Guest guest Posted July 9, 2002 Report Share Posted July 9, 2002 I've noticed in my reading that Iodine deficiency can cause the thyroid to enlarge and produce more thyroid hormone thus rendering a person hyper. I personally do not use iodized salt or any other kind of suplement. Has anyone tried increasing their iodine uptake? Results? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 9, 2002 Report Share Posted July 9, 2002 madrone whelan wrote: > > I've noticed in my reading that Iodine deficiency can cause the thyroid to enlarge and produce more thyroid hormone thus rendering a person hyper. The enlargement or goiter itself doesn't cause hyper. Hyperthyroidism is alledgedly more common in areas which had a lot of Iodine deficiency - central China had (and I suspect some parts still have) a problem with endemic Iodine deficiency. As did parts of the USA not so many years ago. The suspicion is the cells may alter when swollen as an adaption to life in low Iodine environments - I remain sceptical that it is adaptive, and not just that swollen thyroids are more likely to malfunction in some way (hyper or hypo). Goiter from Grave's disease is different in cause, it is caused by antibodies emulating the hormone that would normal be produced when Iodine deficient. So eating more Iodine will not trigger the usual mechanism to lower hormone production <doh>. However the body has more tricks up it's sleaves. If Iodine intake is suddenly increased (such as several drops of Lugol solution a day), the normal chemical processes in the thyroid are suspended for a short period, then the body adjusts to this new level of Iodine intake and starts excreting the excess Iodine in urine. This later response to excess Iodine does not function normally in some Graves patients, and it is possible to induce a euthyroid state by supplying some people with lots of Iodine. This is used to make people euthyroid before surgery if they can not tolerate the normal antithyroid drugs. (Presumably this is the mechanism the old herbal cures based on Iodine use to exploit!) Potassium Iodide (Lugol's solutions) was abandoned as a sometime treatment for Graves, after the antithyroid drug PTU was discovered, as PTU is much more widely successful where as Iodine only works for long durations in a minority of cases, and can make some patients worse. http://www.thyroidmanager.org/ has extensive discription of Iodine metabolism in one of the early chapters. > I personally do not use iodized salt or any other kind of suplement. Has anyone tried increasing their iodine uptake? Results? Varied - as the above suggests. In my case Kelp sometimes helps stop the thyroid swelling, as it was prone to do. Whether it had just used up all it's Iodine, or whether it was a subtler effect I don't have a clue, it just stopped the pain in my throat when swallowing. If you want to try a more Iodine rich diet I'd mention it to your doctor first. Also be sure of diagnosis, some people are hyperthyroid with nodules on their thyroid. Autonomous nodules will turn as much Iodine into thyroid hormone as they can....ouch! From a diet perspecive; Iodine and Tyrosine are the prime constitutents of the thyroid hormones. You also seem to need selenium to make the hormones. The hyperthyroid also have odd Zinc metabolism, some have suggested the shedding of Zinc is a defence mechanism against certain symptoms. Calcium related systems can also go out of kilter leading to osteoperosis, some doc's even go so far as to recommend extra milk for Graves patients..... Grave's patients are more likely to be gluten intolerant, and if so, excluding gluten seems to reduce the autoimmune reaction and can lead to remission in some cases. The bowel effects of hyperthyroidism can cause poor absortion of nutrients, some doctors recommend vitamin supplements for the hyperthyroid - I'll stick with my organic fruit and veg. I agree with your comment earlier, there is far more than Iodine involved in dietary issues around Grave's disease. I'd also say thyroid problems hyper and hypo are more evident by their impact on my digestive system, than by anything obvious at the front of my neck*. Simon, brain dumping a little... * I still think 's newsletter title " Sticking out our necks " is hilarious. Good newsletter as well! http://www.thyroid.about.