Re: just need to vent

[Guest guest]

Rhonda,

That is awesome that you lost the weight!! I lost 30 pounds last year

but I'm struggling with the belly fat. Since having my daughter it's

been really hard to get rid of that. Then the holidays came and I put

some weight back on. I was told not to do my elliptical which is

the only workout machine I have. I too was told not to run and that I

would never be able to run again. What kind of low impact exercises

did you do? Did you work out at home? I really need to get back into

excersiing again.

Thanks,

>

> I was diagnosed with bilateral pars defect a few months ago. I did

> physical therapy for 6 weeks which helped. I stopped therapy a few

> weeks ago and did good the first 2 weeks being consistent with my

> exercises. Then the holidays came and everything and I've really

> slacked off. The pain started here and there but not severe enough

> that I needed to take my pain killers. Then on Saturday I woke up

> with the sillyest sypmtoms. My left big toe was numb. It was like

> that all day Saturday and Sunday. It was the weirdest thing. Then

> last night I started getting back pain and stiffness. I figured

once

> I got out of bed and walked it off I would feel better. Well that

was

> not the case. I slowly got out of bed and tried to pick up my 2

year

> old and that almost took me to my knees. I'm only 24 years old and

I

> feel so horrible when I can't even pick up my daughter. The pain

> stayed all day long. By 10am I decided to take a pain killer and

> within 1 1/2 hours I needed another. Then by mid afternoon another

> and then right now I took another pill. What in the world could

cause

> such a sudden onset of pain? I couldn't even give my daugheter a

bath

> today and I just wanted to cry. I did manage to take a shower but

> with some pain while bending to wash my legs. My boyfriend says

it's

> probably because I haven't been doing my exercises and I " m sure

that

> has something to do with it. I guess I just hate the fact that I am

> only 24 and this is something I'm going to have to deal with for

the

> rest of my life. I'm literally dreading going to bed right now

cause

> I know I'll wake up in a few hours in pain and with stiffness. I

> dread what it will feel like in the morning. I hope it goes away

just

> as fast as it came.

>

> Sorry for randomly posting. I just didn't have anywhere else to

post

> and needed to talk to people who understand what it's like to have

a

> back problem.

>

> Thank you,

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

at first i did elipticle, and bike, and treadmill.  i added an arc machine.  All

along I've been doing water aerobics which for me is fun and i don't sweat!  I

have a feeling though that when i go back i'll have to do the warm water pool

because cold makes my muscles seize up.  The other was a weight ruitine.  I

worked a lot of hours so i became religious about getting up at 5:15 to go to

the gym 5-6 times a week.  The days i worked i only did about 30minutes, the

days off i did about an hour.  I haven't really got fatter since the operation;

as i have little appetite.  I think it's the meds and my depression about the

now 'x' boyfriend who shut me out. But my muscles have attrophied and are no

longer as hard as they were; so when i heal i'll have a lot of work ahead of

me.  Good luck. 

________________________________

From: <nessa1880@...>

spinal problems

Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2008 2:56:07 PM

Subject: Re: Just need to vent

Rhonda,

That is awesome that you lost the weight!! I lost 30 pounds last year

but I'm struggling with the belly fat. Since having my daughter it's

been really hard to get rid of that. Then the holidays came and I put

some weight back on. I was told not to do my elliptical which is

the only workout machine I have. I too was told not to run and that I

would never be able to run again. What kind of low impact exercises

did you do? Did you work out at home? I really need to get back into

excersiing again.

Thanks,

>

> I was diagnosed with bilateral pars defect a few months ago. I did

> physical therapy for 6 weeks which helped. I stopped therapy a few

> weeks ago and did good the first 2 weeks being consistent with my

> exercises. Then the holidays came and everything and I've really

> slacked off. The pain started here and there but not severe enough

> that I needed to take my pain killers. Then on Saturday I woke up

> with the sillyest sypmtoms. My left big toe was numb. It was like

> that all day Saturday and Sunday. It was the weirdest thing. Then

> last night I started getting back pain and stiffness. I figured

once

> I got out of bed and walked it off I would feel better. Well that

was

> not the case. I slowly got out of bed and tried to pick up my 2

year

> old and that almost took me to my knees. I'm only 24 years old and

I

> feel so horrible when I can't even pick up my daughter. The pain

> stayed all day long. By 10am I decided to take a pain killer and

> within 1 1/2 hours I needed another. Then by mid afternoon another

> and then right now I took another pill. What in the world could

cause

> such a sudden onset of pain? I couldn't even give my daugheter a

bath

> today and I just wanted to cry. I did manage to take a shower but

> with some pain while bending to wash my legs. My boyfriend says

it's

> probably because I haven't been doing my exercises and I " m sure

that

> has something to do with it. I guess I just hate the fact that I am

> only 24 and this is something I'm going to have to deal with for

the

> rest of my life. I'm literally dreading going to bed right now

cause

> I know I'll wake up in a few hours in pain and with stiffness. I

> dread what it will feel like in the morning. I hope it goes away

just

> as fast as it came.

>

> Sorry for randomly posting. I just didn't have anywhere else to

post

> and needed to talk to people who understand what it's like to have

a

> back problem.

>

> Thank you,

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Men dont do well on the whole dealing with a wife in pain, my husbands comments

are usually take a your pain med.

Its not that he doesnt love me, he just isnt very empathetic, not his strong

suit.

I think they would rather you take care of them. So likely he is disapointed

that you are not able to do that for him.

The older they get the more mature, my husband is close to 44 now, so finally

getting a little better...

wendy

Re: Just need to

> vent

>

> I had a history of sciatica pain and last January

> started a diet and exercise program and quickly lost

> 35 lbs. My pain went away and I thought I cured

> myself. At this point I was working out 5-6 times a

> week with weights and low impact exercise. I saw am

> old lady jogging and thought if she could to it so

> could I. Little did I know at the time that the

> running wore away at what little disk I had and the

> sciatica came back with a vengence. The doctor said

> the running is the worst thing you can do.

>

> Thanks!

> Rhonda

>

> On Dec 16, 2008, at 3:58 AM, " "

> <nessa1880@...> wrote:

>

> I was diagnosed with bilateral pars defect a few

> months ago. I did

> physical therapy for 6 weeks which helped. I stopped

> therapy a few

> weeks ago and did good the first 2 weeks being

> consistent with my

> exercises. Then the holidays came and everything and

> I've really

> slacked off. The pain started here and there but not

> severe enough

> that I needed to take my pain killers. Then on

> Saturday I woke up

> with the sillyest sypmtoms. My left big toe was

> numb. It was like

> that all day Saturday and Sunday. It was the

> weirdest thing. Then

> last night I started getting back pain and

> stiffness. I figured once

> I got out of bed and walked it off I would feel

> better. Well that was

> not the case. I slowly got out of bed and tried to

> pick up my 2 year

> old and that almost took me to my knees. I'm only 24

> years old and I

> feel so horrible when I can't even pick up my

> daughter. The pain

> stayed all day long. By 10am I decided to take a

> pain killer and

> within 1 1/2 hours I needed another. Then by mid

> afternoon another

> and then right now I took another pill. What in the

> world could cause

> such a sudden onset of pain? I couldn't even give my

> daugheter a bath

> today and I just wanted to cry. I did manage to take

> a shower but

> with some pain while bending to wash my legs. My

> boyfriend says it's

> probably because I haven't been doing my exercises

> and I " m sure that

> has something to do with it. I guess I just hate the

> fact that I am

> only 24 and this is something I'm going to have to

> deal with for the

> rest of my life. I'm literally dreading going to bed

> right now cause

> I know I'll wake up in a few hours in pain and with

> stiffness. I

> dread what it will feel like in the morning. I hope

> it goes away just

> as fast as it came.

>

> Sorry for randomly posting. I just didn't have

> anywhere else to post

> and needed to talk to people who understand what

> it's like to have a

> back problem.

>

> Thank you,

>

>

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[Guest guest]

Thanks . Yeah, I know he loves me, but I do wish

he had a little more empathy. At least fake it!

--

--- <wendy.tom@...> wrote:

> Men dont do well on the whole dealing with a wife in

> pain, my husbands comments are usually take a your

> pain med.

> Its not that he doesnt love me, he just isnt very

> empathetic, not his strong suit.

>

> I think they would rather you take care of them. So

> likely he is disapointed that you are not able to do

> that for him.

> The older they get the more mature, my husband is

> close to 44 now, so finally getting a little

> better...

> wendy

>

>

> Re: Just need

> to

> > vent

> >

> > I had a history of sciatica pain and last January

> > started a diet and exercise program and quickly

> lost

> > 35 lbs. My pain went away and I thought I cured

> > myself. At this point I was working out 5-6 times

> a

> > week with weights and low impact exercise. I saw

> am

> > old lady jogging and thought if she could to it so

> > could I. Little did I know at the time that the

> > running wore away at what little disk I had and

> the

> > sciatica came back with a vengence. The doctor

> said

> > the running is the worst thing you can do.

> >

> > Thanks!

> > Rhonda

> >

> > On Dec 16, 2008, at 3:58 AM, " "

> > <nessa1880@...> wrote:

> >

> > I was diagnosed with bilateral pars defect a few

> > months ago. I did

> > physical therapy for 6 weeks which helped. I

> stopped

> > therapy a few

> > weeks ago and did good the first 2 weeks being

> > consistent with my

> > exercises. Then the holidays came and everything

> and

> > I've really

> > slacked off. The pain started here and there but

> not

> > severe enough

> > that I needed to take my pain killers. Then on

> > Saturday I woke up

> > with the sillyest sypmtoms. My left big toe was

> > numb. It was like

> > that all day Saturday and Sunday. It was the

> > weirdest thing. Then

> > last night I started getting back pain and

> > stiffness. I figured once

> > I got out of bed and walked it off I would feel

> > better. Well that was

> > not the case. I slowly got out of bed and tried to

> > pick up my 2 year

> > old and that almost took me to my knees. I'm only

> 24

> > years old and I

> > feel so horrible when I can't even pick up my

> > daughter. The pain

> > stayed all day long. By 10am I decided to take a

> > pain killer and

> > within 1 1/2 hours I needed another. Then by mid

> > afternoon another

> > and then right now I took another pill. What in

> the

> > world could cause

> > such a sudden onset of pain? I couldn't even give

> my

> > daugheter a bath

> > today and I just wanted to cry. I did manage to

> take

> > a shower but

> > with some pain while bending to wash my legs. My

> > boyfriend says it's

> > probably because I haven't been doing my exercises

> > and I " m sure that

> > has something to do with it. I guess I just hate

> the

> > fact that I am

> > only 24 and this is something I'm going to have to

> > deal with for the

> > rest of my life. I'm literally dreading going to

> bed

>

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[Guest guest]

Hey Shayna,

Thanks for the support. My husband is 4 years younger

thanme...and I always dated older guys! I hope he

grows up soon. And trust me...I have reminded him of

the vows and I HAVE had to take care of him. Earlier

this year he had a rotator cuff repair and I took

darned good care of him and he knows it. I tell him

right out when he's being as ass.

