RE: Re: Broward Schools uses ABA

[Guest guest]

Yes they do get a lot of training and are well qualified in setting up the classrooms and teaching strategies etc. But they are not certified behavior specialists and sometime when behaviors start to get out of hand they may not have the experience or time to deal with your child's behaviors. Sometimes the autism coach has to sub for a cluster teacher that's out sick. So where does that leave your child?So with that being our only resouce, why should I let my kid's behaviors escalate and weeks go by without any real strategy being placed? Again, this is where a true behavior specialist whose only role is behaviors come in and help to take care of the problem.I'm not knocking the autism coaches. I personally like my school's coach, however from a behavior aspect I feel that the best approach comes from the real deal, the behavior specialist. Sent on the Sprint® Now Network from my BlackBerry®Date: Fri, 23 Apr 2010 16:19:19 -0400To: <sList >Subject: Re: Re: Broward Schools uses ABA Autism coaches generally know a lot about behavior and help teachers to implement strategies for both behavioral issues and academics. Often, implementing visuals, social stories, etc. is enough to assist a child in being successful in the classroom. The coaches also assist in setting up the classrooms in ways that help the students access their curriculum. They help with scheduling, collaborate with teachers and agencies like CARD. They attend a lot of trainings. From: meandmyraingirl Sent: Friday, April 23, 2010 12:31 PMTo: sList Subject: Re: Re: Broward Schools uses ABA They now expect the autism coach to be the 'behavioral specialist.'Sent on the Sprint® Now Network from my BlackBerry®From: Gabi Co <bijcom> Date: Fri, 23 Apr 2010 07:59:52 -0700 (PDT)To: <sList >Subject: Re: Re: Broward Schools uses ABA so it's even worse...The once a week schedule I heard from Everglades, where they do have a cluster with an Autism coach, but no behavior specialist.GabiFrom: Heifferon <gary00001msn (DOT) com>Subject: RE: Re: Broward Schools uses ABATo: sList@ yahoogroups. comDate: Thursday, April 22, 2010, 9:57 PM Or to restate the question, what Broward school did your child attend where he received ABA once a week? From: sList@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:sList @yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of Ana EsparzaSent: Thursday, April 22, 2010 3:42 PMTo: sList@ yahoogroups. comSubject: Re: Re: Broward Schools uses ABA , What school does your child attend? Ana From: monicagomez1954 <monicagomez1954@ yahoo.com>To: sList@ yahoogroups. comSent: Thu, April 22, 2010 3:02:31 PMSubject: Re: Broward Schools uses ABA The ABA will only come once a week in every school, they're not there everyday for your child and if your child is in crisis..they still will come one day a week and the school teacher's are not trained for the crisis, sorry but it's the truth..been there..done that...I had to swtich my child to a special school where they have ABA everyday.>> It is my understanding that Broward Schools now offers ABA in it's schools. If you think your child needs it, I suggest you ask and make sure you post your request in the Parent Input Section of your IEP.>

[Guest guest]

If I understand you correctly since there are so few or not any Behavior

Specialists in the schools, the Autism Coach is taking over the duties in the

case for Spectrum Children. But how do I know if the trainers are qualified to

train staff in " good teaching strategies when it comes to ABA? Now I'm

confused.

From:

sList [mailto:sList ] On Behalf

Of austintandt@...

Sent: Friday, April 23, 2010 4:14 PM

To: sList

Subject: Re: Re: Broward Schools uses ABA

Actually

they are both the same thing.

A

behavior analyst can both assess/implement a behavior plan and provide good

teaching strategies. In its simplest definition, ABA is " good

teaching strategies. "

Teaching

is teaching, whether it be to stop hitting for attention or whether it be match

the object cup to the picture of the cup. People often learn what they

are good at and want to specialize in but behavior and teaching go

together.

One

can earn a Master's degree in Applied Behavior Analysis. One who has a

Bachelor's can take a 3 course series/sequence, earn supervision hours and take

a state exam and become a Board Certified Assistant Behavior Analyst

(BCaBA). One who has a Master's can take a 5 course series/sequence, earn

supervision hours and take a state exam to become a Board Certified Behavior

Analyst (BCBA).

School

districts implement behavior strategies in their classrooms and conduct

discrete trials based on the individual needs of the child and whether they

warrant that type of precision teaching/direct instruction. The Districts

offer trainings and train the teachers in these methods. Many school

districts opt to not hire Master's level practitioners, BCBA's or BCaBA's for

these behavioral positions due to cost but if one has the certification, it

just looks better on their resume.

Hope

this helps.

From: Gabi Co

Sent: Friday, April 23,

2010 1:28 PM

To: sList

Subject: Re:

Re: Broward Schools uses ABA

Yes, there's some confusion...

From: Heifferon <gary00001msn (DOT) com>

Subject: RE: Re: Broward Schools uses ABA

To: sList@ yahoogroups. com

Date: Thursday, April 22, 2010, 9:57 PM

Or to restate the

question, what Broward school did your child attend where he received ABA

once a week?

From: sList@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:sList

@yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of Ana Esparza

Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2010 3:42 PM

To: sList@ yahoogroups. com

Subject: Re: Re: Broward Schools uses ABA

,

What school does your child attend?

Ana

From: monicagomez1954 <monicagomez1954@

yahoo.com>

To: sList@ yahoogroups. com

Sent: Thu, April 22, 2010 3:02:31 PM

Subject: Re: Broward Schools uses ABA

The ABA will only come once a week in every school, they're not there

everyday for your child and if your child is in crisis..they still will

come one day a week and the school teacher's are not trained for the

crisis, sorry but it's the truth..been there..done that...I had to swtich

my child to a special school where they have ABA everyday.

>

> It is my understanding that Broward Schools now offers ABA in it's

schools. If you think your child needs it, I suggest you ask and make sure

you post your request in the Parent Input Section of your IEP.

>

[Guest guest]

If I understand you correctly since there are so few or not any Behavior

Specialists in the schools, the Autism Coach is taking over the duties in the

case for Spectrum Children. But how do I know if the trainers are qualified to

train staff in " good teaching strategies when it comes to ABA? Now I'm

confused.

From:

sList [mailto:sList ] On Behalf

Of austintandt@...

Sent: Friday, April 23, 2010 4:14 PM

To: sList

Subject: Re: Re: Broward Schools uses ABA

Actually

they are both the same thing.

A

behavior analyst can both assess/implement a behavior plan and provide good

teaching strategies. In its simplest definition, ABA is " good

teaching strategies. "

Teaching

is teaching, whether it be to stop hitting for attention or whether it be match

the object cup to the picture of the cup. People often learn what they

are good at and want to specialize in but behavior and teaching go

together.

One

can earn a Master's degree in Applied Behavior Analysis. One who has a

Bachelor's can take a 3 course series/sequence, earn supervision hours and take

a state exam and become a Board Certified Assistant Behavior Analyst

(BCaBA). One who has a Master's can take a 5 course series/sequence, earn

supervision hours and take a state exam to become a Board Certified Behavior

Analyst (BCBA).

School

districts implement behavior strategies in their classrooms and conduct

discrete trials based on the individual needs of the child and whether they

warrant that type of precision teaching/direct instruction. The Districts

offer trainings and train the teachers in these methods. Many school

districts opt to not hire Master's level practitioners, BCBA's or BCaBA's for

these behavioral positions due to cost but if one has the certification, it

just looks better on their resume.

Hope

this helps.

From: Gabi Co

Sent: Friday, April 23,

2010 1:28 PM

To: sList

Subject: Re:

Re: Broward Schools uses ABA

Yes, there's some confusion...

From: Heifferon <gary00001msn (DOT) com>

Subject: RE: Re: Broward Schools uses ABA

To: sList@ yahoogroups. com

Date: Thursday, April 22, 2010, 9:57 PM

Or to restate the

question, what Broward school did your child attend where he received ABA

once a week?

From: sList@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:sList

@yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of Ana Esparza

Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2010 3:42 PM

To: sList@ yahoogroups. com

Subject: Re: Re: Broward Schools uses ABA

,

What school does your child attend?

Ana

From: monicagomez1954 <monicagomez1954@

yahoo.com>

To: sList@ yahoogroups. com

Sent: Thu, April 22, 2010 3:02:31 PM

Subject: Re: Broward Schools uses ABA

The ABA will only come once a week in every school, they're not there

everyday for your child and if your child is in crisis..they still will

come one day a week and the school teacher's are not trained for the

crisis, sorry but it's the truth..been there..done that...I had to swtich

my child to a special school where they have ABA everyday.

>

> It is my understanding that Broward Schools now offers ABA in it's

schools. If you think your child needs it, I suggest you ask and make sure

you post your request in the Parent Input Section of your IEP.

>

[Guest guest]

If I understand you correctly since there are so few or not any Behavior

Specialists in the schools, the Autism Coach is taking over the duties in the

case for Spectrum Children. But how do I know if the trainers are qualified to

train staff in " good teaching strategies when it comes to ABA? Now I'm

confused.

From:

sList [mailto:sList ] On Behalf

Of austintandt@...

Sent: Friday, April 23, 2010 4:14 PM

To: sList

Subject: Re: Re: Broward Schools uses ABA

Actually

they are both the same thing.

A

behavior analyst can both assess/implement a behavior plan and provide good

teaching strategies. In its simplest definition, ABA is " good

teaching strategies. "

Teaching

is teaching, whether it be to stop hitting for attention or whether it be match

the object cup to the picture of the cup. People often learn what they

are good at and want to specialize in but behavior and teaching go

together.

One

can earn a Master's degree in Applied Behavior Analysis. One who has a

Bachelor's can take a 3 course series/sequence, earn supervision hours and take

a state exam and become a Board Certified Assistant Behavior Analyst

(BCaBA). One who has a Master's can take a 5 course series/sequence, earn

supervision hours and take a state exam to become a Board Certified Behavior

Analyst (BCBA).

School

districts implement behavior strategies in their classrooms and conduct

discrete trials based on the individual needs of the child and whether they

warrant that type of precision teaching/direct instruction. The Districts

offer trainings and train the teachers in these methods. Many school

districts opt to not hire Master's level practitioners, BCBA's or BCaBA's for

these behavioral positions due to cost but if one has the certification, it

just looks better on their resume.

Hope

this helps.

From: Gabi Co

Sent: Friday, April 23,

2010 1:28 PM

To: sList

Subject: Re:

Re: Broward Schools uses ABA

Yes, there's some confusion...

From: Heifferon <gary00001msn (DOT) com>

Subject: RE: Re: Broward Schools uses ABA

To: sList@ yahoogroups. com

Date: Thursday, April 22, 2010, 9:57 PM

Or to restate the

question, what Broward school did your child attend where he received ABA

once a week?

From: sList@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:sList

@yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of Ana Esparza

Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2010 3:42 PM

To: sList@ yahoogroups. com

Subject: Re: Re: Broward Schools uses ABA

,

What school does your child attend?

Ana

From: monicagomez1954 <monicagomez1954@

yahoo.com>

To: sList@ yahoogroups. com

Sent: Thu, April 22, 2010 3:02:31 PM

Subject: Re: Broward Schools uses ABA

The ABA will only come once a week in every school, they're not there

everyday for your child and if your child is in crisis..they still will

come one day a week and the school teacher's are not trained for the

crisis, sorry but it's the truth..been there..done that...I had to swtich

my child to a special school where they have ABA everyday.

>

> It is my understanding that Broward Schools now offers ABA in it's

schools. If you think your child needs it, I suggest you ask and make sure

you post your request in the Parent Input Section of your IEP.