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 10, 2002 Report Share Posted July 10, 2002 Hi, Iodine deficiency does indeed cause thyroid cells to enlarge in their efforts to produce more thyroid hormone, causing goiter. But this does not cause hyperthyroidism. People who are genetically predisposed to developing autoimmune thyroid disorders (AITDs) are known to develop autoimmune thyroid disease (both hypothyroidism and hyperthyroidismif they ingest more than 150 mcg of iodine daily. The minimum daily requirement is 75 mcg, and the average fast food diet provides approximately 1,000 mcg daily. In this case, iodine acts as an environmental trigger stimulating immune system cells to react and produce thyroid antibodies. And the antibodies cause the disease symptoms. Take care, Elaine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 5, 2011 Report Share Posted March 5, 2011 Ok great thanks that explains everything. Sometimes being overly thin is also an iodine deficiency/thyroid disorder. Have you ever had correct thyroid levels tested? Are you healthy? Would depend on other issues to know the level of deficiency. To answer your question, yes, Thin can equate to deficiency, too. Cheryl > > Please could you answer this question. Can someone who is very thin still need iodine? My family are all very thin and I thought you tended toward being overweight if you didn't have enough iodine. My daughter has the same body type, tall and willowy. Thanks, Kim > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 5, 2011 Report Share Posted March 5, 2011 Ok great thanks that explains everything. Sometimes being overly thin is also an iodine deficiency/thyroid disorder. Have you ever had correct thyroid levels tested? Are you healthy? Would depend on other issues to know the level of deficiency. To answer your question, yes, Thin can equate to deficiency, too. Cheryl > > Please could you answer this question. Can someone who is very thin still need iodine? My family are all very thin and I thought you tended toward being overweight if you didn't have enough iodine. My daughter has the same body type, tall and willowy. Thanks, Kim > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 5, 2011 Report Share Posted March 5, 2011 Ok great thanks that explains everything. Sometimes being overly thin is also an iodine deficiency/thyroid disorder. Have you ever had correct thyroid levels tested? Are you healthy? Would depend on other issues to know the level of deficiency. To answer your question, yes, Thin can equate to deficiency, too. Cheryl > > Please could you answer this question. Can someone who is very thin still need iodine? My family are all very thin and I thought you tended toward being overweight if you didn't have enough iodine. My daughter has the same body type, tall and willowy. Thanks, Kim > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 6, 2011 Report Share Posted March 6, 2011 I think so. We are all pretty thin. I am the heaviest looking in the family and I'm 5'6" 120 lbs. My son is very thin 4'8" 60 lbs. He has a killer metabolism but needs iodine to offset all his pool ( chlorine ) exposure. For me it caused die off and then made me feel better.Sent from my iPhone On Mar 5, 2011, at 3:59 PM, Kim Abell ikinh wrote: Please could you answer this question. Can someone who is very thin still need iodine? My family are all very thin and I thought you tended toward being overweight if you didn't have enough iodine. My daughter has the same body type, tall and willowy. Thanks, Kim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 6, 2011 Report Share Posted March 6, 2011 I think so. We are all pretty thin. I am the heaviest looking in the family and I'm 5'6" 120 lbs. My son is very thin 4'8" 60 lbs. He has a killer metabolism but needs iodine to offset all his pool ( chlorine ) exposure. For me it caused die off and then made me feel better.Sent from my iPhone On Mar 5, 2011, at 3:59 PM, Kim Abell ikinh wrote: Please could you answer this question. Can someone who is very thin still need iodine? My family are all very thin and I thought you tended toward being overweight if you didn't have enough iodine. My daughter has the same body type, tall and willowy. Thanks, Kim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 6, 2011 Report Share Posted March 6, 2011 I think so. We are all pretty thin. I am the heaviest looking in the family and I'm 5'6" 120 lbs. My son is very thin 4'8" 60 lbs. He has a killer metabolism but needs iodine to offset all his pool ( chlorine ) exposure. For me it caused die off and then made me feel better.Sent from my iPhone On Mar 5, 2011, at 3:59 PM, Kim Abell ikinh wrote: Please could you answer this question. Can someone who is very thin still need iodine? My family are all very thin and I thought you tended toward being overweight if you didn't have enough iodine. My daughter has the same body type, tall and willowy. Thanks, Kim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 6, 2011 Report Share Posted March 6, 2011 A speedy metabolism is good as long as the nutrients are being utilized. If he is having to eat 10 thousand calories to function, it might be too speedy. If he is eating just a little above normal(swimming burns those calories!) and he has no issues then its probably good. If muscles are good-well defined not soft, digestion is good, energy level is good, skin(no moles,tags,rashes) hair and nails are normal, no