Re: Help - Heart just started beating VERY slowly and IRREGULARLY

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January 5, 2010

FT4 15.4 (9 - 20)

FT3 5.7 (3.5 - 7.0)

TSH 0.75 (0.5 - 3.6)

No these are NOT normal test results. You had an RT3 problem here

already. ANYTIME T4 is over midrange RT3 is building. You rLOW TSH tells

me oyu had low ferritin then. Thokmas your doctyors did this to you. I

am betting when you first started takign T4 only meds you started making

too much RT3 I also think what oyu experienced was not A-Fib but a panic

attack. This bneing csued by lwo ferritin and too much thyroid for your

body to be able to tolerate due to the low ferritin.

--

Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

January 5, 2010

When they removed T3 and uppd my T4 from 100 mcgf daily to 150 mcg daily, this is theblood sample I got, after a couple of weeks on 150 mcg T4-only (if my memory serves me correct, it sure looks like I got upped on the T4-med from the results!)FT4 22.5FT3 5.3TSH 0.18My TSH was low for 4 years, 0.01, because I was taking 40 mcg T3 along with my 100 mcg T4. It's normal to have a zero-TSH when you take that much T3, right? My Ferritinwas fine through all these years UNTIL 2008 when T3 was removed from me, and T4was first raised, then lowered and lowered with the goal of stopping all meds.Only in 2009 my Ferritin got low, down in the 20-30s.When I first started taking T4-only in 1997, through a private specialist, my life changedfrom being nothing (like now) to Heaven! I lost 100+ lbs, looked AMAZING, and

climbedsome of the tallest mountains in Norway. I went from being an overweight, slow, mentallychallenged (HYPO!!!) person, to becoming some kind of superman! The TACHYCARDIAnever left me. It stayed with me even while taking T4, and later when tadding T3 to the mixin 2004. But other than that, I lived a normal life. I was quite happy. Not 100% healthy,but close to it! Maybe 90%. Maybe 95%. In 2007 it all changed. Stress came to me,and I mean bigtime. Pressure on the chest, stress every day, unnatural stress. I couldsit and watch tv and almost shake from the stress! This change happened only afterI witnessed two girls try to kill themselves, and also try to kill Me. It was horrifying.This was really the point where something happened to my body! (Adrenals?)What I experienced in late January 2008, after having tacycardia every night for weeks,was NOT a panic attack. I've had those before! While horrible to

experience, I knowhow they feel like. This was my heart stopping to beat - Like I said, I know my beats,I feel every heartbeat of my heart, I have done so since becoming sick age 13-14.This was NOT my heart beating hard and fast, like a tachycardia attack, this was my heartactually NOT beating, it was moving SO weakly, and fast, it was tickling like CRAZY(I am telling you, this tickling feeling was something I've never, ever felt before - It felt SOOO wrong! So amazingly wrong and horrible!) - I had fibbrilation, atrial or ventricular even. My heart was NOT beating. I promise God it wasn't beating.I really appreciate you diving into my theories . I just hope I will be able to thank you properly one day. I just hope I'll live on... Hopefully feeling better than This!Arguing with the wife every day, including 2 hours now. She went nuts beause my car wouldn't start (battery is old and dead) - Like everything is my

fault. She knows I am dosing down on my HC from 27.5 to 25.0 mg, but she doesn't care. She just wants to kick my ass badly. I am telling her.. If she doesn't stop I can die. This is how I feel.Divorce next.

FT4 15.4 (9 - 20)

FT3 5.7 (3.5 - 7.0)

TSH 0.75 (0.5 - 3.6)

No these are NOT normal test results. You had an RT3 problem here

already. ANYTIME T4 is over midrange RT3 is building. You rLOW TSH tells

me oyu had low ferritin then. Thokmas your doctyors did this to you. I

am betting when you first started takign T4 only meds you started making

too much RT3 I also think what oyu experienced was not A-Fib but a panic

attack. This bneing csued by lwo ferritin and too much thyroid for your

body to be able to tolerate due to the low ferritin.

