Re: REMOVE YOURSELF

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In a message dated 1/9/01 6:23:26 PM Pacific Standard Time, Stigmata@...

writes:

<< Yes, I have a few questions (although I expect the above was a rhetorical

question for Cordap). Why are you so angry? If this kind of post annoys

you so

much why not simply use your delete key to better advantage? Why do you find

someone's lack of skills to be socially incorrect?

Peace,

>>

, I agree with your tolerant approach here, although I

too find this extremely annoying. It is only human to tear your hair at some

point when you see repeated posts like this. Perhaps a better solution, for

those not used to the innies and outies of lists, is to make it more explicit

somehow or run a post every once in awhile on how to unsubscribe. Piper.

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In a message dated 1/9/01 6:23:26 PM Pacific Standard Time, Stigmata@...

writes:

<< Yes, I have a few questions (although I expect the above was a rhetorical

question for Cordap). Why are you so angry? If this kind of post annoys

you so

much why not simply use your delete key to better advantage? Why do you find

someone's lack of skills to be socially incorrect?

Peace,

>>

, I agree with your tolerant approach here, although I

too find this extremely annoying. It is only human to tear your hair at some

point when you see repeated posts like this. Perhaps a better solution, for

those not used to the innies and outies of lists, is to make it more explicit

somehow or run a post every once in awhile on how to unsubscribe. Piper.

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 1/9/01 6:52:15 PM Pacific Standard Time,

njacobs@... writes:

<< -

FYI - When you again feel the need to give somebody the " what's what " you

should consider passing on your trademark closing of " peace. " It make you

sound very snotty, much like telling somebody to have a nice day after an

exchange of words when both parties know you mean something entirely

different.

Nate

>>

This is the problem with judgement. It reminds me of one of Trimpey's

concepts in his first or second book, USA. Unconditional self acceptance and

the problem with comparing yourself to others, when it is irrelevant. This,

too can be traced to Ellis's concepts but I applaud Trimpey for making a

point of it. UOA would be great (unconditonal other acceptance) but i think

we're all basically kind of irritable. Lol.

Not a serious observation, but since I have such a difficult time with being

criticized, I use it as a guage when I find myself overheated with someone

else about something. just a little learning device of mine.

I would hate to think of the ramifications for artistic expression, however,

if everyone approached UOA. Piper.

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In a message dated 1/9/01 6:52:15 PM Pacific Standard Time,

njacobs@... writes:

<< -

FYI - When you again feel the need to give somebody the " what's what " you

should consider passing on your trademark closing of " peace. " It make you

sound very snotty, much like telling somebody to have a nice day after an

exchange of words when both parties know you mean something entirely

different.

Nate

>>

This is the problem with judgement. It reminds me of one of Trimpey's

concepts in his first or second book, USA. Unconditional self acceptance and

the problem with comparing yourself to others, when it is irrelevant. This,

too can be traced to Ellis's concepts but I applaud Trimpey for making a

point of it. UOA would be great (unconditonal other acceptance) but i think

we're all basically kind of irritable. Lol.

Not a serious observation, but since I have such a difficult time with being

criticized, I use it as a guage when I find myself overheated with someone

else about something. just a little learning device of mine.

I would hate to think of the ramifications for artistic expression, however,

if everyone approached UOA. Piper.

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 1/9/01 6:52:15 PM Pacific Standard Time,

njacobs@... writes:

<< -

FYI - When you again feel the need to give somebody the " what's what " you

should consider passing on your trademark closing of " peace. " It make you

sound very snotty, much like telling somebody to have a nice day after an

exchange of words when both parties know you mean something entirely

different.

Nate

>>

This is the problem with judgement. It reminds me of one of Trimpey's

concepts in his first or second book, USA. Unconditional self acceptance and

the problem with comparing yourself to others, when it is irrelevant. This,

too can be traced to Ellis's concepts but I applaud Trimpey for making a

point of it. UOA would be great (unconditonal other acceptance) but i think

we're all basically kind of irritable. Lol.

