Guest guest Posted August 31, 2000 Report Share Posted August 31, 2000 I was wondering there for a minute Wendi lol I said to myself "woah...wendi it MAD! she must be in a mood tonight!" Michele This is supposed to say I re-sent it not I resent it. I don't resentanyone! :)Wendihttp://www.lactivist.combreastfeeding resources and info Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 31, 2000 Report Share Posted August 31, 2000 I was wondering there for a minute Wendi lol I said to myself "woah...wendi it MAD! she must be in a mood tonight!" Michele This is supposed to say I re-sent it not I resent it. I don't resentanyone! :)Wendihttp://www.lactivist.combreastfeeding resources and info Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 31, 2000 Report Share Posted August 31, 2000 I, also, received formula when I delivered my youngest. I donated them to a place called Birthright, which is a crisis pregnancy center. They offer diapers, formula, and counseling to pregnant mothers in crisis and their babies through our church as an alternative to abortion, enabling them to keep their little ones. This would be another option, if there's one in your area (check with a Catholic church in your area!) I received two boxes of formula products after giving my information to a Motherhood store (I thought I would receive catalogs. I still have them and don'tknow what to do with them.S.Margaret Potter wrote: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 31, 2000 Report Share Posted August 31, 2000 I, also, received formula when I delivered my youngest. I donated them to a place called Birthright, which is a crisis pregnancy center. They offer diapers, formula, and counseling to pregnant mothers in crisis and their babies through our church as an alternative to abortion, enabling them to keep their little ones. This would be another option, if there's one in your area (check with a Catholic church in your area!) I received two boxes of formula products after giving my information to a Motherhood store (I thought I would receive catalogs. I still have them and don'tknow what to do with them.S.Margaret Potter wrote: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 31, 2000 Report Share Posted August 31, 2000 I, also, received formula when I delivered my youngest. I donated them to a place called Birthright, which is a crisis pregnancy center. They offer diapers, formula, and counseling to pregnant mothers in crisis and their babies through our church as an alternative to abortion, enabling them to keep their little ones. This would be another option, if there's one in your area (check with a Catholic church in your area!) I received two boxes of formula products after giving my information to a Motherhood store (I thought I would receive catalogs. I still have them and don'tknow what to do with them.S.Margaret Potter wrote: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 31, 2000 Report Share Posted August 31, 2000 I respect your right to your opinion, and the fact that you overcame your breastfeeding difficulties. I don't think you meant to be hurtful, but, I don't appreciate your analogy at all. I don't subscribe to the idea that staying at home is always better for the child. What works for some families may not work for others. I for one am a much better parent to my children because I work part-time. Since becoming a parent five and a half years ago I have tried working part-time and staying home, and I respect both choices. I really believe that families need to find the balance that works for them, and don't appreciate the assumption that staying at home is always better for the child. I don't mean to be argumentative about this but I just get tired about all the false assumptions out there about those of us who work outside of the home! Margaret M. Elliott wrote: > I believe an analogy would be this: becomming a stay at home mom is best > for the child. However for those people that go back to work, should they be > deemed inadequate parents and made to feel as though they are doing > something wrong? I personally dont think so. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 31, 2000 Report Share Posted August 31, 2000 I respect your right to your opinion, and the fact that you overcame your breastfeeding difficulties. I don't think you meant to be hurtful, but, I don't appreciate your analogy at all. I don't subscribe to the idea that staying at home is always better for the child. What works for some families may not work for others. I for one am a much better parent to my children because I work part-time. Since becoming a parent five and a half years ago I have tried working part-time and staying home, and I respect both choices. I really believe that families need to find the balance that works for them, and don't appreciate the assumption that staying at home is always better for the child. I don't mean to be argumentative about this but I just get tired about all the false assumptions out there about those of us who work outside of the home! Margaret M. Elliott wrote: > I believe an analogy would be this: becomming a stay at home mom is best > for the child. However for those people that go back to work, should they be > deemed inadequate parents and made to feel as though they are doing > something wrong? I personally dont think so. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 31, 2000 Report Share Posted August 31, 2000 I respect your right to your opinion, and the fact that you overcame your breastfeeding difficulties. I don't think you meant to be hurtful, but, I don't appreciate your analogy at all. I don't subscribe to the idea that staying at home is always better for the child. What works for some families may not work for others. I for one am a much better parent to my children because I work part-time. Since becoming a parent five and a half years ago I have tried working part-time and staying home, and I respect both choices. I really believe that families need to find the balance that works for them, and don't appreciate the assumption that staying at home is always better for the child. I don't mean to be argumentative about this but I just get tired about all the false assumptions out there about those of us who work outside of the home! Margaret M. Elliott wrote: > I believe an analogy would be this: becomming a stay at home mom is best > for the child. However for those people that go back to work, should they be > deemed inadequate parents and made to feel as though they are doing > something wrong? I personally dont think so. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 31, 2000 Report Share Posted August 31, 2000 In a message dated 8/31/00 7:30:22 PM Pacific Daylight Time, potterkim@... writes: << I respect your right to your opinion, and the fact that you overcame your breastfeeding difficulties. I don't think you meant to be hurtful, but, I don't appreciate your analogy at all. I don't subscribe to the idea that staying at home is always better for the child. What works for some families may not work for others. I for one am a much better parent to my children because I work part-time. Since becoming a parent five and a half years ago I have tried working part-time and staying home, and I respect both choices. I really believe that families need to find the balance that works for them, and don't appreciate the assumption that staying at home is always better for the child. I don't mean to be argumentative about this but I just get tired about all the false assumptions out there about those of us who work outside of the home! Margaret M. Elliott wrote: > I believe an analogy would be this: becomming a stay at home mom is best > for the child. However for those people that go back to work, should they be > deemed inadequate parents and made to feel as though they are doing > something wrong? I personally dont think so. > >> seems like she was agreeing with you : ) maybe you got the wrong impression : ( just read it and thought I would respond on her behalf. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 31, 2000 Report Share Posted August 31, 2000 In a message dated 8/31/00 7:30:22 PM Pacific Daylight Time, potterkim@... writes: << I respect your right to your opinion, and the fact that you overcame your breastfeeding difficulties. I don't think you meant to be hurtful, but, I don't appreciate your analogy at all. I don't subscribe to the idea that staying at home is always better for the child. What works for some families may not work for others. I for one am a much better parent to my children because I work part-time. Since becoming a parent five and a half years ago I have tried working part-time and staying home, and I respect both choices. I really believe that families need to find the balance that works for them, and don't appreciate the assumption that staying at home is always better for the child. I don't mean to be argumentative about this but I just get tired about all the false assumptions out there about those of us who work outside of the home! Margaret M. Elliott wrote: > I believe an analogy would be this: becomming a stay at home mom is best > for the child. However for those people that go back to work, should they be > deemed inadequate parents and made to feel as though they are doing > something wrong? I personally dont think so. > >> seems like she was agreeing with you : ) maybe you got the wrong impression : ( just read it and thought I would respond on her behalf. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 31, 2000 Report Share Posted August 31, 2000 In a message dated 8/31/00 7:30:22 PM Pacific Daylight Time, potterkim@... writes: << I respect your right to your opinion, and the fact that you overcame your breastfeeding difficulties. I don't think you meant to be hurtful, but, I don't appreciate your analogy at all. I don't subscribe to the idea that staying at home is always better for the child. What works for some families may not work for others. I for one am a much better parent to my children because I work part-time. Since becoming a parent five and a half years ago I have tried working part-time and staying home, and I respect both choices. I really believe that families need to find the balance that works for them, and don't appreciate the assumption that staying at home is always better for the child. I don't mean to be argumentative about this but I just get tired about all the false assumptions out there about those of us who work outside of the home! Margaret M. Elliott wrote: > I believe an analogy would be this: becomming a stay at home mom is best > for the child. However for those people that go back to work, should they be > deemed inadequate parents and made to feel as though they are doing > something wrong? I personally dont think so. > >> seems like she was agreeing with you : ) maybe you got the wrong impression : ( just read it and thought I would respond on her behalf. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 31, 2000 Report Share Posted August 31, 2000 Michele, ROTFL! Actually it has been a horrid day and worse night but finally things are looking up! My kids are in bed! LOL I read the post when it came through and I couldn't believe I wrote that. Just typical of my day today. Tomorrow will definitely be better! Wendihttp://www.lactivist.combreastfeeding resources and info -----Original Message-----From: ~ Michele ~ Sent: Thursday, August 31, 2000 8:21 PMTo: breastfeedingegroupsSubject: Re: [Fwd: [bTLdiapering] OT: Motherhood Stores] I was wondering there for a minute Wendi lol I said to myself " woah...wendi it MAD! she must be in a mood tonight! " Michele This is supposed to say I re-sent it not I resent it. I don't resentanyone! :)Wendihttp://www.lactivist.combreastfeeding resources and infoGive the Gift of Life Breastfeed!http://www.lactivist.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 31, 2000 Report Share Posted August 31, 2000 Michele, ROTFL! Actually it has been a horrid day and worse night but finally things are looking up! My kids are in bed! LOL I read the post when it came through and I couldn't believe I wrote that. Just typical of my day today. Tomorrow will definitely be better! Wendihttp://www.lactivist.combreastfeeding resources and info -----Original Message-----From: ~ Michele ~ Sent: Thursday, August 31, 2000 8:21 PMTo: breastfeedingegroupsSubject: Re: [Fwd: [bTLdiapering] OT: Motherhood Stores] I was wondering there for a minute Wendi lol I said to myself " woah...wendi it MAD! she must be in a mood tonight! " Michele This is supposed to say I re-sent it not I resent it. I don't resentanyone! :)Wendihttp://www.lactivist.combreastfeeding resources and infoGive the Gift of Life Breastfeed!http://www.lactivist.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 31, 2000 Report Share Posted August 31, 2000 Michele, ROTFL! Actually it has been a horrid day and worse night but finally things are looking up! My kids are in bed! LOL I read the post when it came through and I couldn't believe I wrote that. Just typical of my day today. Tomorrow will definitely be better! Wendihttp://www.lactivist.combreastfeeding resources and info -----Original Message-----From: ~ Michele ~ Sent: Thursday, August 31, 2000 8:21 PMTo: breastfeedingegroupsSubject: Re: [Fwd: [bTLdiapering] OT: Motherhood Stores] I was wondering there for a minute Wendi lol I said to myself " woah...wendi it MAD! she must be in a mood tonight! " Michele This is supposed to say I re-sent it not I resent it. I don't resentanyone! :)Wendihttp://www.lactivist.combreastfeeding resources and infoGive the Gift of Life Breastfeed!http://www.lactivist.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 1, 2000 Report Share Posted September 1, 2000 > > > > I, also, received formula when I delivered my youngest. I donated them to a place called Birthright, which is a crisis pregnancy > center. They offer diapers, formula, and counseling to pregnant mothers in crisis and their babies through our church as an > alternative to abortion, enabling them to keep their little ones. This would be another option, if there's one in your area (check > with a Catholic church in your area!) > This sounds like a great idea. Thanks for posting this info. Joan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 1, 2000 Report Share Posted September 1, 2000 > > > > I, also, received formula when I delivered my youngest. I donated them to a place called Birthright, which is a crisis pregnancy > center. They offer diapers, formula, and counseling to pregnant mothers in crisis and their babies through our church as an > alternative to abortion, enabling them to keep their little ones. This would be another option, if there's one in your area (check > with a Catholic church in your area!) > This sounds like a great idea. Thanks for posting this info. Joan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 1, 2000 Report Share Posted September 1, 2000 I sold all of the samples I received on eBay and bought myself a nursing top. --- Shelby wrote: > I received two boxes of formula products after giving my information > to a Motherhood store (I thought I would receive catalogs. I still > have them and don't > know what to do with them. > S. > > Margaret Potter wrote: > > > > > Another