Re: my latest doc visit

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janissa@... wrote:

>

> Darcy, this doc sounds even worse than my " you just need a boyfriend "

> ex-doc. Run away, run away! He's NOT the doc for you (and from the sound

> of it I seriously doubt he's the doc for anyone, for that matter).

<g> do you think I ought to recommend to him that he and your " you just

need a boyfriend " ought to set up practice together? They seem a

matched pair, don't they?

>

> You know what I think? I think -- and this is because I'm going through

> some doc difficulties right now myself -- I think we gotta start thinking

> of doctors just like we'd think of plumbers, or electricians, or any other

> service provider.

Good point, thanks. When we went to sell our house, we went with

someone that a neighbor had glowing recommendations about. She turned

out to be an utter disaster for us. We should go by what's good for us,

even if they are highly recommended and good for someone else.

Darcy

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Darcy,

I take a lot of Excedrine migraine as well. I have yet to find anything that

works better. I am looking for a more natural approach though. I cannot

believe that the DR thought one little Milky Way was so bad. I can tell you

that that one little piece of candy will not cause you problems. If you ate

the bag, well then you may have issues.

Liz

Scrap in a Snap Consultant #10811

siasliz@...

Proud to be an AMERICAN!!!!

[Guest guest]

Darcy,

I take a lot of Excedrine migraine as well. I have yet to find anything that

works better. I am looking for a more natural approach though. I cannot

believe that the DR thought one little Milky Way was so bad. I can tell you

that that one little piece of candy will not cause you problems. If you ate

the bag, well then you may have issues.

Liz

Scrap in a Snap Consultant #10811

siasliz@...

Proud to be an AMERICAN!!!!

[Guest guest]

I agree with everyone else - don't go near that quack again.

As far as exercise goes though, there likely are some that you can learn to do.

I

went to a very knowledgeable physiotherapist to get help. I was at my wits end.

I

could barely hobble. Well, he baby-stepped me into learning how to stretch my

muscles. Then he baby-stepped me into other useful exercises. It was a slow

process, but I followed his instructions and didn't over do it. My progress

became

apparent within the first few visits.

I thought I was gonna keel over and die when I did the first simple stretch. He

assured me I wouldn't :-) It's been four years since I started doing the PT and

baby-step by babystep I have made leaps and bounds. However, when I don't do my

exercises, my body seizes up quicker than I can say Rumplestiltskin. Then I

have

to start at the beginning again. Doing the stretches and exercises every day

gets

monotonous, but it beats the alternative.

Remember even doing a couple of simple shoulder shrugs or reaching your arm

above

your head is an exercise, so don't give up!!

Gimpy Lyndi

Darcy Stockstill wrote:

> ShayPugHugs@... wrote:

> >

> > Oh Darcy, I agree with whomever said he is a complete idiot. Now mind you,

I

> > have seen my fair share of those as well. I would not go back to him again.

> > You have too many other issues to deal with than having to second guess

> > yourself after seeing a doctor. Any doctor can have that holier than thou

> > attitude if he is not the one in pain all the time. Nice try, doc, but,

> > since you're the one paying him, you're the 'consumer', you don't have to

buy

> > in to his crap! Find another doctor sweetie.

>

> Thanks, it seems if you can't exercise, you end up with the " you really

> aren't trying and don't want to help yourself " routine. I can't quite

> get it through these guys heads, I use to walk all the time, I *like* to

> walk. If I'm not walking, it's because it's beyond me. And his " you're

> so fat, you need to immediately join Weight Watchers " blew my mind. I

> know I need to loose some weight, but I'm not obese. I'm on steroids

> which makes it hard to loose weight, not being able to exercise doesn't

> help either. I called myself " fat " at my gp appointment just 4 days

> prior and she said, " Darcy, you're not fat. I don't know where you got

> that idea from. "

>

> Darcy

>

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I agree with everyone else - don't go near that quack again.

As far as exercise goes though, there likely are some that you can learn to do.

I

went to a very knowledgeable physiotherapist to get help. I was at my wits end.

