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In a message dated 1/10/03 2:54:51 PM Pacific Standard Time,

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> I have been off tx for almost 2 years now, still have been undetected

> as off Sept. Praise God!! My question is I have been having some

> sharp pains in my right side under my rib cage, I was thinking it was

> my liver but my best friend says that your internal organs have no

> feeling. Is this true? If anyone knows the answer I would appreciate

> it as if it is my liver I will need to go back to dr.

>

I would like to know too as I get pains there too, and assumed it was the

meds working on my liver.

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Debi, that's where your gall bladder is. You may want to have it checked out.

My sister never had gallstones, but her gall bladder became inflamed, and she

felt the pain you are talking about. Hers was removed, but when my mother had

the same thing a couple of years later, she didn't do anything about it. Hers

became infected and she had a real problem.

Don't know if it's the same thing, but it's not necessarily your liver.

Marilyn

Pain in Right Side

I have been off tx for almost 2 years now, still have been undetected

as off Sept. Praise God!! My question is I have been having some

sharp pains in my right side under my rib cage, I was thinking it was

my liver but my best friend says that your internal organs have no

feeling. Is this true? If anyone knows the answer I would appreciate

it as if it is my liver I will need to go back to dr.

*****To all you new people who are starting tx or just started, Keep

your faith, it may get rough during all this, but for me it was worth

it. You are all in my thoughts and prayers daily. If there is

anything I can help anyone with, do not hesitate to ask. We are all

in this together!!!

Debi

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Debi, Are you still drinking enough water? I live in the desert and

need to drink water all the time. A couple of years ago I allowed

myself to get dehydrated and developed a rather large kindey stone.

I had a lot of pain in my right side under my ribs. Have you noticed

blood in your urine? The liver does not feel pain but the lining

will if irriated or if there is swelling.

Glenn

> I have been off tx for almost 2 years now, still have been

undetected

> as off Sept. Praise God!! My question is I have been having some

> sharp pains in my right side under my rib cage, I was thinking it

was

> my liver but my best friend says that your internal organs have no

> feeling. Is this true? If anyone knows the answer I would

appreciate

> it as if it is my liver I will need to go back to dr.

> *****To all you new people who are starting tx or just started,

Keep

> your faith, it may get rough during all this, but for me it was

worth

> it. You are all in my thoughts and prayers daily. If there is

> anything I can help anyone with, do not hesitate to ask. We are all

> in this together!!!

>

> Debi

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I'm a RN and I was taught there was no pain from the liver...but.....I

have liver pain and even spasms from the liver....the gastro doctor

said....he couldn't explain it....there's not suppose to be pain but

most people with chronic hep c complain of liver pain. He says it's like

a person with a limb removed and they feel pain....real pain...yet

there's no scientific data to back it up. I have spasms from the liver

all the way up into my neck that are very painful and lasts about 10

minutes. At first all doctors said gallstones, gallbladder problems but

all gallbladder tests repeatedly come back normal and no stones. The

gastro doctor thinks it is from the ports where blood enters and leaves

the liver....there is much fibrosis there that might cause constriction

and spasms...no one knows for sure....judy.

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Debi.....that is the same area you would feel gallbladder problems...or

even a duodenal ulcer. It's at the place where the stomach empties into

the small intestine. Does anything relieve the pain, antacids, eating,

etc?....judy

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My pain has been on the right side. I started taking 1/1, (1/2 tsp egg shell

calcium to 65 mg magnesium) and it was worse, so I took 2/2 ( 1/2 tsp escal to

130 mg mag) and it was even worse yet! So, I asked you what you take and you

said that you took less calcium than magnesium. I cannot remember the amounts

any more. I then cut the calcium in half to 1/4 tsp egg shell calcium to 130 mg

magnesium, (1, 65 mg morning and 1, 65 mg night). I am so much better, but

still have a slight leg pain on the left side (calcium side) and slight pain on

the right (magnesium side) I am trying to decide if I need to go down on the

two or up. Have you any thoughts?

