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The Zoll unit does just that, and more. It prompts them through the

entire CPR sequence in case they forgot. But, as soon as the pads are

attached, it skips right to the " analyze " phase, as it should.

So itt is feasible, and even being done.

=Steve=

Meredith Vetterick wrote:

>Might be cheaper if you had the first thing the AED tells you to do after

>turning it on is to instruct " call 911 now " . Lots of people let machines do

>their thinking for them.

>Meredith

>

>

>

>

>>

>>Reply-To:

>>To:

>>Subject: Re: AED

>>Date: Mon, 20 Sep 2004 20:52:52 -0500

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>>

>>

>>Red wrote:

>>

>>

>>

>>>There are many documented cases where fires have started and occupants or

>>>employees of the structure delayed notifying the FD because they tried,

>>>

>>>

>>for

>>

>>

>>>up to 20mins, to extinguish the fire themselves, with fire extinguishers

>>>

>>>This is not a question of " IF " , but " WHEN " .

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>

>> Here's a thought. How about getting the AED manufactures to install

>>a something that contacts 911 when the AED is activated (something like

>>the OnStar system). If the technology exists to do that with a car in

>>the middle of nowhere (as I hear it advertised) then it should work for

>>AED's too. Sure it might bump up the price a little, but a couple

>>hundred extra would be worth it if it gets EMS called out to a location

>>(that could be pinpointed with the system).

>> Like I said, just a thought.

>>

>> Crosby

>>EMT-B and Luvin It!

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I agree that AED's should be tested periodically (as is supposed to

be done), but not for training. That is what AED trainers are for. As

for a alarm going off when it is being tested, a test bypass circuit

should not be too hard to install I would think. Something similar to

the test switch on blackout lights for buildings. As far as false

alarms ago, two models could be developed. One working with sat com

technology and another working with the " burglar alarm " type system.

That way, if some AED's are set up in a building with security personnel

and use the alarm system, they would be notified and could determine if

it's a false alarm or not and act appropriately. Others set up in

public areas such as parks and whatnot could operate on the sat com

technology to activate the come say, when the leads are plugged in. I

thought about it doing it when a shock is delivered, but not all rhythms

are shockable (as I recall form my last AED class last year), and those

cases, the patient still needs help, so having the com activate when the

leads are plugged in might be a better idea. In either case, I would

rather be rolled out for a false alarm than called too late.

In any case Red, keep it coming. You playing the devils advocate is

really helping me flesh this out.

Thanks

Red wrote:

>The only problem I can think of with the machine activating when removed

>from its station, or when it powers on, is false alarms from testing the

>machine. like those fire exits that alarm when opened, no one goes near

>them. I think the AED should be popped out every now and then to show ppl

>how it works, and for training on it and such.

>

>

> Re: Re: AED

>

>

>

>

>> Thanks for the compliment (Just don't tell anybody... Might spoil

>>my image). Actually, I was thinking satellite comms instead of

>>cellular. Cells are great, but sats have better coverage, and while

>>cell phones are smaller, sat phones are getting smaller too (my nephew

>>just joined the Navy and he was looking into getting one when he

>>completes his training and gets a ship assignment). Besides using voice

>>comms, a simple trip switch in a mounting where an AED is stored can

>>also be used to notify 911 (or building security who can contact 911 and

>>get the location pinpointed), just like an alarm that alerts when a

>>wired door or window is opened.

>> I would like to make some coin off of the idea, but I wouldn't know

>>where to start. Can an idea even be copywrited if a person doesn't know

>>the mechanics of how to implement it (like I tell my wife, there is a

>>reason I work on people and not machines)?

>>

>>dustdevil31 wrote:

>>

>>

>>

>>> Crosby wrote:

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>> Here's a thought. How about getting the AED manufactures to

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>

>>>install

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>>a something that contacts 911 when the AED is activated (something like

>>>>the OnStar system).

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>

>>>, that is a stellar idea! In fact, it is so good that I

>>>encourage you to get it to market FAST before somebody here scoops you!

>>>

>>>Red, most cellphones are neither 400mHz nor 800mHz. Most cellphones

>>>today are multiband, and operate primarily in the 1.3 - 1.4gHz range,

>>>with the old 800mHz band pretty much relegated to a backup for bad

>>>signal areas and rural regions. Regardless, satellite technology

>>>could also be utilized in the AED's.

>>>

>>>, you're pretty smart for " just a basic. "

>>>

>>>Rob ;)

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>

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All AED's test themselves each morning somewhere between 2 - 3 am. If there is

a problem, there are indicators on the units to show that they are not in

working order. Also most give an audible signal, like smoke detectors with low

batteries, to indicate a problem. As an option, most AED providers also sell

cabinets for public places. These cabinets have local alarms that sound when

either the door is opened, or the unit is removed from the cabinet. A second

feature of the cabinet is an option that will send a signal through phone lines

to a security/dispatch office to alert someone that the cabinet has been opened.

A. Ozenberger BS,LP,CHT

Training Specialist III

Education Laboratory

UTMB - Galveston

(409)747-2146

www.utmb.edu/edlab

Re: Re: AED

I agree that AED's should be tested periodically (as is supposed to

be done), but not for training. That is what AED trainers are for. As

for a alarm going off when it is being tested, a test bypass circuit

should not be too hard to install I would think. Something similar to

the test switch on blackout lights for buildings. As far as false

alarms ago, two models could be developed. One working with sat com

technology and another working with the " burglar alarm " type system.

That way, if some AED's are set up in a building with security personnel

and use the alarm system, they would be notified and could determine if

it's a false alarm or not and act appropriately. Others set up in

public areas such as parks and whatnot could operate on the sat com

technology to activate the come say, when the leads are plugged in. I

thought about it doing it when a shock is delivered, but not all rhythms

are shockable (as I recall form my last AED class last year), and those

cases, the patient still needs help, so having the com activate when the

leads are plugged in might be a better idea. In either case, I would

rather be rolled out for a false alarm than called too late.

In any case Red, keep it coming. You playing the devils advocate is

really helping me flesh this out.

Thanks

Red wrote:

>The only problem I can think of with the machine activating when removed

>from its station, or when it powers on, is false alarms from testing the

>machine. like those fire exits that alarm when opened, no one goes near

>them. I think the AED should be popped out every now and then to show ppl

>how it works, and for training on it and such.

