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November 25, 2009

But I don't get why you improved with Armour if you had rT3 blocking your T3?

Horrible, horrible doctors................. I am SO glad you took control of

your own health! I am so impressed!!!

I always had tachycardia. Everything from EVERY night to 4-5 times a year. Ever

since I was 13. Thousands of times. Literally. I hope dessicated thyroid will

fix all my minor quirks, one day, like Armour took care of your problems!

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> Sea salt for one! They had me on a no salt diet for 2 years to try to

> lower my BP and fluid reteniton. I was oon horrid diuretics as well.

> Proabbyl the beginning of my low potassium issues then. I threw the

> Synthroid in the trash and started pordering Armoru on line. One by one

> as I improved I dropped first the beta blockers then the pther BP meds.

> My BP is nbow 127/77 most the time on NO bP meds!

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November 25, 2009

But I don't get why you improved with Armour if you had rT3 blocking your T3?

Horrible, horrible doctors................. I am SO glad you took control of

your own health! I am so impressed!!!

I always had tachycardia. Everything from EVERY night to 4-5 times a year. Ever

since I was 13. Thousands of times. Literally. I hope dessicated thyroid will

fix all my minor quirks, one day, like Armour took care of your problems!

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> Sea salt for one! They had me on a no salt diet for 2 years to try to

> lower my BP and fluid reteniton. I was oon horrid diuretics as well.

> Proabbyl the beginning of my low potassium issues then. I threw the

> Synthroid in the trash and started pordering Armoru on line. One by one

> as I improved I dropped first the beta blockers then the pther BP meds.

> My BP is nbow 127/77 most the time on NO bP meds!

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November 25, 2009

But I don't get why you improved with Armour if you had rT3 blocking your T3?

Horrible, horrible doctors................. I am SO glad you took control of

your own health! I am so impressed!!!

I always had tachycardia. Everything from EVERY night to 4-5 times a year. Ever

since I was 13. Thousands of times. Literally. I hope dessicated thyroid will

fix all my minor quirks, one day, like Armour took care of your problems!

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> Sea salt for one! They had me on a no salt diet for 2 years to try to

> lower my BP and fluid reteniton. I was oon horrid diuretics as well.

> Proabbyl the beginning of my low potassium issues then. I threw the

> Synthroid in the trash and started pordering Armoru on line. One by one

> as I improved I dropped first the beta blockers then the pther BP meds.

> My BP is nbow 127/77 most the time on NO bP meds!

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November 25, 2009

I do have T3 lying here. But maybe I should try ERFA Thyroid a little longer

than 5 days before I switch to just T3 alone (with HC).

I take your advice seriously. Thank you!

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> I woudl ask for some T3 instead of the ERFA thyroid.

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November 25, 2009

I do have T3 lying here. But maybe I should try ERFA Thyroid a little longer

than 5 days before I switch to just T3 alone (with HC).

I take your advice seriously. Thank you!

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> I woudl ask for some T3 instead of the ERFA thyroid.

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November 25, 2009

I do have T3 lying here. But maybe I should try ERFA Thyroid a little longer

than 5 days before I switch to just T3 alone (with HC).

I take your advice seriously. Thank you!

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> I woudl ask for some T3 instead of the ERFA thyroid.

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November 25, 2009

Unfortunatle MANY people are dyign of congestive heart failure and I am

wondering how many of them simply have lwo T3 or HIgh RT3. The doctors

think CHF causes Euthroid Sick Syndrome, which is basically high RT3

which is a protective measure of th ebody when it cannto tolerate T3,

BUT I believe it is the high RT3 causing the CHF. For me it certinly was.

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November 25, 2009

Unfortunatle MANY people are dyign of congestive heart failure and I am

wondering how many of them simply have lwo T3 or HIgh RT3. The doctors

think CHF causes Euthroid Sick Syndrome, which is basically high RT3

which is a protective measure of th ebody when it cannto tolerate T3,

BUT I believe it is the high RT3 causing the CHF. For me it certinly was.

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November 25, 2009

That was a long time and alot of research ago. Back then I never knew ot

get RT3 tested nor did I knwo what it did or why. I also knew nothign

abotu cortisol back then. All this I learned in hindsight. I followed my

instincts and went wioth the Armrou though I could have recovered ALOT

faster nd better had I taken only T3 but I had to learn all this stuff

the hard way.

