Guest guest Report post Posted September 21, 2004 The Zoll unit does just that, and more. It prompts them through the entire CPR sequence in case they forgot. But, as soon as the pads are attached, it skips right to the " analyze " phase, as it should. So itt is feasible, and even being done. =Steve= Meredith Vetterick wrote: >Might be cheaper if you had the first thing the AED tells you to do after >turning it on is to instruct " call 911 now " . Lots of people let machines do >their thinking for them. >Meredith > > > > >> >>Reply-To: >>To: >>Subject: Re: AED >>Date: Mon, 20 Sep 2004 20:52:52 -0500 >> >> >> >>Red wrote: >> >> >> >>>There are many documented cases where fires have started and occupants or >>>employees of the structure delayed notifying the FD because they tried, >>> >>> >>for >> >> >>>up to 20mins, to extinguish the fire themselves, with fire extinguishers >>> >>>This is not a question of " IF " , but " WHEN " . >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> Here's a thought. How about getting the AED manufactures to install >>a something that contacts 911 when the AED is activated (something like >>the OnStar system). If the technology exists to do that with a car in >>the middle of nowhere (as I hear it advertised) then it should work for >>AED's too. Sure it might bump up the price a little, but a couple >>hundred extra would be worth it if it gets EMS called out to a location >>(that could be pinpointed with the system). >> Like I said, just a thought. >> >> Crosby >>EMT-B and Luvin It! >> >> >> >> >> >> Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted September 21, 2004 I agree that AED's should be tested periodically (as is supposed to be done), but not for training. That is what AED trainers are for. As for a alarm going off when it is being tested, a test bypass circuit should not be too hard to install I would think. Something similar to the test switch on blackout lights for buildings. As far as false alarms ago, two models could be developed. One working with sat com technology and another working with the " burglar alarm " type system. That way, if some AED's are set up in a building with security personnel and use the alarm system, they would be notified and could determine if it's a false alarm or not and act appropriately. Others set up in public areas such as parks and whatnot could operate on the sat com technology to activate the come say, when the leads are plugged in. I thought about it doing it when a shock is delivered, but not all rhythms are shockable (as I recall form my last AED class last year), and those cases, the patient still needs help, so having the com activate when the leads are plugged in might be a better idea. In either case, I would rather be rolled out for a false alarm than called too late. In any case Red, keep it coming. You playing the devils advocate is really helping me flesh this out. Thanks Red wrote: >The only problem I can think of with the machine activating when removed >from its station, or when it powers on, is false alarms from testing the >machine. like those fire exits that alarm when opened, no one goes near >them. I think the AED should be popped out every now and then to show ppl >how it works, and for training on it and such. > > > Re: Re: AED > > > > >> Thanks for the compliment (Just don't tell anybody... Might spoil >>my image). Actually, I was thinking satellite comms instead of >>cellular. Cells are great, but sats have better coverage, and while >>cell phones are smaller, sat phones are getting smaller too (my nephew >>just joined the Navy and he was looking into getting one when he >>completes his training and gets a ship assignment). Besides using voice >>comms, a simple trip switch in a mounting where an AED is stored can >>also be used to notify 911 (or building security who can contact 911 and >>get the location pinpointed), just like an alarm that alerts when a >>wired door or window is opened. >> I would like to make some coin off of the idea, but I wouldn't know >>where to start. Can an idea even be copywrited if a person doesn't know >>the mechanics of how to implement it (like I tell my wife, there is a >>reason I work on people and not machines)? >> >>dustdevil31 wrote: >> >> >> >>> Crosby wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>> Here's a thought. How about getting the AED manufactures to >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>install >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>>a something that contacts 911 when the AED is activated (something like >>>>the OnStar system). >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>, that is a stellar idea! In fact, it is so good that I >>>encourage you to get it to market FAST before somebody here scoops you! >>> >>>Red, most cellphones are neither 400mHz nor 800mHz. Most cellphones >>>today are multiband, and operate primarily in the 1.3 - 1.4gHz range, >>>with the old 800mHz band pretty much relegated to a backup for bad >>>signal areas and rural regions. Regardless, satellite technology >>>could also be utilized in the AED's. >>> >>>, you're pretty smart for " just a basic. " >>> >>>Rob >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted September 21, 2004 All AED's test themselves each morning somewhere between 2 - 3 am. If there is a problem, there are indicators on the units to show that they are not in working order. Also most give an audible signal, like smoke detectors with low batteries, to indicate a problem. As an option, most AED providers also sell cabinets for public places. These cabinets have local alarms that sound when either the door is opened, or the unit is removed from the cabinet. A second feature of the cabinet is an option that will send a signal through phone lines to a security/dispatch office to alert someone that the cabinet has been opened. A. Ozenberger BS,LP,CHT Training Specialist III Education Laboratory UTMB - Galveston (409)747-2146 www.utmb.edu/edlab Re: Re: AED I agree that AED's should be tested periodically (as is supposed to be done), but not for training. That is what AED trainers are for. As for a alarm going off when it is being tested, a test bypass circuit should not be too hard to install I would think. Something similar to the test switch on blackout lights for buildings. As far as false alarms ago, two models could be developed. One working with sat com technology and another working with the " burglar alarm " type system. That way, if some AED's are set up in a building with security personnel and use the alarm system, they would be notified and could determine if it's a false alarm or not and act appropriately. Others set up in public areas such as parks and whatnot could operate on the sat com technology to activate the come say, when the leads are plugged in. I thought about it doing it when a shock is delivered, but not all rhythms are shockable (as I recall form my last AED class last year), and those cases, the patient still needs help, so having the com activate when the leads are plugged in might be a better idea. In either case, I would rather be rolled out for a false alarm