Re: generally sick?

[Guest guest]

Hey Russ, I only posted it once, your computer must be spawning out clones.

Next thing you know you'll be eating Soylent Green.

Mikey

generally sick?

> Hello; Want to keep this brief and non whiney. Do

> other NF-2ers just generally feel sick in varied ways

> much of the time? The heat this summer is really

> increasing my usually 'transient' feelings of ill.

> Also, can't seem to follow threads, as the words seem

> to 'swim' so I don't concentrate so well. Can someone

> briefly condense Phils post re: his wife, forgot her

> name and didn't save it, sorry? Did I understand

> correctly she had a large frontal meningioma to be

> remove and was pretty ill. Also, I read Ms. s

> report on her death so many times. Why is such posted

> so often? I mean no offense to any one. Have good days

> ALL!

> Russ

>

> PS Yes, why are some docs so egotistical and

> rude?Especially in dealing with pretty outrageous

> things.

> Also, in the end result, it's pretty much up to the

> patient or family to choose their 'poisen'.

>

> A bad day for me. No offense intende to any one..

>

> __________________________________________________

>

[Guest guest]

ARE YOU ON DIGEST RUSS?? To help the general sick feeling, remember

garbage in garbage out. I felt that way for several years, but rarely

do now, diet has a lotto do withit. The heat doesnt help. Its

brutally hot here now, stay cool and drink lots of water.

cindy on her 2nd glass of barleygreen for the day

In NF2_Crew@y..., " Mike " <mike308@a...> wrote:

> Hey Russ, I only posted it once, your computer must be spawning out

clones.

> Next thing you know you'll be eating Soylent Green.

> Mikey

>

> generally sick?

>

>

> > Hello; Want to keep this brief and non whiney. Do

> > other NF-2ers just generally feel sick in varied ways

> > much of the time? The heat this summer is really

> > increasing my usually 'transient' feelings of ill.

> > Also, can't seem to follow threads, as the words seem

> > to 'swim' so I don't concentrate so well. Can someone

> > briefly condense Phils post re: his wife, forgot her

> > name and didn't save it, sorry? Did I understand

> > correctly she had a large frontal meningioma to be

> > remove and was pretty ill. Also, I read Ms. s

> > report on her death so many times. Why is such posted

> > so often? I mean no offense to any one. Have good days

> > ALL!

> > Russ

> >

> > PS Yes, why are some docs so egotistical and

> > rude?Especially in dealing with pretty outrageous

> > things.

> > Also, in the end result, it's pretty much up to the

> > patient or family to choose their 'poisen'.

> >

> > A bad day for me. No offense intende to any one..

> >

> > __________________________________________________

> >

[Guest guest]

Ever wondered whets really in that Barleygreen . I've read Charlton Heston

drinks it ..... do do dodo do do dodo do do dodo M do dodoooooooo

[Guest guest]

What is Barleygreen? Is this Green Tea?

Re: Re: generally sick?

Ever wondered whets really in that Barleygreen . I've read Charlton Heston

drinks it ..... do do dodo do do dodo do do dodo M do dodoooooooo

[Guest guest]

its freeze dried grass juice:) floresent green when mixed, and it doesnt

taste bad. Like chewing on a piece of grass~~Lowi the hayseed:)

Re: Re: generally sick?

> Ever wondered whets really in that Barleygreen . I've read Charlton

Heston

> drinks it ..... do do dodo do do dodo do do dodo M do dodoooooooo

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Sounds like you may be part cow or horse eating that shyt.

Mikey

Re: Re: generally sick?

>

>

> > Ever wondered whets really in that Barleygreen . I've read Charlton

> Heston

> > drinks it ..... do do dodo do do dodo do do dodo M do dodoooooooo

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

its green powder, very intense nutrition, barley grass.

Tiffney Compton wrote:

> What is Barleygreen? Is this Green Tea?

>

> Re: Re: generally sick?