opportunity to be an advocate for corporate > responsibilty...Please > > write Mothers Work letter regarding their partnership with Abbott , > > manufacturer of Ross Infant Formulas. > > > > Give the Gift of Life Breastfeed! > > http://www.lactivist.com > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > Subject: [bTLdiapering] OT: Motherhood Stores > > Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2000 15:38:22 -0400 > > > > Reply-To: BTLdiaperingegroups > > To: <BTLdiaperingegroups> > > > > Thanks for the forward . I wasn't sure if I could forward > it to > > this list. > > > > Read the press release from Motherhood about Ross Laboratories, > makers of > > Similac, being their new sponsors in the area of education. > According to > > other message boards, Motherhood hands over the addresses of > customers to > > Ross who then sends out samples in violation of the International > Code of > > Marketing of Breastmilk Substitutes. In-store customers also > report that > > free infant formula and advertising sits on cash register counters > in some > > stores. The site: > > > > http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/000504/pa_mothers_1.html > > > > > > Mama to 2 yr old BF, CD, AP Amy - who will not shop with Motherhood > or its > > affiliates until they stop violating the code. > > > > World-wide Cloth Diapering Resource Pages: > > http://www.borntolove.com/d-list.shtml > > 330+ mail-order sources - world-wide! Plus - company and diaper > product reviews - menstrual resources - dozens of online article > links and so much more! > > > > NEW! Worldwide Parenting Resources Search Engine: > > http://link.freesitestuff.com/?born2luv > > An easy way to search for your favourite online companies, articles > and resources. Plus you can add your favourite links to share with > others! > > -- > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Having power over yourself is an inoculation > against the power of others. > - J. Ehrlich > > The reason doctors are so dangerous is that they believe > in what they're doing. > - S. Mendelsohn > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > > ===== Soyster Owner, Soyster's Baby Boutique http://babyboutique.safeshopper.com __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 1, 2000 Report Share Posted September 1, 2000 I sold all of the samples I received on eBay and bought myself a nursing top. --- Shelby wrote: > I received two boxes of formula products after giving my information > to a Motherhood store (I thought I would receive catalogs. I still > have them and don't > know what to do with them. > S. > > Margaret Potter wrote: > > > > > Another opportunity to be an advocate for corporate > responsibilty...Please > > write Mothers Work letter regarding their partnership with Abbott , > > manufacturer of Ross Infant Formulas. > > > > Give the Gift of Life Breastfeed! > > http://www.lactivist.com > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > Subject: [bTLdiapering] OT: Motherhood Stores > > Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2000 15:38:22 -0400 > > > > Reply-To: BTLdiaperingegroups > > To: <BTLdiaperingegroups> > > > > Thanks for the forward . I wasn't sure if I could forward > it to > > this list. > > > > Read the press release from Motherhood about Ross Laboratories, > makers of > > Similac, being their new sponsors in the area of education. > According to > > other message boards, Motherhood hands over the addresses of > customers to > > Ross who then sends out samples in violation of the International > Code of > > Marketing of Breastmilk Substitutes. In-store customers also > report that > > free infant formula and advertising sits on cash register counters > in some > > stores. The site: > > > > http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/000504/pa_mothers_1.html > > > > > > Mama to 2 yr old BF, CD, AP Amy - who will not shop with Motherhood > or its > > affiliates until they stop violating the code. > > > > World-wide Cloth Diapering Resource Pages: > > http://www.borntolove.com/d-list.shtml > > 330+ mail-order sources - world-wide! Plus - company and diaper > product reviews - menstrual resources - dozens of online article > links and so much more! > > > > NEW! Worldwide Parenting Resources Search Engine: > > http://link.freesitestuff.com/?born2luv > > An easy way to search for your favourite online companies, articles > and resources. Plus you can add your favourite links to share with > others! > > -- > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Having power over yourself is an inoculation > against the power of others. > - J. Ehrlich > > The reason doctors are so dangerous is that they believe > in what they're doing. > - S. Mendelsohn > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > > ===== Soyster Owner, Soyster's Baby Boutique http://babyboutique.safeshopper.com __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 1, 2000 Report Share Posted September 1, 2000 I sold all of the samples I received on eBay and bought myself a nursing top. --- Shelby wrote: > I received two boxes of