Guest guest Report post Posted September 20, 2004 Red wrote: >There are many documented cases where fires have started and occupants or >employees of the structure delayed notifying the FD because they tried, for >up to 20mins, to extinguish the fire themselves, with fire extinguishers > >This is not a question of " IF " , but " WHEN " . > > > Here's a thought. How about getting the AED manufactures to install a something that contacts 911 when the AED is activated (something like the OnStar system). If the technology exists to do that with a car in the middle of nowhere (as I hear it advertised) then it should work for AED's too. Sure it might bump up the price a little, but a couple hundred extra would be worth it if it gets EMS called out to a location (that could be pinpointed with the system). Like I said, just a thought. Crosby EMT-B and Luvin It! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted September 20, 2004 Red wrote: >There are many documented cases where fires have started and occupants or >employees of the structure delayed notifying the FD because they tried, for >up to 20mins, to extinguish the fire themselves, with fire extinguishers > >This is not a question of " IF " , but " WHEN " . > > > Here's a thought. How about getting the AED manufactures to install a something that contacts 911 when the AED is activated (something like the OnStar system). If the technology exists to do that with a car in the middle of nowhere (as I hear it advertised) then it should work for AED's too. Sure it might bump up the price a little, but a couple hundred extra would be worth it if it gets EMS called out to a location (that could be pinpointed with the system). Like I said, just a thought. Crosby EMT-B and Luvin It! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted September 20, 2004 Red wrote: >There are many documented cases where fires have started and occupants or >employees of the structure delayed notifying the FD because they tried, for >up to 20mins, to extinguish the fire themselves, with fire extinguishers > >This is not a question of " IF " , but " WHEN " . > > > Here's a thought. How about getting the AED manufactures to install a something that contacts 911 when the AED is activated (something like the OnStar system). If the technology exists to do that with a car in the middle of nowhere (as I hear it advertised) then it should work for AED's too. Sure it might bump up the price a little, but a couple hundred extra would be worth it if it gets EMS called out to a location (that could be pinpointed with the system). Like I said, just a thought. Crosby EMT-B and Luvin It! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted September 20, 2004 First consider the size of the antenna assuming either 1/5 (recommended), 1/4, or full wavelength. Most cell phones use 400Mhz, some use 800Mhz. Assuming 800Mhz gives a wavelength of approx 35cm. 7cm, a little under 3 inches in total wire length which can be wrapped to make it shorter. Double this length for 400Mhz. So antenna size is not a problem. Now consider the power output that a radio in a car can produce and that it is outside, which is significantly different that a handheld device. Next consider that most AEDs will be used in a building. Think about cell phones in buildings with concrete, add to it other cell phones and 802.11B and G wireless lans. The cell phone/radio would probably needs to generate 5+ watts. There is still no guarantee that it can communicate to a base station. Is it possible yes but there is a lot of engineering and most likely would not work properly. Ed Walsh LP BSEE Re: AED > > > Red wrote: > > >There are many documented cases where fires have started and occupants or > >employees of the structure delayed notifying the FD because they tried, for > >up to 20mins, to extinguish the fire themselves, with fire extinguishers > > > >This is not a question of " IF " , but " WHEN " . > > > > > > > > Here's a thought. How about getting the AED manufactures to install > a something that contacts 911 when the AED is activated (something like > the OnStar system). If the technology exists to do that with a car in > the middle of nowhere (as I hear it advertised) then it should work for > AED's too. Sure it might bump up the price a little, but a couple > hundred extra would be worth it if it gets EMS called out to a location > (that could be pinpointed with the system). > Like I said, just a thought. > > Crosby > EMT-B and Luvin It! > > > > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted September 20, 2004 First consider the size of the antenna assuming either 1/5 (recommended), 1/4, or full wavelength. Most cell phones use 400Mhz, some use 800Mhz. Assuming 800Mhz gives a wavelength of approx 35cm. 7cm, a little under 3 inches in total wire length which can