>

>

> Re: Re: AED

>

>

>

>

>> Thanks for the compliment (Just don't tell anybody... Might spoil

>>my image). Actually, I was thinking satellite comms instead of

>>cellular. Cells are great, but sats have better coverage, and while

>>cell phones are smaller, sat phones are getting smaller too (my nephew

>>just joined the Navy and he was looking into getting one when he

>>completes his training and gets a ship assignment). Besides using voice

>>comms, a simple trip switch in a mounting where an AED is stored can

>>also be used to notify 911 (or building security who can contact 911 and

>>get the location pinpointed), just like an alarm that alerts when a

>>wired door or window is opened.

>> I would like to make some coin off of the idea, but I wouldn't know

>>where to start. Can an idea even be copywrited if a person doesn't know

>>the mechanics of how to implement it (like I tell my wife, there is a

>>reason I work on people and not machines)?

>>

>>dustdevil31 wrote:

>>

>>

>>

>>> Crosby wrote:

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>> Here's a thought. How about getting the AED manufactures to

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>

>>>install

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>>a something that contacts 911 when the AED is activated (something like

>>>>the OnStar system).

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>

>>>, that is a stellar idea! In fact, it is so good that I

>>>encourage you to get it to market FAST before somebody here scoops you!

>>>

>>>Red, most cellphones are neither 400mHz nor 800mHz. Most cellphones

>>>today are multiband, and operate primarily in the 1.3 - 1.4gHz range,

>>>with the old 800mHz band pretty much relegated to a backup for bad

>>>signal areas and rural regions. Regardless, satellite technology

>>>could also be utilized in the AED's.

>>>

>>>, you're pretty smart for " just a basic. "

>>>

>>>Rob ;)

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>

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All AED's test themselves each morning somewhere between 2 - 3 am. If there is

a problem, there are indicators on the units to show that they are not in

working order. Also most give an audible signal, like smoke detectors with low

batteries, to indicate a problem. As an option, most AED providers also sell

cabinets for public places. These cabinets have local alarms that sound when

either the door is opened, or the unit is removed from the cabinet. A second

feature of the cabinet is an option that will send a signal through phone lines

to a security/dispatch office to alert someone that the cabinet has been opened.

A. Ozenberger BS,LP,CHT

Training Specialist III

Education Laboratory

UTMB - Galveston

(409)747-2146

www.utmb.edu/edlab

Re: Re: AED

I agree that AED's should be tested periodically (as is supposed to

be done), but not for training. That is what AED trainers are for. As

for a alarm going off when it is being tested, a test bypass circuit

should not be too hard to install I would think. Something similar to

the test switch on blackout lights for buildings. As far as false

alarms ago, two models could be developed. One working with sat com

technology and another working with the " burglar alarm " type system.

That way, if some AED's are set up in a building with security personnel

and use the alarm system, they would be notified and could determine if

it's a false alarm or not and act appropriately. Others set up in

public areas such as parks and whatnot could operate on the sat com

technology to activate the come say, when the leads are plugged in. I

thought about it doing it when a shock is delivered, but not all rhythms

are shockable (as I recall form my last AED class last year), and those

cases, the patient still needs help, so having the com activate when the

leads are plugged in might be a better idea. In either case, I would

rather be rolled out for a false alarm than called too late.

In any case Red, keep it coming. You playing the devils advocate is

really helping me flesh this out.

Thanks

Red wrote:

>The only problem I can think of with the machine activating when removed

>from its station, or when it powers on, is false alarms from testing the

>machine. like those fire exits that alarm when opened, no one goes near

>them. I think the AED should be popped out every now and then to show ppl

>how it works, and for training on it and such.

>

>

> Re: Re: AED

>

>

>

>

>> Thanks for the compliment (Just don't tell anybody... Might spoil

>>my image). Actually, I was thinking satellite comms instead of

>>cellular. Cells are great, but sats have better coverage, and while

>>cell phones are smaller, sat phones are getting smaller too (my nephew

>>just joined the Navy and he was looking into getting one when he

>>completes his training and gets a ship assignment). Besides using voice

>>comms, a simple trip switch in a mounting where an AED is stored can

>>also be used to notify 911 (or building security who can contact 911 and

>>get the location pinpointed), just like an alarm that alerts when a

>>wired door or window is opened.

>> I would like to make some coin off of the idea, but I wouldn't know

>>where to start. Can an idea even be copywrited if a person doesn't know

>>the mechanics of how to implement it (like I tell my wife, there is a

>>reason I work on people and not machines)?

>>

>>dustdevil31 wrote:

>>

>>

>>

>>> Crosby wrote:

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>> Here's a thought. How about getting the AED manufactures to

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>

>>>install

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>>a something that contacts 911 when the AED is activated (something like

>>>>the OnStar system).

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>

>>>, that is a stellar idea! In fact, it is so good that I

>>>encourage you to get it to market FAST before somebody here scoops you!

>>>

>>>Red, most cellphones are neither 400mHz nor 800mHz. Most cellphones

>>>today are multiband, and operate primarily in the 1.3 - 1.4gHz range,

>>>with the old 800mHz band pretty much relegated to a backup for bad

>>>signal areas and rural regions. Regardless, satellite technology

>>>could also be utilized in the AED's.

>>>

>>>, you're pretty smart for " just a basic. "

>>>

>>>Rob ;)

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>

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All AED's test themselves each morning somewhere between 2 - 3 am. If there is

a problem, there are indicators on the units to show that they are not in

working order. Also most give an audible signal, like smoke detectors with low

batteries, to indicate a problem. As an option, most AED providers also sell

cabinets for public places. These cabinets have local alarms that sound when

either the door is opened, or the unit is removed from the cabinet. A second

feature of the cabinet is an option that will send a signal through phone lines

to a security/dispatch office to alert someone that the cabinet has been opened.

A. Ozenberger BS,LP,CHT

Training Specialist III

Education Laboratory

UTMB - Galveston

(409)747-2146

www.utmb.edu/edlab

Re: Re: AED

I agree that AED's should be tested periodically (as is supposed to

be done), but not for training. That is what AED trainers are for. As

for a alarm going off when it is being tested, a test bypass circuit

should not be too hard to install I would think. Something similar to

the test switch on blackout lights for buildings. As far as false

alarms ago, two models could be developed. One working with sat com

technology and another working with the " burglar alarm " type system.