formula products after giving my information > to a Motherhood store (I thought I would receive catalogs. I still > have them and don't > know what to do with them. > S. > > Margaret Potter wrote: > > > > > Another opportunity to be an advocate for corporate > responsibilty...Please > > write Mothers Work letter regarding their partnership with Abbott , > > manufacturer of Ross Infant Formulas. > > > > Give the Gift of Life Breastfeed! > > http://www.lactivist.com > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > Subject: [bTLdiapering] OT: Motherhood Stores > > Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2000 15:38:22 -0400 > > > > Reply-To: BTLdiaperingegroups > > To: <BTLdiaperingegroups> > > > > Thanks for the forward . I wasn't sure if I could forward > it to > > this list. > > > > Read the press release from Motherhood about Ross Laboratories, > makers of > > Similac, being their new sponsors in the area of education. > According to > > other message boards, Motherhood hands over the addresses of > customers to > > Ross who then sends out samples in violation of the International > Code of > > Marketing of Breastmilk Substitutes. In-store customers also > report that > > free infant formula and advertising sits on cash register counters > in some > > stores. The site: > > > > http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/000504/pa_mothers_1.html > > > > > > Mama to 2 yr old BF, CD, AP Amy - who will not shop with Motherhood > or its > > affiliates until they stop violating the code. > > > > World-wide Cloth Diapering Resource Pages: > > http://www.borntolove.com/d-list.shtml > > 330+ mail-order sources - world-wide! Plus - company and diaper > product reviews - menstrual resources - dozens of online article > links and so much more! > > > > NEW! Worldwide Parenting Resources Search Engine: > > http://link.freesitestuff.com/?born2luv > > An easy way to search for your favourite online companies, articles > and resources. Plus you can add your favourite links to share with > others! > > -- > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Having power over yourself is an inoculation > against the power of others. > - J. Ehrlich > > The reason doctors are so dangerous is that they believe > in what they're doing. > - S. Mendelsohn > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > > ===== Soyster Owner, Soyster's Baby Boutique http://babyboutique.safeshopper.com __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 1, 2000 Report Share Posted September 1, 2000 > I respect your right to your opinion, and the fact that you overcame your > breastfeeding difficulties. I don't think you meant to be hurtful, but, I don't > appreciate your analogy at all. Gosh...I just keep getting in deeper and deeper with this thread dont I? Margaret, I certainly did not mean to be hurtful at all or in any way shape or form! > I don't subscribe to the idea that staying at > home is always better for the child. I dont either...I was just trying to make a point that formula feeding is not the the worst thing in the world. I think we actually share the same opinion on the " moms working " situation. Whether a mom needs to or wants to work outside the home is their own business. > What works for some families may not work > for others. I for one am a much better parent to my children because I work > part-time. Since becoming a parent five and a half years ago I have tried > working part-time and staying home, and I respect both choices. This is exactly what I was trying to say. Some mothers have such a hard time breastfeeding that they are better parents to supplement with formula. I know when we were having our problems...Abby would eat for 1.5 hours using a nipple shield and then do that every 2 hours not to mention the absolute screaming fits inbetween because she hated being at the breast. DH had to put milk or formula in a syringe and squirt that into her mouth while she was at the breast just to get her to suck. Miserable is NOT the word for that whole month of our lives. I've never cried so much in my life and I seriously resented my child. I would just have to put her down and let her cry because at that moment I did not like her. I couldnt believe I felt that way...but I did. Had it not been for the occasional formula bottle (I was still pumping and feeding her mainly bm but she did get formula) I would have literally gone crazy. Yes BM is better, but I do not subscribe to the notion that formula is bad. It is a valid nutrition source...In other words there are worse things to do to a child then feed them formula. > I really believe that families need to find the balance that works for them, and > don't appreciate the assumption that staying at home is always better for the > child. I don't mean to be argumentative about this but I just get tired about > all the false assumptions out there about those of us who work outside of the > home! I agree with you. Whatever works. Staying home, working outside the home, breastfed, formula fed, cloth or disposable etc etc. Whatever works for that families situation. I