Not a serious observation, but since I have such a difficult time with being

criticized, I use it as a guage when I find myself overheated with someone

else about something. just a little learning device of mine.

I would hate to think of the ramifications for artistic expression, however,

if everyone approached UOA. Piper.

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 1/9/01 6:54:57 PM Pacific Standard Time, Stigmata@...

writes:

<< Why do you extrapolate from a minor display of ignorance that

the offending posters " turn into blubbering idiots " ? How much tolerance is

required to say, " Oh, another one " and hit the delete key? I suppose for

someone who might enjoy being upset, adding another pet peeve would be

useful.

Peace,

>>

Just some hypothesesssssss~~~~~ a) a lot of tolerance? <g> the

extrapolation is done by those of us with ADD whose concentration gets

interrupted very easily?

c) ala Albert Ellis, some of us have excruciatingly low frustration tolerance

levels?

d) some of us interpret it as rejection? (personalizing) (ha) e) some of us

have had a lot of experience with trolls and thereby mistrust the supposedly

neutral request? e) some of us are very busy and exhausted and get riled by

having to hit the delete key so often? f) it is aesthetically unpleasing as

we scroll the list? ad infinitum

But, thank you for sticking up for those who simply don't know what to do

. Piper

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 1/9/01 6:54:57 PM Pacific Standard Time, Stigmata@...

writes:

<< Why do you extrapolate from a minor display of ignorance that

the offending posters " turn into blubbering idiots " ? How much tolerance is

required to say, " Oh, another one " and hit the delete key? I suppose for

someone who might enjoy being upset, adding another pet peeve would be

useful.

Peace,

>>

Just some hypothesesssssss~~~~~ a) a lot of tolerance? <g> the

extrapolation is done by those of us with ADD whose concentration gets

interrupted very easily?

c) ala Albert Ellis, some of us have excruciatingly low frustration tolerance

levels?

d) some of us interpret it as rejection? (personalizing) (ha) e) some of us

have had a lot of experience with trolls and thereby mistrust the supposedly

neutral request? e) some of us are very busy and exhausted and get riled by

having to hit the delete key so often? f) it is aesthetically unpleasing as

we scroll the list? ad infinitum

But, thank you for sticking up for those who simply don't know what to do

. Piper

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 1/9/01 6:54:57 PM Pacific Standard Time, Stigmata@...

writes:

<< Why do you extrapolate from a minor display of ignorance that

the offending posters " turn into blubbering idiots " ? How much tolerance is

required to say, " Oh, another one " and hit the delete key? I suppose for

someone who might enjoy being upset, adding another pet peeve would be

useful.

Peace,

>>

Just some hypothesesssssss~~~~~ a) a lot of tolerance? <g> the

extrapolation is done by those of us with ADD whose concentration gets

interrupted very easily?

c) ala Albert Ellis, some of us have excruciatingly low frustration tolerance

levels?

d) some of us interpret it as rejection? (personalizing) (ha) e) some of us

have had a lot of experience with trolls and thereby mistrust the supposedly

neutral request? e) some of us are very busy and exhausted and get riled by

having to hit the delete key so often? f) it is aesthetically unpleasing as

we scroll the list? ad infinitum

But, thank you for sticking up for those who simply don't know what to do

. Piper

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 1/9/01 7:19:08 PM Pacific Standard Time,

j_stillwater@... writes:

<< Exactly. Then one person posts and a whole rash of people take up the

" please unsubscribe me " thing. It's the kind of indirect, passive

aggressive behavior that drives me crazy because then the offender can

plead ignorance, innocence, and tell me how horrible I am for not

being nice. Well, I'm plenty nice to people who aren't rude to me,

thank you very much.

judith >>

I will add that to my list of why extrapolate. haha. Ok.

everybody make up. Wait. I'm just a newcomer here. <<ducks thrown tomatoes

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 1/9/01 7:19:08 PM Pacific Standard Time,

j_stillwater@... writes:

