Re: my latest doc visit

[Guest guest]

Dear Darcy,

I'm so sorry that you found a jerk, just like I did. As you can tell, I'm with

everybody else: Forget this guy.

I have to go back see my Rheumy on Monday. It'll take all the strength I have

not to kick him where the sun don't shine. Unless of course, he had a

personality transplant since I saw him last lol.

I wish I knew a good Rheumy in Charlotte to suggest. The only type of doctor

that I know in Charlotte is an Endocrinologist and he's the greatest. But, wrong

kind of doctor, I'm sorry.

{{{Hugs}}}

Jacqui

Jacqui McCallister

Age: 39

Dx'd with FMS: 1995, but symptoms since 1984

Additional Illnesses: Papillary Thyroid Cancer spread to lungs, Intra-Occular

Migraines, TMJ, Allergies, Periodontitis, Mitral Valve Prolapse,

IBS, Arthritis, Possible MPS and CFS, Osteopenia, Bunions, Heel Spur,

Light/Smell/Sound Sensitivties, Edema, Orthostatic Hypotension, Insomnia,

Depression, Panic Attacks

Location: Ridgeview, West Virginia USA

Divorced, no kids. One furbaby, Jasmine, my Himalayan

Hobbies: Internet, Country, Rock and Gospel music, TV, Horror Movies, Days of

Our Lives, Trivia games

ICQ#: 126676406

Yahoo Messenger ID: jacqui_mccallister

" If you are lucky enough to find a way of life you love, you have to find the

courage to live it. " - Irving

[Guest guest]

Dear Darcy,

I'm so sorry that you found a jerk, just like I did. As you can tell, I'm with

everybody else: Forget this guy.

I have to go back see my Rheumy on Monday. It'll take all the strength I have

not to kick him where the sun don't shine. Unless of course, he had a

personality transplant since I saw him last lol.

I wish I knew a good Rheumy in Charlotte to suggest. The only type of doctor

that I know in Charlotte is an Endocrinologist and he's the greatest. But, wrong

kind of doctor, I'm sorry.

{{{Hugs}}}

Jacqui

Jacqui McCallister

Age: 39

Dx'd with FMS: 1995, but symptoms since 1984

Additional Illnesses: Papillary Thyroid Cancer spread to lungs, Intra-Occular

Migraines, TMJ, Allergies, Periodontitis, Mitral Valve Prolapse,

IBS, Arthritis, Possible MPS and CFS, Osteopenia, Bunions, Heel Spur,

Light/Smell/Sound Sensitivties, Edema, Orthostatic Hypotension, Insomnia,

Depression, Panic Attacks

Location: Ridgeview, West Virginia USA

Divorced, no kids. One furbaby, Jasmine, my Himalayan

Hobbies: Internet, Country, Rock and Gospel music, TV, Horror Movies, Days of

Our Lives, Trivia games

ICQ#: 126676406

Yahoo Messenger ID: jacqui_mccallister

" If you are lucky enough to find a way of life you love, you have to find the

courage to live it. " - Irving

[Guest guest]

Dear Darcy,

I'm so sorry that you found a jerk, just like I did. As you can tell, I'm with

everybody else: Forget this guy.

I have to go back see my Rheumy on Monday. It'll take all the strength I have

not to kick him where the sun don't shine. Unless of course, he had a

personality transplant since I saw him last lol.

I wish I knew a good Rheumy in Charlotte to suggest. The only type of doctor

that I know in Charlotte is an Endocrinologist and he's the greatest. But, wrong

kind of doctor, I'm sorry.

{{{Hugs}}}

Jacqui

Jacqui McCallister

Age: 39

Dx'd with FMS: 1995, but symptoms since 1984

Additional Illnesses: Papillary Thyroid Cancer spread to lungs, Intra-Occular

Migraines, TMJ, Allergies, Periodontitis, Mitral Valve Prolapse,

IBS, Arthritis, Possible MPS and CFS, Osteopenia, Bunions, Heel Spur,

Light/Smell/Sound Sensitivties, Edema, Orthostatic Hypotension, Insomnia,

Depression, Panic Attacks

Location: Ridgeview, West Virginia USA

Divorced, no kids. One furbaby, Jasmine, my Himalayan

Hobbies: Internet, Country, Rock and Gospel music, TV, Horror Movies, Days of

Our Lives, Trivia games

ICQ#: 126676406

Yahoo Messenger ID: jacqui_mccallister

" If you are lucky enough to find a way of life you love, you have to find the

courage to live it. " - Irving

[Guest guest]

Oh Darcy, I agree with whomever said he is a complete idiot. Now mind you, I

have seen my fair share of those as well. I would not go back to him again.