Does this diet help someone with diebetes? My friend has it and is going down

hill fast.

What is the exact address to tell someone to find this website. I googled the

first time to find you, bookmarked and now cannot tell anyone how to find this.

Thank you all,

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Debby, you need some good luck. Aren't you supposed to leave for Italy in a

couple of weeks?

Harper

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I have a continual pain in my right side, but am beginning to believe it is from

the staples or metal clip that the surgeon used to when he removed my gall

bladder. Apparently, when you have abdomal surgery, they leave the clips

inside. That is the only thing I can figure. My GI, however, thinks it could

be a gall stone that occasionally gets caught in a duct. Yet, she won't go in

and see what it is until the pain is intollerable.

Debby

[ ] Pain in right side

Someone said that the liver doesn't have nerve endings to cause pain,

but pain can be caused by the stretching of the liver capsule, from

swelling. (I was reading an article about liver tumors and one of the

symptoms was pain in the right side.) So there are many causes for pain

in the right side it seems.

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Yes, we are leaving the 9th! Cannot wait! It will be trip of a lifetime! I

have my little card to show to the waiters and I am encouraged by the resonses

of people who have been to Italy with CD. I will miss the breads, but there is

much else that is healthier that I will be eating! I am taking my trail mixes

with me. There will be plenty of fruits and veges....so I am not worried.

HOWEVER, I am very encouraged by my latest labs. My alt and ast are not rising

dramatically, and now have been normal range for the past three months. The

bilirubin ones are somewhat elevated, but so far, I guess I am hanging in there

with staying off the 6MP. For the next 6 days, I am on prednisone to clear up a

bad sinus/chest thing, so that will keep the inflammation down. As of now, I am

holding my own. Hopefully, things will all level off and go back to normal.

Actually, I am thinking that my body is trying to readjust to life without the

meds! It is going to be interesting to see how long they last....or even if

they ever go up. This is the FIRST time, I have really allowed myself to

believe that I just might be one of the lucky ones to go into remission.

So, even though I have pain, I am off and running. Perhaps, I have just been

too worried about all of this liver problelm. Maybe I am just going to sit back

and enjoy life!

Ciao...I think that is how you say it!

Debby

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Debby, you need some good luck. Aren't you supposed to leave for Italy in a

couple of weeks?

Harper

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Debby,

The pain that you're describing could've been caused by a clip that was left

inside but I tend

to think that it's more likely to be something else. I have frequent pain in

the area of the liver

(which I know is enlarged). This pain occurs while up sitting up or lying

down. Then when I try to rest, l prefer to lay on my right side. I use a variety

of pillows to cushion the area even more because both the liver & the rib that I

fractured a few months ago hurt. It's quite

an ordeal & I feel like the " Princess & the Pea " . With taking diurectics, I

have to go through

the whole ordeal every time I need to go to the bathroom.

Anxious to see my Gastro tommorow. I want to discuss this & the itching. The

meds help but not enough. My labs show an increased bili - from 4.9 to 6.5 in

three months time.

tdcc2000@... wrote:

I have a continual pain in my right side, but am beginning to believe

it is from the staples or metal clip that the surgeon used to when he removed my

gall bladder. Apparently, when you have abdomal surgery, they leave the clips

inside. That is the only thing I can figure. My GI, however, thinks it could be

a gall stone that occasionally gets caught in a duct. Yet, she won't go in and

see what it is until the pain is intollerable.

Debby

[ ] Pain in right side

Someone said that the liver doesn't have nerve endings to cause pain,

but pain can be caused by the stretching of the liver capsule, from

swelling. (I was reading an article about liver tumors and one of the

symptoms was pain in the right side.) So there are many causes for pain

in the right side it seems.

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I really don't know what the pain is...I just know it is around my

liver....until it gets so bad that the pain in unbearable (a long way from

that), i put up with it....just figure it is unique to my own person! LOL.

