RE: [Fwd: [BTLdiapering] OT: Motherhood Stores]

August 31, 2000

I was wondering there for a minute Wendi lol I said to myself "woah...wendi it MAD! she must be in a mood tonight!"

Michele

This is supposed to say I re-sent it not I resent it. I don't resentanyone! :)Wendihttp://www.lactivist.combreastfeeding resources and info

August 31, 2000

I was wondering there for a minute Wendi lol I said to myself "woah...wendi it MAD! she must be in a mood tonight!"

Michele

This is supposed to say I re-sent it not I resent it. I don't resentanyone! :)Wendihttp://www.lactivist.combreastfeeding resources and info

August 31, 2000

I, also, received formula when I delivered my youngest. I donated them to a place called Birthright, which is a crisis pregnancy center. They offer diapers, formula, and counseling to pregnant mothers in crisis and their babies through our church as an alternative to abortion, enabling them to keep their little ones. This would be another option, if there's one in your area (check with a Catholic church in your area!)

I received two boxes of formula products after giving my information to a Motherhood store (I thought I would receive catalogs. I still have them and don'tknow what to do with them.S.Margaret Potter wrote:

August 31, 2000

I, also, received formula when I delivered my youngest. I donated them to a place called Birthright, which is a crisis pregnancy center. They offer diapers, formula, and counseling to pregnant mothers in crisis and their babies through our church as an alternative to abortion, enabling them to keep their little ones. This would be another option, if there's one in your area (check with a Catholic church in your area!)

I received two boxes of formula products after giving my information to a Motherhood store (I thought I would receive catalogs. I still have them and don'tknow what to do with them.S.Margaret Potter wrote:

August 31, 2000

I, also, received formula when I delivered my youngest. I donated them to a place called Birthright, which is a crisis pregnancy center. They offer diapers, formula, and counseling to pregnant mothers in crisis and their babies through our church as an alternative to abortion, enabling them to keep their little ones. This would be another option, if there's one in your area (check with a Catholic church in your area!)

I received two boxes of formula products after giving my information to a Motherhood store (I thought I would receive catalogs. I still have them and don'tknow what to do with them.S.Margaret Potter wrote:

August 31, 2000

I respect your right to your opinion, and the fact that you overcame your

breastfeeding difficulties. I don't think you meant to be hurtful, but, I don't

appreciate your analogy at all. I don't subscribe to the idea that staying at

home is always better for the child. What works for some families may not work

for others. I for one am a much better parent to my children because I work

part-time. Since becoming a parent five and a half years ago I have tried

working

part-time and staying home, and I respect both choices.

I really believe that families need to find the balance that works for them, and

don't appreciate the assumption that staying at home is always better for the

child. I don't mean to be argumentative about this but I just get tired about

all

the false assumptions out there about those of us who work outside of the home!

Margaret

M. Elliott wrote:

> I believe an analogy would be this: becomming a stay at home mom is best

> for the child. However for those people that go back to work, should they be

> deemed inadequate parents and made to feel as though they are doing

> something wrong? I personally dont think so.

>

August 31, 2000

I respect your right to your opinion, and the fact that you overcame your

breastfeeding difficulties. I don't think you meant to be hurtful, but, I don't

appreciate your analogy at all. I don't subscribe to the idea that staying at

home is always better for the child. What works for some families may not work

for others. I for one am a much better parent to my children because I work

part-time. Since becoming a parent five and a half years ago I have tried

working

part-time and staying home, and I respect both choices.

I really believe that families need to find the balance that works for them, and

don't appreciate the assumption that staying at home is always better for the

child. I don't mean to be argumentative about this but I just get tired about

all

the false assumptions out there about those of us who work outside of the home!

Margaret

M. Elliott wrote:

> I believe an analogy would be this: becomming a stay at home mom is best

> for the child. However for those people that go back to work, should they be

> deemed inadequate parents and made to feel as though they are doing

> something wrong? I personally dont think so.

>

August 31, 2000

I respect your right to your opinion, and the fact that you overcame your

breastfeeding difficulties. I don't think you meant to be hurtful, but, I don't

appreciate your analogy at all. I don't subscribe to the idea that staying at

home is always better for the child. What works for some families may not work

for others. I for one am a much better parent to my children because I work

part-time. Since becoming a parent five and a half years ago I have tried

working

part-time and staying home, and I respect both choices.