than called too late. In any case Red, keep it coming. You playing the devils advocate is really helping me flesh this out. Thanks Red wrote: >The only problem I can think of with the machine activating when removed >from its station, or when it powers on, is false alarms from testing the >machine. like those fire exits that alarm when opened, no one goes near >them. I think the AED should be popped out every now and then to show ppl >how it works, and for training on it and such. > > > Re: Re: AED > > > > >> Thanks for the compliment (Just don't tell anybody... Might spoil >>my image). Actually, I was thinking satellite comms instead of >>cellular. Cells are great, but sats have better coverage, and while >>cell phones are smaller, sat phones are getting smaller too (my nephew >>just joined the Navy and he was looking into getting one when he >>completes his training and gets a ship assignment). Besides using voice >>comms, a simple trip switch in a mounting where an AED is stored can >>also be used to notify 911 (or building security who can contact 911 and >>get the location pinpointed), just like an alarm that alerts when a >>wired door or window is opened. >> I would like to make some coin off of the idea, but I wouldn't know >>where to start. Can an idea even be copywrited if a person doesn't know >>the mechanics of how to implement it (like I tell my wife, there is a >>reason I work on people and not machines)? >> >>dustdevil31 wrote: >> >> >> >>> Crosby wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>> Here's a thought. How about getting the AED manufactures to >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>install >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>>a something that contacts 911 when the AED is activated (something like >>>>the OnStar system). >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>, that is a stellar idea! In fact, it is so good that I >>>encourage you to get it to market FAST before somebody here scoops you! >>> >>>Red, most cellphones are neither 400mHz nor 800mHz. Most cellphones >>>today are multiband, and operate primarily in the 1.3 - 1.4gHz range, >>>with the old 800mHz band pretty much relegated to a backup for bad >>>signal areas and rural regions. Regardless, satellite technology >>>could also be utilized in the AED's. >>> >>>, you're pretty smart for " just a basic. " >>> >>>Rob >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted September 21, 2004 All AED's test themselves each morning somewhere between 2 - 3 am. If there is a problem, there are indicators on the units to show that they are not in working order. Also most give an audible signal, like smoke detectors with low batteries, to indicate a problem. As an option, most AED providers also sell cabinets for public places. These cabinets have local alarms that sound when either the door is opened, or the unit is removed from the cabinet. A second feature of the cabinet is an option that will send a signal through phone lines to a security/dispatch office to alert someone that the cabinet has been opened. A. Ozenberger BS,LP,CHT Training Specialist III Education Laboratory UTMB - Galveston (409)747-2146 www.utmb.edu/edlab Re: Re: AED I agree that AED's should be tested periodically (as is supposed to be done), but not for training. That is what AED trainers are for. As for a alarm going off when it is being tested, a test bypass circuit should not be too hard to install I would think. Something similar to the test switch on blackout lights for buildings. As far as false alarms ago, two models could be developed. One working with sat com technology and another working with the " burglar alarm " type system. That way, if some AED's are set up in a building with security personnel and use the alarm system, they would be notified and could determine if it's a false alarm or not and act appropriately. Others set up in public areas such as parks and whatnot could operate on the sat com technology to activate the come say, when the leads are plugged in. I thought about it doing it when a shock is delivered, but not all rhythms are shockable (as I recall form my last AED class last year), and those cases, the patient still needs help, so having the com activate when the leads are plugged in might be a better idea. In either case, I would rather be rolled out for a false alarm than called too late. In any case Red, keep it coming. You playing the devils advocate is really helping me flesh this out. Thanks Red wrote: >The only problem I can think of with the machine activating when removed >from its station, or when it powers on, is false alarms from testing the >machine. like those fire exits that alarm when opened, no one goes near >them. I think the AED should be popped out every now and then to show ppl >how it works, and for training on it and such. > > > Re: Re: AED > > > > >> Thanks for the compliment (Just don't tell anybody... Might spoil >>my image). Actually, I was thinking satellite comms instead of >>cellular. Cells are great, but sats have better coverage, and while >>cell phones are smaller, sat phones are getting smaller too (my nephew >>just joined the Navy and he was looking into getting one when he >>completes his training and gets a ship assignment). Besides using voice >>comms, a simple trip switch in a mounting where an AED is stored can >>also be used to notify 911 (or building security who can contact 911 and >>get the location pinpointed), just like an alarm that alerts when a >>wired door or window is opened. >> I would like to make some coin off of the idea, but I wouldn't know >>where to start. Can an idea even be copywrited if a person doesn't know >>the mechanics of how to implement it (like I tell my wife, there is a >>reason I work on people and not machines)? >> >>dustdevil31 wrote: >> >> >> >>> Crosby wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>> Here's a thought. How about getting the AED manufactures to >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>install >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>>a something that contacts 911 when the AED is activated (something like >>>>the OnStar system). >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>, that is a stellar idea! In fact, it is so good that I >>>encourage you to get it to market FAST before somebody here scoops you! >>> >>>Red, most cellphones are neither 400mHz nor 800mHz. Most cellphones >>>today are multiband, and operate primarily in the 1.3 - 1.4gHz range, >>>with the old 800mHz band pretty much relegated to a backup for bad >>>signal areas and rural regions. Regardless, satellite technology >>>could also be utilized in the AED's. >>> >>>, you're pretty smart for " just a basic. " >>> >>>Rob >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted September 21, 2004 All AED's test themselves each morning somewhere between 2 - 3 am. If there is a problem, there are indicators on the units to show that they are not in working order. Also most give an audible signal, like smoke detectors with low batteries, to indicate a problem. As an option, most AED providers also sell cabinets for