Re: dyslexic boys and autoimmune girls?

[Guest guest]

Hey Dawn Rose,

Your brother is just one more example of how sucessfully humans can rewire their

brains if given the correct way to approach the problem. He must have worked

very hard to do so but it sounds like he did it well.

Laurel

Re: dyslexic boys and autoimmune girls?

>Date: Mon, 08 Apr 2002 17:16:16 -0700

>

>Laurel,

>

>This is very interesting what you wrote. And yes, you are right with the

>pockets of brilliance. When my daughter was having trouble in school with

>reading and spelling, she was a straight A student in health, science,

>social studies, music (she listens to a song once and can sing it). In

>school she had two teachers, one was an SLD teacher. They read her tests

>to

>her and she could get the grades she did by listening so well. What she

>reads or hears she doesn't forget it.

>

>

>Some famous people that had dyslexia and were homeschooled:

>

> Graham Bell

> Edison

>Albert Einstein

> Patton

> Washington

>Winston Churchill

>

>Websites: http://www.dyslexia.com/qufame.htm

> http://www.christianhomeschoolers.com/hs/famous.shtm/

>

>I was very surprised in what I found and read about when I first started

>homeschooling.

>

>The year they tested my daughter they were checking 125 students in her

>school district that year. The same school district that has all the

>chemical plants. My husband and I thought this was a high rate of children

>to be testing and the school did also. As we all know chemical plants do

>have releases.

>

>Laurel, is it possible for me to get a copy of the paper you did on the

>handedness and the copy of the 1998 studied you have. I am very much

>interested in these. If not that is alright.

>

>Debbie R.

>

>

>

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>intended to replace expert medical care.

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>

[Guest guest]

Hey Dawn Rose,

Your brother is just one more example of how sucessfully humans can rewire their

brains if given the correct way to approach the problem. He must have worked

very hard to do so but it sounds like he did it well.

Laurel

Re: dyslexic boys and autoimmune girls?

>Date: Mon, 08 Apr 2002 17:16:16 -0700

>

>Laurel,

>

>This is very interesting what you wrote. And yes, you are right with the

>pockets of brilliance. When my daughter was having trouble in school with

>reading and spelling, she was a straight A student in health, science,

>social studies, music (she listens to a song once and can sing it). In

>school she had two teachers, one was an SLD teacher. They read her tests

>to

>her and she could get the grades she did by listening so well. What she

>reads or hears she doesn't forget it.

>

>

>Some famous people that had dyslexia and were homeschooled:

>

> Graham Bell

> Edison

>Albert Einstein

> Patton

> Washington

>Winston Churchill

>

>Websites: http://www.dyslexia.com/qufame.htm

> http://www.christianhomeschoolers.com/hs/famous.shtm/

>

>I was very surprised in what I found and read about when I first started

>homeschooling.

>

>The year they tested my daughter they were checking 125 students in her

>school district that year. The same school district that has all the

>chemical plants. My husband and I thought this was a high rate of children

>to be testing and the school did also. As we all know chemical plants do

>have releases.

>

>Laurel, is it possible for me to get a copy of the paper you did on the

>handedness and the copy of the 1998 studied you have. I am very much

>interested in these. If not that is alright.

>

>Debbie R.

>

>

>

>-------------------------------------

>The Graves' list is intended for informational purposes only and is not

>intended to replace expert medical care.

>Please consult your doctor before changing or trying new treatments.

>----------------------------------------

> DISCLAIMER

>

>Advertisments placed on this yahoo groups list does not have the

>endorsement of

>the listowner. I have no input as to what ads are attached to emails.

>-------------------------------------------------------------------------------\

-------

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hey Dawn Rose,

Your brother is just one more example of how sucessfully humans can rewire their

brains if given the correct way to approach the problem. He must have worked

very hard to do so but it sounds like he did it well.

Laurel

Re: dyslexic boys and autoimmune girls?

>Date: Mon, 08 Apr 2002 17:16:16 -0700

>

>Laurel,

>

>This is very interesting what you wrote. And yes, you are right with the

>pockets of brilliance. When my daughter was having trouble in school with

>reading and spelling, she was a straight A student in health, science,

>social studies, music (she listens to a song once and can sing it). In

>school she had two teachers, one was an SLD teacher. They read her tests

>to

>her and she could get the grades she did by listening so well. What she

>reads or hears she doesn't forget it.

>

>

>Some famous people that had dyslexia and were homeschooled:

>

> Graham Bell

> Edison

>Albert Einstein

> Patton

> Washington

>Winston Churchill

>

>Websites: http://www.dyslexia.com/qufame.htm

> http://www.christianhomeschoolers.com/hs/famous.shtm/

>

>I was very surprised in what I found and read about when I first started

>homeschooling.