I really believe that families need to find the balance that works for them, and

don't appreciate the assumption that staying at home is always better for the

child. I don't mean to be argumentative about this but I just get tired about

all

the false assumptions out there about those of us who work outside of the home!

Margaret

M. Elliott wrote:

> I believe an analogy would be this: becomming a stay at home mom is best

> for the child. However for those people that go back to work, should they be

> deemed inadequate parents and made to feel as though they are doing

> something wrong? I personally dont think so.

>

August 31, 2000

In a message dated 8/31/00 7:30:22 PM Pacific Daylight Time,

potterkim@... writes:

<<

I respect your right to your opinion, and the fact that you overcame your

breastfeeding difficulties. I don't think you meant to be hurtful, but, I

don't

appreciate your analogy at all. I don't subscribe to the idea that staying

at

home is always better for the child. What works for some families may not

work

for others. I for one am a much better parent to my children because I work

part-time. Since becoming a parent five and a half years ago I have tried

working

part-time and staying home, and I respect both choices.

I really believe that families need to find the balance that works for them,

and

don't appreciate the assumption that staying at home is always better for the

child. I don't mean to be argumentative about this but I just get tired

about all

the false assumptions out there about those of us who work outside of the

home!

Margaret

M. Elliott wrote:

> I believe an analogy would be this: becomming a stay at home mom is best

> for the child. However for those people that go back to work, should they

be

> deemed inadequate parents and made to feel as though they are doing

> something wrong? I personally dont think so.

>

>>

seems like she was agreeing with you : ) maybe you got the wrong impression :

( just read it and thought I would respond on her behalf.

August 31, 2000

In a message dated 8/31/00 7:30:22 PM Pacific Daylight Time,

potterkim@... writes:

<<

I respect your right to your opinion, and the fact that you overcame your

breastfeeding difficulties. I don't think you meant to be hurtful, but, I

don't

appreciate your analogy at all. I don't subscribe to the idea that staying

at

home is always better for the child. What works for some families may not

work

for others. I for one am a much better parent to my children because I work

part-time. Since becoming a parent five and a half years ago I have tried

working

part-time and staying home, and I respect both choices.

I really believe that families need to find the balance that works for them,

and

don't appreciate the assumption that staying at home is always better for the

child. I don't mean to be argumentative about this but I just get tired

about all

the false assumptions out there about those of us who work outside of the

home!

Margaret

M. Elliott wrote:

> I believe an analogy would be this: becomming a stay at home mom is best

> for the child. However for those people that go back to work, should they

be

> deemed inadequate parents and made to feel as though they are doing

> something wrong? I personally dont think so.

>

>>

seems like she was agreeing with you : ) maybe you got the wrong impression :

( just read it and thought I would respond on her behalf.

August 31, 2000

In a message dated 8/31/00 7:30:22 PM Pacific Daylight Time,

potterkim@... writes:

<<

I respect your right to your opinion, and the fact that you overcame your

breastfeeding difficulties. I don't think you meant to be hurtful, but, I

don't

appreciate your analogy at all. I don't subscribe to the idea that staying

at

home is always better for the child. What works for some families may not

work

for others. I for one am a much better parent to my children because I work

part-time. Since becoming a parent five and a half years ago I have tried

working

part-time and staying home, and I respect both choices.

I really believe that families need to find the balance that works for them,

and

don't appreciate the assumption that staying at home is always better for the

child. I don't mean to be argumentative about this but I just get tired

about all

the false assumptions out there about those of us who work outside of the

home!

Margaret

M. Elliott wrote:

> I believe an analogy would be this: becomming a stay at home mom is best

> for the child. However for those people that go back to work, should they

be

> deemed inadequate parents and made to feel as though they are doing

> something wrong? I personally dont think so.

>

>>

seems like she was agreeing with you : ) maybe you got the wrong impression :

( just read it and thought I would respond on her behalf.

August 31, 2000

Michele,

ROTFL! Actually it has been a horrid day and worse night but finally things are looking up! My kids are in bed! LOL I read the post when it came through and I couldn't believe I wrote that. Just typical of my day today. Tomorrow will definitely be better!

