Re: Formula

[Guest guest]

<<I must say that breast ISN " T always best. Nutrition wise it

is, but what is MORE important to a childs health - the food they eat OR a

happy parent? Some parents are better parents giving formula than feeling

pressured to do something they don't like - and that something includes the

one person who needs all the love and good feelings they can get.>>

I've stayed out of this too, mostly because I think it's ridiculous to have

to defend your opinion on breastmilk vs formula on a BREASTFEEDING list...

HOWEVER...

I must add that this paragraph above is not something I agree with, at all!!

The parents who " are better parents " for giving formula are misinformed,

uneducated and grossly biased by people around them. This is their reason

for not wanting to breastfeed, or feeling uncomfortable breastfeeding

ATTITUDES OF PEOPLE...I can't stress that enough...BREAST IS BEST.. there is

NO way around that whatsoever as far as I'm concerned. This is where the

education comes in, where BF in public comes in, where those of us who ARE

breastfeeding should SHOW we are breastfeeding and that we are DARN PROUD OF

IT. While I agree a happy parent is important, I feel that for at least the

first year, breastfeeding is VERY important as well.

Mom to (Oct 8/98) who breastfeeds and loves it, and I'm DARN proud of

my status as a BREASTFEEDING ONLY mother

[Guest guest]

<<I must say that breast ISN " T always best. Nutrition wise it

is, but what is MORE important to a childs health - the food they eat OR a

happy parent? Some parents are better parents giving formula than feeling

pressured to do something they don't like - and that something includes the

one person who needs all the love and good feelings they can get.>>

I've stayed out of this too, mostly because I think it's ridiculous to have

to defend your opinion on breastmilk vs formula on a BREASTFEEDING list...

HOWEVER...

I must add that this paragraph above is not something I agree with, at all!!

The parents who " are better parents " for giving formula are misinformed,

uneducated and grossly biased by people around them. This is their reason

for not wanting to breastfeed, or feeling uncomfortable breastfeeding

ATTITUDES OF PEOPLE...I can't stress that enough...BREAST IS BEST.. there is

NO way around that whatsoever as far as I'm concerned. This is where the

education comes in, where BF in public comes in, where those of us who ARE

breastfeeding should SHOW we are breastfeeding and that we are DARN PROUD OF

IT. While I agree a happy parent is important, I feel that for at least the

first year, breastfeeding is VERY important as well.

Mom to (Oct 8/98) who breastfeeds and loves it, and I'm DARN proud of

my status as a BREASTFEEDING ONLY mother

[Guest guest]

<<I must say that breast ISN " T always best. Nutrition wise it

is, but what is MORE important to a childs health - the food they eat OR a

happy parent? Some parents are better parents giving formula than feeling

pressured to do something they don't like - and that something includes the

one person who needs all the love and good feelings they can get.>>

I've stayed out of this too, mostly because I think it's ridiculous to have

to defend your opinion on breastmilk vs formula on a BREASTFEEDING list...

HOWEVER...

I must add that this paragraph above is not something I agree with, at all!!

The parents who " are better parents " for giving formula are misinformed,

uneducated and grossly biased by people around them. This is their reason

for not wanting to breastfeed, or feeling uncomfortable breastfeeding

ATTITUDES OF PEOPLE...I can't stress that enough...BREAST IS BEST.. there is

NO way around that whatsoever as far as I'm concerned. This is where the

education comes in, where BF in public comes in, where those of us who ARE

breastfeeding should SHOW we are breastfeeding and that we are DARN PROUD OF

IT. While I agree a happy parent is important, I feel that for at least the

first year, breastfeeding is VERY important as well.

Mom to (Oct 8/98) who breastfeeds and loves it, and I'm DARN proud of

my status as a BREASTFEEDING ONLY mother

[Guest guest]

Yes, what if I was unhappy having to change diapers? Should I just not do

it? Will I resent my child because I *HAVE* to do this mundane thing? We

should be willing to do all that we can for our children. And breastfeeding

is one of those things.