be wrapped to make it shorter. Double this length for 400Mhz. So antenna size is not a problem. Now consider the power output that a radio in a car can produce and that it is outside, which is significantly different that a handheld device. Next consider that most AEDs will be used in a building. Think about cell phones in buildings with concrete, add to it other cell phones and 802.11B and G wireless lans. The cell phone/radio would probably needs to generate 5+ watts. There is still no guarantee that it can communicate to a base station. Is it possible yes but there is a lot of engineering and most likely would not work properly. Ed Walsh LP BSEE Re: AED > > > Red wrote: > > >There are many documented cases where fires have started and occupants or > >employees of the structure delayed notifying the FD because they tried, for > >up to 20mins, to extinguish the fire themselves, with fire extinguishers > > > >This is not a question of " IF " , but " WHEN " . > > > > > > > > Here's a thought. How about getting the AED manufactures to install > a something that contacts 911 when the AED is activated (something like > the OnStar system). If the technology exists to do that with a car in > the middle of nowhere (as I hear it advertised) then it should work for > AED's too. Sure it might bump up the price a little, but a couple > hundred extra would be worth it if it gets EMS called out to a location > (that could be pinpointed with the system). > Like I said, just a thought. > > Crosby > EMT-B and Luvin It! > > > > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted September 20, 2004 First consider the size of the antenna assuming either 1/5 (recommended), 1/4, or full wavelength. Most cell phones use 400Mhz, some use 800Mhz. Assuming 800Mhz gives a wavelength of approx 35cm. 7cm, a little under 3 inches in total wire length which can be wrapped to make it shorter. Double this length for 400Mhz. So antenna size is not a problem. Now consider the power output that a radio in a car can produce and that it is outside, which is significantly different that a handheld device. Next consider that most AEDs will be used in a building. Think about cell phones in buildings with concrete, add to it other cell phones and 802.11B and G wireless lans. The cell phone/radio would probably needs to generate 5+ watts. There is still no guarantee that it can communicate to a base station. Is it possible yes but there is a lot of engineering and most likely would not work properly. Ed Walsh LP BSEE Re: AED > > > Red wrote: > > >There are many documented cases where fires have started and occupants or > >employees of the structure delayed notifying the FD because they tried, for > >up to 20mins, to extinguish the fire themselves, with fire extinguishers > > > >This is not a question of " IF " , but " WHEN " . > > > > > > > > Here's a thought. How about getting the AED manufactures to install > a something that contacts 911 when the AED is activated (something like > the OnStar system). If the technology exists to do that with a car in > the middle of nowhere (as I hear it advertised) then it should work for > AED's too. Sure it might bump up the price a little, but a couple > hundred extra would be worth it if it gets EMS called out to a location > (that could be pinpointed with the system). > Like I said, just a thought. > > Crosby > EMT-B and Luvin It! > > > > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted September 20, 2004 that is actually a VERY good idea. a " call 911 button " , and it would do it automatically if a shock was delivered. Re: AED > > > Red wrote: > >>There are many documented cases where fires have started and occupants or >>employees of the structure delayed notifying the FD because they tried, >>for >>up to 20mins, to extinguish the fire themselves, with fire extinguishers >> >>This is not a question of " IF " , but " WHEN " . >> >> >> > > Here's a thought. How about getting the AED manufactures to install > a something that contacts 911 when the AED is activated (something like > the OnStar system). If the technology exists to do that with a car in > the middle of nowhere (as I hear it advertised) then it should work for > AED's too. Sure it might bump up the price a little, but a couple > hundred extra would be worth it if it gets EMS called out to a location > (that could be pinpointed with the system). > Like I said, just a thought. > > Crosby > EMT-B and Luvin It! > > > > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted September 20, 2004 that is actually a VERY good idea. a " call 911 button " , and it would do it automatically if a shock was delivered. Re: AED > > > Red wrote: > >>There are many documented cases where fires have started and occupants or >>employees of the structure delayed notifying the FD because they tried, >>for >>up to 20mins, to extinguish the fire themselves, with fire extinguishers >> >>This is not a question of " IF " , but " WHEN " . >> >> >> > > Here's a thought. How about getting the AED manufactures to install > a something that contacts 911 when the AED is activated (something like > the OnStar system). If the technology exists to do that with a car in > the middle of nowhere (as I hear it advertised) then it should work for > AED's too. Sure it might bump up the price a little, but a couple > hundred extra would be worth it if it gets EMS called out to a location > (that could be pinpointed with the system). > Like I said, just a thought. > > Crosby > EMT-B and Luvin It! > > > > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted September 20, 2004 that is actually a VERY good idea. a " call 911 button " , and it would do it automatically if a shock was delivered. Re: AED > > > Red wrote: > >>There are many documented cases where fires have started and occupants or >>employees of the structure delayed notifying the FD because they tried, >>for >>up to 20mins, to extinguish the fire themselves, with fire extinguishers >> >>This is not a question of " IF " , but " WHEN " . >> >> >> > > Here's a thought. How about getting the AED manufactures to install > a something that contacts 911 when the AED is activated (something like > the OnStar system). If the technology exists to do that with a car in > the middle of nowhere (as I hear it advertised) then it should work for > AED's too. Sure it might bump up the price a little, but a couple > hundred extra would be worth it if it gets EMS called out to a location > (that could be pinpointed with the system). > Like I said, just a thought. > > Crosby > EMT-B and Luvin It! > > > > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted September 20, 2004 Crosby wrote: > > Here's a thought. How about getting the AED manufactures to install > a something that contacts 911 when the AED is activated (something like > the OnStar system). , that is a stellar idea! In fact, it is so good that I encourage you to get it to market FAST before somebody here scoops you! Red, most cellphones are neither 400mHz nor 800mHz. Most cellphones today are multiband, and operate primarily in the 1.3 - 1.4gHz range, with the old 800mHz band pretty much relegated to a backup for bad signal areas and rural regions. Regardless, satellite technology could also be utilized in the AED's. , you're pretty smart for " just a basic. " Rob Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted September 20, 2004 Crosby wrote: > > Here's a thought. How about getting the AED manufactures to install > a something that contacts 911 when the AED is activated (something like > the OnStar system). , that is a stellar idea! In fact, it is so good that I encourage you to get it to market FAST before somebody here scoops you! Red, most cellphones are neither 400mHz nor 800mHz. Most cellphones today are multiband, and operate primarily in the 1.3 - 1.4gHz range, with the old 800mHz band pretty much relegated to a backup for bad signal areas and rural regions. Regardless, satellite technology could also be utilized in the AED's. , you're pretty smart for " just a basic. " Rob Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted September 20, 2004 Crosby wrote: > > Here's a thought. How about getting the AED manufactures to install > a something that contacts 911 when the AED is activated (something like > the OnStar system). , that is a stellar idea! In fact, it is so good that I encourage you to get it to market FAST before somebody here scoops you! Red, most cellphones are neither 400mHz nor 800mHz. Most cellphones today are multiband, and operate primarily in the 1.3 - 1.4gHz range, with the old 800mHz band pretty much relegated to a backup for bad signal areas and rural regions. Regardless, satellite technology could also be utilized in the AED's. , you're pretty smart for " just a basic. " Rob Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted September 20, 2004 i wasent the one who got into details about the frequency of the cell phones. thanks for the compliment though Re: AED > Crosby wrote: >> >> Here's a thought. How about getting the AED manufactures to > install >> a something that contacts 911 when the AED is activated (something like >> the OnStar system). > > , that is a stellar idea! In fact, it is so good that I > encourage you to get it to market FAST before somebody here scoops you! > > Red, most cellphones are neither 400mHz nor 800mHz. Most cellphones > today are multiband, and operate primarily in the 1.3 - 1.4gHz range, > with the old 800mHz band pretty much relegated to a backup for bad > signal areas and rural regions. Regardless, satellite technology > could also be utilized in the AED's. > > , you're pretty smart for " just