January 5, 2010

When they removed T3 and uppd my T4 from 100 mcgf daily to 150 mcg daily, this is theblood sample I got, after a couple of weeks on 150 mcg T4-only (if my memory serves me correct, it sure looks like I got upped on the T4-med from the results!)FT4 22.5FT3 5.3TSH 0.18My TSH was low for 4 years, 0.01, because I was taking 40 mcg T3 along with my 100 mcg T4. It's normal to have a zero-TSH when you take that much T3, right? My Ferritinwas fine through all these years UNTIL 2008 when T3 was removed from me, and T4was first raised, then lowered and lowered with the goal of stopping all meds.Only in 2009 my Ferritin got low, down in the 20-30s.When I first started taking T4-only in 1997, through a private specialist, my life changedfrom being nothing (like now) to Heaven! I lost 100+ lbs, looked AMAZING, and

climbedsome of the tallest mountains in Norway. I went from being an overweight, slow, mentallychallenged (HYPO!!!) person, to becoming some kind of superman! The TACHYCARDIAnever left me. It stayed with me even while taking T4, and later when tadding T3 to the mixin 2004. But other than that, I lived a normal life. I was quite happy. Not 100% healthy,but close to it! Maybe 90%. Maybe 95%. In 2007 it all changed. Stress came to me,and I mean bigtime. Pressure on the chest, stress every day, unnatural stress. I couldsit and watch tv and almost shake from the stress! This change happened only afterI witnessed two girls try to kill themselves, and also try to kill Me. It was horrifying.This was really the point where something happened to my body! (Adrenals?)What I experienced in late January 2008, after having tacycardia every night for weeks,was NOT a panic attack. I've had those before! While horrible to

experience, I knowhow they feel like. This was my heart stopping to beat - Like I said, I know my beats,I feel every heartbeat of my heart, I have done so since becoming sick age 13-14.This was NOT my heart beating hard and fast, like a tachycardia attack, this was my heartactually NOT beating, it was moving SO weakly, and fast, it was tickling like CRAZY(I am telling you, this tickling feeling was something I've never, ever felt before - It felt SOOO wrong! So amazingly wrong and horrible!) - I had fibbrilation, atrial or ventricular even. My heart was NOT beating. I promise God it wasn't beating.I really appreciate you diving into my theories . I just hope I will be able to thank you properly one day. I just hope I'll live on... Hopefully feeling better than This!Arguing with the wife every day, including 2 hours now. She went nuts beause my car wouldn't start (battery is old and dead) - Like everything is my

fault. She knows I am dosing down on my HC from 27.5 to 25.0 mg, but she doesn't care. She just wants to kick my ass badly. I am telling her.. If she doesn't stop I can die. This is how I feel.Divorce next.

FT4 15.4 (9 - 20)

FT3 5.7 (3.5 - 7.0)

TSH 0.75 (0.5 - 3.6)

No these are NOT normal test results. You had an RT3 problem here

already. ANYTIME T4 is over midrange RT3 is building. You rLOW TSH tells

me oyu had low ferritin then. Thokmas your doctyors did this to you. I

am betting when you first started takign T4 only meds you started making

too much RT3 I also think what oyu experienced was not A-Fib but a panic

attack. This bneing csued by lwo ferritin and too much thyroid for your

body to be able to tolerate due to the low ferritin.

January 5, 2010

When they removed T3 and uppd my T4 from 100 mcgf daily to 150 mcg daily, this is theblood sample I got, after a couple of weeks on 150 mcg T4-only (if my memory serves me correct, it sure looks like I got upped on the T4-med from the results!)FT4 22.5FT3 5.3TSH 0.18My TSH was low for 4 years, 0.01, because I was taking 40 mcg T3 along with my 100 mcg T4. It's normal to have a zero-TSH when you take that much T3, right? My Ferritinwas fine through all these years UNTIL 2008 when T3 was removed from me, and T4was first raised, then lowered and lowered with the goal of stopping all meds.Only in 2009 my Ferritin got low, down in the 20-30s.When I first started taking T4-only in 1997, through a private specialist, my life changedfrom being nothing (like now) to Heaven! I lost 100+ lbs, looked AMAZING, and

climbedsome of the tallest mountains in Norway. I went from being an overweight, slow, mentallychallenged (HYPO!!!) person, to becoming some kind of superman! The TACHYCARDIAnever left me. It stayed with me even while taking T4, and later when tadding T3 to the mixin 2004. But other than that, I lived a normal life. I was quite happy. Not 100% healthy,but close to it! Maybe 90%. Maybe 95%. In 2007 it all changed. Stress came to me,and I mean bigtime. Pressure on the chest, stress every day, unnatural stress. I couldsit and watch tv and almost shake from the stress! This change happened only afterI witnessed two girls try to kill themselves, and also try to kill Me. It was horrifying.This was really the point where something happened to my body! (Adrenals?)What I experienced in late January 2008, after having tacycardia every night for weeks,was NOT a panic attack. I've had those before! While horrible to

experience, I knowhow they feel like. This was my heart stopping to beat - Like I said, I know my beats,I feel every heartbeat of my heart, I have done so since becoming sick age 13-14.This was NOT my heart beating hard and fast, like a tachycardia attack, this was my heartactually NOT beating, it was moving SO weakly, and fast, it was tickling like CRAZY(I am telling you, this tickling feeling was something I've never, ever felt before - It felt SOOO wrong! So amazingly wrong and horrible!) - I had fibbrilation, atrial or ventricular even. My heart was NOT beating. I promise God it wasn't beating.I really appreciate you diving into my theories . I just hope I will be able to thank you properly one day. I just hope I'll live on... Hopefully feeling better than This!Arguing with the wife every day, including 2 hours now. She went nuts beause my car wouldn't start (battery is old and dead) - Like everything is my

fault. She knows I am dosing down on my HC from 27.5 to 25.0 mg, but she doesn't care. She just wants to kick my ass badly. I am telling her.. If she doesn't stop I can die. This is how I feel.Divorce next.

