Re: Meaghan*I'm sooooooooo mad!!!!!!!!!!

May 31, 2003

Thanks Gena, He's actually spent last night here for the first time

since Christmas and things are going great!!!! Meaghan

>

> Meaghan,

> I don't recall the original either. Sorry about that. Been hitting

> delete to much lately, sorry. I would never be disgusted about it.

Just

> feel for you. No parent wants to be in that position. It sounds

like it

> has been handled very well and your son is getting the help he

needs.

> Hang in there and we are here if you want to vent anytime. After

all,

> even if something is " off topic " it really isn't because whatever

is

> going on in our life does effect our weight loss efforts or

maintenance

> efforts.

>

> Take care,

> Gena

>

> > I never did see the original post. I probably skipped it by

> > accident. I am not disgusted. I think that would be so tough to

> > deal with as a parent because both of your babies are involved.

> > Wow. You must be so strong, and I think you are doing a wonderful

> > job with a crappy crappy situation.

> >

> > Hugs,

> >

>

May 31, 2003

Thanks Gena, He's actually spent last night here for the first time

since Christmas and things are going great!!!! Meaghan

>

> Meaghan,

> I don't recall the original either. Sorry about that. Been hitting

> delete to much lately, sorry. I would never be disgusted about it.

Just

> feel for you. No parent wants to be in that position. It sounds

like it

> has been handled very well and your son is getting the help he

needs.

> Hang in there and we are here if you want to vent anytime. After

all,

> even if something is " off topic " it really isn't because whatever

is

> going on in our life does effect our weight loss efforts or

maintenance

> efforts.

>

> Take care,

> Gena

>

> > I never did see the original post. I probably skipped it by

> > accident. I am not disgusted. I think that would be so tough to

> > deal with as a parent because both of your babies are involved.

> > Wow. You must be so strong, and I think you are doing a wonderful

> > job with a crappy crappy situation.

> >

> > Hugs,

> >

>

May 31, 2003

If I ever get 1 day to stay home and actualy do a few things around

here...day #2 I get to myself I'll have to come visit. I must warn

you...I need very explicit directions if you are not 15 mints from my

house. (Oh, and I don't so that north south thing...I like to keep

it at the left right kind of thing. LOL)

Ang

> -Ang, You're probably right!!!! We'll have to do that sometime.

> From where I live it only takes about 40 minutes to get to Valley

> Park, that's where my best friend lives. I still can't drive

though,

> I can sit in the car if I sit kinda sideways, but that doesn't make

> for good driving. My hubby is so tired of driving me places. I

told

> him last night that I was so sorry for intentionally throwing

myself

> down the stairs just to inconvenience him. That would be awesome

to

> meet you in person though. Meaghan-- In

> weightlossbuddies2 , " " <amvdhrjr@n...> wrote:

> > Meaghan,

> > You are so close to me! I'm down between Fenton and Arnold. I'd

> bet

> > we could meet in the middle and drive less than 20 minutes :-)

> > Ang

> >

> > > -Thanks so much Jinx, I can't believe how awesome you all

> > are....how

> > > about everybody packing up and moving to Ofallon. We can all

> deal

> > > with the weight issues and life together, face to face. You

guys

> > are

> > > the best!!!!!!! Meaghan-- In

> > > weightlossbuddies2 , " Jinx A. "

> > <jinxjohn@a...>

> > > wrote:

> > > > Meaghan, I am so sorry that you had to go through this and it

> is

> > > not a reflection of your parenting. Shame on your

homeschooling

> > > group for being so reactionary and not being better informed.

I

> > hope

> > > you are together soon and that you are able to put it behind

> you.

> > My

> > > thoughts and prayers are with you. Jx.

> > > > Re: Meaghan*I'm sooooooooo

> > > mad!!!!!!!!!!

> > > >

> > > > -Shan, Thank you thank you thank you....now you made me

cry

> > > though.