Wendihttp://www.lactivist.combreastfeeding resources and info

-----Original Message-----From: ~ Michele ~ Sent: Thursday, August 31, 2000 8:21 PMTo: breastfeedingegroupsSubject: Re: [Fwd: [bTLdiapering] OT: Motherhood Stores]

I was wondering there for a minute Wendi lol I said to myself " woah...wendi it MAD! she must be in a mood tonight! "

Michele

This is supposed to say I re-sent it not I resent it. I don't resentanyone! :)Wendihttp://www.lactivist.combreastfeeding resources and infoGive the Gift of Life Breastfeed!http://www.lactivist.com

August 31, 2000

Michele,

ROTFL! Actually it has been a horrid day and worse night but finally things are looking up! My kids are in bed! LOL I read the post when it came through and I couldn't believe I wrote that. Just typical of my day today. Tomorrow will definitely be better!

Wendihttp://www.lactivist.combreastfeeding resources and info

-----Original Message-----From: ~ Michele ~ Sent: Thursday, August 31, 2000 8:21 PMTo: breastfeedingegroupsSubject: Re: [Fwd: [bTLdiapering] OT: Motherhood Stores]

I was wondering there for a minute Wendi lol I said to myself " woah...wendi it MAD! she must be in a mood tonight! "

Michele

This is supposed to say I re-sent it not I resent it. I don't resentanyone! :)Wendihttp://www.lactivist.combreastfeeding resources and infoGive the Gift of Life Breastfeed!http://www.lactivist.com

August 31, 2000

Michele,

ROTFL! Actually it has been a horrid day and worse night but finally things are looking up! My kids are in bed! LOL I read the post when it came through and I couldn't believe I wrote that. Just typical of my day today. Tomorrow will definitely be better!

Wendihttp://www.lactivist.combreastfeeding resources and info

-----Original Message-----From: ~ Michele ~ Sent: Thursday, August 31, 2000 8:21 PMTo: breastfeedingegroupsSubject: Re: [Fwd: [bTLdiapering] OT: Motherhood Stores]

I was wondering there for a minute Wendi lol I said to myself " woah...wendi it MAD! she must be in a mood tonight! "

Michele

This is supposed to say I re-sent it not I resent it. I don't resentanyone! :)Wendihttp://www.lactivist.combreastfeeding resources and infoGive the Gift of Life Breastfeed!http://www.lactivist.com

September 1, 2000

>

> I, also, received formula when I delivered my youngest. I donated them to a

place called Birthright, which is a crisis pregnancy

> center. They offer diapers, formula, and counseling to pregnant mothers in

crisis and their babies through our church as an

> alternative to abortion, enabling them to keep their little ones. This would

be another option, if there's one in your area (check

> with a Catholic church in your area!)

>

This sounds like a great idea. Thanks for posting this info.

Joan

September 1, 2000

>

> I, also, received formula when I delivered my youngest. I donated them to a

place called Birthright, which is a crisis pregnancy

> center. They offer diapers, formula, and counseling to pregnant mothers in

crisis and their babies through our church as an

> alternative to abortion, enabling them to keep their little ones. This would

be another option, if there's one in your area (check

> with a Catholic church in your area!)

>

This sounds like a great idea. Thanks for posting this info.

Joan

September 1, 2000

I sold all of the samples I received on eBay and bought myself a

nursing top.

--- Shelby wrote:

> I received two boxes of formula products after giving my information

> to a Motherhood store (I thought I would receive catalogs. I still

> have them and don't

> know what to do with them.

> S.

>

> Margaret Potter wrote:

>

> >

> > Another opportunity to be an advocate for corporate

> responsibilty...Please

> > write Mothers Work letter regarding their partnership with Abbott ,

> > manufacturer of Ross Infant Formulas.

> >

> > Give the Gift of Life Breastfeed!

> > http://www.lactivist.com

> >

>

------------------------------------------------------------------------

> >

> > Subject: [bTLdiapering] OT: Motherhood Stores

> > Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2000 15:38:22 -0400

> >

> > Reply-To: BTLdiaperingegroups

> > To: <BTLdiaperingegroups>

> >

> > Thanks for the forward . I wasn't sure if I could forward

> it to

> > this list.

> >

> > Read the press release from Motherhood about Ross Laboratories,

> makers of

> > Similac, being their new sponsors in the area of education.