FT4 15.4 (9 - 20)

FT3 5.7 (3.5 - 7.0)

TSH 0.75 (0.5 - 3.6)

No these are NOT normal test results. You had an RT3 problem here

already. ANYTIME T4 is over midrange RT3 is building. You rLOW TSH tells

me oyu had low ferritin then. Thokmas your doctyors did this to you. I

am betting when you first started takign T4 only meds you started making

too much RT3 I also think what oyu experienced was not A-Fib but a panic

attack. This bneing csued by lwo ferritin and too much thyroid for your

body to be able to tolerate due to the low ferritin.

January 5, 2010

" My TSH was low for 4 years, 0.01, because I was taking 40 mcg T3 along

with my 100 mcg T4. It's normal to have a zero-TSH when you take that

much T3, right? My Ferritin

was fine through all these years UNTIL 2008 when T3 was removed from me,

and T4

was first raised, then lowered and lowered with the goal of stopping all

meds. "

DO oyu knwo your ferritin was fine from labs? NO it is NOT normal to

have that low a TSH form 40mcg T3 but the two together is more than many

people need. The fact oyu needed it tells me oyu had conversion problems

then. And the supressed TSH tells me also your body was not able to use

the thyroid then.

--

Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

January 5, 2010

" My TSH was low for 4 years, 0.01, because I was taking 40 mcg T3 along

with my 100 mcg T4. It's normal to have a zero-TSH when you take that

much T3, right? My Ferritin

was fine through all these years UNTIL 2008 when T3 was removed from me,

and T4

was first raised, then lowered and lowered with the goal of stopping all

meds. "

DO oyu knwo your ferritin was fine from labs? NO it is NOT normal to

have that low a TSH form 40mcg T3 but the two together is more than many

people need. The fact oyu needed it tells me oyu had conversion problems

then. And the supressed TSH tells me also your body was not able to use

the thyroid then.

--

Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

January 5, 2010

" My TSH was low for 4 years, 0.01, because I was taking 40 mcg T3 along

with my 100 mcg T4. It's normal to have a zero-TSH when you take that

much T3, right? My Ferritin

was fine through all these years UNTIL 2008 when T3 was removed from me,

and T4

was first raised, then lowered and lowered with the goal of stopping all

meds. "

DO oyu knwo your ferritin was fine from labs? NO it is NOT normal to

have that low a TSH form 40mcg T3 but the two together is more than many

people need. The fact oyu needed it tells me oyu had conversion problems

then. And the supressed TSH tells me also your body was not able to use

the thyroid then.

--

Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

January 5, 2010

Dear and other interested people, here are ALL (minus a few, but I think I got the most of them!) my thyroid blood sample results from approx. when I the horrible endosI met in janury 2008 started to remove my thyroid meds because "I never needed them".I have also added the first thyroid sample EVER taken of my, in 1997, when I was VERYfat and had all the hypo symptoms (even more symptoms then now), and a couple oftests from 2007, the year when SOMETHING happened to my body (stress came to me!).Notice how TSH raises through 2008 and 2009 as I take less and less T4. I stoppedtaking T3 in late February 2008. The rest of just T4-only until MID-OCTOBER 2009when I started adding T3 to my T4 again, then sweitched from T3 to ERFA Thyroid inlate November 2009, then finally, started T3-only in mid-December 2009. Just so

youcan compare the numbers with facts!Hope you get the date-format we're using in Europe! It's DAY, MONTH and YEAR. In that order.BLOOD SAMPLE RESULT-LOG with a few comments of dose-changes along the way:2/4/1997 - Anti-TPO <500, TRAS <527/7/2007 - FT4 10.0, FT3 6.0, TSH 0.0117/12/2007 - FT4 11.9, FT3 8.6, TSH 0.016/1/2008 - FT3 19.0 TSH 0.01Removal of 40 mcg T3 initiated - Upping of T4 from 100 to 150 mcg daily.29/2/2008 - TSH 0.1540 mcg T3 daily removed. 150 mcg T4 only goes on.13/03/2008 - FT4 22.5, FT3 5.3, TSH 0.18T4 down to 125/150 every other day.10/6/2008 - FT4 24, TSH 0.19T4 down to 125 daily.16/6/2008 - FT4 16.8, FT3 6.8, TSH 0.3923/6/2008 - FT4 19.4, FT3 6.4, TSH 0.7627/6/2008 - FT4 19.1, FT3 5.1, TSH 0.5128/6/2008 - FT4