>

> Ever wondered whets really in that Barleygreen . I've read Charlton Heston

> drinks it ..... do do dodo do do dodo do do dodo M do dodoooooooo

>

>

[Guest guest]

mooooooooooooo:) hahahaha its really good for you mikey:) Its a great

protien source. I think the US diet is pretty stripped of all nutrients

then laced with sugars and fake fats and artifical colors:) Soooooooo

barleygreen is something i do for me:)~~Lowi moooooooooooooo hey, great

news on the store in Saharas:) wow wow count me in for sure CC

Re: Re: generally sick?

> >

> >

> > > Ever wondered whets really in that Barleygreen . I've read Charlton

> > Heston

> > > drinks it ..... do do dodo do do dodo do do dodo M do dodoooooooo

> > >

> > >

> > >

[Guest guest]

> its freeze dried grass juice:)

YUK,enough talk about freeze dried fiber board or whatever you call it....Some PLEEEEEEEEASE pass the brownies heheheh

Lana

[Guest guest]

Subject: Re: Re: generally sick?

Do you feel you have more energy as well, or how does it help?

Sheryn

_____________________________________

> mooooooooooooo:) hahahaha its really good for you mikey:) Its a great

> protien source. I think the US diet is pretty stripped of all nutrients

> then laced with sugars and fake fats and artifical colors:) Soooooooo

> barleygreen is something i do for me:)~~Lowi moooooooooooooo hey, great

> news on the store in Saharas:) wow wow count me in for sure CC

> Re: Re: generally sick?

> > >

> > >

> > > > Ever wondered whets really in that Barleygreen . I've read Charlton

> > > Heston

> > > > drinks it ..... do do dodo do do dodo do do dodo M do dodoooooooo

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

[Guest guest]

Hi Sheryn, Barley green is toted as the perfect food, i guess you could

live on it:) It is rich in phyto chemicals associated with green vegetables

and very very high in protien:) We tend to be anemic (anemic can be to lack

things other then iron) with our stripped diets, and this is a good

supplement I think. Particularly to vegetarians and veggians. I do feel

more energy when i take it regularly. Your body assimilates it rapidly I

think because it offers things to your body that you wont get, even with a

good multi vitamin. This is a food. That is what your body is designed to

use:) Being a plant juice tho and a natural substance I recommend people

start taking a small amount at first and building up. If you dont normally

eat many vegetables you will have a reaction (gas pain, intestinal upset,

diarrhea). So go slow at the start. Too much info?? ~~Lowi

Re: Re: generally sick?

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > > Ever wondered whets really in that Barleygreen . I've read

Charlton

> > > > Heston

> > > > > drinks it ..... do do dodo do do dodo do do dodo M do dodoooooooo

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

[Guest guest]

What form is this Barleygreen, and where do you purchase it? marie

Re: Re: generally sick?

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > > Ever wondered whets really in that Barleygreen . I've read

> Charlton

> > > > > Heston

> > > > > > drinks it ..... do do dodo do do dodo do do dodo M do

dodoooooooo

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

[Guest guest]

that was a good description lorie. yes go slow because I know a few

who had adverse reactions to it at first. this was all intestinal and

just the barleygreen reacting with toxins in your system. but you

cant just drink BG and think you'll be healthy, you must drink a lot

of water, no soda (sorry for those who are pro soda/sugar, simple

truth is sugar affects us in negative ways only, ive research this

for years from dozens of sources and even with all i know i still eat

some but have cut back for most part, its a hard addiction to quit).

but yes the barleygreen can make a difference if you go about it

right. lorie, what brand do you use, AIM?

