Re: Sad Day in Ems

[Guest guest]

" Explain why HPD officers have been reassigned for 'not meeting ticket

writing production goals'? "

Because they aren't generating enough revenue. Again, revenues are plowed

back into municipal services. Profits are divided up among investors. The

HPD priority isn't making profits, its public safety, despite the ticket

quotas, which is more about ensuring that the officers are " working " than

generating revenue for the city. Otherwise, they'd have every cop on the

payroll out writing tickets.

" Explain why the City of Houston auctioned off sections of freeway (for very

big bucks)to wrecker services, inducing them to tow people not impeding

traffic? This is another hidden tax, and it effects the less affluent more

than those better off. "

To generate revenue and improve traffic flow.

" If the run record is clearer, so that some high school graduate in CMS can

understand and not reject it, causing an appeal, what is wrong with that? "

Nothing at all. It improves the collection rates for billing that generates

more revenue for the service. Its something that any responsible municipal

service should do. I didn't say it was bad.

The point was to contrast it with a system that isn't concerned with

anything except profits.

Improving your billing is good. Firing all your long term medics to hire new

ones that cost you less and are easily intimidated is bad.

One was a municipal system who's main goal was public service, the other was

a private service who's main focus was profits.

magnetass sends

Re: Re: Sad Day in Ems

>

>

> -- " Brown " wrote:

> " Generating revenue and generating profit are 2 different things. "

>

> Explain why HPD officers have been reassigned for 'not meeting ticket

> writing production goals'?

>

> Explain why the City of Houston auctioned off sections of freeway (for

> very big bucks)to wrecker services, inducing them to tow people not

> impeding traffic? This is another hidden tax, and it effects the less

> affluent more than those better off.

>

>

> " I have recieved instruction as to how to write better, more detailed run

> reports in order to increase revenue. "

>

> If the run record is clearer, so that some high school graduate in CMS can

> understand and not reject it, causing an appeal, what is wrong with that?

>

>

> " I have been told that a long-term employee is a drain on a company

> because they cost more than a new-hire, in order to increase profits. "

>

> I agree, that is wrong, short sighted, hurts morale and in the long run,

> inefficient.

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

" Explain why HPD officers have been reassigned for 'not meeting ticket

writing production goals'? "

Because they aren't generating enough revenue. Again, revenues are plowed

back into municipal services. Profits are divided up among investors. The

HPD priority isn't making profits, its public safety, despite the ticket

quotas, which is more about ensuring that the officers are " working " than

generating revenue for the city. Otherwise, they'd have every cop on the

payroll out writing tickets.

" Explain why the City of Houston auctioned off sections of freeway (for very

big bucks)to wrecker services, inducing them to tow people not impeding

traffic? This is another hidden tax, and it effects the less affluent more

than those better off. "

To generate revenue and improve traffic flow.

" If the run record is clearer, so that some high school graduate in CMS can

understand and not reject it, causing an appeal, what is wrong with that? "

Nothing at all. It improves the collection rates for billing that generates

more revenue for the service. Its something that any responsible municipal

service should do. I didn't say it was bad.

The point was to contrast it with a system that isn't concerned with

anything except profits.

Improving your billing is good. Firing all your long term medics to hire new

ones that cost you less and are easily intimidated is bad.

One was a municipal system who's main goal was public service, the other was

a private service who's main focus was profits.

magnetass sends

Re: Re: Sad Day in Ems

>

>

> -- " Brown " wrote:

> " Generating revenue and generating profit are 2 different things. "

>

> Explain why HPD officers have been reassigned for 'not meeting ticket

> writing production goals'?

>

> Explain why the City of Houston auctioned off sections of freeway (for

> very big bucks)to wrecker services, inducing them to tow people not

> impeding traffic? This is another hidden tax, and it effects the less

> affluent more than those better off.

>

>

> " I have recieved instruction as to how to write better, more detailed run

> reports in order to increase revenue. "

>

> If the run record is clearer, so that some high school graduate in CMS can

> understand and not reject it, causing an appeal, what is wrong with that?

>

>

> " I have been told that a long-term employee is a drain on a company

> because they cost more than a new-hire, in order to increase profits. "

>

> I agree, that is wrong, short sighted, hurts morale and in the long run,

> inefficient.