That way, if some AED's are set up in a building with security personnel

and use the alarm system, they would be notified and could determine if

it's a false alarm or not and act appropriately. Others set up in

public areas such as parks and whatnot could operate on the sat com

technology to activate the come say, when the leads are plugged in. I

thought about it doing it when a shock is delivered, but not all rhythms

are shockable (as I recall form my last AED class last year), and those

cases, the patient still needs help, so having the com activate when the

leads are plugged in might be a better idea. In either case, I would

rather be rolled out for a false alarm than called too late.

In any case Red, keep it coming. You playing the devils advocate is

really helping me flesh this out.

Thanks

Red wrote:

>The only problem I can think of with the machine activating when removed

>from its station, or when it powers on, is false alarms from testing the

>machine. like those fire exits that alarm when opened, no one goes near

>them. I think the AED should be popped out every now and then to show ppl

>how it works, and for training on it and such.

>

>

> Re: Re: AED

>

>

>

>

>> Thanks for the compliment (Just don't tell anybody... Might spoil

>>my image). Actually, I was thinking satellite comms instead of

>>cellular. Cells are great, but sats have better coverage, and while

>>cell phones are smaller, sat phones are getting smaller too (my nephew

>>just joined the Navy and he was looking into getting one when he

>>completes his training and gets a ship assignment). Besides using voice

>>comms, a simple trip switch in a mounting where an AED is stored can

>>also be used to notify 911 (or building security who can contact 911 and

>>get the location pinpointed), just like an alarm that alerts when a

>>wired door or window is opened.

>> I would like to make some coin off of the idea, but I wouldn't know

>>where to start. Can an idea even be copywrited if a person doesn't know

>>the mechanics of how to implement it (like I tell my wife, there is a

>>reason I work on people and not machines)?

>>

>>dustdevil31 wrote:

>>

>>

>>

>>> Crosby wrote:

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>> Here's a thought. How about getting the AED manufactures to

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>

>>>install

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>>a something that contacts 911 when the AED is activated (something like

>>>>the OnStar system).

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>

>>>, that is a stellar idea! In fact, it is so good that I

>>>encourage you to get it to market FAST before somebody here scoops you!

>>>

>>>Red, most cellphones are neither 400mHz nor 800mHz. Most cellphones

>>>today are multiband, and operate primarily in the 1.3 - 1.4gHz range,

>>>with the old 800mHz band pretty much relegated to a backup for bad

>>>signal areas and rural regions. Regardless, satellite technology

>>>could also be utilized in the AED's.

>>>

>>>, you're pretty smart for " just a basic. "

>>>

>>>Rob ;)

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>

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" Ozenberger, A. " <kaozenbe@u...> wrote:

> most AED providers also sell cabinets for public places. These

> cabinets have local alarms that sound when either the door is

> opened, or the unit is removed from the cabinet.

Those cabinets are great, as they discourage people from randomly

dicking around with the unit, yet they offer a key-bypass for

authorized personnel to access the unit for training and maintenence

without tripping the alarm.

When installing AED's in public buildings, I have instructed the

personnel there to always treat that cabinet alarm as a signal to call

911 immediately. If it goes off, you either have a medical emergency

or a felony theft in progress. Either way, you need 911.

The problem is, many businesses who do not have the general public

coming through skip buying a cabinet because they cost over $500

dollars each.

Rob

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" Ozenberger, A. " <kaozenbe@u...> wrote:

> most AED providers also sell cabinets for public places. These

> cabinets have local alarms that sound when either the door is

> opened, or the unit is removed from the cabinet.

Those cabinets are great, as they discourage people from randomly

dicking around with the unit, yet they offer a key-bypass for

authorized personnel to access the unit for training and maintenence

without tripping the alarm.

When installing AED's in public buildings, I have instructed the

personnel there to always treat that cabinet alarm as a signal to call

911 immediately. If it goes off, you either have a medical emergency

or a felony theft in progress. Either way, you need 911.

The problem is, many businesses who do not have the general public

coming through skip buying a cabinet because they cost over $500

dollars each.

Rob

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" Ozenberger, A. " <kaozenbe@u...> wrote:

> most AED providers also sell cabinets for public places. These

> cabinets have local alarms that sound when either the door is

> opened, or the unit is removed from the cabinet.

Those cabinets are great, as they discourage people from randomly

dicking around with the unit, yet they offer a key-bypass for

authorized personnel to access the unit for training and maintenence

without tripping the alarm.

When installing AED's in public buildings, I have instructed the

personnel there to always treat that cabinet alarm as a signal to call

911 immediately. If it goes off, you either have a medical emergency

or a felony theft in progress. Either way, you need 911.

The problem is, many businesses who do not have the general public

coming through skip buying a cabinet because they cost over $500

dollars each.

Rob

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yeah, calling when the leads plugged in is a good idea, that way the unit

could turned on for testing and such, and the key by-pass for the cabinet is

also a good idea.

in the cases of AEDs in public places, and a local alarm going off, a strobe

would probably be helpful as well, like on fire alarms, but it only going

off at the station, a strobe on the cabinet or above it, high enough to be

seen easily. so in malls or other large places crowded with alot of people,

it would give us direction if we had vague directions or no escort.

and in large multistory buildings, an panel next to the fire alarm panel

that would show the location of the cabinet that had been activated, just

like the fire alarm panel.

we're sure gettin somewhere with this idea!

Re: Re: AED

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>> Thanks for the compliment (Just don't tell anybody... Might spoil

>>>my image). Actually, I was thinking satellite comms instead of

>>>cellular. Cells are great, but sats have better coverage, and while

>>>cell phones are smaller, sat phones are getting smaller too (my nephew

>>>just joined the Navy and he was looking into getting one when he

>>>completes his training and gets a ship assignment). Besides using voice

>>>comms, a simple trip switch in a mounting where an AED is stored can

>>>also be used to notify 911 (or building security who can contact 911 and

>>>get the location pinpointed), just like an alarm that alerts when a

>>>wired door or window is opened.

