Re: (unknown)

[Guest guest]

I'm only in my early 20's and was just diagnosed two years ago. My nephs have

all been positive that some day I may just be able to carry children. Not now

due to all the meds, but some day in the future. So don't give up hope just

yet. You never know what miracle, big or small, God may send your way. Jen

(unknown)

Hi I have just been diagnosed with IGAN. I was devasted to learn that it will

probably mean I will not be able to have children. I would like to hear from

anyone that has had children with the disease.

Sue

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[Guest guest]

I'm only in my early 20's and was just diagnosed two years ago. My nephs have

all been positive that some day I may just be able to carry children. Not now

due to all the meds, but some day in the future. So don't give up hope just

yet. You never know what miracle, big or small, God may send your way. Jen

(unknown)

Hi I have just been diagnosed with IGAN. I was devasted to learn that it will

probably mean I will not be able to have children. I would like to hear from

anyone that has had children with the disease.

Sue

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[Guest guest]

Hi Gaby.

I don't know about having a baby. It would depend on a lot of things re

blood pressure, proteinuria, kidney function. Your age might be a factor too

(not that you're very old, but it's getting up there in terms of having

babies AND having kidney disease). The risk of worsening kidney failure is

quite real (plus there are other risks as well). There's a little more

information I've posted about pregnancy on www.igan.ca

By the way, do keep in mind that you absolutely cannot be on certain blood

pressure medications if you plan on getting pregnant. So, please discuss

that with your doctor. Some BP meds will almost certainly harm the fetus.

I really don't want to get into this argument (that is, the value of a

vegetarian diet), but if you do choose to eat a vegetarian diet, be sure to

get enough protein and vitamin B12. As far as medical treatment goes,

controlling blood pressure is the single most important aspect of slowing

progression of kidney disease.

Pierre

(unknown)

> Dear Friends,

>

> I am 34 year old, woman, married, no children. And I have a lot of

> whishes to live yet. Few days ago, on March 26 I had a renal biopsy

> and Dr told me I have Berger disease (IgAN)

>

> The only thing that I am doing is controlling my Blood Pressure and

> taking Fish Oil. For my side I am changing my diet to a more

> vegetarian one. But I know that I am not doing everything I could.

>

> I'd like to know something else! I am in PANIC and SHOCK!

>

> One of my strong dreams is to be mother, I really want to have a

> baby and now....... (

>

> Hope hearing from you soon.

>

> Kisses,

>

> Gaby

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Gaby.

I don't know about having a baby. It would depend on a lot of things re

blood pressure, proteinuria, kidney function. Your age might be a factor too

(not that you're very old, but it's getting up there in terms of having

babies AND having kidney disease). The risk of worsening kidney failure is

quite real (plus there are other risks as well). There's a little more

information I've posted about pregnancy on www.igan.ca

By the way, do keep in mind that you absolutely cannot be on certain blood

pressure medications if you plan on getting pregnant. So, please discuss

that with your doctor. Some BP meds will almost certainly harm the fetus.

I really don't want to get into this argument (that is, the value of a

vegetarian diet), but if you do choose to eat a vegetarian diet, be sure to

get enough protein and vitamin B12. As far as medical treatment goes,

controlling blood pressure is the single most important aspect of slowing

progression of kidney disease.

Pierre

(unknown)

> Dear Friends,

>

> I am 34 year old, woman, married, no children. And I have a lot of

> whishes to live yet. Few days ago, on March 26 I had a renal biopsy

> and Dr told me I have Berger disease (IgAN)

>

> The only thing that I am doing is controlling my Blood Pressure and

> taking Fish Oil. For my side I am changing my diet to a more

> vegetarian one. But I know that I am not doing everything I could.

>

> I'd like to know something else! I am in PANIC and SHOCK!

>

> One of my strong dreams is to be mother, I really want to have a

> baby and now....... (

>

> Hope hearing from you soon.

>

> Kisses,

>

> Gaby

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Gaby.