I

could barely hobble. Well, he baby-stepped me into learning how to stretch my

muscles. Then he baby-stepped me into other useful exercises. It was a slow

process, but I followed his instructions and didn't over do it. My progress

became

apparent within the first few visits.

I thought I was gonna keel over and die when I did the first simple stretch. He

assured me I wouldn't :-) It's been four years since I started doing the PT and

baby-step by babystep I have made leaps and bounds. However, when I don't do my

exercises, my body seizes up quicker than I can say Rumplestiltskin. Then I

have

to start at the beginning again. Doing the stretches and exercises every day

gets

monotonous, but it beats the alternative.

Remember even doing a couple of simple shoulder shrugs or reaching your arm

above

your head is an exercise, so don't give up!!

Gimpy Lyndi

Darcy Stockstill wrote:

> ShayPugHugs@... wrote:

> >

> > Oh Darcy, I agree with whomever said he is a complete idiot. Now mind you,

I

> > have seen my fair share of those as well. I would not go back to him again.

> > You have too many other issues to deal with than having to second guess

> > yourself after seeing a doctor. Any doctor can have that holier than thou

> > attitude if he is not the one in pain all the time. Nice try, doc, but,

> > since you're the one paying him, you're the 'consumer', you don't have to

buy

> > in to his crap! Find another doctor sweetie.

>

> Thanks, it seems if you can't exercise, you end up with the " you really

> aren't trying and don't want to help yourself " routine. I can't quite

> get it through these guys heads, I use to walk all the time, I *like* to

> walk. If I'm not walking, it's because it's beyond me. And his " you're

> so fat, you need to immediately join Weight Watchers " blew my mind. I

> know I need to loose some weight, but I'm not obese. I'm on steroids

> which makes it hard to loose weight, not being able to exercise doesn't

> help either. I called myself " fat " at my gp appointment just 4 days

> prior and she said, " Darcy, you're not fat. I don't know where you got

> that idea from. "

>

> Darcy

>

> HOME PAGE:http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Oaks/7127/fibromyalgia-cfs.html

>

> LIST OWNER: -owner

>

> SEND POST TO: fibromyalgia-cfs

>

>

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I agree with everyone else - don't go near that quack again.

As far as exercise goes though, there likely are some that you can learn to do.

I

went to a very knowledgeable physiotherapist to get help. I was at my wits end.

I

could barely hobble. Well, he baby-stepped me into learning how to stretch my

muscles. Then he baby-stepped me into other useful exercises. It was a slow

process, but I followed his instructions and didn't over do it. My progress

became

apparent within the first few visits.

I thought I was gonna keel over and die when I did the first simple stretch. He

assured me I wouldn't :-) It's been four years since I started doing the PT and

baby-step by babystep I have made leaps and bounds. However, when I don't do my

exercises, my body seizes up quicker than I can say Rumplestiltskin. Then I

have

to start at the beginning again. Doing the stretches and exercises every day

gets

monotonous, but it beats the alternative.

Remember even doing a couple of simple shoulder shrugs or reaching your arm

above

your head is an exercise, so don't give up!!

Gimpy Lyndi

Darcy Stockstill wrote:

> ShayPugHugs@... wrote:

> >

> > Oh Darcy, I agree with whomever said he is a complete idiot. Now mind you,

I

> > have seen my fair share of those as well. I would not go back to him again.

> > You have too many other issues to deal with than having to second guess

> > yourself after seeing a doctor. Any doctor can have that holier than thou

> > attitude if he is not the one in pain all the time. Nice try, doc, but,

> > since you're the one paying him, you're the 'consumer', you don't have to

buy

> > in to his crap! Find another doctor sweetie.