20.0, TSH 0.42T4 down to 125/100 every other day5/7/2008 - FT4 18, TSH 0.3614/7/2008 - FT3 15.0, FT3 3.9, TSH 0.5624/7/2008 - FT4 19, FT3 5.9 TSH 0.46 ca.15/8/2008 - FT4 16.0, FT3 5.5, TSH 0.46T4 down to 100 daily.15/9/2008 - FT4 19, FT3 5.8 TSH 0.3915/9/2008 - FT4 16.5, FT3 5.8, TSH 0.4016/9/2008 - FT4 15.6, FT3 6.1 TSH 0.4119/9/2008 - FT4 16.0, FT3 3.7 TSH 0.74 / homocystein 11.0??/??/2008 - FT4 15.2, FT3 6.4, TSH 0.5924/10/2008 - FT4 17.7, FT3 4.7 TSH 0.5006/11/2008 - FT4 17.5, FT3 6.2 TSH 0.91T4 down to 100/75 every other day.01/12/2008 - FT4 17.7, FT3 5.2, TSH 0.4823/12/2008 - FT4 15.5, FT3 7.6, TSH 0.60 ca.5/1/2009 - FT4 15.6, FT3 6.7, TSH

0.6113/1/2009 - FT4 17.0, FT3 4.5, TSH 0.6522/1/2009 - FT4 15.2, FT3 6.2, TSH 0.62T4 down to 75 daily.30/1/2009 - FT4 15.4, FT3 7.0, TSH 1.06, tyroxin 13016/2/2009 - FT4 12.4, FT3 5.5 ca., TSH 0.76 ca.26/2/2009 - FT4 14.3, FT3 5.6, TSH 0.76T4 down to 75/50 every other day.6/3/2009 - FT4 15.0, FT3 6.4, TSH 0.7516/3/2009 - FT4 16.1, FT3 5.0, TSH 0.80, Trijodtyronin 1.9, Tyroxin 12931/3/2009 - FT4 15.4, FT3 5.7, TSH 0.7516/4/2009 - FT4 14.1 (11.0-23.), FT3 4.9 (3.5-7.0), TSH 1.21 (0.5-3.6)I get a new specialist in Finland. She tells me to NOT go down further with T4.I change to Her treatment only - I stop using the public endos of Norway completely.I up the dose to 75 mcg T4 daily.8/5/2009 - FT4 14.5, FT3 6.2, TSH 0.98, TRAS <1We start Hydrocortisone, 2.5 mg, I feel better already the first day. Up to to 20 mg daily,the

next 5 months.26/6/2009 - FT4 13.8, FT3 5.8, TSH 0.94I do 100 mcg T4 one day pr. week, 75 mcg T4 daily the rest of the days.I stay on this dose for a while. We let HC heal the adrenals a bit before changing meds.17/7/2009 - FT4 17.0, FT3 4.7, TSH 0.55 ca.4/8/2009 - FT4 17.0, FT3 5.0, TSH 0.676/8/2009 - FT4 17.3, FT3 7.0, TSH 0.5719/8/2009 - FT4 16.2, FT3 5.9, TSH 0.60, Tyroxin 119, Trijodtyronin 1.9, rT3 0.4110/9/2009 - FT4 14.5, FT3 6.2, TSH 1.04, rT3 0.43 (ratio mellom FT3 og rT3: 14.41)1/10/2009 - FT4 14.4, FT3 6.2, TSH 0.94, Tyroxin 118, Trijodtyronin 2.1Start taking 5 mcg T3 in addition to the 75 mcg T4 daily.19/10/2009 - FT4 13.0, FT3 7.1, TSH 1.41, rT3 0.38 (ratio mellom FT3 og rT3: 18.8)9/11/2009 - FT4 14.0, FT3 5.9, TSH 0.76, Tyroxin 117, Trijod 2.2, rT3 0.38I remove the 5 mcg T3 and go down to 50 mcg T4 daily, and add 1/2 grain ERFA Thyroid.I find this yahoo