>

[Guest guest]

, I found this at the ACE packet:"ELEMENTARY CLUSTER: AUTISM COACHQUALIFICATIONS:Education: Florida certification in

Varying Exceptionalities, Speech/Language Pathology, MentallyHandicapped, Emotionally Handicapped or commensurate experience working in theclassroom with autistic children.Experience: Five years in exceptional student education or 3 years working with children with autisticspectrum disorders and their families preferred.Proven ability to provide leadership to teachers and staff.DIRECT ACCOUNTABILITY:PrincipalGOAL:Provide in-service and hands on coaching to special and regular education staff about the unique needsof autistic students and the strategies to meet those needs.1. Routinely participate in classrooms to direct and assist staff. This includes planning, roomorganization, schedules (students and staff), work systems, and work tasks that follows DivisionTEACCH international model for structured teaching.2. Attend training on strategies and monthly clinical inservice for coaches in order to provide trainingfor school staff (i.e., augmentative/assistive systems, community based Instruction (CBI), PositiveBehavior Support, B.A.S.S., curriculums such as Edmark, Reading Milestones, Touch Math,ComPASS Language Tool, and overview of autism for regular educators and faculty).3. Demonstrate the systems used for home notes, report cards, student portfolios, educationalmaterials, and data collection system.4. Demonstrate techniques that are effective in increasing adaptive and decreasing inappropriatebehavior, coordinate with zone behavior teacher or area behavior specialist for severe behavioralchallenges.5. Review with the appropriate technological personnel the obtaining and updating of computerequipment, both hardware and software. To some, this equipment is essential for an autisticstudent to communicate.6. Review appropriateness of orders with teachers and track outgoing and incoming supplies andequipment.7. Coordinate with family counselor, services for parent education, parent support, and siblingsupport groups.8. Assist ESE Specialist with plans for all students who articulate to middle school (and summerschool.).9. Assist school support facilitator with suggestions or modeling strategies for the fully includedstudents on their caseload (Asperger or High Functioning Autism-HFA).Note: This is a teacher support position not an administrative position. Evaluation ofthe staff, provision of classroom equipment following basic equipment guidelines,are administrative directions."GabiSent from my iPhone

No wonder it is such a mess!! It reminds me of the saying,

"A little bit of knowledge can be harmful." In considering the

qualifications of the position the outcome may be more like, "the blind

leading the blind". Would you hire a teacher who "generally

knows" about teaching? So, why hire an autism coach who may know something

about autism and/or behavior? Non of them are required to know anything about

autism or behavior. If I'm wrong about their qualifications, where am I wrong?

From:

sList [mailto:sList ] On Behalf

Of austintandtbellsouth (DOT) net

Sent: Friday, April 23, 2010 4:19 PM

To: sList

Subject: Re: Re: Broward Schools uses ABA

Autism

coaches generally know a lot about behavior and help teachers to implement

strategies for both behavioral issues and academics.

Often,

implementing visuals, social stories, etc. is enough to assist a child in being

successful in the classroom.

The

coaches also assist in setting up the classrooms in ways that help the students

access their curriculum. They help with scheduling, collaborate with

teachers and agencies like CARD. They attend a lot of trainings.

From: meandmyraingirl

Sent: Friday, April 23,

2010 12:31 PM

To: sList

Subject: Re:

Re: Broward Schools uses ABA

They now expect the autism coach to be the

'behavioral specialist.'

Sent on the Sprint® Now Network from my BlackBerry®

From: Gabi Co <bijcom>

Date: Fri, 23 Apr 2010 07:59:52 -0700 (PDT)

To: <sList >

Subject: Re: Re: Broward Schools uses

ABA

so it's even worse...

The once a week schedule I heard from Everglades, where they do have a

cluster with an Autism coach, but no behavior specialist.

Gabi

From: Heifferon <gary00001msn (DOT) com>

Subject: RE: Re: Broward Schools uses ABA

To: sList@ yahoogroups. com

Date: Thursday, April 22, 2010, 9:57 PM

Or to restate the question,

what Broward school did your child attend where he received ABA once a

week?

From: sList@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:sList

@yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of Ana Esparza

Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2010 3:42 PM

To: sList@ yahoogroups. com

Subject: Re: Re: Broward Schools uses ABA

,

What school does your child attend?

Ana

From: monicagomez1954 <monicagomez1954@ yahoo.com>

To: sList@ yahoogroups. com

Sent: Thu, April 22, 2010 3:02:31 PM

Subject: Re: Broward Schools uses ABA

The ABA will only come once a week in every school, they're not there

everyday for your child and if your child is in crisis..they still will

come one day a week and the school teacher's are not trained for the

crisis, sorry but it's the truth..been there..done that...I had to swtich

my child to a special school where they have ABA everyday.

>

> It is my understanding that Broward Schools now offers ABA in it's

schools. If you think your child needs it, I suggest you ask and make sure

you post your request in the Parent Input Section of your IEP.

>

[Guest guest]

, I found this at the ACE packet:"ELEMENTARY CLUSTER: AUTISM COACHQUALIFICATIONS:Education: Florida certification in

Varying Exceptionalities, Speech/Language Pathology, MentallyHandicapped, Emotionally Handicapped or commensurate experience working in theclassroom with autistic children.Experience: Five years in exceptional student education or 3 years working with children with autisticspectrum disorders and their families preferred.Proven ability to provide leadership to teachers and staff.DIRECT ACCOUNTABILITY:PrincipalGOAL:Provide in-service and hands on coaching to special and regular education staff about the unique needsof autistic students and the strategies to meet those needs.1. Routinely participate in classrooms to direct and assist staff. This includes planning, roomorganization, schedules (students and staff), work systems, and work tasks that follows DivisionTEACCH international model for structured teaching.2. Attend training on strategies and monthly clinical inservice for coaches in order to provide trainingfor school staff (i.e., augmentative/assistive systems, community based Instruction (CBI), PositiveBehavior Support, B.A.S.S., curriculums such as Edmark, Reading Milestones, Touch Math,ComPASS Language Tool, and overview of autism for regular educators and faculty).3. Demonstrate the systems used for home notes, report cards, student portfolios, educationalmaterials, and data collection system.4. Demonstrate techniques that are effective in increasing adaptive and decreasing inappropriatebehavior, coordinate with zone behavior teacher or area behavior specialist for severe behavioralchallenges.5. Review with the appropriate technological personnel the obtaining and updating of computerequipment, both hardware and software. To some, this equipment is essential for an autisticstudent to communicate.6. Review appropriateness of orders with teachers and track outgoing and incoming supplies andequipment.7. Coordinate with family counselor, services for parent education, parent support, and siblingsupport groups.8. Assist ESE Specialist with plans for all students who articulate to middle school (and summerschool.).9. Assist school support facilitator with suggestions or modeling strategies for the fully includedstudents on their caseload (Asperger or High Functioning Autism-HFA).Note: This is a teacher support position not an administrative position. Evaluation ofthe staff, provision of classroom equipment following basic equipment guidelines,are administrative directions."GabiSent from my iPhone

No wonder it is such a mess!! It reminds me of the saying,

"A little bit of knowledge can be harmful." In considering the

qualifications of the position the outcome may be more like, "the blind

leading the blind". Would you hire a teacher who "generally

knows" about teaching? So, why hire an autism coach who may know something

about autism and/or behavior? Non of them are required to know anything about

autism or behavior. If I'm wrong about their qualifications, where am I wrong?

From:

sList [mailto:sList ] On Behalf

Of austintandtbellsouth (DOT) net

Sent: Friday, April 23, 2010 4:19 PM

To: sList

Subject: Re: Re: Broward Schools uses ABA

Autism

coaches generally know a lot about behavior and help teachers to implement

strategies for both behavioral issues and academics.

Often,

implementing visuals, social stories, etc. is enough to assist a child in being

successful in the classroom.

The

coaches also assist in setting up the classrooms in ways that help the students

access their curriculum. They help with scheduling, collaborate with

teachers and agencies like CARD. They attend a lot of trainings.

From: meandmyraingirl

Sent: Friday, April 23,

2010 12:31 PM

To: sList

Subject: Re:

Re: Broward Schools uses ABA

They now expect the autism coach to be the

'behavioral specialist.'

Sent on the Sprint® Now Network from my BlackBerry®

From: Gabi Co <bijcom>

Date: Fri, 23 Apr 2010 07:59:52 -0700 (PDT)

To: <sList >

Subject: Re: Re: Broward Schools uses

ABA

so it's even worse...

The once a week schedule I heard from Everglades, where they do have a

cluster with an Autism coach, but no behavior specialist.

Gabi

From: Heifferon <gary00001msn (DOT) com>

Subject: RE: Re: Broward Schools uses ABA

To: sList@ yahoogroups. com

Date: Thursday, April 22, 2010, 9:57 PM

Or to restate the question,

what Broward school did your child attend where he received ABA once a

week?

From: sList@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:sList

@yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of Ana Esparza

Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2010 3:42 PM

To: sList@ yahoogroups. com

Subject: Re: Re: Broward Schools uses ABA

,

What school does your child attend?

Ana

From: monicagomez1954 <monicagomez1954@ yahoo.com>

To: sList@ yahoogroups. com

Sent: Thu, April 22, 2010 3:02:31 PM

Subject: Re: Broward Schools uses ABA

The ABA will only come once a week in every school, they're not there

everyday for your child and if your child is in crisis..they still will

come one day a week and the school teacher's are not trained for the

crisis, sorry but it's the truth..been there..done that...I had to swtich

my child to a special school where they have ABA everyday.

>

> It is my understanding that Broward Schools now offers ABA in it's

schools. If you think your child needs it, I suggest you ask and make sure

you post your request in the Parent Input Section of your IEP.

>

[Guest guest]

, I found this at the ACE packet:"ELEMENTARY CLUSTER: AUTISM COACHQUALIFICATIONS:Education: Florida certification in

Varying Exceptionalities, Speech/Language Pathology, MentallyHandicapped, Emotionally Handicapped or commensurate experience working in theclassroom with autistic children.Experience: Five years in exceptional student education or 3 years working with children with autisticspectrum disorders and their families preferred.Proven ability to provide leadership to teachers and staff.DIRECT ACCOUNTABILITY:PrincipalGOAL:Provide in-service and hands on coaching to special and regular education staff about the unique needsof autistic students and the strategies to meet those needs.1. Routinely participate in classrooms to direct and assist staff. This includes planning, roomorganization, schedules (students and staff), work systems, and work tasks that follows DivisionTEACCH international model for structured teaching.2. Attend training on strategies and monthly clinical inservice for coaches in order to provide trainingfor school staff (i.e., augmentative/assistive systems, community based Instruction (CBI), PositiveBehavior Support, B.A.S.S., curriculums such as Edmark, Reading Milestones, Touch Math,ComPASS Language Tool, and overview of autism for regular educators and faculty).3. Demonstrate the systems used for home notes, report cards, student portfolios, educationalmaterials, and data collection system.4. Demonstrate techniques that are effective in increasing adaptive and decreasing inappropriatebehavior, coordinate with zone behavior teacher or area behavior specialist for severe behavioralchallenges.5. Review with the appropriate technological personnel the obtaining and updating of computerequipment, both hardware and software. To some, this equipment is essential for an autisticstudent to communicate.6. Review appropriateness of orders with teachers and track outgoing and incoming supplies andequipment.7. Coordinate with family counselor, services for parent education, parent support, and siblingsupport groups.8. Assist ESE Specialist with plans for all students who articulate to middle school (and summerschool.).9. Assist school support facilitator with suggestions or modeling strategies for the fully includedstudents on their caseload (Asperger or High Functioning Autism-HFA).Note: This is a teacher support position not an administrative position. Evaluation ofthe staff, provision of classroom equipment following basic equipment guidelines,are administrative directions."GabiSent from my iPhone

No wonder it is such a mess!! It reminds me of the saying,

"A little bit of knowledge can be harmful." In considering the

qualifications of the position the outcome may be more like, "the blind

leading the blind". Would you hire a teacher who "generally

knows" about teaching? So, why hire an autism coach who may know something

about autism and/or behavior? Non of them are required to know anything about

autism or behavior. If I'm wrong about their qualifications, where am I wrong?

From:

sList [mailto:sList ] On Behalf

Of austintandtbellsouth (DOT) net

Sent: Friday, April 23, 2010 4:19 PM

To: sList

Subject: Re: Re: Broward Schools uses ABA

Autism

coaches generally know a lot about behavior and help teachers to implement

strategies for both behavioral issues and academics.

Often,

implementing visuals, social stories, etc. is enough to assist a child in being

successful in the classroom.