I don't know about having a baby. It would depend on a lot of things re

blood pressure, proteinuria, kidney function. Your age might be a factor too

(not that you're very old, but it's getting up there in terms of having

babies AND having kidney disease). The risk of worsening kidney failure is

quite real (plus there are other risks as well). There's a little more

information I've posted about pregnancy on www.igan.ca

By the way, do keep in mind that you absolutely cannot be on certain blood

pressure medications if you plan on getting pregnant. So, please discuss

that with your doctor. Some BP meds will almost certainly harm the fetus.

I really don't want to get into this argument (that is, the value of a

vegetarian diet), but if you do choose to eat a vegetarian diet, be sure to

get enough protein and vitamin B12. As far as medical treatment goes,

controlling blood pressure is the single most important aspect of slowing

progression of kidney disease.

Pierre

(unknown)

> Dear Friends,

>

> I am 34 year old, woman, married, no children. And I have a lot of

> whishes to live yet. Few days ago, on March 26 I had a renal biopsy

> and Dr told me I have Berger disease (IgAN)

>

> The only thing that I am doing is controlling my Blood Pressure and

> taking Fish Oil. For my side I am changing my diet to a more

> vegetarian one. But I know that I am not doing everything I could.

>

> I'd like to know something else! I am in PANIC and SHOCK!

>

> One of my strong dreams is to be mother, I really want to have a

> baby and now....... (

>

> Hope hearing from you soon.

>

> Kisses,

>

> Gaby

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Gaby,

The Panic and Shock thing is normal....I think I cried every day

for the first few weeks after my diagnosis. Let yourself go thru these

feelings, it's the brains way of sorting things out. You'll also find

the more you learn about this disease the more comfortable you'll become

with it. Read everything you can and ask as many questions as you

possibly can of your doctor....then ask as many questions as you want

here, someone will be able to answer you or point you in the direction

of an answer.

Like others have said there are many women here who have had

(high risk) pregnancies and have done well thru them. Only your

nepthrologist and OB will know exactly what your situation is though.

Talk to them about it and push for the answers you need.

I'd also like to stress what Pierre said about a vegetarian

diet. If you are thinking of going this route please speak with a

dietician first. I am a vegetarian (near vegan) and it is VERY hard to

get the proper protein levels into a vegetarian RENAL diet due to the

fact that most of the high protein sources for vegetarians are also high

in potassium....many too high in potassium for a renal diet. B12 also

needs to be supplemented on a daily basis for vegetarians. It can be

done but it needs to be done correctly or you will become malnourished.

Hang in there and know you aren't alone. We've all gone thru

grief, anger, depression, shock and panic and we understand.

Amy

(unknown)

> Dear Friends,

>

> I am 34 year old, woman, married, no children. And I have a lot of

> whishes to live yet. Few days ago, on March 26 I had a renal biopsy

> and Dr told me I have Berger disease (IgAN)

>

> The only thing that I am doing is controlling my Blood Pressure and

> taking Fish Oil. For my side I am changing my diet to a more

> vegetarian one. But I know that I am not doing everything I could.

>

> I'd like to know something else! I am in PANIC and SHOCK!

>

> One of my strong dreams is to be mother, I really want to have a

> baby and now....... (

>

> Hope hearing from you soon.

>

> Kisses,

>

> Gaby

>

>

>

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[Guest guest]

Hi Gaby,

The Panic and Shock thing is normal....I think I cried every day

for the first few weeks after my diagnosis. Let yourself go thru these

feelings, it's the brains way of sorting things out. You'll also find

the more you learn about this disease the more comfortable you'll become

with it. Read everything you can and ask as many questions as you

possibly can of your doctor....then ask as many questions as you want

here, someone will be able to answer you or point you in the direction

of an answer.

Like others have said there are many women here who have had

(high risk) pregnancies and have done well thru them. Only your

nepthrologist and OB will know exactly what your situation is though.

Talk to them about it and push for the answers you need.