public places. These cabinets have local alarms that sound when either the door is opened, or the unit is removed from the cabinet. A second feature of the cabinet is an option that will send a signal through phone lines to a security/dispatch office to alert someone that the cabinet has been opened. A. Ozenberger BS,LP,CHT Training Specialist III Education Laboratory UTMB - Galveston (409)747-2146 www.utmb.edu/edlab Re: Re: AED I agree that AED's should be tested periodically (as is supposed to be done), but not for training. That is what AED trainers are for. As for a alarm going off when it is being tested, a test bypass circuit should not be too hard to install I would think. Something similar to the test switch on blackout lights for buildings. As far as false alarms ago, two models could be developed. One working with sat com technology and another working with the " burglar alarm " type system. That way, if some AED's are set up in a building with security personnel and use the alarm system, they would be notified and could determine if it's a false alarm or not and act appropriately. Others set up in public areas such as parks and whatnot could operate on the sat com technology to activate the come say, when the leads are plugged in. I thought about it doing it when a shock is delivered, but not all rhythms are shockable (as I recall form my last AED class last year), and those cases, the patient still needs help, so having the com activate when the leads are plugged in might be a better idea. In either case, I would rather be rolled out for a false alarm than called too late. In any case Red, keep it coming. You playing the devils advocate is really helping me flesh this out. Thanks Red wrote: >The only problem I can think of with the machine activating when removed >from its station, or when it powers on, is false alarms from testing the >machine. like those fire exits that alarm when opened, no one goes near >them. I think the AED should be popped out every now and then to show ppl >how it works, and for training on it and such. > > > Re: Re: AED > > > > >> Thanks for the compliment (Just don't tell anybody... Might spoil >>my image). Actually, I was thinking satellite comms instead of >>cellular. Cells are great, but sats have better coverage, and while >>cell phones are smaller, sat phones are getting smaller too (my nephew >>just joined the Navy and he was looking into getting one when he >>completes his training and gets a ship assignment). Besides using voice >>comms, a simple trip switch in a mounting where an AED is stored can >>also be used to notify 911 (or building security who can contact 911 and >>get the location pinpointed), just like an alarm that alerts when a >>wired door or window is opened. >> I would like to make some coin off of the idea, but I wouldn't know >>where to start. Can an idea even be copywrited if a person doesn't know >>the mechanics of how to implement it (like I tell my wife, there is a >>reason I work on people and not machines)? >> >>dustdevil31 wrote: >> >> >> >>> Crosby wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>> Here's a thought. How about getting the AED manufactures to >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>install >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>>a something that contacts 911 when the AED is activated (something like >>>>the OnStar system). >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>, that is a stellar idea! In fact, it is so good that I >>>encourage you to get it to market FAST before somebody here scoops you! >>> >>>Red, most cellphones are neither 400mHz nor 800mHz. Most cellphones >>>today are multiband, and operate primarily in the 1.3 - 1.4gHz range, >>>with the old 800mHz band pretty much relegated to a backup for bad >>>signal areas and rural regions. Regardless, satellite technology >>>could also be utilized in the AED's. >>> >>>, you're pretty smart for " just a basic. " >>> >>>Rob >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted September 21, 2004 " Ozenberger, A. " <kaozenbe@u...> wrote: > most AED providers also sell cabinets for public places. These > cabinets have local alarms that sound when either the door is > opened, or the unit is removed from the cabinet. Those cabinets are great, as they discourage people from randomly dicking around with the unit, yet they offer a key-bypass for authorized personnel to access the unit for training and maintenence without tripping the alarm. When installing AED's in public buildings, I have instructed the personnel there to always treat that cabinet alarm as a signal to call 911 immediately. If it goes off, you either have a medical emergency or a felony theft in progress. Either way, you need 911. The problem is, many businesses who do not have the general public coming through skip buying a cabinet because they cost over $500 dollars each. Rob Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted September 21, 2004 " Ozenberger, A. " <kaozenbe@u...> wrote: > most AED providers also sell cabinets for public places. These > cabinets have local alarms that sound when either the door is > opened, or the unit is removed from the cabinet. Those cabinets are great, as they discourage people from randomly dicking around with the unit, yet they offer a key-bypass for authorized personnel to access the unit for training and maintenence without tripping the alarm. When installing AED's in public buildings, I have instructed the personnel there to always treat that cabinet alarm as a signal to call 911 immediately. If it goes off, you either have a medical emergency or a felony theft in progress. Either way, you need 911. The problem is, many businesses who do not have the general public coming through skip buying a cabinet because they cost over $500 dollars each. Rob Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted September 21, 2004 " Ozenberger, A. " <kaozenbe@u...> wrote: > most AED providers also sell cabinets for public places. These > cabinets have local alarms that sound when either the door is > opened, or the unit is removed from the cabinet. Those cabinets are great, as they discourage people from randomly dicking around with the unit, yet they offer a key-bypass for authorized personnel to access the unit for training and maintenence without tripping the alarm. When installing AED's in public buildings, I have instructed the personnel there to always treat that cabinet alarm as a signal to call 911 immediately. If it goes off, you either have a medical emergency or a felony theft in progress. Either way, you need 911. The problem is, many businesses who do not have the general public coming through skip buying a cabinet because they cost over $500 dollars each. Rob Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted September 21, 2004 yeah, calling when the leads plugged in is a good idea, that way the unit could turned on for testing and such, and the key by-pass for the cabinet is also a good idea. in the cases of AEDs in public places, and a local alarm going off, a strobe would probably be helpful as well, like on fire alarms, but it