Keep us posted on what your Gastro says

Debby

[ ] Pain in right side

Someone said that the liver doesn't have nerve endings to cause pain,

but pain can be caused by the stretching of the liver capsule, from

swelling. (I was reading an article about liver tumors and one of the

symptoms was pain in the right side.) So there are many causes for pain

in the right side it seems.

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Beth,

I have right hip pain all the time. Not sure why only that side. I

have had an MRI, x-ray and PT and nothing helps. Other than that I

have aches in pains on various parts of my body that come and go

without explanation.

I am so sorry you are dealing with this. I am hoping with detox and

time my hip pain will someday go away.

Love, Lynn

>

> Just wondering if anyone has any idea as to why my right arm and leg

> are hurting so bad. I have had little episodes of this going on now

for

> a few months. However, since explant, it seemed to go away. I had

> some testing done yesterday at a ND office but none of it should have

> caused this. It feels like a combo of joint pain and muscle pain.

It

> only seems to be in my right side - I do not notice it much, if at

all

> in my left side. Any ideas????

>

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Beth,

I have right hip pain all the time. Not sure why only that side. I

have had an MRI, x-ray and PT and nothing helps. Other than that I

have aches in pains on various parts of my body that come and go

without explanation.

I am so sorry you are dealing with this. I am hoping with detox and

time my hip pain will someday go away.

Love, Lynn

>

> Just wondering if anyone has any idea as to why my right arm and leg

> are hurting so bad. I have had little episodes of this going on now

for

> a few months. However, since explant, it seemed to go away. I had

> some testing done yesterday at a ND office but none of it should have

> caused this. It feels like a combo of joint pain and muscle pain.

It

> only seems to be in my right side - I do not notice it much, if at

all

> in my left side. Any ideas????

>

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Lynn,

Patty put all the messages on my computer because I am having trouble

with bouncing to reply messages. But I have an idea for the pain that

I have used Arnica Montana 30X its homeopathic medicine. It really

helped me. I have been explanted for 2 years going on 3 in JUne. I

have come along way. I hope this helps.

LOve in Ohio

> >

> > Just wondering if anyone has any idea as to why my right arm and

leg

> > are hurting so bad. I have had little episodes of this going on

now

> for

> > a few months. However, since explant, it seemed to go away. I

had

> > some testing done yesterday at a ND office but none of it should

have

> > caused this. It feels like a combo of joint pain and muscle

pain.

> It

> > only seems to be in my right side - I do not notice it much, if

at

> all

> > in my left side. Any ideas????

> >

>

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Beth ~

Do you sleep on one side more than the other?

Or hold your little one on one side more?

Hugs DedeStart the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape in the new year.

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Lynn,

I use Arnica Montana 30x but I found Something a little stronger in the homeopathic medicine its called Pain Relief made by NatraBio 60 tablets for $7.99 and works. My husband needed something strong for headaches and muscle aches. So this is what I came up with and he is very happy with it along with myself.

loveya,

in Ohio

In a message dated 1/17/2008 8:01:55 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, spinkscl@... writes:

Thank you ! I have taken this pre-explant, Dr. Huang recommended it. I will give it a try for the pain. Thank you! Lynn> > >> > > Just wondering if anyone has any idea as to why my right arm and > leg > > > are hurting so bad. I have had little episodes of this going on > now > > for > > > a few months. However, since explant, it seemed to go away. I > had > > > some testing done yesterday at a ND office but none of it should > have > > > caused this. It feels like a combo of joint pain and muscle > pain. > > It > > > only seems to be in my right side - I do not notice it much, if > at > > all > > > in my left side. Any ideas????> > >> >> Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape in the new year.

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Maritza,

This is what I did for pain Sea Salt (1 to2 cups) and baking soda(1 cup) for 20 minutes.( more than 20 may exhaust you). And I usually do it more if I want sleep. This bath also counteracts the effects of radiation whether its from x-rays,cancer treatments,radiation from TV or microwaves.