>>> I would like to make some coin off of the idea, but I wouldn't know

>>>where to start. Can an idea even be copywrited if a person doesn't know

>>>the mechanics of how to implement it (like I tell my wife, there is a

>>>reason I work on people and not machines)?

>>>

>>>dustdevil31 wrote:

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>> Crosby wrote:

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>> Here's a thought. How about getting the AED manufactures to

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>install

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>>a something that contacts 911 when the AED is activated (something like

>>>>>the OnStar system).

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>, that is a stellar idea! In fact, it is so good that I

>>>>encourage you to get it to market FAST before somebody here scoops you!

>>>>

>>>>Red, most cellphones are neither 400mHz nor 800mHz. Most cellphones

>>>>today are multiband, and operate primarily in the 1.3 - 1.4gHz range,

>>>>with the old 800mHz band pretty much relegated to a backup for bad

>>>>signal areas and rural regions. Regardless, satellite technology

>>>>could also be utilized in the AED's.

>>>>

>>>>, you're pretty smart for " just a basic. "

>>>>

>>>>Rob ;)

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>

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yeah, calling when the leads plugged in is a good idea, that way the unit

could turned on for testing and such, and the key by-pass for the cabinet is

also a good idea.

in the cases of AEDs in public places, and a local alarm going off, a strobe

would probably be helpful as well, like on fire alarms, but it only going

off at the station, a strobe on the cabinet or above it, high enough to be

seen easily. so in malls or other large places crowded with alot of people,

it would give us direction if we had vague directions or no escort.

and in large multistory buildings, an panel next to the fire alarm panel

that would show the location of the cabinet that had been activated, just

like the fire alarm panel.

we're sure gettin somewhere with this idea!

Re: Re: AED

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>> Thanks for the compliment (Just don't tell anybody... Might spoil

>>>my image). Actually, I was thinking satellite comms instead of

>>>cellular. Cells are great, but sats have better coverage, and while

>>>cell phones are smaller, sat phones are getting smaller too (my nephew

>>>just joined the Navy and he was looking into getting one when he

>>>completes his training and gets a ship assignment). Besides using voice

>>>comms, a simple trip switch in a mounting where an AED is stored can

>>>also be used to notify 911 (or building security who can contact 911 and

>>>get the location pinpointed), just like an alarm that alerts when a

>>>wired door or window is opened.

>>> I would like to make some coin off of the idea, but I wouldn't know

>>>where to start. Can an idea even be copywrited if a person doesn't know

>>>the mechanics of how to implement it (like I tell my wife, there is a

>>>reason I work on people and not machines)?

>>>

>>>dustdevil31 wrote:

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>> Crosby wrote:

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>> Here's a thought. How about getting the AED manufactures to

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>install

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>>a something that contacts 911 when the AED is activated (something like

>>>>>the OnStar system).

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>, that is a stellar idea! In fact, it is so good that I

>>>>encourage you to get it to market FAST before somebody here scoops you!

>>>>

>>>>Red, most cellphones are neither 400mHz nor 800mHz. Most cellphones

>>>>today are multiband, and operate primarily in the 1.3 - 1.4gHz range,

>>>>with the old 800mHz band pretty much relegated to a backup for bad

>>>>signal areas and rural regions. Regardless, satellite technology

>>>>could also be utilized in the AED's.

>>>>

>>>>, you're pretty smart for " just a basic. "

>>>>

>>>>Rob ;)

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>

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yeah, calling when the leads plugged in is a good idea, that way the unit

could turned on for testing and such, and the key by-pass for the cabinet is

also a good idea.

in the cases of AEDs in public places, and a local alarm going off, a strobe

would probably be helpful as well, like on fire alarms, but it only going

off at the station, a strobe on the cabinet or above it, high enough to be

seen easily. so in malls or other large places crowded with alot of people,

it would give us direction if we had vague directions or no escort.

and in large multistory buildings, an panel next to the fire alarm panel

that would show the location of the cabinet that had been activated, just

like the fire alarm panel.

we're sure gettin somewhere with this idea!

Re: Re: AED

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>> Thanks for the compliment (Just don't tell anybody... Might spoil

>>>my image). Actually, I was thinking satellite comms instead of

>>>cellular. Cells are great, but sats have better coverage, and while

>>>cell phones are smaller, sat phones are getting smaller too (my nephew

>>>just joined the Navy and he was looking into getting one when he

>>>completes his training and gets a ship assignment). Besides using voice

>>>comms, a simple trip switch in a mounting where an AED is stored can

>>>also be used to notify 911 (or building security who can contact 911 and

>>>get the location pinpointed), just like an alarm that alerts when a

>>>wired door or window is opened.

>>> I would like to make some coin off of the idea, but I wouldn't know

>>>where to start. Can an idea even be copywrited if a person doesn't know

>>>the mechanics of how to implement it (like I tell my wife, there is a

>>>reason I work on people and not machines)?

>>>

>>>dustdevil31 wrote:

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>> Crosby wrote:

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>> Here's a thought. How about getting the AED manufactures to

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>install

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>>a something that contacts 911 when the AED is activated (something like

>>>>>the OnStar system).

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>, that is a stellar idea! In fact, it is so good that I

>>>>encourage you to get it to market FAST before somebody here scoops you!

>>>>

>>>>Red, most cellphones are neither 400mHz nor 800mHz. Most cellphones

>>>>today are multiband, and operate primarily in the 1.3 - 1.4gHz range,

>>>>with the old 800mHz band pretty much relegated to a backup for bad

>>>>signal areas and rural regions. Regardless, satellite technology

>>>>could also be utilized in the AED's.

>>>>

>>>>, you're pretty smart for " just a basic. "

>>>>

>>>>Rob ;)

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>

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You really need to find a patent lawyer. Almost all of them have technical

expertise (it's required for the Patent Bar exam) and will be able to guide you

through the process. Most charge for the initial consultation, but it's

money well spent in the long run.

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You really need to find a patent lawyer. Almost all of them have technical

expertise (it's required for the Patent Bar exam) and will be able to guide you

through the process. Most charge for the initial consultation, but it's

money well spent in the long run.

-Wes

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You really need to find a patent lawyer. Almost all of them have technical

expertise (it's required for the Patent Bar exam) and will be able to guide you

through the process. Most charge for the initial consultation, but it's

money well spent in the long run.