> > > > I know exactly what you're talking about. See it's always

> been

> > a

> > > > fear of mine because I was raped. (By Zachary's sperm

donor

> > > > infact.) See, everything happens for a reason...if I

hadn't

> of

> > > been

> > > > asked to work the night shift, I wouldn't of been walking

out

> > > alone

> > > > at night, I wouldn't of had to live through that, but then

I

> > also

> > > > wouldn't have my son. When I found out I was preggo it

made

> > > > everything all right. But because of how he was conceived

> I've

> > > > always feared that maybe some of that mans traits were

passed

> > to

> > > > him. (The police and the counselors swear that isn't the

> case

> > > here

> > > > though....pray they're right.) Then I had to do a 6 month

> > > clinical

> > > > at Fulton Prison and guess what I had to lead...none other

> then

> > > the

> > > > sexual pediophile program. There's nothing scarier...and I

> > guess

> > > > that's where I know I failed my baby. We've talked about

> > things

> > > like

> > > > her body and that nobody has a right to touch her but I

never

> > > went in

> > > > to great detail because I thought she was safe. She's

always

> > > with

> > > > me. I even homeschool her. Guess I screwed up in the

worst

> > > possible

> > > > way. Thanks so much for caring, I know exactely what kind

of

> > > info

> > > > your reading. Meaghan-- In

> weightlossbuddies2 ,

> > > > girlnamedshannon@a... wrote:

> > > > > In a message dated 5/26/2003 9:54:38 AM Central Daylight

> > Time,

> > > > > meaghandionne@y... writes:

> > > > >

> > > > > > He really is a wonderful kid though, and we'll all pull

> > > through

> > > > this too.

> > > > > > He won't ever sleep on the same floor as her again

> though.

> > > We

> > > > are currently

> > > > > > turning the dining room into a bedroom for him. I

never

> > had

> > > > gotten my fancy

> > > > > > table anyway, it was always just a play room. Meaghan--

-

> > > > >

> > > > > Oooooo wowser M...I am so sorry for your daughter and

> > actually

> > > for

> > > > your son

> > > > > as well. I am CERTAIN the initial post about this got

ate

> > by

> > > > Yahoo b/c nobody

> > > > > here is ''disgusted'' with you or your family hon. I am

> > really

> > > glad

> > > > I asked

> > > > > now b/c you should not have been made to feel that way

> > > > intentionally or not!!

> > > > >

> > > > > I am currently reading the first of many required books

in

> my

> > > > clinical social

> > > > > work curriculum and the name of it is ''Predators:

> > Pedophiles,

> > > > Rapists, and

> > > > > Other Sex Offenders: Who They Are, How They Operate, and

> How

> > We

> > > Can

> > > > Protect

> > > > > Ourselves and Our Children'' by Salter. Its a

> veryyyyyy

> > > creepy

> > > > and

> > > > > veryyyyyy troubling book but also something I feel should

> be

> > > > required reading for

> > > > > anyone with children. Gruesome? Frightening? Stuff

> nightmares

> > > are

> > > > made of?

> > > > > YES..but also ALOT of good information.

> > > > >

> > > > > Sorry I didnt mean to digress but honestly I think you

and

> > your

> > > > family are

> > > > > handling the situation great and given your sons age I

> agree

> > > that

> > > > at worst it

> > > > > was probably childish experimentation. Not that it makes

it

> > any

> > > > easier for your

> > > > > babygirl but sometimes things happen and all you can do

is

> > the

> > > best

> > > > you can do

> > > > > and I think you are all doing exactly that. KUDOS to you

> for

> > > > handling it so

> > > > > well and so swiftly and I will definately be keeping you

> and

> > > your

> > > > babies in my

> > > > > thoughts hon.

> > > > >

> > > > > HUGS!!!

> > > > > Shan

> > > > >

May 31, 2003

If I ever get 1 day to stay home and actualy do a few things around

here...day #2 I get to myself I'll have to come visit. I must warn

you...I need very explicit directions if you are not 15 mints from my

house. (Oh, and I don't so that north south thing...I like to keep

it at the left right kind of thing. LOL)

Ang

> -Ang, You're probably right!!!! We'll have to do that sometime.

