Guest guest Posted January 9, 2001 Report Share Posted January 9, 2001 , THEN YOU HAVE A REASONABLE EXCUSE FOR POSTING TO THE LIST. Any freakin questions????? Well, said, Judith ! This is one of my giant pet peeves about these lists, people are always smart enough to subscribe in the first place but then turn into blubbering idiots when it comes to unsubbing themselves. Sue A Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Guest guest Posted January 9, 2001 Report Share Posted January 9, 2001 Judith Stillwater wrote: > I think it is rude to post " please remove my name " messages to the > entire list. I don't want you here any more than you want to be here, > and you are taking up space that is reserved for people who want to > discuss appropriate issues for this list. This is a specious argument used to justify your anger at Cordap for doing something you consider rude. His membership in this group, nor his post asking to be removed, have prevented anyone from interacting here on the list. And, while his post demonstrates a certain ignorance of the procedure for unsubscribing, it's a bit of a stretch to call it rude. > It is the responsibility of the person subscribing to the group to > figure out how to unsubscribe. I've tried being polite, I've tried > being helpful, I've tried being rude in return. I'm sick of taking > care of you. Why have you taken on the responsibility of " taking care of " Cordap? These " please unsubsribe me " request are all to common place on email lists, is every request your responsibility? > REMOVE YOURSELF FROM THE LIST. Do you believe that the above non instructive directive will be more effective if typed in all caps? Of course, now that he has been told to " remove himself " , (coupled with the information that you don't want him here either) he will now magically understand how to to do what he has clearly shown he does not no how to do. > IF YOU HAVE SENT THE APPROPRIATE UNSUBSCRIBE EMAIL MESSAGE AND STILL > RECEIVE MESSAGES AFTER 12-24 HOURS, THEN YOU HAVE A REASONABLE EXCUSE > FOR POSTING TO THE LIST. > > Any freakin questions????? Yes, I have a few questions (although I expect the above was a rhetorical question for Cordap). Why are you so angry? If this kind of post annoys you so much why not simply use your delete key to better advantage? Why do you find someone's lack of skills to be socially incorrect? Peace, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 9, 2001 Report Share Posted January 9, 2001 Judith Stillwater wrote: > I think it is rude to post " please remove my name " messages to the > entire list. I don't want you here any more than you want to be here, > and you are taking up space that is reserved for people who want to > discuss appropriate issues for this list. This is a specious argument used to justify your anger at Cordap for doing something you consider rude. His membership in this group, nor his post asking to be removed, have prevented anyone from interacting here on the list. And, while his post demonstrates a certain ignorance of the procedure for unsubscribing, it's a bit of a stretch to call it rude. > It is the responsibility of the person subscribing to the group to > figure out how to unsubscribe. I've tried being polite, I've tried > being helpful, I've tried being rude in return. I'm sick of taking > care of you. Why have you taken on the responsibility of " taking care of " Cordap? These " please unsubsribe me " request are all to common place on email lists, is every request your responsibility? > REMOVE YOURSELF FROM THE LIST. Do you believe that the above non instructive directive will be more effective if typed in all caps? Of course, now that he has been told to " remove himself " , (coupled with the information that you don't want him here either) he will now magically understand how to to do what he has clearly shown he does not no how to do. > IF YOU HAVE SENT THE APPROPRIATE UNSUBSCRIBE EMAIL MESSAGE AND STILL > RECEIVE MESSAGES AFTER 12-24 HOURS, THEN YOU HAVE A REASONABLE EXCUSE > FOR POSTING TO THE LIST. > > Any freakin questions????? Yes, I have a few questions (although I expect the above was a rhetorical question for Cordap). Why are you so angry? If this kind of post annoys you so much why not simply use your delete key to better advantage? Why do you find someone's lack of skills to be socially incorrect? Peace, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 9, 2001 Report Share Posted January 9, 2001 Judith Stillwater wrote: > I think it is rude to post " please remove my name " messages to the > entire list. I don't want you here any more than you want to be here, > and you are taking up space that is reserved for people who want to > discuss appropriate issues for this list. This is a specious argument used to justify your anger at Cordap for doing something you consider rude. His membership in this group, nor his post asking to be removed, have prevented anyone from interacting here on the list. And, while his post demonstrates a certain ignorance of the procedure for unsubscribing, it's a bit of a stretch to call it rude. > It is the responsibility of the person subscribing to the group to > figure out how to unsubscribe. I've tried being polite, I've tried > being helpful, I've tried being rude in return. I'm sick of taking > care of you. Why have you taken on the responsibility of " taking care of " Cordap? These " please unsubsribe me " request are all to common place on email lists, is every request your responsibility? > REMOVE YOURSELF FROM THE LIST. Do you believe that the above non instructive directive will be more effective if typed in all caps? Of course, now that he has been told to " remove himself " , (coupled with the information that you don't want him here either) he will now magically understand how to to do what he has