work from home...some people think that's great and would love to be able to do that. Other people wouldnt work from home if you paid them extra to do it. I hope you understand that I in no way shape or form meant to imply anything or hurt your feelings. > > M. Elliott wrote: > > > I believe an analogy would be this: becomming a stay at home mom is best for > > the child. However for those people that go back to work, should they be > > deemed inadequate parents and made to feel as though they are doing something > > wrong? I personally dont think so. > > > > > Give the Gift of Life Breastfeed! > http://www.lactivist.com > > -Jen -------------------------------------------------------------------- http://www.TheElliotts.org CUR #153 ICQ#875060 I was born Creative, not Patient. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 1, 2000 Report Share Posted September 1, 2000 > I respect your right to your opinion, and the fact that you overcame your > breastfeeding difficulties. I don't think you meant to be hurtful, but, I don't > appreciate your analogy at all. Gosh...I just keep getting in deeper and deeper with this thread dont I? Margaret, I certainly did not mean to be hurtful at all or in any way shape or form! > I don't subscribe to the idea that staying at > home is always better for the child. I dont either...I was just trying to make a point that formula feeding is not the the worst thing in the world. I think we actually share the same opinion on the " moms working " situation. Whether a mom needs to or wants to work outside the home is their own business. > What works for some families may not work > for others. I for one am a much better parent to my children because I work > part-time. Since becoming a parent five and a half years ago I have tried > working part-time and staying home, and I respect both choices. This is exactly what I was trying to say. Some mothers have such a hard time breastfeeding that they are better parents to supplement with formula. I know when we were having our problems...Abby would eat for 1.5 hours using a nipple shield and then do that every 2 hours not to mention the absolute screaming fits inbetween because she hated being at the breast. DH had to put milk or formula in a syringe and squirt that into her mouth while she was at the breast just to get her to suck. Miserable is NOT the word for that whole month of our lives. I've never cried so much in my life and I seriously resented my child. I would just have to put her down and let her cry because at that moment I did not like her. I couldnt believe I felt that way...but I did. Had it not been for the occasional formula bottle (I was still pumping and feeding her mainly bm but she did get formula) I would have literally gone crazy. Yes BM is better, but I do not subscribe to the notion that formula is bad. It is a valid nutrition source...In other words there are worse things to do to a child then feed them formula. > I really believe that families need to find the balance that works for them, and > don't appreciate the assumption that staying at home is always better for the > child. I don't mean to be argumentative about this but I just get tired about > all the false assumptions out there about those of us who work outside of the > home! I agree with you. Whatever works. Staying home, working outside the home, breastfed, formula fed, cloth or disposable etc etc. Whatever works for that families situation. I work from home...some people think that's great and would love to be able to do that. Other people wouldnt work from home if you paid them extra to do it. I hope you understand that I in no way shape or form meant to imply anything or hurt your feelings. > > M. Elliott wrote: > > > I believe an analogy would be this: becomming a stay at home mom is best for > > the child. However for those people that go back to work, should they be > > deemed inadequate parents and made to feel as though they are doing something > > wrong? I personally dont think so. > > > > > Give the Gift of Life Breastfeed! > http://www.lactivist.com > > -Jen -------------------------------------------------------------------- http://www.TheElliotts.org CUR #153 ICQ#875060 I was born Creative, not Patient. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 1, 2000 Report Share Posted September 1, 2000 > I respect your right to your opinion, and the fact that you overcame your > breastfeeding difficulties. I don't think you meant to be hurtful, but, I don't > appreciate your analogy at all. Gosh...I just keep getting in deeper and deeper with this thread dont I? Margaret, I certainly did not mean to be hurtful at all or in any way shape or form! > I don't subscribe to the idea that staying at > home is always better for the child. I dont either...I was just trying to make a point that formula feeding is not the the worst thing in the world. I think we actually share the same opinion on the " moms working " situation. Whether a mom needs to or wants to work outside the home is their own business. > What works for some families may not work > for others. I