I'd also like to stress what Pierre said about a vegetarian

diet. If you are thinking of going this route please speak with a

dietician first. I am a vegetarian (near vegan) and it is VERY hard to

get the proper protein levels into a vegetarian RENAL diet due to the

fact that most of the high protein sources for vegetarians are also high

in potassium....many too high in potassium for a renal diet. B12 also

needs to be supplemented on a daily basis for vegetarians. It can be

done but it needs to be done correctly or you will become malnourished.

Hang in there and know you aren't alone. We've all gone thru

grief, anger, depression, shock and panic and we understand.

Amy

(unknown)

> Dear Friends,

>

> I am 34 year old, woman, married, no children. And I have a lot of

> whishes to live yet. Few days ago, on March 26 I had a renal biopsy

> and Dr told me I have Berger disease (IgAN)

>

> The only thing that I am doing is controlling my Blood Pressure and

> taking Fish Oil. For my side I am changing my diet to a more

> vegetarian one. But I know that I am not doing everything I could.

>

> I'd like to know something else! I am in PANIC and SHOCK!

>

> One of my strong dreams is to be mother, I really want to have a

> baby and now....... (

>

> Hope hearing from you soon.

>

> Kisses,

>

> Gaby

>

>

>

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[Guest guest]

Hi Gaby,

The Panic and Shock thing is normal....I think I cried every day

for the first few weeks after my diagnosis. Let yourself go thru these

feelings, it's the brains way of sorting things out. You'll also find

the more you learn about this disease the more comfortable you'll become

with it. Read everything you can and ask as many questions as you

possibly can of your doctor....then ask as many questions as you want

here, someone will be able to answer you or point you in the direction

of an answer.

Like others have said there are many women here who have had

(high risk) pregnancies and have done well thru them. Only your

nepthrologist and OB will know exactly what your situation is though.

Talk to them about it and push for the answers you need.

I'd also like to stress what Pierre said about a vegetarian

diet. If you are thinking of going this route please speak with a

dietician first. I am a vegetarian (near vegan) and it is VERY hard to

get the proper protein levels into a vegetarian RENAL diet due to the

fact that most of the high protein sources for vegetarians are also high

in potassium....many too high in potassium for a renal diet. B12 also

needs to be supplemented on a daily basis for vegetarians. It can be

done but it needs to be done correctly or you will become malnourished.

Hang in there and know you aren't alone. We've all gone thru

grief, anger, depression, shock and panic and we understand.

Amy

(unknown)

> Dear Friends,

>

> I am 34 year old, woman, married, no children. And I have a lot of

> whishes to live yet. Few days ago, on March 26 I had a renal biopsy

> and Dr told me I have Berger disease (IgAN)

>

> The only thing that I am doing is controlling my Blood Pressure and

> taking Fish Oil. For my side I am changing my diet to a more

> vegetarian one. But I know that I am not doing everything I could.

>

> I'd like to know something else! I am in PANIC and SHOCK!

>

> One of my strong dreams is to be mother, I really want to have a

> baby and now....... (

>

> Hope hearing from you soon.

>

> Kisses,

>

> Gaby

>

>

>

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Dear Gaby,

We are both in the same boat, only I was diagnosed 2 months ago, and I'm 30.

We still want to have children and I haven't given up on it yet . .. .

..

_____

From: gaby_portas

Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2004 11:29 PM

To: iga-nephropathy

Subject: (unknown)

Dear Friends,

I am 34 year old, woman, married, no children. And I have a lot of

whishes to live yet. Few days ago, on March 26 I had a renal biopsy

and Dr told me I have Berger disease (IgAN)

The only thing that I am doing is controlling my Blood Pressure and

taking Fish Oil. For my side I am changing my diet to a more

vegetarian one. But I know that I am not doing everything I could.

I'd like to know something else! I am in PANIC and SHOCK!

One of my strong dreams is to be mother, I really want to have a

baby and now....... (

Hope hearing from you soon.

Kisses,

Gaby

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Dear Gaby,

We are both in the same boat, only I was diagnosed 2 months ago, and I'm 30.

We still want to have children and I haven't given up on it yet . .. .