I have also described me medical condition in full to

him in ways he can understand, but he's actually said

he's thought I might be faking it or pretending I'm

worse than I am. He can be a real dick sometimes...

I know he's just so overwhelmed though. He's a good

person, but choosing to be a jerk. He's 27 years old,

24 when we met and he became an instant step-dad to

three kids at 25 years old. Their dad has not paid for

anything and no child support as of yet. He has had to

be sole provider for a family of five...which he says

he " didn't sign up for " . I have to remind him that

life isn't fair. It's not fair that I have this

chronic and disabling problem. It's not fair that my

kids' dad abused me and I had to get a divorce.

There's a lot that isn't fair and it could certainly

be worse! He didn't sign up for a lot of things, but

like you said...he did vow. It's just sad that these

days the younger generations in particular view

marriage as disposable and vows are nothing more than

ceremonial words.

---

--- Shayna <shaynal2003@...> wrote:

> I am so sorry. That is terrible. He should be

> helpful and not be such a complete * & ^^head.

> You might remind him sometime, that your wedding

> vows specifically stated for better or for worse and

> in sickness and in health.

> He took those vows and should take them seriously.

> What if the tables were turned and he was the one in

> pain?

> I count myself very very lucky. My boyfriend of four

> years is very supportive. I tries to understand what

> I am feeling and asks questions and even has talked

> to his own physician to try to either find out about

> my illnesses or to see if he can find help.

> With his faults, as we all have, I must say I am

> completely lucky.

> Just a side note, I don't know if we have discussed

> this before, but I am on 33.

> So, I hear you sister.

> My boyfriend is 43. Maybe that is the difference, he

> is older and possibly more mature.

> I don't know what it is, but I am lucky.

> I moved in with him in Feb. 08 and had my first

> surgery April 08 and my second May 08.

> He has been supportive and helpful thru it all. I

> can't say he doesn't get frustrated or worried, but

> he would never tell me to go take another pill or be

> openly disgruntled in front of me. If he does feel

> anything, it is money worries...so that he can take

> care of us both.

> Your husband is wrong for treating you that way. You

> should try talking to him about it, if you haven't

> already and make him hear you.

> Explain what you feel and how it limits you. Almost

> like you would a doctor.

> And tell him you need his support. While you

> understand that this may not be what he signed on

> for, it is what he vowed.

> And remind him you didn't sign on for this either,

> but you are stuck with it and have to make the best

> out of it. Remind him you didn't ask for this!!!

> Feel free to vent to me anytime . On or Off

> blog.

> Good luck. Best health and pain free days!

> Shayna

>

>

>  

>

>

>  It is better to be hated for who you are than liked

> for who you aren't.

>

>

> >

> > I was diagnosed with bilateral pars defect a few

> > months ago. I did

> > physical therapy for 6 weeks which helped. I

> stopped

> > therapy a few

> > weeks ago and did good the first 2 weeks being

> > consistent with my

> > exercises. Then the holidays came and everything

> and

> > I've really

>

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[Guest guest]

Yes, a fusion takes a good year to be MOSTLY STABLE,

but a good two to be totally solid.

--

--- Rhonda <loangoddess1961@...> wrote:

> I was told a fusion takes about a year to complete.

>

> Thanks!

> Rhonda

>

> On Dec 16, 2008, at 12:23 PM, Babbitt

> <tpowell1977@...> wrote:

>

> Oh, yes they did monitor the fusion with xrays. He

> showed them to me and said that I was completely

> fused

> at 6 mos...I now know that isn't quite possible. He

> either lied, didn't k now how to read the xray or

> just

> is an idiot!

>

> Years later when my back got bad again, I went to

> see

> him and I had a non-union there, but I didn't see

> the

> CT and MRI reports before I saw him, and he didn't

> say

> one word about how my fusion was shit..he said that

> facet pain is common after you have a fusion and

> that

> he could operate on me at any time.

>

> It wasn't until i went to the pain clinic at Beth

> Israel Deaconess in Boston where I worked at the

> time

> that they told me what was really going on.

> ---tracy

> --- Rhonda <loangoddess1961@...> wrote:

>

> > OMG! How scary! Didn't they monitor the fusion

> with

> > x-rays ? I guess you couldn't sue because of all

> > the disclaimers they make you sign.

> >

> > Thanks!

> > Rhonda

> >

> > On Dec 16, 2008, at 8:59 AM, Babbitt

> > <tpowell1977@...> wrote:

> >

> > Nope, these are the only things I'm aware of. I

> > believe it was a procedural/technique error that

> > kept

> > my spine from fusing, The young surgeon tried a

> new

> > technique for fusion that involved the use of

> facet

> > screws instead of the good old standby pedicle

> > screws.

> > I healed quickly, but the fusion did not become

> > stable

> > and eventually broke apart...ironically it was

> while

> > I

> > was on the treadmill when my screws broke and sent

> > numbness and pain down my legs.

> >

> > ---

> > --- Rhonda <loangoddess1961@...> wrote:

> >

> > > I worry when you say your spine didn't fuse. I

> > know

> > > smoking and ibuprofin like Advil are no-no's do

> > you

> > > know of any other supplements that are bad?

> > >

> > > Thanks!

> > > Rhonda

> > >

> > > On Dec 16, 2008, at 8:36 AM, Babbitt

> > > <tpowell1977@...> wrote:

> > >

> > > Hi ,

> > >

> > > I'm sorry to hear you are having so much pain

> > today.

> > > I

> > > know how hard it is to have to care for little

> > ones

> > > when you hurt.I've had six back surgeries, my

> > first

> > > at

> > > the age of 16 and I've been dealing with this

> for

> > 15

> > > years now. I did have a few good years in

> between

> > my

> > > fist two disc surgeies and after my first

> fusion,

> > > but

> > > that didn't last as the bone never fused, it was

> > the

> > > screws holding me together that kept my pain

> away.

> > I

> > > have three children and have had to deal with

> the

> > > pain

> > > and at times agony while trying to care for

> them.

> > >

> > > First, try to stay on top of your exercizes. If

> > you

> > > have weight to lose in your abdomen especially,

> > try

> > > to

> > > work on that...It WILL help! Don't smoke as that

> > > exacerbates back problems and will continue the

> > > degeneration process.

> > >

> > > Try to find some time to be alone for even a few

> > > minutes and so some deep breathing and try to

> > focus

> > > on

> > > the breathing. Tune into your body and try to

> tune

> > > out

> > > the pain. I know it's not a cure all, but what

> > else

> > > can you do?

> > >

> > > As far as what could cause the sudden onset of

> > pain,

> > > it sounds as though you have herniated a disk,

> > L5S1

> > > to

> > > be exact. If you can arrange for it, try to get

> > > someone to help you at home so you can lie down

> as

> > > much as possible. If you can get to PT and A

> > > chiropractor, they may be able to help ease that

> > > disk

> > > back into place if done early on.

> > >

> > > Don't pick up your daughter!!! Get down on the

> > floor

> > > and let her clinb into your lap. Feed her on the

> > > floor

> > > and everything. No laundry or cleaning right

> now.

> > > Let

> > > the house go to pot if you have to. Rest your

> back

> > > and

> > > see if you can get to PT and a chiro.

> > > ---

> > > --- <nessa1880@...> wrote:

> > >

> > > > I was diagnosed with bilateral pars defect a

> few

> > > > months ago. I did

> > > > physical therapy for 6 weeks which helped. I

> > > stopped

> > > > therapy a few

> > > > weeks ago and did good the first 2 weeks being

> > > > consistent with my

> > > > exercises. Then the holidays came and

> everything

> > > and

> > > > I've really

> > > > slacked off. The pain started here and there

> but

> > > not

> > > > severe enough

> > > > that I needed to take my pain killers. Then on

> > > > Saturday I woke up

> > > > with the sillyest sypmtoms. My left big toe

> was

> > > > numb. It was like

> > > > that all day Saturday and Sunday. It was the

> > > > weirdest thing. Then

> > > > last night I started getting back pain and

> > > > stiffness. I figured once

> > > > I got out of bed and walked it off I would

> feel

> > > > better. Well that was

> > > > not the case. I slowly got out of bed and

> tried

> > to

> > > > pick up my 2 year

> > > > old and that almost took me to my knees. I'm

> > only

> > > 24

> > > > years old and I

> > > > feel so horrible when I can't even pick up my

> > > > daughter. The pain

> > > > stayed all day long. By 10am I decided to take

> a

> > > > pain killer and

> > > > within 1 1/2 hours I needed another. Then by

> mid

> > > > afternoon another

> > > > and then right now I took another pill. What

> in

> > > the

>

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[Guest guest]

Yes, it sure can Rhonda.

Pain is a very lonley thing.

---

--- Rhonda <loangoddess1961@...> wrote:

> Sorry for my typos as I am using my iPhone. I font

> know who's better off you or me. I'm not stuck in a

> marraige with such a guy but I feel like one minute

> we jadveuchba loving and in his own words a perfect

> relationship to being totally shut off with no

> closure even. I feel for you. I had two past

> husbands who would have treated me the same as I

> know from previous medical issues I had. It makes

> you feel unloved atva time when you need it most. If

> you can get counceling it may help. Funny how the

> emotional pain can be worse than the physical.

>

> Thanks!

> Rhonda

>

> On Dec 16, 2008, at 12:27 PM, Babbitt

> <tpowell1977@...> wrote:

>

> Yeah, my being in pain stresses my husband out big

> time, as well as all the lost wages from recovering

> from surgery. He thinks he deserves a wife who is in

> perfect condition. He moans and huffs when I have to

> go fishing in my nightstand for pain meds in the

> middle of the night, instead of saying " I'm sorry

> you're hurting " he just makes me feel bad. Or he'll

> say things like " Oh go take another pill " . It's very

> hurtful. He also worries that our future is bleak

> and

> it will find me in a wheelchair. I know it's the

> stress, but I feel like he doesn't even feel bad for

> me...only himself that he got gypped in the healthy

> wife department. Especially since I'm only 31 and

> we've only been married 2 1/2 years.

>

> ---

> --- Rhonda <loangoddess1961@...> wrote:

>

> >

> > Since the fusion I had on October 22, the sciatica

> > pain has home away. I'm recovering from the

> surgery

> > itself and the pain and spasms associated with

> that.

> > The PT and surgeon think that my recovery is so

> > delayed because of the scoliosis above the fusion.