clearly shown he does not no how to do. > IF YOU HAVE SENT THE APPROPRIATE UNSUBSCRIBE EMAIL MESSAGE AND STILL > RECEIVE MESSAGES AFTER 12-24 HOURS, THEN YOU HAVE A REASONABLE EXCUSE > FOR POSTING TO THE LIST. > > Any freakin questions????? Yes, I have a few questions (although I expect the above was a rhetorical question for Cordap). Why are you so angry? If this kind of post annoys you so much why not simply use your delete key to better advantage? Why do you find someone's lack of skills to be socially incorrect? Peace, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 9, 2001 Report Share Posted January 9, 2001 Well, said, Judith ! This is one of my giant pet peeves about these lists, people are always smart enough to subscribe in the first place but then turn into blubbering idiots when it comes to unsubbing themselves. Sue A What all these people have in common is that you never hear from them until they post that they want to unsubscribe. I'm guessing they know perfectly well how to do it but want to make some type of statement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 9, 2001 Report Share Posted January 9, 2001 Well, said, Judith ! This is one of my giant pet peeves about these lists, people are always smart enough to subscribe in the first place but then turn into blubbering idiots when it comes to unsubbing themselves. Sue A What all these people have in common is that you never hear from them until they post that they want to unsubscribe. I'm guessing they know perfectly well how to do it but want to make some type of statement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 9, 2001 Report Share Posted January 9, 2001 Well, said, Judith ! This is one of my giant pet peeves about these lists, people are always smart enough to subscribe in the first place but then turn into blubbering idiots when it comes to unsubbing themselves. Sue A What all these people have in common is that you never hear from them until they post that they want to unsubscribe. I'm guessing they know perfectly well how to do it but want to make some type of statement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 9, 2001 Report Share Posted January 9, 2001 > Well, said, Judith ! This is one of my giant pet peeves about these lists, > people are always smart enough to subscribe in the first place but then turn > into blubbering idiots when it comes to unsubbing themselves. > > Sue A > > What all these people have in common is that you never hear from them until they post that they want to unsubscribe. I'm guessing they know perfectly well how to do it but want to make some type of statement. Exactly. Then one person posts and a whole rash of people take up the " please unsubscribe me " thing. It's the kind of indirect, passive aggressive behavior that drives me crazy because then the offender can plead ignorance, innocence, and tell me how horrible I am for not being nice. Well, I'm plenty nice to people who aren't rude to me, thank you very much. judith Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 9, 2001 Report Share Posted January 9, 2001 > Well, said, Judith ! This is one of my giant pet peeves about these lists, > people are always smart enough to subscribe in the first place but then turn > into blubbering idiots when it comes to unsubbing themselves. > > Sue A > > What all these people have in common is that you never hear from them until they post that they want to unsubscribe. I'm guessing they know perfectly well how to do it but want to make some type of statement. Exactly. Then one person posts and a whole rash of people take up the " please unsubscribe me " thing. It's the kind of indirect, passive aggressive behavior that drives me crazy because then the offender can plead ignorance, innocence, and tell me how horrible I am for not being nice. Well, I'm plenty nice to people who aren't rude to me, thank you very much. judith Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 9, 2001 Report Share Posted January 9, 2001 > Well, said, Judith ! This is one of my giant pet peeves about these lists, > people are always smart enough to subscribe in the first place but then turn > into blubbering idiots when it comes to unsubbing themselves. > > Sue A > > What all these people have in common is that you never hear from them until they post that they want to unsubscribe. I'm guessing they know perfectly well how to do it but want to make some type of statement. Exactly. Then one person posts and a whole rash of people take up the " please unsubscribe me " thing. It's the kind of indirect, passive aggressive behavior that drives me crazy because then the offender can plead ignorance, innocence, and tell me how horrible I am for not being nice. Well, I'm plenty nice to people who aren't rude to me, thank you very much. judith Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 9, 2001 Report Share Posted January 9, 2001 - FYI - When you again feel the need to give somebody the "what's what" you should consider passing on your trademark closing of "peace." It make you sound very snotty, much like telling somebody to have a nice day after an exchange of words when both parties know you mean something entirely different. Nate Re: REMOVE YOURSELF Judith Stillwater wrote:> I think it is rude to post "please remove my name" messages to the> entire list. I don't want you here any more than you want to be here,> and you are taking up space that is reserved for people who want to> discuss appropriate issues for this list. This is a specious argument used to justify your anger at Cordap for doingsomething you consider rude. His membership in this group, nor his post askingto be removed, have prevented anyone from interacting here on the list. And,while his post demonstrates a certain ignorance of the procedure forunsubscribing, it's a bit of a stretch to call it rude.