..

_____

From: gaby_portas

Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2004 11:29 PM

To: iga-nephropathy

Subject: (unknown)

Dear Friends,

I am 34 year old, woman, married, no children. And I have a lot of

whishes to live yet. Few days ago, on March 26 I had a renal biopsy

and Dr told me I have Berger disease (IgAN)

The only thing that I am doing is controlling my Blood Pressure and

taking Fish Oil. For my side I am changing my diet to a more

vegetarian one. But I know that I am not doing everything I could.

I'd like to know something else! I am in PANIC and SHOCK!

One of my strong dreams is to be mother, I really want to have a

baby and now....... (

Hope hearing from you soon.

Kisses,

Gaby

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[Guest guest]

Thank you, Donna. I appreciate the kind thoughts and words.

I feel I just have to fill you in on my personality. Please take this in

the gentle and friendly manner it is intended as I don't want you

operating in the dark. You'll soon learn I have a twisted sense of

humor and laugh whenever I can. I am chuckling over this phrase of

yours " HOPE YOU ARE ABLE TO GET BACK TO EXERCISING

LIKE YOU USED TO. " , Karla and Melody and a few others on

the list are chuckling if not downright splitting their sides over this

one. I HATE walking or any exercise unless there is a pleasant

destination or reason for it! Walking for the sake exercise or better

health just doesn't fit my definition of fun! I mean, what's the point in

walking a certain distance only to turn around and go back to get to

where you started?????? My goodness, I could be sitting in my

recliner watching people on TV doing home renovations or

something else productive. As it is, I'm walking with my

granddaughter looking at every bug, leaf, tree and bird that interests

her. While being with her is fun and exciting, I can only get excited

over a certain number of roly-poly bugs crossing the street! While

she's examing the bugs and asking me the names of all the plants

and birds we see, I'm trying to figure out who has the nicest lawn

and wondering how much their yard people charge them to keep it

that nice and wondering if I can afford them. That's pitiful, isn't it? I

just HATE walking!!!!!!!!!!!!

Kindest regards,

Kathleen

> KATHLEEN, HOPE YOU ARE GETTING BACK TO NORMAL AND ARE ABLE TO GET BACK

> TO EXERCISING LIKE YOU USED TO.

>

>

> (((HUGS)))

> DONNA

[Guest guest]

Thank you, Donna. I appreciate the kind thoughts and words.

I feel I just have to fill you in on my personality. Please take this in

the gentle and friendly manner it is intended as I don't want you

operating in the dark. You'll soon learn I have a twisted sense of

humor and laugh whenever I can. I am chuckling over this phrase of

yours " HOPE YOU ARE ABLE TO GET BACK TO EXERCISING

LIKE YOU USED TO. " , Karla and Melody and a few others on

the list are chuckling if not downright splitting their sides over this

one. I HATE walking or any exercise unless there is a pleasant

destination or reason for it! Walking for the sake exercise or better

health just doesn't fit my definition of fun! I mean, what's the point in

walking a certain distance only to turn around and go back to get to

where you started?????? My goodness, I could be sitting in my

recliner watching people on TV doing home renovations or

something else productive. As it is, I'm walking with my

granddaughter looking at every bug, leaf, tree and bird that interests

her. While being with her is fun and exciting, I can only get excited

over a certain number of roly-poly bugs crossing the street! While

she's examing the bugs and asking me the names of all the plants

and birds we see, I'm trying to figure out who has the nicest lawn

and wondering how much their yard people charge them to keep it

that nice and wondering if I can afford them. That's pitiful, isn't it? I

just HATE walking!!!!!!!!!!!!

Kindest regards,

Kathleen

> KATHLEEN, HOPE YOU ARE GETTING BACK TO NORMAL AND ARE ABLE TO GET BACK

> TO EXERCISING LIKE YOU USED TO.

>

>

> (((HUGS)))

> DONNA

[Guest guest]

Thank you, Donna. I appreciate the kind thoughts and words.