> > The facia that connects all the muscles are trying

> > to adjust to their new positions. I'm not 100% but

> > I'm feeling better each day. The PT I've been

> seeing

> > combines some different wholistic methods and that

> > may be making the big difference.

> > Not to change the subject but a big challenge for

> me

> > mow is emotionally. For 4 weeks my boyfriend gave

> me

> > the best loving care you can imagine. Then out of

> > the blue over Thankgiving weekend he cut me out of

> > his life. I gave him some space and wrote a

> > beautiful email to him making it as easy as

> possible

> > for him to let me know what he wants to do but he

> > has ignored that email and the 2 calls I made to

> > him. I have a friend who's a nurse that sees

> > marrakgrs broken up over long term illnesses. Mine

> > recovery is taking longer than I was told but it

> is

> > still Temporary has anyone else had to deal with

> > this kind of emotional pain and abandonment while

> > trying to recoupedste from surgery? I could use

> > some advice.

> > Thanks!

> > Rhonda

> >

> > On Dec 16, 2008, at 9:08 AM, " "

> > <wendy.tom@...> wrote:

> >

> > Hi Rhonda

> > Ive been reading your postings, I used to run too,

> > for years at the track, than the treadmill, on top

> > of nursing shifts, and years before that

> waitressing

> > double shifts through high school and college.

> >

> > this past year the sciatica has been getting worse

> ,

> > some days worse than others but pretty much always

> > there.

> > If I didnt have the percs, I dont know what I

> would

> > do, they are the only thing that kills the pain.

> >

> > I recently had a CT scan which showed my right SI

> > joint has fused in the middle, so I have pain

> there

> > too.

> > The woman orthopedist said that often happens when

> > there is poor movement in the L4-5 facet joints,

> and

> > she wants me to have a discogram to rule out that

> > area as the culprit of the pain.

> >

> > Another Doc had wanted me to do that last spring,

> > but I guess Im going to have to do it, the MRI's

> are

> > just not conclusive enough.

> > Anyway- Im posting cause I know what your going

> > through with that sciatic pain, god it stinks, and

> > especially on a cold rainy day like weve got here

> in

> > DC today!

> > hang in there,

> > RN

> >

> > Re: Just need

> to

> > vent

> >

> > I had a history of sciatica pain and last January

> > started a diet and exercise program and quickly

> lost

> > 35 lbs. My pain went away and I thought I cured

> > myself. At this point I was working out 5-6 times

> a

> > week with weights and low impact exercise. I saw

> am

> > old lady jogging and thought if she could to it so

> > could I. Little did I know at the time that the

> > running wore away at what little disk I had and

> the

> > sciatica came back with a vengence. The doctor

> said

> > the running is the worst thing you can do.

> >

> > Thanks!

> > Rhonda

> >

> > On Dec 16, 2008, at 3:58 AM, " "

> > <nessa1880@...> wrote:

> >

> > I was diagnosed with bilateral pars defect a few

> > months ago. I did

> > physical therapy for 6 weeks which helped. I

> stopped

> > therapy a few

> > weeks ago and did good the first 2 weeks being

> > consistent with my

> > exercises. Then the holidays came and everything

> and

> > I've really

> > slacked off. The pain started here and there but

> not

> > severe enough

> > that I needed to take my pain killers. Then on

> > Saturday I woke up

> > with the sillyest sypmtoms. My left big toe was

> > numb. It was like

> > that all day Saturday and Sunday. It was the

> > weirdest thing. Then

> > last night I started getting back pain and

> > stiffness. I figured once

> > I got out of bed and walked it off I would feel

> > better. Well that was

> > not the case. I slowly got out of bed and tried to

> > pick up my 2 year

> > old and that almost took me to my knees. I'm only

> 24

> > years old and I

> > feel so horrible when I can't even pick up my

> > daughter. The pain

> > stayed all day long. By 10am I decided to take a

> > pain killer and

> > within 1 1/2 hours I needed another. Then by mid

> > afternoon another

> > and then right now I took another pill. What in

> the

> > world could cause

> > such a sudden onset of pain? I couldn't even give

> my

> > daugheter a bath

> > today and I just wanted to cry. I did manage to

> take

> > a shower but

> > with some pain while bending to wash my legs. My

> > boyfriend says it's

> > probably because I haven't been doing my exercises

> > and I " m sure that

> > has something to do with it. I guess I just hate

> the

> > fact that I am

> > only 24 and this is something I'm going to have to

> > deal with for the

> > rest of my life. I'm literally dreading going to

> bed

> > right now cause

> > I know I'll wake up in a few hours in pain and

> with

> > stiffness. I

>

=== message truncated ===

[Guest guest]

If you have a good physical therapist, they can help

you in a crisis situation..not just the same old

exercizes. They should be able to do some massage and

myofascial release and some other tricks to help ease

what's currently going on.

As far as doing your exercizes at home...get a yoga

mat honey. The home exercizes are a must, even though

they seem so minor, you will notice a difference.

Also, see if there is some aquatic therapy nearby.

Even if there isn't any, if you can get to a pool with

a deep end, using a float or a noodle to float and

let your body dangle will use the weightlessness in

the water to help align your spine. Might make you

feel better.

---

--- <nessa1880@...> wrote:

> ,

>

> Thank you so much for your message. I was told I

> have bilateral pars

> defect with a little bit of a slipped disc. The PT

> says its less than

> 25% slipped. I've only had x-rays done and the first

> orthosurgeon I

> saw is no longer in town. He basically told me I

> need to lose weight

> in my mid section and that will cure eveything. I've

> already lost 30

> pounds last year but the stomach fat is hard for me

> since having my

> daughter. Then came the holidays and on came 5

> pounds, which I'm

> wondering if that is what started the pain to begin

> with.

>

> Do you think I need to call my primary and tell her

> the symptoms I'm

> having? I don't feel like PT is needed at this time

> because I should

> of already been doing the exercises. I did a

> repositioning exercise

> last night and today and I already have some relief.

> I'll just keep

> up with that as much as possible. The other

> exercises just seem so

> silly to do. I know.. I know...just do them. I just

> hate laying down

> on the floor to do them because my house is all tile

> except a little

> bit of carpet I layed down in my daughter play room.

> Not very

> comfortable on ones back.

>

> I was told not to go the chiro and haven't seen him

> in months. It

> just sucks cause I need to go grocery shopping and I

> know I wouldn't

> be able to push the cart with all that food in it.

> This is the first

> time I really feel limited with my back pain. What

> am I suppose to

> do, just take pain killers all day just to get

> through what I need

> to? My primary has been so nice so far and

> prescribed me a few months

> of vicodin but how long will that last?

>

> Thank you for letting me vent my frustrations. It

> really helps having

> people I can talk to about this.

>

>

>

>

> >

> > > I was diagnosed with bilateral pars defect a few

> > > months ago. I did

> > > physical therapy for 6 weeks which helped. I

> stopped

> > > therapy a few

> > > weeks ago and did good the first 2 weeks being

> > > consistent with my

> > > exercises. Then the holidays came and everything

> and

> > > I've really

> > > slacked off. The pain started here and there but

> not

> > > severe enough

> > > that I needed to take my pain killers. Then on

> > > Saturday I woke up

> > > with the sillyest sypmtoms. My left big toe was

> > > numb. It was like

> > > that all day Saturday and Sunday. It was the

> > > weirdest thing. Then

> > > last night I started getting back pain and

> > > stiffness. I figured once

> > > I got out of bed and walked it off I would feel

> > > better. Well that was

> > > not the case. I slowly got out of bed and tried

> to

> > > pick up my 2 year

> > > old and that almost took me to my knees. I'm

> only 24

> > > years old and I

> > > feel so horrible when I can't even pick up my

> > > daughter. The pain

> > > stayed all day long. By 10am I decided to take a

> > > pain killer and

> > > within 1 1/2 hours I needed another. Then by mid

> > > afternoon another

> > > and then right now I took another pill. What in

> the

> > > world could cause

> > > such a sudden onset of pain? I couldn't even

> give my

> > > daugheter a bath

> > > today and I just wanted to cry. I did manage to

> take

> > > a shower but

> > > with some pain while bending to wash my legs. My

> > > boyfriend says it's

> > > probably because I haven't been doing my

> exercises

> > > and I " m sure that

> > > has something to do with it. I guess I just hate

> the

> > > fact that I am

> > > only 24 and this is something I'm going to have

> to

> > > deal with for the

> > > rest of my life. I'm literally dreading going to

> bed

> > > right now cause

> > > I know I'll wake up in a few hours in pain and

> with

> > > stiffness. I

> > > dread what it will feel like in the morning. I

> hope

> > > it goes away just

> > > as fast as it came.

> > >

> > > Sorry for randomly posting. I just didn't have

> > > anywhere else to post

> > > and needed to talk to people who understand what

> > > it's like to have a

> > > back problem.

> > >

> > > Thank you,

> > >

> > >

> > >

> >

>

>

=== message truncated ===

[Guest guest]

,

Ultimately my ex husbands behavior (which was exactly as you described

your husband)(was married 17 years) in regards to my being ill led to our

divorce. The final straw when I was misdiagnosed with ovarian cancer and

they were explaining that my surgical consent would be for a colostomy and a

ileo-conduit (urine bag)....my husbands reply was " I couldn't have sex with

you..... that is gross...my reply was don't you worry about you wont have

to deal with cause I want a divorce....this was about 10 minutes after my

appt with the head of gynecological oncology...I was worried I was dying. I

wish that I would have gone to therapy with my husband when the comments

first started....when he would get irritated that he missed work cause I had

surgery etc.....he didn't like to miss work yet he ran the firm and nobody

but him kept track of his hours. But, I just let the insensitive stuff

go.....and he never knew how much it bothered me. I remember when I was in

so much pain and I could not move...I literally was laying in my foyer. My

husband at the time came home from work, saw me laying there and went to

bed. I laid on the floor all night.. I feel for everything that both of

you are saying,

Deb Rn

From: spinal problems

[mailto:spinal problems ] On Behalf Of

Babbitt

Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2008 7:33 PM

spinal problems

Subject: Re: Just need to vent

Yes, it sure can Rhonda.

Pain is a very lonley thing.

---

--- Rhonda <loangoddess1961@... <mailto:loangoddess1961%40> >

wrote:

> Sorry for my typos as I am using my iPhone. I font

> know who's better off you or me. I'm not stuck in a

> marraige with such a guy but I feel like one minute

> we jadveuchba loving and in his own words a perfect

> relationship to being totally shut off with no

> closure even. I feel for you. I had two past

> husbands who would have treated me the same as I

> know from previous medical issues I had. It makes

> you feel unloved atva time when you need it most. If

> you can get counceling it may help. Funny how the

> emotional pain can be worse than the physical.

>

> Thanks!