You have too many other issues to deal with than having to second guess

yourself after seeing a doctor. Any doctor can have that holier than thou

attitude if he is not the one in pain all the time. Nice try, doc, but,

since you're the one paying him, you're the 'consumer', you don't have to buy

in to his crap! Find another doctor sweetie. Shay

Join my new Diabetic Recipes group @

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Recipes4Diabetes

God Bless You All, Shay/Shalynn and the rescue gang;

Max, Samson I, Samson II, Zeuss, Tazz, Walter, Curly, Ralph, Sebastian, Tina

Marie, Bear, Bogie and Jake

[Guest guest]

Oh Darcy, I agree with whomever said he is a complete idiot. Now mind you, I

have seen my fair share of those as well. I would not go back to him again.

You have too many other issues to deal with than having to second guess

yourself after seeing a doctor. Any doctor can have that holier than thou

attitude if he is not the one in pain all the time. Nice try, doc, but,

since you're the one paying him, you're the 'consumer', you don't have to buy

in to his crap! Find another doctor sweetie. Shay

Join my new Diabetic Recipes group @

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Recipes4Diabetes

God Bless You All, Shay/Shalynn and the rescue gang;

Max, Samson I, Samson II, Zeuss, Tazz, Walter, Curly, Ralph, Sebastian, Tina

Marie, Bear, Bogie and Jake

[Guest guest]

Oh Darcy, I agree with whomever said he is a complete idiot. Now mind you, I

have seen my fair share of those as well. I would not go back to him again.

You have too many other issues to deal with than having to second guess

yourself after seeing a doctor. Any doctor can have that holier than thou

attitude if he is not the one in pain all the time. Nice try, doc, but,

since you're the one paying him, you're the 'consumer', you don't have to buy

in to his crap! Find another doctor sweetie. Shay

Join my new Diabetic Recipes group @

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Recipes4Diabetes

God Bless You All, Shay/Shalynn and the rescue gang;

Max, Samson I, Samson II, Zeuss, Tazz, Walter, Curly, Ralph, Sebastian, Tina

Marie, Bear, Bogie and Jake

[Guest guest]

> walked away from there feeling like he might be able to help me, but

> mostly that he didn't listen and everything was my fault

That guy sounds like an idiot looking for a village! I'd find someone

else! No one has the right to devalue and minimize you that way.

Seriously... there's no way that idiot can help you be any healthier!

--dc

[Guest guest]

> walked away from there feeling like he might be able to help me, but

> mostly that he didn't listen and everything was my fault

That guy sounds like an idiot looking for a village! I'd find someone

else! No one has the right to devalue and minimize you that way.

Seriously... there's no way that idiot can help you be any healthier!

--dc

[Guest guest]

At 10:37 AM 10/16/2001 -0700, dc bradshaw wrote:

> > walked away from there feeling like he might be able to help me, but

> mostly that he didn't listen and everything was my fault>

>

>

>That guy sounds like an idiot looking for a village! I'd find someone

>else! No one has the right to devalue and minimize you that way.

>Seriously... there's no way that idiot can help you be any healthier!

Darcy, this doc sounds even worse than my " you just need a boyfriend "

ex-doc. Run away, run away! He's NOT the doc for you (and from the sound

of it I seriously doubt he's the doc for anyone, for that matter).

You know what I think? I think -- and this is because I'm going through

some doc difficulties right now myself -- I think we gotta start thinking

of doctors just like we'd think of plumbers, or electricians, or any other

service provider. In other words: If he's bad at what he's doing, don't

see him again. If the plumber messes up your pipes, you wouldn't hire him

for another job, would you? If your whole house shorts out because the

electrician was terrible, he wouldn't be the one you'd call to fix the

problem, right?

I know this is a simplistic comparison, and easier said than done. But

it's the mindset I'm trying to cultivate right now. My " get a boyfriend "

doctor was substandard with regard to my care. So I got him on the phone

and fired him.

None of us has to put up with that. If it's unbearable, don't do it. Find

another doc, try an internist or a pain specialist if there are no other

rheumatologists in your area. Doctors and nurses like to ask you

questions. Ask them some questions. If I need help, will you support

me? If I call because I am in severe pain, will you respond appropriately,

or blow me off? Will you trust me to be a good judge of my own condition

and take me seriously?

No doctor can be a better judge of what's going on than you yourself. And

man, this is what I'm telling myself right now, over and over again. I'm

sick of being ignored or not taken seriously by doctors. The next one I

see (next month, hopefully) will meet the New, Improved (hopefully) and far

more Assertive Em. I have one question for him, which I will ask the

moment I go in.