Clorox Bath: this helps to remove heavy metals from the body and adds more oxygen.(1/2 cup of Clorox brand bleach only.) 20 minutes also. and when done shower the bleach off of you. This also helps to relieve your skin when its itchy.

Epsom Salt and Ginger Bath: Opens pores and eliminates toxin and relieves pain. Stir in 1 cup of Epsom Salt and 2 tablespoons of ginger in a cup of water first then add it to your bath. Bathe no longer than 30 minutes.

Epsom-sea-oil: This bath helps with dry skin and stress. 1 Cup Epsom salt 1 cup sea salt and 1 cup sesame oil . Soak for 20 minutes.

Vinegar Bath: Use this bath if your body is too acidic. Quick way of restoring the acid-alkaline balance. Mix 1 cup to 2 quart 100% organic apple cidar. Soak for 40-45 minutes. Also this is great for joints, arthritis, bursitis,tendonitis, and GOUT.

Bentonite Bath: This is a fast detoxification method. Soak 2-4 pounds of bentonite clay in flat container overnight to dissolve it. Then add the dissolve clay to your bath. With 2 lbs of clay soak for 1 hour. With 4 pounds soak 30 minutes. The more the bentonite used the faster the detoxification. You will end up with a headache. But works on getting heavy metals out.

In a message dated 1/17/2008 11:08:56 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, saxony01@... writes:

Maritza,

What are you doing for your pain? . . .

Have you tried Epsom Salt baths? . . . Massage? . . . moderate exercise? . . . are you getting sufficient deep sleep?

Hugs,

Rogene

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Maritza,

This is what I did for pain Sea Salt (1 to2 cups) and baking soda(1 cup) for 20 minutes.( more than 20 may exhaust you). And I usually do it more if I want sleep. This bath also counteracts the effects of radiation whether its from x-rays,cancer treatments,radiation from TV or microwaves.

Clorox Bath: this helps to remove heavy metals from the body and adds more oxygen.(1/2 cup of Clorox brand bleach only.) 20 minutes also. and when done shower the bleach off of you. This also helps to relieve your skin when its itchy.

Epsom Salt and Ginger Bath: Opens pores and eliminates toxin and relieves pain. Stir in 1 cup of Epsom Salt and 2 tablespoons of ginger in a cup of water first then add it to your bath. Bathe no longer than 30 minutes.

Epsom-sea-oil: This bath helps with dry skin and stress. 1 Cup Epsom salt 1 cup sea salt and 1 cup sesame oil . Soak for 20 minutes.

Vinegar Bath: Use this bath if your body is too acidic. Quick way of restoring the acid-alkaline balance. Mix 1 cup to 2 quart 100% organic apple cidar. Soak for 40-45 minutes. Also this is great for joints, arthritis, bursitis,tendonitis, and GOUT.

Bentonite Bath: This is a fast detoxification method. Soak 2-4 pounds of bentonite clay in flat container overnight to dissolve it. Then add the dissolve clay to your bath. With 2 lbs of clay soak for 1 hour. With 4 pounds soak 30 minutes. The more the bentonite used the faster the detoxification. You will end up with a headache. But works on getting heavy metals out.

In a message dated 1/17/2008 11:08:56 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, saxony01@... writes:

Maritza,

What are you doing for your pain? . . .

Have you tried Epsom Salt baths? . . . Massage? . . . moderate exercise? . . . are you getting sufficient deep sleep?

Hugs,

Rogene

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Thank you ! I have taken this pre-explant, Dr. Huang

recommended it. I will give it a try for the pain.

Thank you!

Lynn

> > >

> > > Just wondering if anyone has any idea as to why my right arm

and

> leg

> > > are hurting so bad. I have had little episodes of this going on

> now

> > for

> > > a few months. However, since explant, it seemed to go away. I

> had

> > > some testing done yesterday at a ND office but none of it

should

> have

> > > caused this. It feels like a combo of joint pain and muscle

> pain.