>

>The year they tested my daughter they were checking 125 students in her

>school district that year. The same school district that has all the

>chemical plants. My husband and I thought this was a high rate of children

>to be testing and the school did also. As we all know chemical plants do

>have releases.

>

>Laurel, is it possible for me to get a copy of the paper you did on the

>handedness and the copy of the 1998 studied you have. I am very much

>interested in these. If not that is alright.

>

>Debbie R.

>

>

>

>-------------------------------------

>The Graves' list is intended for informational purposes only and is not

>intended to replace expert medical care.

>Please consult your doctor before changing or trying new treatments.

>----------------------------------------

> DISCLAIMER

>

>Advertisments placed on this yahoo groups list does not have the

>endorsement of

>the listowner. I have no input as to what ads are attached to emails.

>-------------------------------------------------------------------------------\

-------

>

>

[Guest guest]

HI Laurel

Now I am not in digest form I hope it is easier to mail to you.

Thanks for posting your info to the list. I wasn't sure about raising the

subject of dyslexia but now I am glad to have found others in the same position

& also that you were able to help.

I was thinking again about the lefthandness & I remembered by grandfather was

lefthanded & so is one of my cousins. I've no idea if they had dyslexia. I think

you may have read my earlier post about my son being ambidextrous when he was

younger.

There are certainly alot of 3D thinkers in the family- my father ( now deceased

- I am sure he was dyslexic) my 2 nephews & my son. I am interested in the

genetic link & my other interest is family history. I have come across several

sistant cousins one of whom ( & his son & grandchildren)is dyslexic but so far

no one else with thyroid stuff.

Also to those of you whom wanted other info ,ther eis some research that omega

3 & 6 can help some dyslexic children & yes there are lots of famous dyslexics -

Tom Cruise, Branson, Eddie Izzard, Lynda la Plante, Zephaniah,

- yes I know most of you in the US will think ???? to most of these!!

And - I think you said that your son can spell a word but not read it?

I have a friend whose daughter is the same - apparently it's all to do with how

the brain processes information. Dyslexia is different in different people -

some have problems with organising themselves - you know the person who is

always late to a meeting & rushes in with a pile of papers which they drop

everywhere? but might be able to spell & read perfectly? Could be dyslexia.

One of my nephews- they are both adults- can not get himself anywhere on time

but can not spell & has terrible handwriting - the other one has even worse

spelling & still stuggles with reading but is always organised. they both have

degrees.

That's it for tonight

Take care

dyslexic boys and autoimmune girls?

>

>

>>

>>This is true of our family - my Dad and my brother are dyslexic, so far I

>am

>>the only gal diagnosed with Graves' disease, though there are some Aunts

>>with suspicious symptoms who were written off as

>> " difficult/depressed/'orrible, back in the family tree.

>>

>>DAWN ROSE

>>

>>

>>_________________________________________________________________

>>Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com

>>

>>

>>

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>intended to replace expert medical care.

>>Please consult your doctor before changing or trying new treatments.

>>----------------------------------------

>> DISCLAIMER

>>

>>Advertisments placed on this yahoo groups list does not have the

>endorsement of

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>>--------------------------------------------------------------------------

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>-----------

>>

>>

[Guest guest]

HI Laurel

Now I am not in digest form I hope it is easier to mail to you.

Thanks for posting your info to the list. I wasn't sure about raising the

subject of dyslexia but now I am glad to have found others in the same position

& also that you were able to help.

I was thinking again about the lefthandness & I remembered by grandfather was

lefthanded & so is one of my cousins. I've no idea if they had dyslexia. I think

you may have read my earlier post about my son being ambidextrous when he was

younger.

There are certainly alot of 3D thinkers in the family- my father ( now deceased

- I am sure he was dyslexic) my 2 nephews & my son. I am interested in the

genetic link & my other interest is family history. I have come across several

sistant cousins one of whom ( & his son & grandchildren)is dyslexic but so far

no one else with thyroid stuff.

Also to those of you whom wanted other info ,ther eis some research that omega

3 & 6 can help some dyslexic children & yes there are lots of famous dyslexics -

Tom Cruise, Branson, Eddie Izzard, Lynda la Plante, Zephaniah,

- yes I know most of you in the US will think ???? to most of these!!

And - I think you said that your son can spell a word but not read it?

I have a friend whose daughter is the same - apparently it's all to do with how

the brain processes information. Dyslexia is different in different people -

some have problems with organising themselves - you know the person who is

always late to a meeting & rushes in with a pile of papers which they drop

everywhere? but might be able to spell & read perfectly? Could be dyslexia.