> From where I live it only takes about 40 minutes to get to Valley

> Park, that's where my best friend lives. I still can't drive

though,

> I can sit in the car if I sit kinda sideways, but that doesn't make

> for good driving. My hubby is so tired of driving me places. I

told

> him last night that I was so sorry for intentionally throwing

myself

> down the stairs just to inconvenience him. That would be awesome

to

> meet you in person though. Meaghan-- In

> weightlossbuddies2 , " " <amvdhrjr@n...> wrote:

> > Meaghan,

> > You are so close to me! I'm down between Fenton and Arnold. I'd

> bet

> > we could meet in the middle and drive less than 20 minutes :-)

> > Ang

> >

> > > -Thanks so much Jinx, I can't believe how awesome you all

> > are....how

> > > about everybody packing up and moving to Ofallon. We can all

> deal

> > > with the weight issues and life together, face to face. You

guys

> > are

> > > the best!!!!!!! Meaghan-- In

> > > weightlossbuddies2 , " Jinx A. "

> > <jinxjohn@a...>

> > > wrote:

> > > > Meaghan, I am so sorry that you had to go through this and it

> is

> > > not a reflection of your parenting. Shame on your

homeschooling

> > > group for being so reactionary and not being better informed.

I

> > hope

> > > you are together soon and that you are able to put it behind

> you.

> > My

> > > thoughts and prayers are with you. Jx.

> > > > Re: Meaghan*I'm sooooooooo

> > > mad!!!!!!!!!!

> > > >

> > > > -Shan, Thank you thank you thank you....now you made me

cry

> > > though.

> > > > I know exactly what you're talking about. See it's always

> been

> > a

> > > > fear of mine because I was raped. (By Zachary's sperm

donor

> > > > infact.) See, everything happens for a reason...if I

hadn't

> of

> > > been

> > > > asked to work the night shift, I wouldn't of been walking

out

> > > alone

> > > > at night, I wouldn't of had to live through that, but then

I

> > also

> > > > wouldn't have my son. When I found out I was preggo it

made

> > > > everything all right. But because of how he was conceived

> I've

> > > > always feared that maybe some of that mans traits were

passed

> > to

> > > > him. (The police and the counselors swear that isn't the

> case

> > > here

> > > > though....pray they're right.) Then I had to do a 6 month

> > > clinical

> > > > at Fulton Prison and guess what I had to lead...none other

> then

> > > the

> > > > sexual pediophile program. There's nothing scarier...and I

> > guess

> > > > that's where I know I failed my baby. We've talked about

> > things

> > > like

> > > > her body and that nobody has a right to touch her but I

never

> > > went in

> > > > to great detail because I thought she was safe. She's

always

> > > with

> > > > me. I even homeschool her. Guess I screwed up in the

worst

> > > possible

> > > > way. Thanks so much for caring, I know exactely what kind

of

> > > info

> > > > your reading. Meaghan-- In

> weightlossbuddies2 ,

> > > > girlnamedshannon@a... wrote:

> > > > > In a message dated 5/26/2003 9:54:38 AM Central Daylight

> > Time,

> > > > > meaghandionne@y... writes:

> > > > >

> > > > > > He really is a wonderful kid though, and we'll all pull

> > > through

> > > > this too.

> > > > > > He won't ever sleep on the same floor as her again

> though.

> > > We

> > > > are currently

> > > > > > turning the dining room into a bedroom for him. I

never

> > had

> > > > gotten my fancy

> > > > > > table anyway, it was always just a play room. Meaghan--

-

> > > > >

> > > > > Oooooo wowser M...I am so sorry for your daughter and

> > actually

> > > for

> > > > your son

> > > > > as well. I am CERTAIN the initial post about this got

ate

> > by

> > > > Yahoo b/c nobody

> > > > > here is ''disgusted'' with you or your family hon. I am

> > really

> > > glad

> > > > I asked

> > > > > now b/c you should not have been made to feel that way

> > > > intentionally or not!!