The

coaches also assist in setting up the classrooms in ways that help the students

access their curriculum. They help with scheduling, collaborate with

teachers and agencies like CARD. They attend a lot of trainings.

From: meandmyraingirl

Sent: Friday, April 23,

2010 12:31 PM

To: sList

Subject: Re:

Re: Broward Schools uses ABA

They now expect the autism coach to be the

'behavioral specialist.'

Sent on the Sprint® Now Network from my BlackBerry®

From: Gabi Co <bijcom>

Date: Fri, 23 Apr 2010 07:59:52 -0700 (PDT)

To: <sList >

Subject: Re: Re: Broward Schools uses

ABA

so it's even worse...

The once a week schedule I heard from Everglades, where they do have a

cluster with an Autism coach, but no behavior specialist.

Gabi

From: Heifferon <gary00001msn (DOT) com>

Subject: RE: Re: Broward Schools uses ABA

To: sList@ yahoogroups. com

Date: Thursday, April 22, 2010, 9:57 PM

Or to restate the question,

what Broward school did your child attend where he received ABA once a

week?

From: sList@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:sList

@yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of Ana Esparza

Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2010 3:42 PM

To: sList@ yahoogroups. com

Subject: Re: Re: Broward Schools uses ABA

,

What school does your child attend?

Ana

From: monicagomez1954 <monicagomez1954@ yahoo.com>

To: sList@ yahoogroups. com

Sent: Thu, April 22, 2010 3:02:31 PM

Subject: Re: Broward Schools uses ABA

The ABA will only come once a week in every school, they're not there

everyday for your child and if your child is in crisis..they still will

come one day a week and the school teacher's are not trained for the

crisis, sorry but it's the truth..been there..done that...I had to swtich

my child to a special school where they have ABA everyday.

>

> It is my understanding that Broward Schools now offers ABA in it's

schools. If you think your child needs it, I suggest you ask and make sure

you post your request in the Parent Input Section of your IEP.

>

[Guest guest]

,The general job description for an autism coach states they must have at least 2 years successful years of teaching children with autism. One of the many roles that's not stated is that they are the curriculum person for the cluster classes. That means they must be versed in not only the TEACCH System but also in general curriculum and discrete trials at some schools. Coaches also train, model and support teachers. They write IEPs, substitute in cluster classes, attend required trainings and many, many, other duties as assigned. I think it takes more than "the ability to breathe" or even a minimal knowledge of autism to do this job and be a source of support to teachers, students and families. Sent on the Sprint® Now Network from my BlackBerry®Date: Sat, 24 Apr 2010 09:15:13 -0400To: <sList >Subject: RE: Re: Broward Schools uses ABA No wonder it is such a mess!! It reminds me of the saying, " A little bit of knowledge can be harmful. "  In considering thequalifications of the position the outcome may be more like, " the blindleading the blind " .  Would you hire a teacher who " generallyknows " about teaching? So, why hire an autism coach who may know somethingabout autism and/or behavior? Non of them are required to know anything aboutautism or behavior. If I'm wrong about their qualifications, where am I wrong? From:sList [mailto:sList ] On BehalfOf austintandtbellsouth (DOT) netSent: Friday, April 23, 2010 4:19 PMTo: sList Subject: Re: Re: Broward Schools uses ABA Autismcoaches generally know a lot about behavior and help teachers to implementstrategies for both behavioral issues and academics. Often,implementing visuals, social stories, etc. is enough to assist a child in beingsuccessful in the classroom. Thecoaches also assist in setting up the classrooms in ways that help the studentsaccess their curriculum. They help with scheduling, collaborate withteachers and agencies like CARD. They attend a lot of trainings. From: meandmyraingirlSent: Friday, April 23,2010 12:31 PMTo: sList Subject: Re: Re: Broward Schools uses ABA They now expect the autism coach to be the'behavioral specialist.'Sent on the Sprint® Now Network from my BlackBerry®From: Gabi Co <bijcom>Date: Fri, 23 Apr 2010 07:59:52 -0700 (PDT)To: <sList >Subject: Re: Re: Broward Schools usesABA so it's even worse...The once a week schedule I heard from Everglades, where they do have acluster with an Autism coach, but no behavior specialist.GabiFrom: Heifferon <gary00001msn (DOT) com>Subject: RE: Re: Broward Schools uses ABATo: sList@ yahoogroups. comDate: Thursday, April 22, 2010, 9:57 PM Or to restate the question,what Broward school did your child attend where he received ABA once aweek? From: sList@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:sListyahoogroups (DOT) com] On Behalf Of Ana EsparzaSent: Thursday, April 22, 2010 3:42 PMTo: sList@ yahoogroups. comSubject: Re: Re: Broward Schools uses ABA , What school does your child attend? Ana From: monicagomez1954 <monicagomez1954@ yahoo.com>To: sList@ yahoogroups. comSent: Thu, April 22, 2010 3:02:31 PMSubject: Re: Broward Schools uses ABA The ABA will only come once a week in every school, they're not thereeveryday for your child and if your child is in crisis..they still willcome one day a week and the school teacher's are not trained for thecrisis, sorry but it's the truth..been there..done that...I had to swtichmy child to a special school where they have ABA everyday.>> It is my understanding that Broward Schools now offers ABA in it'sschools. If you think your child needs it, I suggest you ask and make sureyou post your request in the Parent Input Section of your IEP.>

[Guest guest]

,The general job description for an autism coach states they must have at least 2 years successful years of teaching children with autism. One of the many roles that's not stated is that they are the curriculum person for the cluster classes. That means they must be versed in not only the TEACCH System but also in general curriculum and discrete trials at some schools. Coaches also train, model and support teachers. They write IEPs, substitute in cluster classes, attend required trainings and many, many, other duties as assigned. I think it takes more than "the ability to breathe" or even a minimal knowledge of autism to do this job and be a source of support to teachers, students and families. Sent on the Sprint® Now Network from my BlackBerry®Date: Sat, 24 Apr 2010 09:15:13 -0400To: <sList >Subject: RE: Re: Broward Schools uses ABA No wonder it is such a mess!! It reminds me of the saying, " A little bit of knowledge can be harmful. "  In considering thequalifications of the position the outcome may be more like, " the blindleading the blind " .  Would you hire a teacher who " generallyknows " about teaching? So, why hire an autism coach who may know somethingabout autism and/or behavior? Non of them are required to know anything aboutautism or behavior. If I'm wrong about their qualifications, where am I wrong? From:sList [mailto:sList ] On BehalfOf austintandtbellsouth (DOT) netSent: Friday, April 23, 2010 4:19 PMTo: sList Subject: Re: Re: Broward Schools uses ABA Autismcoaches generally know a lot about behavior and help teachers to implementstrategies for both behavioral issues and academics. Often,implementing visuals, social stories, etc. is enough to assist a child in beingsuccessful in the classroom. Thecoaches also assist in setting up the classrooms in ways that help the studentsaccess their curriculum. They help with scheduling, collaborate withteachers and agencies like CARD. They attend a lot of trainings. From: meandmyraingirlSent: Friday, April 23,2010 12:31 PMTo: sList Subject: Re: Re: Broward Schools uses ABA They now expect the autism coach to be the'behavioral specialist.'Sent on the Sprint® Now Network from my BlackBerry®From: Gabi Co <bijcom>Date: Fri, 23 Apr 2010 07:59:52 -0700 (PDT)To: <sList >Subject: Re: Re: Broward Schools usesABA so it's even worse...The once a week schedule I heard from Everglades, where they do have acluster with an Autism coach, but no behavior specialist.GabiFrom: Heifferon <gary00001msn (DOT) com>Subject: RE: Re: Broward Schools uses ABATo: sList@ yahoogroups. comDate: Thursday, April 22, 2010, 9:57 PM Or to restate the question,what Broward school did your child attend where he received ABA once aweek? From: sList@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:sListyahoogroups (DOT) com] On Behalf Of Ana EsparzaSent: Thursday, April 22, 2010 3:42 PMTo: sList@ yahoogroups. comSubject: Re: Re: Broward Schools uses ABA , What school does your child attend? Ana From: monicagomez1954 <monicagomez1954@ yahoo.com>To: sList@ yahoogroups. comSent: Thu, April 22, 2010 3:02:31 PMSubject: Re: Broward Schools uses ABA The ABA will only come once a week in every school, they're not thereeveryday for your child and if your child is in crisis..they still willcome one day a week and the school teacher's are not trained for thecrisis, sorry but it's the truth..been there..done that...I had to swtichmy child to a special school where they have ABA everyday.>> It is my understanding that Broward Schools now offers ABA in it'sschools. If you think your child needs it, I suggest you ask and make sureyou post your request in the Parent Input Section of your IEP.>

[Guest guest]

,The general job description for an autism coach states they must have at least 2 years successful years of teaching children with autism. One of the many roles that's not stated is that they are the curriculum person for the cluster classes. That means they must be versed in not only the TEACCH System but also in general curriculum and discrete trials at some schools. Coaches also train, model and support teachers. They write IEPs, substitute in cluster classes, attend required trainings and many, many, other duties as assigned. I think it takes more than "the ability to breathe" or even a minimal knowledge of autism to do this job and be a source of support to teachers, students and families. Sent on the Sprint® Now Network from my BlackBerry®Date: Sat, 24 Apr 2010 09:15:13 -0400To: <sList >Subject: RE: Re: Broward Schools uses ABA No wonder it is such a mess!! It reminds me of the saying, " A little bit of knowledge can be harmful. "  In considering thequalifications of the position the outcome may be more like, " the blindleading the blind " .  Would you hire a teacher who " generallyknows " about teaching? So, why hire an autism coach who may know somethingabout autism and/or behavior? Non of them are required to know anything aboutautism or behavior. If I'm wrong about their qualifications, where am I wrong? From:sList [mailto:sList ] On BehalfOf austintandtbellsouth (DOT) netSent: Friday, April 23, 2010 4:19 PMTo: sList Subject: Re: Re: Broward Schools uses ABA Autismcoaches generally know a lot about behavior and help teachers to implementstrategies for both behavioral issues and academics. Often,implementing visuals, social stories, etc. is enough to assist a child in beingsuccessful in the classroom. Thecoaches also assist in setting up the classrooms in ways that help the studentsaccess their curriculum. They help with scheduling, collaborate withteachers and agencies like CARD. They attend a lot of trainings. From: meandmyraingirlSent: Friday, April 23,2010 12:31 PMTo: sList Subject: Re: Re: Broward Schools uses ABA They now expect the autism coach to be the'behavioral specialist.'Sent on the Sprint® Now Network from my BlackBerry®From: Gabi Co <bijcom>Date: Fri, 23 Apr 2010 07:59:52 -0700 (PDT)To: <sList >Subject: Re: Re: Broward Schools usesABA so it's even worse...The once a week schedule I heard from Everglades, where they do have acluster with an Autism coach, but no behavior specialist.GabiFrom: Heifferon <gary00001msn (DOT) com>Subject: RE: Re: Broward Schools uses ABATo: sList@ yahoogroups. comDate: Thursday, April 22, 2010, 9:57 PM Or to restate the question,what Broward school did your child attend where he received ABA once aweek? From: sList@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:sListyahoogroups (DOT) com] On Behalf Of Ana EsparzaSent: Thursday, April 22, 2010 3:42 PMTo: sList@ yahoogroups. comSubject: Re: Re: Broward Schools uses ABA , What school does your child attend? Ana From: monicagomez1954 <monicagomez1954@ yahoo.com>To: sList@ yahoogroups. comSent: Thu, April 22, 2010 3:02:31 PMSubject: Re: Broward Schools uses ABA The ABA will only come once a week in every school, they're not thereeveryday for your child and if your child is in crisis..they still willcome one day a week and the school teacher's are not trained for thecrisis, sorry but it's the truth..been there..done that...I had to swtichmy child to a special school where they have ABA everyday.>> It is my understanding that Broward Schools now offers ABA in it'sschools. If you think your child needs it, I suggest you ask and make sureyou post your request in the Parent Input Section of your IEP.>

[Guest guest]

There is a lot more to ABA than distinct trials (DT)! Many

people confuse ABA with DT but DT is only one tool in the ABA tool box…

Shirly

Shirly Gilad BCBA,RN, FNP, MS

Behavioral Therapy and then some.