<< Exactly. Then one person posts and a whole rash of people take up the

" please unsubscribe me " thing. It's the kind of indirect, passive

aggressive behavior that drives me crazy because then the offender can

plead ignorance, innocence, and tell me how horrible I am for not

being nice. Well, I'm plenty nice to people who aren't rude to me,

thank you very much.

judith >>

I will add that to my list of why extrapolate. haha. Ok.

everybody make up. Wait. I'm just a newcomer here. <<ducks thrown tomatoes

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 1/9/01 7:19:08 PM Pacific Standard Time,

j_stillwater@... writes:

<< Exactly. Then one person posts and a whole rash of people take up the

" please unsubscribe me " thing. It's the kind of indirect, passive

aggressive behavior that drives me crazy because then the offender can

plead ignorance, innocence, and tell me how horrible I am for not

being nice. Well, I'm plenty nice to people who aren't rude to me,

thank you very much.

judith >>

I will add that to my list of why extrapolate. haha. Ok.

everybody make up. Wait. I'm just a newcomer here. <<ducks thrown tomatoes

[Guest guest]

: I never used the words blubbering idiots. I do not recall seeing those words until used them. I suggest that it is who is characterizing people as blubbering idiots, and no one else.

Judith:

I take responsibility for using that term, maybe a better term for people that sub themselves and then ask for you to remove them would be LAZY! I still stick with the idiot part though for some people! Sorry you got blamed for my words. lol

Sue A

[Guest guest]

: I never used the words blubbering idiots. I do not recall seeing those words until used them. I suggest that it is who is characterizing people as blubbering idiots, and no one else.

Judith:

I take responsibility for using that term, maybe a better term for people that sub themselves and then ask for you to remove them would be LAZY! I still stick with the idiot part though for some people! Sorry you got blamed for my words. lol

Sue A

[Guest guest]

: I never used the words blubbering idiots. I do not recall seeing those words until used them. I suggest that it is who is characterizing people as blubbering idiots, and no one else.

Judith:

I take responsibility for using that term, maybe a better term for people that sub themselves and then ask for you to remove them would be LAZY! I still stick with the idiot part though for some people! Sorry you got blamed for my words. lol

Sue A

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 1/11/01 5:10:36 PM Pacific Standard Time, arroyoh@...

writes:

<< Haha fooled you we don't throw tomatoes here. We throw volumes of the bb

with neener neener written in large black crayon on every page. If that

doesn't work we'll start a fluffy post thread or two or three then there is

always the dreaded cat fancier thread that gets quite a few. And if that

don't work we've got the pistol packing mommas to pick up what the rest

leaves behind.

No matter how ya look at it we got ya covered.

>>

<<Leans back on fence post, pushes big-brimmed hat back on head, and <spits>

pistol packin mommas huh? haha. thanks hector.

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 1/11/01 5:10:36 PM Pacific Standard Time, arroyoh@...

writes:

<< Haha fooled you we don't throw tomatoes here. We throw volumes of the bb

with neener neener written in large black crayon on every page. If that

doesn't work we'll start a fluffy post thread or two or three then there is

always the dreaded cat fancier thread that gets quite a few. And if that

don't work we've got the pistol packing mommas to pick up what the rest

leaves behind.

No matter how ya look at it we got ya covered.

>>

<<Leans back on fence post, pushes big-brimmed hat back on head, and <spits>

pistol packin mommas huh? haha. thanks hector.

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 1/11/01 7:15:24 PM Pacific Standard Time,

dmarcoot@... writes:

<< thsat was too funny. he better not get me worked up, or ill qoute

billy untill i cna cut and past no more, and for a bonus, i will

disect why he shouldnt refer to himself as a " newcomer "

>>

Ha ha yerself Marcooty: Is parody lost on you???? LOLOL. And I'll get ya

worked up anytime i damned well please. Well, maybe only ...well a

little....well....keep comin back. Piper.