In NF2_Crew@y..., " Lori Phibbs " <lphibbs@a...> wrote:

> Hi Sheryn, Barley green is toted as the perfect food, i guess

you could

> live on it:) It is rich in phyto chemicals associated with green

vegetables

> and very very high in protien:) We tend to be anemic (anemic can be

to lack

> things other then iron) with our stripped diets, and this is a good

> supplement I think. Particularly to vegetarians and veggians. I do

feel

> more energy when i take it regularly. Your body assimilates it

rapidly I

> think because it offers things to your body that you wont get, even

with a

> good multi vitamin. This is a food. That is what your body is

designed to

> use:) Being a plant juice tho and a natural substance I recommend

people

> start taking a small amount at first and building up. If you dont

normally

> eat many vegetables you will have a reaction (gas pain, intestinal

upset,

> diarrhea). So go slow at the start. Too much info?? ~~Lowi

> Re: Re: generally sick?

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > > Ever wondered whets really in that Barleygreen . I've

read

> Charlton

> > > > > Heston

> > > > > > drinks it ..... do do dodo do do dodo do do dodo M do

dodoooooooo

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

[Guest guest]

health food store or online, AIM Barleygreen, you must read up and

drink lots of water too. I drank one glass a day for last fewyears

missing day here and there, I am now drinking 3 a day religiously and

my leg pain is easing. this is just me, im taking other supplements

(probiotics, flax fiber, digestive enzymes) too and my diet changes.

plus been juicing a lot and eating raw veggies. " drastic times call

for drastic measures " is my new motto. heres a good link:

http://www.lwoweb.com/d.cgi/barleygreen/barleygreen.htm

In NF2_Crew@y..., " Marie Drew " <mcdrew@n...> wrote:

> What form is this Barleygreen, and where do you purchase it? marie

> Re: Re: generally sick?

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > Ever wondered whets really in that Barleygreen . I've

read

> > Charlton

> > > > > > Heston

> > > > > > > drinks it ..... do do dodo do do dodo do do dodo M do

> dodoooooooo

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

[Guest guest]

it was me Russ. I dont like to preach much here because its a personal

choice and ive self educated myself and continue to, if i didnt have

nf2 Im sure id be enjoying a sugarry coffee in the morn like everyone

else. Ive never heard of glycoscience but just did a web search and it

looks interesting. as simple as i can put it is im not afraid of dying

from nf2 but i am afraid of wasting away and dieing a painful death

with pneumonia, paralyzed, unable to eat or breath or go to bathroom

myself. what does this have to do with anything? im just trying to

find the ultimate way to keep my body strong and not feed it toxins

and maybe my tumors will not grow enuf to need more surgery, but if i

do have more surgery id like to be strong enuf to bounce back. and let

me tell you, when we are young its fairly " easy " but it catches up

with you fast and when in 30's or older the surgeries bcome harder to

bounce back from, look at the stats. if i was feeling generally sick

id take a hard look at my diet and exercise level, they wont cure nf2

but cvan go a long way in making us feel better.

cindy

> Hello; I'm not sure if I had my original question

> answered about others feeling generally sick but am

> assuming others do and have found relief in various

> ways from humor to Barleygreen to elimination of

> sugar. I'm having alittle difficulty following the

> 'thread' and someone mentioned having studied sugars

> effect on the body and esp. NF-2ers. Will that person

> tell whether they have studied glycoscience nutrient

> supplements?

>

> signed; still generally sick

>

> __________________________________________________

>

[Guest guest]

Well.... have thought a great deal about your post and saw that did a

reply. I have not done any studies.....just went from trial and error. I

keep a diary years ago on what I ate (gosh it wasn't much) and found out

that almost every thing I was tough to eat was bad for me. I was in such

pain and the Doc just said it was from NF2 and wanted to put me on all kinds

of pain killers.....sorry but that is not the way I want to spend the rest

of my life.!!!

So many foods contain sugar that you wouldn't even dream of!!!!

It is a proven fact that sugar causes cancer tumors to grow. Sugar in

different forms that I never even knew about

i,e.

we were tough that a good breakfast was

Orange juice 8 oz glass Carbo

Toast or Cereal any kind Sugar Pops or Rolled Oats ....if it is made from

a grain .....its a Carbo

or say two pieces of toast Carbo

Pancakes Carbo

Biscuits Carbo

the list goes on and on

Now then lunch time arrives...