group!A few weeks later I remove the T4 completely, and up to 1 grain ERFA Thyroid daily.After 1 week on 1 grain ERFA Thyroid, I make the switch directly to T3-only, 10 mcg daily.I up to 15 mcg daily, but get pressure on my chest. As you might remember. Do 10 mcgagain for a few days. Then up to 15. No more pressure on the chest. Up my iron to 100 mg daily as well. I started taking 25 mg iron daily in August/September. Been on and off theiron supplement. Upped it to 50 mg iron 1 month ago, then 75, then 100 mg iron nowin the past two weeks or so.30/11/2009 - FT4 12.6, FT3 6.4, 1.20, Thyroxin 125, Trijodtyronin 2.3, rT3 - 0.43 (ratio FT3 og rT3= 14.9)I up my HC from 20 mg daily (since June) to 22.5, 25.0 and finally 27.5, which I havebeen on for about 3 weeks til yesterday (4th of January 2010) when I dosed down to 25.0 mg HC daily to remove headache.31/12/2009 - FT4 11.5, FT3 5.6, TSH 1.42And here we are

today! Any eureka's appearing throughout this small log? Thank God Iwrite logs of what's going on with my meds and health, results etc.

January 5, 2010

Dear and other interested people, here are ALL (minus a few, but I think I got the most of them!) my thyroid blood sample results from approx. when I the horrible endosI met in janury 2008 started to remove my thyroid meds because "I never needed them".I have also added the first thyroid sample EVER taken of my, in 1997, when I was VERYfat and had all the hypo symptoms (even more symptoms then now), and a couple oftests from 2007, the year when SOMETHING happened to my body (stress came to me!).Notice how TSH raises through 2008 and 2009 as I take less and less T4. I stoppedtaking T3 in late February 2008. The rest of just T4-only until MID-OCTOBER 2009when I started adding T3 to my T4 again, then sweitched from T3 to ERFA Thyroid inlate November 2009, then finally, started T3-only in mid-December 2009. Just so

youcan compare the numbers with facts!Hope you get the date-format we're using in Europe! It's DAY, MONTH and YEAR. In that order.BLOOD SAMPLE RESULT-LOG with a few comments of dose-changes along the way:2/4/1997 - Anti-TPO <500, TRAS <527/7/2007 - FT4 10.0, FT3 6.0, TSH 0.0117/12/2007 - FT4 11.9, FT3 8.6, TSH 0.016/1/2008 - FT3 19.0 TSH 0.01Removal of 40 mcg T3 initiated - Upping of T4 from 100 to 150 mcg daily.29/2/2008 - TSH 0.1540 mcg T3 daily removed. 150 mcg T4 only goes on.13/03/2008 - FT4 22.5, FT3 5.3, TSH 0.18T4 down to 125/150 every other day.10/6/2008 - FT4 24, TSH 0.19T4 down to 125 daily.16/6/2008 - FT4 16.8, FT3 6.8, TSH 0.3923/6/2008 - FT4 19.4, FT3 6.4, TSH 0.7627/6/2008 - FT4 19.1, FT3 5.1, TSH 0.5128/6/2008 - FT4

20.0, TSH 0.42T4 down to 125/100 every other day5/7/2008 - FT4 18, TSH 0.3614/7/2008 - FT3 15.0, FT3 3.9, TSH 0.5624/7/2008 - FT4 19, FT3 5.9 TSH 0.46 ca.15/8/2008 - FT4 16.0, FT3 5.5, TSH 0.46T4 down to 100 daily.15/9/2008 - FT4 19, FT3 5.8 TSH 0.3915/9/2008 - FT4 16.5, FT3 5.8, TSH 0.4016/9/2008 - FT4 15.6, FT3 6.1 TSH 0.4119/9/2008 - FT4 16.0, FT3 3.7 TSH 0.74 / homocystein 11.0??/??/2008 - FT4 15.2, FT3 6.4, TSH 0.5924/10/2008 - FT4 17.7, FT3 4.7 TSH 0.5006/11/2008 - FT4 17.5, FT3 6.2 TSH 0.91T4 down to 100/75 every other day.01/12/2008 - FT4 17.7, FT3 5.2, TSH 0.4823/12/2008 - FT4 15.5, FT3 7.6, TSH 0.60 ca.5/1/2009 - FT4 15.6, FT3 6.7, TSH

0.6113/1/2009 - FT4 17.0, FT3 4.5, TSH 0.6522/1/2009 - FT4 15.2, FT3 6.2, TSH 0.62T4 down to 75 daily.30/1/2009 - FT4 15.4, FT3 7.0, TSH 1.06, tyroxin 13016/2/2009 - FT4 12.4, FT3 5.5 ca., TSH 0.76 ca.26/2/2009 - FT4 14.3, FT3 5.6, TSH 0.76T4 down to 75/50 every other day.6/3/2009 - FT4 15.0, FT3 6.4, TSH 0.7516/3/2009 - FT4 16.1, FT3 5.0, TSH 0.80, Trijodtyronin 1.9, Tyroxin 12931/3/2009 - FT4 15.4, FT3 5.7, TSH 0.7516/4/2009 - FT4 14.1 (11.0-23.), FT3 4.9 (3.5-7.0), TSH 1.21 (0.5-3.6)I get a new specialist in Finland. She tells me to NOT go down further with T4.I change to Her treatment only - I stop using the public endos of Norway completely.I up the dose to 75 mcg T4 daily.8/5/2009 - FT4 14.5, FT3 6.2, TSH 0.98, TRAS <1We start Hydrocortisone, 2.5 mg, I feel better already the first day. Up to to 20 mg daily,the