colds, flu or allergy. No worm sign. No depression, anxiety, irrational fears. No OCD, hyper or manic behavior. Little to no body fat. Regular sleep patterns. If all of those are good a person is probably healthy. Someone else may have a different definition of healthy, thats mine. So look at the body as a package of all those areas, then decide if you see complete health or there might be diet changes ( learn about oxalates and goitrogens, others depending on symptoms) or vitamins, minerals needed to reach it. Healthy people tend to not have the halide buildup in cells, so they are already more Iodine saturated. There isnt the need to do the high dose Iodine protocol. The 12.5 mg is usually recommended as a maintenance dosage, you may need less because you weigh less. If you have issues you may need more, and/or diet changes. Iodine supplementation still needs to be in conjunction with a comprehensive nutritional program including minerals and vitamins or the equivelent in food. Cheryl > > I think so. We are all pretty thin. I am the heaviest looking in the family and I'm 5'6 " 120 lbs. My son is very thin 4'8 " 60 lbs. He has a killer metabolism but needs iodine to offset all his pool ( chlorine ) exposure. For me it caused die off and then made me feel better. > > Sent from my iPhone > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 6, 2011 Report Share Posted March 6, 2011 Thanks!Sent from my iPhone A speedy metabolism is good as long as the nutrients are being utilized. If he is having to eat 10 thousand calories to function, it might be too speedy. If he is eating just a little above normal(swimming burns those calories!) and he has no issues then its probably good. If muscles are good-well defined not soft, digestion is good, energy level is good, skin(no moles,tags,rashes) hair and nails are normal, no colds, flu or allergy. No worm sign. No depression, anxiety, irrational fears. No OCD, hyper or manic behavior. Little to no body fat. Regular sleep patterns. If all of those are good a person is probably healthy. Someone else may have a different definition of healthy, thats mine. So look at the body as a package of all those areas, then decide if you see complete health or there might be diet changes ( learn about oxalates and goitrogens, others depending on symptoms) or vitamins, minerals needed to reach it. Healthy people tend to not have the halide buildup in cells, so they are already more Iodine saturated. There isnt the need to do the high dose Iodine protocol. The 12.5 mg is usually recommended as a maintenance dosage, you may need less because you weigh less. If you have issues you may need more, and/or diet changes. Iodine supplementation still needs to be in conjunction with a comprehensive nutritional program including minerals and vitamins or the equivelent in food. Cheryl > > I think so. We are all pretty thin. I am the heaviest looking in the family and I'm 5'6" 120 lbs. My son is very thin 4'8" 60 lbs. He has a killer metabolism but needs iodine to offset all his pool ( chlorine ) exposure. For me it caused die off and then made me feel better. > > Sent from my iPhone > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 6, 2011 Report Share Posted March 6, 2011 Thanks!Sent from my iPhone A speedy metabolism is good as long as the nutrients are being utilized. If he is having to eat 10 thousand calories to function, it might be too speedy. If he is eating just a little above normal(swimming burns those calories!) and he has no issues then its probably good. If muscles are good-well defined not soft, digestion is good, energy level is good, skin(no moles,tags,rashes) hair and nails are normal, no colds, flu or allergy. No worm sign. No depression, anxiety, irrational fears. No OCD, hyper or manic behavior. Little to no body fat. Regular sleep patterns. If all of those are good a person is probably healthy. Someone else may have a different definition of healthy, thats mine. So look at the body as a package of all those areas, then decide if you see complete health or there might be diet changes ( learn about oxalates and goitrogens, others depending on symptoms) or vitamins, minerals needed to reach it. Healthy people tend to not have the halide buildup in cells, so they are already more Iodine saturated. There isnt the need to do the high dose Iodine protocol. The 12.5 mg is usually recommended as a maintenance dosage, you may need less because you weigh less. If you have issues you may need more, and/or diet changes. Iodine supplementation still needs to be in conjunction with a comprehensive nutritional program including minerals and vitamins or the equivelent in food. Cheryl > > I think so. We are all pretty thin. I am the heaviest looking in the family and I'm 5'6" 120 lbs. My son is very thin 4'8" 60 lbs. He has a killer metabolism but needs iodine to offset all his pool ( chlorine ) exposure. For me it caused die off and then made me feel better. > > Sent from my iPhone > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 6, 2011 Report Share Posted March 6, 2011 Cheryl, can you tell me what you know about moles and and tags? They run on my mom's side. I have them. My boys have them. They're popping up more and more on the boys as they get older. I always wondered if it was a sign of something (my mother's side of the family is c-r-a-zy....lol, but seriously...) Is it a sign of deficiency? -tammy To: mb12 valtrex Sent: Sun, March 6, 2011 11:49:47 AMSubject: Re: Iodine A speedy metabolism is good as long as the nutrients are being utilized. If he is having to eat 10 thousand calories to function, it might be too speedy. If he is eating just a little above normal(swimming burns those calories!) and he has no issues then its probably good. If muscles are good-well defined not soft, digestion is good, energy level is good, skin(no moles,tags,rashes) hair and nails are normal, no colds, flu or allergy. No worm sign. No depression, anxiety, irrational fears. No OCD, hyper or manic behavior. Little to no body fat. Regular sleep patterns. If all of those are good a person is probably healthy. Someone else may have a different definition of healthy, thats mine. So look at the body as a package of all those areas, then decide if you see complete health or there might be diet changes ( learn about oxalates and goitrogens, others depending on symptoms) or vitamins, minerals needed to reach it. Healthy people tend to not have the halide buildup in cells, so they are already more Iodine saturated. There isnt the need to do the high dose Iodine protocol. The 12.5 mg is usually recommended as a maintenance dosage, you may need less because you weigh less. If you have issues you may need more, and/or diet changes. Iodine supplementation still needs to be in conjunction with a comprehensive nutritional program including minerals and vitamins or the equivelent in food. Cheryl>> I think so. We are all pretty thin. I am the heaviest looking in the family and I'm 5'6" 120 lbs. My son is very thin 4'8" 60 lbs. He has a killer metabolism but needs iodine to offset all his pool ( chlorine ) exposure. For me it caused die off and then made me feel better.> > Sent from my iPhone > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 6, 2011 Report Share Posted March 6, 2011 Cheryl, can you tell me what you know about moles and and tags? They run on my mom's side. I have them. My boys have them. They're popping up more and more on the boys as they get older. I always wondered if it was a sign of something (my mother's side of the family is c-r-a-zy....lol, but seriously...) Is it a sign of deficiency? -tammy To: mb12 valtrex Sent: Sun, March 6, 2011 11:49:47 AMSubject: Re: Iodine A speedy metabolism is good as long as the nutrients are being utilized. If he is having to eat 10 thousand calories to function, it might be too speedy. If he is eating just a little above normal(swimming burns those calories!) and he has no issues then its probably good. If muscles are good-well defined not soft, digestion is good, energy level is good, skin(no moles,tags,rashes) hair and nails are normal, no colds, flu or allergy. No worm sign. No depression, anxiety, irrational fears. No OCD, hyper or manic behavior. Little to no body fat. Regular sleep patterns. If all of those are good a person is probably healthy. Someone else may have a different definition of healthy, thats mine. So look at the body as a package of all those areas, then decide if you see complete health or there might be diet changes ( learn about oxalates and goitrogens, others depending on symptoms) or vitamins, minerals needed to reach it. Healthy people tend to not have the halide buildup in cells, so they are already more Iodine saturated. There isnt the need to do the high dose Iodine protocol. The 12.5 mg is usually recommended as a maintenance dosage, you may need less because you weigh less. If you have issues you may need more, and/or diet changes. Iodine supplementation still needs to be in conjunction with a comprehensive nutritional program including minerals and vitamins or the equivelent in food. Cheryl>> I think so. We are all pretty thin. I am the heaviest looking in the family and I'm 5'6" 120 lbs. My son is very thin 4'8" 60 lbs. He has a killer metabolism but needs iodine to offset all his pool ( chlorine ) exposure. For me it caused die off and then made me feel better.