CAN YOU HELP ME?

If he says yes, then we'll go from there. If he hesitates or hedges, then

I will thank him for his time and contact my PCP for yet another referral

to another doctor.

Sorry for the ranting, but I am SO mad that your doc treated you that way,

Darcy, and I'm just chewing up nails and spitting out tacks over here. ARGH!

*steaming*

Em

~~~~~~~~~~~~~

It is the tale, not he who tells it.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~

[Guest guest]

At 10:37 AM 10/16/2001 -0700, dc bradshaw wrote:

> > walked away from there feeling like he might be able to help me, but

> mostly that he didn't listen and everything was my fault>

>

>

>That guy sounds like an idiot looking for a village! I'd find someone

>else! No one has the right to devalue and minimize you that way.

>Seriously... there's no way that idiot can help you be any healthier!

Darcy, this doc sounds even worse than my " you just need a boyfriend "

ex-doc. Run away, run away! He's NOT the doc for you (and from the sound

of it I seriously doubt he's the doc for anyone, for that matter).

You know what I think? I think -- and this is because I'm going through

some doc difficulties right now myself -- I think we gotta start thinking

of doctors just like we'd think of plumbers, or electricians, or any other

service provider. In other words: If he's bad at what he's doing, don't

see him again. If the plumber messes up your pipes, you wouldn't hire him

for another job, would you? If your whole house shorts out because the

electrician was terrible, he wouldn't be the one you'd call to fix the

problem, right?

I know this is a simplistic comparison, and easier said than done. But

it's the mindset I'm trying to cultivate right now. My " get a boyfriend "

doctor was substandard with regard to my care. So I got him on the phone

and fired him.

None of us has to put up with that. If it's unbearable, don't do it. Find

another doc, try an internist or a pain specialist if there are no other

rheumatologists in your area. Doctors and nurses like to ask you

questions. Ask them some questions. If I need help, will you support

me? If I call because I am in severe pain, will you respond appropriately,

or blow me off? Will you trust me to be a good judge of my own condition

and take me seriously?

No doctor can be a better judge of what's going on than you yourself. And

man, this is what I'm telling myself right now, over and over again. I'm

sick of being ignored or not taken seriously by doctors. The next one I

see (next month, hopefully) will meet the New, Improved (hopefully) and far

more Assertive Em. I have one question for him, which I will ask the

moment I go in.

CAN YOU HELP ME?

If he says yes, then we'll go from there. If he hesitates or hedges, then

I will thank him for his time and contact my PCP for yet another referral

to another doctor.

Sorry for the ranting, but I am SO mad that your doc treated you that way,

Darcy, and I'm just chewing up nails and spitting out tacks over here. ARGH!

*steaming*

Em

~~~~~~~~~~~~~

It is the tale, not he who tells it.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~

[Guest guest]

At 10:37 AM 10/16/2001 -0700, dc bradshaw wrote:

> > walked away from there feeling like he might be able to help me, but

> mostly that he didn't listen and everything was my fault>

>

>

>That guy sounds like an idiot looking for a village! I'd find someone

>else! No one has the right to devalue and minimize you that way.

>Seriously... there's no way that idiot can help you be any healthier!

Darcy, this doc sounds even worse than my " you just need a boyfriend "

ex-doc. Run away, run away! He's NOT the doc for you (and from the sound

of it I seriously doubt he's the doc for anyone, for that matter).

You know what I think? I think -- and this is because I'm going through

some doc difficulties right now myself -- I think we gotta start thinking

of doctors just like we'd think of plumbers, or electricians, or any other

service provider. In other words: If he's bad at what he's doing, don't

see him again. If the plumber messes up your pipes, you wouldn't hire him

for another job, would you? If your whole house shorts out because the

electrician was terrible, he wouldn't be the one you'd call to fix the

problem, right?

I know this is a simplistic comparison, and easier said than done. But

it's the mindset I'm trying to cultivate right now. My " get a boyfriend "

doctor was substandard with regard to my care. So I got him on the phone

and fired him.

None of us has to put up with that. If it's unbearable, don't do it. Find

another doc, try an internist or a pain specialist if there are no other

rheumatologists in your area. Doctors and nurses like to ask you

questions. Ask them some questions. If I need help, will you support

me? If I call because I am in severe pain, will you respond appropriately,

or blow me off? Will you trust me to be a good judge of my own condition

and take me seriously?