Glass of milk Carbo

Tomato Sandwich with Lettuce mmm sounds great...the only thing that is not

a Carbo is the Lettuce!!!

Supper

Potatoes Or Rice Carbo

Carrots Carbo

Peas Carbo

Meat Protein

Desert Carbo

Don't get me wrong.......I enjoy a Chocolate bar once in a while........did

you know there was less sugar in a large Chocolate bar then there is from a

handful of grapes??? Me I'll .......take the Chocolate bar before grapes

every time!

My body tells me when I have O/D'd on SUGAR. I HAVE ALL KINDS OF ACHES AND

PAINS from it.. Was even diagnosed with Fibromalgia but it was the sugar

that was causing all the pain.

If you want to find out more write me at

marniew@...

generally sick?

>Hello; I'm not sure if I had my original question

>answered about others feeling generally sick but am

>assuming others do and have found relief in various

>ways from humor to Barleygreen to elimination of

>sugar. I'm having alittle difficulty following the

>'thread' and someone mentioned having studied sugars

>effect on the body and esp. NF-2ers. Will that person

>tell whether they have studied glycoscience nutrient

>supplements?

>

>signed; still generally sick

>

>__________________________________________________

>

[Guest guest]

Yes Marnie, you're so right. Could you get together with and Lori and

compare data and write up the NF2 diet, as requested from NZ. And Marie,

your Mum is right about the lutein too...

My only concern and confusion is with the carbo in fruit and veg..I just

have to believe these are good for you. How do you balance this out?

Marnie, you are so right. ive read from knowledgable sources the sugar and

> cancer growth several times over the years. that stopped me cold in my

> tracks.

> about ... 7 years ago it was SEVERE PMS that started my quest for help. all

> my

> problems led to my sugar consumption. when i cut the sugar out of coffee i

> improved drastically. from there i just continued to read, the whole

> carb/sugar/processed food thing is facinating, the more i research the more

> amaze dd i am about the SAD (standard american diet)

>

> Marnie Wagner wrote:

>

>> Well.... have thought a great deal about your post and saw that did a

>> reply. I have not done any studies.....just went from trial and error. I

>> keep a diary years ago on what I ate (gosh it wasn't much) and found out

>> that almost every thing I was tough to eat was bad for me. I was in such

>> pain and the Doc just said it was from NF2 and wanted to put me on all kinds

>> of pain killers.....sorry but that is not the way I want to spend the rest

>> of my life.!!!

>> So many foods contain sugar that you wouldn't even dream of!!!!

>> It is a proven fact that sugar causes cancer tumors to grow. Sugar in

>> different forms that I never even knew about

>> i,e.

>> we were tough that a good breakfast was

>> Orange juice 8 oz glass Carbo

>> Toast or Cereal any kind Sugar Pops or Rolled Oats ....if it is made from

>> a grain .....its a Carbo

>> or say two pieces of toast Carbo

>> Pancakes Carbo

>> Biscuits Carbo

>> the list goes on and on

>>

>> Now then lunch time arrives...

>> Glass of milk Carbo

>> Tomato Sandwich with Lettuce mmm sounds great...the only thing that is not

>> a Carbo is the Lettuce!!!

>>

>> Supper

>> Potatoes Or Rice Carbo

>> Carrots Carbo

>> Peas Carbo

>> Meat Protein

>> Desert Carbo

>>

>> Don't get me wrong.......I enjoy a Chocolate bar once in a while........did

>> you know there was less sugar in a large Chocolate bar then there is from a

>> handful of grapes??? Me I'll .......take the Chocolate bar before grapes

>> every time!