> According to

> > other message boards, Motherhood hands over the addresses of

> customers to

> > Ross who then sends out samples in violation of the International

> Code of

> > Marketing of Breastmilk Substitutes. In-store customers also

> report that

> > free infant formula and advertising sits on cash register counters

> in some

> > stores. The site:

> >

> > http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/000504/pa_mothers_1.html

> >

> > Mama to 2 yr old BF, CD, AP Amy - who will not shop with Motherhood

> or its

> > affiliates until they stop violating the code.

> >

> > World-wide Cloth Diapering Resource Pages:

> > http://www.borntolove.com/d-list.shtml

> > 330+ mail-order sources - world-wide! Plus - company and diaper

> product reviews - menstrual resources - dozens of online article

> links and so much more!

> >

> > NEW! Worldwide Parenting Resources Search Engine:

> > http://link.freesitestuff.com/?born2luv

> > An easy way to search for your favourite online companies, articles

> and resources. Plus you can add your favourite links to share with

> others!

>

> --

>

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

> Having power over yourself is an inoculation

> against the power of others.

> - J. Ehrlich

>

> The reason doctors are so dangerous is that they believe

> in what they're doing.

> - S. Mendelsohn

>

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

>

=====

Soyster

Owner, Soyster's Baby Boutique

http://babyboutique.safeshopper.com

__________________________________________________

September 1, 2000

I sold all of the samples I received on eBay and bought myself a

nursing top.

--- Shelby wrote:

> I received two boxes of formula products after giving my information

> to a Motherhood store (I thought I would receive catalogs. I still

> have them and don't

> know what to do with them.

> S.

>

> Margaret Potter wrote:

>

> >

> > Another opportunity to be an advocate for corporate

> responsibilty...Please

> > write Mothers Work letter regarding their partnership with Abbott ,

> > manufacturer of Ross Infant Formulas.

> >

> > Give the Gift of Life Breastfeed!

> > http://www.lactivist.com

> >

>

------------------------------------------------------------------------

> >

> > Subject: [bTLdiapering] OT: Motherhood Stores

> > Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2000 15:38:22 -0400

> >

> > Reply-To: BTLdiaperingegroups

> > To: <BTLdiaperingegroups>

> >

> > Thanks for the forward . I wasn't sure if I could forward

> it to

> > this list.

> >

> > Read the press release from Motherhood about Ross Laboratories,

> makers of

> > Similac, being their new sponsors in the area of education.

> According to

> > other message boards, Motherhood hands over the addresses of

> customers to

> > Ross who then sends out samples in violation of the International

> Code of

> > Marketing of Breastmilk Substitutes. In-store customers also

> report that

> > free infant formula and advertising sits on cash register counters

> in some

> > stores. The site:

> >

> > http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/000504/pa_mothers_1.html

> >

> > Mama to 2 yr old BF, CD, AP Amy - who will not shop with Motherhood

> or its

> > affiliates until they stop violating the code.

> >

> > World-wide Cloth Diapering Resource Pages:

> > http://www.borntolove.com/d-list.shtml

> > 330+ mail-order sources - world-wide! Plus - company and diaper

> product reviews - menstrual resources - dozens of online article

> links and so much more!

> >

> > NEW! Worldwide Parenting Resources Search Engine:

> > http://link.freesitestuff.com/?born2luv

> > An easy way to search for your favourite online companies, articles

> and resources. Plus you can add your favourite links to share with

> others!

>

> --

>

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

> Having power over yourself is an inoculation

> against the power of others.

> - J. Ehrlich

>

> The reason doctors are so dangerous is that they believe

> in what they're doing.

> - S. Mendelsohn

>

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

>

=====

Soyster

Owner, Soyster's Baby Boutique

http://babyboutique.safeshopper.com

__________________________________________________

September 1, 2000

I sold all of the samples I received on eBay and bought myself a

nursing top.

--- Shelby wrote:

> I received two boxes of formula products after giving my information

> to a Motherhood store (I thought I would receive catalogs. I still

> have them and don't

> know what to do with them.

> S.

>

> Margaret Potter wrote:

>

> >

> > Another opportunity to be an advocate for corporate

> responsibilty...Please

> > write Mothers Work letter regarding their partnership with Abbott ,

> > manufacturer of Ross Infant Formulas.

> >

> > Give the Gift of Life Breastfeed!