One of my nephews- they are both adults- can not get himself anywhere on time

but can not spell & has terrible handwriting - the other one has even worse

spelling & still stuggles with reading but is always organised. they both have

degrees.

That's it for tonight

Take care

dyslexic boys and autoimmune girls?

>

>

>>

>>This is true of our family - my Dad and my brother are dyslexic, so far I

>am

>>the only gal diagnosed with Graves' disease, though there are some Aunts

>>with suspicious symptoms who were written off as

>> " difficult/depressed/'orrible, back in the family tree.

>>

>>DAWN ROSE

>>

>>

>>_________________________________________________________________

>>Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com

>>

>>

>>

>>-------------------------------------

>>The Graves' list is intended for informational purposes only and is not

>intended to replace expert medical care.

>>Please consult your doctor before changing or trying new treatments.

>>----------------------------------------

>> DISCLAIMER

>>

>>Advertisments placed on this yahoo groups list does not have the

>endorsement of

>>the listowner. I have no input as to what ads are attached to emails.

>>--------------------------------------------------------------------------

-

>-----------

>>

>>

[Guest guest]

HI Laurel

Now I am not in digest form I hope it is easier to mail to you.

Thanks for posting your info to the list. I wasn't sure about raising the

subject of dyslexia but now I am glad to have found others in the same position

& also that you were able to help.

I was thinking again about the lefthandness & I remembered by grandfather was

lefthanded & so is one of my cousins. I've no idea if they had dyslexia. I think

you may have read my earlier post about my son being ambidextrous when he was

younger.

There are certainly alot of 3D thinkers in the family- my father ( now deceased

- I am sure he was dyslexic) my 2 nephews & my son. I am interested in the

genetic link & my other interest is family history. I have come across several

sistant cousins one of whom ( & his son & grandchildren)is dyslexic but so far

no one else with thyroid stuff.

Also to those of you whom wanted other info ,ther eis some research that omega

3 & 6 can help some dyslexic children & yes there are lots of famous dyslexics -

Tom Cruise, Branson, Eddie Izzard, Lynda la Plante, Zephaniah,

- yes I know most of you in the US will think ???? to most of these!!

And - I think you said that your son can spell a word but not read it?

I have a friend whose daughter is the same - apparently it's all to do with how

the brain processes information. Dyslexia is different in different people -

some have problems with organising themselves - you know the person who is

always late to a meeting & rushes in with a pile of papers which they drop

everywhere? but might be able to spell & read perfectly? Could be dyslexia.

One of my nephews- they are both adults- can not get himself anywhere on time

but can not spell & has terrible handwriting - the other one has even worse

spelling & still stuggles with reading but is always organised. they both have

degrees.

That's it for tonight

Take care

dyslexic boys and autoimmune girls?

>

>

>>

>>This is true of our family - my Dad and my brother are dyslexic, so far I

>am

>>the only gal diagnosed with Graves' disease, though there are some Aunts

>>with suspicious symptoms who were written off as

>> " difficult/depressed/'orrible, back in the family tree.

>>

>>DAWN ROSE

>>

>>

>>_________________________________________________________________

>>Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com

>>

>>

>>

>>-------------------------------------

>>The Graves' list is intended for informational purposes only and is not

>intended to replace expert medical care.

>>Please consult your doctor before changing or trying new treatments.

>>----------------------------------------

>> DISCLAIMER

>>

>>Advertisments placed on this yahoo groups list does not have the

>endorsement of

>>the listowner. I have no input as to what ads are attached to emails.

>>--------------------------------------------------------------------------

-

>-----------

>>

>>

[Guest guest]

,

I had flagged this last week to respond. Sorry it took so long. Had a steroid

injection to try to alleviate a spinal stenosis and its related problems.

I wanted to let you know that the Geschwind and Galaburda theory (a.k.a. G & G)

is one place you might want to gather information about the relationship between

autoimmune disease and hand dominance. Remember that autoimmunity is related,

whether it is Graves disease or Lupus or whatever. Some of us have more than

one autoimmune disease.

G & G claims that elevated levels of testosterone are responsible for deviations

from the normal dominance pattern. Their big paper was written back in 1987.

There have been some further theoretical developments in the ensuing years but

the idea is that the patterns of most brains includes a larger (slightly) left

side. This is normally where we stick language. Even most lefties do that, in

an area including and surrounding something referred to as Broca's area after

the Frenchman Broca. G & G addresses the fact that levels of hormones,

especially testosterone, as well as genes, and genes on the X chrosome and

chromosome 15 are responsible. So you see there might (remember all this is

theory) be genetic as well as hormonal influences. Or perhaps in families the

genetic factors trigger the hormonal influences.