>>

>> My body tells me when I have O/D'd on SUGAR. I HAVE ALL KINDS OF ACHES AND

>> PAINS from it.. Was even diagnosed with Fibromalgia but it was the sugar

>> that was causing all the pain.

>> If you want to find out more write me at

>> marniew@...

>>

>> generally sick?

>>

>>> Hello; I'm not sure if I had my original question

>>> answered about others feeling generally sick but am

>>> assuming others do and have found relief in various

>>> ways from humor to Barleygreen to elimination of

>>> sugar. I'm having alittle difficulty following the

>>> 'thread' and someone mentioned having studied sugars

>>> effect on the body and esp. NF-2ers. Will that person

>>> tell whether they have studied glycoscience nutrient

>>> supplements?

>>>

>>> signed; still generally sick

>>>

>>> __________________________________________________

>>>

[Guest guest]

i get the JUST BARLEY green juice brand, distributed by an outfit in Long

Beach California. I get it at a heath food store Marie. Its a green powder

you mix a rounded teaspoon to 6 oz water or juice. Mixed it is bright

green (think the potion on Rosemarys baby!!) Its not slimey tho, and tho

not what everyone is used too, i like it:) I got the big jar last time and

its $17.95 for 80 servings:) is soooooooooo right too. You need to

try to adopt a healthy lifestyle, all the suppliments in the world wont be

of help otherwise. is the one that turned me on to BG:) Thanks

Re: generally sick?

> that was a good description lorie. yes go slow because I know a few

> who had adverse reactions to it at first. this was all intestinal and

> just the barleygreen reacting with toxins in your system. but you

> cant just drink BG and think you'll be healthy, you must drink a lot

> of water, no soda (sorry for those who are pro soda/sugar, simple

> truth is sugar affects us in negative ways only, ive research this

> for years from dozens of sources and even with all i know i still eat

> some but have cut back for most part, its a hard addiction to quit).

> but yes the barleygreen can make a difference if you go about it

> right. lorie, what brand do you use, AIM?

>

>

[Guest guest]

I really think Marnie is on something with a low carb diet. Carbs burn fast

and hot and they alter your blood sugar level extremely. I have tried this

myself but im not good at what to eat. ( the Barley Green juice is .5 carb

a serving by the way) To eat less carbs its like the difference in burning

gas to deisel:) I was shocked at how good i felt. I havent kept it up tho

because im not really sure what i can eat. Also i have kids at home still

and cook for them, and i dont wanna cook something else for me?? Sugar is a

carb:) but its good:) oh well, im trying to learn~~Lowi

Re: generally sick?

>

[Guest guest]

So Marni, could you give us an example of a day's menu of what you eat?

Marie (who is trying not to think of the chocolate ice cream in the

freezer).

Re: generally sick?

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> >

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>

[Guest guest]

Marie

Go to this site and do some readingit just may open some eyes. But I know

for a fact I would have been dead long ago if I had not discovered this!!

I eat everything and anything!!!! (including ice cream)

Marnie

Re: generally sick?

>So Marni, could you give us an example of a day's menu of what you eat?

>Marie (who is trying not to think of the chocolate ice cream in the

>freezer).

> Re: generally sick?

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>>

>>

>>

[Guest guest]

opppppppppsssss forgot to add site

http://www.carbohydrateaddicts.com/

marnie

Re: generally sick?

>

>

>>So Marni, could you give us an example of a day's menu of what you eat?

>>Marie (who is trying not to think of the chocolate ice cream in the

>>freezer).

>> Re: generally sick?

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>>>

>>>

>>>

[Guest guest]

marnie, we are on the same line of thinking!

Marnie Wagner wrote:

> opppppppppsssss forgot to add site

> http://www.carbohydrateaddicts.com/

>

> marnie

> Re: generally sick?

> >

> >

> >>So Marni, could you give us an example of a day's menu of what you eat?

> >>Marie (who is trying not to think of the chocolate ice cream in the

> >>freezer).

> >> Re: generally sick?