Jenn

-----Original Message-----

From: & Gazley

While I agree a happy parent is important, I feel that for at least the

first year, breastfeeding is VERY important as well.

[Guest guest]

Yes, what if I was unhappy having to change diapers? Should I just not do

it? Will I resent my child because I *HAVE* to do this mundane thing? We

should be willing to do all that we can for our children. And breastfeeding

is one of those things.

Jenn

-----Original Message-----

From: & Gazley

While I agree a happy parent is important, I feel that for at least the

first year, breastfeeding is VERY important as well.

[Guest guest]

Yes, what if I was unhappy having to change diapers? Should I just not do

it? Will I resent my child because I *HAVE* to do this mundane thing? We

should be willing to do all that we can for our children. And breastfeeding

is one of those things.

Jenn

-----Original Message-----

From: & Gazley

While I agree a happy parent is important, I feel that for at least the

first year, breastfeeding is VERY important as well.

[Guest guest]

Good analogy Jenn..I agree

RE: Re: Formula

Yes, what if I was unhappy having to change diapers? Should I just not do

it? Will I resent my child because I *HAVE* to do this mundane thing? We

should be willing to do all that we can for our children. And breastfeeding

is one of those things.

Jenn

-----Original Message-----

From: & Gazley

While I agree a happy parent is important, I feel that for at least the

first year, breastfeeding is VERY important as well.

Give the Gift of Life Breastfeed!

http://www.lactivist.com

[Guest guest]

Good analogy Jenn..I agree

RE: Re: Formula

Yes, what if I was unhappy having to change diapers? Should I just not do

it? Will I resent my child because I *HAVE* to do this mundane thing? We

should be willing to do all that we can for our children. And breastfeeding

is one of those things.

Jenn

-----Original Message-----

From: & Gazley

While I agree a happy parent is important, I feel that for at least the

first year, breastfeeding is VERY important as well.

Give the Gift of Life Breastfeed!

http://www.lactivist.com

[Guest guest]

Joan,

I know that one way it works is that hospitals and doctors expenses are

lowered because they receive so many supplies free from the formula

companies. The formula companies sponsor continuing medical units (required

to keep an M.D.) so that the doctors don't have to pay for their CME's and

that way the formula company can be guaranteed that the doctors are getting

the education that they (the formula companies) want the docs to have. Many

hospitals refuse to go baby friendly because they can't give up the free

formula and supplies that they receive. It is too big a part of the budget

to let it go. Doctors also make money by selling their mailing lists to

formula companies. There are numerous ways that hospitals and doctors

benefit from formula companies. Most often it is in the way of products or

savings, not actual money.

Wendi

http://www.lactivist.com

breastfeeding resources and info

Re: Formula

> I think it is laughable to ask, " is this the formula companies fault? " Of

> course it is. Big money goes into those doctors' pockets.

>

How does this work? Not just with formula, but with scripts too.

Joan

Give the Gift of Life Breastfeed!

http://www.lactivist.com

[Guest guest]

Joan,

I know that one way it works is that hospitals and doctors expenses are

lowered because they receive so many supplies free from the formula

companies. The formula companies sponsor continuing medical units (required

to keep an M.D.) so that the doctors don't have to pay for their CME's and

that way the formula company can be guaranteed that the doctors are getting

the education that they (the formula companies) want the docs to have. Many

hospitals refuse to go baby friendly because they can't give up the free

formula and supplies that they receive. It is too big a part of the budget

to let it go. Doctors also make money by selling their mailing lists to

formula companies. There are numerous ways that hospitals and doctors

benefit from formula companies. Most often it is in the way of products or

savings, not actual money.

Wendi

http://www.lactivist.com

breastfeeding resources and info

Re: Formula

> I think it is laughable to ask, " is this the formula companies fault? " Of

> course it is. Big money goes into those doctors' pockets.

>

How does this work? Not just with formula, but with scripts too.