> > It

> > > only seems to be in my right side - I do not notice it much, if

> at

> > all

> > > in my left side. Any ideas????

> > >

> >

>

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Rogene,

it looks like me and you are up late trying to help the other girls again. I enjoy helping. I know you and I know what its like to go through this feeling alone but really we are not.

In a message dated 1/18/2008 1:11:25 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, saxony01@... writes:

Great ideas !

Thanks!

Rogene

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Maritza,

This is what I did for pain Sea Salt (1 to2 cups) and baking soda(1 cup) for 20 minutes.( more than 20 may exhaust you). And I usually do it more if I want sleep. This bath also counteracts the effects of radiation whether its from x-rays,cancer treatments,radiatio n from TV or microwaves.

Clorox Bath: this helps to remove heavy metals from the body and adds more oxygen.(1/2 cup of Clorox brand bleach only.) 20 minutes also. and when done shower the bleach off of you. This also helps to relieve your skin when its itchy.

Epsom Salt and Ginger Bath: Opens pores and eliminates toxin and relieves pain. Stir in 1 cup of Epsom Salt and 2 tablespoons of ginger in a cup of water first then add it to your bath. Bathe no longer than 30 minutes.

Epsom-sea-oil: This bath helps with dry skin and stress. 1 Cup Epsom salt 1 cup sea salt and 1 cup sesame oil . Soak for 20 minutes.

Vinegar Bath: Use this bath if your body is too acidic. Quick way of restoring the acid-alkaline balance. Mix 1 cup to 2 quart 100% organic apple cidar. Soak for 40-45 minutes. Also this is great for joints, arthritis, bursitis,tendonitis , and GOUT.

Bentonite Bath: This is a fast detoxification method. Soak 2-4 pounds of bentonite clay in flat container overnight to dissolve it. Then add the dissolve clay to your bath. With 2 lbs of clay soak for 1 hour. With 4 pounds soak 30 minutes. The more the bentonite used the faster the detoxification. You will end up with a headache. But works on getting heavy metals out.

In a message dated 1/17/2008 11:08:56 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, saxony01 (DOT) com writes:

Maritza,

What are you doing for your pain? . . .

Have you tried Epsom Salt baths? . . . Massage? . . . moderate exercise? . . . are you getting sufficient deep sleep?

Hugs,

Rogene

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Rogene,

it looks like me and you are up late trying to help the other girls again. I enjoy helping. I know you and I know what its like to go through this feeling alone but really we are not.

In a message dated 1/18/2008 1:11:25 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, saxony01@... writes:

Great ideas !

Thanks!

Rogene

Re: Re: Pain in Right Side

Maritza,

This is what I did for pain Sea Salt (1 to2 cups) and baking soda(1 cup) for 20 minutes.( more than 20 may exhaust you). And I usually do it more if I want sleep. This bath also counteracts the effects of radiation whether its from x-rays,cancer treatments,radiatio n from TV or microwaves.

Clorox Bath: this helps to remove heavy metals from the body and adds more oxygen.(1/2 cup of Clorox brand bleach only.) 20 minutes also. and when done shower the bleach off of you. This also helps to relieve your skin when its itchy.

Epsom Salt and Ginger Bath: Opens pores and eliminates toxin and relieves pain. Stir in 1 cup of Epsom Salt and 2 tablespoons of ginger in a cup of water first then add it to your bath. Bathe no longer than 30 minutes.

Epsom-sea-oil: This bath helps with dry skin and stress. 1 Cup Epsom salt 1 cup sea salt and 1 cup sesame oil . Soak for 20 minutes.

Vinegar Bath: Use this bath if your body is too acidic. Quick way of restoring the acid-alkaline balance. Mix 1 cup to 2 quart 100% organic apple cidar. Soak for 40-45 minutes. Also this is great for joints, arthritis, bursitis,tendonitis , and GOUT.