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November 25, 2009

That was a long time and alot of research ago. Back then I never knew ot

get RT3 tested nor did I knwo what it did or why. I also knew nothign

abotu cortisol back then. All this I learned in hindsight. I followed my

instincts and went wioth the Armrou though I could have recovered ALOT

faster nd better had I taken only T3 but I had to learn all this stuff

the hard way.

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November 25, 2009

That was a long time and alot of research ago. Back then I never knew ot

get RT3 tested nor did I knwo what it did or why. I also knew nothign

abotu cortisol back then. All this I learned in hindsight. I followed my

instincts and went wioth the Armrou though I could have recovered ALOT

faster nd better had I taken only T3 but I had to learn all this stuff

the hard way.

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November 25, 2009

ANY tT3 was better than none. When in myxedema what you die from is

fluid in the lungs and chest, or basically CHF . T3 would have pulled me

out of it faster btu Amrour did pull me through it and I was dabbling

wiht T3 as well then but I did nto knwo how ot dose it. I was scared of

it from all I had been told and only would take 20mcg a day wiht my

Armroiu. I am sure it kept me alive btu it was not until the last couple

years thta I went to all T3 and learned how to really clear out RT3 and

get unhypo wiht it.

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November 26, 2009

I am more and more suspicious about rT3.

Simple story:

Bad doctor raised my T4 meds, because she took away my T3. Immediately, I got a

strong pressure in my head - Lasted for 8 months. Only disappeared when I

lowered my T4 medication.

I now take less T4, but have added ERFA Thyroid. Which is more potent. Acording

to conversion tables, I have now increased my T4 intake with 25 mcg total, since

6 days ago when I took ERFA Thyroid 1/2 grain for the first time.

The pressure, from last year, came back 2 days ago. I still feel weird today,

and a bit heavy'n slow. (Hyposymptoms)

Doesn't all this add up to the fact that rT3 is messing with me?

Will do FT3/FT4/TSH/rT3 blodwwork tomorrow. Answer to that in about 1 week.

Thanks!

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> Sea salt for one! They had me on a no salt diet for 2 years to try to

> lower my BP and fluid reteniton. I was oon horrid diuretics as well.

> Proabbyl the beginning of my low potassium issues then. I threw the

> Synthroid in the trash and started pordering Armoru on line. One by one

> as I improved I dropped first the beta blockers then the pther BP meds.

> My BP is nbow 127/77 most the time on NO bP meds!

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November 26, 2009

BTW: Just in case of an " emergency " here.. How do I make the switch from being

on 50 mcg T4 and 1/2 grain ERFA Thyroid for 1 week? (6 day today) - I was

previously taking 75 mcg T4 and 5 mcg T3. Quit T3 and removed 25 mcg T4 when I

started ERFA Thyroid 1/2 grain.

I feel very Hypo now. Slow. Like I don't understand that this is the " REAL "

world I'm living in. Pulse feels a bit weak.

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> I woudl ask for some T3 instead of the ERFA thyroid.

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November 26, 2009

Wow, that's some heavy stuff right there...

And that fluid is... Mucus, right? Like Mark Starr describes it.

Normal heartpatients retain water. Hypothyroid retain, or create, this Mucus.

So you were on synthroid before you switched to Armour?

Atually, in the past 3 years, I've felt my lungs having some kind of symptom,

like, when I wake up in the morning, and breathe In, I feel like this kind of...

gargling/vibrating " noise " (more like a feeling) down there. Can that be

mucus/fluids starting to reatin?

Well, anyway...

What is your opinion on my atrial fibrillation in January 2008?

I got this extreme stress-feeling in my body, plus diffucult to breathe

(pressure on the chest) at times, for like 8 months prior to the atrial

fibrillation. This could've been the start of Adrenal Fatigue. Anyway. At the

time I got the atrial fibrillation, my FT3 was higher than normal. It should be

between 3.5 and 7.8, and mine was 16.0 - I hope I didn't take my T3 meds before

I did the blood sample. I don't think I did, but I am not sure.

- Could it have been rT3 (I am just guessing here, but: as a result after

getting AF, with HIGH cortisol at first, then low) Like rT3 was preventing T3

from going into my cells and it appeared as high FT3 instead?