So, they think, that if testosterone levels are higher than normal due to

genetic factors, increased sensitivity to testosterone, (receptors for this

hormone are found all over the brain), the presence of a mail co-twin, or a

unusual endocrine environment during pregnancy, the results probably result in

some fundamental changes in anatomy. They thought that, because this process

delays growth in the left hemisphere (language et. al.) that the right

hemisphere compensates and this forces the right hemisphere to grow more quickly

than it otherwise would. Remember that the right hemisphere controls the kinds

of stuff we have been talking about on the list such as visual-spatial ability.

There is a lot of other things as well. The left, language, acoustic signals,

graphemes (the little squiggles like letters and numbers)

Of course there are other theories as well. There is one that postulates that

some individuals have no genetic coding for handedness and so half of those will

be lefties by default. There does seem to be some correlation with autoimmunity

and handedness that is hard to dismiss thought. If you really get into this

(and it IS facinating) remember that gender as well as sexual preference will

make a difference in where someone wires certain things. (In fact the sexual

preferrence is strongly related to early interuterine environment and hormone

levels. The correlation here seems to indicate that sexual preference is hard

wired at birth and just waits for puberty to emerge.)

If this goes to the list I apologize to everybody for bringing this back up.

Hope you all are not tired of reading about it yet.

Laurel

dyslexic boys and autoimmune girls?

>

>

>>

>>This is true of our family - my Dad and my brother are dyslexic, so far I

>am

>>the only gal diagnosed with Graves' disease, though there are some Aunts

>>with suspicious symptoms who were written off as

>> " difficult/depressed/'orrible, back in the family tree.

>>

>>DAWN ROSE

>>

>>

>>_________________________________________________________________

>>Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com

>>

>>

>>

>>-------------------------------------

>>The Graves' list is intended for informational purposes only and is not

>intended to replace expert medical care.

>>Please consult your doctor before changing or trying new treatments.

>>----------------------------------------

>> DISCLAIMER

>>

>>Advertisments placed on this yahoo groups list does not have the

>endorsement of

>>the listowner. I have no input as to what ads are attached to emails.

>>--------------------------------------------------------------------------

-

>-----------

>>

>>

[Guest guest]

,

I had flagged this last week to respond. Sorry it took so long. Had a steroid

injection to try to alleviate a spinal stenosis and its related problems.

I wanted to let you know that the Geschwind and Galaburda theory (a.k.a. G & G)

is one place you might want to gather information about the relationship between

autoimmune disease and hand dominance. Remember that autoimmunity is related,

whether it is Graves disease or Lupus or whatever. Some of us have more than

one autoimmune disease.

G & G claims that elevated levels of testosterone are responsible for deviations

from the normal dominance pattern. Their big paper was written back in 1987.

There have been some further theoretical developments in the ensuing years but

the idea is that the patterns of most brains includes a larger (slightly) left

side. This is normally where we stick language. Even most lefties do that, in

an area including and surrounding something referred to as Broca's area after

the Frenchman Broca. G & G addresses the fact that levels of hormones,

especially testosterone, as well as genes, and genes on the X chrosome and

chromosome 15 are responsible. So you see there might (remember all this is

theory) be genetic as well as hormonal influences. Or perhaps in families the

genetic factors trigger the hormonal influences.

So, they think, that if testosterone levels are higher than normal due to

genetic factors, increased sensitivity to testosterone, (receptors for this

hormone are found all over the brain), the presence of a mail co-twin, or a

unusual endocrine environment during pregnancy, the results probably result in

some fundamental changes in anatomy. They thought that, because this process

delays growth in the left hemisphere (language et. al.) that the right

hemisphere compensates and this forces the right hemisphere to grow more quickly

than it otherwise would. Remember that the right hemisphere controls the kinds

of stuff we have been talking about on the list such as visual-spatial ability.

There is a lot of other things as well. The left, language, acoustic signals,

graphemes (the little squiggles like letters and numbers)

Of course there are other theories as well. There is one that postulates that

some individuals have no genetic coding for handedness and so half of those will

be lefties by default. There does seem to be some correlation with autoimmunity

and handedness that is hard to dismiss thought. If you really get into this

(and it IS facinating) remember that gender as well as sexual preference will

make a difference in where someone wires certain things. (In fact the sexual

preferrence is strongly related to early interuterine environment and hormone

levels. The correlation here seems to indicate that sexual preference is hard

wired at birth and just waits for puberty to emerge.)

If this goes to the list I apologize to everybody for bringing this back up.