only going off at the station, a strobe on the cabinet or above it, high enough to be seen easily. so in malls or other large places crowded with alot of people, it would give us direction if we had vague directions or no escort. and in large multistory buildings, an panel next to the fire alarm panel that would show the location of the cabinet that had been activated, just like the fire alarm panel. we're sure gettin somewhere with this idea! Re: Re: AED >> >> >> >> >>> Thanks for the compliment (Just don't tell anybody... Might spoil >>>my image). Actually, I was thinking satellite comms instead of >>>cellular. Cells are great, but sats have better coverage, and while >>>cell phones are smaller, sat phones are getting smaller too (my nephew >>>just joined the Navy and he was looking into getting one when he >>>completes his training and gets a ship assignment). Besides using voice >>>comms, a simple trip switch in a mounting where an AED is stored can >>>also be used to notify 911 (or building security who can contact 911 and >>>get the location pinpointed), just like an alarm that alerts when a >>>wired door or window is opened. >>> I would like to make some coin off of the idea, but I wouldn't know >>>where to start. Can an idea even be copywrited if a person doesn't know >>>the mechanics of how to implement it (like I tell my wife, there is a >>>reason I work on people and not machines)? >>> >>>dustdevil31 wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>>> Crosby wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> Here's a thought. How about getting the AED manufactures to >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>install >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>a something that contacts 911 when the AED is activated (something like >>>>>the OnStar system). >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>, that is a stellar idea! In fact, it is so good that I >>>>encourage you to get it to market FAST before somebody here scoops you! >>>> >>>>Red, most cellphones are neither 400mHz nor 800mHz. Most cellphones >>>>today are multiband, and operate primarily in the 1.3 - 1.4gHz range, >>>>with the old 800mHz band pretty much relegated to a backup for bad >>>>signal areas and rural regions. Regardless, satellite technology >>>>could also be utilized in the AED's. >>>> >>>>, you're pretty smart for " just a basic. " >>>> >>>>Rob >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted September 21, 2004 yeah, calling when the leads plugged in is a good idea, that way the unit could turned on for testing and such, and the key by-pass for the cabinet is also a good idea. in the cases of AEDs in public places, and a local alarm going off, a strobe would probably be helpful as well, like on fire alarms, but it only going off at the station, a strobe on the cabinet or above it, high enough to be seen easily. so in malls or other large places crowded with alot of people, it would give us direction if we had vague directions or no escort. and in large multistory buildings, an panel next to the fire alarm panel that would show the location of the cabinet that had been activated, just like the fire alarm panel. we're sure gettin somewhere with this idea! Re: Re: AED >> >> >> >> >>> Thanks for the compliment (Just don't tell anybody... Might spoil >>>my image). Actually, I was thinking satellite comms instead of >>>cellular. Cells are great, but sats have better coverage, and while >>>cell phones are smaller, sat phones are getting smaller too (my nephew >>>just joined the Navy and he was looking into getting one when he >>>completes his training and gets a ship assignment). Besides using voice >>>comms, a simple trip switch in a mounting where an AED is stored can >>>also be used to notify 911 (or building security who can contact 911 and >>>get the location pinpointed), just like an alarm that alerts when a >>>wired door or window is opened. >>> I would like to make some coin off of the idea, but I wouldn't know >>>where to start. Can an idea even be copywrited if a person doesn't know >>>the mechanics of how to implement it (like I tell my wife, there is a >>>reason I work on people and not machines)? >>> >>>dustdevil31 wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>>> Crosby wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> Here's a thought. How about getting the AED manufactures to >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>install >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>a something that contacts 911 when the AED is activated (something like >>>>>the OnStar system). >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>, that is a stellar idea! In fact, it is so good that I >>>>encourage you to get it to market FAST before somebody here scoops you! >>>> >>>>Red, most cellphones are neither 400mHz nor 800mHz. Most cellphones >>>>today are multiband, and operate primarily in the 1.3 - 1.4gHz range, >>>>with the old 800mHz band pretty much relegated to a backup for bad >>>>signal areas and rural regions. Regardless, satellite technology >>>>could also be utilized in the AED's. >>>> >>>>, you're pretty smart for " just a basic. " >>>> >>>>Rob >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted September 21, 2004 yeah, calling when the leads plugged in is a good idea, that way the unit could turned on for testing and such, and the key by-pass for the cabinet is also a good idea. in the cases of AEDs in public places, and a local alarm going off, a strobe would probably be helpful as well, like on fire alarms, but it only going off at the station, a strobe on the cabinet or above it, high enough to be seen easily. so in malls or other large places crowded with alot of people, it would give us direction if we had vague directions or no escort. and in large multistory buildings, an panel next to the fire alarm panel that would show the location of the cabinet that had been activated, just like the fire alarm panel. we're sure gettin somewhere with this idea! Re: Re: AED >> >> >> >> >>> Thanks for the compliment (Just don't tell anybody... Might spoil >>>my image). Actually, I was thinking satellite comms instead of >>>cellular. Cells are great, but sats have better coverage, and while >>>cell phones are smaller, sat phones are getting smaller too (my nephew >>>just joined the Navy and he was looking into getting one when he >>>completes his training and gets a ship assignment). Besides using voice >>>comms, a simple trip switch in a mounting where an AED is stored can >>>also be used to notify 911 (or building security who can contact 911 and >>>get the location pinpointed), just like an alarm that alerts when a >>>wired door or window is opened. >>> I would like to make some coin off of the idea, but I wouldn't know >>>where to start. Can an idea even be copywrited if a person doesn't know >>>the mechanics of how to implement it (like I tell my wife, there is a >>>reason I work on people and not machines)? >>> >>>dustdevil31 wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>>> Crosby wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> Here's a