No doctor can be a better judge of what's going on than you yourself. And

man, this is what I'm telling myself right now, over and over again. I'm

sick of being ignored or not taken seriously by doctors. The next one I

see (next month, hopefully) will meet the New, Improved (hopefully) and far

more Assertive Em. I have one question for him, which I will ask the

moment I go in.

CAN YOU HELP ME?

If he says yes, then we'll go from there. If he hesitates or hedges, then

I will thank him for his time and contact my PCP for yet another referral

to another doctor.

Sorry for the ranting, but I am SO mad that your doc treated you that way,

Darcy, and I'm just chewing up nails and spitting out tacks over here. ARGH!

*steaming*

Em

~~~~~~~~~~~~~

It is the tale, not he who tells it.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~

[Guest guest]

Janissa, A doctor actually told you that you needed a boyfriend, and that was

your problem? What a complete and utter jerk! What did you say in reply to

his remark? Shay

Join my new Diabetic Recipes group @

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Recipes4Diabetes

God Bless You All, Shay/Shalynn and the rescue gang;

Max, Samson I, Samson II, Zeuss, Tazz, Walter, Curly, Ralph, Sebastian, Tina

Marie, Bear, Bogie and Jake

[Guest guest]

Janissa, A doctor actually told you that you needed a boyfriend, and that was

your problem? What a complete and utter jerk! What did you say in reply to

his remark? Shay

Join my new Diabetic Recipes group @

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Recipes4Diabetes

God Bless You All, Shay/Shalynn and the rescue gang;

Max, Samson I, Samson II, Zeuss, Tazz, Walter, Curly, Ralph, Sebastian, Tina

Marie, Bear, Bogie and Jake

[Guest guest]

Janissa, A doctor actually told you that you needed a boyfriend, and that was

your problem? What a complete and utter jerk! What did you say in reply to

his remark? Shay

Join my new Diabetic Recipes group @

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Recipes4Diabetes

God Bless You All, Shay/Shalynn and the rescue gang;

Max, Samson I, Samson II, Zeuss, Tazz, Walter, Curly, Ralph, Sebastian, Tina

Marie, Bear, Bogie and Jake

[Guest guest]

Next time a doc criticises you for eating a tiny piece of candy, ask him what

all he eats in a day, when he tells you it's none of your business, tell him,

EXACTLY!

Join my new Diabetic Recipes group @

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Recipes4Diabetes

God Bless You All, Shay/Shalynn and the rescue gang;

Max, Samson I, Samson II, Zeuss, Tazz, Walter, Curly, Ralph, Sebastian, Tina

Marie, Bear, Bogie and Jake

[Guest guest]

Next time a doc criticises you for eating a tiny piece of candy, ask him what

all he eats in a day, when he tells you it's none of your business, tell him,

EXACTLY!

Join my new Diabetic Recipes group @

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Recipes4Diabetes

God Bless You All, Shay/Shalynn and the rescue gang;

Max, Samson I, Samson II, Zeuss, Tazz, Walter, Curly, Ralph, Sebastian, Tina

Marie, Bear, Bogie and Jake

[Guest guest]

Darcy, I would like to say one thing & this is only my

opinion, but get another doctor. I couldn't help but

feel rage the whole time I was reading your post.

Some doctors can be such jerks. I mean for you to be

so upset that you are crying & to just tell you to

stop!!! Please, give me a break. There are other

doctors out there that will help you & not try & force

you to use his program or have to change insurance.

It may take some time, but I think it would be worth

it. He doesn't seem like he understands anything. It

so horrible that we have to be in pain & so many

doctors don't understand. I really think you should

reconsider seeing him. Take care

Diane

--- Darcy Stockstill wrote:

> Well, I just came from the rheumatologist who

> specializes in fibro. I

> walked away from there feeling like he might be able

> to help me, but

> mostly that he didn't listen and everything was my

> fault. He asked if I

> snored (dh says I do sometimes) and then told me I

> need to " loose

> weight " and ought to go right out and join Weight

> Watchers on my way

> home!! For Pete's sake, I weight 20 lbs more than

> the maximum for my

> weight range and my gp even told me 4 days ago that

> I'm not fat

> (literally)!

>

> I cried several times during the interview because

> he wasn't really

> listening and I was worried if I could do all of the

> things he said I

> needed to do. He kept telling me I needed to stop

> crying. Now, I have

> major depression and have just started (less than a

> week) of a new

> antidepressant, but I'm suppose to " cheer up and be

> happy " ? He also

> dismissed my anxiety. I've done some cognitive

> behavioral stuff to help

> with it, but if it were that easy to get rid of, I'd

> have dumped it a

> long time ago!

>

> He did confirm I have fibro, but is a definite

> " exercise " person. I

> tried to explain about not being able to exercise

> and how I lost the