a basic. " > > Rob > > > > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted September 20, 2004 i wasent the one who got into details about the frequency of the cell phones. thanks for the compliment though Re: AED > Crosby wrote: >> >> Here's a thought. How about getting the AED manufactures to > install >> a something that contacts 911 when the AED is activated (something like >> the OnStar system). > > , that is a stellar idea! In fact, it is so good that I > encourage you to get it to market FAST before somebody here scoops you! > > Red, most cellphones are neither 400mHz nor 800mHz. Most cellphones > today are multiband, and operate primarily in the 1.3 - 1.4gHz range, > with the old 800mHz band pretty much relegated to a backup for bad > signal areas and rural regions. Regardless, satellite technology > could also be utilized in the AED's. > > , you're pretty smart for " just a basic. " > > Rob > > > > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted September 20, 2004 i wasent the one who got into details about the frequency of the cell phones. thanks for the compliment though Re: AED > Crosby wrote: >> >> Here's a thought. How about getting the AED manufactures to > install >> a something that contacts 911 when the AED is activated (something like >> the OnStar system). > > , that is a stellar idea! In fact, it is so good that I > encourage you to get it to market FAST before somebody here scoops you! > > Red, most cellphones are neither 400mHz nor 800mHz. Most cellphones > today are multiband, and operate primarily in the 1.3 - 1.4gHz range, > with the old 800mHz band pretty much relegated to a backup for bad > signal areas and rural regions. Regardless, satellite technology > could also be utilized in the AED's. > > , you're pretty smart for " just a basic. " > > Rob > > > > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted September 21, 2004 Might be cheaper if you had the first thing the AED tells you to do after turning it on is to instruct " call 911 now " . Lots of people let machines do their thinking for them. Meredith > >Reply-To: >To: >Subject: Re: AED >Date: Mon, 20 Sep 2004 20:52:52 -0500 > > > >Red wrote: > > >There are many documented cases where fires have started and occupants or > >employees of the structure delayed notifying the FD because they tried, >for > >up to 20mins, to extinguish the fire themselves, with fire extinguishers > > > >This is not a question of " IF " , but " WHEN " . > > > > > > > > Here's a thought. How about getting the AED manufactures to install >a something that contacts 911 when the AED is activated (something like >the OnStar system). If the technology exists to do that with a car in >the middle of nowhere (as I hear it advertised) then it should work for >AED's too. Sure it might bump up the price a little, but a couple >hundred extra would be worth it if it gets EMS called out to a location >(that could be pinpointed with the system). > Like I said, just a thought. > > Crosby >EMT-B and Luvin It! > > > > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted September 21, 2004 Might be cheaper if you had the first thing the AED tells you to do after turning it on is to instruct " call 911 now " . Lots of people let machines do their thinking for them. Meredith > >Reply-To: >To: >Subject: Re: AED >Date: Mon, 20 Sep 2004 20:52:52 -0500 > > > >Red wrote: > > >There are many documented cases where fires have started and occupants or > >employees of the structure delayed notifying the FD because they tried, >for > >up to 20mins, to extinguish the fire themselves, with fire extinguishers > > > >This is not a question of " IF " , but " WHEN " . > > > > > > > > Here's a thought. How about getting the AED manufactures to install >a something that contacts 911 when the AED is activated (something like >the OnStar system). If the technology exists to do that with a car in >the middle of nowhere (as I hear it advertised) then it should work for >AED's too. Sure it might bump up the price a little, but a couple >hundred extra would be worth it if it gets EMS called out to a location >(that could be pinpointed with the system). > Like I said, just a thought. > > Crosby >EMT-B and Luvin It! > > > > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted September 21, 2004 Might be cheaper if you had the first thing the AED tells you to do after turning it on is to instruct " call 911 now " . Lots of people let machines do their thinking for them. Meredith > >Reply-To: >To: >Subject: Re: AED >Date: Mon, 20 Sep 2004 20:52:52 -0500 > > > >Red wrote: > > >There are many documented cases where fires have started and occupants or > >employees of the structure delayed notifying the FD because they tried, >for > >up to 20mins, to extinguish the fire themselves, with fire extinguishers > > > >This is not