I feel I just have to fill you in on my personality. Please take this in

the gentle and friendly manner it is intended as I don't want you

operating in the dark. You'll soon learn I have a twisted sense of

humor and laugh whenever I can. I am chuckling over this phrase of

yours " HOPE YOU ARE ABLE TO GET BACK TO EXERCISING

LIKE YOU USED TO. " , Karla and Melody and a few others on

the list are chuckling if not downright splitting their sides over this

one. I HATE walking or any exercise unless there is a pleasant

destination or reason for it! Walking for the sake exercise or better

health just doesn't fit my definition of fun! I mean, what's the point in

walking a certain distance only to turn around and go back to get to

where you started?????? My goodness, I could be sitting in my

recliner watching people on TV doing home renovations or

something else productive. As it is, I'm walking with my

granddaughter looking at every bug, leaf, tree and bird that interests

her. While being with her is fun and exciting, I can only get excited

over a certain number of roly-poly bugs crossing the street! While

she's examing the bugs and asking me the names of all the plants

and birds we see, I'm trying to figure out who has the nicest lawn

and wondering how much their yard people charge them to keep it

that nice and wondering if I can afford them. That's pitiful, isn't it? I

just HATE walking!!!!!!!!!!!!

Kindest regards,

Kathleen

> KATHLEEN, HOPE YOU ARE GETTING BACK TO NORMAL AND ARE ABLE TO GET BACK

> TO EXERCISING LIKE YOU USED TO.

>

>

> (((HUGS)))

> DONNA

[Guest guest]

Kathleen,

You and I take the same kind of walks. lol My Zoey (2) is my "excercise partner" so you KNOW what kind of excerciser I am. But I do enjoy her view of the world on our treks. Yesterday I noticed for the first time a maple leaf landed on the sidewalk when it was being make and left a print, it looks so pretty.

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[Guest guest]

Kathleen,

You and I take the same kind of walks. lol My Zoey (2) is my "excercise partner" so you KNOW what kind of excerciser I am. But I do enjoy her view of the world on our treks. Yesterday I noticed for the first time a maple leaf landed on the sidewalk when it was being make and left a print, it looks so pretty.

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[Guest guest]

Kathleen,

You and I take the same kind of walks. lol My Zoey (2) is my "excercise partner" so you KNOW what kind of excerciser I am. But I do enjoy her view of the world on our treks. Yesterday I noticed for the first time a maple leaf landed on the sidewalk when it was being make and left a print, it looks so pretty.

Aggie TX-SA #1772 Lone Star Sassy Lassies

Yahoo! Mail Stay connected, organized, and protected. Take the tour

[Guest guest]

KATHLEEN, THANKS FOR FILLING ME IN. I probably had you confused with someone who

had phnemonia recently and was trying to get back to walking. Sorry if ,

Karla and Melody were LOL at you. At least your are enjoying the outdoors with

your grandaughter. That is some sort of exercise. It is called exploring the

outdoors!!!!!See you do exercise! Maybe you and your grandaughter can act like

bugs, birds, leaves and whatever else you are exploring>LOL I think it would be

fun and it would help your grandaughter learn and have fun with you tooo!!! Oh,

I will try to learn your twisted sense of humor. If I don't see right away, I

only hope the others will help me see what your mean. I still appreciate your

e-mails and love you even though you don't like exercising.

((((((Hugs)))))) I gave you some extra hugs! ;-)

Donna

Re: (unknown)

Thank you, Donna. I appreciate the kind thoughts and words.