next 5 months.26/6/2009 - FT4 13.8, FT3 5.8, TSH 0.94I do 100 mcg T4 one day pr. week, 75 mcg T4 daily the rest of the days.I stay on this dose for a while. We let HC heal the adrenals a bit before changing meds.17/7/2009 - FT4 17.0, FT3 4.7, TSH 0.55 ca.4/8/2009 - FT4 17.0, FT3 5.0, TSH 0.676/8/2009 - FT4 17.3, FT3 7.0, TSH 0.5719/8/2009 - FT4 16.2, FT3 5.9, TSH 0.60, Tyroxin 119, Trijodtyronin 1.9, rT3 0.4110/9/2009 - FT4 14.5, FT3 6.2, TSH 1.04, rT3 0.43 (ratio mellom FT3 og rT3: 14.41)1/10/2009 - FT4 14.4, FT3 6.2, TSH 0.94, Tyroxin 118, Trijodtyronin 2.1Start taking 5 mcg T3 in addition to the 75 mcg T4 daily.19/10/2009 - FT4 13.0, FT3 7.1, TSH 1.41, rT3 0.38 (ratio mellom FT3 og rT3: 18.8)9/11/2009 - FT4 14.0, FT3 5.9, TSH 0.76, Tyroxin 117, Trijod 2.2, rT3 0.38I remove the 5 mcg T3 and go down to 50 mcg T4 daily, and add 1/2 grain ERFA Thyroid.I find this yahoo

group!A few weeks later I remove the T4 completely, and up to 1 grain ERFA Thyroid daily.After 1 week on 1 grain ERFA Thyroid, I make the switch directly to T3-only, 10 mcg daily.I up to 15 mcg daily, but get pressure on my chest. As you might remember. Do 10 mcgagain for a few days. Then up to 15. No more pressure on the chest. Up my iron to 100 mg daily as well. I started taking 25 mg iron daily in August/September. Been on and off theiron supplement. Upped it to 50 mg iron 1 month ago, then 75, then 100 mg iron nowin the past two weeks or so.30/11/2009 - FT4 12.6, FT3 6.4, 1.20, Thyroxin 125, Trijodtyronin 2.3, rT3 - 0.43 (ratio FT3 og rT3= 14.9)I up my HC from 20 mg daily (since June) to 22.5, 25.0 and finally 27.5, which I havebeen on for about 3 weeks til yesterday (4th of January 2010) when I dosed down to 25.0 mg HC daily to remove headache.31/12/2009 - FT4 11.5, FT3 5.6, TSH 1.42And here we are

today! Any eureka's appearing throughout this small log? Thank God Iwrite logs of what's going on with my meds and health, results etc.

January 5, 2010

Dear and other interested people, here are ALL (minus a few, but I think I got the most of them!) my thyroid blood sample results from approx. when I the horrible endosI met in janury 2008 started to remove my thyroid meds because "I never needed them".I have also added the first thyroid sample EVER taken of my, in 1997, when I was VERYfat and had all the hypo symptoms (even more symptoms then now), and a couple oftests from 2007, the year when SOMETHING happened to my body (stress came to me!).Notice how TSH raises through 2008 and 2009 as I take less and less T4. I stoppedtaking T3 in late February 2008. The rest of just T4-only until MID-OCTOBER 2009when I started adding T3 to my T4 again, then sweitched from T3 to ERFA Thyroid inlate November 2009, then finally, started T3-only in mid-December 2009. Just so

youcan compare the numbers with facts!Hope you get the date-format we're using in Europe! It's DAY, MONTH and YEAR. In that order.BLOOD SAMPLE RESULT-LOG with a few comments of dose-changes along the way:2/4/1997 - Anti-TPO <500, TRAS <527/7/2007 - FT4 10.0, FT3 6.0, TSH 0.0117/12/2007 - FT4 11.9, FT3 8.6, TSH 0.016/1/2008 - FT3 19.0 TSH 0.01Removal of 40 mcg T3 initiated - Upping of T4 from 100 to 150 mcg daily.29/2/2008 - TSH 0.1540 mcg T3 daily removed. 150 mcg T4 only goes on.13/03/2008 - FT4 22.5, FT3 5.3, TSH 0.18T4 down to 125/150 every other day.10/6/2008 - FT4 24, TSH 0.19T4 down to 125 daily.16/6/2008 - FT4 16.8, FT3 6.8, TSH 0.3923/6/2008 - FT4 19.4, FT3 6.4, TSH 0.7627/6/2008 - FT4 19.1, FT3 5.1, TSH 0.5128/6/2008 - FT4