-Wes

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I don't think the strobe thing would be good for an indicator of

where the unit is being used at, only where it came from unless the area

in question has a lot of them at regular intervals. Since cell phones

can be located by GPS, these units could be as well even if voice coms

are impractical for some reason. I recently saw a news story (on

channel 5 news in San ) about cell phones that parents can give

to their kids that have tracking devices in them so the parents will

know where their kids are at (or at least their phones). If its

affordable for such use, then the same tech can be applied here for not

much money in an AED even if it doesn't have sat com ability. I had

forgotten about that story till just now. I wonder if that route would

be more practical. It could also be used to track stolen units. I know

they sound like an unlikely theft item, but some of the things I've seen

stolen over the years where I work have definitely shown me that some

gene pools run a might shallow.

Anyway, we sure are getting somewhere here, but the question is what

do we do with the ideas? Personal financial considerations aside (which

might sound strange, but those considerations don't have much hold on

me... I must need a drink ;-} ), how does one get the manufacturers to

take these ideas seriously enough to look into implementing them?

Red wrote:

>yeah, calling when the leads plugged in is a good idea, that way the unit

>could turned on for testing and such, and the key by-pass for the cabinet is

>also a good idea.

>

>in the cases of AEDs in public places, and a local alarm going off, a strobe

>would probably be helpful as well, like on fire alarms, but it only going

>off at the station, a strobe on the cabinet or above it, high enough to be

>seen easily. so in malls or other large places crowded with alot of people,

>it would give us direction if we had vague directions or no escort.

>

>and in large multistory buildings, an panel next to the fire alarm panel

>that would show the location of the cabinet that had been activated, just

>like the fire alarm panel.

>

>we're sure gettin somewhere with this idea!

> Re: Re: AED

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>> Thanks for the compliment (Just don't tell anybody... Might spoil

>>>>my image). Actually, I was thinking satellite comms instead of

>>>>cellular. Cells are great, but sats have better coverage, and while

>>>>cell phones are smaller, sat phones are getting smaller too (my nephew

>>>>just joined the Navy and he was looking into getting one when he

>>>>completes his training and gets a ship assignment). Besides using voice

>>>>comms, a simple trip switch in a mounting where an AED is stored can

>>>>also be used to notify 911 (or building security who can contact 911 and

>>>>get the location pinpointed), just like an alarm that alerts when a

>>>>wired door or window is opened.

>>>> I would like to make some coin off of the idea, but I wouldn't know

>>>>where to start. Can an idea even be copywrited if a person doesn't know

>>>>the mechanics of how to implement it (like I tell my wife, there is a

>>>>reason I work on people and not machines)?

>>>>

>>>>dustdevil31 wrote:

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>> Crosby wrote:

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>> Here's a thought. How about getting the AED manufactures to

>>>>>>

>>>>>>

>>>>>>

>>>>>>

>>>>>>

>>>>>>

>>>>>install

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>>a something that contacts 911 when the AED is activated (something like

>>>>>>the OnStar system).

>>>>>>

>>>>>>

>>>>>>

>>>>>>

>>>>>>

>>>>>>

>>>>>, that is a stellar idea! In fact, it is so good that I

>>>>>encourage you to get it to market FAST before somebody here scoops you!

>>>>>

>>>>>Red, most cellphones are neither 400mHz nor 800mHz. Most cellphones

>>>>>today are multiband, and operate primarily in the 1.3 - 1.4gHz range,

>>>>>with the old 800mHz band pretty much relegated to a backup for bad

>>>>>signal areas and rural regions. Regardless, satellite technology

>>>>>could also be utilized in the AED's.

>>>>>

>>>>>, you're pretty smart for " just a basic. "

>>>>>

>>>>>Rob ;)

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>

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I don't think the strobe thing would be good for an indicator of

where the unit is being used at, only where it came from unless the area

in question has a lot of them at regular intervals. Since cell phones

can be located by GPS, these units could be as well even if voice coms

are impractical for some reason. I recently saw a news story (on

channel 5 news in San ) about cell phones that parents can give

to their kids that have tracking devices in them so the parents will

know where their kids are at (or at least their phones). If its

affordable for such use, then the same tech can be applied here for not

much money in an AED even if it doesn't have sat com ability. I had

forgotten about that story till just now. I wonder if that route would

be more practical. It could also be used to track stolen units. I know

they sound like an unlikely theft item, but some of the things I've seen

stolen over the years where I work have definitely shown me that some

gene pools run a might shallow.

Anyway, we sure are getting somewhere here, but the question is what

do we do with the ideas? Personal financial considerations aside (which

might sound strange, but those considerations don't have much hold on

me... I must need a drink ;-} ), how does one get the manufacturers to

take these ideas seriously enough to look into implementing them?

Red wrote:

>yeah, calling when the leads plugged in is a good idea, that way the unit

>could turned on for testing and such, and the key by-pass for the cabinet is

>also a good idea.

>

>in the cases of AEDs in public places, and a local alarm going off, a strobe

>would probably be helpful as well, like on fire alarms, but it only going

>off at the station, a strobe on the cabinet or above it, high enough to be

>seen easily. so in malls or other large places crowded with alot of people,

>it would give us direction if we had vague directions or no escort.

>

>and in large multistory buildings, an panel next to the fire alarm panel

>that would show the location of the cabinet that had been activated, just

>like the fire alarm panel.

>

>we're sure gettin somewhere with this idea!

> Re: Re: AED

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>> Thanks for the compliment (Just don't tell anybody... Might spoil

>>>>my image). Actually, I was thinking satellite comms instead of

>>>>cellular. Cells are great, but sats have better coverage, and while

>>>>cell phones are smaller, sat phones are getting smaller too (my nephew

>>>>just joined the Navy and he was looking into getting one when he

>>>>completes his training and gets a ship assignment). Besides using voice

>>>>comms, a simple trip switch in a mounting where an AED is stored can

>>>>also be used to notify 911 (or building security who can contact 911 and

>>>>get the location pinpointed), just like an alarm that alerts when a

>>>>wired door or window is opened.

>>>> I would like to make some coin off of the idea, but I wouldn't know

>>>>where to start. Can an idea even be copywrited if a person doesn't know

>>>>the mechanics of how to implement it (like I tell my wife, there is a

>>>>reason I work on people and not machines)?