for one am a much better parent to my children because I work > part-time. Since becoming a parent five and a half years ago I have tried > working part-time and staying home, and I respect both choices. This is exactly what I was trying to say. Some mothers have such a hard time breastfeeding that they are better parents to supplement with formula. I know when we were having our problems...Abby would eat for 1.5 hours using a nipple shield and then do that every 2 hours not to mention the absolute screaming fits inbetween because she hated being at the breast. DH had to put milk or formula in a syringe and squirt that into her mouth while she was at the breast just to get her to suck. Miserable is NOT the word for that whole month of our lives. I've never cried so much in my life and I seriously resented my child. I would just have to put her down and let her cry because at that moment I did not like her. I couldnt believe I felt that way...but I did. Had it not been for the occasional formula bottle (I was still pumping and feeding her mainly bm but she did get formula) I would have literally gone crazy. Yes BM is better, but I do not subscribe to the notion that formula is bad. It is a valid nutrition source...In other words there are worse things to do to a child then feed them formula. > I really believe that families need to find the balance that works for them, and > don't appreciate the assumption that staying at home is always better for the > child. I don't mean to be argumentative about this but I just get tired about > all the false assumptions out there about those of us who work outside of the > home! I agree with you. Whatever works. Staying home, working outside the home, breastfed, formula fed, cloth or disposable etc etc. Whatever works for that families situation. I work from home...some people think that's great and would love to be able to do that. Other people wouldnt work from home if you paid them extra to do it. I hope you understand that I in no way shape or form meant to imply anything or hurt your feelings. > > M. Elliott wrote: > > > I believe an analogy would be this: becomming a stay at home mom is best for > > the child. However for those people that go back to work, should they be > > deemed inadequate parents and made to feel as though they are doing something > > wrong? I personally dont think so. > > > > > Give the Gift of Life Breastfeed! > http://www.lactivist.com > > -Jen -------------------------------------------------------------------- http://www.TheElliotts.org CUR #153 ICQ#875060 I was born Creative, not Patient. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 1, 2000 Report Share Posted September 1, 2000 Yes, these are all personal choices that each family makes. I just think that the substance that nourishes our babies for their first year of life should be breastmilk. No ifs, ands, or buts. I do however realize that my ideal is not the way life works. In your situation, you did what you needed to do to get through and continue to BF. But you also knew that you had to keep working at nursing and you persevered. Many moms don't. Formula companies know that offering free samples to BF moms are going to undermine many BF relationships. They target the moms who check Breast Only on those sign up sheets. The moms who check Both, or 'bottle only' get fewer incentives. They already have that mom so why should they spend their marketing dollar on them?? And research has shown that a mom who switches from BF to formula is more likely to use formula for the entire first year than a mom who starts off with ABM. Those moms go to cow's milk such sooner, often before 10 months. I think that it is unethical to target a mom who has already made the decision to BF with ABM literature. Formula is not " just fine " . There are many repercussions that may only turn up later in life. Diabetes, Crohn's disease. Obesity, various cancers, the list goes on and on. The choice to use formula is a very personal one...but should never be made blindly. The problem is that in our society, the detrimental effects of formula feeding are covered up and are certainly never presented to an expectant mother unless she knows where to look. Jenn -----Original Message----- From: M. Elliott This is exactly what I was trying to say. Some mothers have such a hard time breastfeeding that they are better parents to supplement with formula. (snip)I've never cried so much in my life and I seriously resented my child. I would just have to put her down and let her cry because at that moment I did not like her. I couldnt believe I felt that way...but I did. Had it not been for the occasional formula bottle (I was still pumping and feeding her mainly bm but she did get formula) I would have literally gone crazy. Yes BM is better, but I do not subscribe to the notion that formula is bad. It is a valid nutrition source...In other words there are worse things to do to a child then feed them formula. I agree with you. Whatever works. Staying home, working outside the home, breastfed, formula fed, cloth or disposable etc