20.0, TSH 0.42T4 down to 125/100 every other day5/7/2008 - FT4 18, TSH 0.3614/7/2008 - FT3 15.0, FT3 3.9, TSH 0.5624/7/2008 - FT4 19, FT3 5.9 TSH 0.46 ca.15/8/2008 - FT4 16.0, FT3 5.5, TSH 0.46T4 down to 100 daily.15/9/2008 - FT4 19, FT3 5.8 TSH 0.3915/9/2008 - FT4 16.5, FT3 5.8, TSH 0.4016/9/2008 - FT4 15.6, FT3 6.1 TSH 0.4119/9/2008 - FT4 16.0, FT3 3.7 TSH 0.74 / homocystein 11.0??/??/2008 - FT4 15.2, FT3 6.4, TSH 0.5924/10/2008 - FT4 17.7, FT3 4.7 TSH 0.5006/11/2008 - FT4 17.5, FT3 6.2 TSH 0.91T4 down to 100/75 every other day.01/12/2008 - FT4 17.7, FT3 5.2, TSH 0.4823/12/2008 - FT4 15.5, FT3 7.6, TSH 0.60 ca.5/1/2009 - FT4 15.6, FT3 6.7, TSH

0.6113/1/2009 - FT4 17.0, FT3 4.5, TSH 0.6522/1/2009 - FT4 15.2, FT3 6.2, TSH 0.62T4 down to 75 daily.30/1/2009 - FT4 15.4, FT3 7.0, TSH 1.06, tyroxin 13016/2/2009 - FT4 12.4, FT3 5.5 ca., TSH 0.76 ca.26/2/2009 - FT4 14.3, FT3 5.6, TSH 0.76T4 down to 75/50 every other day.6/3/2009 - FT4 15.0, FT3 6.4, TSH 0.7516/3/2009 - FT4 16.1, FT3 5.0, TSH 0.80, Trijodtyronin 1.9, Tyroxin 12931/3/2009 - FT4 15.4, FT3 5.7, TSH 0.7516/4/2009 - FT4 14.1 (11.0-23.), FT3 4.9 (3.5-7.0), TSH 1.21 (0.5-3.6)I get a new specialist in Finland. She tells me to NOT go down further with T4.I change to Her treatment only - I stop using the public endos of Norway completely.I up the dose to 75 mcg T4 daily.8/5/2009 - FT4 14.5, FT3 6.2, TSH 0.98, TRAS <1We start Hydrocortisone, 2.5 mg, I feel better already the first day. Up to to 20 mg daily,the

next 5 months.26/6/2009 - FT4 13.8, FT3 5.8, TSH 0.94I do 100 mcg T4 one day pr. week, 75 mcg T4 daily the rest of the days.I stay on this dose for a while. We let HC heal the adrenals a bit before changing meds.17/7/2009 - FT4 17.0, FT3 4.7, TSH 0.55 ca.4/8/2009 - FT4 17.0, FT3 5.0, TSH 0.676/8/2009 - FT4 17.3, FT3 7.0, TSH 0.5719/8/2009 - FT4 16.2, FT3 5.9, TSH 0.60, Tyroxin 119, Trijodtyronin 1.9, rT3 0.4110/9/2009 - FT4 14.5, FT3 6.2, TSH 1.04, rT3 0.43 (ratio mellom FT3 og rT3: 14.41)1/10/2009 - FT4 14.4, FT3 6.2, TSH 0.94, Tyroxin 118, Trijodtyronin 2.1Start taking 5 mcg T3 in addition to the 75 mcg T4 daily.19/10/2009 - FT4 13.0, FT3 7.1, TSH 1.41, rT3 0.38 (ratio mellom FT3 og rT3: 18.8)9/11/2009 - FT4 14.0, FT3 5.9, TSH 0.76, Tyroxin 117, Trijod 2.2, rT3 0.38I remove the 5 mcg T3 and go down to 50 mcg T4 daily, and add 1/2 grain ERFA Thyroid.I find this yahoo