>

> Thanks, it seems if you can't exercise, you end up with the " you really

> aren't trying and don't want to help yourself " routine. I can't quite

> get it through these guys heads, I use to walk all the time, I *like* to

> walk. If I'm not walking, it's because it's beyond me. And his " you're

> so fat, you need to immediately join Weight Watchers " blew my mind. I

> know I need to loose some weight, but I'm not obese. I'm on steroids

> which makes it hard to loose weight, not being able to exercise doesn't

> help either. I called myself " fat " at my gp appointment just 4 days

> prior and she said, " Darcy, you're not fat. I don't know where you got

> that idea from. "

>

> Darcy

>

> HOME PAGE:http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Oaks/7127/fibromyalgia-cfs.html

>

> LIST OWNER: -owner

>

> SEND POST TO: fibromyalgia-cfs

>

>

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Darcy,

WOW...I think I would be finding me a different doctor effective

today...#%#$ that....a person doesn't deserve to be treated like that at

all...weather they are sick with just a cold or a chronic illness. That is

B.S.....your post made me want to hunt this doctor down and give him a piece

of my mind....It seems all rheumys are totally against narcotics...and I have

delt with two now that push exercise...the 1st rheumy I went to was totally

like the one you just described to the T....you don't happen to go to this

guy in Ft.Wayne, Indiana do you???...lol

I would deffinately be finding myself another doctor...no one deserves

to be treated like that. NO ONE...

[Guest guest]

Understand what you are saying completely I can not get over how much this

doc. sounds like my 1st rheumy..he gave me a whole list of literature to go

to the bookstore and buy...plus he gave me tons more literature to follow and

get rid of this and that and this...as far as foods go...I am like everyone

else..this letter has just put sooo much rage into my body...I can not

believe this guy I think I would be call'n the Better Business Bureau and

making a report...I don't know if there is a thing specially for docs, but I

know one thing I would be finding out soon.

[Guest guest]

Understand what you are saying completely I can not get over how much this

doc. sounds like my 1st rheumy..he gave me a whole list of literature to go

to the bookstore and buy...plus he gave me tons more literature to follow and

get rid of this and that and this...as far as foods go...I am like everyone

else..this letter has just put sooo much rage into my body...I can not

believe this guy I think I would be call'n the Better Business Bureau and

making a report...I don't know if there is a thing specially for docs, but I

know one thing I would be finding out soon.

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ShayPugHugs@... wrote:

>

> Next time a doc criticises you for eating a tiny piece of candy, ask him what

> all he eats in a day, when he tells you it's none of your business, tell him,

> EXACTLY!

>

Chocolate is food for the soul. Also good for anything else that ails

you!!! LOL

[Guest guest]

You have much better control than I do, I would have told him to @* & $ off

and stick his program where the sun don't shine!!

Amen G/F I would of too....probably a little bit more too..lol

[Guest guest]

You have much better control than I do, I would have told him to @* & $ off

and stick his program where the sun don't shine!!

Amen G/F I would of too....probably a little bit more too..lol

[Guest guest]

diane freeman wrote:

>

> Darcy, I would like to say one thing & this is only my

> opinion, but get another doctor. I couldn't help but

> feel rage the whole time I was reading your post.

> Some doctors can be such jerks. I mean for you to be

> so upset that you are crying & to just tell you to

> stop!!! Please, give me a break.

He made several references to " I *am* the doctor " so after dh and I

talked it over later on, we think he just likes to be the great doctor

who whizzes in, solves your problems and rides off again. Of course, if

you have problems with what he says or questions about things, then he

gets to brand you as having a poor attitude for not doing what the great

doctor says. I'm not going back.

Darcy

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diane freeman wrote:

>

> Darcy, I would like to say one thing & this is only my

> opinion, but get another doctor. I couldn't help but

> feel rage the whole time I was reading your post.

> Some doctors can be such jerks. I mean for you to be

> so upset that you are crying & to just tell you to

> stop!!! Please, give me a break.

He made several references to " I *am* the doctor " so after dh and I

talked it over later on, we think he just likes to be the great doctor

who whizzes in, solves your problems and rides off again. Of course, if

you have problems with what he says or questions about things, then he

gets to brand you as having a poor attitude for not doing what the great

doctor says. I'm not going back.

Darcy

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diane freeman wrote:

>

> Darcy, I would like to say one thing & this is only my

> opinion, but get another doctor. I couldn't help but

> feel rage the whole time I was reading your post.