etc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 1, 2000 Report Share Posted September 1, 2000 Yes, these are all personal choices that each family makes. I just think that the substance that nourishes our babies for their first year of life should be breastmilk. No ifs, ands, or buts. I do however realize that my ideal is not the way life works. In your situation, you did what you needed to do to get through and continue to BF. But you also knew that you had to keep working at nursing and you persevered. Many moms don't. Formula companies know that offering free samples to BF moms are going to undermine many BF relationships. They target the moms who check Breast Only on those sign up sheets. The moms who check Both, or 'bottle only' get fewer incentives. They already have that mom so why should they spend their marketing dollar on them?? And research has shown that a mom who switches from BF to formula is more likely to use formula for the entire first year than a mom who starts off with ABM. Those moms go to cow's milk such sooner, often before 10 months. I think that it is unethical to target a mom who has already made the decision to BF with ABM literature. Formula is not " just fine " . There are many repercussions that may only turn up later in life. Diabetes, Crohn's disease. Obesity, various cancers, the list goes on and on. The choice to use formula is a very personal one...but should never be made blindly. The problem is that in our society, the detrimental effects of formula feeding are covered up and are certainly never presented to an expectant mother unless she knows where to look. Jenn -----Original Message----- From: M. Elliott This is exactly what I was trying to say. Some mothers have such a hard time breastfeeding that they are better parents to supplement with formula. (snip)I've never cried so much in my life and I seriously resented my child. I would just have to put her down and let her cry because at that moment I did not like her. I couldnt believe I felt that way...but I did. Had it not been for the occasional formula bottle (I was still pumping and feeding her mainly bm but she did get formula) I would have literally gone crazy. Yes BM is better, but I do not subscribe to the notion that formula is bad. It is a valid nutrition source...In other words there are worse things to do to a child then feed them formula. I agree with you. Whatever works. Staying home, working outside the home, breastfed, formula fed, cloth or disposable etc etc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 1, 2000 Report Share Posted September 1, 2000 Yes, these are all personal choices that each family makes. I just think that the substance that nourishes our babies for their first year of life should be breastmilk. No ifs, ands, or buts. I do however realize that my ideal is not the way life works. In your situation, you did what you needed to do to get through and continue to BF. But you also knew that you had to keep working at nursing and you persevered. Many moms don't. Formula companies know that offering free samples to BF moms are going to undermine many BF relationships. They target the moms who check Breast Only on those sign up sheets. The moms who check Both, or 'bottle only' get fewer incentives. They already have that mom so why should they spend their marketing dollar on them?? And research has shown that a mom who switches from BF to formula is more likely to use formula for the entire first year than a mom who starts off with ABM. Those moms go to cow's milk such sooner, often before 10 months. I think that it is unethical to target a mom who has already made the decision to BF with ABM literature. Formula is not " just fine " . There are many repercussions that may only turn up later in life. Diabetes, Crohn's disease. Obesity, various cancers, the list goes on and on. The choice to use formula is a very personal one...but should never be made blindly. The problem is that in our society, the detrimental effects of formula feeding are covered up and are certainly never presented to an expectant mother unless she knows where to look. Jenn -----Original Message----- From: M. Elliott This is exactly what I was trying to say. Some mothers have such a hard time breastfeeding that they are better parents to supplement with formula. (snip)I've never cried so much in my life and I seriously resented my child. I would just have to put her down and let her cry because at that moment I did not like her. I couldnt believe I felt that way...but I did. Had it not been for the occasional formula bottle (I was still pumping and feeding her mainly bm but she did get formula) I would have literally gone crazy. Yes BM is better, but I do not subscribe to the notion that formula is bad. It is a valid nutrition source...In other words there are worse things to do to a child then feed them formula. I agree with you. Whatever works. Staying home, working outside the home, breastfed, formula fed, cloth or disposable etc etc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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