Hope you all are not tired of reading about it yet.

Laurel

dyslexic boys and autoimmune girls?

>

>

>>

>>This is true of our family - my Dad and my brother are dyslexic, so far I

>am

>>the only gal diagnosed with Graves' disease, though there are some Aunts

>>with suspicious symptoms who were written off as

>> " difficult/depressed/'orrible, back in the family tree.

>>

>>DAWN ROSE

>>

>>

>>_________________________________________________________________

>>Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com

>>

>>

>>

>>-------------------------------------

>>The Graves' list is intended for informational purposes only and is not

>intended to replace expert medical care.

>>Please consult your doctor before changing or trying new treatments.

>>----------------------------------------

>> DISCLAIMER

>>

>>Advertisments placed on this yahoo groups list does not have the

>endorsement of

>>the listowner. I have no input as to what ads are attached to emails.

>>--------------------------------------------------------------------------

-

>-----------

>>

>>

[Guest guest]

,

I had flagged this last week to respond. Sorry it took so long. Had a steroid

injection to try to alleviate a spinal stenosis and its related problems.

I wanted to let you know that the Geschwind and Galaburda theory (a.k.a. G & G)

is one place you might want to gather information about the relationship between

autoimmune disease and hand dominance. Remember that autoimmunity is related,

whether it is Graves disease or Lupus or whatever. Some of us have more than

one autoimmune disease.

G & G claims that elevated levels of testosterone are responsible for deviations

from the normal dominance pattern. Their big paper was written back in 1987.

There have been some further theoretical developments in the ensuing years but

the idea is that the patterns of most brains includes a larger (slightly) left

side. This is normally where we stick language. Even most lefties do that, in

an area including and surrounding something referred to as Broca's area after

the Frenchman Broca. G & G addresses the fact that levels of hormones,

especially testosterone, as well as genes, and genes on the X chrosome and

chromosome 15 are responsible. So you see there might (remember all this is

theory) be genetic as well as hormonal influences. Or perhaps in families the

genetic factors trigger the hormonal influences.

So, they think, that if testosterone levels are higher than normal due to

genetic factors, increased sensitivity to testosterone, (receptors for this

hormone are found all over the brain), the presence of a mail co-twin, or a

unusual endocrine environment during pregnancy, the results probably result in

some fundamental changes in anatomy. They thought that, because this process

delays growth in the left hemisphere (language et. al.) that the right

hemisphere compensates and this forces the right hemisphere to grow more quickly

than it otherwise would. Remember that the right hemisphere controls the kinds

of stuff we have been talking about on the list such as visual-spatial ability.

There is a lot of other things as well. The left, language, acoustic signals,

graphemes (the little squiggles like letters and numbers)

Of course there are other theories as well. There is one that postulates that

some individuals have no genetic coding for handedness and so half of those will

be lefties by default. There does seem to be some correlation with autoimmunity

and handedness that is hard to dismiss thought. If you really get into this

(and it IS facinating) remember that gender as well as sexual preference will

make a difference in where someone wires certain things. (In fact the sexual

preferrence is strongly related to early interuterine environment and hormone

levels. The correlation here seems to indicate that sexual preference is hard

wired at birth and just waits for puberty to emerge.)

If this goes to the list I apologize to everybody for bringing this back up.

Hope you all are not tired of reading about it yet.

Laurel

dyslexic boys and autoimmune girls?

>

>

>>

>>This is true of our family - my Dad and my brother are dyslexic, so far I

>am

>>the only gal diagnosed with Graves' disease, though there are some Aunts

>>with suspicious symptoms who were written off as

>> " difficult/depressed/'orrible, back in the family tree.

>>

>>DAWN ROSE

>>

>>

>>_________________________________________________________________

>>Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com

>>

>>

>>

>>-------------------------------------

>>The Graves' list is intended for informational purposes only and is not

>intended to replace expert medical care.

>>Please consult your doctor before changing or trying new treatments.

>>----------------------------------------

>> DISCLAIMER

>>

>>Advertisments placed on this yahoo groups list does not have the

>endorsement of

>>the listowner. I have no input as to what ads are attached to emails.

>>--------------------------------------------------------------------------

-

>-----------

>>

>>

[Guest guest]

HI Laurel

Thanks for posting this to the group. Yes it is fascinating. I was wondering if

in my family it's the genetic trigger? I think it's weird that my sister & I

have sons with dyslexia - neither of us had daughters.I know my dad was a 3D

thinker but I am not aware that he had any kkind of readiing/ spelling problem.

My uncle is still alive - I do wonder if he is dyslexic - he is always late for

everything. My sister is always losing things( house keys). My desk is piled

high with paper & I am sure I have some dyspraxia.