>>>>

>>>>dustdevil31 wrote:

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>> Crosby wrote:

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>> Here's a thought. How about getting the AED manufactures to

>>>>>>

>>>>>>

>>>>>>

>>>>>>

>>>>>>

>>>>>>

>>>>>install

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>>a something that contacts 911 when the AED is activated (something like

>>>>>>the OnStar system).

>>>>>>

>>>>>>

>>>>>>

>>>>>>

>>>>>>

>>>>>>

>>>>>, that is a stellar idea! In fact, it is so good that I

>>>>>encourage you to get it to market FAST before somebody here scoops you!

>>>>>

>>>>>Red, most cellphones are neither 400mHz nor 800mHz. Most cellphones

>>>>>today are multiband, and operate primarily in the 1.3 - 1.4gHz range,

>>>>>with the old 800mHz band pretty much relegated to a backup for bad

>>>>>signal areas and rural regions. Regardless, satellite technology

>>>>>could also be utilized in the AED's.

>>>>>

>>>>>, you're pretty smart for " just a basic. "

>>>>>

>>>>>Rob ;)

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>

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I don't think the strobe thing would be good for an indicator of

where the unit is being used at, only where it came from unless the area

in question has a lot of them at regular intervals. Since cell phones

can be located by GPS, these units could be as well even if voice coms

are impractical for some reason. I recently saw a news story (on

channel 5 news in San ) about cell phones that parents can give

to their kids that have tracking devices in them so the parents will

know where their kids are at (or at least their phones). If its

affordable for such use, then the same tech can be applied here for not

much money in an AED even if it doesn't have sat com ability. I had

forgotten about that story till just now. I wonder if that route would

be more practical. It could also be used to track stolen units. I know

they sound like an unlikely theft item, but some of the things I've seen

stolen over the years where I work have definitely shown me that some

gene pools run a might shallow.

Anyway, we sure are getting somewhere here, but the question is what

do we do with the ideas? Personal financial considerations aside (which

might sound strange, but those considerations don't have much hold on

me... I must need a drink ;-} ), how does one get the manufacturers to

take these ideas seriously enough to look into implementing them?

Red wrote:

>yeah, calling when the leads plugged in is a good idea, that way the unit

>could turned on for testing and such, and the key by-pass for the cabinet is

>also a good idea.

>

>in the cases of AEDs in public places, and a local alarm going off, a strobe

>would probably be helpful as well, like on fire alarms, but it only going

>off at the station, a strobe on the cabinet or above it, high enough to be

>seen easily. so in malls or other large places crowded with alot of people,

>it would give us direction if we had vague directions or no escort.

>

>and in large multistory buildings, an panel next to the fire alarm panel

>that would show the location of the cabinet that had been activated, just

>like the fire alarm panel.

>

>we're sure gettin somewhere with this idea!

> Re: Re: AED

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>> Thanks for the compliment (Just don't tell anybody... Might spoil

>>>>my image). Actually, I was thinking satellite comms instead of

>>>>cellular. Cells are great, but sats have better coverage, and while

>>>>cell phones are smaller, sat phones are getting smaller too (my nephew

>>>>just joined the Navy and he was looking into getting one when he

>>>>completes his training and gets a ship assignment). Besides using voice

>>>>comms, a simple trip switch in a mounting where an AED is stored can

>>>>also be used to notify 911 (or building security who can contact 911 and

>>>>get the location pinpointed), just like an alarm that alerts when a

>>>>wired door or window is opened.

>>>> I would like to make some coin off of the idea, but I wouldn't know

>>>>where to start. Can an idea even be copywrited if a person doesn't know

>>>>the mechanics of how to implement it (like I tell my wife, there is a

>>>>reason I work on people and not machines)?

>>>>

>>>>dustdevil31 wrote:

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>> Crosby wrote:

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>> Here's a thought. How about getting the AED manufactures to

>>>>>>

>>>>>>

>>>>>>

>>>>>>

>>>>>>

>>>>>>

>>>>>install

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>>a something that contacts 911 when the AED is activated (something like

>>>>>>the OnStar system).

>>>>>>

>>>>>>

>>>>>>

>>>>>>

>>>>>>

>>>>>>

>>>>>, that is a stellar idea! In fact, it is so good that I

>>>>>encourage you to get it to market FAST before somebody here scoops you!

>>>>>

>>>>>Red, most cellphones are neither 400mHz nor 800mHz. Most cellphones

>>>>>today are multiband, and operate primarily in the 1.3 - 1.4gHz range,

>>>>>with the old 800mHz band pretty much relegated to a backup for bad

>>>>>signal areas and rural regions. Regardless, satellite technology

>>>>>could also be utilized in the AED's.

>>>>>

>>>>>, you're pretty smart for " just a basic. "

>>>>>

>>>>>Rob ;)

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>

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yeah! or at the least, tied into the buildings network, and could locate

from there.

Re: Re: AED

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>> Thanks for the compliment (Just don't tell anybody... Might spoil

>>>>>my image). Actually, I was thinking satellite comms instead of

>>>>>cellular. Cells are great, but sats have better coverage, and while

>>>>>cell phones are smaller, sat phones are getting smaller too (my nephew

>>>>>just joined the Navy and he was looking into getting one when he

>>>>>completes his training and gets a ship assignment). Besides using voice

>>>>>comms, a simple trip switch in a mounting where an AED is stored can

>>>>>also be used to notify 911 (or building security who can contact 911

>>>>>and

>>>>>get the location pinpointed), just like an alarm that alerts when a

>>>>>wired door or window is opened.

>>>>> I would like to make some coin off of the idea, but I wouldn't know

>>>>>where to start. Can an idea even be copywrited if a person doesn't know

>>>>>the mechanics of how to implement it (like I tell my wife, there is a

>>>>>reason I work on people and not machines)?

>>>>>

>>>>>dustdevil31 wrote:

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>> Crosby wrote:

>>>>>>

>>>>>>

>>>>>>

>>>>>>

>>>>>>

>>>>>>

>>>>>>> Here's a thought. How about getting the AED manufactures to

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>install

>>>>>>

>>>>>>

>>>>>>

>>>>>>

>>>>>>

>>>>>>

>>>>>>>a something that contacts 911 when the AED is activated (something

>>>>>>>like

>>>>>>>the OnStar system).