Should I watch out for LOW FT3 in the blood or HIGH FT3 in the blood these days

while on ERFA Thyroid?

I am talking to my specialist about doing T3 only soon, as an option. (With HC)

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> ANY tT3 was better than none. When in myxedema what you die from is

> fluid in the lungs and chest, or basically CHF . T3 would have pulled me

> out of it faster btu Amrour did pull me through it and I was dabbling

> wiht T3 as well then but I did nto knwo how ot dose it. I was scared of

> it from all I had been told and only would take 20mcg a day wiht my

> Armroiu. I am sure it kept me alive btu it was not until the last couple

> years thta I went to all T3 and learned how to really clear out RT3 and

> get unhypo wiht it.

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November 27, 2009

>BTW: Just in case of an " emergency " here.. How do I make the switch from being

on 50 mcg T4 and 1/2 grain ERFA Thyroid for 1 week? (6 day today) - I was

previously taking 75 mcg T4 and 5 mcg T3. Quit T3 and removed 25 mcg T4 when I

started ERFA Thyroid 1/2 grain.

That's a reasonably step change.

half a grain is 4.5 of T3 and 19 of T4 so not unreasonable at all.

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>I feel very Hypo now. Slow. Like I don't understand that this is the " REAL "

world I'm living in. Pulse feels a bit weak.

If you wanted to go T3 only then just stop the T4 and Erfa dead and

take 5mcg (or 6.25 if you have 25mcg tablets) of T3 the first day the

next day take 5 morning and 5 evening.

Stay on that for a couple of days and you can pick up the schedule

here then ONLY raising when you feel your body is ready/needs more.

The T4 in your body from the Erfa and the T4 meds will decay very

slowly, over a few weeks, and you need to track that decay with T3

increases based on pulse, temperature, and symptoms.

Feel free to ask questions

Nick

November 27, 2009

>BTW: Just in case of an " emergency " here.. How do I make the switch from being

on 50 mcg T4 and 1/2 grain ERFA Thyroid for 1 week? (6 day today) - I was

previously taking 75 mcg T4 and 5 mcg T3. Quit T3 and removed 25 mcg T4 when I

started ERFA Thyroid 1/2 grain.

That's a reasonably step change.

half a grain is 4.5 of T3 and 19 of T4 so not unreasonable at all.

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>I feel very Hypo now. Slow. Like I don't understand that this is the " REAL "

world I'm living in. Pulse feels a bit weak.

If you wanted to go T3 only then just stop the T4 and Erfa dead and

take 5mcg (or 6.25 if you have 25mcg tablets) of T3 the first day the

next day take 5 morning and 5 evening.

Stay on that for a couple of days and you can pick up the schedule

here then ONLY raising when you feel your body is ready/needs more.

http://thyroid-rt3.com/dosing.htm

The T4 in your body from the Erfa and the T4 meds will decay very

slowly, over a few weeks, and you need to track that decay with T3

increases based on pulse, temperature, and symptoms.

Feel free to ask questions

Nick

December 8, 2009

What do you mean that was a steep change? You just told me it was

a reasonable change too? I am a zombie. Forgive me for my

slowness of mind.

I always learned that you have to do changes with Thyroid meds

SLOWLY. Guess that doesn't always count... It takes no less than

3 months to see the " real " change in the blood from a dose change.

Now, I started taking 1/2 grain 18 days ago. Upped to 1 grain 7

days ago. Removed my T4 (my own decision) today. Is it safe to just

remove 50 mcg T4 like that?

My specialist told me that I can remove T4 just like that because

we SUSPECT T4 isn't turning into T3, but rather rT3!

Today I took 9 mcg T3 and 38 mcg T4. = 1 grain Thyroid. It's not

much of a dose now is it...

Maybe I should try to increase Thyroid with 1/2 grain more? But WHEN

can I do that? Maybe I should wait some days/weeks more? And take

a new blood sample before I up it?

As for temperatures... I should watch out for TOO LOW temps if I

make the switch to T3-only, right? And too slow pulse?

(Meaning I need to up the T3 dose) Or?

T.

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> >BTW: Just in case of an " emergency " here.. How do I make the switch from

being on 50 mcg T4 and 1/2 grain ERFA Thyroid for 1 week? (6 day today) - I was

previously taking 75 mcg T4 and 5 mcg T3. Quit T3 and removed 25 mcg T4 when I

started ERFA Thyroid 1/2 grain.