> > Sent from my iPhone > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 6, 2011 Report Share Posted March 6, 2011 Maybe you all have tape worms? > > Please could you answer this question. Can someone who is very thin still need iodine? My family are all very thin and I thought you tended toward being overweight if you didn't have enough iodine. My daughter has the same body type, tall and willowy. Thanks, Kim > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 6, 2011 Report Share Posted March 6, 2011 Maybe you all have tape worms? > > Please could you answer this question. Can someone who is very thin still need iodine? My family are all very thin and I thought you tended toward being overweight if you didn't have enough iodine. My daughter has the same body type, tall and willowy. Thanks, Kim > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 6, 2011 Report Share Posted March 6, 2011 Maybe you all have tape worms? > > Please could you answer this question. Can someone who is very thin still need iodine? My family are all very thin and I thought you tended toward being overweight if you didn't have enough iodine. My daughter has the same body type, tall and willowy. Thanks, Kim > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 6, 2011 Report Share Posted March 6, 2011 Yes it is. There are several theorys about skin abnormalities. Basically anything that isnt smooth normal skin is an abnormality. Acne is an abnormality. Boils. Some think its fungus. Some are viral. Some Candida. Other Inner bacteria. Abnormal skin can be a sign of a liver not functioning properly. Endocrine imbalance. Mineral and vitamin deficiency. So, lots of reasons but very rarely caused by lack of hygeine. has had some very odd moles. Still has several. He has 2 fairly large ones in his hair. (Parasites in the brain?) I use to have lots of brown spots on my hands, and lots of freckels, moles, raised weird bumps, i had warts as a kid. I have never had beautiful normal skin without a tan or makeup You want to paint (Lugols Iodine diluted might be best with a little mag oil or coconut oil) anything that isnt normal skin. Be sure to consider any painting you do as part of the total dosage. Dot dot dot. laughs when i do the dots. Moms just hiliarious. Within the autism community there seems to be alot of parents, grandparents or adults Dxd(or suspected) Autism(mostly aspie), Bipolar, ADHD, Schizophrenia, depression, panic disorders, tons of auto-immune disorders. I dont think i have met a healthy mom or dad of an autistic child. course by the time i have met them they have an autism dx in their kid so they arent at their best health wise. It's just something that i have noticed over the years and kept thinking it was related. Different manifestations of the same root cause. Cheryl > > > > Cheryl, can you tell me what you know about moles and and tags?  They run on > my mom's side. I have them. My boys have them. They're popping up more and more > on the boys as they get older. I always wondered if it was a sign of something > (my mother's side of the family is c-r-a-zy....lol, but seriously...) Is it a > sign of deficiency?    -tammy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 6, 2011 Report Share Posted March 6, 2011 Yes it is. There are several theorys about skin abnormalities. Basically anything that isnt smooth normal skin is an abnormality. Acne is an abnormality. Boils. Some think its fungus. Some are viral. Some Candida. Other Inner bacteria. Abnormal skin can be a sign of a liver not functioning properly. Endocrine imbalance. Mineral and vitamin deficiency. So, lots of reasons but very rarely caused by lack of hygeine. has had some very odd moles. Still has several. He has 2 fairly large ones in his hair. (Parasites in the brain?) I use to have lots of brown spots on my hands, and lots of freckels, moles, raised weird bumps, i had warts as a kid. I have never had beautiful normal skin without a tan or makeup You want to paint (Lugols Iodine diluted might be best with a little mag oil or coconut oil) anything that isnt normal skin. Be sure to consider any painting you do as part of the total dosage. Dot dot dot. laughs when i do the dots. Moms just hiliarious. Within the autism community there seems to be alot of parents, grandparents or adults Dxd(or suspected) Autism(mostly aspie), Bipolar, ADHD, Schizophrenia, depression, panic disorders, tons of auto-immune disorders. I dont think i have met a healthy mom or dad of an autistic child. course by the time i have met them they have an autism dx in their kid so they arent at their best health wise. It's just something that i have noticed over the years and kept thinking it was related. Different manifestations of the same root cause. Cheryl > > > > Cheryl, can you tell me what you know about moles and and tags?  They run on > my mom's side. I have them. My boys have them. They're popping up more and more > on the boys as they get older. I always wondered if it was a sign of something > (my mother's side of the family is c-r-a-zy....lol, but seriously...) Is it a > sign of deficiency?    -tammy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 6, 2011 Report Share Posted March 6, 2011 Yes it is. There are several theorys about skin abnormalities. Basically anything that isnt smooth normal skin is an abnormality. Acne is an abnormality. Boils. Some think its fungus. Some are viral. Some Candida. Other Inner bacteria. Abnormal skin can be a sign of a liver not functioning properly. Endocrine imbalance. Mineral and vitamin deficiency. So, lots of reasons but very rarely caused by lack of hygeine. has had some very odd moles. Still has several. He has 2 fairly large ones in his hair. (Parasites in the brain?) I use to have lots of brown spots on my hands, and lots of freckels, moles, raised weird bumps, i had warts as a kid. I have never had beautiful normal skin without a tan or makeup You want to paint (Lugols Iodine diluted might be best with a little mag oil or coconut oil) anything that isnt normal skin. Be sure to consider any painting you do as part of the total dosage. Dot dot dot. laughs when i do the dots. Moms just hiliarious. Within the autism community there seems to be alot of parents, grandparents or adults Dxd(or suspected) Autism(mostly aspie), Bipolar, ADHD, Schizophrenia, depression, panic disorders, tons of auto-immune disorders. I dont think i have met a healthy mom or dad of an autistic child. course by the time i have met them they have an autism dx in their kid so they arent at their best health wise. It's just something that i have noticed over the years and kept thinking it was related. Different manifestations of the same root cause. Cheryl > > > > Cheryl, can you tell me what you know about moles and and tags?  They run on > my mom's side. I have them. My boys have them. They're popping up more and more > on the boys as they get older. I always wondered if it was a sign of something > (my mother's side of the family is c-r-a-zy....lol, but seriously...) Is it a > sign of deficiency?    -tammy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 6, 2011 Report Share Posted March 6, 2011 Tammy,I had to laugh at your post. I have a lot of little skin-tag-ish moles too, and lots of those tiny raised red ones. My mom has them too, and like you, my mom's side is also crazy with a capital C. Maybe we should look into this! - Kirk-To: mb12 valtrex From: t.lynn28@...Date: Sun, 6 Mar 2011 09:47:49 -0800Subject: Re: Re: Iodine Cheryl, can you tell me what you know about moles and and tags? They run on my mom's side. I have them. My boys have them. They're popping up more and more on the boys as they get older. I always wondered if it was a sign of something (my mother's side of the family is c-r-a-zy....lol, but seriously...) Is it a sign of deficiency? -tammy To: mb12 valtrex Sent: Sun, March 6, 2011 11:49:47 AMSubject: Re: Iodine A speedy metabolism is good as long as the nutrients are being utilized. If he is having to eat 10 thousand calories to function, it might be too speedy. If he is eating just a little above normal(swimming burns those calories!) and he has no issues then its probably good. If muscles are good-well defined not soft, digestion is good, energy level is good, skin(no moles,tags,rashes) hair and nails are normal, no colds, flu or allergy. No worm sign. No depression, anxiety, irrational fears. No OCD, hyper or manic behavior. Little to no body fat. Regular sleep patterns. If all of those are good a person is probably healthy. Someone else may have a different definition of healthy, thats mine. So look at the body as a package of all those areas, then decide if you see complete health or there might be diet changes ( learn about oxalates and goitrogens, others depending on symptoms) or vitamins, minerals needed to reach it. Healthy people tend to not have the halide buildup in cells, so they are already more Iodine saturated. There isnt the need to do the high dose Iodine protocol. The 12.5 mg is usually recommended as a maintenance dosage, you may need less because you weigh less. If you have issues you may need more, and/or diet changes. Iodine supplementation still needs to be in conjunction with a comprehensive nutritional program including minerals and vitamins or the equivelent in food. Cheryl>> I think so. We are all pretty thin. I am the heaviest looking in the family and I'm 5'6" 120 lbs. My son is very thin 4'8" 60 lbs. He has a killer metabolism but needs iodine to offset all his pool ( chlorine ) exposure. For me it caused die off and then made me feel better.> > Sent from my iPhone > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 6, 2011 Report Share Posted March 6, 2011 When I was pregnant with my son I had a bunch of skin tags form in my arm pits. After he was born they went away. At birth we found out that I have three sets of rare recessive platelets and my immune system was attacking his dominant platelets as he was forming inside me. He was born with a critically low count of platelets and he had to have platelet transfusions and IVIG transfusions for a week after he was born. After 4 days he started to form platelets on his own and was able to go home within a week.My skin tags went away after he was born and I have not had any more since. Oddly enough I also had a rash on both hands that went away while I was pregnant with Stan, but the rash came back again after he was born.I don't get sick very often and when I do I usually get well quite quickly. I think both skin tags and my rash have something to do with my immune system.  