Work:

Fax:

shirly@...

www.shirlygilad.com

From:

sList [mailto:sList ] On Behalf

Of meandmyraingirl@...

Sent: Saturday, April 24, 2010 9:35 AM

To: sList

Subject: Re: Re: Broward Schools uses ABA

Well, not really the same thing.

ABA is a type of behavior therapy. A behavior specialist has the credentials

has listed below but the plan that they may come up with may not necessarily be

a 'ABA' discrete trial type of approach.

My daughter has worked with a behavior specialist in the past to help her

overcome the bad behaviors that were interfering with her learning and the plan

that worked well with her was not a 'discrete trial' approach.

So there's a lot more to the role of a behavior specialist than just ABA.

Also although there have been significent cutbacks in behavior specialists in

Broward, if anyone feels that their child needs one then they need to go above

the ESE specialist of the school and either contact the district's autism

specialist that oversees your child's school or the principal and request that

a behavior specialist work with your child . I've done it in the past and would

gladly do it again if needed. I refuse to let behaviors ruin a school year and

prevent my daughter from learning properly.

Hope this info help.

Sent on the Sprint® Now Network from my BlackBerry®

Date: Fri, 23 Apr 2010 16:13:58 -0400

To: <sList >

Subject: Re: Re: Broward Schools uses

ABA

Actually

they are both the same thing.

A

behavior analyst can both assess/implement a behavior plan and provide good

teaching strategies. In its simplest definition, ABA is " good

teaching strategies. "

Teaching

is teaching, whether it be to stop hitting for attention or whether it be match

the object cup to the picture of the cup. People often learn what they

are good at and want to specialize in but behavior and teaching go

together.

One

can earn a Master's degree in Applied Behavior Analysis. One who has a

Bachelor's can take a 3 course series/sequence, earn supervision hours and take

a state exam and become a Board Certified Assistant Behavior Analyst

(BCaBA). One who has a Master's can take a 5 course series/sequence, earn

supervision hours and take a state exam to become a Board Certified Behavior

Analyst (BCBA).

School

districts implement behavior strategies in their classrooms and conduct

discrete trials based on the individual needs of the child and whether they

warrant that type of precision teaching/direct instruction. The Districts

offer trainings and train the teachers in these methods. Many school

districts opt to not hire Master's level practitioners, BCBA's or BCaBA's for

these behavioral positions due to cost but if one has the certification, it

just looks better on their resume.

Hope

this helps.

From: Gabi Co

Sent: Friday, April 23,

2010 1:28 PM

To: sList

Subject: Re:

Re: Broward Schools uses ABA

Yes, there's some confusion...

From: Heifferon <gary00001msn (DOT) com>

Subject: RE: Re: Broward Schools uses ABA

To: sList@ yahoogroups. com

Date: Thursday, April 22, 2010, 9:57 PM

Or to restate the

question, what Broward school did your child attend where he received ABA

once a week?

From: sList@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:sList

@yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of Ana Esparza

Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2010 3:42 PM

To: sList@ yahoogroups. com

Subject: Re: Re: Broward Schools uses ABA

,

What school does your child attend?

Ana

From: monicagomez1954 <monicagomez1954@

yahoo.com>

To: sList@ yahoogroups. com

Sent: Thu, April 22, 2010 3:02:31 PM

Subject: Re: Broward Schools uses ABA

The ABA will only come once a week in every school, they're not there

everyday for your child and if your child is in crisis..they still will

come one day a week and the school teacher's are not trained for the

crisis, sorry but it's the truth..been there..done that...I had to swtich

my child to a special school where they have ABA everyday.

>

> It is my understanding that Broward Schools now offers ABA in it's

schools. If you think your child needs it, I suggest you ask and make sure

you post your request in the Parent Input Section of your IEP.

>

[Guest guest]

There is a lot more to ABA than distinct trials (DT)! Many

people confuse ABA with DT but DT is only one tool in the ABA tool box…

Shirly

Shirly Gilad BCBA,RN, FNP, MS

Behavioral Therapy and then some.

Work:

Fax:

shirly@...

www.shirlygilad.com

From:

sList [mailto:sList ] On Behalf

Of meandmyraingirl@...

Sent: Saturday, April 24, 2010 9:35 AM

To: sList

Subject: Re: Re: Broward Schools uses ABA

Well, not really the same thing.

ABA is a type of behavior therapy. A behavior specialist has the credentials

has listed below but the plan that they may come up with may not necessarily be

a 'ABA' discrete trial type of approach.

My daughter has worked with a behavior specialist in the past to help her

overcome the bad behaviors that were interfering with her learning and the plan

that worked well with her was not a 'discrete trial' approach.

So there's a lot more to the role of a behavior specialist than just ABA.

Also although there have been significent cutbacks in behavior specialists in

Broward, if anyone feels that their child needs one then they need to go above

the ESE specialist of the school and either contact the district's autism

specialist that oversees your child's school or the principal and request that

a behavior specialist work with your child . I've done it in the past and would

gladly do it again if needed. I refuse to let behaviors ruin a school year and

prevent my daughter from learning properly.

Hope this info help.

Sent on the Sprint® Now Network from my BlackBerry®

Date: Fri, 23 Apr 2010 16:13:58 -0400

To: <sList >

Subject: Re: Re: Broward Schools uses

ABA

Actually

they are both the same thing.

A

behavior analyst can both assess/implement a behavior plan and provide good

teaching strategies. In its simplest definition, ABA is " good

teaching strategies. "

Teaching

is teaching, whether it be to stop hitting for attention or whether it be match

the object cup to the picture of the cup. People often learn what they

are good at and want to specialize in but behavior and teaching go

together.

One

can earn a Master's degree in Applied Behavior Analysis. One who has a

Bachelor's can take a 3 course series/sequence, earn supervision hours and take

a state exam and become a Board Certified Assistant Behavior Analyst

(BCaBA). One who has a Master's can take a 5 course series/sequence, earn

supervision hours and take a state exam to become a Board Certified Behavior

Analyst (BCBA).

School

districts implement behavior strategies in their classrooms and conduct

discrete trials based on the individual needs of the child and whether they

warrant that type of precision teaching/direct instruction. The Districts

offer trainings and train the teachers in these methods. Many school

districts opt to not hire Master's level practitioners, BCBA's or BCaBA's for

these behavioral positions due to cost but if one has the certification, it

just looks better on their resume.

Hope

this helps.

From: Gabi Co

Sent: Friday, April 23,

2010 1:28 PM

To: sList

Subject: Re:

Re: Broward Schools uses ABA

Yes, there's some confusion...

From: Heifferon <gary00001msn (DOT) com>

Subject: RE: Re: Broward Schools uses ABA

To: sList@ yahoogroups. com

Date: Thursday, April 22, 2010, 9:57 PM

Or to restate the

question, what Broward school did your child attend where he received ABA

once a week?

From: sList@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:sList

@yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of Ana Esparza

Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2010 3:42 PM

To: sList@ yahoogroups. com

Subject: Re: Re: Broward Schools uses ABA

,

What school does your child attend?

Ana

From: monicagomez1954 <monicagomez1954@

yahoo.com>

To: sList@ yahoogroups. com

Sent: Thu, April 22, 2010 3:02:31 PM

Subject: Re: Broward Schools uses ABA

The ABA will only come once a week in every school, they're not there

everyday for your child and if your child is in crisis..they still will

come one day a week and the school teacher's are not trained for the

crisis, sorry but it's the truth..been there..done that...I had to swtich

my child to a special school where they have ABA everyday.

>

> It is my understanding that Broward Schools now offers ABA in it's

schools. If you think your child needs it, I suggest you ask and make sure

you post your request in the Parent Input Section of your IEP.

>

[Guest guest]

Thank you. ABA stands for Applied Behavioral Analysis and a lot falls under that umbrella term. To say it's only discrete trial training or for problem behavior is inaccurate and spent encompass all of it's capacity.Anyone can call themselves a "behavior specialist" and address problem behavior. It doesn't mean they are educated, certified or are even being supervised by a board certified person. Anytime we are dealing with behavior, particularly problem behavior, we want to ask if a board certified person is analyzing the behavior, conducting a functional behavioral assessment and writing/implementing a program. People can be taught to take data and implement the strategies but ideally it should be overseen by a board certified person. Ideally.Sent from my iPhone

There is a lot more to ABA than distinct trials (DT)! Many

people confuse ABA with DT but DT is only one tool in the ABA tool box…

Shirly

<image001.jpg>

Shirly Gilad BCBA,RN, FNP, MS

Behavioral Therapy and then some.

Work:

Fax:

shirlyshirlygilad

www.shirlygilad.com

From:

sList [mailto:sList ] On Behalf

Of meandmyraingirl

Sent: Saturday, April 24, 2010 9:35 AM

To: sList

Subject: Re: Re: Broward Schools uses ABA

Well, not really the same thing.

ABA is a type of behavior therapy. A behavior specialist has the credentials

has listed below but the plan that they may come up with may not necessarily be

a 'ABA' discrete trial type of approach.

My daughter has worked with a behavior specialist in the past to help her

overcome the bad behaviors that were interfering with her learning and the plan

that worked well with her was not a 'discrete trial' approach.

So there's a lot more to the role of a behavior specialist than just ABA.

Also although there have been significent cutbacks in behavior specialists in

Broward, if anyone feels that their child needs one then they need to go above

the ESE specialist of the school and either contact the district's autism

specialist that oversees your child's school or the principal and request that

a behavior specialist work with your child . I've done it in the past and would

gladly do it again if needed. I refuse to let behaviors ruin a school year and

prevent my daughter from learning properly.

Hope this info help.

Sent on the Sprint® Now Network from my BlackBerry®

From: <austintandtbellsouth (DOT) net>

Date: Fri, 23 Apr 2010 16:13:58 -0400

To: <sList >

Subject: Re: Re: Broward Schools uses

ABA

Actually

they are both the same thing.

A

behavior analyst can both assess/implement a behavior plan and provide good

teaching strategies. In its simplest definition, ABA is "good

teaching strategies."

Teaching

is teaching, whether it be to stop hitting for attention or whether it be match

the object cup to the picture of the cup. People often learn what they

are good at and want to specialize in but behavior and teaching go

together.

One

can earn a Master's degree in Applied Behavior Analysis. One who has a

Bachelor's can take a 3 course series/sequence, earn supervision hours and take

a state exam and become a Board Certified Assistant Behavior Analyst

(BCaBA). One who has a Master's can take a 5 course series/sequence, earn

supervision hours and take a state exam to become a Board Certified Behavior

Analyst (BCBA).

School

districts implement behavior strategies in their classrooms and conduct

discrete trials based on the individual needs of the child and whether they

warrant that type of precision teaching/direct instruction. The Districts

offer trainings and train the teachers in these methods. Many school

districts opt to not hire Master's level practitioners, BCBA's or BCaBA's for

these behavioral positions due to cost but if one has the certification, it

just looks better on their resume.

Hope

this helps.

From: Gabi Co

Sent: Friday, April 23,

2010 1:28 PM

To: sList

Subject: Re:

Re: Broward Schools uses ABA

Yes, there's some confusion...

From: Heifferon <gary00001msn (DOT) com>

Subject: RE: Re: Broward Schools uses ABA

To: sList@ yahoogroups. com

Date: Thursday, April 22, 2010, 9:57 PM

Or to restate the

question, what Broward school did your child attend where he received ABA

once a week?

From: sList@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:sList

@yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of Ana Esparza

Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2010 3:42 PM

To: sList@ yahoogroups. com

Subject: Re: Re: Broward Schools uses ABA

,

What school does your child attend?

Ana

From: monicagomez1954 <monicagomez1954@

yahoo.com>

To: sList@ yahoogroups. com

Sent: Thu, April 22, 2010 3:02:31 PM

Subject: Re: Broward Schools uses ABA

The ABA will only come once a week in every school, they're not there

everyday for your child and if your child is in crisis..they still will

come one day a week and the school teacher's are not trained for the

crisis, sorry but it's the truth..been there..done that...I had to swtich

my child to a special school where they have ABA everyday.