Joan

Give the Gift of Life Breastfeed!

http://www.lactivist.com

[Guest guest]

Joan,

I know that one way it works is that hospitals and doctors expenses are

lowered because they receive so many supplies free from the formula

companies. The formula companies sponsor continuing medical units (required

to keep an M.D.) so that the doctors don't have to pay for their CME's and

that way the formula company can be guaranteed that the doctors are getting

the education that they (the formula companies) want the docs to have. Many

hospitals refuse to go baby friendly because they can't give up the free

formula and supplies that they receive. It is too big a part of the budget

to let it go. Doctors also make money by selling their mailing lists to

formula companies. There are numerous ways that hospitals and doctors

benefit from formula companies. Most often it is in the way of products or

savings, not actual money.

Wendi

http://www.lactivist.com

breastfeeding resources and info

Re: Formula

> I think it is laughable to ask, " is this the formula companies fault? " Of

> course it is. Big money goes into those doctors' pockets.

>

How does this work? Not just with formula, but with scripts too.

Joan

Give the Gift of Life Breastfeed!

http://www.lactivist.com

[Guest guest]

IMHO This is child abuse. I do realize that a lot of the discipline methods

used when we were children, and our parents were children, would be

considered as such but this is not a fair comparison to formula feeding. I

would never go so far as to call FF child abuse.

Jenn

-----Original Message-----

From: All About Babies

I am not saying it is right or wrong, but yes - some parents DO resent

changing diapers and DO take it out on the children. My mother was tied to

the toilet at 3 months of age because her mom didn't like changing diapers.

[Guest guest]

IMHO This is child abuse. I do realize that a lot of the discipline methods

used when we were children, and our parents were children, would be

considered as such but this is not a fair comparison to formula feeding. I

would never go so far as to call FF child abuse.

Jenn

-----Original Message-----

From: All About Babies

I am not saying it is right or wrong, but yes - some parents DO resent

changing diapers and DO take it out on the children. My mother was tied to

the toilet at 3 months of age because her mom didn't like changing diapers.

[Guest guest]

IMHO This is child abuse. I do realize that a lot of the discipline methods

used when we were children, and our parents were children, would be

considered as such but this is not a fair comparison to formula feeding. I

would never go so far as to call FF child abuse.

Jenn

-----Original Message-----

From: All About Babies

I am not saying it is right or wrong, but yes - some parents DO resent

changing diapers and DO take it out on the children. My mother was tied to

the toilet at 3 months of age because her mom didn't like changing diapers.

[Guest guest]

I am not saying it is right or wrong, but yes - some parents DO resent

changing diapers and DO take it out on the children. My mother was tied to

the toilet at 3 months of age because her mom didn't like changing diapers.

Its a special mark that you are " choosing " to breastfeed your child because

that is the best and you are willing to do it and most likely enjoy it. Its

also good that you are choosing to change diapers too....the alternatives

aren't pleasant!

Personally I love nursing and honestly? I like changing diapers too! That

is until they hit the " rely solely on solids " stage....PHEW!

Simply pointing out that there are 2 feeding choices and since a baby MUST

eat, the mom should make the choice that gives her the most peace of mind.

There are 2 diapering choices too.....are we who choose the simplicity and

ease of disposables to be condemned by those who choose the environmentally

sound cloth? Am I any " lazier " ? Perhaps so....but my mind is at ease by

choosing the faster, cleaner, less hassle method. (Remember, I am

pro-breastfeeding and to me that is faster cleaner, less hassle - but not

all moms feel that way!)

Dawn and my 3 sons

Ethan Adnan (8-25-00, 13 days old. 5 weeks early, CHD-VSD)

Elijah Iman (7-2-99, 14 months), Ibrahim Jerry (9-10-97, 3 years on Sunday)

*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*My Angels*^*^*^*^*^*^*^

Kiara Nichole (born still at 21 weeks) and (5-16-96 - 22

weeks, gained her wings 15 hours later)

2m/c angels

*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*

RE: Re: Formula

>

> Yes, what if I was unhappy having to change diapers? Should I just not do

> it? Will I resent my child because I *HAVE* to do this mundane thing? We

> should be willing to do all that we can for our children. And

breastfeeding

> is one of those things.