> Rhonda

>

> On Dec 16, 2008, at 12:27 PM, Babbitt

> <tpowell1977@... <mailto:tpowell1977%40> > wrote:

>

> Yeah, my being in pain stresses my husband out big

> time, as well as all the lost wages from recovering

> from surgery. He thinks he deserves a wife who is in

> perfect condition. He moans and huffs when I have to

> go fishing in my nightstand for pain meds in the

> middle of the night, instead of saying " I'm sorry

> you're hurting " he just makes me feel bad. Or he'll

> say things like " Oh go take another pill " . It's very

> hurtful. He also worries that our future is bleak

> and

> it will find me in a wheelchair. I know it's the

> stress, but I feel like he doesn't even feel bad for

> me...only himself that he got gypped in the healthy

> wife department. Especially since I'm only 31 and

> we've only been married 2 1/2 years.

>

> ---

> --- Rhonda <loangoddess1961@... <mailto:loangoddess1961%40>

> wrote:

>

> >

> > Since the fusion I had on October 22, the sciatica

> > pain has home away. I'm recovering from the

> surgery

> > itself and the pain and spasms associated with

> that.

> > The PT and surgeon think that my recovery is so

> > delayed because of the scoliosis above the fusion.

> > The facia that connects all the muscles are trying

> > to adjust to their new positions. I'm not 100% but

> > I'm feeling better each day. The PT I've been

> seeing

> > combines some different wholistic methods and that

> > may be making the big difference.

> > Not to change the subject but a big challenge for

> me

> > mow is emotionally. For 4 weeks my boyfriend gave

> me

> > the best loving care you can imagine. Then out of

> > the blue over Thankgiving weekend he cut me out of

> > his life. I gave him some space and wrote a

> > beautiful email to him making it as easy as

> possible

> > for him to let me know what he wants to do but he

> > has ignored that email and the 2 calls I made to

> > him. I have a friend who's a nurse that sees

> > marrakgrs broken up over long term illnesses. Mine

> > recovery is taking longer than I was told but it

> is

> > still Temporary has anyone else had to deal with

> > this kind of emotional pain and abandonment while

> > trying to recoupedste from surgery? I could use

> > some advice.

> > Thanks!

> > Rhonda

> >

> > On Dec 16, 2008, at 9:08 AM, " "

> > <wendy.tom@... <mailto:wendy.tom%40earthlink.net> > wrote:

> >

> > Hi Rhonda

> > Ive been reading your postings, I used to run too,

> > for years at the track, than the treadmill, on top

> > of nursing shifts, and years before that

> waitressing

> > double shifts through high school and college.

> >

> > this past year the sciatica has been getting worse

> ,

> > some days worse than others but pretty much always

> > there.

> > If I didnt have the percs, I dont know what I

> would

> > do, they are the only thing that kills the pain.

> >

> > I recently had a CT scan which showed my right SI

> > joint has fused in the middle, so I have pain

> there

> > too.

> > The woman orthopedist said that often happens when

> > there is poor movement in the L4-5 facet joints,

> and

> > she wants me to have a discogram to rule out that

> > area as the culprit of the pain.

> >

> > Another Doc had wanted me to do that last spring,

> > but I guess Im going to have to do it, the MRI's

> are

> > just not conclusive enough.

> > Anyway- Im posting cause I know what your going

> > through with that sciatic pain, god it stinks, and

> > especially on a cold rainy day like weve got here

> in

> > DC today!

> > hang in there,

> > RN

> >

> > Re: Just need

> to

> > vent

> >

> > I had a history of sciatica pain and last January

> > started a diet and exercise program and quickly

> lost

> > 35 lbs. My pain went away and I thought I cured

> > myself. At this point I was working out 5-6 times

> a

> > week with weights and low impact exercise. I saw

> am

> > old lady jogging and thought if she could to it so

> > could I. Little did I know at the time that the

> > running wore away at what little disk I had and

> the

> > sciatica came back with a vengence. The doctor

> said

> > the running is the worst thing you can do.

> >

> > Thanks!

> > Rhonda

> >

> > On Dec 16, 2008, at 3:58 AM, " "

> > <nessa1880@... <mailto:nessa1880%40> > wrote:

> >

> > I was diagnosed with bilateral pars defect a few

> > months ago. I did

> > physical therapy for 6 weeks which helped. I

> stopped

> > therapy a few

> > weeks ago and did good the first 2 weeks being

> > consistent with my

> > exercises. Then the holidays came and everything

> and

> > I've really

> > slacked off. The pain started here and there but

> not

> > severe enough

> > that I needed to take my pain killers. Then on

> > Saturday I woke up

> > with the sillyest sypmtoms. My left big toe was

> > numb. It was like

> > that all day Saturday and Sunday. It was the

> > weirdest thing. Then

> > last night I started getting back pain and

> > stiffness. I figured once

> > I got out of bed and walked it off I would feel

> > better. Well that was

> > not the case. I slowly got out of bed and tried to

> > pick up my 2 year

> > old and that almost took me to my knees. I'm only

> 24

> > years old and I

> > feel so horrible when I can't even pick up my

> > daughter. The pain

> > stayed all day long. By 10am I decided to take a

> > pain killer and

> > within 1 1/2 hours I needed another. Then by mid

> > afternoon another

> > and then right now I took another pill. What in

> the

> > world could cause

> > such a sudden onset of pain? I couldn't even give

> my

> > daugheter a bath

> > today and I just wanted to cry. I did manage to

> take

> > a shower but

> > with some pain while bending to wash my legs. My

> > boyfriend says it's

> > probably because I haven't been doing my exercises

> > and I " m sure that

> > has something to do with it. I guess I just hate

> the

> > fact that I am

> > only 24 and this is something I'm going to have to

> > deal with for the

> > rest of my life. I'm literally dreading going to

> bed

> > right now cause

> > I know I'll wake up in a few hours in pain and

> with

> > stiffness. I

>

=== message truncated ===

[Guest guest]

I finally got a return email from him today. Just when I was going through my

anger stage of grief and on my way to emotional healing. He ssus it must look

like he abandoned me but that he is in a deep dark depression. That his meds

were not working and he could barely function. He says he prays for me each day

And that I was too good for him. He added that ifvhe can get to a better place

mentally by the end of the year he'd call me but he feels so low right nowvthat

he'd bring me down. At this point all my friends and family would think I'm

crazy to go back to someone that has abandoned me likevthat and that has

depression issues. I'm having a hard time with it because I still love him and

think about all the loving care he gave me and saved mechrom serious injury when

I collapsed with the major spasm. It's all so confusing. Buy it demonstates

thatvthis could happen again.

Thanks!

Rhonda

On Dec 16, 2008, at 8:32 PM, Babbitt <tpowell1977@...> wrote:

Yes, it sure can Rhonda.

Pain is a very lonley thing.

---

--- Rhonda <loangoddess1961@...> wrote:

> Sorry for my typos as I am using my iPhone. I font

> know who's better off you or me. I'm not stuck in a

> marraige with such a guy but I feel like one minute

> we jadveuchba loving and in his own words a perfect

> relationship to being totally shut off with no

> closure even. I feel for you. I had two past

> husbands who would have treated me the same as I

> know from previous medical issues I had. It makes

> you feel unloved atva time when you need it most. If

> you can get counceling it may help. Funny how the

> emotional pain can be worse than the physical.

>

> Thanks!

> Rhonda

>

> On Dec 16, 2008, at 12:27 PM, Babbitt

> <tpowell1977@...> wrote:

>

> Yeah, my being in pain stresses my husband out big

> time, as well as all the lost wages from recovering

> from surgery. He thinks he deserves a wife who is in

> perfect condition. He moans and huffs when I have to

> go fishing in my nightstand for pain meds in the

> middle of the night, instead of saying " I'm sorry

> you're hurting " he just makes me feel bad. Or he'll

> say things like " Oh go take another pill " . It's very

> hurtful. He also worries that our future is bleak

> and

> it will find me in a wheelchair. I know it's the

> stress, but I feel like he doesn't even feel bad for

> me...only himself that he got gypped in the healthy

> wife department. Especially since I'm only 31 and

> we've only been married 2 1/2 years.

>

> ---

> --- Rhonda <loangoddess1961@...> wrote:

>

> >

> > Since the fusion I had on October 22, the sciatica

> > pain has home away. I'm recovering from the

> surgery

> > itself and the pain and spasms associated with

> that.

> > The PT and surgeon think that my recovery is so

> > delayed because of the scoliosis above the fusion.

> > The facia that connects all the muscles are trying

> > to adjust to their new positions. I'm not 100% but

> > I'm feeling better each day. The PT I've been

> seeing

> > combines some different wholistic methods and that

> > may be making the big difference.

> > Not to change the subject but a big challenge for

> me

> > mow is emotionally. For 4 weeks my boyfriend gave

> me

> > the best loving care you can imagine. Then out of

> > the blue over Thankgiving weekend he cut me out of

> > his life. I gave him some space and wrote a

> > beautiful email to him making it as easy as

> possible

> > for him to let me know what he wants to do but he

> > has ignored that email and the 2 calls I made to

> > him. I have a friend who's a nurse that sees

> > marrakgrs broken up over long term illnesses. Mine

> > recovery is taking longer than I was told but it

> is

> > still Temporary has anyone else had to deal with

> > this kind of emotional pain and abandonment while

> > trying to recoupedste from surgery? I could use

> > some advice.

> > Thanks!

> > Rhonda

> >

> > On Dec 16, 2008, at 9:08 AM, " "

> > <wendy.tom@...> wrote:

> >

> > Hi Rhonda

> > Ive been reading your postings, I used to run too,

> > for years at the track, than the treadmill, on top

> > of nursing shifts, and years before that

> waitressing

> > double shifts through high school and college.

> >

> > this past year the sciatica has been getting worse

> ,

> > some days worse than others but pretty much always

> > there.

> > If I didnt have the percs, I dont know what I

> would

> > do, they are the only thing that kills the pain.

> >

> > I recently had a CT scan which showed my right SI

> > joint has fused in the middle, so I have pain

> there

> > too.

> > The woman orthopedist said that often happens when

> > there is poor movement in the L4-5 facet joints,

> and

> > she wants me to have a discogram to rule out that

> > area as the culprit of the pain.

> >

> > Another Doc had wanted me to do that last spring,

> > but I guess Im going to have to do it, the MRI's

> are

> > just not conclusive enough.

> > Anyway- Im posting cause I know what your going

> > through with that sciatic pain, god it stinks, and

> > especially on a cold rainy day like weve got here

> in

> > DC today!