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 1/17/2005 12:37:48 A.M. Central Standard Time,

THEDUDMAN@... writes:

Show me any public EMS manager/director/chief who is not daily concerned and

monitoring revenue and expenses to make sure that revenue exceeds expenses

and makes decisions accordingly...and I will show you a manager who is very

soon to be searching for a new job.

Public EMS agencies have stockholders too...they are called tax payers.

Dudley

You are looking at one. I am not about to be replaced real soon either

unless I suddenly Keel over dead. Everyone thinks taxpayers are at the heals

of

anyone that doesn't make a profit. The taxpayers of my town are proud to

have the great service at a reasonable cost. They know the have a top service

and want to keep it. I will go into further detail if you are willing to

legitimately listen and will email me off line.

Andy Foote, Manager

EMS City of Beaumont

[Guest guest]

In Austin, Austin EMS's revenues do NOT exceed expenses. My tax

dollars help fund that system, meaning that each year that system runs

" in the red. " They have to manage how far in the red they run, but I

don't think any citizen here expects them to make a profit and return

money to the city/county.

Name me one public EMS system that runs " in the black " in a major

metropolitan area.

Mike

>

> Show me any public EMS manager/director/chief who is not daily concerned and

monitoring revenue and expenses to make sure that revenue exceeds expenses and

makes decisions accordingly...and I will show you a manager who is very soon to

be searching for a new job.

>

> Public EMS agencies have stockholders too...they are called tax payers.

>

> Dudley

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

In Austin, Austin EMS's revenues do NOT exceed expenses. My tax

dollars help fund that system, meaning that each year that system runs

" in the red. " They have to manage how far in the red they run, but I

don't think any citizen here expects them to make a profit and return

money to the city/county.

Name me one public EMS system that runs " in the black " in a major

metropolitan area.

Mike

>

> Show me any public EMS manager/director/chief who is not daily concerned and

monitoring revenue and expenses to make sure that revenue exceeds expenses and

makes decisions accordingly...and I will show you a manager who is very soon to

be searching for a new job.

>

> Public EMS agencies have stockholders too...they are called tax payers.

>

> Dudley

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

In Austin, Austin EMS's revenues do NOT exceed expenses. My tax

dollars help fund that system, meaning that each year that system runs

" in the red. " They have to manage how far in the red they run, but I

don't think any citizen here expects them to make a profit and return

money to the city/county.

Name me one public EMS system that runs " in the black " in a major

metropolitan area.

Mike

>

> Show me any public EMS manager/director/chief who is not daily concerned and

monitoring revenue and expenses to make sure that revenue exceeds expenses and

makes decisions accordingly...and I will show you a manager who is very soon to

be searching for a new job.

>

> Public EMS agencies have stockholders too...they are called tax payers.

>

> Dudley

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Austin and San change the lead each year as the most expensive EMS

systems per capita in the United States.

BEB

E. Bledsoe, DO, FACEP

Midlothian, TX

Don't miss EMStock 2005 (http://www.EMStock.com)

Re: Re: Sad Day in Ems

In Austin, Austin EMS's revenues do NOT exceed expenses. My tax dollars

help fund that system, meaning that each year that system runs " in the red. "

They have to manage how far in the red they run, but I don't think any

citizen here expects them to make a profit and return money to the

city/county.

Name me one public EMS system that runs " in the black " in a major

metropolitan area.

Mike

On Mon, 17 Jan 2005 01:36:53 -0500, THEDUDMAN@...

wrote:

>

> Show me any public EMS manager/director/chief who is not daily concerned

and monitoring revenue and expenses to make sure that revenue exceeds

expenses and makes decisions accordingly...and I will show you a manager who

is very soon to be searching for a new job.

>

> Public EMS agencies have stockholders too...they are called tax payers.

>

> Dudley

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Austin and San change the lead each year as the most expensive EMS

systems per capita in the United States.

BEB

E. Bledsoe, DO, FACEP

Midlothian, TX

Don't miss EMStock 2005 (http://www.EMStock.com)

Re: Re: Sad Day in Ems

In Austin, Austin EMS's revenues do NOT exceed expenses. My tax dollars

help fund that system, meaning that each year that system runs " in the red. "

They have to manage how far in the red they run, but I don't think any

citizen here expects them to make a profit and return money to the

city/county.