> Some doctors can be such jerks. I mean for you to be

> so upset that you are crying & to just tell you to

> stop!!! Please, give me a break.

He made several references to " I *am* the doctor " so after dh and I

talked it over later on, we think he just likes to be the great doctor

who whizzes in, solves your problems and rides off again. Of course, if

you have problems with what he says or questions about things, then he

gets to brand you as having a poor attitude for not doing what the great

doctor says. I'm not going back.

Darcy

[Guest guest]

I am sure I would have said much more. I used to be shy and quiet, but

something happens to you when become a mother. Years ago when you had to

*go* to the unemployment office to pick up your check, my husband and I went

to get his. This woman was telling him that they didn't have his check.

Well, we had a baby that needed diapers (we lived with my mother in law and

that is a whole different email!!) Anyway, this woman was telling hubby

that they *did not* have his check. I was NOT going to take *no* for an

answer, so I leaned across that counter and said, " I *know* you've got the

check, you need to go back there and take another & *$#in' look because if

you don't things are gonna get real & $%#in' ugly! " My husband was quite

embarrassed, but hey, gotta do whatcha gotta do! Well, sure enough, she

came back with his check! Since then, if I know I'm being wronged, you bet

I'm gonna speak up! And loud!

Everybody has rights. If you feel that you are not being treated right or

you don't like the way you're treated, speak up.

Rhonda

Re: my latest doc visit

> You have much better control than I do, I would have told him to @* & $ off

> and stick his program where the sun don't shine!!

>

>

> Amen G/F I would of too....probably a little bit more too..lol

>

>

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SIAS Liz wrote:

> I take a lot of Excedrine migraine as well. I have yet to find anything that

> works better. I am looking for a more natural approach though. I cannot

> believe that the DR thought one little Milky Way was so bad. I can tell you

> that that one little piece of candy will not cause you problems. If you ate

> the bag, well then you may have issues.

Dane thinks he was just looking for something to catch me on. He

couldn't catch me on drinking tea or coffee, etc. so the only thing left

was my " massive " chocolate eating. I can't see how one bite sized Milky

Way would cause me massive problems when I have one once or twice a

week. I couldn't eat a bag if my life depended on it, it would make me

sick to eat that much chocolate! I just thought it strange how he

lectured me about that tiny piece of candy, but didn't even mention the

Excedrin! If you find something more natural to replace it, please let

me know.

Thanks

Darcy

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SIAS Liz wrote:

> I take a lot of Excedrine migraine as well. I have yet to find anything that

> works better. I am looking for a more natural approach though. I cannot

> believe that the DR thought one little Milky Way was so bad. I can tell you

> that that one little piece of candy will not cause you problems. If you ate

> the bag, well then you may have issues.

Dane thinks he was just looking for something to catch me on. He

couldn't catch me on drinking tea or coffee, etc. so the only thing left

was my " massive " chocolate eating. I can't see how one bite sized Milky

Way would cause me massive problems when I have one once or twice a

week. I couldn't eat a bag if my life depended on it, it would make me

sick to eat that much chocolate! I just thought it strange how he

lectured me about that tiny piece of candy, but didn't even mention the

Excedrin! If you find something more natural to replace it, please let

me know.

Thanks

Darcy

[Guest guest]

SIAS Liz wrote:

> I take a lot of Excedrine migraine as well. I have yet to find anything that

> works better. I am looking for a more natural approach though. I cannot

> believe that the DR thought one little Milky Way was so bad. I can tell you

> that that one little piece of candy will not cause you problems. If you ate

> the bag, well then you may have issues.

Dane thinks he was just looking for something to catch me on. He

couldn't catch me on drinking tea or coffee, etc. so the only thing left

was my " massive " chocolate eating. I can't see how one bite sized Milky

Way would cause me massive problems when I have one once or twice a

week. I couldn't eat a bag if my life depended on it, it would make me

sick to eat that much chocolate! I just thought it strange how he

lectured me about that tiny piece of candy, but didn't even mention the

Excedrin! If you find something more natural to replace it, please let

me know.