> > hang in there,

> > RN

> >

> > Re: Just need

> to

> > vent

> >

> > I had a history of sciatica pain and last January

> > started a diet and exercise program and quickly

> lost

> > 35 lbs. My pain went away and I thought I cured

> > myself. At this point I was working out 5-6 times

> a

> > week with weights and low impact exercise. I saw

> am

> > old lady jogging and thought if she could to it so

> > could I. Little did I know at the time that the

> > running wore away at what little disk I had and

> the

> > sciatica came back with a vengence. The doctor

> said

> > the running is the worst thing you can do.

> >

> > Thanks!

> > Rhonda

> >

> > On Dec 16, 2008, at 3:58 AM, " "

> > <nessa1880@...> wrote:

> >

> > I was diagnosed with bilateral pars defect a few

> > months ago. I did

> > physical therapy for 6 weeks which helped. I

> stopped

> > therapy a few

> > weeks ago and did good the first 2 weeks being

> > consistent with my

> > exercises. Then the holidays came and everything

> and

> > I've really

> > slacked off. The pain started here and there but

> not

> > severe enough

> > that I needed to take my pain killers. Then on

> > Saturday I woke up

> > with the sillyest sypmtoms. My left big toe was

> > numb. It was like

> > that all day Saturday and Sunday. It was the

> > weirdest thing. Then

> > last night I started getting back pain and

> > stiffness. I figured once

> > I got out of bed and walked it off I would feel

> > better. Well that was

> > not the case. I slowly got out of bed and tried to

> > pick up my 2 year

> > old and that almost took me to my knees. I'm only

> 24

> > years old and I

> > feel so horrible when I can't even pick up my

> > daughter. The pain

> > stayed all day long. By 10am I decided to take a

> > pain killer and

> > within 1 1/2 hours I needed another. Then by mid

> > afternoon another

> > and then right now I took another pill. What in

> the

> > world could cause

> > such a sudden onset of pain? I couldn't even give

> my

> > daugheter a bath

> > today and I just wanted to cry. I did manage to

> take

> > a shower but

> > with some pain while bending to wash my legs. My

> > boyfriend says it's

> > probably because I haven't been doing my exercises

> > and I " m sure that

> > has something to do with it. I guess I just hate

> the

> > fact that I am

> > only 24 and this is something I'm going to have to

> > deal with for the

> > rest of my life. I'm literally dreading going to

> bed

> > right now cause

> > I know I'll wake up in a few hours in pain and

> with

> > stiffness. I

>

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[Guest guest]

I agree. My PT combines wholistic approaches and energy work and I've been

feeling a lot better. Of anyone Is in cincinnati I'll give a recommendation.

Thanks!

Rhonda

On Dec 16, 2008, at 8:39 PM, Babbitt <tpowell1977@...> wrote:

If you have a good physical therapist, they can help

you in a crisis situation..not just the same old

exercizes. They should be able to do some massage and

myofascial release and some other tricks to help ease

what's currently going on.

As far as doing your exercizes at home...get a yoga

mat honey. The home exercizes are a must, even though

they seem so minor, you will notice a difference.

Also, see if there is some aquatic therapy nearby.

Even if there isn't any, if you can get to a pool with

a deep end, using a float or a noodle to float and

let your body dangle will use the weightlessness in

the water to help align your spine. Might make you

feel better.

---

--- <nessa1880@...> wrote:

> ,

>

> Thank you so much for your message. I was told I

> have bilateral pars

> defect with a little bit of a slipped disc. The PT

> says its less than

> 25% slipped. I've only had x-rays done and the first

> orthosurgeon I

> saw is no longer in town. He basically told me I

> need to lose weight

> in my mid section and that will cure eveything. I've

> already lost 30

> pounds last year but the stomach fat is hard for me

> since having my

> daughter. Then came the holidays and on came 5

> pounds, which I'm

> wondering if that is what started the pain to begin

> with.

>

> Do you think I need to call my primary and tell her

> the symptoms I'm

> having? I don't feel like PT is needed at this time

> because I should

> of already been doing the exercises. I did a

> repositioning exercise

> last night and today and I already have some relief.

> I'll just keep

> up with that as much as possible. The other

> exercises just seem so

> silly to do. I know.. I know...just do them. I just

> hate laying down

> on the floor to do them because my house is all tile

> except a little

> bit of carpet I layed down in my daughter play room.

> Not very

> comfortable on ones back.

>

> I was told not to go the chiro and haven't seen him

> in months. It

> just sucks cause I need to go grocery shopping and I

> know I wouldn't

> be able to push the cart with all that food in it.

> This is the first

> time I really feel limited with my back pain. What

> am I suppose to

> do, just take pain killers all day just to get

> through what I need

> to? My primary has been so nice so far and

> prescribed me a few months

> of vicodin but how long will that last?

>

> Thank you for letting me vent my frustrations. It

> really helps having

> people I can talk to about this.

>

>

>

>

> >

> > > I was diagnosed with bilateral pars defect a few

> > > months ago. I did

> > > physical therapy for 6 weeks which helped. I

> stopped

> > > therapy a few

> > > weeks ago and did good the first 2 weeks being

> > > consistent with my

> > > exercises. Then the holidays came and everything

> and

> > > I've really

> > > slacked off. The pain started here and there but

> not

> > > severe enough

> > > that I needed to take my pain killers. Then on

> > > Saturday I woke up

> > > with the sillyest sypmtoms. My left big toe was

> > > numb. It was like

> > > that all day Saturday and Sunday. It was the

> > > weirdest thing. Then

> > > last night I started getting back pain and

> > > stiffness. I figured once

> > > I got out of bed and walked it off I would feel

> > > better. Well that was

> > > not the case. I slowly got out of bed and tried

> to

> > > pick up my 2 year

> > > old and that almost took me to my knees. I'm

> only 24

> > > years old and I

> > > feel so horrible when I can't even pick up my

> > > daughter. The pain

> > > stayed all day long. By 10am I decided to take a

> > > pain killer and

> > > within 1 1/2 hours I needed another. Then by mid

> > > afternoon another

> > > and then right now I took another pill. What in

> the

> > > world could cause

> > > such a sudden onset of pain? I couldn't even

> give my

> > > daugheter a bath

> > > today and I just wanted to cry. I did manage to

> take

> > > a shower but

> > > with some pain while bending to wash my legs. My

> > > boyfriend says it's

> > > probably because I haven't been doing my

> exercises

> > > and I " m sure that

> > > has something to do with it. I guess I just hate

> the

> > > fact that I am

> > > only 24 and this is something I'm going to have

> to

> > > deal with for the

> > > rest of my life. I'm literally dreading going to

> bed

> > > right now cause

> > > I know I'll wake up in a few hours in pain and

> with

> > > stiffness. I

> > > dread what it will feel like in the morning. I

> hope

> > > it goes away just

> > > as fast as it came.

> > >

> > > Sorry for randomly posting. I just didn't have

> > > anywhere else to post

> > > and needed to talk to people who understand what

> > > it's like to have a

> > > back problem.

> > >

> > > Thank you,

> > >

> > >

> > >

> >

>

>

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Hi Rhonda

this time of year often brings out depression in a lot of folks, the best thing

he can do for himself is get to a therapist/ counseler/ or Psych and get back on

his meds.

Encourage him to do that before he does anything else.

Once he has stabilized, he can be there more for you.

Re: Just need

> to

> > vent

> >

> > I had a history of sciatica pain and last January

> > started a diet and exercise program and quickly

> lost

> > 35 lbs. My pain went away and I thought I cured

> > myself. At this point I was working out 5-6 times

> a

> > week with weights and low impact exercise. I saw

> am

> > old lady jogging and thought if she could to it so

> > could I. Little did I know at the time that the

> > running wore away at what little disk I had and

> the

> > sciatica came back with a vengence. The doctor

> said

> > the running is the worst thing you can do.

> >

> > Thanks!

> > Rhonda

> >

> > On Dec 16, 2008, at 3:58 AM, " "

> > <nessa1880@...> wrote:

> >

> > I was diagnosed with bilateral pars defect a few

> > months ago. I did

> > physical therapy for 6 weeks which helped. I

> stopped

> > therapy a few

> > weeks ago and did good the first 2 weeks being

> > consistent with my

> > exercises. Then the holidays came and everything

> and

> > I've really

> > slacked off. The pain started here and there but

> not

> > severe enough

> > that I needed to take my pain killers. Then on

> > Saturday I woke up

> > with the sillyest sypmtoms. My left big toe was

> > numb. It was like

> > that all day Saturday and Sunday. It was the

> > weirdest thing. Then

> > last night I started getting back pain and

> > stiffness. I figured once

> > I got out of bed and walked it off I would feel

> > better. Well that was

> > not the case. I slowly got out of bed and tried to

> > pick up my 2 year

> > old and that almost took me to my knees. I'm only

> 24

> > years old and I

> > feel so horrible when I can't even pick up my

> > daughter. The pain

> > stayed all day long. By 10am I decided to take a

> > pain killer and

> > within 1 1/2 hours I needed another. Then by mid

> > afternoon another

> > and then right now I took another pill. What in

> the

> > world could cause

> > such a sudden onset of pain? I couldn't even give

> my

> > daugheter a bath

> > today and I just wanted to cry. I did manage to

> take

> > a shower but

> > with some pain while bending to wash my legs. My

> > boyfriend says it's

> > probably because I haven't been doing my exercises

> > and I " m sure that

> > has something to do with it. I guess I just hate

> the

> > fact that I am

> > only 24 and this is something I'm going to have to

> > deal with for the

> > rest of my life. I'm literally dreading going to

> bed

> > right now cause

> > I know I'll wake up in a few hours in pain and

> with

> > stiffness. I

>

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[Guest guest]

His email says he's working with his doctor to get his meds in balance. I think

he needs to look at a wholistic approach as well. What hard to forgive is that

he cut me out cold turkey when a quick email to let me know what's going on

could have saved mr weeks of heartache and tears. Worse, if I to back to him I

would get grief from family and friends who warn me that this could happen

again. It's so hard to forgot the 4 weeks of extreme loving care he showed me

including saving me from serious injury when I collapsed. Also over the last

year we've been together we've been so great together. I do still love him which

complicated things. I wascgoingbthrough all thecstages of grief and was trying

to through it all along with dealing with my recovery etc. I do think that

watching me suffer so bad only added to his depression and feelings of

hopelessness. Most of this began when his daughter was born with downs syndrome

7 years ago and he went through a

nervous breakdown because for the first time in his life he couldn't fix

something. Who knows. Maybe watching me suffer broughtvup all those feelings

again compounding his depression. His daughter who he adores is hAving surgery

tomorrow and I'm sure that is worrying him also. He us a good person but it's do

hard to ignore that he abandoned me at a dark hour. Any words of wisdom would be

appreciated.

Thanks!

Rhonda

On Dec 17, 2008, at 8:29 AM, " " <wendy.tom@...> wrote:

Hi Rhonda

this time of year often brings out depression in a lot of folks, the best thing

he can do for himself is get to a therapist/ counseler/ or Psych and get back on

his meds.