> It is the responsibility of the person subscribing to the group to> figure out how to unsubscribe. I've tried being polite, I've tried> being helpful, I've tried being rude in return. I'm sick of taking> care of you. Why have you taken on the responsibility of "taking care of" Cordap? These"please unsubsribe me" request are all to common place on email lists, is everyrequest your responsibility?> REMOVE YOURSELF FROM THE LIST. Do you believe that the above non instructive directive will be moreeffective if typed in all caps? Of course, now that he has been told to "removehimself", (coupled with the information that you don't want him here either) hewill now magically understand how to to do what he has clearly shown he does notno how to do.> IF YOU HAVE SENT THE APPROPRIATE UNSUBSCRIBE EMAIL MESSAGE AND STILL> RECEIVE MESSAGES AFTER 12-24 HOURS, THEN YOU HAVE A REASONABLE EXCUSE> FOR POSTING TO THE LIST.>> Any freakin questions????? Yes, I have a few questions (although I expect the above was a rhetoricalquestion for Cordap). Why are you so angry? If this kind of post annoys you somuch why not simply use your delete key to better advantage? Why do you findsomeone's lack of skills to be socially incorrect? Peace, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 9, 2001 Report Share Posted January 9, 2001 - FYI - When you again feel the need to give somebody the "what's what" you should consider passing on your trademark closing of "peace." It make you sound very snotty, much like telling somebody to have a nice day after an exchange of words when both parties know you mean something entirely different. Nate Re: REMOVE YOURSELF Judith Stillwater wrote:> I think it is rude to post "please remove my name" messages to the> entire list. I don't want you here any more than you want to be here,> and you are taking up space that is reserved for people who want to> discuss appropriate issues for this list. This is a specious argument used to justify your anger at Cordap for doingsomething you consider rude. His membership in this group, nor his post askingto be removed, have prevented anyone from interacting here on the list. And,while his post demonstrates a certain ignorance of the procedure forunsubscribing, it's a bit of a stretch to call it rude.> It is the responsibility of the person subscribing to the group to> figure out how to unsubscribe. I've tried being polite, I've tried> being helpful, I've tried being rude in return. I'm sick of taking> care of you. Why have you taken on the responsibility of "taking care of" Cordap? These"please unsubsribe me" request are all to common place on email lists, is everyrequest your responsibility?> REMOVE YOURSELF FROM THE LIST. Do you believe that the above non instructive directive will be moreeffective if typed in all caps? Of course, now that he has been told to "removehimself", (coupled with the information that you don't want him here either) hewill now magically understand how to to do what he has clearly shown he does notno how to do.> IF YOU HAVE SENT THE APPROPRIATE UNSUBSCRIBE EMAIL MESSAGE AND STILL> RECEIVE MESSAGES AFTER 12-24 HOURS, THEN YOU HAVE A REASONABLE EXCUSE> FOR POSTING TO THE LIST.>> Any freakin questions????? Yes, I have a few questions (although I expect the above was a rhetoricalquestion for Cordap). Why are you so angry? If this kind of post annoys you somuch why not simply use your delete key to better advantage? Why do you findsomeone's lack of skills to be socially incorrect? Peace, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 9, 2001 Report Share Posted January 9, 2001 - FYI - When you again feel the need to give somebody the "what's what" you should consider passing on your trademark closing of "peace." It make you sound very snotty, much like telling somebody to have a nice day after an exchange of words when both parties know you mean something entirely different. Nate Re: REMOVE YOURSELF Judith Stillwater wrote:> I think it is rude to post "please remove my name" messages to the> entire list. I don't want you here any more than you want to be here,> and you are taking up space that is reserved for people who want to> discuss appropriate issues for this list. This is a specious argument used to justify your anger at Cordap for doingsomething you consider rude. His membership in this group, nor his post askingto be removed, have prevented anyone from interacting here on the list. And,while his post demonstrates a certain ignorance of the procedure forunsubscribing, it's a bit of a stretch to call it rude.> It is the responsibility of the person subscribing to the group to> figure out how to unsubscribe. I've tried being polite, I've tried> being helpful, I've tried being rude in return. I'm sick of taking> care of you. Why have you taken on the responsibility of "taking care of" Cordap? These"please unsubsribe me" request are all to common place on email lists, is everyrequest your responsibility?> REMOVE YOURSELF FROM THE LIST. Do you believe that the above non instructive directive will be moreeffective if typed in all caps? Of course, now that he has been told to "removehimself", (coupled with the information that you don't want him here either) hewill now magically understand how to to do what he has clearly shown he does notno how to do.> IF YOU HAVE SENT THE APPROPRIATE UNSUBSCRIBE EMAIL MESSAGE AND STILL> RECEIVE MESSAGES AFTER 12-24 HOURS, THEN YOU HAVE A REASONABLE EXCUSE> FOR POSTING TO THE LIST.