> > > > >

> > > > > I am currently reading the first of many required books

in

> my

> > > > clinical social

> > > > > work curriculum and the name of it is ''Predators:

> > Pedophiles,

> > > > Rapists, and

> > > > > Other Sex Offenders: Who They Are, How They Operate, and

> How

> > We

> > > Can

> > > > Protect

> > > > > Ourselves and Our Children'' by Salter. Its a

> veryyyyyy

> > > creepy

> > > > and

> > > > > veryyyyyy troubling book but also something I feel should

> be

> > > > required reading for

> > > > > anyone with children. Gruesome? Frightening? Stuff

> nightmares

> > > are

> > > > made of?

> > > > > YES..but also ALOT of good information.

> > > > >

> > > > > Sorry I didnt mean to digress but honestly I think you

and

> > your

> > > > family are

> > > > > handling the situation great and given your sons age I

> agree

> > > that

> > > > at worst it

> > > > > was probably childish experimentation. Not that it makes

it

> > any

> > > > easier for your

> > > > > babygirl but sometimes things happen and all you can do

is

> > the

> > > best

> > > > you can do

> > > > > and I think you are all doing exactly that. KUDOS to you

> for

> > > > handling it so

> > > > > well and so swiftly and I will definately be keeping you

> and

> > > your

> > > > babies in my

> > > > > thoughts hon.

> > > > >

> > > > > HUGS!!!

> > > > > Shan

> > > > >

May 31, 2003

If I ever get 1 day to stay home and actualy do a few things around

here...day #2 I get to myself I'll have to come visit. I must warn

you...I need very explicit directions if you are not 15 mints from my

house. (Oh, and I don't so that north south thing...I like to keep

it at the left right kind of thing. LOL)

Ang

> -Ang, You're probably right!!!! We'll have to do that sometime.

> From where I live it only takes about 40 minutes to get to Valley

> Park, that's where my best friend lives. I still can't drive

though,

> I can sit in the car if I sit kinda sideways, but that doesn't make

> for good driving. My hubby is so tired of driving me places. I

told

> him last night that I was so sorry for intentionally throwing

myself

> down the stairs just to inconvenience him. That would be awesome

to

> meet you in person though. Meaghan-- In

> weightlossbuddies2 , " " <amvdhrjr@n...> wrote:

> > Meaghan,

> > You are so close to me! I'm down between Fenton and Arnold. I'd

> bet

> > we could meet in the middle and drive less than 20 minutes :-)

> > Ang

> >

> > > -Thanks so much Jinx, I can't believe how awesome you all

> > are....how

> > > about everybody packing up and moving to Ofallon. We can all

> deal

> > > with the weight issues and life together, face to face. You

guys

> > are

> > > the best!!!!!!! Meaghan-- In

> > > weightlossbuddies2 , " Jinx A. "

> > <jinxjohn@a...>

> > > wrote:

> > > > Meaghan, I am so sorry that you had to go through this and it

> is

> > > not a reflection of your parenting. Shame on your

homeschooling

> > > group for being so reactionary and not being better informed.

I

> > hope

> > > you are together soon and that you are able to put it behind

> you.

> > My

> > > thoughts and prayers are with you. Jx.

> > > > Re: Meaghan*I'm sooooooooo

> > > mad!!!!!!!!!!

> > > >

> > > > -Shan, Thank you thank you thank you....now you made me

cry

> > > though.

> > > > I know exactly what you're talking about. See it's always

> been

> > a

> > > > fear of mine because I was raped. (By Zachary's sperm

donor

> > > > infact.) See, everything happens for a reason...if I

hadn't

> of

> > > been

> > > > asked to work the night shift, I wouldn't of been walking

out

> > > alone

> > > > at night, I wouldn't of had to live through that, but then

I

> > also

> > > > wouldn't have my son. When I found out I was preggo it

made

> > > > everything all right. But because of how he was conceived

> I've

> > > > always feared that maybe some of that mans traits were

passed

> > to

> > > > him. (The police and the counselors swear that isn't the

> case

> > > here

> > > > though....pray they're right.) Then I had to do a 6 month

> > > clinical

> > > > at Fulton Prison and guess what I had to lead...none other

> then

> > > the

> > > > sexual pediophile program. There's nothing scarier...and I

> > guess

> > > > that's where I know I failed my baby. We've talked about

> > things

> > > like

> > > > her body and that nobody has a right to touch her but I

never

> > > went in

> > > > to great detail because I thought she was safe. She's

always

> > > with

> > > > me. I even homeschool her. Guess I screwed up in the

worst

> > > possible

> > > > way. Thanks so much for caring, I know exactely what kind

of

> > > info

> > > > your reading. Meaghan-- In

> weightlossbuddies2 ,

> > > > girlnamedshannon@a... wrote:

> > > > > In a message dated 5/26/2003 9:54:38 AM Central Daylight

> > Time,

> > > > > meaghandionne@y... writes:

> > > > >

> > > > > > He really is a wonderful kid though, and we'll all pull

> > > through

> > > > this too.

> > > > > > He won't ever sleep on the same floor as her again

> though.

> > > We

> > > > are currently

> > > > > > turning the dining room into a bedroom for him. I

never

> > had

> > > > gotten my fancy

> > > > > > table anyway, it was always just a play room. Meaghan--

-

> > > > >

> > > > > Oooooo wowser M...I am so sorry for your daughter and

> > actually

> > > for

> > > > your son

> > > > > as well. I am CERTAIN the initial post about this got

ate

> > by

> > > > Yahoo b/c nobody

> > > > > here is ''disgusted'' with you or your family hon. I am

> > really

> > > glad

> > > > I asked

> > > > > now b/c you should not have been made to feel that way

> > > > intentionally or not!!

> > > > >

> > > > > I am currently reading the first of many required books

in

> my

> > > > clinical social

> > > > > work curriculum and the name of it is ''Predators:

> > Pedophiles,

> > > > Rapists, and

> > > > > Other Sex Offenders: Who They Are, How They Operate, and

> How

> > We

> > > Can

> > > > Protect

> > > > > Ourselves and Our Children'' by Salter. Its a

> veryyyyyy

> > > creepy

> > > > and

> > > > > veryyyyyy troubling book but also something I feel should

> be

> > > > required reading for

> > > > > anyone with children. Gruesome? Frightening? Stuff

> nightmares

> > > are

> > > > made of?

> > > > > YES..but also ALOT of good information.

> > > > >

> > > > > Sorry I didnt mean to digress but honestly I think you

and

> > your

> > > > family are

> > > > > handling the situation great and given your sons age I

> agree

> > > that

> > > > at worst it

> > > > > was probably childish experimentation. Not that it makes

it

> > any

> > > > easier for your

> > > > > babygirl but sometimes things happen and all you can do

is

> > the

> > > best

> > > > you can do

> > > > > and I think you are all doing exactly that. KUDOS to you

> for

> > > > handling it so

> > > > > well and so swiftly and I will definately be keeping you

> and

> > > your

> > > > babies in my

> > > > > thoughts hon.

> > > > >

> > > > > HUGS!!!

> > > > > Shan

> > > > >

May 31, 2003

Oh I know exactely where you're coming from. I can't get anywhere

without directions unless I've been there atleast ten times. I like

the kind of directions that go...turn left at Mcs, Right at

Steak and SHake....-lol Meaghan

> > > > > > In a message dated 5/26/2003 9:54:38 AM Central

Daylight

> > > Time,

> > > > > > meaghandionne@y... writes:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > He really is a wonderful kid though, and we'll all

pull

> > > > through

> > > > > this too.

> > > > > > > He won't ever sleep on the same floor as her again

> > though.

> > > > We

> > > > > are currently

> > > > > > > turning the dining room into a bedroom for him. I

> never

> > > had

> > > > > gotten my fancy

> > > > > > > table anyway, it was always just a play room.

Meaghan--

> -

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Oooooo wowser M...I am so sorry for your daughter and

> > > actually

> > > > for

> > > > > your son

> > > > > > as well. I am CERTAIN the initial post about this got

> ate

> > > by

> > > > > Yahoo b/c nobody

> > > > > > here is ''disgusted'' with you or your family hon. I am

> > > really

> > > > glad

> > > > > I asked

> > > > > > now b/c you should not have been made to feel that way

> > > > > intentionally or not!!