Encourage him to do that before he does anything else.

Once he has stabilized, he can be there more for you.

Re: Just need

> to

> > vent

> >

> > I had a history of sciatica pain and last January

> > started a diet and exercise program and quickly

> lost

> > 35 lbs. My pain went away and I thought I cured

> > myself. At this point I was working out 5-6 times

> a

> > week with weights and low impact exercise. I saw

> am

> > old lady jogging and thought if she could to it so

> > could I. Little did I know at the time that the

> > running wore away at what little disk I had and

> the

> > sciatica came back with a vengence. The doctor

> said

> > the running is the worst thing you can do.

> >

> > Thanks!

> > Rhonda

> >

> > On Dec 16, 2008, at 3:58 AM, " "

> > <nessa1880@...> wrote:

> >

> > I was diagnosed with bilateral pars defect a few

> > months ago. I did

> > physical therapy for 6 weeks which helped. I

> stopped

> > therapy a few

> > weeks ago and did good the first 2 weeks being

> > consistent with my

> > exercises. Then the holidays came and everything

> and

> > I've really

> > slacked off. The pain started here and there but

> not

> > severe enough

> > that I needed to take my pain killers. Then on

> > Saturday I woke up

> > with the sillyest sypmtoms. My left big toe was

> > numb. It was like

> > that all day Saturday and Sunday. It was the

> > weirdest thing. Then

> > last night I started getting back pain and

> > stiffness. I figured once

> > I got out of bed and walked it off I would feel

> > better. Well that was

> > not the case. I slowly got out of bed and tried to

> > pick up my 2 year

> > old and that almost took me to my knees. I'm only

> 24

> > years old and I

> > feel so horrible when I can't even pick up my

> > daughter. The pain

> > stayed all day long. By 10am I decided to take a

> > pain killer and

> > within 1 1/2 hours I needed another. Then by mid

> > afternoon another

> > and then right now I took another pill. What in

> the

> > world could cause

> > such a sudden onset of pain? I couldn't even give

> my

> > daugheter a bath

> > today and I just wanted to cry. I did manage to

> take

> > a shower but

> > with some pain while bending to wash my legs. My

> > boyfriend says it's

> > probably because I haven't been doing my exercises

> > and I " m sure that

> > has something to do with it. I guess I just hate

> the

> > fact that I am

> > only 24 and this is something I'm going to have to

> > deal with for the

> > rest of my life. I'm literally dreading going to

> bed

> > right now cause

> > I know I'll wake up in a few hours in pain and

> with

> > stiffness. I

>

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[Guest guest]

I know its hard Rhonda when we need so much ourselves, but sometimes people who

are suffering depression get in such a

" tunnel vision " of darkness that that is all the can see and know.

Remember depression doesnt have to do with you, this is his issue, and thought

it hurts you and its hard not to take it personally, know too the best thing you

can do right now is just to be empathetic, give him some space and let him know

that when he feels better you will be there to talk to.

You may be hurt, and it maybe your choice not to resume the same level of

intimacy as before as it is very difficult having a close relationship who is in

the throes of depression, the best thing you can do for yourself is find away to

get some of those needs met that he was helping you with.

I know this might sound flip but do you have a pet? A puppy or a kitten can

offer a world of magic and unlimited love.

Something to help you focus on something else right now that also gives you

love, laughter and pleasure.

Also now is the time to call on your friends to step on, maybe a nice phone

call, a visit, lunch or dinner out if you can.

Or if pain permits, some kind of volunteer work, or rotary club kind of thing.

(I joined the local Soroptimist club here in DC a year ago and attend once a

month as well as other works, I take my pain pills and than go...)

Situations that allow you to give and get back and take the focus of off him

right now.

just some ideas.

Re: Just need

> to

> > vent

> >

> > I had a history of sciatica pain and last January

> > started a diet and exercise program and quickly

> lost

> > 35 lbs. My pain went away and I thought I cured

> > myself. At this point I was working out 5-6 times

> a

> > week with weights and low impact exercise. I saw

> am

> > old lady jogging and thought if she could to it so

> > could I. Little did I know at the time that the

> > running wore away at what little disk I had and

> the

> > sciatica came back with a vengence. The doctor

> said

> > the running is the worst thing you can do.

> >

> > Thanks!

> > Rhonda

> >

> > On Dec 16, 2008, at 3:58 AM, " "

> > <nessa1880@...> wrote:

> >

> > I was diagnosed with bilateral pars defect a few

> > months ago. I did

> > physical therapy for 6 weeks which helped. I

> stopped

> > therapy a few

> > weeks ago and did good the first 2 weeks being

> > consistent with my

> > exercises. Then the holidays came and everything

> and

> > I've really

> > slacked off. The pain started here and there but

> not

> > severe enough

> > that I needed to take my pain killers. Then on

> > Saturday I woke up

> > with the sillyest sypmtoms. My left big toe was

> > numb. It was like

> > that all day Saturday and Sunday. It was the

> > weirdest thing. Then

> > last night I started getting back pain and

> > stiffness. I figured once

> > I got out of bed and walked it off I would feel

> > better. Well that was

> > not the case. I slowly got out of bed and tried to

> > pick up my 2 year

> > old and that almost took me to my knees. I'm only

> 24

> > years old and I

> > feel so horrible when I can't even pick up my

> > daughter. The pain

> > stayed all day long. By 10am I decided to take a

> > pain killer and

> > within 1 1/2 hours I needed another. Then by mid

> > afternoon another

> > and then right now I took another pill. What in

> the

> > world could cause

> > such a sudden onset of pain? I couldn't even give

> my

> > daugheter a bath

> > today and I just wanted to cry. I did manage to

> take

> > a shower but

> > with some pain while bending to wash my legs. My

> > boyfriend says it's

> > probably because I haven't been doing my exercises

> > and I " m sure that

> > has something to do with it. I guess I just hate

> the

> > fact that I am

> > only 24 and this is something I'm going to have to

> > deal with for the

> > rest of my life. I'm literally dreading going to

> bed

> > right now cause

> > I know I'll wake up in a few hours in pain and

> with

> > stiffness. I

>

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[Guest guest]

Thank you for such a kind response. I have 2 little dogs that have been staying

with my kids father because I cannot care for the

now. They are here today but kenneled up because he is out of town. I have

missed the dogs but they are not well trained and pull hard on the leash.

I hear what you are saying about the depression. Aside from that he has been

nothing short of wonderful. My emotions are so messed up with this whole thing.

I am going go take my time to think things over before I respond to him. My PT

told me about a fantastic metabolic clinic that may help him. I am thinking of

sending him that into via the snail mail in a card.

Speaking of my PT. She was doing some weird things with my hips and legs the

ithar day. She said she was realigning me. I felt sure in my left hip. But just

noticed today that when I walk now my feet are facing forward fir the first time

in my life. I always walked like a duck before. I am amazed.

Thanks!

Rhonda

On Dec 17, 2008, at 9:50 AM, " " <wendy.tom@...> wrote:

I know its hard Rhonda when we need so much ourselves, but sometimes people who

are suffering depression get in such a

" tunnel vision " of darkness that that is all the can see and know.

Remember depression doesnt have to do with you, this is his issue, and thought

it hurts you and its hard not to take it personally, know too the best thing you

can do right now is just to be empathetic, give him some space and let him know

that when he feels better you will be there to talk to.

You may be hurt, and it maybe your choice not to resume the same level of

intimacy as before as it is very difficult having a close relationship who is in

the throes of depression, the best thing you can do for yourself is find away to

get some of those needs met that he was helping you with.

I know this might sound flip but do you have a pet? A puppy or a kitten can

offer a world of magic and unlimited love.

Something to help you focus on something else right now that also gives you

love, laughter and pleasure.

Also now is the time to call on your friends to step on, maybe a nice phone

call, a visit, lunch or dinner out if you can.

Or if pain permits, some kind of volunteer work, or rotary club kind of thing.

(I joined the local Soroptimist club here in DC a year ago and attend once a

month as well as other works, I take my pain pills and than go...)

Situations that allow you to give and get back and take the focus of off him

right now.

just some ideas.

Re: Just need

> to

> > vent

> >

> > I had a history of sciatica pain and last January

> > started a diet and exercise program and quickly

> lost

> > 35 lbs. My pain went away and I thought I cured

> > myself. At this point I was working out 5-6 times

> a

> > week with weights and low impact exercise. I saw

> am

> > old lady jogging and thought if she could to it so

> > could I. Little did I know at the time that the

> > running wore away at what little disk I had and

> the

> > sciatica came back with a vengence. The doctor

> said

> > the running is the worst thing you can do.

> >

> > Thanks!

> > Rhonda

> >

> > On Dec 16, 2008, at 3:58 AM, " "

> > <nessa1880@...> wrote:

> >

> > I was diagnosed with bilateral pars defect a few

> > months ago. I did

> > physical therapy for 6 weeks which helped. I

> stopped

> > therapy a few

> > weeks ago and did good the first 2 weeks being

> > consistent with my

> > exercises. Then the holidays came and everything

> and

> > I've really

> > slacked off. The pain started here and there but

> not

> > severe enough

> > that I needed to take my pain killers. Then on

> > Saturday I woke up

> > with the sillyest sypmtoms. My left big toe was

> > numb. It was like

> > that all day Saturday and Sunday. It was the

> > weirdest thing. Then

> > last night I started getting back pain and

> > stiffness. I figured once

> > I got out of bed and walked it off I would feel

> > better. Well that was

> > not the case. I slowly got out of bed and tried to

> > pick up my 2 year

> > old and that almost took me to my knees. I'm only

> 24

> > years old and I

> > feel so horrible when I can't even pick up my

> > daughter. The pain

> > stayed all day long. By 10am I decided to take a

> > pain killer and

> > within 1 1/2 hours I needed another. Then by mid

> > afternoon another

> > and then right now I took another pill. What in

> the

> > world could cause

> > such a sudden onset of pain? I couldn't even give

> my

> > daugheter a bath

> > today and I just wanted to cry. I did manage to

> take

> > a shower but

> > with some pain while bending to wash my legs. My

> > boyfriend says it's

> > probably because I haven't been doing my exercises

> > and I " m sure that

> > has something to do with it. I guess I just hate

> the

> > fact that I am

> > only 24 and this is something I'm going to have to

> > deal with for the

> > rest of my life. I'm literally dreading going to

> bed

> > right now cause

> > I know I'll wake up in a few hours in pain and

> with

> > stiffness. I

>

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[Guest guest]

,

I know there are no words to help you to understand what is happening to you. I

for one am 51 and in some way or another been in pain most all my life, and

still can't understand, why me. Only now after finding a group like this one

have I been trying to accept what I have to deal with is not just on my

shoulders, but on a lot of people that are suffering the same way. It doesn't

really help with the pain truthfully, but for some reason just knowing that

others understand fully what I am going through help ease my mind of this

burden.