I feel I just have to fill you in on my personality. Please take this in

the gentle and friendly manner it is intended as I don't want you

operating in the dark. You'll soon learn I have a twisted sense of

humor and laugh whenever I can. I am chuckling over this phrase of

yours " HOPE YOU ARE ABLE TO GET BACK TO EXERCISING

LIKE YOU USED TO. " , Karla and Melody and a few others on

the list are chuckling if not downright splitting their sides over this

one. I HATE walking or any exercise unless there is a pleasant

destination or reason for it! Walking for the sake exercise or better

health just doesn't fit my definition of fun! I mean, what's the point in

walking a certain distance only to turn around and go back to get to

where you started?????? My goodness, I could be sitting in my

recliner watching people on TV doing home renovations or

something else productive. As it is, I'm walking with my

granddaughter looking at every bug, leaf, tree and bird that interests

her. While being with her is fun and exciting, I can only get excited

over a certain number of roly-poly bugs crossing the street! While

she's examing the bugs and asking me the names of all the plants

and birds we see, I'm trying to figure out who has the nicest lawn

and wondering how much their yard people charge them to keep it

that nice and wondering if I can afford them. That's pitiful, isn't it? I

just HATE walking!!!!!!!!!!!!

Kindest regards,

Kathleen

> KATHLEEN, HOPE YOU ARE GETTING BACK TO NORMAL AND ARE ABLE TO GET BACK

> TO EXERCISING LIKE YOU USED TO.

>

>

> (((HUGS)))

> DONNA

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[Guest guest]

KATHLEEN, THANKS FOR FILLING ME IN. I probably had you confused with someone who

had phnemonia recently and was trying to get back to walking. Sorry if ,

Karla and Melody were LOL at you. At least your are enjoying the outdoors with

your grandaughter. That is some sort of exercise. It is called exploring the

outdoors!!!!!See you do exercise! Maybe you and your grandaughter can act like

bugs, birds, leaves and whatever else you are exploring>LOL I think it would be

fun and it would help your grandaughter learn and have fun with you tooo!!! Oh,

I will try to learn your twisted sense of humor. If I don't see right away, I

only hope the others will help me see what your mean. I still appreciate your

e-mails and love you even though you don't like exercising.

((((((Hugs)))))) I gave you some extra hugs! ;-)

Donna

Re: (unknown)

Thank you, Donna. I appreciate the kind thoughts and words.

I feel I just have to fill you in on my personality. Please take this in

the gentle and friendly manner it is intended as I don't want you

operating in the dark. You'll soon learn I have a twisted sense of

humor and laugh whenever I can. I am chuckling over this phrase of

yours " HOPE YOU ARE ABLE TO GET BACK TO EXERCISING

LIKE YOU USED TO. " , Karla and Melody and a few others on

the list are chuckling if not downright splitting their sides over this

one. I HATE walking or any exercise unless there is a pleasant

destination or reason for it! Walking for the sake exercise or better

health just doesn't fit my definition of fun! I mean, what's the point in

walking a certain distance only to turn around and go back to get to

where you started?????? My goodness, I could be sitting in my

recliner watching people on TV doing home renovations or

something else productive. As it is, I'm walking with my

granddaughter looking at every bug, leaf, tree and bird that interests

her. While being with her is fun and exciting, I can only get excited

over a certain number of roly-poly bugs crossing the street! While

she's examing the bugs and asking me the names of all the plants

and birds we see, I'm trying to figure out who has the nicest lawn

and wondering how much their yard people charge them to keep it

that nice and wondering if I can afford them. That's pitiful, isn't it? I

just HATE walking!!!!!!!!!!!!

Kindest regards,

Kathleen

> KATHLEEN, HOPE YOU ARE GETTING BACK TO NORMAL AND ARE ABLE TO GET BACK

> TO EXERCISING LIKE YOU USED TO.

>

>

> (((HUGS)))

> DONNA

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[Guest guest]

Hi le,

I will be sending out a mass emailing asking everyone but I AM printing out all yes responses I have been getting the last few days.

Hugs

nne

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(unknown)

I want to stay aboard also, if this is the way we are supposed to be letting you know. Thank you, nne

[Guest guest]

Coolio!!! Then count me in!! :)charles svihlik wrote:

Hi le,

I will be sending out a mass emailing asking everyone but I AM printing out all yes responses I have been getting the last few days.

Hugs

nne

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I want to stay aboard also, if this is the way we are supposed to be letting you know. Thank you, nne

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I'm in!!!!!!!! love, deb

> Hi le,

> I will be sending out a mass emailing asking everyone but I AM

printing out all yes responses I have been getting the last few days.