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I am currently reading the first of many required books

> in

> > my

> > > > > clinical social

> > > > > > work curriculum and the name of it is ''Predators:

> > > Pedophiles,

> > > > > Rapists, and

> > > > > > Other Sex Offenders: Who They Are, How They Operate,

and

> > How

> > > We

> > > > Can

> > > > > Protect

> > > > > > Ourselves and Our Children'' by Salter. Its a

> > veryyyyyy

> > > > creepy

> > > > > and

> > > > > > veryyyyyy troubling book but also something I feel

should

> > be

> > > > > required reading for

> > > > > > anyone with children. Gruesome? Frightening? Stuff

> > nightmares

> > > > are

> > > > > made of?

> > > > > > YES..but also ALOT of good information.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Sorry I didnt mean to digress but honestly I think you

> and

> > > your

> > > > > family are

> > > > > > handling the situation great and given your sons age I

> > agree

> > > > that

> > > > > at worst it

> > > > > > was probably childish experimentation. Not that it

makes

> it

> > > any

> > > > > easier for your

> > > > > > babygirl but sometimes things happen and all you can do

> is

> > > the

> > > > best

> > > > > you can do

> > > > > > and I think you are all doing exactly that. KUDOS to

you

> > for

> > > > > handling it so

> > > > > > well and so swiftly and I will definately be keeping

you

> > and

> > > > your

> > > > > babies in my

> > > > > > thoughts hon.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > HUGS!!!

> > > > > > Shan

> > > > > >

May 31, 2003

Oh I know exactely where you're coming from. I can't get anywhere

without directions unless I've been there atleast ten times. I like

the kind of directions that go...turn left at Mcs, Right at

Steak and SHake....-lol Meaghan

> > > > > > In a message dated 5/26/2003 9:54:38 AM Central

Daylight

> > > Time,

> > > > > > meaghandionne@y... writes:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > He really is a wonderful kid though, and we'll all

pull

> > > > through

> > > > > this too.

> > > > > > > He won't ever sleep on the same floor as her again

> > though.

> > > > We

> > > > > are currently

> > > > > > > turning the dining room into a bedroom for him. I

> never

> > > had

> > > > > gotten my fancy

> > > > > > > table anyway, it was always just a play room.

Meaghan--

> -

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Oooooo wowser M...I am so sorry for your daughter and

> > > actually

> > > > for

> > > > > your son

> > > > > > as well. I am CERTAIN the initial post about this got

> ate

> > > by

> > > > > Yahoo b/c nobody

> > > > > > here is ''disgusted'' with you or your family hon. I am

> > > really

> > > > glad

> > > > > I asked

> > > > > > now b/c you should not have been made to feel that way

> > > > > intentionally or not!!

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I am currently reading the first of many required books

> in

> > my

> > > > > clinical social

> > > > > > work curriculum and the name of it is ''Predators:

> > > Pedophiles,

> > > > > Rapists, and

> > > > > > Other Sex Offenders: Who They Are, How They Operate,

and

> > How

> > > We

> > > > Can

> > > > > Protect

> > > > > > Ourselves and Our Children'' by Salter. Its a

> > veryyyyyy

> > > > creepy

> > > > > and

> > > > > > veryyyyyy troubling book but also something I feel

should

> > be

> > > > > required reading for

> > > > > > anyone with children. Gruesome? Frightening? Stuff

> > nightmares

> > > > are

> > > > > made of?

> > > > > > YES..but also ALOT of good information.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Sorry I didnt mean to digress but honestly I think you

> and

> > > your

> > > > > family are

> > > > > > handling the situation great and given your sons age I

> > agree

> > > > that

> > > > > at worst it

> > > > > > was probably childish experimentation. Not that it

makes

> it

> > > any

> > > > > easier for your

> > > > > > babygirl but sometimes things happen and all you can do

> is

> > > the

> > > > best

> > > > > you can do

> > > > > > and I think you are all doing exactly that. KUDOS to

you

> > for

> > > > > handling it so

> > > > > > well and so swiftly and I will definately be keeping

you

> > and

> > > > your

> > > > > babies in my

> > > > > > thoughts hon.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > HUGS!!!

> > > > > > Shan

> > > > > >

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