Thanks

Darcy

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DigitalAngel wrote:

You can find a better doctor that

> will give you *real* advice/treatment and not belittle you and make you cry.

> You have much better control than I do, I would have told him to @* & $ off

> and stick his program where the sun don't shine!!

We're not going to go back to him. I was raised to be ultra respectful

of adults and authority. It's taken me years to break out of this, and

doctors are probably one of the last remaining things I have to get past

thinking I can't challenge them. I did at least start to stick up for

myself by challenging him on his challenging me on my crying, so that's

a start. As dh said this morning, if he really cared about me getting

better via his program, he'd have made some kind of arrangements for

payments. I can't believe that there isn't anything he can't recommend

for me to do besides doing his program or nothing. His only other

recommendations for me were shut off the tv in the bedroom (probably

good advice), get a humidifier (seems to me it didn't work for me for

some reason, but I'll try again), and join weight watchers immediately.

He did tell dh that it " is probably a good idea if you loose some weight

too " , but didn't tell him he needed to join weight watchers and dh is

much more overweight than I am!! So I'm going back to what I feel is

best for me.

Darcy

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Lyndi wrote:

>

> I thought I was gonna keel over and die when I did the first simple stretch.

He

> assured me I wouldn't :-) It's been four years since I started doing the PT

and

> baby-step by babystep I have made leaps and bounds. However, when I don't do

my

> exercises, my body seizes up quicker than I can say Rumplestiltskin. Then I

have

> to start at the beginning again. Doing the stretches and exercises every day

gets

> monotonous, but it beats the alternative.

I had gotten a simple yoga dvd, and am going to start making some

serious efforts to do it every day. I'm very gradually working just a

hair farther each day so as to not over do it. I guess this will have

to do because no one will refer me to a pt therapist and I can't just go

on my own.

Darcy

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ShayPugHugs@... wrote:

>

> Next time a doc criticises you for eating a tiny piece of candy, ask him what

> all he eats in a day, when he tells you it's none of your business, tell him,

> EXACTLY!

Snicker! Thanks! He had a very arrogant manner to him, he even said

several times, " I'm the doctor, don't try to tell me " . I didn't

remember this, but Dane said he even put his feet up. I really was

stunned when most people do drink coffee/tea/sodas, that there was no

" credit " given because I didn't do those things, and he had to find

fault with a tiny piece of candy. I could have understood it, if I sat

down and ate a whole bag at a time, or I was eating a full size bar of

candy after every meal.

Darcy

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Allicia21@... wrote:

> WOW...I think I would be finding me a different doctor effective

> today...#%#$ that....a person doesn't deserve to be treated like that at

> all...weather they are sick with just a cold or a chronic illness. That is

> B.S.....your post made me want to hunt this doctor down and give him a piece

> of my mind

The more dh and I think about what he said and did, the more upset we

get about it all. I don't care if he does see 5 fibro cases a day, I'm

not a case, I'm an individual. He made absolutely no effort to find out

if my symptoms such as my snoring were from any other cause, he just

assumed it was because I needed to loose weight. I've had a very mild

case of tininitus for years (on and off) from damage done to my hearing

in the Navy, this was long before I even began to have any fibro

symptoms. Nope, that couldn't be it, it was from a trigger point in

front of my ears.

>.the 1st rheumy I went to was totally

> like the one you just described to the T....you don't happen to go to this

> guy in Ft.Wayne, Indiana do you???...lol

Gee, this guy is in Charlotte, NC, but maybe they're brothers?

Darcy

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Allicia21@... wrote:

>

> I know...this doctor needs a girlfriend...lol and he needs to eat a whole bag

> of candy bars....lmaoo just had to be a smarty pants for a min..lol

> hope ya'll at least smiled...

It did give me a chuckle, thanks!

Darcy

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Allicia21@... wrote:

>

> You have much better control than I do, I would have told him to @* & $ off

> and stick his program where the sun don't shine!!

>

> Amen G/F I would of too....probably a little bit more too..lol

I'm still working on learning to tell people off. Some days it seems I

need to learn a little faster than others.

Darcy