> >>>

> >>>

> >>>

> >>> >

> >>>

> >>>

> >>>

[Guest guest]

Marnie, you are so right. ive read from knowledgable sources the sugar and

cancer growth several times over the years. that stopped me cold in my tracks.

about ... 7 years ago it was SEVERE PMS that started my quest for help. all my

problems led to my sugar consumption. when i cut the sugar out of coffee i

improved drastically. from there i just continued to read, the whole

carb/sugar/processed food thing is facinating, the more i research the more

amaze dd i am about the SAD (standard american diet)

Marnie Wagner wrote:

> Well.... have thought a great deal about your post and saw that did a

> reply. I have not done any studies.....just went from trial and error. I

> keep a diary years ago on what I ate (gosh it wasn't much) and found out

> that almost every thing I was tough to eat was bad for me. I was in such

> pain and the Doc just said it was from NF2 and wanted to put me on all kinds

> of pain killers.....sorry but that is not the way I want to spend the rest

> of my life.!!!

> So many foods contain sugar that you wouldn't even dream of!!!!

> It is a proven fact that sugar causes cancer tumors to grow. Sugar in

> different forms that I never even knew about

> i,e.

> we were tough that a good breakfast was

> Orange juice 8 oz glass Carbo

> Toast or Cereal any kind Sugar Pops or Rolled Oats ....if it is made from

> a grain .....its a Carbo

> or say two pieces of toast Carbo

> Pancakes Carbo

> Biscuits Carbo

> the list goes on and on

>

> Now then lunch time arrives...

> Glass of milk Carbo

> Tomato Sandwich with Lettuce mmm sounds great...the only thing that is not

> a Carbo is the Lettuce!!!

>

> Supper

> Potatoes Or Rice Carbo

> Carrots Carbo

> Peas Carbo

> Meat Protein

> Desert Carbo

>

> Don't get me wrong.......I enjoy a Chocolate bar once in a while........did

> you know there was less sugar in a large Chocolate bar then there is from a

> handful of grapes??? Me I'll .......take the Chocolate bar before grapes

> every time!

>

> My body tells me when I have O/D'd on SUGAR. I HAVE ALL KINDS OF ACHES AND

> PAINS from it.. Was even diagnosed with Fibromalgia but it was the sugar

> that was causing all the pain.

> If you want to find out more write me at

> marniew@...

>

> generally sick?

>

> >Hello; I'm not sure if I had my original question

> >answered about others feeling generally sick but am

> >assuming others do and have found relief in various

> >ways from humor to Barleygreen to elimination of

> >sugar. I'm having alittle difficulty following the

> >'thread' and someone mentioned having studied sugars

> >effect on the body and esp. NF-2ers. Will that person

> >tell whether they have studied glycoscience nutrient

> >supplements?

> >

> >signed; still generally sick

> >

> >__________________________________________________

> >

[Guest guest]

the veggies that are better for you are like cabbage and brussel sprouts,

broccoli, zucchini and califlower. The list is huge at the atkins site.

The starchy ones (lotsa carb and sugares) are like potatoes, carrots, peas

and corn. So you still eat lotsa veggies but you change what you serve. On

fruits best choices are all berries, rhubarb and stone fruit like cherries,

plums, nectarines and peaches. Tricky huh?? I still eat the others just

not as much~~Lowi

generally sick?

> >>

> >>> Hello; I'm not sure if I had my original question

> >>> answered about others feeling generally sick but am

> >>> assuming others do and have found relief in various

> >>> ways from humor to Barleygreen to elimination of

> >>> sugar. I'm having alittle difficulty following the

> >>> 'thread' and someone mentioned having studied sugars

> >>> effect on the body and esp. NF-2ers. Will that person

> >>> tell whether they have studied glycoscience nutrient

> >>> supplements?

> >>>

> >>> signed; still generally sick

> >>>

> >>> __________________________________________________

> >>>