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 1/11/01 7:15:24 PM Pacific Standard Time,

dmarcoot@... writes:

<< thsat was too funny. he better not get me worked up, or ill qoute

billy untill i cna cut and past no more, and for a bonus, i will

disect why he shouldnt refer to himself as a " newcomer "

>>

Ha ha yerself Marcooty: Is parody lost on you???? LOLOL. And I'll get ya

worked up anytime i damned well please. Well, maybe only ...well a

little....well....keep comin back. Piper.

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 1/11/01 7:15:24 PM Pacific Standard Time,

dmarcoot@... writes:

<< thsat was too funny. he better not get me worked up, or ill qoute

billy untill i cna cut and past no more, and for a bonus, i will

disect why he shouldnt refer to himself as a " newcomer "

>>

Ha ha yerself Marcooty: Is parody lost on you???? LOLOL. And I'll get ya

worked up anytime i damned well please. Well, maybe only ...well a

little....well....keep comin back. Piper.

[Guest guest]

> In a message dated 1/9/01 6:54:57 PM Pacific Standard Time,

Stigmata@h...

> writes:

>

> << Why do you extrapolate from a minor display of ignorance that

> the offending posters " turn into blubbering idiots " ? How much

tolerance is

> required to say, " Oh, another one " and hit the delete key? I

suppose for

> someone who might enjoy being upset, adding another pet peeve would

be

> useful.

>

> Peace,

> >>

>

> Just some hypothesesssssss~~~~~ a) a lot of tolerance? <g> the

> extrapolation is done by those of us with ADD whose concentration

gets

> interrupted very easily?

> c) ala Albert Ellis, some of us have excruciatingly low frustration

tolerance

> levels?

> d) some of us interpret it as rejection? (personalizing) (ha) e)

some of us

> have had a lot of experience with trolls and thereby mistrust the

supposedly

> neutral request? e) some of us are very busy and exhausted and get

riled by

> having to hit the delete key so often? f) it is aesthetically

unpleasing as

> we scroll the list? ad infinitum

I would add this option: I never used the words blubbering idiots. I

do not recall seeing those words until used them. I suggest

that it is who is characterizing people as blubbering idiots,

and no one else.

and this: I did not see a display of minor ignorance, I saw a

deliberate effort to provoke and reacted to it. If I'm wrong I'm

wrong, but I've seen no evidence to prove me wrong on either of my

suggested options.

Possible evidence: has membership dropped since all those people asked

to be removed from the list? I don't know since it doesn't show up on

my groups page. If membership has dropped in roughly the same amount

as the nubmer of people who posted to be removed, then that would be

evidence against my hypothesis of deliberate trollery.

judith

[Guest guest]

> In a message dated 1/9/01 6:54:57 PM Pacific Standard Time,

Stigmata@h...

> writes:

>

> << Why do you extrapolate from a minor display of ignorance that

> the offending posters " turn into blubbering idiots " ? How much

tolerance is

> required to say, " Oh, another one " and hit the delete key? I

suppose for

> someone who might enjoy being upset, adding another pet peeve would

be

> useful.

>

> Peace,

> >>

>

> Just some hypothesesssssss~~~~~ a) a lot of tolerance? <g> the

> extrapolation is done by those of us with ADD whose concentration

gets

> interrupted very easily?

> c) ala Albert Ellis, some of us have excruciatingly low frustration

tolerance

> levels?

> d) some of us interpret it as rejection? (personalizing) (ha) e)

some of us

> have had a lot of experience with trolls and thereby mistrust the

supposedly

> neutral request? e) some of us are very busy and exhausted and get

riled by

> having to hit the delete key so often? f) it is aesthetically

unpleasing as

> we scroll the list? ad infinitum

I would add this option: I never used the words blubbering idiots. I

do not recall seeing those words until used them. I suggest

that it is who is characterizing people as blubbering idiots,

and no one else.

and this: I did not see a display of minor ignorance, I saw a

deliberate effort to provoke and reacted to it. If I'm wrong I'm

wrong, but I've seen no evidence to prove me wrong on either of my

suggested options.