> ability to do stuff while still doing him, but this

> all went over his

> head. Nope, I had a " poor attitude " because I

> wasn't 100% gun ho about

> rushing into his program. What was even more

> upsetting was dh was

> hearing about me maybe being able to be helped, so

> when I asked him to

> help me out in explaining to the doctor what I was

> trying to say, he

> just paraphrased what the doctor was telling me. He

> didn't back me up

> with in explaining how tired I can get. When the

> doctor asked me if I

> thought the fatigue was something other than fibro,

> I said I didn't

> know. He then told me I needed to go see as many

> other doctors as it

> took me to find out it was from fibro. Great, it's

> taken me 8 months,

> and 3 specialists plus tons of tests to be told I

> have fibro, and every

> one can't figure out a reason for my fatigue. So

> now I'm suppose to

> search out more doctors for more tests when no one

> even has a clue about

> my fatigue and brushes it off??

>

> Oh, and because our insurance won't cover his

> program, we need to change

> insurance. Ok, dh is only offered one company, so

> that means we'd have

> to get insurance on our own. I don't think we can

> afford it. Anyone

> have any idea how much insurance totally on your own

> is (roughly, I know

> everything varies with coverage, etc.)? He is

> against giving narcotics

> which I don't care about since I don't want any.

> But he can't do

> anything for me unless I do his program. So he sent

> me away until

> January so I can " think over my attitude " and we

> can change programs.

> He reiterated that I need to start exercising and

> loose weight.

>

> I just was totally in tears and frustrated by the

> time I left there.

> Since he specializes in fibro, hasn't he seen *any*

> patients who can't

> exercise? Or do they all just go away once they've

> talked to him and

> are labeled has have a " poor attitude " ? Dane has

> been talking to me

> about asking the doctors for a handicap sticker for

> the days when I'm

> really bad. There'll be no handicap sticker from

> this guy!! I also

> told him my gp had only given my one month of

> ambien, but he gave me no

> prescription for any sleep help, he just talked

> about good sleep

> hygiene. He told me I needed to stop

> worrying/thinking so much when I

> went to sleep. Great, but how do I do that? I've

> been trying for

> months to do that! He also said I need to go to

> sleep and get up at the

> same time every day, good, but when I started to ask

> him " well, what if

> I'm suppose to get up at 6 am, but wake up at 4 am " .

> He interrupted me

> here and told me that was a " but " . I'm not suppose

> to have " buts " .

> That prohibits me getting better. So anything you

> have that is a

> question or doesn't fall in line with him, it's a

> " but " , your fault, and

> is going to keep you from getting better.

>

> Oh, and he sells " special " lotion to help with the

> fibro pain. The

> little bottles (1 oz.) each, are $2 each, while the

> big bottles (I'm not

> sure how big they are, 10 oz??, I was too teared up

> to notice) are $20

> each! I got the little bottles (one is " warmth " the

> other is " cool " ) to

> try.

> Very big sigh

> Darcy

>

__________________________________________________

[Guest guest]

Darcy, I would like to say one thing & this is only my

opinion, but get another doctor. I couldn't help but

feel rage the whole time I was reading your post.

Some doctors can be such jerks. I mean for you to be

so upset that you are crying & to just tell you to

stop!!! Please, give me a break. There are other

doctors out there that will help you & not try & force

you to use his program or have to change insurance.

It may take some time, but I think it would be worth

it. He doesn't seem like he understands anything. It

so horrible that we have to be in pain & so many

doctors don't understand. I really think you should

reconsider seeing him. Take care

Diane

--- Darcy Stockstill wrote:

> Well, I just came from the rheumatologist who

> specializes in fibro. I

> walked away from there feeling like he might be able

> to help me, but

> mostly that he didn't listen and everything was my

> fault. He asked if I

> snored (dh says I do sometimes) and then told me I

> need to " loose

> weight " and ought to go right out and join Weight

> Watchers on my way

> home!! For Pete's sake, I weight 20 lbs more than

> the maximum for my

> weight range and my gp even told me 4 days ago that

> I'm not fat

> (literally)!

>

> I cried several times during the interview because

> he wasn't really

> listening and I was worried if I could do all of the

> things he said I

> needed to do. He kept telling me I needed to stop

> crying. Now, I have

> major depression and have just started (less than a

> week) of a new

> antidepressant, but I'm suppose to " cheer up and be

> happy " ? He also

> dismissed my anxiety. I've done some cognitive

> behavioral stuff to help