I hope you can find a way to deal with the pain, and there are ways to help you

not make matters worst, and still be able to be an active part of your families

life. Rest assure they will understand one day, and know that being a sufferer

of chronic pain, you have put all of you into their lives, you will be rewarded.

I will be praying for you and your family.

 

george

 

The dog has seldom been successful in pulling man up to its level of sagacity,

but man has frequently dragged the dog down to his. Thurber

________________________________

From: <nessa1880@...>

spinal problems

Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2008 2:58:42 AM

Subject: Just need to vent

I was diagnosed with bilateral pars defect a few months ago. I did

physical therapy for 6 weeks which helped. I stopped therapy a few

weeks ago and did good the first 2 weeks being consistent with my

exercises. Then the holidays came and everything and I've really

slacked off. The pain started here and there but not severe enough

that I needed to take my pain killers. Then on Saturday I woke up

with the sillyest sypmtoms. My left big toe was numb. It was like

that all day Saturday and Sunday. It was the weirdest thing. Then

last night I started getting back pain and stiffness. I figured once

I got out of bed and walked it off I would feel better. Well that was

not the case. I slowly got out of bed and tried to pick up my 2 year

old and that almost took me to my knees. I'm only 24 years old and I

feel so horrible when I can't even pick up my daughter. The pain

stayed all day long. By 10am I decided to take a pain killer and

within 1 1/2 hours I needed another. Then by mid afternoon another

and then right now I took another pill. What in the world could cause

such a sudden onset of pain? I couldn't even give my daugheter a bath

today and I just wanted to cry. I did manage to take a shower but

with some pain while bending to wash my legs. My boyfriend says it's

probably because I haven't been doing my exercises and I " m sure that

has something to do with it. I guess I just hate the fact that I am

only 24 and this is something I'm going to have to deal with for the

rest of my life. I'm literally dreading going to bed right now cause

I know I'll wake up in a few hours in pain and with stiffness. I

dread what it will feel like in the morning. I hope it goes away just

as fast as it came.

Sorry for randomly posting. I just didn't have anywhere else to post

and needed to talk to people who understand what it's like to have a

back problem.

Thank you,

[Guest guest]

Jeez Rhonda, I am so sorry you are having to deal with these issues. As far as

you ex is concerned, he doesn't deserve you AT ALL. Anyone that suffers from

spinal disorders, chronic pain, and trying to recover from a surgery, are truly

special people, they know what it's like to hurt, and operate from the heart and

not the brain. Your ex-boyfriend operates from the brain, and doesn't have

the heart to share in the purity. I was married for 10 years, and as soon as I

got down with my back she abandoned my life, she will have to answer to a higher

being for that in the end in my belief.

IMHO, I would say to you that the answer you are seeking with come to you when

you least expect it, as with happiest, do not let this get you down, keep on

track with your recovery, and stay true to your heart, you will get your reward.

 

george

 

The dog has seldom been successful in pulling man up to its level of sagacity,

but man has frequently dragged the dog down to his. Thurber

________________________________

From: Rhonda <loangoddess1961@...>

" spinal problems "

<spinal problems >

Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2008 9:06:14 AM

Subject: Re: Just need to vent

Since the fusion I had on October 22, the sciatica pain has home away. I'm

recovering from the surgery itself and the pain and spasms associated with that.

The PT and surgeon think that my recovery is so delayed because of the scoliosis

above the fusion.. The facia that connects all the muscles are trying to adjust

to their new positions. I'm not 100% but I'm feeling better each day. The PT

I've been seeing combines some different wholistic methods and that may be

making the big difference.

Not to change the subject but a big challenge for me mow is emotionally. For 4

weeks my boyfriend gave me the best loving care you can imagine. Then out of the

blue over Thankgiving weekend he cut me out of his life. I gave him some space

and wrote a beautiful email to him making it as easy as possible for him to let

me know what he wants to do but he has ignored that email and the 2 calls I made

to him. I have a friend who's a nurse that sees marrakgrs broken up over long

term illnesses. Mine recovery is taking longer than I was told but it is still

Temporary has anyone else had to deal with this kind of emotional pain and

abandonment while trying to recoupedste from surgery? I could use some advice.

Thanks!

Rhonda

On Dec 16, 2008, at 9:08 AM, " " <wendy.tom@earthlink .net> wrote:

Hi Rhonda

Ive been reading your postings, I used to run too, for years at the track, than

the treadmill, on top of nursing shifts, and years before that waitressing

double shifts through high school and college.

this past year the sciatica has been getting worse , some days worse than others

but pretty much always there.

If I didnt have the percs, I dont know what I would do, they are the only thing

that kills the pain.

I recently had a CT scan which showed my right SI joint has fused in the middle,

so I have pain there too.

The woman orthopedist said that often happens when there is poor movement in the

L4-5 facet joints, and she wants me to have a discogram to rule out that area as

the culprit of the pain.

Another Doc had wanted me to do that last spring, but I guess Im going to have

to do it, the MRI's are just not conclusive enough.

Anyway- Im posting cause I know what your going through with that sciatic pain,

god it stinks, and especially on a cold rainy day like weve got here in DC

today!

hang in there,

RN

Re: Just need to vent

I had a history of sciatica pain and last January started a diet and exercise

program and quickly lost 35 lbs. My pain went away and I thought I cured myself.

At this point I was working out 5-6 times a week with weights and low impact

exercise. I saw am old lady jogging and thought if she could to it so could I.

Little did I know at the time that the running wore away at what little disk I

had and the sciatica came back with a vengence. The doctor said the running is

the worst thing you can do.

Thanks!

Rhonda

On Dec 16, 2008, at 3:58 AM, " " <nessa1880 (DOT) com> wrote:

I was diagnosed with bilateral pars defect a few months ago. I did

physical therapy for 6 weeks which helped. I stopped therapy a few

weeks ago and did good the first 2 weeks being consistent with my

exercises. Then the holidays came and everything and I've really

slacked off. The pain started here and there but not severe enough

that I needed to take my pain killers. Then on Saturday I woke up

with the sillyest sypmtoms.. My left big toe was numb. It was like

that all day Saturday and Sunday.. It was the weirdest thing. Then

last night I started getting back pain and stiffness. I figured once

I got out of bed and walked it off I would feel better. Well that was

not the case. I slowly got out of bed and tried to pick up my 2 year

old and that almost took me to my knees. I'm only 24 years old and I

feel so horrible when I can't even pick up my daughter. The pain

stayed all day long. By 10am I decided to take a pain killer and

within 1 1/2 hours I needed another. Then by mid afternoon another

and then right now I took another pill. What in the world could cause

such a sudden onset of pain? I couldn't even give my daugheter a bath

today and I just wanted to cry. I did manage to take a shower but

with some pain while bending to wash my legs. My boyfriend says it's

probably because I haven't been doing my exercises and I " m sure that

has something to do with it. I guess I just hate the fact that I am

only 24 and this is something I'm going to have to deal with for the

rest of my life. I'm literally dreading going to bed right now cause

I know I'll wake up in a few hours in pain and with stiffness. I

dread what it will feel like in the morning. I hope it goes away just

as fast as it came.

Sorry for randomly posting. I just didn't have anywhere else to post

and needed to talk to people who understand what it's like to have a

back problem.

Thank you,

[Guest guest]

Thanks for your support . I finally got an email from him yesterday

explaining that he is in a deep depression and that his meds aren't working. He

apologized to me and said I was too good for him. He said he needed a couple of

weeks to get his act together and is just trying to survive each day. Maybe his

mental 'pain' I'd worse than what I'm going through. I'm trying to make sense of

it all. I'm sorry you had to hi through that kind of betrayal. It must be very

painful.

Thanks!

Rhonda

On Dec 17, 2008, at 11:54 AM, Lambert <glambert28@...> wrote:

Jeez Rhonda, I am so sorry you are having to deal with these issues. As far as

you ex is concerned, he doesn't deserve you AT ALL. Anyone that suffers from

spinal disorders, chronic pain, and trying to recover from a surgery, are truly

special people, they know what it's like to hurt, and operate from the heart and

not the brain. Your ex-boyfriend operates from the brain, and doesn't have the

heart to share in the purity. I was married for 10 years, and as soon as I got

down with my back she abandoned my life, she will have to answer to a higher

being for that in the end in my belief.

IMHO, I would say to you that the answer you are seeking with come to you when

you least expect it, as with happiest, do not let this get you down, keep on

track with your recovery, and stay true to your heart, you will get your reward.

george

The dog has seldom been successful in pulling man up to its level of sagacity,

but man has frequently dragged the dog down to his. Thurber

________________________________

From: Rhonda <loangoddess1961@...>

" spinal problems "

<spinal problems >

Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2008 9:06:14 AM

Subject: Re: Just need to vent

Since the fusion I had on October 22, the sciatica pain has home away. I'm

recovering from the surgery itself and the pain and spasms associated with that.

The PT and surgeon think that my recovery is so delayed because of the scoliosis

above the fusion.. The facia that connects all the muscles are trying to adjust

to their new positions. I'm not 100% but I'm feeling better each day. The PT

I've been seeing combines some different wholistic methods and that may be

making the big difference.

Not to change the subject but a big challenge for me mow is emotionally. For 4

weeks my boyfriend gave me the best loving care you can imagine. Then out of the

blue over Thankgiving weekend he cut me out of his life. I gave him some space

and wrote a beautiful email to him making it as easy as possible for him to let

me know what he wants to do but he has ignored that email and the 2 calls I made

to him. I have a friend who's a nurse that sees marrakgrs broken up over long

term illnesses. Mine recovery is taking longer than I was told but it is still

Temporary has anyone else had to deal with this kind of emotional pain and

abandonment while trying to recoupedste from surgery? I could use some advice.

Thanks!

Rhonda

On Dec 16, 2008, at 9:08 AM, " " <wendy.tom@earthlink .net> wrote:

Hi Rhonda

Ive been reading your postings, I used to run too, for years at the track, than

the treadmill, on top of nursing shifts, and years before that waitressing

double shifts through high school and college.

this past year the sciatica has been getting worse , some days worse than others

but pretty much always there.

If I didnt have the percs, I dont know what I would do, they are the only thing

that kills the pain.

I recently had a CT scan which showed my right SI joint has fused in the middle,

so I have pain there too.

The woman orthopedist said that often happens when there is poor movement in the

L4-5 facet joints, and she wants me to have a discogram to rule out that area as

the culprit of the pain.

Another Doc had wanted me to do that last spring, but I guess Im going to have

to do it, the MRI's are just not conclusive enough.