group!A few weeks later I remove the T4 completely, and up to 1 grain ERFA Thyroid daily.After 1 week on 1 grain ERFA Thyroid, I make the switch directly to T3-only, 10 mcg daily.I up to 15 mcg daily, but get pressure on my chest. As you might remember. Do 10 mcgagain for a few days. Then up to 15. No more pressure on the chest. Up my iron to 100 mg daily as well. I started taking 25 mg iron daily in August/September. Been on and off theiron supplement. Upped it to 50 mg iron 1 month ago, then 75, then 100 mg iron nowin the past two weeks or so.30/11/2009 - FT4 12.6, FT3 6.4, 1.20, Thyroxin 125, Trijodtyronin 2.3, rT3 - 0.43 (ratio FT3 og rT3= 14.9)I up my HC from 20 mg daily (since June) to 22.5, 25.0 and finally 27.5, which I havebeen on for about 3 weeks til yesterday (4th of January 2010) when I dosed down to 25.0 mg HC daily to remove headache.31/12/2009 - FT4 11.5, FT3 5.6, TSH 1.42And here we are

today! Any eureka's appearing throughout this small log? Thank God Iwrite logs of what's going on with my meds and health, results etc.

January 5, 2010

Hmmm. Interesting. I remember my Ferritin was good. From the 80s up to over 100. I candig in my archives and look for Ferritin from 2008 and down if you want me to. To be sureof this!To tell you what happened, very shortly: I was on approx. 125 mcg T4 daily from 1997to 2004. In 2003 I worked every day and got very tired. I didn't eat anything else thanBig Mac's (yay for my intelligence!) at the time I was working, cause I had no time to eatit seemed back then. I got all burnt out and went to my specialist at the time. I used himfor 10 years. 1997 top 2007. This is the man who saved my life with T4 in 1997 when noother doctors said I had any thyroid issues at all! They said I was healthy and hadmental issues. I was almost 300 lbs at the time. I was NOT healthy. SOMETHING waswrong. I had all the hypothyroid symptoms.

And from the first blood sample in 1997,you can see that I had within range results. Based on that, I got no meds from any endosor docs. ONLY the private specialist could give me T4. He did. And my life CHANGEDso much my mother cried after a few weeks seeing how I changed on T4! I reallygot my life back on T4. I lost ALL my teens to Hypo (or whatever it was) but started livingfrom age 19 and up! A 12 year old in a 20 year old body! It was not the easiest thing to do,but BOY did I feel and LOOK great!!! :)My point is (I love to write! I always write too much! SORRY!) that in 2004, I told myspecialist that I had read about T4/T3-combo treatment and suggested for HIM that I couldtry it. He accepted my suggestion and gace me T3. I was put "straight" on 40 mcg T3daily. Ok, we might have started lower, but I can only remember taking this amount.He is not an idiot, so I guess he upped the dose in a way!I

am NOT SURE if I felt ANY difference after adding T3. But it was MY idea to add it.I read in a magazine that many people feel much better on T3/T4-combo. So I tried it.MAYBE IT WAS A MISTAKE? Maybe I changed the course of destiny, and it's MY FAULTthat I am sitting here sick as lard right now........................ Maybe I should've sticked toT4-only?I do believe what most patients are saying: Synthetic T4 is not the best med for Hypothyroidism! I wish I could've taken ARMOUR (the original) from 1997 and up....I would probably have been healthy this day today if I did!You are really getting all the details about my condition now Val. And I thank you from the bottom of my tired heart that you are writing to me. Thank you, and thank you all for caring!Subject: Re: Re: Help - Heart just started beating VERY slowly and IRREGULARLYTo: RT3_T3 Date: Tuesday, January 5, 2010, 1:26 PM

"My TSH was low for 4 years, 0.01, because I was taking 40 mcg T3 along

with my 100 mcg T4. It's normal to have a zero-TSH when you take that

much T3, right? My Ferritin

was fine through all these years UNTIL 2008 when T3 was removed from me,

and T4

was first raised, then lowered and lowered with the goal of stopping all

meds."

DO oyu knwo your ferritin was fine from labs? NO it is NOT normal to

have that low a TSH form 40mcg T3 but the two together is more than many

people need. The fact oyu needed it tells me oyu had conversion problems

then. And the supressed TSH tells me also your body was not able to use

the thyroid then.

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January 5, 2010

I htnk adding the T3 was the right thing to do BUT he shoudl have

reduced T4 whne he idd it. As you got s much more T3 then T4 went too

high and started the Reve4se T3 problem and here oyu are. Once wiht high

RT3 and sitl constantly feeidng it wiht high T4 levels your T3 INSIDE

your cells went lower and lower and possibly causd the low ferritin. Dr

Broda lectured abotu lwo thyrodi causing ferritn to drop MANY

years ago in and NO doctors seemed ot have picked up on this. I have

cassette tapes of one of his lectures that included this informaiton. I

can;t remember if it si in his book or not. It has been YEARS since I

read that book! LOL

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