Cheryl, can you tell me what you know about moles and and tags?  They run on my mom's side. I have them. My boys have them. They're popping up more and more on the boys as they get older. I always wondered if it was a sign of something (my mother's side of the family is c-r-a-zy....lol, but seriously...) Is it a sign of deficiency?    -tammyFrom: Cheryl To: mb12 valtrex Sent: Sun, March 6, 2011 11:49:47 AMSubject: Re: Iodine A speedy metabolism is good as long as the nutrients are being utilized. If he is having to eat 10 thousand calories to function, it might be too speedy. If he is eating just a little above normal(swimming burns those calories!) and he has no issues then its probably good. If muscles are good-well defined not soft, digestion is good, energy level is good, skin(no moles,tags,rashes) hair and nails are normal, no colds, flu or allergy. No worm sign. No depression, anxiety, irrational fears. No OCD, hyper or manic behavior. Little to no body fat. Regular sleep patterns. If all of those are good a person is probably healthy. Someone else may have a different definition of healthy, thats mine. So look at the body as a package of all those areas, then decide if you see complete health or there might be diet changes ( learn about oxalates and goitrogens, others depending on symptoms) or vitamins, minerals needed to reach it. Healthy people tend to not have the halide buildup in cells, so they are already more Iodine saturated. There isnt the need to do the high dose Iodine protocol. The 12.5 mg is usually recommended as a maintenance dosage, you may need less because you weigh less. If you have issues you may need more, and/or diet changes. Iodine supplementation still needs to be in conjunction with a comprehensive nutritional program including minerals and vitamins or the equivelent in food. Cheryl>> I think so. We are all pretty thin. I am the heaviest looking in the family and I'm 5'6" 120 lbs. My son is very thin 4'8" 60 lbs. He has a killer metabolism but needs iodine to offset all his pool ( chlorine ) exposure. For me it caused die off and then made me feel better.> > Sent from my iPhone > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 6, 2011 Report Share Posted March 6, 2011 When I was pregnant with my son I had a bunch of skin tags form in my arm pits. After he was born they went away. At birth we found out that I have three sets of rare recessive platelets and my immune system was attacking his dominant platelets as he was forming inside me. He was born with a critically low count of platelets and he had to have platelet transfusions and IVIG transfusions for a week after he was born. After 4 days he started to form platelets on his own and was able to go home within a week.My skin tags went away after he was born and I have not had any more since. Oddly enough I also had a rash on both hands that went away while I was pregnant with Stan, but the rash came back again after he was born.I don't get sick very often and when I do I usually get well quite quickly. I think both skin tags and my rash have something to do with my immune system.  Cheryl, can you tell me what you know about moles and and tags?  They run on my mom's side. I have them. My boys have them. They're popping up more and more on the boys as they get older. I always wondered if it was a sign of something (my mother's side of the family is c-r-a-zy....lol, but seriously...) Is it a sign of deficiency?    -tammyFrom: Cheryl To: mb12 valtrex Sent: Sun, March 6, 2011 11:49:47 AMSubject: Re: Iodine A speedy metabolism is good as long as the nutrients are being utilized. If he is having to eat 10 thousand calories to function, it might be too speedy. If he is eating just a little above normal(swimming burns those calories!) and he has no issues then its probably good. If muscles are good-well defined not soft, digestion is good, energy level is good, skin(no moles,tags,rashes) hair and nails are normal, no colds, flu or allergy. No worm sign. No depression, anxiety, irrational fears. No OCD, hyper or manic behavior. Little to no body fat. Regular sleep patterns. If all of those are good a person is probably healthy. Someone else may have a different definition of healthy, thats mine. So look at the body as a package of all those areas, then decide if you see complete health or there might be diet changes ( learn about oxalates and goitrogens, others depending on symptoms) or vitamins, minerals