>

> It is my understanding that Broward Schools now offers ABA in it's

schools. If you think your child needs it, I suggest you ask and make sure

you post your request in the Parent Input Section of your IEP.

>

[Guest guest]

Thank you. ABA stands for Applied Behavioral Analysis and a lot falls under that umbrella term. To say it's only discrete trial training or for problem behavior is inaccurate and spent encompass all of it's capacity.Anyone can call themselves a "behavior specialist" and address problem behavior. It doesn't mean they are educated, certified or are even being supervised by a board certified person. Anytime we are dealing with behavior, particularly problem behavior, we want to ask if a board certified person is analyzing the behavior, conducting a functional behavioral assessment and writing/implementing a program. People can be taught to take data and implement the strategies but ideally it should be overseen by a board certified person. Ideally.Sent from my iPhone

There is a lot more to ABA than distinct trials (DT)! Many

people confuse ABA with DT but DT is only one tool in the ABA tool box…

Shirly

<image001.jpg>

Shirly Gilad BCBA,RN, FNP, MS

Behavioral Therapy and then some.

Work:

Fax:

shirlyshirlygilad

www.shirlygilad.com

From:

sList [mailto:sList ] On Behalf

Of meandmyraingirl

Sent: Saturday, April 24, 2010 9:35 AM

To: sList

Subject: Re: Re: Broward Schools uses ABA

Well, not really the same thing.

ABA is a type of behavior therapy. A behavior specialist has the credentials

has listed below but the plan that they may come up with may not necessarily be

a 'ABA' discrete trial type of approach.

My daughter has worked with a behavior specialist in the past to help her

overcome the bad behaviors that were interfering with her learning and the plan

that worked well with her was not a 'discrete trial' approach.

So there's a lot more to the role of a behavior specialist than just ABA.

Also although there have been significent cutbacks in behavior specialists in

Broward, if anyone feels that their child needs one then they need to go above

the ESE specialist of the school and either contact the district's autism

specialist that oversees your child's school or the principal and request that

a behavior specialist work with your child . I've done it in the past and would

gladly do it again if needed. I refuse to let behaviors ruin a school year and

prevent my daughter from learning properly.

Hope this info help.

Sent on the Sprint® Now Network from my BlackBerry®

From: <austintandtbellsouth (DOT) net>

Date: Fri, 23 Apr 2010 16:13:58 -0400

To: <sList >

Subject: Re: Re: Broward Schools uses

ABA

Actually

they are both the same thing.

A

behavior analyst can both assess/implement a behavior plan and provide good

teaching strategies. In its simplest definition, ABA is "good

teaching strategies."

Teaching

is teaching, whether it be to stop hitting for attention or whether it be match

the object cup to the picture of the cup. People often learn what they

are good at and want to specialize in but behavior and teaching go

together.

One

can earn a Master's degree in Applied Behavior Analysis. One who has a

Bachelor's can take a 3 course series/sequence, earn supervision hours and take

a state exam and become a Board Certified Assistant Behavior Analyst

(BCaBA). One who has a Master's can take a 5 course series/sequence, earn

supervision hours and take a state exam to become a Board Certified Behavior

Analyst (BCBA).

School

districts implement behavior strategies in their classrooms and conduct

discrete trials based on the individual needs of the child and whether they

warrant that type of precision teaching/direct instruction. The Districts

offer trainings and train the teachers in these methods. Many school

districts opt to not hire Master's level practitioners, BCBA's or BCaBA's for

these behavioral positions due to cost but if one has the certification, it

just looks better on their resume.

Hope

this helps.

From: Gabi Co

Sent: Friday, April 23,

2010 1:28 PM

To: sList

Subject: Re:

Re: Broward Schools uses ABA

Yes, there's some confusion...

From: Heifferon <gary00001msn (DOT) com>

Subject: RE: Re: Broward Schools uses ABA

To: sList@ yahoogroups. com

Date: Thursday, April 22, 2010, 9:57 PM

Or to restate the

question, what Broward school did your child attend where he received ABA

once a week?

From: sList@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:sList

@yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of Ana Esparza

Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2010 3:42 PM

To: sList@ yahoogroups. com

Subject: Re: Re: Broward Schools uses ABA

,

What school does your child attend?

Ana

From: monicagomez1954 <monicagomez1954@

yahoo.com>

To: sList@ yahoogroups. com

Sent: Thu, April 22, 2010 3:02:31 PM

Subject: Re: Broward Schools uses ABA

The ABA will only come once a week in every school, they're not there

everyday for your child and if your child is in crisis..they still will

come one day a week and the school teacher's are not trained for the

crisis, sorry but it's the truth..been there..done that...I had to swtich

my child to a special school where they have ABA everyday.

>

> It is my understanding that Broward Schools now offers ABA in it's

schools. If you think your child needs it, I suggest you ask and make sure

you post your request in the Parent Input Section of your IEP.

>

[Guest guest]

Hello Marva,

I'm sorry but i might have  been a little insensitive to suggest

that autism coaches are not able to do anything beyond breathing. Their only

teaching duties are to teach faculty and staff and not students. I cannot find

my copy of the requirements for the position but I don't remember it mentioning

2 years of experience in teaching children with autism. Maybe you can refer me

to the proper site.  Thanks

From:

sList [mailto:sList ] On Behalf

Of marva_knight@...

Sent: Saturday, April 24, 2010 12:02 PM

To: sList

Subject: Re: Re: Broward Schools uses ABA

,

The general job description for an autism coach states they must have at least

2 years successful years of teaching children with autism.

One of the many roles that's not stated is that they are the curriculum person

for the cluster classes. That means they must be versed in not only the TEACCH

System but also in general curriculum and discrete trials at some schools.

Coaches also train, model and support teachers. They write IEPs, substitute in

cluster classes, attend required trainings and many, many, other duties as

assigned.

I think it takes more than " the ability to breathe " or even a minimal

knowledge of autism to do this job and be a source of support to teachers,

students and families.

Sent on the Sprint® Now Network from my BlackBerry®

Date: Sat, 24 Apr 2010 09:15:13 -0400

To: <sList >

Subject: RE: Re: Broward Schools uses

ABA

No wonder it is such a mess!! It reminds

me of the saying, " A little bit of knowledge can be harmful. "

In considering the qualifications of the position the outcome may be more

like, " the blind leading the blind " . Would you hire a teacher

who " generally knows " about teaching? So, why hire an autism coach

who may know something about autism and/or behavior? Non of them are required

to know anything about autism or behavior. If I'm wrong about their

qualifications, where am I wrong?

From:

sList [mailto:sList ] On Behalf

Of austintandt@...

Sent: Friday, April 23, 2010 4:19 PM

To: sList

Subject: Re: Re: Broward Schools uses ABA

Autism coaches generally know a lot about behavior and

help teachers to implement strategies for both behavioral issues and academics.

Often, implementing visuals, social stories, etc. is

enough to assist a child in being successful in the classroom.

The coaches also assist in setting up the classrooms

in ways that help the students access their curriculum. They help

with scheduling, collaborate with teachers and agencies like CARD. They

attend a lot of trainings.

From: meandmyraingirl@...

Sent: Friday, April 23, 2010 12:31 PM

To: sList

Subject: Re: Re: Broward Schools uses ABA

They now expect the autism coach to be the 'behavioral specialist.'

Sent on the Sprint® Now Network from my BlackBerry®

From:

Gabi Co

Date:

Fri, 23 Apr 2010 07:59:52 -0700 (PDT)

To:

<sList >

Subject:

Re: Re: Broward Schools uses ABA

so

it's even worse...

The once a week schedule I heard from Everglades, where they do have a

cluster with an Autism coach, but no behavior specialist.

Gabi

From: Heifferon <gary00001msn (DOT) com>

Subject: RE: Re: Broward Schools uses ABA

To: sList@ yahoogroups. com

Date: Thursday, April 22, 2010, 9:57 PM

Or to restate the

question, what Broward school did your child attend where he received ABA

once a week?

From: sList@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:sList

@yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of Ana Esparza

Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2010 3:42 PM

To: sList@ yahoogroups. com

Subject: Re: Re: Broward Schools uses ABA

,

What school does your child attend?

Ana

From: monicagomez1954 <monicagomez1954@ yahoo.com>

To: sList@ yahoogroups. com

Sent: Thu, April 22, 2010 3:02:31 PM

Subject: Re: Broward Schools uses ABA

The ABA will only come once a week in every school, they're not there

everyday for your child and if your child is in crisis..they still will come

one day a week and the school teacher's are not trained for the crisis,

sorry but it's the truth..been there..done that...I had to swtich my child

to a special school where they have ABA everyday.

>

> It is my understanding that Broward Schools now offers ABA in it's

schools. If you think your child needs it, I suggest you ask and make sure

you post your request in the Parent Input Section of your IEP.

>

[Guest guest]

Hello Marva,

I'm sorry but i might have  been a little insensitive to suggest

that autism coaches are not able to do anything beyond breathing. Their only

teaching duties are to teach faculty and staff and not students. I cannot find

my copy of the requirements for the position but I don't remember it mentioning

2 years of experience in teaching children with autism. Maybe you can refer me

to the proper site.  Thanks

From:

sList [mailto:sList ] On Behalf

Of marva_knight@...

Sent: Saturday, April 24, 2010 12:02 PM

To: sList

Subject: Re: Re: Broward Schools uses ABA

,

The general job description for an autism coach states they must have at least

2 years successful years of teaching children with autism.

One of the many roles that's not stated is that they are the curriculum person

for the cluster classes. That means they must be versed in not only the TEACCH

System but also in general curriculum and discrete trials at some schools.

Coaches also train, model and support teachers. They write IEPs, substitute in

cluster classes, attend required trainings and many, many, other duties as

assigned.

I think it takes more than " the ability to breathe " or even a minimal

knowledge of autism to do this job and be a source of support to teachers,

students and families.

Sent on the Sprint® Now Network from my BlackBerry®

Date: Sat, 24 Apr 2010 09:15:13 -0400

To: <sList >

Subject: RE: Re: Broward Schools uses

ABA

No wonder it is such a mess!! It reminds

me of the saying, " A little bit of knowledge can be harmful. "

In considering the qualifications of the position the outcome may be more

like, " the blind leading the blind " . Would you hire a teacher

who " generally knows " about teaching? So, why hire an autism coach

who may know something about autism and/or behavior? Non of them are required

to know anything about autism or behavior. If I'm wrong about their

qualifications, where am I wrong?

From:

sList [mailto:sList ] On Behalf

Of austintandt@...

Sent: Friday, April 23, 2010 4:19 PM

To: sList

Subject: Re: Re: Broward Schools uses ABA

Autism coaches generally know a lot about behavior and

help teachers to implement strategies for both behavioral issues and academics.

Often, implementing visuals, social stories, etc. is

enough to assist a child in being successful in the classroom.

The coaches also assist in setting up the classrooms

in ways that help the students access their curriculum. They help

with scheduling, collaborate with teachers and agencies like CARD. They

attend a lot of trainings.

From: meandmyraingirl@...

Sent: Friday, April 23, 2010 12:31 PM

To: sList

Subject: Re: Re: Broward Schools uses ABA

They now expect the autism coach to be the 'behavioral specialist.'

Sent on the Sprint® Now Network from my BlackBerry®

From:

Gabi Co

Date:

Fri, 23 Apr 2010 07:59:52 -0700 (PDT)

To:

<sList >

Subject:

Re: Re: Broward Schools uses ABA

so

it's even worse...

The once a week schedule I heard from Everglades, where they do have a

cluster with an Autism coach, but no behavior specialist.

Gabi

From: Heifferon <gary00001msn (DOT) com>

Subject: RE: Re: Broward Schools uses ABA

To: sList@ yahoogroups. com

Date: Thursday, April 22, 2010, 9:57 PM

Or to restate the

question, what Broward school did your child attend where he received ABA

once a week?

From: sList@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:sList

@yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of Ana Esparza

Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2010 3:42 PM

To: sList@ yahoogroups. com

Subject: Re: Re: Broward Schools uses ABA

,

What school does your child attend?