> with it, but if it were that easy to get rid of, I'd

> have dumped it a

> long time ago!

>

> He did confirm I have fibro, but is a definite

> " exercise " person. I

> tried to explain about not being able to exercise

> and how I lost the

> ability to do stuff while still doing him, but this

> all went over his

> head. Nope, I had a " poor attitude " because I

> wasn't 100% gun ho about

> rushing into his program. What was even more

> upsetting was dh was

> hearing about me maybe being able to be helped, so

> when I asked him to

> help me out in explaining to the doctor what I was

> trying to say, he

> just paraphrased what the doctor was telling me. He

> didn't back me up

> with in explaining how tired I can get. When the

> doctor asked me if I

> thought the fatigue was something other than fibro,

> I said I didn't

> know. He then told me I needed to go see as many

> other doctors as it

> took me to find out it was from fibro. Great, it's

> taken me 8 months,

> and 3 specialists plus tons of tests to be told I

> have fibro, and every

> one can't figure out a reason for my fatigue. So

> now I'm suppose to

> search out more doctors for more tests when no one

> even has a clue about

> my fatigue and brushes it off??

>

> Oh, and because our insurance won't cover his

> program, we need to change

> insurance. Ok, dh is only offered one company, so

> that means we'd have

> to get insurance on our own. I don't think we can

> afford it. Anyone

> have any idea how much insurance totally on your own

> is (roughly, I know

> everything varies with coverage, etc.)? He is

> against giving narcotics

> which I don't care about since I don't want any.

> But he can't do

> anything for me unless I do his program. So he sent

> me away until

> January so I can " think over my attitude " and we

> can change programs.

> He reiterated that I need to start exercising and

> loose weight.

>

> I just was totally in tears and frustrated by the

> time I left there.

> Since he specializes in fibro, hasn't he seen *any*

> patients who can't

> exercise? Or do they all just go away once they've

> talked to him and

> are labeled has have a " poor attitude " ? Dane has

> been talking to me

> about asking the doctors for a handicap sticker for

> the days when I'm

> really bad. There'll be no handicap sticker from

> this guy!! I also

> told him my gp had only given my one month of

> ambien, but he gave me no

> prescription for any sleep help, he just talked

> about good sleep

> hygiene. He told me I needed to stop

> worrying/thinking so much when I

> went to sleep. Great, but how do I do that? I've

> been trying for

> months to do that! He also said I need to go to

> sleep and get up at the

> same time every day, good, but when I started to ask

> him " well, what if

> I'm suppose to get up at 6 am, but wake up at 4 am " .

> He interrupted me

> here and told me that was a " but " . I'm not suppose

> to have " buts " .

> That prohibits me getting better. So anything you

> have that is a

> question or doesn't fall in line with him, it's a

> " but " , your fault, and

> is going to keep you from getting better.

>

> Oh, and he sells " special " lotion to help with the

> fibro pain. The

> little bottles (1 oz.) each, are $2 each, while the

> big bottles (I'm not

> sure how big they are, 10 oz??, I was too teared up

> to notice) are $20

> each! I got the little bottles (one is " warmth " the

> other is " cool " ) to

> try.

> Very big sigh

> Darcy

>

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[Guest guest]

Darcy, I would like to say one thing & this is only my

opinion, but get another doctor. I couldn't help but

feel rage the whole time I was reading your post.

Some doctors can be such jerks. I mean for you to be

so upset that you are crying & to just tell you to

stop!!! Please, give me a break. There are other

doctors out there that will help you & not try & force

you to use his program or have to change insurance.

It may take some time, but I think it would be worth

it. He doesn't seem like he understands anything. It

so horrible that we have to be in pain & so many

doctors don't understand. I really think you should

reconsider seeing him. Take care

Diane

--- Darcy Stockstill wrote:

> Well, I just came from the rheumatologist who

> specializes in fibro. I

> walked away from there feeling like he might be able

> to help me, but

> mostly that he didn't listen and everything was my

> fault. He asked if I

> snored (dh says I do sometimes) and then told me I

> need to " loose

> weight " and ought to go right out and join Weight

> Watchers on my way

> home!! For Pete's sake, I weight 20 lbs more than

> the maximum for my

> weight range and my gp even told me 4 days ago that

> I'm not fat

> (literally)!

>

> I cried several times during the interview because

> he wasn't really

> listening and I was worried if I could do all of the

> things he said I

> needed to do. He kept telling me I needed to stop