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> That's a reasonably step change.

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> half a grain is 4.5 of T3 and 19 of T4 so not unreasonable at all.

December 8, 2009

What do you mean that was a steep change? You just told me it was

a reasonable change too? I am a zombie. Forgive me for my

slowness of mind.

I always learned that you have to do changes with Thyroid meds

SLOWLY. Guess that doesn't always count... It takes no less than

3 months to see the " real " change in the blood from a dose change.

Now, I started taking 1/2 grain 18 days ago. Upped to 1 grain 7

days ago. Removed my T4 (my own decision) today. Is it safe to just

remove 50 mcg T4 like that?

My specialist told me that I can remove T4 just like that because

we SUSPECT T4 isn't turning into T3, but rather rT3!

Today I took 9 mcg T3 and 38 mcg T4. = 1 grain Thyroid. It's not

much of a dose now is it...

Maybe I should try to increase Thyroid with 1/2 grain more? But WHEN

can I do that? Maybe I should wait some days/weeks more? And take

a new blood sample before I up it?

As for temperatures... I should watch out for TOO LOW temps if I

make the switch to T3-only, right? And too slow pulse?

(Meaning I need to up the T3 dose) Or?

T.

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> >BTW: Just in case of an " emergency " here.. How do I make the switch from

being on 50 mcg T4 and 1/2 grain ERFA Thyroid for 1 week? (6 day today) - I was

previously taking 75 mcg T4 and 5 mcg T3. Quit T3 and removed 25 mcg T4 when I

started ERFA Thyroid 1/2 grain.

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> That's a reasonably step change.

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> half a grain is 4.5 of T3 and 19 of T4 so not unreasonable at all.

December 8, 2009

What do you mean that was a steep change? You just told me it was

a reasonable change too? I am a zombie. Forgive me for my

slowness of mind.

I always learned that you have to do changes with Thyroid meds

SLOWLY. Guess that doesn't always count... It takes no less than

3 months to see the " real " change in the blood from a dose change.

Now, I started taking 1/2 grain 18 days ago. Upped to 1 grain 7

days ago. Removed my T4 (my own decision) today. Is it safe to just

remove 50 mcg T4 like that?

My specialist told me that I can remove T4 just like that because

we SUSPECT T4 isn't turning into T3, but rather rT3!

Today I took 9 mcg T3 and 38 mcg T4. = 1 grain Thyroid. It's not

much of a dose now is it...

Maybe I should try to increase Thyroid with 1/2 grain more? But WHEN

can I do that? Maybe I should wait some days/weeks more? And take

a new blood sample before I up it?

As for temperatures... I should watch out for TOO LOW temps if I

make the switch to T3-only, right? And too slow pulse?

(Meaning I need to up the T3 dose) Or?

T.

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> >BTW: Just in case of an " emergency " here.. How do I make the switch from

being on 50 mcg T4 and 1/2 grain ERFA Thyroid for 1 week? (6 day today) - I was

previously taking 75 mcg T4 and 5 mcg T3. Quit T3 and removed 25 mcg T4 when I

started ERFA Thyroid 1/2 grain.

>

> That's a reasonably step change.

>

> half a grain is 4.5 of T3 and 19 of T4 so not unreasonable at all.

December 8, 2009

I took 1 grain ERFA Thyroid today. Dropped the synthetic T4. Is it safe to just

drop it like that all together in one day?

Hmm.. Wonder what happens tomorrow.. I am def. Hypothyroid..........

OR Cushings............ Or both............

I look horrible. And feel even worse.

Upped my Iron to 100 mg this midnight.

December 8, 2009

I took 1 grain ERFA Thyroid today. Dropped the synthetic T4. Is it safe to just

drop it like that all together in one day?

Hmm.. Wonder what happens tomorrow.. I am def. Hypothyroid..........

OR Cushings............ Or both............

I look horrible. And feel even worse.

Upped my Iron to 100 mg this midnight.

December 8, 2009

Erfa adn T4 all slowly leave th ebody over several weeks., It is safe to

just stop them as your own thyroid will be still makeing SOME thyroid

and it wil oick uyp what it is able to do to carry you till you can

tolerate T3.

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