Re: my latest doc visit

[Guest guest]

Darcy,

I guess that Chattanooga's just too far for you to drive to go to a pain

clinic, isn't it? I've got the BEST pain clinic here and it sounds like

exactly what you need :-(

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At 06:52 AM 10/17/01 -0400, you wrote:

>Gee, this guy is in Charlotte, NC, but maybe they're brothers?

>Darcy

[Guest guest]

Darcy,

I guess that Chattanooga's just too far for you to drive to go to a pain

clinic, isn't it? I've got the BEST pain clinic here and it sounds like

exactly what you need :-(

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At 06:52 AM 10/17/01 -0400, you wrote:

>Gee, this guy is in Charlotte, NC, but maybe they're brothers?

>Darcy

[Guest guest]

Darcy,

I agree with Shay. No doctor should treat any of us as one block short of a

full load. We are intelligent people. In fact, from some of the postings I

have seen on this list there seems to be a lot of doctors that are rude and I

don't think very ethical. My opinion only. The one that said the person

should get a boyfriend. How in the heck will that help.

There seems to be a large group of doctors out there that do not believe in

fibro. Why don't they send you to someone that does? I blame the HMO's for

about 90 percent of the problems we are having. Also the problems that we

are having with medication cost and whether they will cover a prescription or

not. I have to take a medication for to thin the blood or I will have some

more mini strokes or another kind of stroke that I don't want to think about.

I am charged once a month 96.00 for a months supply until January then they

will cover brand named drugs until I reach 1,200.00. Now how long do you

think that will last. One good thing. My doctor and my pharmacists with a

lot of help from my husband got the HMO to override my prescription for

mscontin and give me the generic. They did not want to pay for that but my

husband won't take no if it is important to my health. He will go t0 the top

person if he has to.

Take care,

Irene

> Oh Darcy, I agree with whomever said he is a complete idiot. Now mind you,

> I

> have seen my fair share of those as well. I would not go back to him

> again.

> You have too many other issues to deal with than having to second guess

> yourself after seeing a doctor. Any doctor can have that holier than thou

> attitude if he is not the one in pain all the time.

[Guest guest]

Darcy,

I agree with Shay. No doctor should treat any of us as one block short of a

full load. We are intelligent people. In fact, from some of the postings I

have seen on this list there seems to be a lot of doctors that are rude and I

don't think very ethical. My opinion only. The one that said the person

should get a boyfriend. How in the heck will that help.

There seems to be a large group of doctors out there that do not believe in

fibro. Why don't they send you to someone that does? I blame the HMO's for

about 90 percent of the problems we are having. Also the problems that we

are having with medication cost and whether they will cover a prescription or

not. I have to take a medication for to thin the blood or I will have some

more mini strokes or another kind of stroke that I don't want to think about.

I am charged once a month 96.00 for a months supply until January then they

will cover brand named drugs until I reach 1,200.00. Now how long do you

think that will last. One good thing. My doctor and my pharmacists with a

lot of help from my husband got the HMO to override my prescription for

mscontin and give me the generic. They did not want to pay for that but my

husband won't take no if it is important to my health. He will go t0 the top

person if he has to.

Take care,

Irene

> Oh Darcy, I agree with whomever said he is a complete idiot. Now mind you,

> I

> have seen my fair share of those as well. I would not go back to him

> again.

> You have too many other issues to deal with than having to second guess

> yourself after seeing a doctor. Any doctor can have that holier than thou

> attitude if he is not the one in pain all the time.

[Guest guest]

I am on another pain list and the owner has the attitude that if your doctor

is not helping you to fire him. Don't waste a lot of time that could have

you being helped by another doctor. He get rather irate if someone comes on

complaining about not getting help from their doctor.

I agree that we should treat them as we do others that work for us. If they

can't do things right, get rid of them and find another. Keep looking until

you find that one that will help.

Take care,

Irene

> You know what I think? I think -- and this is because I'm going through

> some doc difficulties right now myself -- I think we gotta start thinking

> of doctors just like we'd think of plumbers, or electricians, or any other

> service provider. In other words: If he's bad at what he's doing, don't

> see him again. If the plumber messes up your pipes, you wouldn't hire him

> for another job, would you? If your whole house shorts out because the

> electrician was terrible, he wouldn't be the one you'd call to fix the

> problem, right?

>

[Guest guest]

I am on another pain list and the owner has the attitude that if your doctor

is not helping you to fire him. Don't waste a lot of time that could have

you being helped by another doctor. He get rather irate if someone comes on

complaining about not getting help from their doctor.