a question of " IF " , but " WHEN " . > > > > > > > > Here's a thought. How about getting the AED manufactures to install >a something that contacts 911 when the AED is activated (something like >the OnStar system). If the technology exists to do that with a car in >the middle of nowhere (as I hear it advertised) then it should work for >AED's too. Sure it might bump up the price a little, but a couple >hundred extra would be worth it if it gets EMS called out to a location >(that could be pinpointed with the system). > Like I said, just a thought. > > Crosby >EMT-B and Luvin It! > > > > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted September 21, 2004 Thanks for the compliment (Just don't tell anybody... Might spoil my image). Actually, I was thinking satellite comms instead of cellular. Cells are great, but sats have better coverage, and while cell phones are smaller, sat phones are getting smaller too (my nephew just joined the Navy and he was looking into getting one when he completes his training and gets a ship assignment). Besides using voice comms, a simple trip switch in a mounting where an AED is stored can also be used to notify 911 (or building security who can contact 911 and get the location pinpointed), just like an alarm that alerts when a wired door or window is opened. I would like to make some coin off of the idea, but I wouldn't know where to start. Can an idea even be copywrited if a person doesn't know the mechanics of how to implement it (like I tell my wife, there is a reason I work on people and not machines)? dustdevil31 wrote: > Crosby wrote: > > >> Here's a thought. How about getting the AED manufactures to >> >> >install > > >>a something that contacts 911 when the AED is activated (something like >>the OnStar system). >> >> > >, that is a stellar idea! In fact, it is so good that I >encourage you to get it to market FAST before somebody here scoops you! > >Red, most cellphones are neither 400mHz nor 800mHz. Most cellphones >today are multiband, and operate primarily in the 1.3 - 1.4gHz range, >with the old 800mHz band pretty much relegated to a backup for bad >signal areas and rural regions. Regardless, satellite technology >could also be utilized in the AED's. > >, you're pretty smart for " just a basic. " > >Rob > > > > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted September 21, 2004 Thanks for the compliment (Just don't tell anybody... Might spoil my image). Actually, I was thinking satellite comms instead of cellular. Cells are great, but sats have better coverage, and while cell phones are smaller, sat phones are getting smaller too (my nephew just joined the Navy and he was looking into getting one when he completes his training and gets a ship assignment). Besides using voice comms, a simple trip switch in a mounting where an AED is stored can also be used to notify 911 (or building security who can contact 911 and get the location pinpointed), just like an alarm that alerts when a wired door or window is opened. I would like to make some coin off of the idea, but I wouldn't know where to start. Can an idea even be copywrited if a person doesn't know the mechanics of how to implement it (like I tell my wife, there is a reason I work on people and not machines)? dustdevil31 wrote: > Crosby wrote: > > >> Here's a thought. How about getting the AED manufactures to >> >> >install > > >>a something that contacts 911 when the AED is activated (something like >>the OnStar system). >> >> > >, that is a stellar idea! In fact, it is so good that I >encourage you to get it to market FAST before somebody here scoops you! > >Red, most cellphones are neither 400mHz nor 800mHz. Most cellphones >today are multiband, and operate primarily in the 1.3 - 1.4gHz range, >with the old 800mHz band pretty much relegated to a backup for bad >signal areas and rural regions. Regardless, satellite technology >could also be utilized in the AED's. > >, you're pretty smart for " just a basic. " > >Rob > > > > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted September 21, 2004 Thanks for the compliment (Just don't tell anybody... Might spoil my image). Actually, I was thinking satellite comms instead of cellular. Cells are great, but sats have better coverage, and while cell phones are smaller, sat phones are getting smaller too (my nephew just joined the Navy and he was looking into getting one when he completes his training and gets a ship assignment). Besides using voice comms, a simple trip switch in a mounting where an AED is stored can also be used to notify 911 (or building security who can contact 911 and get the location pinpointed), just like an alarm that alerts when a wired door or window is opened. I would like to make some coin off of the idea, but I wouldn't know where to start. Can an idea even be copywrited if