> crying. Now, I have

> major depression and have just started (less than a

> week) of a new

> antidepressant, but I'm suppose to " cheer up and be

> happy " ? He also

> dismissed my anxiety. I've done some cognitive

> behavioral stuff to help

> with it, but if it were that easy to get rid of, I'd

> have dumped it a

> long time ago!

>

> He did confirm I have fibro, but is a definite

> " exercise " person. I

> tried to explain about not being able to exercise

> and how I lost the

> ability to do stuff while still doing him, but this

> all went over his

> head. Nope, I had a " poor attitude " because I

> wasn't 100% gun ho about

> rushing into his program. What was even more

> upsetting was dh was

> hearing about me maybe being able to be helped, so

> when I asked him to

> help me out in explaining to the doctor what I was

> trying to say, he

> just paraphrased what the doctor was telling me. He

> didn't back me up

> with in explaining how tired I can get. When the

> doctor asked me if I

> thought the fatigue was something other than fibro,

> I said I didn't

> know. He then told me I needed to go see as many

> other doctors as it

> took me to find out it was from fibro. Great, it's

> taken me 8 months,

> and 3 specialists plus tons of tests to be told I

> have fibro, and every

> one can't figure out a reason for my fatigue. So

> now I'm suppose to

> search out more doctors for more tests when no one

> even has a clue about

> my fatigue and brushes it off??

>

> Oh, and because our insurance won't cover his

> program, we need to change

> insurance. Ok, dh is only offered one company, so

> that means we'd have

> to get insurance on our own. I don't think we can

> afford it. Anyone

> have any idea how much insurance totally on your own

> is (roughly, I know

> everything varies with coverage, etc.)? He is

> against giving narcotics

> which I don't care about since I don't want any.

> But he can't do

> anything for me unless I do his program. So he sent

> me away until

> January so I can " think over my attitude " and we

> can change programs.

> He reiterated that I need to start exercising and

> loose weight.

>

> I just was totally in tears and frustrated by the

> time I left there.

> Since he specializes in fibro, hasn't he seen *any*

> patients who can't

> exercise? Or do they all just go away once they've

> talked to him and

> are labeled has have a " poor attitude " ? Dane has

> been talking to me

> about asking the doctors for a handicap sticker for

> the days when I'm

> really bad. There'll be no handicap sticker from

> this guy!! I also

> told him my gp had only given my one month of

> ambien, but he gave me no

> prescription for any sleep help, he just talked

> about good sleep

> hygiene. He told me I needed to stop

> worrying/thinking so much when I

> went to sleep. Great, but how do I do that? I've

> been trying for

> months to do that! He also said I need to go to

> sleep and get up at the

> same time every day, good, but when I started to ask

> him " well, what if

> I'm suppose to get up at 6 am, but wake up at 4 am " .

> He interrupted me

> here and told me that was a " but " . I'm not suppose

> to have " buts " .

> That prohibits me getting better. So anything you

> have that is a

> question or doesn't fall in line with him, it's a

> " but " , your fault, and

> is going to keep you from getting better.

>

> Oh, and he sells " special " lotion to help with the

> fibro pain. The

> little bottles (1 oz.) each, are $2 each, while the

> big bottles (I'm not

> sure how big they are, 10 oz??, I was too teared up

> to notice) are $20

> each! I got the little bottles (one is " warmth " the

> other is " cool " ) to

> try.

> Very big sigh

> Darcy

>

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[Guest guest]

dc bradshaw wrote:

> That guy sounds like an idiot looking for a village! I'd find someone

> else! No one has the right to devalue and minimize you that way.

> Seriously... there's no way that idiot can help you be any healthier!

Thanks. What also blew my mind was he went through the usual, " do you

drink coffee, tea, sodas, etc. " routine. I don't, and don't drink or

smoke. My *only* vice is every once in a while I have a tiny (one of

those squares of milky ways, one tiny bite) of chocolate. He

*immediately* told me to dump doing that, chocolate was full of

caffeine. Now, I take Excedrin to help with my migraines on a regular

basis. He didn't even mention cutting those out! I'm sure that tiny

piece of chocolate can in no way have 65 mg of caffeine! I'd give up

the Excedrin except the fibro pain is less than a migraine!

Darcy

[Guest guest]

dc bradshaw wrote:

> That guy sounds like an idiot looking for a village! I'd find someone

> else! No one has the right to devalue and minimize you that way.

> Seriously... there's no way that idiot can help you be any healthier!

Thanks. What also blew my mind was he went through the usual, " do you