Name me one public EMS system that runs " in the black " in a major

metropolitan area.

Mike

On Mon, 17 Jan 2005 01:36:53 -0500, THEDUDMAN@...

wrote:

>

> Show me any public EMS manager/director/chief who is not daily concerned

and monitoring revenue and expenses to make sure that revenue exceeds

expenses and makes decisions accordingly...and I will show you a manager who

is very soon to be searching for a new job.

>

> Public EMS agencies have stockholders too...they are called tax payers.

>

> Dudley

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Austin and San change the lead each year as the most expensive EMS

systems per capita in the United States.

BEB

E. Bledsoe, DO, FACEP

Midlothian, TX

Don't miss EMStock 2005 (http://www.EMStock.com)

Re: Re: Sad Day in Ems

In Austin, Austin EMS's revenues do NOT exceed expenses. My tax dollars

help fund that system, meaning that each year that system runs " in the red. "

They have to manage how far in the red they run, but I don't think any

citizen here expects them to make a profit and return money to the

city/county.

Name me one public EMS system that runs " in the black " in a major

metropolitan area.

Mike

On Mon, 17 Jan 2005 01:36:53 -0500, THEDUDMAN@...

wrote:

>

> Show me any public EMS manager/director/chief who is not daily concerned

and monitoring revenue and expenses to make sure that revenue exceeds

expenses and makes decisions accordingly...and I will show you a manager who

is very soon to be searching for a new job.

>

> Public EMS agencies have stockholders too...they are called tax payers.

>

> Dudley

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

That's because Medicaid only pays approximately 30% of what it cost to

provide the service and you can't take the Star Card for payment!

BH

Re: Re: Sad Day in Ems

In Austin, Austin EMS's revenues do NOT exceed expenses. My tax dollars

help fund that system, meaning that each year that system runs " in the

red. " They have to manage how far in the red they run, but I don't think

any citizen here expects them to make a profit and return money to the

city/county.

Name me one public EMS system that runs " in the black " in a major

metropolitan area.

Mike

On Mon, 17 Jan 2005 01:36:53 -0500, THEDUDMAN@...

wrote:

>

> Show me any public EMS manager/director/chief who is not daily

> concerned

and monitoring revenue and expenses to make sure that revenue exceeds

expenses and makes decisions accordingly...and I will show you a manager

who is very soon to be searching for a new job.

>

> Public EMS agencies have stockholders too...they are called tax

> payers.

>

> Dudley

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

That's because Medicaid only pays approximately 30% of what it cost to

provide the service and you can't take the Star Card for payment!

BH

Re: Re: Sad Day in Ems

In Austin, Austin EMS's revenues do NOT exceed expenses. My tax dollars

help fund that system, meaning that each year that system runs " in the

red. " They have to manage how far in the red they run, but I don't think

any citizen here expects them to make a profit and return money to the

city/county.

Name me one public EMS system that runs " in the black " in a major

metropolitan area.

Mike

On Mon, 17 Jan 2005 01:36:53 -0500, THEDUDMAN@...

wrote:

>

> Show me any public EMS manager/director/chief who is not daily

> concerned

and monitoring revenue and expenses to make sure that revenue exceeds

expenses and makes decisions accordingly...and I will show you a manager

who is very soon to be searching for a new job.

>

> Public EMS agencies have stockholders too...they are called tax

> payers.

>

> Dudley

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

That's because Medicaid only pays approximately 30% of what it cost to

provide the service and you can't take the Star Card for payment!

BH

Re: Re: Sad Day in Ems

In Austin, Austin EMS's revenues do NOT exceed expenses. My tax dollars

help fund that system, meaning that each year that system runs " in the

red. " They have to manage how far in the red they run, but I don't think

any citizen here expects them to make a profit and return money to the

city/county.

Name me one public EMS system that runs " in the black " in a major

metropolitan area.

Mike

On Mon, 17 Jan 2005 01:36:53 -0500, THEDUDMAN@...

wrote:

>

> Show me any public EMS manager/director/chief who is not daily

> concerned

and monitoring revenue and expenses to make sure that revenue exceeds

expenses and makes decisions accordingly...and I will show you a manager

who is very soon to be searching for a new job.

>

> Public EMS agencies have stockholders too...they are called tax

> payers.