Ana

From: monicagomez1954 <monicagomez1954@ yahoo.com>

To: sList@ yahoogroups. com

Sent: Thu, April 22, 2010 3:02:31 PM

Subject: Re: Broward Schools uses ABA

The ABA will only come once a week in every school, they're not there

everyday for your child and if your child is in crisis..they still will come

one day a week and the school teacher's are not trained for the crisis,

sorry but it's the truth..been there..done that...I had to swtich my child

to a special school where they have ABA everyday.

>

> It is my understanding that Broward Schools now offers ABA in it's

schools. If you think your child needs it, I suggest you ask and make sure

you post your request in the Parent Input Section of your IEP.

>

[Guest guest]

Hello Marva,

I'm sorry but i might have  been a little insensitive to suggest

that autism coaches are not able to do anything beyond breathing. Their only

teaching duties are to teach faculty and staff and not students. I cannot find

my copy of the requirements for the position but I don't remember it mentioning

2 years of experience in teaching children with autism. Maybe you can refer me

to the proper site.  Thanks

From:

sList [mailto:sList ] On Behalf

Of marva_knight@...

Sent: Saturday, April 24, 2010 12:02 PM

To: sList

Subject: Re: Re: Broward Schools uses ABA

,

The general job description for an autism coach states they must have at least

2 years successful years of teaching children with autism.

One of the many roles that's not stated is that they are the curriculum person

for the cluster classes. That means they must be versed in not only the TEACCH

System but also in general curriculum and discrete trials at some schools.

Coaches also train, model and support teachers. They write IEPs, substitute in

cluster classes, attend required trainings and many, many, other duties as

assigned.

I think it takes more than " the ability to breathe " or even a minimal

knowledge of autism to do this job and be a source of support to teachers,

students and families.

Sent on the Sprint® Now Network from my BlackBerry®

Date: Sat, 24 Apr 2010 09:15:13 -0400

To: <sList >

Subject: RE: Re: Broward Schools uses

ABA

No wonder it is such a mess!! It reminds

me of the saying, " A little bit of knowledge can be harmful. "

In considering the qualifications of the position the outcome may be more

like, " the blind leading the blind " . Would you hire a teacher

who " generally knows " about teaching? So, why hire an autism coach

who may know something about autism and/or behavior? Non of them are required

to know anything about autism or behavior. If I'm wrong about their

qualifications, where am I wrong?

From:

sList [mailto:sList ] On Behalf

Of austintandt@...

Sent: Friday, April 23, 2010 4:19 PM

To: sList

Subject: Re: Re: Broward Schools uses ABA

Autism coaches generally know a lot about behavior and

help teachers to implement strategies for both behavioral issues and academics.

Often, implementing visuals, social stories, etc. is

enough to assist a child in being successful in the classroom.

The coaches also assist in setting up the classrooms

in ways that help the students access their curriculum. They help

with scheduling, collaborate with teachers and agencies like CARD. They

attend a lot of trainings.

From: meandmyraingirl@...

Sent: Friday, April 23, 2010 12:31 PM

To: sList

Subject: Re: Re: Broward Schools uses ABA

They now expect the autism coach to be the 'behavioral specialist.'

Sent on the Sprint® Now Network from my BlackBerry®

From:

Gabi Co

Date:

Fri, 23 Apr 2010 07:59:52 -0700 (PDT)

To:

<sList >

Subject:

Re: Re: Broward Schools uses ABA

so

it's even worse...

The once a week schedule I heard from Everglades, where they do have a

cluster with an Autism coach, but no behavior specialist.

Gabi

From: Heifferon <gary00001msn (DOT) com>

Subject: RE: Re: Broward Schools uses ABA

To: sList@ yahoogroups. com

Date: Thursday, April 22, 2010, 9:57 PM

Or to restate the

question, what Broward school did your child attend where he received ABA

once a week?

From: sList@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:sList

@yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of Ana Esparza

Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2010 3:42 PM

To: sList@ yahoogroups. com

Subject: Re: Re: Broward Schools uses ABA

,

What school does your child attend?

Ana

From: monicagomez1954 <monicagomez1954@ yahoo.com>

To: sList@ yahoogroups. com

Sent: Thu, April 22, 2010 3:02:31 PM

Subject: Re: Broward Schools uses ABA

The ABA will only come once a week in every school, they're not there

everyday for your child and if your child is in crisis..they still will come

one day a week and the school teacher's are not trained for the crisis,

sorry but it's the truth..been there..done that...I had to swtich my child

to a special school where they have ABA everyday.

>

> It is my understanding that Broward Schools now offers ABA in it's

schools. If you think your child needs it, I suggest you ask and make sure

you post your request in the Parent Input Section of your IEP.

>

[Guest guest]

, The years of experience requirement is listed on the county vacancy list when those jobs are posted. A coach cannot teach a skill to another teacher that she/he have little or no knowlege of so I would think they must be experienced in the field. Sent on the Sprint® Now Network from my BlackBerry®Date: Sat, 24 Apr 2010 16:53:25 -0400To: <sList >Subject: RE: Re: Broward Schools uses ABA Hello Marva, I'm sorry but i might have  been a little insensitive to suggestthat autism coaches are not able to do anything beyond breathing. Their onlyteaching duties are to teach faculty and staff and not students. I cannot findmy copy of the requirements for the position but I don't remember it mentioning2 years of experience in teaching children with autism. Maybe you can refer meto the proper site.  Thanks From:sList [mailto:sList ] On BehalfOf marva_knightSent: Saturday, April 24, 2010 12:02 PMTo: sList Subject: Re: Re: Broward Schools uses ABA ,The general job description for an autism coach states they must have at least2 years successful years of teaching children with autism. One of the many roles that's not stated is that they are the curriculum personfor the cluster classes. That means they must be versed in not only the TEACCHSystem but also in general curriculum and discrete trials at some schools.Coaches also train, model and support teachers. They write IEPs, substitute incluster classes, attend required trainings and many, many, other duties asassigned. I think it takes more than " the ability to breathe " or even a minimalknowledge of autism to do this job and be a source of support to teachers,students and families. Sent on the Sprint® Now Network from my BlackBerry®From: " Heifferon " <gary00001msn>Date: Sat, 24 Apr 2010 09:15:13 -0400To: <sList >Subject: RE: Re: Broward Schools usesABA No wonder it is such a mess!! It remindsme of the saying, " A little bit of knowledge can be harmful. " In considering the qualifications of the position the outcome may be morelike, " the blind leading the blind " . Would you hire a teacherwho " generally knows " about teaching? So, why hire an autism coachwho may know something about autism and/or behavior? Non of them are requiredto know anything about autism or behavior. If I'm wrong about theirqualifications, where am I wrong? From:sList [mailto:sList ] On BehalfOf austintandtbellsouth (DOT) netSent: Friday, April 23, 2010 4:19 PMTo: sList Subject: Re: Re: Broward Schools uses ABA Autism coaches generally know a lot about behavior andhelp teachers to implement strategies for both behavioral issues and academics. Often, implementing visuals, social stories, etc. isenough to assist a child in being successful in the classroom. The coaches also assist in setting up the classroomsin ways that help the students access their curriculum. They helpwith scheduling, collaborate with teachers and agencies like CARD. Theyattend a lot of trainings. From: meandmyraingirlSent: Friday, April 23, 2010 12:31 PMTo: sList Subject: Re: Re: Broward Schools uses ABA They now expect the autism coach to be the 'behavioral specialist.'Sent on the Sprint® Now Network from my BlackBerry®From:Gabi Co <bijcom> Date:Fri, 23 Apr 2010 07:59:52 -0700 (PDT)To:<sList >Subject:Re: Re: Broward Schools uses ABA soit's even worse...The once a week schedule I heard from Everglades, where they do have acluster with an Autism coach, but no behavior specialist.GabiFrom: Heifferon <gary00001msn (DOT) com>Subject: RE: Re: Broward Schools uses ABATo: sList@ yahoogroups. comDate: Thursday, April 22, 2010, 9:57 PM Or to restate thequestion, what Broward school did your child attend where he received ABAonce a week? From: sList@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:sListyahoogroups (DOT) com] On Behalf Of Ana EsparzaSent: Thursday, April 22, 2010 3:42 PMTo: sList@ yahoogroups. comSubject: Re: Re: Broward Schools uses ABA , What school does your child attend? Ana From: monicagomez1954 <monicagomez1954@ yahoo.com>To: sList@ yahoogroups. comSent: Thu, April 22, 2010 3:02:31 PMSubject: Re: Broward Schools uses ABA The ABA will only come once a week in every school, they're not thereeveryday for your child and if your child is in crisis..they still will comeone day a week and the school teacher's are not trained for the crisis,sorry but it's the truth..been there..done that...I had to swtich my childto a special school where they have ABA everyday.>> It is my understanding that Broward Schools now offers ABA in it'sschools. If you think your child needs it, I suggest you ask and make sureyou post your request in the Parent Input Section of your IEP.>

[Guest guest]

, The years of experience requirement is listed on the county vacancy list when those jobs are posted. A coach cannot teach a skill to another teacher that she/he have little or no knowlege of so I would think they must be experienced in the field. Sent on the Sprint® Now Network from my BlackBerry®Date: Sat, 24 Apr 2010 16:53:25 -0400To: <sList >Subject: RE: Re: Broward Schools uses ABA Hello Marva, I'm sorry but i might have  been a little insensitive to suggestthat autism coaches are not able to do anything beyond breathing. Their onlyteaching duties are to teach faculty and staff and not students. I cannot findmy copy of the requirements for the position but I don't remember it mentioning2 years of experience in teaching children with autism. Maybe you can refer meto the proper site.  Thanks From:sList [mailto:sList ] On BehalfOf marva_knightSent: Saturday, April 24, 2010 12:02 PMTo: sList Subject: Re: Re: Broward Schools uses ABA ,The general job description for an autism coach states they must have at least2 years successful years of teaching children with autism. One of the many roles that's not stated is that they are the curriculum personfor the cluster classes. That means they must be versed in not only the TEACCHSystem but also in general curriculum and discrete trials at some schools.Coaches also train, model and support teachers. They write IEPs, substitute incluster classes, attend required trainings and many, many, other duties asassigned. I think it takes more than " the ability to breathe " or even a minimalknowledge of autism to do this job and be a source of support to teachers,students and families. Sent on the Sprint® Now Network from my BlackBerry®From: " Heifferon " <gary00001msn>Date: Sat, 24 Apr 2010 09:15:13 -0400To: <sList >Subject: RE: Re: Broward Schools usesABA No wonder it is such a mess!! It remindsme of the saying, " A little bit of knowledge can be harmful. " In considering the qualifications of the position the outcome may be morelike, " the blind leading the blind " . Would you hire a teacherwho " generally knows " about teaching? So, why hire an autism coachwho may know something about autism and/or behavior? Non of them are requiredto know anything about autism or behavior. If I'm wrong about theirqualifications, where am I wrong? From:sList [mailto:sList ] On BehalfOf austintandtbellsouth (DOT) netSent: Friday, April 23, 2010 4:19 PMTo: sList Subject: Re: Re: Broward Schools uses ABA Autism coaches generally know a lot about behavior andhelp teachers to implement strategies for both behavioral issues and academics. Often, implementing visuals, social stories, etc. isenough to assist a child in being successful in the classroom. The coaches also assist in setting up the classroomsin ways that help the students access their curriculum. They helpwith scheduling, collaborate with teachers and agencies like CARD. Theyattend a lot of trainings. From: meandmyraingirlSent: Friday, April 23, 2010 12:31 PMTo: sList Subject: Re: Re: Broward Schools uses ABA They now expect the autism coach to be the 'behavioral specialist.'Sent on the Sprint® Now Network from my BlackBerry®From:Gabi Co <bijcom> Date:Fri, 23 Apr 2010 07:59:52 -0700 (PDT)To:<sList >Subject:Re: Re: Broward Schools uses ABA soit's even worse...The once a week schedule I heard from Everglades, where they do have acluster with an Autism coach, but no behavior specialist.GabiFrom: Heifferon <gary00001msn (DOT) com>Subject: RE: Re: Broward Schools uses ABATo: sList@ yahoogroups. comDate: Thursday, April 22, 2010, 9:57 PM Or to restate thequestion, what Broward school did your child attend where he received ABAonce a week? From: sList@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:sListyahoogroups (DOT) com] On Behalf Of Ana EsparzaSent: Thursday, April 22, 2010 3:42 PMTo: sList@ yahoogroups. comSubject: Re: Re: Broward Schools uses ABA , What school does your child attend? Ana From: monicagomez1954 <monicagomez1954@ yahoo.com>To: sList@ yahoogroups. comSent: Thu, April 22, 2010 3:02:31 PMSubject: Re: Broward Schools uses ABA The ABA will only come once a week in every school, they're not thereeveryday for your child and if your child is in crisis..they still will comeone day a week and the school teacher's are not trained for the crisis,sorry but it's the truth..been there..done that...I had to swtich my childto a special school where they have ABA everyday.>> It is my understanding that Broward Schools now offers ABA in it'sschools. If you think your child needs it, I suggest you ask and make sureyou post your request in the Parent Input Section of your IEP.>