thought. How about getting the AED manufactures to >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>install >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>a something that contacts 911 when the AED is activated (something like >>>>>the OnStar system). >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>, that is a stellar idea! In fact, it is so good that I >>>>encourage you to get it to market FAST before somebody here scoops you! >>>> >>>>Red, most cellphones are neither 400mHz nor 800mHz. Most cellphones >>>>today are multiband, and operate primarily in the 1.3 - 1.4gHz range, >>>>with the old 800mHz band pretty much relegated to a backup for bad >>>>signal areas and rural regions. Regardless, satellite technology >>>>could also be utilized in the AED's. >>>> >>>>, you're pretty smart for " just a basic. " >>>> >>>>Rob >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted September 21, 2004 You really need to find a patent lawyer. Almost all of them have technical expertise (it's required for the Patent Bar exam) and will be able to guide you through the process. Most charge for the initial consultation, but it's money well spent in the long run. -Wes Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted September 21, 2004 You really need to find a patent lawyer. Almost all of them have technical expertise (it's required for the Patent Bar exam) and will be able to guide you through the process. Most charge for the initial consultation, but it's money well spent in the long run. -Wes Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted September 21, 2004 You really need to find a patent lawyer. Almost all of them have technical expertise (it's required for the Patent Bar exam) and will be able to guide you through the process. Most charge for the initial consultation, but it's money well spent in the long run. -Wes Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted September 21, 2004 I don't think the strobe thing would be good for an indicator of where the unit is being used at, only where it came from unless the area in question has a lot of them at regular intervals. Since cell phones can be located by GPS, these units could be as well even if voice coms are impractical for some reason. I recently saw a news story (on channel 5 news in San ) about cell phones that parents can give to their kids that have tracking devices in them so the parents will know where their kids are at (or at least their phones). If its affordable for such use, then the same tech can be applied here for not much money in an AED even if it doesn't have sat com ability. I had forgotten about that story till just now. I wonder if that route would be more practical. It could also be used to track stolen units. I know they sound like an unlikely theft item, but some of the things I've seen stolen over the years where I work have definitely shown me that some gene pools run a might shallow. Anyway, we sure are getting somewhere here, but the question is what do we do with the ideas? Personal financial considerations aside (which might sound strange, but those considerations don't have much hold on me... I must need a drink ;-} ), how does one get the manufacturers to take these ideas seriously enough to look into implementing them? Red wrote: >yeah, calling when the leads plugged in is a good idea, that way the unit >could turned on for testing and such, and the key by-pass for the cabinet is >also a good idea. > >in the cases of AEDs in public places, and a local alarm going off, a strobe >would probably be helpful as well, like on fire alarms, but it only going >off at the station, a strobe on the cabinet or above it, high enough to be >seen easily. so in malls or other large places crowded with alot of people, >it would give us direction if we had vague directions or no escort. > >and in large multistory buildings, an panel next to the fire alarm panel >that would show the location of the cabinet that had been activated, just >like the fire alarm panel. > >we're sure gettin somewhere with this idea! > Re: Re: AED >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>> Thanks for the compliment (Just don't tell anybody... Might spoil >>>>my image). Actually, I was thinking satellite comms instead of >>>>cellular. Cells are great, but sats have better coverage, and while >>>>cell phones are smaller, sat phones are getting smaller too (my nephew >>>>just joined the Navy and he was looking into getting one when he >>>>completes his training and gets a ship assignment). Besides using voice >>>>comms, a simple trip switch in a mounting where an AED is stored can >>>>also be used to notify 911 (or building security who can contact 911 and >>>>get the location pinpointed), just like an alarm that alerts when a >>>>wired door or window is opened. >>>> I would like to make some coin off of the idea, but I wouldn't know >>>>where to start. Can an idea even be copywrited if a person doesn't know >>>>the mechanics of how to implement it (like I tell my wife, there is a >>>>reason I work on people and not machines)? >>>> >>>>dustdevil31 wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> Crosby wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> Here's a thought. How about getting the AED manufactures to >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>install >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>a something that contacts 911 when the AED is activated (something like >>>>>>the OnStar system). >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>, that is a stellar idea! In fact, it is so good that I >>>>>encourage you to get it to market FAST before somebody here scoops you! >>>>> >>>>>Red, most cellphones are neither 400mHz nor 800mHz. Most cellphones >>>>>today are multiband, and operate primarily in the 1.3 - 1.4gHz range, >>>>>with the old 800mHz band pretty much relegated to a backup for bad >>>>>signal areas and rural regions. Regardless, satellite technology >>>>>could also be utilized in the AED's. >>>>> >>>>>, you're pretty smart for " just a basic. " >>>>> >>>>>Rob >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted September 21, 2004 I don't think the strobe thing would be good for an indicator of where the unit is being used at, only where it came from unless the area in question has a lot of them at regular intervals. Since cell phones can be located by GPS, these units could be as well even if voice coms are impractical for some reason. I recently saw a news story (on channel 5 news in San ) about cell phones that parents can give to their kids that have tracking devices in them so the parents will know where their kids are at (or at least their phones). If its affordable for such use, then the same tech can be applied here for not much money in an AED even if it doesn't have sat com ability. I had forgotten about that story till just now. I wonder if that route would be more practical. It could also be used to track stolen units. I know they sound like an unlikely theft item, but some of the things I've seen stolen over the years where I work have definitely shown me that some gene pools