> Hugs

> nne

> Breast Cancer Patients Soul Mates for Life

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> Check out my breast cancer ornaments at:

> http://www.geocities.com/chucky5741/bcornament.html

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> I want to stay aboard also, if this is the way we are supposed to

be letting you know. Thank you, nne

>

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Not only adrenals but Thyroid as well. I would suggest the labs from

www.canaryclub.org as they cover the adrenals, thyroid and sex hormones

which are all intertwined.

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I think reading the book " Adrenal Fatigue " by Dr. would be a really

good resource for you and give you lots of detailed explanations which seem to

coincide with a lot of what you'd written here.

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Hey everyone. This is my first post over here since everyone migrated

over from Stopthethyroidmadness. At any rate, I just got done reading

an interesting website about adrenal fatigue and after having read it, I

really need my adrenals tested badly. At one point in the write-up it

said, " If you've ever made the statement 'after___I was never the same'

then you are a suspect for adrenal issues. Let me know if after having

read this, you agree or disagree......and big thanks to whomever takes

the time to read this.

Quick background, I'm a 28 year old male, 185lbs. Up until the age of

20, I had always lived with a little bit of depression/anxiety. Nothing

debilitating, but just enough to remind me that I wasn't at ease with

the way my life was going. During my sophomore year in college, I came

down with mono (Epstein Barr). It took me about 4 or 5 months to

recover. I have to admit, I probably didn't take the rest as serious as

I should've, which wasn't good considering I was taking 5 classes and

was a the pledge class of a fraternity not to mention trying to have a

social life. I noticed after having mono that I didn't quite have the

energy levels I used to and I also developed a sweating problem. I

would literally sweat when I was doing nothing or even when it was cold.

After graduating college in 2002, I didn't know what to do with my life

so I got into the restaurant biz and began waiting tables. For thos

unfamiliar with the line of work, it's extremely taxing. You're on your

feet all day long, high amounts of stress because you're looking after

10 or 20 people at anyone time and trying to maintain control when the

reality of it is alot of things are out of your control. Stimulants are

commonplace for servers, I never dabbled in coffee or drugs or anything

like that, but I will attest my caffeine consumption from soda increased

alot while working in my first restaurant. Once again, I noticed my

energy levels were severely lacking. At one point I even gave up

working out, which was odd for me having always been a 4 to 5 days at

the gym kind of guy.

That particular restaurant decided to promote me to a Developer, which

meant I was to fly around the country opening up new restaurants and

training their front of house staff with usually 6 others and we're

talking about anywhere between 60 to 120 people being trained. Usually

the trips lasted 3 or 4 weeks, 13 hour days. After working all those

hours, since we were in new cities we'd almost always go out at night

for drinks and to decompress, yet we'd have to be right back up at 7am

to do it all over again. It was during these trips that I noticed my

stimulants habits formed. All of the sudden I was drinking lots of

Starbucks and various energy drinks to keep going. I literally had to

have them or I wasn't going to make it through the day. I did a West

Coast swing, where I started in the City of Industry near Los Angeles

and then all the way up into Oregon and then Seattle, Washington. The

timeframe was about 4 months. When I got to Seattle, I noticed around

the 4th day that I wasn't feeling very good. It started as a low-grade

fever then eventually worked it's way up to a full blown fever, body

aches, and a massive infection in my gumline to the point where my gums

were bleeding/inflamed and I could barely eat. Unfortunately I made the

mistake of trying to tough it out because we didn't get paid unless we

worked our hours.

I also made the mistake of going out one of the nights with the training

crew. I was feeling leftout because I had been feeling so crappy and

staying in the hotel when we weren't working. Of course we had drinks

that night, I kind of hoped the " whiskey sweats " might help, it was very

naive of me. Well that night put me over the top. I literally got 3

hours of sleep and had to be ready to rock for another day of training

at 7am. By midday I was ready to topple over. I told the head trainer

I had to go check myself into the hospital. The doctor their didn't

seem too concerned. He just prescribed me some Penicillin 500V tablets

for my infection and told me I needed to rest up. I took the next two

days of work and rested up, but I had to get back to work to make money.