>

> Dudley

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

,

Can the effectiveness of either system be evaluated? What does the

expenditure buy the consumer?

How do we know whether or not a system is effective?

If I knew the answer to that, I'd be rich. Anybody here rich?

GG

>

> Austin and San change the lead each year as the most expensive EMS

> systems per capita in the United States.

>

> BEB

>

>

> E. Bledsoe, DO, FACEP

> Midlothian, TX

>

> Don't miss EMStock 2005 (http://www.EMStock.com)

>

> Re: Re: Sad Day in Ems

>

>

> In Austin, Austin EMS's revenues do NOT exceed expenses.  My tax dollars

> help fund that system, meaning that each year that system runs " in the red. "

> They have to manage how far in the red they run, but I don't think any

> citizen here expects them to make a profit and return money to the

> city/county.

>

> Name me one public EMS system that runs " in the black " in a major

> metropolitan area.

>

> Mike

>

>

> On Mon, 17 Jan 2005 01:36:53 -0500, THEDUDMAN@...

> wrote:

> >

> > Show me any public EMS manager/director/chief who is not daily concerned

> and monitoring revenue and expenses to make sure that revenue exceeds

> expenses and makes decisions accordingly...and I will show you a manager who

> is very soon to be searching for a new job.

> >

> > Public EMS agencies have stockholders too...they are called tax payers.

> >

> > Dudley

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

,

Can the effectiveness of either system be evaluated? What does the

expenditure buy the consumer?

How do we know whether or not a system is effective?

If I knew the answer to that, I'd be rich. Anybody here rich?

GG

>

> Austin and San change the lead each year as the most expensive EMS

> systems per capita in the United States.

>

> BEB

>

>

> E. Bledsoe, DO, FACEP

> Midlothian, TX

>

> Don't miss EMStock 2005 (http://www.EMStock.com)

>

> Re: Re: Sad Day in Ems

>

>

> In Austin, Austin EMS's revenues do NOT exceed expenses.  My tax dollars

> help fund that system, meaning that each year that system runs " in the red. "

> They have to manage how far in the red they run, but I don't think any

> citizen here expects them to make a profit and return money to the

> city/county.

>

> Name me one public EMS system that runs " in the black " in a major

> metropolitan area.

>

> Mike

>

>

> On Mon, 17 Jan 2005 01:36:53 -0500, THEDUDMAN@...

> wrote:

> >

> > Show me any public EMS manager/director/chief who is not daily concerned

> and monitoring revenue and expenses to make sure that revenue exceeds

> expenses and makes decisions accordingly...and I will show you a manager who

> is very soon to be searching for a new job.

> >

> > Public EMS agencies have stockholders too...they are called tax payers.

> >

> > Dudley

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Yep, and Austin EMS enjoys a very, very high satisfaction and

confidence rating from those it covers. In my opinion, it's money

well spent.

Mike

On Mon, 17 Jan 2005 09:23:10 -0600, Bledsoe

wrote:

>

> Austin and San change the lead each year as the most expensive EMS

> systems per capita in the United States.

>

> BEB

>

> E. Bledsoe, DO, FACEP

> Midlothian, TX

>

> Don't miss EMStock 2005 (http://www.EMStock.com)

>

> Re: Re: Sad Day in Ems

>

> In Austin, Austin EMS's revenues do NOT exceed expenses. My tax dollars

> help fund that system, meaning that each year that system runs " in the red. "

> They have to manage how far in the red they run, but I don't think any

> citizen here expects them to make a profit and return money to the

> city/county.

>

> Name me one public EMS system that runs " in the black " in a major

> metropolitan area.

>

> Mike

>

> On Mon, 17 Jan 2005 01:36:53 -0500, THEDUDMAN@...

> wrote:

> >

> > Show me any public EMS manager/director/chief who is not daily concerned

> and monitoring revenue and expenses to make sure that revenue exceeds

> expenses and makes decisions accordingly...and I will show you a manager who

> is very soon to be searching for a new job.

> >

> > Public EMS agencies have stockholders too...they are called tax payers.

> >

> > Dudley

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Yep, and Austin EMS enjoys a very, very high satisfaction and

confidence rating from those it covers. In my opinion, it's money

well spent.