drink coffee, tea, sodas, etc. " routine. I don't, and don't drink or

smoke. My *only* vice is every once in a while I have a tiny (one of

those squares of milky ways, one tiny bite) of chocolate. He

*immediately* told me to dump doing that, chocolate was full of

caffeine. Now, I take Excedrin to help with my migraines on a regular

basis. He didn't even mention cutting those out! I'm sure that tiny

piece of chocolate can in no way have 65 mg of caffeine! I'd give up

the Excedrin except the fibro pain is less than a migraine!

Darcy

[Guest guest]

dc bradshaw wrote:

> That guy sounds like an idiot looking for a village! I'd find someone

> else! No one has the right to devalue and minimize you that way.

> Seriously... there's no way that idiot can help you be any healthier!

Thanks. What also blew my mind was he went through the usual, " do you

drink coffee, tea, sodas, etc. " routine. I don't, and don't drink or

smoke. My *only* vice is every once in a while I have a tiny (one of

those squares of milky ways, one tiny bite) of chocolate. He

*immediately* told me to dump doing that, chocolate was full of

caffeine. Now, I take Excedrin to help with my migraines on a regular

basis. He didn't even mention cutting those out! I'm sure that tiny

piece of chocolate can in no way have 65 mg of caffeine! I'd give up

the Excedrin except the fibro pain is less than a migraine!

Darcy

[Guest guest]

ShayPugHugs@... wrote:

>

> Oh Darcy, I agree with whomever said he is a complete idiot. Now mind you, I

> have seen my fair share of those as well. I would not go back to him again.

> You have too many other issues to deal with than having to second guess

> yourself after seeing a doctor. Any doctor can have that holier than thou

> attitude if he is not the one in pain all the time. Nice try, doc, but,

> since you're the one paying him, you're the 'consumer', you don't have to buy

> in to his crap! Find another doctor sweetie.

Thanks, it seems if you can't exercise, you end up with the " you really

aren't trying and don't want to help yourself " routine. I can't quite

get it through these guys heads, I use to walk all the time, I *like* to

walk. If I'm not walking, it's because it's beyond me. And his " you're

so fat, you need to immediately join Weight Watchers " blew my mind. I

know I need to loose some weight, but I'm not obese. I'm on steroids

which makes it hard to loose weight, not being able to exercise doesn't

help either. I called myself " fat " at my gp appointment just 4 days

prior and she said, " Darcy, you're not fat. I don't know where you got

that idea from. "

Darcy

[Guest guest]

ShayPugHugs@... wrote:

>

> Oh Darcy, I agree with whomever said he is a complete idiot. Now mind you, I

> have seen my fair share of those as well. I would not go back to him again.

> You have too many other issues to deal with than having to second guess

> yourself after seeing a doctor. Any doctor can have that holier than thou

> attitude if he is not the one in pain all the time. Nice try, doc, but,

> since you're the one paying him, you're the 'consumer', you don't have to buy

> in to his crap! Find another doctor sweetie.

Thanks, it seems if you can't exercise, you end up with the " you really

aren't trying and don't want to help yourself " routine. I can't quite

get it through these guys heads, I use to walk all the time, I *like* to

walk. If I'm not walking, it's because it's beyond me. And his " you're

so fat, you need to immediately join Weight Watchers " blew my mind. I

know I need to loose some weight, but I'm not obese. I'm on steroids

which makes it hard to loose weight, not being able to exercise doesn't

help either. I called myself " fat " at my gp appointment just 4 days

prior and she said, " Darcy, you're not fat. I don't know where you got

that idea from. "

Darcy

[Guest guest]

ShayPugHugs@... wrote:

>

> Oh Darcy, I agree with whomever said he is a complete idiot. Now mind you, I

> have seen my fair share of those as well. I would not go back to him again.

> You have too many other issues to deal with than having to second guess

> yourself after seeing a doctor. Any doctor can have that holier than thou

> attitude if he is not the one in pain all the time. Nice try, doc, but,

> since you're the one paying him, you're the 'consumer', you don't have to buy

> in to his crap! Find another doctor sweetie.

Thanks, it seems if you can't exercise, you end up with the " you really

aren't trying and don't want to help yourself " routine. I can't quite

get it through these guys heads, I use to walk all the time, I *like* to

walk. If I'm not walking, it's because it's beyond me. And his " you're

so fat, you need to immediately join Weight Watchers " blew my mind. I

know I need to loose some weight, but I'm not obese. I'm on steroids

which makes it hard to loose weight, not being able to exercise doesn't

help either. I called myself " fat " at my gp appointment just 4 days

prior and she said, " Darcy, you're not fat. I don't know where you got

that idea from. "

Darcy