I can't rememeber if I told you I am doing my family tree.So far I have found

the dyslexia in one 4th cousin once removed on my paternal grandfather's side.

It doesn't really tell me much as the dyslexia gene is very common.

Could it possible for both myself & my sister to have hormonal changes in

pregancy that cause the dyslexia?

Thanks

dyslexic boys and autoimmune girls?

>

>

>>

>>This is true of our family - my Dad and my brother are dyslexic, so far I

>am

>>the only gal diagnosed with Graves' disease, though there are some Aunts

>>with suspicious symptoms who were written off as

>> " difficult/depressed/'orrible, back in the family tree.

>>

>>DAWN ROSE

>>

>>

>>_________________________________________________________________

>>Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com

>>

>>

>>

>>-------------------------------------

>>The Graves' list is intended for informational purposes only and is not

>intended to replace expert medical care.

>>Please consult your doctor before changing or trying new treatments.

>>----------------------------------------

>> DISCLAIMER

>>

>>Advertisments placed on this yahoo groups list does not have the

>endorsement of

>>the listowner. I have no input as to what ads are attached to emails.

>>--------------------------------------------------------------------------

-

>-----------

>>

>>

[Guest guest]

HI Laurel

Thanks for posting this to the group. Yes it is fascinating. I was wondering if

in my family it's the genetic trigger? I think it's weird that my sister & I

have sons with dyslexia - neither of us had daughters.I know my dad was a 3D

thinker but I am not aware that he had any kkind of readiing/ spelling problem.

My uncle is still alive - I do wonder if he is dyslexic - he is always late for

everything. My sister is always losing things( house keys). My desk is piled

high with paper & I am sure I have some dyspraxia.

I can't rememeber if I told you I am doing my family tree.So far I have found

the dyslexia in one 4th cousin once removed on my paternal grandfather's side.

It doesn't really tell me much as the dyslexia gene is very common.

Could it possible for both myself & my sister to have hormonal changes in

pregancy that cause the dyslexia?

Thanks

dyslexic boys and autoimmune girls?

>

>

>>

>>This is true of our family - my Dad and my brother are dyslexic, so far I

>am

>>the only gal diagnosed with Graves' disease, though there are some Aunts

>>with suspicious symptoms who were written off as

>> " difficult/depressed/'orrible, back in the family tree.

>>

>>DAWN ROSE

>>

>>

>>_________________________________________________________________

>>Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com

>>

>>

>>

>>-------------------------------------

>>The Graves' list is intended for informational purposes only and is not

>intended to replace expert medical care.

>>Please consult your doctor before changing or trying new treatments.

>>----------------------------------------

>> DISCLAIMER

>>

>>Advertisments placed on this yahoo groups list does not have the

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HI Laurel

Thanks for posting this to the group. Yes it is fascinating. I was wondering if

in my family it's the genetic trigger? I think it's weird that my sister & I

have sons with dyslexia - neither of us had daughters.I know my dad was a 3D

thinker but I am not aware that he had any kkind of readiing/ spelling problem.

My uncle is still alive - I do wonder if he is dyslexic - he is always late for

everything. My sister is always losing things( house keys). My desk is piled

high with paper & I am sure I have some dyspraxia.

I can't rememeber if I told you I am doing my family tree.So far I have found

the dyslexia in one 4th cousin once removed on my paternal grandfather's side.

It doesn't really tell me much as the dyslexia gene is very common.

Could it possible for both myself & my sister to have hormonal changes in

pregancy that cause the dyslexia?

Thanks

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Hey ,

Its possible that both you and your sister have the necessary genetic

combination. Of course its possible that you don't. I'd be very cautious about

it unless they discover with absolute assurance which genes are involved and

then, whether or not you both have them. Its certainly worth thinking about

though. And, those of us who have kids, are always looking for ways that we can

spare our kids any discomfort. So if the gene might be in your family you are

going to be looking for the signs earlier right?

It may be the having the gene influences the hormonal changes in pregnancy. We

just don't know yet. And, remember G and G is only one theory. Its far from

being proven, even though there is some strong anecdotal evidence to indicate it

might be correct.

Have you always had the dyspraxia? Or is it something that happened at some

later date in your life. (Some days I'm just plain clumsy and I get to blame it

on the Graves')

My own personal take on all this is that dyslexia is one of those human

variations that may be a good thing in disguise. Remember that, at least

according to Darwin, humans evolved because some of them developed an adaptation

that caused them to have a better chance of survival and passing that

combination to offspring. I can't imagine dyslexia being much of a problem

until we all became literate. Now its a big deal. Will we be short sighted

enough to label dyslexics as ill. I sure hope not. Because I still think that

what they lose in reading skills they make up for in other areas. I think we

need to change their educational system. Teach them to learn the material in

their own way. which is exactly what you are doing.