I agree that we should treat them as we do others that work for us. If they

can't do things right, get rid of them and find another. Keep looking until

you find that one that will help.

Take care,

Irene

> You know what I think? I think -- and this is because I'm going through

> some doc difficulties right now myself -- I think we gotta start thinking

> of doctors just like we'd think of plumbers, or electricians, or any other

> service provider. In other words: If he's bad at what he's doing, don't

> see him again. If the plumber messes up your pipes, you wouldn't hire him

> for another job, would you? If your whole house shorts out because the

> electrician was terrible, he wouldn't be the one you'd call to fix the

> problem, right?

>

[Guest guest]

I am on another pain list and the owner has the attitude that if your doctor

is not helping you to fire him. Don't waste a lot of time that could have

you being helped by another doctor. He get rather irate if someone comes on

complaining about not getting help from their doctor.

I agree that we should treat them as we do others that work for us. If they

can't do things right, get rid of them and find another. Keep looking until

you find that one that will help.

Take care,

Irene

> You know what I think? I think -- and this is because I'm going through

> some doc difficulties right now myself -- I think we gotta start thinking

> of doctors just like we'd think of plumbers, or electricians, or any other

> service provider. In other words: If he's bad at what he's doing, don't

> see him again. If the plumber messes up your pipes, you wouldn't hire him

> for another job, would you? If your whole house shorts out because the

> electrician was terrible, he wouldn't be the one you'd call to fix the

> problem, right?

>

[Guest guest]

Darcy,

What might be good for someone else might not be good for you. In this

fibro, we all have the problems with pain but we don't always have the same

main problem that is hard to live with.

Take care,

Irene

> We should go by what's good for us,

> even if they are highly recommended and good for someone else.

>

[Guest guest]

You go girlie....I agree these days ya gotta yell and yell nasty's in order

to get anywhere..especially women...there are some places that believe that

we are still in the " old times " and women shouldn't be out in the world...

Allicia

[Guest guest]

You go girlie....I agree these days ya gotta yell and yell nasty's in order

to get anywhere..especially women...there are some places that believe that

we are still in the " old times " and women shouldn't be out in the world...

Allicia

[Guest guest]

You go girlie....I agree these days ya gotta yell and yell nasty's in order

to get anywhere..especially women...there are some places that believe that

we are still in the " old times " and women shouldn't be out in the world...

Allicia

[Guest guest]

Darcy,

Yoga is one of the best exercises to do for FMS...I just need to go

get a video...Haven't had the $$, but I will get it soon..I am feeling better

as well and want to baby step my way to things...say I don't have to slide

back into bed and lay there for three days without moving...

[Guest guest]

Darcy,

Yoga is one of the best exercises to do for FMS...I just need to go

get a video...Haven't had the $$, but I will get it soon..I am feeling better

as well and want to baby step my way to things...say I don't have to slide

back into bed and lay there for three days without moving...

[Guest guest]

Darcy,

Yoga is one of the best exercises to do for FMS...I just need to go

get a video...Haven't had the $$, but I will get it soon..I am feeling better

as well and want to baby step my way to things...say I don't have to slide

back into bed and lay there for three days without moving...

[Guest guest]

Gee, this guy is in Charlotte, NC, but maybe they're brothers?

Probably are and when they get mad and pout they get together sit on the

couch and eat a whole bag of candy bars...and then they feel guilty and have

to go pressure all their " cases " to do the work they don't " ...lmaoo soory me

being a smarty pants again..lol

Allicia

[Guest guest]

Gee, this guy is in Charlotte, NC, but maybe they're brothers?

Probably are and when they get mad and pout they get together sit on the

couch and eat a whole bag of candy bars...and then they feel guilty and have

to go pressure all their " cases " to do the work they don't " ...lmaoo soory me

being a smarty pants again..lol

Allicia

[Guest guest]

Gee, this guy is in Charlotte, NC, but maybe they're brothers?

Probably are and when they get mad and pout they get together sit on the

couch and eat a whole bag of candy bars...and then they feel guilty and have

to go pressure all their " cases " to do the work they don't " ...lmaoo soory me

being a smarty pants again..lol

Allicia

[Guest guest]

No all. My doctor is an exception. He has worked with me to get the right

medication. If I tried one and it did not help, we would try another. Found

mscontin and Vicodon.

Take care,

Irene

> ....It seems all rheumys are totally against narcotics

[Guest guest]

No all. My doctor is an exception. He has worked with me to get the right

medication. If I tried one and it did not help, we would try another. Found

mscontin and Vicodon.

Take care,

Irene

> ....It seems all rheumys are totally against narcotics

[Guest guest]

No all. My doctor is an exception. He has worked with me to get the right

medication. If I tried one and it did not help, we would try another. Found

mscontin and Vicodon.