> > http://www.lactivist.com

> >

>

------------------------------------------------------------------------

> >

> > Subject: [bTLdiapering] OT: Motherhood Stores

> > Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2000 15:38:22 -0400

> >

> > Reply-To: BTLdiaperingegroups

> > To: <BTLdiaperingegroups>

> >

> > Thanks for the forward . I wasn't sure if I could forward

> it to

> > this list.

> >

> > Read the press release from Motherhood about Ross Laboratories,

> makers of

> > Similac, being their new sponsors in the area of education.

> According to

> > other message boards, Motherhood hands over the addresses of

> customers to

> > Ross who then sends out samples in violation of the International

> Code of

> > Marketing of Breastmilk Substitutes. In-store customers also

> report that

> > free infant formula and advertising sits on cash register counters

> in some

> > stores. The site:

> >

> > http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/000504/pa_mothers_1.html

> >

> > Mama to 2 yr old BF, CD, AP Amy - who will not shop with Motherhood

> or its

> > affiliates until they stop violating the code.

> >

> > World-wide Cloth Diapering Resource Pages:

> > http://www.borntolove.com/d-list.shtml

> > 330+ mail-order sources - world-wide! Plus - company and diaper

> product reviews - menstrual resources - dozens of online article

> links and so much more!

> >

> > NEW! Worldwide Parenting Resources Search Engine:

> > http://link.freesitestuff.com/?born2luv

> > An easy way to search for your favourite online companies, articles

> and resources. Plus you can add your favourite links to share with

> others!

>

> --

>

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

> Having power over yourself is an inoculation

> against the power of others.

> - J. Ehrlich

>

> The reason doctors are so dangerous is that they believe

> in what they're doing.

> - S. Mendelsohn

>

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

>

=====

Soyster

Owner, Soyster's Baby Boutique

http://babyboutique.safeshopper.com

__________________________________________________

September 1, 2000

> I respect your right to your opinion, and the fact that you overcame your

> breastfeeding difficulties. I don't think you meant to be hurtful, but, I

don't

> appreciate your analogy at all.

Gosh...I just keep getting in deeper and deeper with this thread dont I?

Margaret, I certainly did not mean to be hurtful at all or in any way shape or

form!

> I don't subscribe to the idea that staying at

> home is always better for the child.

I dont either...I was just trying to make a point that formula feeding is not

the

the worst thing in the world. I think we actually share the same opinion on the

" moms working " situation. Whether a mom needs to or wants to work outside

the home is their own business.

> What works for some families may not work

> for others. I for one am a much better parent to my children because I work

> part-time. Since becoming a parent five and a half years ago I have tried

> working part-time and staying home, and I respect both choices.

This is exactly what I was trying to say. Some mothers have such a hard time

breastfeeding that they are better parents to supplement with formula. I know

when we were having our problems...Abby would eat for 1.5 hours using a

nipple shield and then do that every 2 hours not to mention the absolute

screaming fits inbetween because she hated being at the breast. DH had to

put milk or formula in a syringe and squirt that into her mouth while she was at

the breast just to get her to suck. Miserable is NOT the word for that whole

month of our lives. I've never cried so much in my life and I seriously

resented my child. I would just have to put her down and let her cry because

at that moment I did not like her. I couldnt believe I felt that way...but I

did.

Had it not been for the occasional formula bottle (I was still pumping and

feeding her mainly bm but she did get formula) I would have literally gone

crazy.

Yes BM is better, but I do not subscribe to the notion that formula is bad. It

is

a valid nutrition source...In other words there are worse things to do to a

child

then feed them formula.

> I really believe that families need to find the balance that works for them,

and

> don't appreciate the assumption that staying at home is always better for the

> child. I don't mean to be argumentative about this but I just get tired

about

> all the false assumptions out there about those of us who work outside of the

> home!

I agree with you. Whatever works. Staying home, working outside the home,

breastfed, formula fed, cloth or disposable etc etc. Whatever works for that

families situation. I work from home...some people think that's great and

would love to be able to do that. Other people wouldnt work from home if you

paid them extra to do it.

I hope you understand that I in no way shape or form meant to imply anything

or hurt your feelings.

>

> M. Elliott wrote:

>

> > I believe an analogy would be this: becomming a stay at home mom is best

for

> > the child. However for those people that go back to work, should they be

> > deemed inadequate parents and made to feel as though they are doing

something

> > wrong? I personally dont think so.

> >

>

> Give the Gift of Life Breastfeed!

> http://www.lactivist.com

>

-Jen

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