[Guest guest]

, The years of experience requirement is listed on the county vacancy list when those jobs are posted. A coach cannot teach a skill to another teacher that she/he have little or no knowlege of so I would think they must be experienced in the field. Sent on the Sprint® Now Network from my BlackBerry®Date: Sat, 24 Apr 2010 16:53:25 -0400To: <sList >Subject: RE: Re: Broward Schools uses ABA Hello Marva, I'm sorry but i might have  been a little insensitive to suggestthat autism coaches are not able to do anything beyond breathing. Their onlyteaching duties are to teach faculty and staff and not students. I cannot findmy copy of the requirements for the position but I don't remember it mentioning2 years of experience in teaching children with autism. Maybe you can refer meto the proper site.  Thanks From:sList [mailto:sList ] On BehalfOf marva_knightSent: Saturday, April 24, 2010 12:02 PMTo: sList Subject: Re: Re: Broward Schools uses ABA ,The general job description for an autism coach states they must have at least2 years successful years of teaching children with autism. One of the many roles that's not stated is that they are the curriculum personfor the cluster classes. That means they must be versed in not only the TEACCHSystem but also in general curriculum and discrete trials at some schools.Coaches also train, model and support teachers. They write IEPs, substitute incluster classes, attend required trainings and many, many, other duties asassigned. I think it takes more than " the ability to breathe " or even a minimalknowledge of autism to do this job and be a source of support to teachers,students and families. Sent on the Sprint® Now Network from my BlackBerry®From: " Heifferon " <gary00001msn>Date: Sat, 24 Apr 2010 09:15:13 -0400To: <sList >Subject: RE: Re: Broward Schools usesABA No wonder it is such a mess!! It remindsme of the saying, " A little bit of knowledge can be harmful. " In considering the qualifications of the position the outcome may be morelike, " the blind leading the blind " . Would you hire a teacherwho " generally knows " about teaching? So, why hire an autism coachwho may know something about autism and/or behavior? Non of them are requiredto know anything about autism or behavior. If I'm wrong about theirqualifications, where am I wrong? From:sList [mailto:sList ] On BehalfOf austintandtbellsouth (DOT) netSent: Friday, April 23, 2010 4:19 PMTo: sList Subject: Re: Re: Broward Schools uses ABA Autism coaches generally know a lot about behavior andhelp teachers to implement strategies for both behavioral issues and academics. Often, implementing visuals, social stories, etc. isenough to assist a child in being successful in the classroom. The coaches also assist in setting up the classroomsin ways that help the students access their curriculum. They helpwith scheduling, collaborate with teachers and agencies like CARD. Theyattend a lot of trainings. From: meandmyraingirlSent: Friday, April 23, 2010 12:31 PMTo: sList Subject: Re: Re: Broward Schools uses ABA They now expect the autism coach to be the 'behavioral specialist.'Sent on the Sprint® Now Network from my BlackBerry®From:Gabi Co <bijcom> Date:Fri, 23 Apr 2010 07:59:52 -0700 (PDT)To:<sList >Subject:Re: Re: Broward Schools uses ABA soit's even worse...The once a week schedule I heard from Everglades, where they do have acluster with an Autism coach, but no behavior specialist.GabiFrom: Heifferon <gary00001msn (DOT) com>Subject: RE: Re: Broward Schools uses ABATo: sList@ yahoogroups. comDate: Thursday, April 22, 2010, 9:57 PM Or to restate thequestion, what Broward school did your child attend where he received ABAonce a week? From: sList@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:sListyahoogroups (DOT) com] On Behalf Of Ana EsparzaSent: Thursday, April 22, 2010 3:42 PMTo: sList@ yahoogroups. comSubject: Re: Re: Broward Schools uses ABA , What school does your child attend? Ana From: monicagomez1954 <monicagomez1954@ yahoo.com>To: sList@ yahoogroups. comSent: Thu, April 22, 2010 3:02:31 PMSubject: Re: Broward Schools uses ABA The ABA will only come once a week in every school, they're not thereeveryday for your child and if your child is in crisis..they still will comeone day a week and the school teacher's are not trained for the crisis,sorry but it's the truth..been there..done that...I had to swtich my childto a special school where they have ABA everyday.>> It is my understanding that Broward Schools now offers ABA in it'sschools. If you think your child needs it, I suggest you ask and make sureyou post your request in the Parent Input Section of your IEP.>

[Guest guest]

I think it is all a part of the Discovery Process. Attorney says

to the School District, you deny ABA. School says no we don't. Attorney says

give me the records. District says no, we don't have to. Federal Judge says,

produce the records.

From:

sList [mailto:sList ] On Behalf

Of Steve

Sent: Saturday, April 24, 2010 7:00 PM

To: sList

Subject: Re: Broward Schools uses ABA

If Broward County Schools do not routinely deny

ABA for autistic students then I seriously doubt a Federal Judge would have

granted access to 10 years of IEP's of autistic students to an attorney who's

case says exactly that.

Steve

[Guest guest]

I think it is important to look at minimum qualifications

for a position. Ace provides the following qualifications:

Education: Florida

certification in Varying Exceptionalities, Speech/Language Pathology, Mentally

Handicapped, Emotionally

Handicapped or commensurate experience working in the

classroom with autistic

children.

This is a perfect example of writing a description that

includes everyone or anyone. The certification can be in an area not pertinent

to autism. When it states " or commensurate experience working in

the classroom with autistic children " negates the requirement for any type

of certification. What kind of experience working with autistic children is not

stated.

Experience: Five years in

exceptional student education or 3 years working with children with autistic

spectrum disorders and

their families preferred.

I have always thought a preference was not a requirement.

Therefore, under experience there is no requirement.

1. This is a non teaching position and does not require

any teaching experience.

2. Any Aide could qualify for the position and have

commensurate experience regardless of educational background.

3.Actually there is no education requirement.

From: sList

[mailto:sList ] On Behalf Of marva_knight@...

Sent: Saturday, April 24, 2010 12:02 PM

To: sList

Subject: Re: Re: Broward Schools uses ABA

,

The general job description for an autism coach states they must have at least

2 years successful years of teaching children with autism.

One of the many roles that's not stated is that they are the curriculum person

for the cluster classes. That means they must be versed in not only the TEACCH

System but also in general curriculum and discrete trials at some schools.

Coaches also train, model and support teachers. They write IEPs, substitute in

cluster classes, attend required trainings and many, many, other duties as

assigned.

I think it takes more than " the ability to breathe " or even a minimal

knowledge of autism to do this job and be a source of support to teachers,

students and families.

Sent on the Sprint® Now Network from my BlackBerry®

Date: Sat, 24 Apr 2010 09:15:13 -0400

To: <sList >

Subject: RE: Re: Broward Schools uses

ABA

No wonder it is such a mess!! It reminds

me of the saying, " A little bit of knowledge can be harmful. " In

considering the qualifications of the position the outcome may be more like,

" the blind leading the blind " . Would you hire a teacher who

" generally knows " about teaching? So, why hire an autism coach who

may know something about autism and/or behavior? Non of them are required to

know anything about autism or behavior. If I'm wrong about their

qualifications, where am I wrong?

From:

sList [mailto:sList ] On Behalf

Of austintandt@...

Sent: Friday, April 23, 2010 4:19 PM

To: sList

Subject: Re: Re: Broward Schools uses ABA

Autism coaches generally know a lot about behavior and

help teachers to implement strategies for both behavioral issues and academics.

Often, implementing visuals, social stories, etc. is

enough to assist a child in being successful in the classroom.

The coaches also assist in setting up the classrooms

in ways that help the students access their curriculum. They help

with scheduling, collaborate with teachers and agencies like CARD. They

attend a lot of trainings.

From: meandmyraingirl@...

Sent: Friday, April 23, 2010 12:31 PM

To: sList

Subject: Re: Re: Broward Schools uses ABA

They now expect the autism coach to be the 'behavioral specialist.'

Sent on the Sprint® Now Network from my BlackBerry®

From:

Gabi Co

Date:

Fri, 23 Apr 2010 07:59:52 -0700 (PDT)

To:

<sList >

Subject:

Re: Re: Broward Schools uses ABA

so

it's even worse...

The once a week schedule I heard from Everglades, where they do have a

cluster with an Autism coach, but no behavior specialist.

Gabi

From: Heifferon <gary00001msn (DOT) com>

Subject: RE: Re: Broward Schools uses ABA

To: sList@ yahoogroups. com

Date: Thursday, April 22, 2010, 9:57 PM

Or to restate the

question, what Broward school did your child attend where he received ABA

once a week?

From: sList@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:sList

@yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of Ana Esparza

Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2010 3:42 PM

To: sList@ yahoogroups. com

Subject: Re: Re: Broward Schools uses ABA

,

What school does your child attend?

Ana

From: monicagomez1954 <monicagomez1954@ yahoo.com>

To: sList@ yahoogroups. com

Sent: Thu, April 22, 2010 3:02:31 PM

Subject: Re: Broward Schools uses ABA

The ABA will only come once a week in every school, they're not there

everyday for your child and if your child is in crisis..they still will

come one day a week and the school teacher's are not trained for the

crisis, sorry but it's the truth..been there..done that...I had to swtich

my child to a special school where they have ABA everyday.

>

> It is my understanding that Broward Schools now offers ABA in it's

schools. If you think your child needs it, I suggest you ask and make sure

you post your request in the Parent Input Section of your IEP.

>

[Guest guest]

I think it is important to look at minimum qualifications

for a position. Ace provides the following qualifications:

Education: Florida

certification in Varying Exceptionalities, Speech/Language Pathology, Mentally

Handicapped, Emotionally

Handicapped or commensurate experience working in the

classroom with autistic

children.

This is a perfect example of writing a description that

includes everyone or anyone. The certification can be in an area not pertinent

to autism. When it states " or commensurate experience working in

the classroom with autistic children " negates the requirement for any type

of certification. What kind of experience working with autistic children is not

stated.

Experience: Five years in

exceptional student education or 3 years working with children with autistic

spectrum disorders and

their families preferred.

I have always thought a preference was not a requirement.

Therefore, under experience there is no requirement.

1. This is a non teaching position and does not require

any teaching experience.

2. Any Aide could qualify for the position and have

commensurate experience regardless of educational background.

3.Actually there is no education requirement.

From: sList

[mailto:sList ] On Behalf Of marva_knight@...

Sent: Saturday, April 24, 2010 12:02 PM

To: sList

Subject: Re: Re: Broward Schools uses ABA

,

The general job description for an autism coach states they must have at least

2 years successful years of teaching children with autism.

One of the many roles that's not stated is that they are the curriculum person

for the cluster classes. That means they must be versed in not only the TEACCH

System but also in general curriculum and discrete trials at some schools.

Coaches also train, model and support teachers. They write IEPs, substitute in

cluster classes, attend required trainings and many, many, other duties as

assigned.

I think it takes more than " the ability to breathe " or even a minimal

knowledge of autism to do this job and be a source of support to teachers,

students and families.