Bentonite Bath: This is a fast detoxification method. Soak 2-4 pounds of bentonite clay in flat container overnight to dissolve it. Then add the dissolve clay to your bath. With 2 lbs of clay soak for 1 hour. With 4 pounds soak 30 minutes. The more the bentonite used the faster the detoxification. You will end up with a headache. But works on getting heavy metals out.

In a message dated 1/17/2008 11:08:56 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, saxony01 (DOT) com writes:

Maritza,

What are you doing for your pain? . . .

Have you tried Epsom Salt baths? . . . Massage? . . . moderate exercise? . . . are you getting sufficient deep sleep?

Hugs,

Rogene

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In a message dated 1/17/08 8:22:11 PM, maritza_perez9@... writes:

Maritza:

Try the 11 x 14 blue ice packs by Chattanooga. Freeze, wrap in folded hand towel and move around to pain where needed. You can order online (Google) and get more than one, so you can have an extra one or two in the freezer.

You may be surprised at how much this helps,

Cathie

Hi this maritza, I also have been x-planted 2-yrs but my pain comes and go, I also have pain all over, the new one now is my breast, and my back on the shoulder side this weird pain that does not go away, also a pain in my legs and left arm, sometimes I feel as I'm dying of cancer, This week I had the worse episode ever, and to make it worse I don't have Insurance , because I started my own business, I don't complaint any more because my family must think am just crazy.

   hope this makes you feel a bit better that you are not alone.

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In a message dated 1/17/08 8:22:11 PM, maritza_perez9@... writes:

Maritza:

Try the 11 x 14 blue ice packs by Chattanooga. Freeze, wrap in folded hand towel and move around to pain where needed. You can order online (Google) and get more than one, so you can have an extra one or two in the freezer.

You may be surprised at how much this helps,

Cathie

Hi this maritza, I also have been x-planted 2-yrs but my pain comes and go, I also have pain all over, the new one now is my breast, and my back on the shoulder side this weird pain that does not go away, also a pain in my legs and left arm, sometimes I feel as I'm dying of cancer, This week I had the worse episode ever, and to make it worse I don't have Insurance , because I started my own business, I don't complaint any more because my family must think am just crazy.

   hope this makes you feel a bit better that you are not alone.

**************Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape. http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp00300000002489

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Great info ! I will give both a try.

I read your story, wow. How horrible. I am happy that you are

getting your life back.

Thanks for the post.

Love, Lynn

> > > >

> > > > Just wondering if anyone has any idea as to why my right arm

> and

> > leg

> > > > are hurting so bad. I have had little episodes of this going

on

> > now

> > > for

> > > > a few months. However, since explant, it seemed to go away.

I

> > had

> > > > some testing done yesterday at a ND office but none of it

> should

> > have

> > > > caused this. It feels like a combo of joint pain and muscle

> > pain.

> > > It

> > > > only seems to be in my right side - I do not notice it much,

if

> > at

> > > all

> > > > in my left side. Any ideas????

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> **************Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in

shape.

> http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?

NCID=aolcmp00300000002489

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Maritza,

Try some homeopathic PAIN RELIEF by NaturoBio at a health food store. only $7.99 and works great.

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In a message dated 1/17/08 8:22:11 PM, maritza_perez9 writes:Maritza:Try the 11 x 14 blue ice packs by Chattanooga. Freeze, wrap in folded hand towel and move around to pain where needed. You can order online (Google) and get more than one, so you can have an extra one or two in the freezer.You may be surprised at how much this helps,Cathie

Hi this maritza, I also have been x-planted 2-yrs but my pain comes and go, I also have pain all over, the new one now is my breast, and my back on the shoulder side this weird pain that does not go away, also a pain in my legs and left arm, sometimes I feel as I'm dying of cancer, This week I had the worse episode ever, and to make it worse I don't have Insurance , because I started my own business, I don't complaint any more because my family must think am just crazy. hope this makes you feel a bit better that you are not alone.**************Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape.http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp00300000002489

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