> Jenn

>

>

> -----Original Message-----

> From: & Gazley

>

> While I agree a happy parent is important, I feel that for at least the

> first year, breastfeeding is VERY important as well.

>

>

> Give the Gift of Life Breastfeed!

> http://www.lactivist.com

>

>

[Guest guest]

I am not saying it is right or wrong, but yes - some parents DO resent

changing diapers and DO take it out on the children. My mother was tied to

the toilet at 3 months of age because her mom didn't like changing diapers.

Its a special mark that you are " choosing " to breastfeed your child because

that is the best and you are willing to do it and most likely enjoy it. Its

also good that you are choosing to change diapers too....the alternatives

aren't pleasant!

Personally I love nursing and honestly? I like changing diapers too! That

is until they hit the " rely solely on solids " stage....PHEW!

Simply pointing out that there are 2 feeding choices and since a baby MUST

eat, the mom should make the choice that gives her the most peace of mind.

There are 2 diapering choices too.....are we who choose the simplicity and

ease of disposables to be condemned by those who choose the environmentally

sound cloth? Am I any " lazier " ? Perhaps so....but my mind is at ease by

choosing the faster, cleaner, less hassle method. (Remember, I am

pro-breastfeeding and to me that is faster cleaner, less hassle - but not

all moms feel that way!)

Dawn and my 3 sons

Ethan Adnan (8-25-00, 13 days old. 5 weeks early, CHD-VSD)

Elijah Iman (7-2-99, 14 months), Ibrahim Jerry (9-10-97, 3 years on Sunday)

*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*My Angels*^*^*^*^*^*^*^

Kiara Nichole (born still at 21 weeks) and (5-16-96 - 22

weeks, gained her wings 15 hours later)

2m/c angels

*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*

RE: Re: Formula

>

> Yes, what if I was unhappy having to change diapers? Should I just not do

> it? Will I resent my child because I *HAVE* to do this mundane thing? We

> should be willing to do all that we can for our children. And

breastfeeding

> is one of those things.

> Jenn

>

>

> -----Original Message-----

> From: & Gazley

>

> While I agree a happy parent is important, I feel that for at least the

> first year, breastfeeding is VERY important as well.

>

>

> Give the Gift of Life Breastfeed!

> http://www.lactivist.com

>

>

[Guest guest]

I am not saying it is right or wrong, but yes - some parents DO resent

changing diapers and DO take it out on the children. My mother was tied to

the toilet at 3 months of age because her mom didn't like changing diapers.

Its a special mark that you are " choosing " to breastfeed your child because

that is the best and you are willing to do it and most likely enjoy it. Its

also good that you are choosing to change diapers too....the alternatives

aren't pleasant!

Personally I love nursing and honestly? I like changing diapers too! That

is until they hit the " rely solely on solids " stage....PHEW!

Simply pointing out that there are 2 feeding choices and since a baby MUST

eat, the mom should make the choice that gives her the most peace of mind.

There are 2 diapering choices too.....are we who choose the simplicity and

ease of disposables to be condemned by those who choose the environmentally

sound cloth? Am I any " lazier " ? Perhaps so....but my mind is at ease by

choosing the faster, cleaner, less hassle method. (Remember, I am

pro-breastfeeding and to me that is faster cleaner, less hassle - but not

all moms feel that way!)

Dawn and my 3 sons

Ethan Adnan (8-25-00, 13 days old. 5 weeks early, CHD-VSD)

Elijah Iman (7-2-99, 14 months), Ibrahim Jerry (9-10-97, 3 years on Sunday)

*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*My Angels*^*^*^*^*^*^*^

Kiara Nichole (born still at 21 weeks) and (5-16-96 - 22

weeks, gained her wings 15 hours later)

2m/c angels

*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*

RE: Re: Formula

>

> Yes, what if I was unhappy having to change diapers? Should I just not do

> it? Will I resent my child because I *HAVE* to do this mundane thing? We

> should be willing to do all that we can for our children. And

breastfeeding

> is one of those things.