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>, that is a stellar idea! In fact, it is so good that I

>>>>>>encourage you to get it to market FAST before somebody here scoops

>>>>>>you!

>>>>>>

>>>>>>Red, most cellphones are neither 400mHz nor 800mHz. Most cellphones

>>>>>>today are multiband, and operate primarily in the 1.3 - 1.4gHz range,

>>>>>>with the old 800mHz band pretty much relegated to a backup for bad

>>>>>>signal areas and rural regions. Regardless, satellite technology

>>>>>>could also be utilized in the AED's.

>>>>>>

>>>>>>, you're pretty smart for " just a basic. "

>>>>>>

>>>>>>Rob ;)

>>>>>>

>>>>>>

>>>>>>

>>>>>>

>>>>>>

>>>>>>

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yeah! or at the least, tied into the buildings network, and could locate

from there.

Re: Re: AED

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>> Thanks for the compliment (Just don't tell anybody... Might spoil

>>>>>my image). Actually, I was thinking satellite comms instead of

>>>>>cellular. Cells are great, but sats have better coverage, and while

>>>>>cell phones are smaller, sat phones are getting smaller too (my nephew

>>>>>just joined the Navy and he was looking into getting one when he

>>>>>completes his training and gets a ship assignment). Besides using voice

>>>>>comms, a simple trip switch in a mounting where an AED is stored can

>>>>>also be used to notify 911 (or building security who can contact 911

>>>>>and

>>>>>get the location pinpointed), just like an alarm that alerts when a

>>>>>wired door or window is opened.

>>>>> I would like to make some coin off of the idea, but I wouldn't know

>>>>>where to start. Can an idea even be copywrited if a person doesn't know

>>>>>the mechanics of how to implement it (like I tell my wife, there is a

>>>>>reason I work on people and not machines)?

>>>>>

>>>>>dustdevil31 wrote:

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>> Crosby wrote:

>>>>>>

>>>>>>

>>>>>>

>>>>>>

>>>>>>

>>>>>>

>>>>>>> Here's a thought. How about getting the AED manufactures to

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>install

>>>>>>

>>>>>>

>>>>>>

>>>>>>

>>>>>>

>>>>>>

>>>>>>>a something that contacts 911 when the AED is activated (something

>>>>>>>like

>>>>>>>the OnStar system).

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>, that is a stellar idea! In fact, it is so good that I

>>>>>>encourage you to get it to market FAST before somebody here scoops

>>>>>>you!

>>>>>>

>>>>>>Red, most cellphones are neither 400mHz nor 800mHz. Most cellphones

>>>>>>today are multiband, and operate primarily in the 1.3 - 1.4gHz range,

>>>>>>with the old 800mHz band pretty much relegated to a backup for bad

>>>>>>signal areas and rural regions. Regardless, satellite technology

>>>>>>could also be utilized in the AED's.

>>>>>>

>>>>>>, you're pretty smart for " just a basic. "

>>>>>>

>>>>>>Rob ;)

>>>>>>

>>>>>>

>>>>>>

>>>>>>

>>>>>>

>>>>>>

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yeah! or at the least, tied into the buildings network, and could locate

from there.

Re: Re: AED

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>> Thanks for the compliment (Just don't tell anybody... Might spoil

>>>>>my image). Actually, I was thinking satellite comms instead of

>>>>>cellular. Cells are great, but sats have better coverage, and while

>>>>>cell phones are smaller, sat phones are getting smaller too (my nephew

>>>>>just joined the Navy and he was looking into getting one when he

>>>>>completes his training and gets a ship assignment). Besides using voice

>>>>>comms, a simple trip switch in a mounting where an AED is stored can

>>>>>also be used to notify 911 (or building security who can contact 911

>>>>>and

>>>>>get the location pinpointed), just like an alarm that alerts when a

>>>>>wired door or window is opened.

>>>>> I would like to make some coin off of the idea, but I wouldn't know

>>>>>where to start. Can an idea even be copywrited if a person doesn't know

>>>>>the mechanics of how to implement it (like I tell my wife, there is a

>>>>>reason I work on people and not machines)?

>>>>>

>>>>>dustdevil31 wrote:

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>> Crosby wrote:

>>>>>>

>>>>>>

>>>>>>

>>>>>>

>>>>>>

>>>>>>

>>>>>>> Here's a thought. How about getting the AED manufactures to

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>install

>>>>>>

>>>>>>

>>>>>>

>>>>>>

>>>>>>

>>>>>>

>>>>>>>a something that contacts 911 when the AED is activated (something

>>>>>>>like

>>>>>>>the OnStar system).

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>, that is a stellar idea! In fact, it is so good that I

>>>>>>encourage you to get it to market FAST before somebody here scoops

>>>>>>you!

>>>>>>

>>>>>>Red, most cellphones are neither 400mHz nor 800mHz. Most cellphones

>>>>>>today are multiband, and operate primarily in the 1.3 - 1.4gHz range,

>>>>>>with the old 800mHz band pretty much relegated to a backup for bad

>>>>>>signal areas and rural regions. Regardless, satellite technology

>>>>>>could also be utilized in the AED's.

>>>>>>

>>>>>>, you're pretty smart for " just a basic. "

>>>>>>

>>>>>>Rob ;)

>>>>>>

>>>>>>

>>>>>>

>>>>>>

>>>>>>

>>>>>>

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Re: Re: AED

> >>>>>

> >>>>>

> >>>>>

> >>>>>

> >>>>>

> >>>>>

> >>>>>

> >>>>>

> >>>>>>Thanks for the compliment (Just don't tell anybody... Might spoil

> >>>>>>my image). Actually, I was thinking satellite comms instead of

> >>>>>>cellular. Cells are great, but sats have better coverage, and while

> >>>>>>cell phones are smaller, sat phones are getting smaller too (my

nephew

> >>>>>>just joined the Navy and he was looking into getting one when he

> >>>>>>completes his training and gets a ship assignment). Besides using

> >>>>>>voice

> >>>>>>comms, a simple trip switch in a mounting where an AED is stored can

> >>>>>>also be used to notify 911 (or building security who can contact 911

> >>>>>>and

> >>>>>>get the location pinpointed), just like an alarm that alerts when a

> >>>>>>wired door or window is opened.