run a might shallow. Anyway, we sure are getting somewhere here, but the question is what do we do with the ideas? Personal financial considerations aside (which might sound strange, but those considerations don't have much hold on me... I must need a drink ;-} ), how does one get the manufacturers to take these ideas seriously enough to look into implementing them? Red wrote: >yeah, calling when the leads plugged in is a good idea, that way the unit >could turned on for testing and such, and the key by-pass for the cabinet is >also a good idea. > >in the cases of AEDs in public places, and a local alarm going off, a strobe >would probably be helpful as well, like on fire alarms, but it only going >off at the station, a strobe on the cabinet or above it, high enough to be >seen easily. so in malls or other large places crowded with alot of people, >it would give us direction if we had vague directions or no escort. > >and in large multistory buildings, an panel next to the fire alarm panel >that would show the location of the cabinet that had been activated, just >like the fire alarm panel. > >we're sure gettin somewhere with this idea! > Re: Re: AED >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>> Thanks for the compliment (Just don't tell anybody... Might spoil >>>>my image). Actually, I was thinking satellite comms instead of >>>>cellular. Cells are great, but sats have better coverage, and while >>>>cell phones are smaller, sat phones are getting smaller too (my nephew >>>>just joined the Navy and he was looking into getting one when he >>>>completes his training and gets a ship assignment). Besides using voice >>>>comms, a simple trip switch in a mounting where an AED is stored can >>>>also be used to notify 911 (or building security who can contact 911 and >>>>get the location pinpointed), just like an alarm that alerts when a >>>>wired door or window is opened. >>>> I would like to make some coin off of the idea, but I wouldn't know >>>>where to start. Can an idea even be copywrited if a person doesn't know >>>>the mechanics of how to implement it (like I tell my wife, there is a >>>>reason I work on people and not machines)? >>>> >>>>dustdevil31 wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> Crosby wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> Here's a thought. How about getting the AED manufactures to >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>install >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>a something that contacts 911 when the AED is activated (something like >>>>>>the OnStar system). >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>, that is a stellar idea! In fact, it is so good that I >>>>>encourage you to get it to market FAST before somebody here scoops you! >>>>> >>>>>Red, most cellphones are neither 400mHz nor 800mHz. Most cellphones >>>>>today are multiband, and operate primarily in the 1.3 - 1.4gHz range, >>>>>with the old 800mHz band pretty much relegated to a backup for bad >>>>>signal areas and rural regions. Regardless, satellite technology >>>>>could also be utilized in the AED's. >>>>> >>>>>, you're pretty smart for " just a basic. " >>>>> >>>>>Rob >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted September 21, 2004 I don't think the strobe thing would be good for an indicator of where the unit is being used at, only where it came from unless the area in question has a lot of them at regular intervals. Since cell phones can be located by GPS, these units could be as well even if voice coms are impractical for some reason. I recently saw a news story (on channel 5 news in San ) about cell phones that parents can give to their kids that have tracking devices in them so the parents will know where their kids are at (or at least their phones). If its affordable for such use, then the same tech can be applied here for not much money in an AED even if it doesn't have sat com ability. I had forgotten about that story till just now. I wonder if that route would be more practical. It could also be used to track stolen units. I know they sound like an unlikely theft item, but some of the things I've seen stolen over the years where I work have definitely shown me that some gene pools run a might shallow. Anyway, we sure are getting somewhere here, but the question is what do we do with the ideas? Personal financial considerations aside (which might sound strange, but those considerations don't have much hold on me... I must need a drink ;-} ), how does one get the manufacturers to take these ideas seriously enough to look into implementing them? Red wrote: >yeah, calling when the leads plugged in is a good idea, that way the unit >could turned on for testing and such, and the key by-pass for the cabinet is >also a good idea. > >in the cases of AEDs in public places, and a local alarm going off, a strobe >would probably be helpful as well, like on fire alarms, but it only going >off at the station, a strobe on the cabinet or above it, high enough to be >seen easily. so in malls or other large places crowded with alot of people, >it would give us direction if we had vague directions or no escort. > >and in large multistory buildings, an panel next to the fire alarm panel >that would show the location of the cabinet that had been activated, just >like the fire alarm panel. > >we're sure gettin somewhere with this idea! > Re: Re: AED >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>> Thanks for the compliment (Just don't tell anybody... Might spoil >>>>my image). Actually, I was thinking satellite comms instead of >>>>cellular. Cells are great, but sats have better coverage, and while >>>>cell phones are smaller, sat phones are getting smaller too (my nephew >>>>just joined the Navy and he was looking into getting one when he >>>>completes his training and gets a ship assignment). Besides using voice >>>>comms, a simple trip switch in a mounting where an AED is stored can >>>>also be used to notify 911 (or building security who can contact 911 and >>>>get the location pinpointed), just like an alarm that alerts when a >>>>wired door or window is opened. >>>> I would like to make some coin off of the idea, but I wouldn't know >>>>where to start. Can an idea even be copywrited if a person doesn't know >>>>the mechanics of how to implement it (like I tell my wife, there is a >>>>reason I work on people and not machines)? >>>> >>>>dustdevil31 wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> Crosby wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> Here's a thought. How about getting the AED manufactures to >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>install >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>a something that contacts 911 when the AED is activated (something like >>>>>>the OnStar system). >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>, that is a stellar idea! In fact, it is so good that I >>>>>encourage you to get it to market FAST before somebody here scoops you! >>>>> >>>>>Red, most cellphones are neither 400mHz nor 800mHz. Most cellphones >>>>>today are multiband, and operate primarily in the 1.3 - 1.4gHz