When this discussion was going around a couple of weeks ago someone mentioned

Einstein. He had an " abnormal " brain. And nearly failed math. You be the

judge.

Good Luck,

Laurel

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>>

>>This is true of our family - my Dad and my brother are dyslexic, so far I

>am

>>the only gal diagnosed with Graves' disease, though there are some Aunts

>>with suspicious symptoms who were written off as

>> " difficult/depressed/'orrible, back in the family tree.

>>

>>DAWN ROSE

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Hey ,

Its possible that both you and your sister have the necessary genetic

combination. Of course its possible that you don't. I'd be very cautious about

it unless they discover with absolute assurance which genes are involved and

then, whether or not you both have them. Its certainly worth thinking about

though. And, those of us who have kids, are always looking for ways that we can

spare our kids any discomfort. So if the gene might be in your family you are

going to be looking for the signs earlier right?

It may be the having the gene influences the hormonal changes in pregnancy. We

just don't know yet. And, remember G and G is only one theory. Its far from

being proven, even though there is some strong anecdotal evidence to indicate it

might be correct.

Have you always had the dyspraxia? Or is it something that happened at some

later date in your life. (Some days I'm just plain clumsy and I get to blame it

on the Graves')

My own personal take on all this is that dyslexia is one of those human

variations that may be a good thing in disguise. Remember that, at least

according to Darwin, humans evolved because some of them developed an adaptation

that caused them to have a better chance of survival and passing that

combination to offspring. I can't imagine dyslexia being much of a problem

until we all became literate. Now its a big deal. Will we be short sighted

enough to label dyslexics as ill. I sure hope not. Because I still think that

what they lose in reading skills they make up for in other areas. I think we

need to change their educational system. Teach them to learn the material in

their own way. which is exactly what you are doing.

When this discussion was going around a couple of weeks ago someone mentioned

Einstein. He had an " abnormal " brain. And nearly failed math. You be the

judge.

Good Luck,

Laurel

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>

>>

>>This is true of our family - my Dad and my brother are dyslexic, so far I

>am

>>the only gal diagnosed with Graves' disease, though there are some Aunts

>>with suspicious symptoms who were written off as

>> " difficult/depressed/'orrible, back in the family tree.

>>

>>DAWN ROSE

>>

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Hi Laurel

Thanks again for your wisdom. I know my sister & I will be looking for it in our

grandchildren. Some of our cousins on my fathers' side may be dyslexic - not

sure - & none of them have had children yet.We will certainly be looking for it.

I think I was more dyspraxic as a child - I was clumsy, had flat feet, couldn't

catch a ball or hit one in rounders; also I used to pick up accents very

easily. I did ballet for years and I realise now that it probably helped me with

coordination & balance.

I definitely think dyslexia is a gift I can't do a lot of the things my son can

do - he just sees things in his head.

Take care

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>

>>

>>This is true of our family - my Dad and my brother are dyslexic, so far

I

>am

>>the only gal diagnosed with Graves' disease, though there are some Aunts

>>with suspicious symptoms who were written off as

>> " difficult/depressed/'orrible, back in the family tree.

>>

>>DAWN ROSE

>>

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Hi Laurel

Thanks again for your wisdom. I know my sister & I will be looking for it in our

grandchildren. Some of our cousins on my fathers' side may be dyslexic - not

sure - & none of them have had children yet.We will certainly be looking for it.

I think I was more dyspraxic as a child - I was clumsy, had flat feet, couldn't

catch a ball or hit one in rounders; also I used to pick up accents very

easily. I did ballet for years and I realise now that it probably helped me with

coordination & balance.

I definitely think dyslexia is a gift I can't do a lot of the things my son can

do - he just sees things in his head.

Take care

dyslexic boys and autoimmune girls?

>

>

>>

>>This is true of our family - my Dad and my brother are dyslexic, so far

I

>am

>>the only gal diagnosed with Graves' disease, though there are some Aunts

>>with suspicious symptoms who were written off as

>> " difficult/depressed/'orrible, back in the family tree.

>>

>>DAWN ROSE

>>

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Hi Laurel

Thanks again for your wisdom. I know my sister & I will be looking for it in our

grandchildren. Some of our cousins on my fathers' side may be dyslexic - not

sure - & none of them have had children yet.We will certainly be looking for it.

I think I was more dyspraxic as a child - I was clumsy, had flat feet, couldn't

catch a ball or hit one in rounders; also I used to pick up accents very

easily. I did ballet for years and I realise now that it probably helped me with

coordination & balance.