Mike

On Mon, 17 Jan 2005 09:23:10 -0600, Bledsoe

wrote:

>

> Austin and San change the lead each year as the most expensive EMS

> systems per capita in the United States.

>

> BEB

>

> E. Bledsoe, DO, FACEP

> Midlothian, TX

>

> Don't miss EMStock 2005 (http://www.EMStock.com)

>

> Re: Re: Sad Day in Ems

>

> In Austin, Austin EMS's revenues do NOT exceed expenses. My tax dollars

> help fund that system, meaning that each year that system runs " in the red. "

> They have to manage how far in the red they run, but I don't think any

> citizen here expects them to make a profit and return money to the

> city/county.

>

> Name me one public EMS system that runs " in the black " in a major

> metropolitan area.

>

> Mike

>

> On Mon, 17 Jan 2005 01:36:53 -0500, THEDUDMAN@...

> wrote:

> >

> > Show me any public EMS manager/director/chief who is not daily concerned

> and monitoring revenue and expenses to make sure that revenue exceeds

> expenses and makes decisions accordingly...and I will show you a manager who

> is very soon to be searching for a new job.

> >

> > Public EMS agencies have stockholders too...they are called tax payers.

> >

> > Dudley

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

" I have recieved instruction as to how to write better, more detailed run

reports in order to increase revenue.

I have been told that a long-term employee is a drain on a company because

they cost more than a new-hire, in order to increase profits. "

Were these statements made by a municipal EMS manager? Because EVERY EMS

manager should be doing #1 so that tax payer subsidies are as low as

possible...otherwise it is a misuse of public funds...

Statement #2 is seen in the paper everyday for FD and PD layoffs in cities all

over the nation....

What statements do the private providers make that are different?

Dudley

[Guest guest]

" I have recieved instruction as to how to write better, more detailed run

reports in order to increase revenue.

I have been told that a long-term employee is a drain on a company because

they cost more than a new-hire, in order to increase profits. "

Were these statements made by a municipal EMS manager? Because EVERY EMS

manager should be doing #1 so that tax payer subsidies are as low as

possible...otherwise it is a misuse of public funds...

Statement #2 is seen in the paper everyday for FD and PD layoffs in cities all

over the nation....

What statements do the private providers make that are different?

Dudley

[Guest guest]

When does SAFD/EMS or Austin EMS or any other municpal agency know when to add

peak units or to add additional 24 hour units??? Just when they wake up and

decide the public needs more service from their agency? Know...it is the exact

same principles that th edreaded UHU is based upon...just a different name.

Dudley

[Guest guest]

When does SAFD/EMS or Austin EMS or any other municpal agency know when to add

peak units or to add additional 24 hour units??? Just when they wake up and

decide the public needs more service from their agency? Know...it is the exact

same principles that th edreaded UHU is based upon...just a different name.

Dudley

[Guest guest]

When does SAFD/EMS or Austin EMS or any other municpal agency know when to add

peak units or to add additional 24 hour units??? Just when they wake up and

decide the public needs more service from their agency? Know...it is the exact

same principles that th edreaded UHU is based upon...just a different name.

Dudley

[Guest guest]

SUNSTAR in Pinellas County Florida

Dudley

[Guest guest]

SUNSTAR in Pinellas County Florida

Dudley

[Guest guest]

SUNSTAR in Pinellas County Florida

Dudley

[Guest guest]

Please let's get off this an move on

_____

From: rachfoote@...

Sent: Monday, January 17, 2005 1:39 PM

To:

Subject: Re: Re: Sad Day in Ems

In a message dated 1/17/2005 12:37:48 A.M. Central Standard Time,

THEDUDMAN@... writes:

Show me any public EMS manager/director/chief who is not daily concerned

and

monitoring revenue and expenses to make sure that revenue exceeds expenses

and makes decisions accordingly...and I will show you a manager who is very

soon to be searching for a new job.

Public EMS agencies have stockholders too...they are called tax payers.

Dudley

You are looking at one. I am not about to be replaced real soon either

unless I suddenly Keel over dead. Everyone thinks taxpayers are at the

heals of

anyone that doesn't make a profit. The taxpayers of my town are proud to

have the great service at a reasonable cost. They know the have a top

service

and want to keep it. I will go into further detail if you are willing to

legitimately listen and will email me off line.

Andy Foote, Manager

EMS City of Beaumont