> Jenn

>

>

> -----Original Message-----

> From: & Gazley

>

> While I agree a happy parent is important, I feel that for at least the

> first year, breastfeeding is VERY important as well.

>

>

> Give the Gift of Life Breastfeed!

> http://www.lactivist.com

>

>

[Guest guest]

yes yes, I do to. But we must keep this all in perspective. Breast is

Best, and formula is second to all the rest. I do agree that the vast

majority of sole-formula feeders are misinformed and misguided. They fear

the pain of nursing, the scorn of nursing in public, the need for special

clothes. But *I* know these are all easyily corrected. To long has the

thought that babies and bottles go hand in hand, we buy our daughters (and

I, my sons) baby dolls with bottles! Well, oldest is daddy to Po and nurses

him! And yet my 2nd child is a bottle baby to the max. Was, I should say.

But while breastmilk is undoubtably the best nutritionwise, formula is NOT

poisonus! It does NOT kill, it is NOT drugged - it just

doesn't......measure up. It is lacking. But rather than focus on

browbeating formula feeders who most likely KNOW they aren't giving the very

best (do you browbeat a child who is learning the potty, when they have an

accident? No...they know its wrong already), lets focus our attentions on

the parenting activities that ARE dangerous - smoking for example.

Just like some of the people on this list give at least SOME formula in

addition to nursing, I wonder just how many smoke as well. I say - WHO

CARES who is giving formula and who doesn't? To each his own!

Dawn and my 3 sons

Ethan Adnan (8-25-00, 13 days old. 5 weeks early, CHD-VSD)

Elijah Iman (7-2-99, 14 months), Ibrahim Jerry (9-10-97, 3 years on Sunday)

*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*My Angels*^*^*^*^*^*^*^

Kiara Nichole (born still at 21 weeks) and (5-16-96 - 22

weeks, gained her wings 15 hours later)

2m/c angels

*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*

RE: Re: Formula

>

> <<I must say that breast ISN " T always best. Nutrition wise it

> is, but what is MORE important to a childs health - the food they eat OR a

> happy parent? Some parents are better parents giving formula than feeling

> pressured to do something they don't like - and that something includes

the

> one person who needs all the love and good feelings they can get.>>

>

> I've stayed out of this too, mostly because I think it's ridiculous to

have

> to defend your opinion on breastmilk vs formula on a BREASTFEEDING list...

>

> HOWEVER...

>

> I must add that this paragraph above is not something I agree with, at

all!!

>

> The parents who " are better parents " for giving formula are misinformed,

> uneducated and grossly biased by people around them. This is their reason

> for not wanting to breastfeed, or feeling uncomfortable breastfeeding

> ATTITUDES OF PEOPLE...I can't stress that enough...BREAST IS BEST.. there

is

> NO way around that whatsoever as far as I'm concerned. This is where the

> education comes in, where BF in public comes in, where those of us who ARE

> breastfeeding should SHOW we are breastfeeding and that we are DARN PROUD

OF

> IT. While I agree a happy parent is important, I feel that for at least

the

> first year, breastfeeding is VERY important as well.

>

>

> Mom to (Oct 8/98) who breastfeeds and loves it, and I'm DARN proud

of

> my status as a BREASTFEEDING ONLY mother

>

>

> Give the Gift of Life Breastfeed!

> http://www.lactivist.com

>

>

[Guest guest]

yes yes, I do to. But we must keep this all in perspective. Breast is

Best, and formula is second to all the rest. I do agree that the vast

majority of sole-formula feeders are misinformed and misguided. They fear

the pain of nursing, the scorn of nursing in public, the need for special

clothes. But *I* know these are all easyily corrected. To long has the

thought that babies and bottles go hand in hand, we buy our daughters (and

I, my sons) baby dolls with bottles! Well, oldest is daddy to Po and nurses

him! And yet my 2nd child is a bottle baby to the max. Was, I should say.

But while breastmilk is undoubtably the best nutritionwise, formula is NOT

poisonus! It does NOT kill, it is NOT drugged - it just

doesn't......measure up. It is lacking. But rather than focus on

browbeating formula feeders who most likely KNOW they aren't giving the very

best (do you browbeat a child who is learning the potty, when they have an

accident? No...they know its wrong already), lets focus our attentions on

the parenting activities that ARE dangerous - smoking for example.