I definitely think dyslexia is a gift I can't do a lot of the things my son can

do - he just sees things in his head.

Take care

dyslexic boys and autoimmune girls?

>

>

>>

>>This is true of our family - my Dad and my brother are dyslexic, so far

I

>am

>>the only gal diagnosed with Graves' disease, though there are some Aunts

>>with suspicious symptoms who were written off as

>> " difficult/depressed/'orrible, back in the family tree.

>>

>>DAWN ROSE

>>

>>

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You hit another idiosyncrasy. The accent thing. How many of us do you think

pick up accents easily? If its true that the autoimmune and the lefty thing are

related, I wonder if the accent thing isn't as well. Its not semantics or

syntax but more the emotional weight of language which should be a right sided

phenomena.

My left handed daughter speaks four languages and is working on her fifth.

Picks up words easily and can imitate an accent like a native. They say that

you have to be a kid (like under 14) to be able to do that but I'm going to

guess that lefties do it better.

Maybe this is our next survey?

Laurel

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>

>>

>>This is true of our family - my Dad and my brother are dyslexic, so far

I

>am

>>the only gal diagnosed with Graves' disease, though there are some Aunts

>>with suspicious symptoms who were written off as

>> " difficult/depressed/'orrible, back in the family tree.

>>

>>DAWN ROSE

>>

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You hit another idiosyncrasy. The accent thing. How many of us do you think

pick up accents easily? If its true that the autoimmune and the lefty thing are

related, I wonder if the accent thing isn't as well. Its not semantics or

syntax but more the emotional weight of language which should be a right sided

phenomena.

My left handed daughter speaks four languages and is working on her fifth.

Picks up words easily and can imitate an accent like a native. They say that

you have to be a kid (like under 14) to be able to do that but I'm going to

guess that lefties do it better.

Maybe this is our next survey?

Laurel

dyslexic boys and autoimmune girls?

>

>

>>

>>This is true of our family - my Dad and my brother are dyslexic, so far

I

>am

>>the only gal diagnosed with Graves' disease, though there are some Aunts

>>with suspicious symptoms who were written off as

>> " difficult/depressed/'orrible, back in the family tree.

>>

>>DAWN ROSE

>>

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,

You hit another idiosyncrasy. The accent thing. How many of us do you think

pick up accents easily? If its true that the autoimmune and the lefty thing are

related, I wonder if the accent thing isn't as well. Its not semantics or

syntax but more the emotional weight of language which should be a right sided

phenomena.

My left handed daughter speaks four languages and is working on her fifth.

Picks up words easily and can imitate an accent like a native. They say that

you have to be a kid (like under 14) to be able to do that but I'm going to

guess that lefties do it better.

Maybe this is our next survey?

Laurel

dyslexic boys and autoimmune girls?

>

>

>>

>>This is true of our family - my Dad and my brother are dyslexic, so far

I

>am

>>the only gal diagnosed with Graves' disease, though there are some Aunts

>>with suspicious symptoms who were written off as

>> " difficult/depressed/'orrible, back in the family tree.

>>

>>DAWN ROSE

>>

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HI Laurel

Lots of coincidences

I was told by someone I met at a conference that there is anecdotal evidence to

link dyspraxia with a natural ear for music & the ability to mimic accents(

without even being aware of it sometimes) & a gift for languages.

I was a bit musical at school was good at languages. has been learning

French for about 6 months - he can understand what is spoken but can not write

it at all!

I think it is quite possible that the accent thing goes with left handedness as

well- it's probably linked to the same parts of the brain.

Take care

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>>

>>This is true of our family - my Dad and my brother are dyslexic, so

far I

>am

>>the only gal diagnosed with Graves' disease, though there are some

Aunts

>>with suspicious symptoms who were written off as

>> " difficult/depressed/'orrible, back in the family tree.

>>

>>DAWN ROSE

>>

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Laurel,

I pick up accents really really quick!

Jody

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Laurel,

I pick up accents really really quick!

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Laurel,

I pick up accents really really quick!

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I'd have to agree with you on this one. What you say makes sense. Don't you

wish that somebody would do a study on this? You could really challenge your

son with something like Mandarin or another tone language. That would be a

really fun experiment.

Laurel

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>>

>>This is true of our family - my Dad and my brother are dyslexic, so

far I

>am

>>the only gal diagnosed with Graves' disease, though there are some

Aunts

>>with suspicious symptoms who were written off as

>> " difficult/depressed/'orrible, back in the family tree.

>>

>>DAWN ROSE

>>

>>

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