The prescription was helping, just slowly, although my fever had gone

away. I flew back home about a week later and all-in-all it took about

3 weeks total to recover......however, I swear after that trip I haven't

been the same.

About a month or two later, started noticing that I felt bloated all the

darned time, not to mention burping alot. My nose constantly felt

congested. I noticed that if I was ever out late, the very next day I

would sickly. This was a stark contrast from how I used to be. I

switched to a new restaurant where I could make more money working less

days because I was going to attempt to take the LSAT's in order to get

into law school. Didn't work out quite like I had planned as the

restaurant was even more hectic. It was around this time that I started

noticing blood in my stool. I went to the doc and he informed me I had

an internal hemorrhoid. My fatigue levels started hitting all-time

highs. I would literally be driving and nearly passing out on the road.

Unforunately for me life-events were downward spiraling at a ridiculous

rate. I was taxed from waiting tables 50 hours a week, while also

taking classes for my LSAT's. I was torn and juggling mixed emotions

over two girls. An error in judgement one night got me a DUI. My

family life was falling apart as my father's gambling addiction and

introverted nature were taking over. I was stressed out over the

expectations my family all had of me being this top flight lawyer. I

was living paycheck to paycheck, which only got worse when I left the

restaurant industry to take a stab at working for a retail call center

for a mortgage company (think glorified telemarketing sweatshop). My

creditors were calling me nonstop as I fell behind on bills, I mean

we're talking 25+ calls a day. They were literally the only ones

calling me because at this stage I was hiding myself from people. I

barely had enough energy to get through the day and when I got home from

work, I just hid myself in my room, often times scouring the net for

answers to what I was going through.

I noticed many nights where I started feeling shaky. I was constantly

craving sweets after meals. I noticed that when I got up from sitting

down I'd often times feel a brief moment of lightheadedness, sometimes

followed by this strange pinching/aching sensation in my upperback near

my kidneys. I awoke one Sunday morning feeling kind of nauseas and it

persisted for nearly 3 months straight. I was feeling malaised all the

time. Imagine going thru this while you're waiting tables too, it's no

picnic. One night, after I got out of the shower I decided to fire up

the ol' Yahoo search engine one more time in hopes of finding answers.

As I'm clicking my mouse, I noticed this huge bruising or hematoma on my

left arm near where the inside of my forearm meets my elbow. I started

freaking out. I typed in " bruising " in the search engine and that's

when the HIV/AIDS entries started turning up. As I was reading the

symptoms lists I noticed how many of them seemed kind of familiar. My

fear started taking over. I had to get my mind off of this so I turned

to my left to switch on my television. The show " Nip Tuck " was on and

get this - the very scene was of one of the guys talking about the

bruises on a man with AIDS.

I freaked out at this point. I literally sat shaking in pure terror all

night long in my bed. I didn't sleep a wink. All I could think about

was if I had HIV, how was I going to tell people? How was I going to

live? I spent the next year scared to death thinking that I might've

had it and too scared to get tested, along with juggling all those other

problems I was going thru. After finally getting tested, I was relieved

to find out I was negative.

After all that's gone on, I have simply not been anywhere close to my

former self. I can barely get out of bed in the mornings. It's so bad

that somedays I don't even have enough energy to shower before work. My

stomach is a mess and my body aches in all different placed. I'm

depressed and anxious all the time. I just want to be over this

already. Do I sound like a prime " adrenal issue " candidate?

[Guest guest]

Ya I posted them in a reply to Naffy on this thread. Let me know what

you think.

>

> Not only adrenals but Thyroid as well. I would suggest the labs from

> www.canaryclub.org as they cover the adrenals, thyroid and sex

hormones

> which are all intertwined.

>

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> http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/

> http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

>

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Sorry I get individual emails can you resend it with something in the

subject line so I do not miss it?

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