Sent on the Sprint® Now Network from my BlackBerry®

Date: Sat, 24 Apr 2010 09:15:13 -0400

To: <sList >

Subject: RE: Re: Broward Schools uses

ABA

No wonder it is such a mess!! It reminds

me of the saying, " A little bit of knowledge can be harmful. " In

considering the qualifications of the position the outcome may be more like,

" the blind leading the blind " . Would you hire a teacher who

" generally knows " about teaching? So, why hire an autism coach who

may know something about autism and/or behavior? Non of them are required to

know anything about autism or behavior. If I'm wrong about their

qualifications, where am I wrong?

From:

sList [mailto:sList ] On Behalf

Of austintandt@...

Sent: Friday, April 23, 2010 4:19 PM

To: sList

Subject: Re: Re: Broward Schools uses ABA

Autism coaches generally know a lot about behavior and

help teachers to implement strategies for both behavioral issues and academics.

Often, implementing visuals, social stories, etc. is

enough to assist a child in being successful in the classroom.

The coaches also assist in setting up the classrooms

in ways that help the students access their curriculum. They help

with scheduling, collaborate with teachers and agencies like CARD. They

attend a lot of trainings.

From: meandmyraingirl@...

Sent: Friday, April 23, 2010 12:31 PM

To: sList

Subject: Re: Re: Broward Schools uses ABA

They now expect the autism coach to be the 'behavioral specialist.'

Sent on the Sprint® Now Network from my BlackBerry®

From:

Gabi Co

Date:

Fri, 23 Apr 2010 07:59:52 -0700 (PDT)

To:

<sList >

Subject:

Re: Re: Broward Schools uses ABA

so

it's even worse...

The once a week schedule I heard from Everglades, where they do have a

cluster with an Autism coach, but no behavior specialist.

Gabi

From: Heifferon <gary00001msn (DOT) com>

Subject: RE: Re: Broward Schools uses ABA

To: sList@ yahoogroups. com

Date: Thursday, April 22, 2010, 9:57 PM

Or to restate the

question, what Broward school did your child attend where he received ABA

once a week?

From: sList@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:sList

@yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of Ana Esparza

Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2010 3:42 PM

To: sList@ yahoogroups. com

Subject: Re: Re: Broward Schools uses ABA

,

What school does your child attend?

Ana

From: monicagomez1954 <monicagomez1954@ yahoo.com>

To: sList@ yahoogroups. com

Sent: Thu, April 22, 2010 3:02:31 PM

Subject: Re: Broward Schools uses ABA

The ABA will only come once a week in every school, they're not there

everyday for your child and if your child is in crisis..they still will

come one day a week and the school teacher's are not trained for the

crisis, sorry but it's the truth..been there..done that...I had to swtich

my child to a special school where they have ABA everyday.

>

> It is my understanding that Broward Schools now offers ABA in it's

schools. If you think your child needs it, I suggest you ask and make sure

you post your request in the Parent Input Section of your IEP.

>

[Guest guest]

I think it is important to look at minimum qualifications

for a position. Ace provides the following qualifications:

Education: Florida

certification in Varying Exceptionalities, Speech/Language Pathology, Mentally

Handicapped, Emotionally

Handicapped or commensurate experience working in the

classroom with autistic

children.

This is a perfect example of writing a description that

includes everyone or anyone. The certification can be in an area not pertinent

to autism. When it states " or commensurate experience working in

the classroom with autistic children " negates the requirement for any type

of certification. What kind of experience working with autistic children is not

stated.

Experience: Five years in

exceptional student education or 3 years working with children with autistic

spectrum disorders and

their families preferred.

I have always thought a preference was not a requirement.

Therefore, under experience there is no requirement.

1. This is a non teaching position and does not require

any teaching experience.

2. Any Aide could qualify for the position and have

commensurate experience regardless of educational background.

3.Actually there is no education requirement.

From: sList

[mailto:sList ] On Behalf Of marva_knight@...

Sent: Saturday, April 24, 2010 12:02 PM

To: sList

Subject: Re: Re: Broward Schools uses ABA

,

The general job description for an autism coach states they must have at least

2 years successful years of teaching children with autism.

One of the many roles that's not stated is that they are the curriculum person

for the cluster classes. That means they must be versed in not only the TEACCH

System but also in general curriculum and discrete trials at some schools.

Coaches also train, model and support teachers. They write IEPs, substitute in

cluster classes, attend required trainings and many, many, other duties as

assigned.

I think it takes more than " the ability to breathe " or even a minimal

knowledge of autism to do this job and be a source of support to teachers,

students and families.

Sent on the Sprint® Now Network from my BlackBerry®

Date: Sat, 24 Apr 2010 09:15:13 -0400

To: <sList >

Subject: RE: Re: Broward Schools uses

ABA

No wonder it is such a mess!! It reminds

me of the saying, " A little bit of knowledge can be harmful. " In

considering the qualifications of the position the outcome may be more like,

" the blind leading the blind " . Would you hire a teacher who

" generally knows " about teaching? So, why hire an autism coach who

may know something about autism and/or behavior? Non of them are required to

know anything about autism or behavior. If I'm wrong about their

qualifications, where am I wrong?

From:

sList [mailto:sList ] On Behalf

Of austintandt@...

Sent: Friday, April 23, 2010 4:19 PM

To: sList

Subject: Re: Re: Broward Schools uses ABA

Autism coaches generally know a lot about behavior and

help teachers to implement strategies for both behavioral issues and academics.

Often, implementing visuals, social stories, etc. is

enough to assist a child in being successful in the classroom.

The coaches also assist in setting up the classrooms

in ways that help the students access their curriculum. They help

with scheduling, collaborate with teachers and agencies like CARD. They

attend a lot of trainings.

From: meandmyraingirl@...

Sent: Friday, April 23, 2010 12:31 PM

To: sList

Subject: Re: Re: Broward Schools uses ABA

They now expect the autism coach to be the 'behavioral specialist.'

Sent on the Sprint® Now Network from my BlackBerry®

From:

Gabi Co

Date:

Fri, 23 Apr 2010 07:59:52 -0700 (PDT)

To:

<sList >

Subject:

Re: Re: Broward Schools uses ABA

so

it's even worse...

The once a week schedule I heard from Everglades, where they do have a

cluster with an Autism coach, but no behavior specialist.

Gabi

From: Heifferon <gary00001msn (DOT) com>

Subject: RE: Re: Broward Schools uses ABA

To: sList@ yahoogroups. com

Date: Thursday, April 22, 2010, 9:57 PM

Or to restate the

question, what Broward school did your child attend where he received ABA

once a week?

From: sList@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:sList

@yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of Ana Esparza

Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2010 3:42 PM

To: sList@ yahoogroups. com

Subject: Re: Re: Broward Schools uses ABA

,

What school does your child attend?

Ana

From: monicagomez1954 <monicagomez1954@ yahoo.com>

To: sList@ yahoogroups. com

Sent: Thu, April 22, 2010 3:02:31 PM

Subject: Re: Broward Schools uses ABA

The ABA will only come once a week in every school, they're not there

everyday for your child and if your child is in crisis..they still will

come one day a week and the school teacher's are not trained for the

crisis, sorry but it's the truth..been there..done that...I had to swtich

my child to a special school where they have ABA everyday.

>

> It is my understanding that Broward Schools now offers ABA in it's

schools. If you think your child needs it, I suggest you ask and make sure

you post your request in the Parent Input Section of your IEP.

>

[Guest guest]

,Does ACE hire the coaches for the county? No. I think you should go to source of the hiring process and ask them what they require or simply as ask to see "their" description of the position. Sent on the Sprint® Now Network from my BlackBerry®Date: Sun, 25 Apr 2010 10:29:59 -0400To: <sList >Subject: RE: Re: Broward Schools uses ABA I think it is important to look at minimum qualificationsfor a position. Ace provides the following qualifications: Education: Floridacertification in Varying Exceptionalities, Speech/Language Pathology, MentallyHandicapped, EmotionallyHandicapped or commensurate experience working in theclassroom with autisticchildren. This is a perfect example of writing a description thatincludes everyone or anyone. The certification can be in an area not pertinentto autism. When it states " or commensurate experience working inthe classroom with autistic children " negates the requirement for any typeof certification. What kind of experience working with autistic children is notstated. Experience: Five years inexceptional student education or 3 years working with children with autisticspectrum disorders andtheir families preferred. I have always thought a preference was not a requirement.Therefore, under experience there is no requirement. 1. This is a non teaching position and does not requireany teaching experience. 2. Any Aide could qualify for the position and havecommensurate experience regardless of educational background.3.Actually there is no education requirement. From: sList [mailto:sList ] On Behalf Of marva_knightSent: Saturday, April 24, 2010 12:02 PMTo: sList Subject: Re: Re: Broward Schools uses ABA ,The general job description for an autism coach states they must have at least2 years successful years of teaching children with autism. One of the many roles that's not stated is that they are the curriculum personfor the cluster classes. That means they must be versed in not only the TEACCHSystem but also in general curriculum and discrete trials at some schools.Coaches also train, model and support teachers. They write IEPs, substitute incluster classes, attend required trainings and many, many, other duties asassigned. I think it takes more than " the ability to breathe " or even a minimalknowledge of autism to do this job and be a source of support to teachers,students and families. Sent on the Sprint® Now Network from my BlackBerry®From: " Heifferon " <gary00001msn>Date: Sat, 24 Apr 2010 09:15:13 -0400To: <sList >Subject: RE: Re: Broward Schools usesABA No wonder it is such a mess!! It remindsme of the saying, " A little bit of knowledge can be harmful. " Inconsidering the qualifications of the position the outcome may be more like, " the blind leading the blind " . Would you hire a teacher who " generally knows " about teaching? So, why hire an autism coach whomay know something about autism and/or behavior? Non of them are required toknow anything about autism or behavior. If I'm wrong about theirqualifications, where am I wrong? From:sList [mailto:sList ] On BehalfOf austintandtbellsouth (DOT) netSent: Friday, April 23, 2010 4:19 PMTo: sList Subject: Re: Re: Broward Schools uses ABA Autism coaches generally know a lot about behavior andhelp teachers to implement strategies for both behavioral issues and academics. Often, implementing visuals, social stories, etc. isenough to assist a child in being successful in the classroom. The coaches also assist in setting up the classroomsin ways that help the students access their curriculum. They helpwith scheduling, collaborate with teachers and agencies like CARD. Theyattend a lot of trainings. From: meandmyraingirlSent: Friday, April 23, 2010 12:31 PMTo: sList Subject: Re: Re: Broward Schools uses ABA They now expect the autism coach to be the 'behavioral specialist.'Sent on the Sprint® Now Network from my BlackBerry®From:Gabi Co <bijcom> Date:Fri, 23 Apr 2010 07:59:52 -0700 (PDT)To:<sList >Subject:Re: Re: Broward Schools uses ABA soit's even worse...The once a week schedule I heard from Everglades, where they do have acluster with an Autism coach, but no behavior specialist.GabiFrom: Heifferon <gary00001msn (DOT) com>Subject: RE: Re: Broward Schools uses ABATo: sList@ yahoogroups. comDate: Thursday, April 22, 2010, 9:57 PM Or to restate thequestion, what Broward school did your child attend where he received ABAonce a week? From: sList@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:sListyahoogroups (DOT) com] On Behalf Of Ana EsparzaSent: Thursday, April 22, 2010 3:42 PMTo: sList@ yahoogroups. comSubject: Re: Re: Broward Schools uses ABA , What school does your child attend? Ana From: monicagomez1954 <monicagomez1954@ yahoo.com>To: sList@ yahoogroups. comSent: Thu, April 22, 2010 3:02:31 PMSubject: Re: Broward Schools uses ABA The ABA will only come once a week in every school, they're not thereeveryday for your child and if your child is in crisis..they still willcome one day a week and the school teacher's are not trained for thecrisis, sorry but it's the truth..been there..done that...I had to swtichmy child to a special school where they have ABA everyday.>> It is my understanding that Broward Schools now offers ABA in it'sschools. If you think your child needs it, I suggest you ask and make sureyou post your request in the Parent Input Section of your IEP.>