> >>>>>>I would like to make some coin off of the idea, but I wouldn't know

> >>>>>>where to start. Can an idea even be copywrited if a person doesn't

> >>>>>>know

> >>>>>>the mechanics of how to implement it (like I tell my wife, there is

a

> >>>>>>reason I work on people and not machines)?

> >>>>>>

> >>>>>>dustdevil31 wrote:

> >>>>>>

> >>>>>>

> >>>>>>

> >>>>>>

> >>>>>>

> >>>>>>

> >>>>>>

> >>>>>>> Crosby wrote:

> >>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>>Here's a thought. How about getting the AED manufactures to

> >>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>install

> >>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>>a something that contacts 911 when the AED is activated (something

> >>>>>>>>like

> >>>>>>>>the OnStar system).

> >>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>, that is a stellar idea! In fact, it is so good that I

> >>>>>>>encourage you to get it to market FAST before somebody here scoops

> >>>>>>>you!

> >>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>Red, most cellphones are neither 400mHz nor 800mHz. Most cellphones

> >>>>>>>today are multiband, and operate primarily in the 1.3 - 1.4gHz

range,

> >>>>>>>with the old 800mHz band pretty much relegated to a backup for bad

> >>>>>>>signal areas and rural regions. Regardless, satellite technology

> >>>>>>>could also be utilized in the AED's.

> >>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>, you're pretty smart for " just a basic. "

> >>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>Rob ;)

> >>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>

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> >>>>>

> >>>>>

> >>>>>

> >>>>>

> >>>>>

> >>>>>

> >>>>>

> >>>>>

> >>>>>>Thanks for the compliment (Just don't tell anybody... Might spoil

> >>>>>>my image). Actually, I was thinking satellite comms instead of

> >>>>>>cellular. Cells are great, but sats have better coverage, and while

> >>>>>>cell phones are smaller, sat phones are getting smaller too (my

nephew

> >>>>>>just joined the Navy and he was looking into getting one when he

> >>>>>>completes his training and gets a ship assignment). Besides using

> >>>>>>voice

> >>>>>>comms, a simple trip switch in a mounting where an AED is stored can

> >>>>>>also be used to notify 911 (or building security who can contact 911

> >>>>>>and

> >>>>>>get the location pinpointed), just like an alarm that alerts when a

> >>>>>>wired door or window is opened.

> >>>>>>I would like to make some coin off of the idea, but I wouldn't know

> >>>>>>where to start. Can an idea even be copywrited if a person doesn't

> >>>>>>know

> >>>>>>the mechanics of how to implement it (like I tell my wife, there is

a

> >>>>>>reason I work on people and not machines)?

> >>>>>>

> >>>>>>dustdevil31 wrote:

> >>>>>>

> >>>>>>

> >>>>>>

> >>>>>>

> >>>>>>

> >>>>>>

> >>>>>>

> >>>>>>> Crosby wrote:

> >>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>>Here's a thought. How about getting the AED manufactures to

> >>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>install

> >>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>>a something that contacts 911 when the AED is activated (something

> >>>>>>>>like

> >>>>>>>>the OnStar system).

> >>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>, that is a stellar idea! In fact, it is so good that I

> >>>>>>>encourage you to get it to market FAST before somebody here scoops

> >>>>>>>you!

> >>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>Red, most cellphones are neither 400mHz nor 800mHz. Most cellphones

> >>>>>>>today are multiband, and operate primarily in the 1.3 - 1.4gHz

range,

> >>>>>>>with the old 800mHz band pretty much relegated to a backup for bad

> >>>>>>>signal areas and rural regions. Regardless, satellite technology

> >>>>>>>could also be utilized in the AED's.

> >>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>, you're pretty smart for " just a basic. "

> >>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>Rob ;)

> >>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>

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> >>>>>

> >>>>>

> >>>>>

> >>>>>

> >>>>>

> >>>>>

> >>>>>

> >>>>>

> >>>>>>Thanks for the compliment (Just don't tell anybody... Might spoil

> >>>>>>my image). Actually, I was thinking satellite comms instead of

> >>>>>>cellular. Cells are great, but sats have better coverage, and while

> >>>>>>cell phones are smaller, sat phones are getting smaller too (my

nephew

> >>>>>>just joined the Navy and he was looking into getting one when he

> >>>>>>completes his training and gets a ship assignment). Besides using

> >>>>>>voice

> >>>>>>comms, a simple trip switch in a mounting where an AED is stored can

> >>>>>>also be used to notify 911 (or building security who can contact 911

> >>>>>>and

> >>>>>>get the location pinpointed), just like an alarm that alerts when a

> >>>>>>wired door or window is opened.

> >>>>>>I would like to make some coin off of the idea, but I wouldn't know

> >>>>>>where to start. Can an idea even be copywrited if a person doesn't

> >>>>>>know

> >>>>>>the mechanics of how to implement it (like I tell my wife, there is

a

> >>>>>>reason I work on people and not machines)?

> >>>>>>

> >>>>>>dustdevil31 wrote:

> >>>>>>

> >>>>>>

> >>>>>>

> >>>>>>

> >>>>>>

> >>>>>>

> >>>>>>

> >>>>>>> Crosby wrote:

> >>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>>Here's a thought. How about getting the AED manufactures to

> >>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>install

> >>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>>a something that contacts 911 when the AED is activated (something

> >>>>>>>>like

> >>>>>>>>the OnStar system).

> >>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>, that is a stellar idea! In fact, it is so good that I

> >>>>>>>encourage you to get it to market FAST before somebody here scoops

> >>>>>>>you!

> >>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>Red, most cellphones are neither 400mHz nor 800mHz. Most cellphones

> >>>>>>>today are multiband, and operate primarily in the 1.3 - 1.4gHz

range,

> >>>>>>>with the old 800mHz band pretty much relegated to a backup for bad

> >>>>>>>signal areas and rural regions. Regardless, satellite technology

> >>>>>>>could also be utilized in the AED's.

> >>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>, you're pretty smart for " just a basic. "

> >>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>Rob ;)

> >>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>

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