Just like some of the people on this list give at least SOME formula in

addition to nursing, I wonder just how many smoke as well. I say - WHO

CARES who is giving formula and who doesn't? To each his own!

Dawn and my 3 sons

Ethan Adnan (8-25-00, 13 days old. 5 weeks early, CHD-VSD)

Elijah Iman (7-2-99, 14 months), Ibrahim Jerry (9-10-97, 3 years on Sunday)

*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*My Angels*^*^*^*^*^*^*^

Kiara Nichole (born still at 21 weeks) and (5-16-96 - 22

weeks, gained her wings 15 hours later)

2m/c angels

*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*

RE: Re: Formula

>

> <<I must say that breast ISN " T always best. Nutrition wise it

> is, but what is MORE important to a childs health - the food they eat OR a

> happy parent? Some parents are better parents giving formula than feeling

> pressured to do something they don't like - and that something includes

the

> one person who needs all the love and good feelings they can get.>>

>

> I've stayed out of this too, mostly because I think it's ridiculous to

have

> to defend your opinion on breastmilk vs formula on a BREASTFEEDING list...

>

> HOWEVER...

>

> I must add that this paragraph above is not something I agree with, at

all!!

>

> The parents who " are better parents " for giving formula are misinformed,

> uneducated and grossly biased by people around them. This is their reason

> for not wanting to breastfeed, or feeling uncomfortable breastfeeding

> ATTITUDES OF PEOPLE...I can't stress that enough...BREAST IS BEST.. there

is

> NO way around that whatsoever as far as I'm concerned. This is where the

> education comes in, where BF in public comes in, where those of us who ARE

> breastfeeding should SHOW we are breastfeeding and that we are DARN PROUD

OF

> IT. While I agree a happy parent is important, I feel that for at least

the

> first year, breastfeeding is VERY important as well.

>

>

> Mom to (Oct 8/98) who breastfeeds and loves it, and I'm DARN proud

of

> my status as a BREASTFEEDING ONLY mother

>

>

> Give the Gift of Life Breastfeed!

> http://www.lactivist.com

>

>

[Guest guest]

yes yes, I do to. But we must keep this all in perspective. Breast is

Best, and formula is second to all the rest. I do agree that the vast

majority of sole-formula feeders are misinformed and misguided. They fear

the pain of nursing, the scorn of nursing in public, the need for special

clothes. But *I* know these are all easyily corrected. To long has the

thought that babies and bottles go hand in hand, we buy our daughters (and

I, my sons) baby dolls with bottles! Well, oldest is daddy to Po and nurses

him! And yet my 2nd child is a bottle baby to the max. Was, I should say.

But while breastmilk is undoubtably the best nutritionwise, formula is NOT

poisonus! It does NOT kill, it is NOT drugged - it just

doesn't......measure up. It is lacking. But rather than focus on

browbeating formula feeders who most likely KNOW they aren't giving the very

best (do you browbeat a child who is learning the potty, when they have an

accident? No...they know its wrong already), lets focus our attentions on

the parenting activities that ARE dangerous - smoking for example.

Just like some of the people on this list give at least SOME formula in

addition to nursing, I wonder just how many smoke as well. I say - WHO

CARES who is giving formula and who doesn't? To each his own!

Dawn and my 3 sons

Ethan Adnan (8-25-00, 13 days old. 5 weeks early, CHD-VSD)

Elijah Iman (7-2-99, 14 months), Ibrahim Jerry (9-10-97, 3 years on Sunday)

*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*My Angels*^*^*^*^*^*^*^

Kiara Nichole (born still at 21 weeks) and (5-16-96 - 22

weeks, gained her wings 15 hours later)

2m/c angels

*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*

RE: Re: Formula

>

> <<I must say that breast ISN " T always best. Nutrition wise it

> is, but what is MORE important to a childs health - the food they eat OR a

> happy parent? Some parents are better parents giving formula than feeling

> pressured to do something they don't like - and that something includes

the

> one person who needs all the love and good feelings they can get.>>

>

> I've stayed out of this too, mostly because I think it's ridiculous to

have

> to defend your opinion on breastmilk vs formula on a BREASTFEEDING list...