range, >>>>>with the old 800mHz band pretty much relegated to a backup for bad >>>>>signal areas and rural regions. Regardless, satellite technology >>>>>could also be utilized in the AED's. >>>>> >>>>>, you're pretty smart for " just a basic. " >>>>> >>>>>Rob >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted September 21, 2004 yeah! or at the least, tied into the buildings network, and could locate from there. Re: Re: AED >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> Thanks for the compliment (Just don't tell anybody... Might spoil >>>>>my image). Actually, I was thinking satellite comms instead of >>>>>cellular. Cells are great, but sats have better coverage, and while >>>>>cell phones are smaller, sat phones are getting smaller too (my nephew >>>>>just joined the Navy and he was looking into getting one when he >>>>>completes his training and gets a ship assignment). Besides using voice >>>>>comms, a simple trip switch in a mounting where an AED is stored can >>>>>also be used to notify 911 (or building security who can contact 911 >>>>>and >>>>>get the location pinpointed), just like an alarm that alerts when a >>>>>wired door or window is opened. >>>>> I would like to make some coin off of the idea, but I wouldn't know >>>>>where to start. Can an idea even be copywrited if a person doesn't know >>>>>the mechanics of how to implement it (like I tell my wife, there is a >>>>>reason I work on people and not machines)? >>>>> >>>>>dustdevil31 wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> Crosby wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> Here's a thought. How about getting the AED manufactures to >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>install >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>a something that contacts 911 when the AED is activated (something >>>>>>>like >>>>>>>the OnStar system). >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>, that is a stellar idea! In fact, it is so good that I >>>>>>encourage you to get it to market FAST before somebody here scoops >>>>>>you! >>>>>> >>>>>>Red, most cellphones are neither 400mHz nor 800mHz. Most cellphones >>>>>>today are multiband, and operate primarily in the 1.3 - 1.4gHz range, >>>>>>with the old 800mHz band pretty much relegated to a backup for bad >>>>>>signal areas and rural regions. Regardless, satellite technology >>>>>>could also be utilized in the AED's. >>>>>> >>>>>>, you're pretty smart for " just a basic. " >>>>>> >>>>>>Rob >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted September 21, 2004 yeah! or at the least, tied into the buildings network, and could locate from there. Re: Re: AED >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> Thanks for the compliment (Just don't tell anybody... Might spoil >>>>>my image). Actually, I was thinking satellite comms instead of >>>>>cellular. Cells are great, but sats have better coverage, and while >>>>>cell phones are smaller, sat phones are getting smaller too (my nephew >>>>>just joined the Navy and he was looking into getting one when he >>>>>completes his training and gets a ship assignment). Besides using voice >>>>>comms, a simple trip switch in a mounting where an AED is stored can >>>>>also be used to notify 911 (or building security who can contact 911 >>>>>and >>>>>get the location pinpointed), just like an alarm that alerts when a >>>>>wired door or window is opened. >>>>> I would like to make some coin off of the idea, but I wouldn't know >>>>>where to start. Can an idea even be copywrited if a person doesn't know >>>>>the mechanics of how to implement it (like I tell my wife, there is a >>>>>reason I work on people and not machines)? >>>>> >>>>>dustdevil31 wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> Crosby wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> Here's a thought. How about getting the AED manufactures to >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>install >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>a something that contacts 911 when the AED is activated (something >>>>>>>like >>>>>>>the OnStar system). >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>, that is a stellar idea! In fact, it is so good that I >>>>>>encourage you to get it to market FAST before somebody here scoops >>>>>>you! >>>>>> >>>>>>Red, most cellphones are neither 400mHz nor 800mHz. Most cellphones >>>>>>today are multiband, and operate primarily in the 1.3 - 1.4gHz range, >>>>>>with the old 800mHz band pretty much relegated to a backup for bad >>>>>>signal areas and rural regions. Regardless, satellite technology >>>>>>could also be utilized in the AED's. >>>>>> >>>>>>, you're pretty smart for " just a basic. " >>>>>> >>>>>>Rob >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted September 21, 2004 yeah! or at the least, tied into the buildings network, and could locate from there. Re: Re: AED >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> Thanks for the compliment (Just don't tell anybody... Might spoil >>>>>my image). Actually, I was thinking satellite comms instead of >>>>>cellular. Cells are great, but sats have better coverage, and while >>>>>cell phones are smaller, sat phones are getting smaller too (my nephew >>>>>just joined the Navy and he was looking into getting one when he >>>>>completes his training and gets a ship assignment). Besides using voice >>>>>comms, a simple trip switch in a mounting where an AED is stored can >>>>>also be used to notify 911 (or building security who can contact 911 >>>>>and >>>>>get the location pinpointed), just like an alarm that alerts when a >>>>>wired door or window is opened. >>>>> I would like to make some coin off of the idea, but I wouldn't know >>>>>where to start. Can an idea even be copywrited if a person doesn't know >>>>>the mechanics of how to implement it (like I tell my wife, there is a >>>>>reason I work on people and not machines)? >>>>> >>>>>dustdevil31 wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> Crosby wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> Here's a thought. How about getting the AED manufactures to >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>install >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>a something that contacts 911 when the AED is activated (something >>>>>>>like >>>>>>>the OnStar system). >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>, that is a stellar idea! In fact, it is so good that I >>>>>>encourage you to get it to market FAST before somebody here scoops >>>>>>you! >>>>>> >>>>>>Red, most cellphones are neither 400mHz nor 800mHz. Most cellphones >>>>>>today are multiband, and operate primarily in the 1.3 - 1.4gHz range, >>>>>>with the old 800mHz band pretty much relegated to a backup for bad >>>>>>signal areas and rural regions. Regardless, satellite technology >>>>>>could also be utilized in the AED's. >>>>>> >>>>>>, you're pretty smart for " just a basic. " >>>>>> >>>>>>Rob >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted September 21, 2004 Take a look at. http://www.legalzoom.com/index2.html Re: Re: AED > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>>>Thanks