a person doesn't know the mechanics of how to implement it (like I tell my wife, there is a reason I work on people and not machines)? dustdevil31 wrote: > Crosby wrote: > > >> Here's a thought. How about getting the AED manufactures to >> >> >install > > >>a something that contacts 911 when the AED is activated (something like >>the OnStar system). >> >> > >, that is a stellar idea! In fact, it is so good that I >encourage you to get it to market FAST before somebody here scoops you! > >Red, most cellphones are neither 400mHz nor 800mHz. Most cellphones >today are multiband, and operate primarily in the 1.3 - 1.4gHz range, >with the old 800mHz band pretty much relegated to a backup for bad >signal areas and rural regions. Regardless, satellite technology >could also be utilized in the AED's. > >, you're pretty smart for " just a basic. " > >Rob > > > > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted September 21, 2004 The Zoll AED follows the AHA Chain of Survival which directs the user to activate EMS. That's the only AED I've seen with this process. Lee Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted September 21, 2004 Most all of the newer models are directing the user to call for help, then to remove the clothing from the chest, as the first two steps. The new models from Cardiac Science and Physio Control are examples. A. Ozenberger BS,LP,CHT Training Specialist III Education Laboratory UTMB - Galveston (409)747-2146 www.utmb.edu/edlab AED The Zoll AED follows the AHA Chain of Survival which directs the user to activate EMS. That's the only AED I've seen with this process. Lee Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted September 21, 2004 The Zoll unit does just that, and more. It prompts them through the entire CPR sequence in case they forgot. But, as soon as the pads are attached, it skips right to the " analyze " phase, as it should. So itt is feasible, and even being done. =Steve= Meredith Vetterick wrote: >Might be cheaper if you had the first thing the AED tells you to do after >turning it on is to instruct " call 911 now " . Lots of people let machines do >their thinking for them. >Meredith > > > > >> >>Reply-To: >>To: >>Subject: Re: AED >>Date: Mon, 20 Sep 2004 20:52:52 -0500 >> >> >> >>Red wrote: >> >> >> >>>There are many documented cases where fires have started and occupants or >>>employees of the structure delayed notifying the FD because they tried, >>> >>> >>for >> >> >>>up to 20mins, to extinguish the fire themselves, with fire extinguishers >>> >>>This is not a question of " IF " , but " WHEN " . >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> Here's a thought. How about getting the AED manufactures to install >>a something that contacts 911 when the AED is activated (something like >>the OnStar system). If the technology exists to do that with a car in >>the middle of nowhere (as I hear it advertised) then it should work for >>AED's too. Sure it might bump up the price a little, but a couple >>hundred extra would be worth it if it gets EMS called out to a location >>(that could be pinpointed with the system). >> Like I said, just a thought. >> >> Crosby >>EMT-B and Luvin It! >> >> >> >> >> >> Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted September 21, 2004 The Zoll unit does just that, and more. It prompts them through the entire CPR sequence in case they forgot. But, as soon as the pads are attached, it skips right to the " analyze " phase, as it should. So itt is feasible, and even being done. =Steve= Meredith Vetterick wrote: >Might be cheaper if you had the first thing the AED tells you to do after >turning it on is to instruct " call 911 now " . Lots of people let machines do >their thinking for them. >Meredith > > > > >> >>Reply-To: >>To: >>Subject: Re: AED >>Date: Mon, 20 Sep 2004 20:52:52 -0500 >> >> >> >>Red wrote: >> >> >> >>>There are many documented cases where fires have started and occupants or >>>employees of the structure delayed notifying the FD because they tried, >>> >>> >>for >> >> >>>up to 20mins, to extinguish the fire themselves, with fire extinguishers >>> >>>This is not a question of " IF " , but " WHEN " . >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> Here's a thought. How about getting the AED manufactures to install >>a something that contacts 911 when the AED is activated (something like >>the OnStar system). If the technology exists to do that with a car in >>the middle of nowhere (as I hear it advertised) then it should work for >>AED's too. Sure it might bump up the price a little, but a couple >>hundred extra would be worth it if it gets EMS called out to a location >>(that could be pinpointed with the system). >> Like I said, just a thought. >> >> Crosby >>EMT-B and Luvin It! >> >> >> >> >> >> Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