>

> HOWEVER...

>

> I must add that this paragraph above is not something I agree with, at

all!!

>

> The parents who " are better parents " for giving formula are misinformed,

> uneducated and grossly biased by people around them. This is their reason

> for not wanting to breastfeed, or feeling uncomfortable breastfeeding

> ATTITUDES OF PEOPLE...I can't stress that enough...BREAST IS BEST.. there

is

> NO way around that whatsoever as far as I'm concerned. This is where the

> education comes in, where BF in public comes in, where those of us who ARE

> breastfeeding should SHOW we are breastfeeding and that we are DARN PROUD

OF

> IT. While I agree a happy parent is important, I feel that for at least

the

> first year, breastfeeding is VERY important as well.

>

>

> Mom to (Oct 8/98) who breastfeeds and loves it, and I'm DARN proud

of

> my status as a BREASTFEEDING ONLY mother

>

>

> Give the Gift of Life Breastfeed!

> http://www.lactivist.com

>

>

[Guest guest]

This is lack of education on the doctor's part. There is no need to

supplement. Matter of fact, the more you supplement the sooner you

will lose your milk supply. It's impossible to pump as much milk as

what the baby can get while nursing.

I would try nursing on one breast per each 3 hour time period. Also,

nurse on demand...even if it's every hour. The baby isn't gaining

because it's not getting all the fatty hindmilk. Also, babies gain

weight at their own pace. They all don't have to be in the 50% or

higher.

Also, find yourself some Mother's Milk tea and use as directed. This

helps wonderfully for upping milk supply.

Joanna

> OK Now tell me just what are you supposed to do if your baby is

not gaining

> enough weight on breastmilk alone??? I *just* came from the

Lactation Center

> and Then the Peds office, My daughter has not gained ANY weight in

a month,

> the LC sent me upstairs to my ped office, They are having me

supplement with

> formula after 2 feedings a day while I try to boost my milk supply

by pumping

> after each feeding, along with a few other things to try to keep

her at the

> breast longer, the supplementing is only temporary, my ped and I

are both

> dedicated to make sure this does not end our nursing. What would

You have me

> do? let my baby continue to not gain?? Let her starve because I am

apparently

> not producing enough, obviously I need to booost my milk supply,

but in the

> meantime?? I joined this list for breastfeeding support and now I

feel like I

> am being flamed for using formula too. Maybe I just don't belong

here,

> I breastfeed yes, that was my decision....but who am I to tell

someone else

> *they* are wrong to not breastfeed, I said it before and I'll say

it again.

> We expect people to respect our choice to breastfeed, we should do

the same

> for those who do not. Yes we should *encourage* women to BF, but

not condem

> them for not making the same choice we did.

>

>

> -Llanda

> Mommy to 4/4/2000

> " I am in shape. Round is a shape. "

[Guest guest]

This is lack of education on the doctor's part. There is no need to

supplement. Matter of fact, the more you supplement the sooner you

will lose your milk supply. It's impossible to pump as much milk as

what the baby can get while nursing.

I would try nursing on one breast per each 3 hour time period. Also,

nurse on demand...even if it's every hour. The baby isn't gaining

because it's not getting all the fatty hindmilk. Also, babies gain

weight at their own pace. They all don't have to be in the 50% or

higher.

Also, find yourself some Mother's Milk tea and use as directed. This

helps wonderfully for upping milk supply.