Possible evidence: has membership dropped since all those people asked

to be removed from the list? I don't know since it doesn't show up on

my groups page. If membership has dropped in roughly the same amount

as the nubmer of people who posted to be removed, then that would be

evidence against my hypothesis of deliberate trollery.

judith

[Guest guest]

> In a message dated 1/9/01 6:54:57 PM Pacific Standard Time,

Stigmata@h...

> writes:

>

> << Why do you extrapolate from a minor display of ignorance that

> the offending posters " turn into blubbering idiots " ? How much

tolerance is

> required to say, " Oh, another one " and hit the delete key? I

suppose for

> someone who might enjoy being upset, adding another pet peeve would

be

> useful.

>

> Peace,

> >>

>

> Just some hypothesesssssss~~~~~ a) a lot of tolerance? <g> the

> extrapolation is done by those of us with ADD whose concentration

gets

> interrupted very easily?

> c) ala Albert Ellis, some of us have excruciatingly low frustration

tolerance

> levels?

> d) some of us interpret it as rejection? (personalizing) (ha) e)

some of us

> have had a lot of experience with trolls and thereby mistrust the

supposedly

> neutral request? e) some of us are very busy and exhausted and get

riled by

> having to hit the delete key so often? f) it is aesthetically

unpleasing as

> we scroll the list? ad infinitum

I would add this option: I never used the words blubbering idiots. I

do not recall seeing those words until used them. I suggest

that it is who is characterizing people as blubbering idiots,

and no one else.

and this: I did not see a display of minor ignorance, I saw a

deliberate effort to provoke and reacted to it. If I'm wrong I'm

wrong, but I've seen no evidence to prove me wrong on either of my

suggested options.

Possible evidence: has membership dropped since all those people asked

to be removed from the list? I don't know since it doesn't show up on

my groups page. If membership has dropped in roughly the same amount

as the nubmer of people who posted to be removed, then that would be

evidence against my hypothesis of deliberate trollery.

judith

[Guest guest]

Haha fooled you we don't throw tomatoes here. We throw volumes of the bb

with neener neener written in large black crayon on every page. If that

doesn't work we'll start a fluffy post thread or two or three then there is

always the dreaded cat fancier thread that gets quite a few. And if that

don't work we've got the pistol packing mommas to pick up what the rest

leaves behind.

No matter how ya look at it we got ya covered.

> Re: Re: REMOVE YOURSELF

>

> I will add that to my list of why extrapolate. haha. Ok.

>everybody make up. Wait. I'm just a newcomer here. <<ducks

>thrown tomatoes

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

thsat was too funny. he better not get me worked up, or ill qoute

billy untill i cna cut and past no more, and for a bonus, i will

disect why he shouldnt refer to himself as a " newcomer "

>

> Haha fooled you we don't throw tomatoes here. We throw

volumes of the bb

> with neener neener written in large black crayon on every page.

If that

> doesn't work we'll start a fluffy post thread or two or three then

there is

> always the dreaded cat fancier thread that gets quite a few. And

if that

> don't work we've got the pistol packing mommas to pick up

what the rest

> leaves behind.

>

> No matter how ya look at it we got ya covered.

>

> > Re: Re: REMOVE YOURSELF

> >

> > I will add that to my list of why extrapolate. haha. Ok.

> >everybody make up. Wait. I'm just a newcomer here.

<<ducks

> >thrown tomatoes

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

> In a message dated 1/11/01 5:21:42 PM Pacific Standard Time,

> j_stillwater@e... writes:

>

>

> > : I never used the words blubbering idiots. I

> > do not recall seeing those words until used them. I suggest

> > that it is who is characterizing people as blubbering

idiots,

> > and no one else.

> >

> >

>

>

> Judith:

>

> I take responsibility for using that term, maybe a better term for

people

> that sub themselves and then ask for you to remove them would be

LAZY! I

> still stick with the idiot part though for some people! Sorry you

got blamed

> for my words. lol

hehe, in that case, all is forgiven, Sue

judith