarnes.org site but couldn't see any place to look for a list of their nearby doctors. So I ended up sending them an email for a list. Hope to hear from them soon. caroline Re: Re: Pain in arms and legs > > Caroline, while some people do have problems, I always have to remind > myself of a few things when I'm considering Armour over any other > treatment. It doesn't always take years. We all have to remember > that under a dr's care, even with Armour, without it being in a proper > dosage for us, can be like taking nothing. i wholeheartedly agree. i've been on 30mg of armour for the last 2 years, since i was diagnosed with hashimoto's and a tsh of 39. it is a woefully inadequate dose, only useful as a starting dose, and my new doctor is horrified at how undertreated i have been. she immediately upped me to 60mg but we are going to wait till my blood results come in to see if i need adrenal treatment before this. hold on, caroline. really. i am not paying you lip service when i say i understand how it feels. let's just say that for a long time, i was saving pills. i do not believe it will take years for me to get better, i expect to get better by the end of this year, if all goes well. i think you can expect that wellness is in your future with the right doctor prescribing the right treatment. get on the brodabarnes.org site and send in for a list of physicians practicing the broda barnes guidelines in your area. find a top doc. i'm done screwing around with half-bright doctors and their concrete-set ways. best, baron Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 14, 2004 Report Share Posted October 14, 2004 caroline, i failed to mention that the list comes with the $15 information package you fax or order from them. if you live in california i will dig up my list and share it with you. i found my own doctor on the list, and i can say i'm looking forward to feeling a lot better. baron > > Baron, > I went to the broadbarnes.org site but couldn't see any place to > look for a list of their nearby doctors. So I ended up sending them an > email for a list. Hope to hear from them soon. > caroline > Re: Re: Pain in arms and legs > > > > > >> >> Caroline, while some people do have problems, I always have to remind >> myself of a few things when I'm considering Armour over any other >> treatment. It doesn't always take years. We all have to remember >> that under a dr's care, even with Armour, without it being in a proper >> dosage for us, can be like taking nothing. > > i wholeheartedly agree. i've been on 30mg of armour for the last 2 > years, since i was diagnosed with hashimoto's and a tsh of 39. it > is a > woefully inadequate dose, only useful as a starting dose, and my new > doctor is horrified at how undertreated i have been. she immediately > upped me to 60mg but we are going to wait till my blood results come > in > to see if i need adrenal treatment before this. > > hold on, caroline. really. i am not paying you lip service when i > say > i understand how it feels. let's just say that for a long time, i > was > saving pills. i do not believe it will take years for me to get > better, i expect to get better by the end of this year, if all goes > well. i think you can expect that wellness is in your future with > the > right doctor prescribing the right treatment. get on the > brodabarnes.org site and send in for a list of physicians practicing > the broda barnes guidelines in your area. find a top doc. i'm done > screwing around with half-bright doctors and their concrete-set ways. > > best, > baron > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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