Joanna

> OK Now tell me just what are you supposed to do if your baby is

not gaining

> enough weight on breastmilk alone??? I *just* came from the

Lactation Center

> and Then the Peds office, My daughter has not gained ANY weight in

a month,

> the LC sent me upstairs to my ped office, They are having me

supplement with

> formula after 2 feedings a day while I try to boost my milk supply

by pumping

> after each feeding, along with a few other things to try to keep

her at the

> breast longer, the supplementing is only temporary, my ped and I

are both

> dedicated to make sure this does not end our nursing. What would

You have me

> do? let my baby continue to not gain?? Let her starve because I am

apparently

> not producing enough, obviously I need to booost my milk supply,

but in the

> meantime?? I joined this list for breastfeeding support and now I

feel like I

> am being flamed for using formula too. Maybe I just don't belong

here,

> I breastfeed yes, that was my decision....but who am I to tell

someone else

> *they* are wrong to not breastfeed, I said it before and I'll say

it again.

> We expect people to respect our choice to breastfeed, we should do

the same

> for those who do not. Yes we should *encourage* women to BF, but

not condem

> them for not making the same choice we did.

>

>

> -Llanda

> Mommy to 4/4/2000

> " I am in shape. Round is a shape. "

[Guest guest]

This is lack of education on the doctor's part. There is no need to

supplement. Matter of fact, the more you supplement the sooner you

will lose your milk supply. It's impossible to pump as much milk as

what the baby can get while nursing.

I would try nursing on one breast per each 3 hour time period. Also,

nurse on demand...even if it's every hour. The baby isn't gaining

because it's not getting all the fatty hindmilk. Also, babies gain

weight at their own pace. They all don't have to be in the 50% or

higher.

Also, find yourself some Mother's Milk tea and use as directed. This

helps wonderfully for upping milk supply.

Joanna

> OK Now tell me just what are you supposed to do if your baby is

not gaining

> enough weight on breastmilk alone??? I *just* came from the

Lactation Center

> and Then the Peds office, My daughter has not gained ANY weight in

a month,

> the LC sent me upstairs to my ped office, They are having me

supplement with

> formula after 2 feedings a day while I try to boost my milk supply

by pumping

> after each feeding, along with a few other things to try to keep

her at the

> breast longer, the supplementing is only temporary, my ped and I

are both

> dedicated to make sure this does not end our nursing. What would

You have me

> do? let my baby continue to not gain?? Let her starve because I am

apparently

> not producing enough, obviously I need to booost my milk supply,

but in the

> meantime?? I joined this list for breastfeeding support and now I

feel like I

> am being flamed for using formula too. Maybe I just don't belong

here,

> I breastfeed yes, that was my decision....but who am I to tell

someone else

> *they* are wrong to not breastfeed, I said it before and I'll say

it again.

> We expect people to respect our choice to breastfeed, we should do

the same

> for those who do not. Yes we should *encourage* women to BF, but

not condem

> them for not making the same choice we did.

>

>

> -Llanda

> Mommy to 4/4/2000

> " I am in shape. Round is a shape. "

[Guest guest]

I was thinking along these lines last night. On Nick At Night the

main sponser is Carnation Good Start. I told Dh that I couldn't

figure out why not one person will pay for some kind of pro-

breastfeeding ad. I'm sick of seeing a formula commercial 10 plus

times in a matter of 3-4 hours! Even most LLL groups don't do

anything to get the word out. They usually support those

breastfeeding but don't try to get people to breastfeed.

Joanna

> I don't know what other states may be doing, but Oregon has

these " The More

> You Know " commericials. They are geared towards teens and drugs

and things,

> but why can't SOMEONE (preferably formula companies!) sponsor this

type of

> commericial for breastfeeding?

[Guest guest]

I was thinking along these lines last night. On Nick At Night the

main sponser is Carnation Good Start. I told Dh that I couldn't

figure out why not one person will pay for some kind of pro-

breastfeeding ad. I'm sick of seeing a formula commercial 10 plus

times in a matter of 3-4 hours! Even most LLL groups don't do

anything to get the word out. They usually support those

breastfeeding but don't try to get people to breastfeed.

Joanna

> I don't know what other states may be doing, but Oregon has

these " The More

> You Know " commericials. They are geared towards teens and drugs

and things,

> but why can't SOMEONE (preferably formula companies!) sponsor this

type of

> commericial for breastfeeding?