needed to reach it. Healthy people tend to not have the halide buildup in cells, so they are already more Iodine saturated. There isnt the need to do the high dose Iodine protocol. The 12.5 mg is usually recommended as a maintenance dosage, you may need less because you weigh less. If you have issues you may need more, and/or diet changes. Iodine supplementation still needs to be in conjunction with a comprehensive nutritional program including minerals and vitamins or the equivelent in food. Cheryl>> I think so. We are all pretty thin. I am the heaviest looking in the family and I'm 5'6" 120 lbs. My son is very thin 4'8" 60 lbs. He has a killer metabolism but needs iodine to offset all his pool ( chlorine ) exposure. For me it caused die off and then made me feel better.> > Sent from my iPhone > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 6, 2011 Report Share Posted March 6, 2011 When I was pregnant with my son I had a bunch of skin tags form in my arm pits. After he was born they went away. At birth we found out that I have three sets of rare recessive platelets and my immune system was attacking his dominant platelets as he was forming inside me. He was born with a critically low count of platelets and he had to have platelet transfusions and IVIG transfusions for a week after he was born. After 4 days he started to form platelets on his own and was able to go home within a week.My skin tags went away after he was born and I have not had any more since. Oddly enough I also had a rash on both hands that went away while I was pregnant with Stan, but the rash came back again after he was born.I don't get sick very often and when I do I usually get well quite quickly. I think both skin tags and my rash have something to do with my immune system.  Cheryl, can you tell me what you know about moles and and tags?  They run on my mom's side. I have them. My boys have them. They're popping up more and more on the boys as they get older. I always wondered if it was a sign of something (my mother's side of the family is c-r-a-zy....lol, but seriously...) Is it a sign of deficiency?    -tammyFrom: Cheryl To: mb12 valtrex Sent: Sun, March 6, 2011 11:49:47 AMSubject: Re: Iodine A speedy metabolism is good as long as the nutrients are being utilized. If he is having to eat 10 thousand calories to function, it might be too speedy. If he is eating just a little above normal(swimming burns those calories!) and he has no issues then its probably good. If muscles are good-well defined not soft, digestion is good, energy level is good, skin(no moles,tags,rashes) hair and nails are normal, no colds, flu or allergy. No worm sign. No depression, anxiety, irrational fears. No OCD, hyper or manic behavior. Little to no body fat. Regular sleep patterns. If all of those are good a person is probably healthy. Someone else may have a different definition of healthy, thats mine. So look at the body as a package of all those areas, then decide if you see complete health or there might be diet changes ( learn about oxalates and goitrogens, others depending on symptoms) or vitamins, minerals needed to reach it. Healthy people tend to not have the halide buildup in cells, so they are already more Iodine saturated. There isnt the need to do the high dose Iodine protocol. The 12.5 mg is usually recommended as a maintenance dosage, you may need less because you weigh less. If you have issues you may need more, and/or diet changes. Iodine supplementation still needs to be in conjunction with a comprehensive nutritional program including minerals and vitamins or the equivelent in food. Cheryl>> I think so. We are all pretty thin. I am the heaviest looking in the family and I'm 5'6" 120 lbs. My son is very thin 4'8" 60 lbs. He has a killer metabolism but needs iodine to offset all his pool ( chlorine ) exposure. For me it caused die off and then made me feel better.> > Sent from my iPhone > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 6, 2011 Report Share Posted March 6, 2011 I am actually sort of concerned about that, but I really just think johns family( and therefore our son Heyward ) are just thin people.I thin because I run. When I was pregnant with our son i somehow had their metabolism. I could eat an entire pizza & salad & popcorn at the movies. ... Embarrased my husband. He called me the bull moose but I wasn't all that huge- only gained 30 lbs. I did go looking for the co q 10 the other day though... Sent from my iPhone Maybe you all have tape worms? > > Please could you answer this question. Can someone who is very thin still need iodine? My family are all very thin and I thought you tended toward being overweight if you didn't have enough iodine. My daughter has the same body type, tall and willowy. Thanks, Kim > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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