>> Any freakin questions????? Yes, I have a few questions (although I expect the above was a rhetoricalquestion for Cordap). Why are you so angry? If this kind of post annoys you somuch why not simply use your delete key to better advantage? Why do you findsomeone's lack of skills to be socially incorrect? Peace, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 9, 2001 Report Share Posted January 9, 2001 > I suppose for > someone who might enjoy being upset, adding another pet peeve would be useful. Kind of like how upset you are about my post? too bad you didn't use your delete key, like you told me to. judith Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 9, 2001 Report Share Posted January 9, 2001 > I suppose for > someone who might enjoy being upset, adding another pet peeve would be useful. Kind of like how upset you are about my post? too bad you didn't use your delete key, like you told me to. judith Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 9, 2001 Report Share Posted January 9, 2001 > I suppose for > someone who might enjoy being upset, adding another pet peeve would be useful. Kind of like how upset you are about my post? too bad you didn't use your delete key, like you told me to. judith Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 9, 2001 Report Share Posted January 9, 2001 uwishtoo@... wrote: ....people are always smart enough to subscribe in the first place but then turn into blubbering idiots when it comes to unsubbing themselves. How do we know if any individual has subscribed themselves to a particular list? While it is likely that most people who send such "unsubsribe" messages to email list have managed to subscribe on their own, some may have had others do this for them. Why do you extrapolate from a minor display of ignorance that the offending posters "turn into blubbering idiots"? How much tolerance is required to say, "Oh, another one" and hit the delete key? I suppose for someone who might enjoy being upset, adding another pet peeve would be useful. Peace, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 9, 2001 Report Share Posted January 9, 2001 uwishtoo@... wrote: ....people are always smart enough to subscribe in the first place but then turn into blubbering idiots when it comes to unsubbing themselves. How do we know if any individual has subscribed themselves to a particular list? While it is likely that most people who send such "unsubsribe" messages to email list have managed to subscribe on their own, some may have had others do this for them. Why do you extrapolate from a minor display of ignorance that the offending posters "turn into blubbering idiots"? How much tolerance is required to say, "Oh, another one" and hit the delete key? I suppose for someone who might enjoy being upset, adding another pet peeve would be useful. Peace, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 9, 2001 Report Share Posted January 9, 2001 Sooo tell me Judith What's really on your mind about this issue? :0) > REMOVE YOURSELF >Any freakin questions????? > >judith Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 9, 2001 Report Share Posted January 9, 2001 Sooo tell me Judith What's really on your mind about this issue? :0) > REMOVE YOURSELF >Any freakin questions????? > >judith Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 9, 2001 Report Share Posted January 9, 2001 Sooo tell me Judith What's really on your mind about this issue? :0) > REMOVE YOURSELF >Any freakin questions????? > >judith Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 9, 2001 Report Share Posted January 9, 2001 Nate s wrote: - FYI - When you again feel the need to give somebody the "what's what" you should consider passing on your trademark closing of "peace." It make you sound very snotty, much like telling somebody to have a nice day after an exchange of words when both parties know you mean something entirely different. Nate Hi Nate and list, Actually, I don't think my comments can be construed as giving someone the "what's what" considering the tone and content of the original post. All things considered I thought I was polite and restrained. However, I would have to agree with your comments regarding my signature. While my intent was to respectfully comment on what I perceived to be an unwarranted attack on Cordap, I can see how someone might take this as an attack. Peace, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 9, 2001 Report Share Posted January 9, 2001 At 06:54 PM 1/9/01 -0800, s wrote: > How do we know if any individual has subscribed themselves to a >particular list? Beause lists are 'confirmed opt-in', meaning when you sign up for a list (by sending the subscribe message) it sends a 'confirm' message to the address. You (or the person whose email was forged in the 'from' of the subscribe request) must reply to that message to actually become subscribed to the list. You can subscribe on the website, but you must be logged in with your egroups password (or, I presume, go through a similar procedure with a 'confirm' message). This is done specifically to prevent net abuse such as signing up people you hate to lots of high-volume mailing lists where they would end up getting a huge volume of messages they didn't ask for. This sort of thing happened enough years ago that all responsible mailing list operators went to some sort of verification system to prevent it. >While it is likely that most people who send such > " unsubsribe " messages >to email list have managed to subscribe on their own, I have no doubt they did. >some may have had others do this for them. No, not unless someone else has their Internet password, in which case they have bigger problems than being signed up to this list without their consent. > Why do you extrapolate from a minor display of ignorance that the >offending posters " turn into blubbering idiots " ? How much tolerance >is required to say, " Oh, another one " and hit the delete key? This is 12-step-free. Love and tolerance of others is not necessarily our code. ----- http://listen.to/benbradley Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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