Take care,

Irene

> ....It seems all rheumys are totally against narcotics

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 10/17/01 2:22:57 PM Eastern Daylight Time, patidu@...

writes:

> I am on another pain list and the owner has the attitude that if your doctor

> is not helping you to fire him. Don't waste a lot of time that could have

> you being helped by another doctor. He get rather irate if someone comes

> on

> complaining about not getting help from their doctor.

>

> I agree that we should treat them as we do others that work for us. If

> they

> can't do things right, get rid of them and find another. Keep looking

> until

> you find that one that will help.

I coudn't agree more. I think sometimes we tend to forget that we are paying

our doctors for the service they provide us. Think of it this way--if your

car needed to be fixed and the mechanic said that the problem was all in your

head, would you just accept that and keep driving the car? Of course not.

Doctors may have a lot of education but that doesn't necessarily mean that

they know everything and that they never make mistakes or misjudge others.

I'd be walking backwards out the door if my doctor started giving me the kind

of lecture others on this list have heard. I thank my lucky stars that I have

a truly wonderful doctor who actually listens to me and trusts me to be

truthful when discussing my illness. He's a caring and compassionate man who

not only accepts that FMS is a real disease, but also encourages me to

research alternative treatment options and to bring my notes with me when I

see him so we can go over them together. The most amazing part of my

situation is that I chose him more or less at random when I became ill. It

was literally a case of me saying " Just give me whichever doctor I can see

right away. "

Take heart, everyone! There really ARE good doctors out there. The trick, of

course, is to find them. One suggestion I would make is to look into whatever

FMS support groups that may exist in your area--those are the people who can

tell you who the good doctors are!

Cheers,

Diane

[Guest guest]

> . I've had a very mild

> case of tinnitus for years (on and off) from damage done to my hearing

> in the Navy, this was long before I even began to have any fibro

> symptoms. Nope, that couldn't be it, it was from a trigger point in

> front of my ears.

>

I am not sure if I am understanding this right. Did the doctor or you think

that fibro might come from the tinnitus? Also I don't understand the bit

about the trigger point in front of your ears. I would appreciate an answer

as I am confused. That is, of course, a condition that I find myself in a

lot these days.

Take care,

Irene

[Guest guest]

> . I've had a very mild

> case of tinnitus for years (on and off) from damage done to my hearing

> in the Navy, this was long before I even began to have any fibro

> symptoms. Nope, that couldn't be it, it was from a trigger point in

> front of my ears.

>

I am not sure if I am understanding this right. Did the doctor or you think

that fibro might come from the tinnitus? Also I don't understand the bit

about the trigger point in front of your ears. I would appreciate an answer

as I am confused. That is, of course, a condition that I find myself in a

lot these days.

Take care,

Irene

[Guest guest]

> . I've had a very mild

> case of tinnitus for years (on and off) from damage done to my hearing

> in the Navy, this was long before I even began to have any fibro

> symptoms. Nope, that couldn't be it, it was from a trigger point in

> front of my ears.

>

I am not sure if I am understanding this right. Did the doctor or you think

that fibro might come from the tinnitus? Also I don't understand the bit

about the trigger point in front of your ears. I would appreciate an answer

as I am confused. That is, of course, a condition that I find myself in a

lot these days.

Take care,

Irene

[Guest guest]

I was raised to be respectful too, but being walked all over by people that

take advantage of that, is a whole different ball game! I'll be nice to

them as long as they don't think they're gonna walk all over me and take

advantage of me. I'll only let it go so far before my fangs come out and

the horns pop up and I let 'em have it!!

Rhonda

Re: my latest doc visit

>

>

> We're not going to go back to him. I was raised to be ultra respectful

> of adults and authority. It's taken me years to break out of this, and

> doctors are probably one of the last remaining things I have to get past

> thinking I can't challenge them. I did at least start to stick up for

> myself by challenging him on his challenging me on my crying, so that's

> a start. As dh said this morning, if he really cared about me getting

> better via his program, he'd have made some kind of arrangements for

> payments. I can't believe that there isn't anything he can't recommend

> for me to do besides doing his program or nothing. His only other

> recommendations for me were shut off the tv in the bedroom (probably

> good advice), get a humidifier (seems to me it didn't work for me for

> some reason, but I'll try again), and join weight watchers immediately.

> He did tell dh that it " is probably a good idea if you loose some weight

> too " , but didn't tell him he needed to join weight watchers and dh is

> much more overweight than I am!! So I'm going back to what I feel is

> best for me.

> Darcy

>