for the compliment (Just don't tell anybody... Might spoil > >>>>>>my image). Actually, I was thinking satellite comms instead of > >>>>>>cellular. Cells are great, but sats have better coverage, and while > >>>>>>cell phones are smaller, sat phones are getting smaller too (my nephew > >>>>>>just joined the Navy and he was looking into getting one when he > >>>>>>completes his training and gets a ship assignment). Besides using > >>>>>>voice > >>>>>>comms, a simple trip switch in a mounting where an AED is stored can > >>>>>>also be used to notify 911 (or building security who can contact 911 > >>>>>>and > >>>>>>get the location pinpointed), just like an alarm that alerts when a > >>>>>>wired door or window is opened. > >>>>>>I would like to make some coin off of the idea, but I wouldn't know > >>>>>>where to start. Can an idea even be copywrited if a person doesn't > >>>>>>know > >>>>>>the mechanics of how to implement it (like I tell my wife, there is a > >>>>>>reason I work on people and not machines)? > >>>>>> > >>>>>>dustdevil31 wrote: > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>>> Crosby wrote: > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>Here's a thought. How about getting the AED manufactures to > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>install > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>a something that contacts 911 when the AED is activated (something > >>>>>>>>like > >>>>>>>>the OnStar system). > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>, that is a stellar idea! In fact, it is so good that I > >>>>>>>encourage you to get it to market FAST before somebody here scoops > >>>>>>>you! > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>Red, most cellphones are neither 400mHz nor 800mHz. Most cellphones > >>>>>>>today are multiband, and operate primarily in the 1.3 - 1.4gHz range, > >>>>>>>with the old 800mHz band pretty much relegated to a backup for bad > >>>>>>>signal areas and rural regions. Regardless, satellite technology > >>>>>>>could also be utilized in the AED's. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>, you're pretty smart for " just a basic. " > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>Rob > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted September 21, 2004 Take a look at. http://www.legalzoom.com/index2.html Re: Re: AED > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>>>Thanks for the compliment (Just don't tell anybody... Might spoil > >>>>>>my image). Actually, I was thinking satellite comms instead of > >>>>>>cellular. Cells are great, but sats have better coverage, and while > >>>>>>cell phones are smaller, sat phones are getting smaller too (my nephew > >>>>>>just joined the Navy and he was looking into getting one when he > >>>>>>completes his training and gets a ship assignment). Besides using > >>>>>>voice > >>>>>>comms, a simple trip switch in a mounting where an AED is stored can > >>>>>>also be used to notify 911 (or building security who can contact 911 > >>>>>>and > >>>>>>get the location pinpointed), just like an alarm that alerts when a > >>>>>>wired door or window is opened. > >>>>>>I would like to make some coin off of the idea, but I wouldn't know > >>>>>>where to start. Can an idea even be copywrited if a person doesn't > >>>>>>know > >>>>>>the mechanics of how to implement it (like I tell my wife, there is a > >>>>>>reason I work on people and not machines)? > >>>>>> > >>>>>>dustdevil31 wrote: > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>>> Crosby wrote: > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>Here's a thought. How about getting the AED manufactures to > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>install > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>a something that contacts 911 when the AED is activated (something > >>>>>>>>like > >>>>>>>>the OnStar system). > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>, that is a stellar idea! In fact, it is so good that I > >>>>>>>encourage you to get it to market FAST before somebody here scoops > >>>>>>>you! > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>Red, most cellphones are neither 400mHz nor 800mHz. Most cellphones > >>>>>>>today are multiband, and operate primarily in the 1.3 - 1.4gHz range, > >>>>>>>with the old 800mHz band pretty much relegated to a backup for bad > >>>>>>>signal areas and rural regions. Regardless, satellite technology > >>>>>>>could also be utilized in the AED's. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>, you're pretty smart for " just a basic. " > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>Rob > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted September 21, 2004 Take a look at. http://www.legalzoom.com/index2.html Re: Re: AED > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>>>Thanks for the compliment (Just don't tell anybody... Might spoil > >>>>>>my image). Actually, I was thinking satellite comms instead of > >>>>>>cellular. Cells are great, but sats have better coverage, and while > >>>>>>cell phones are smaller, sat phones are getting smaller too (my nephew > >>>>>>just joined the Navy and he was looking into getting one when he > >>>>>>completes his training and gets a ship assignment). Besides using > >>>>>>voice > >>>>>>comms, a simple trip switch in a mounting where an AED is stored can > >>>>>>also be used to notify 911 (or building security who can contact 911 > >>>>>>and > >>>>>>get the location pinpointed), just like an alarm that alerts when a > >>>>>>wired door or window is opened. > >>>>>>I would like to make some coin off of the idea, but I wouldn't know > >>>>>>where to start. Can an idea even be copywrited if a person doesn't > >>>>>>know > >>>>>>the mechanics of how to implement it (like I tell my wife, there is a > >>>>>>reason I work on people and not machines)? > >>>>>> > >>>>>>dustdevil31 wrote: > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>>> Crosby wrote: > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>Here's a thought. How about getting the AED manufactures to > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>install > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>a something that contacts 911 when the AED is activated (something > >>>>>>>>like > >>>>>>>>the OnStar system). > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>, that is a stellar idea! In fact, it is so good that I > >>>>>>>encourage you to get it to market FAST before somebody here scoops > >>>>>>>you! > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>Red, most cellphones are neither 400mHz nor 800mHz. Most cellphones > >>>>>>>today are multiband, and operate primarily in the 1.3 - 1.4gHz range, > >>>>>>>with the old 800mHz band pretty much relegated to a backup for bad > >>>>>>>signal areas and rural regions. Regardless, satellite technology > >>>>>>>could also be utilized in the AED's. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>, you're pretty smart for " just a basic. " > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>Rob > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