Anyway- Im posting cause I know what your going through with that sciatic pain,

god it stinks, and especially on a cold rainy day like weve got here in DC

today!

hang in there,

RN

Re: Just need to vent

I had a history of sciatica pain and last January started a diet and exercise

program and quickly lost 35 lbs. My pain went away and I thought I cured myself.

At this point I was working out 5-6 times a week with weights and low impact

exercise. I saw am old lady jogging and thought if she could to it so could I.

Little did I know at the time that the running wore away at what little disk I

had and the sciatica came back with a vengence. The doctor said the running is

the worst thing you can do.

Thanks!

Rhonda

On Dec 16, 2008, at 3:58 AM, " " <nessa1880 (DOT) com> wrote:

I was diagnosed with bilateral pars defect a few months ago. I did

physical therapy for 6 weeks which helped. I stopped therapy a few

weeks ago and did good the first 2 weeks being consistent with my

exercises. Then the holidays came and everything and I've really

slacked off. The pain started here and there but not severe enough

that I needed to take my pain killers. Then on Saturday I woke up

with the sillyest sypmtoms.. My left big toe was numb. It was like

that all day Saturday and Sunday.. It was the weirdest thing. Then

last night I started getting back pain and stiffness. I figured once

I got out of bed and walked it off I would feel better. Well that was

not the case. I slowly got out of bed and tried to pick up my 2 year

old and that almost took me to my knees. I'm only 24 years old and I

feel so horrible when I can't even pick up my daughter. The pain

stayed all day long. By 10am I decided to take a pain killer and

within 1 1/2 hours I needed another. Then by mid afternoon another

and then right now I took another pill. What in the world could cause

such a sudden onset of pain? I couldn't even give my daugheter a bath

today and I just wanted to cry. I did manage to take a shower but

with some pain while bending to wash my legs. My boyfriend says it's

probably because I haven't been doing my exercises and I " m sure that

has something to do with it. I guess I just hate the fact that I am

only 24 and this is something I'm going to have to deal with for the

rest of my life. I'm literally dreading going to bed right now cause

I know I'll wake up in a few hours in pain and with stiffness. I

dread what it will feel like in the morning. I hope it goes away just

as fast as it came.

Sorry for randomly posting. I just didn't have anywhere else to post

and needed to talk to people who understand what it's like to have a

back problem.

Thank you,

[Guest guest]

Hey Rhonda, it all works out in the end. If that had not happened to me I would

not have met the woman I am with now. That itself is a blessing, (sometimes)

lol  Maybe this will work out for you and he can get it together for the both of

you, I hope the best for ya'll, because no one deserves to be alone at this time

of the year. Just remember you have friends here, in the bad times as well as

the good. It may be friends you will never meet, but theres always someone that

will listen and respond.

george

 

The dog has seldom been successful in pulling man up to its level of sagacity,

but man has frequently dragged the dog down to his. Thurber

________________________________

From: Rhonda <loangoddess1961@...>

" spinal problems "

<spinal problems >

Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2008 12:38:25 PM

Subject: Re: Just need to vent

Thanks for your support . I finally got an email from him yesterday

explaining that he is in a deep depression and that his meds aren't working. He

apologized to me and said I was too good for him. He said he needed a couple of

weeks to get his act together and is just trying to survive each day. Maybe his

mental 'pain' I'd worse than what I'm going through. I'm trying to make sense of

it all. I'm sorry you had to hi through that kind of betrayal. It must be very

painful.

Thanks!

Rhonda

On Dec 17, 2008, at 11:54 AM, Lambert <glambert28 (DOT) com> wrote:

Jeez Rhonda, I am so sorry you are having to deal with these issues. As far as

you ex is concerned, he doesn't deserve you AT ALL. Anyone that suffers from

spinal disorders, chronic pain, and trying to recover from a surgery, are truly

special people, they know what it's like to hurt, and operate from the heart and

not the brain. Your ex-boyfriend operates from the brain, and doesn't have the

heart to share in the purity. I was married for 10 years, and as soon as I got

down with my back she abandoned my life, she will have to answer to a higher

being for that in the end in my belief.

IMHO, I would say to you that the answer you are seeking with come to you when

you least expect it, as with happiest, do not let this get you down, keep on

track with your recovery, and stay true to your heart, you will get your reward.

george

The dog has seldom been successful in pulling man up to its level of sagacity,

but man has frequently dragged the dog down to his. Thurber

____________ _________ _________ __

From: Rhonda <loangoddess1961>

" spinedisorderssuppo rtgroup@gro ups.com " <spinedisorderssuppo

rtgroup@gro ups.com>

Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2008 9:06:14 AM

Subject: Re: Just need to vent

Since the fusion I had on October 22, the sciatica pain has home away. I'm

recovering from the surgery itself and the pain and spasms associated with that.

The PT and surgeon think that my recovery is so delayed because of the scoliosis

above the fusion.. The facia that connects all the muscles are trying to adjust

to their new positions. I'm not 100% but I'm feeling better each day. The PT

I've been seeing combines some different wholistic methods and that may be

making the big difference.

Not to change the subject but a big challenge for me mow is emotionally. For 4

weeks my boyfriend gave me the best loving care you can imagine. Then out of the

blue over Thankgiving weekend he cut me out of his life. I gave him some space

and wrote a beautiful email to him making it as easy as possible for him to let

me know what he wants to do but he has ignored that email and the 2 calls I made

to him. I have a friend who's a nurse that sees marrakgrs broken up over long

term illnesses. Mine recovery is taking longer than I was told but it is still

Temporary has anyone else had to deal with this kind of emotional pain and

abandonment while trying to recoupedste from surgery? I could use some advice.

Thanks!

Rhonda

On Dec 16, 2008, at 9:08 AM, " " <wendy.tom@earthlin k .net> wrote:

Hi Rhonda

Ive been reading your postings, I used to run too, for years at the track, than

the treadmill, on top of nursing shifts, and years before that waitressing

double shifts through high school and college.

this past year the sciatica has been getting worse , some days worse than others

but pretty much always there.

If I didnt have the percs, I dont know what I would do, they are the only thing

that kills the pain.

I recently had a CT scan which showed my right SI joint has fused in the middle,

so I have pain there too.

The woman orthopedist said that often happens when there is poor movement in the

L4-5 facet joints, and she wants me to have a discogram to rule out that area as

the culprit of the pain.

Another Doc had wanted me to do that last spring, but I guess Im going to have

to do it, the MRI's are just not conclusive enough.

Anyway- Im posting cause I know what your going through with that sciatic pain,

god it stinks, and especially on a cold rainy day like weve got here in DC

today!

hang in there,

RN

Re: Just need to vent

I had a history of sciatica pain and last January started a diet and exercise

program and quickly lost 35 lbs. My pain went away and I thought I cured myself.

At this point I was working out 5-6 times a week with weights and low impact

exercise. I saw am old lady jogging and thought if she could to it so could I.

Little did I know at the time that the running wore away at what little disk I

had and the sciatica came back with a vengence. The doctor said the running is

the worst thing you can do.

Thanks!

Rhonda

On Dec 16, 2008, at 3:58 AM, " " <nessa1880 (DOT) com> wrote:

I was diagnosed with bilateral pars defect a few months ago. I did

physical therapy for 6 weeks which helped. I stopped therapy a few

weeks ago and did good the first 2 weeks being consistent with my

exercises. Then the holidays came and everything and I've really

slacked off. The pain started here and there but not severe enough

that I needed to take my pain killers. Then on Saturday I woke up

with the sillyest sypmtoms.. My left big toe was numb. It was like

that all day Saturday and Sunday.. It was the weirdest thing. Then

last night I started getting back pain and stiffness. I figured once

I got out of bed and walked it off I would feel better. Well that was

not the case. I slowly got out of bed and tried to pick up my 2 year

old and that almost took me to my knees. I'm only 24 years old and I

feel so horrible when I can't even pick up my daughter. The pain

stayed all day long. By 10am I decided to take a pain killer and

within 1 1/2 hours I needed another. Then by mid afternoon another

and then right now I took another pill. What in the world could cause

such a sudden onset of pain? I couldn't even give my daugheter a bath

today and I just wanted to cry. I did manage to take a shower but

with some pain while bending to wash my legs. My boyfriend says it's

probably because I haven't been doing my exercises and I " m sure that

has something to do with it. I guess I just hate the fact that I am

only 24 and this is something I'm going to have to deal with for the

rest of my life. I'm literally dreading going to bed right now cause

I know I'll wake up in a few hours in pain and with stiffness. I

dread what it will feel like in the morning. I hope it goes away just

as fast as it came.

Sorry for randomly posting. I just didn't have anywhere else to post

and needed to talk to people who understand what it's like to have a

back problem.

Thank you,

[Guest guest]

Rhonda,

I've been reading your messages and I'm so sorry this is happening. I

have dealt with depression and anxiety for years and it became worse

when my daughter was born with Di Syndrome 2 years ago and then

worse when she had open heart surgery for her heart defect. I know it

takes alot out of me when my family members get sick or have surgery.

I'm not sure how serious his condition is but I pray that he can get

through this and finds the right treatment.

> > >

> > > I was diagnosed with bilateral pars defect a few

> > > months ago. I did

> > > physical therapy for 6 weeks which helped. I

> > stopped

> > > therapy a few

> > > weeks ago and did good the first 2 weeks being

> > > consistent with my

> > > exercises. Then the holidays came and everything

> > and

> > > I've really

> > > slacked off. The pain started here and there but

> > not

> > > severe enough

> > > that I needed to take my pain killers. Then on

> > > Saturday I woke up

> > > with the sillyest sypmtoms. My left big toe was

> > > numb. It was like

> > > that all day Saturday and Sunday. It was the

> > > weirdest thing. Then

> > > last night I started getting back pain and

> > > stiffness. I figured once

> > > I got out of bed and walked it off I would feel

> > > better. Well that was

> > > not the case. I slowly got out of bed and tried to

> > > pick up my 2 year

> > > old and that almost took me to my knees. I'm only

> > 24

> > > years old and I

> > > feel so horrible when I can't even pick up my

> > > daughter. The pain

> > > stayed all day long. By 10am I decided to take a

> > > pain killer and

> > > within 1 1/2 hours I needed another. Then by mid

> > > afternoon another

> > > and then right now I took another pill. What in

> > the

> > > world could cause

> > > such a sudden onset of pain? I couldn't even give

> > my

> > > daugheter a bath

> > > today and I just wanted to cry. I did manage to

> > take

> > > a shower but

> > > with some pain while bending to wash my legs. My

> > > boyfriend says it's

> > > probably because I haven't been doing my exercises

> > > and I " m sure that

> > > has something to do with it. I guess I just hate

> > the

> > > fact that I am

> > > only 24 and this is something I'm going to have to

> > > deal with for the

> > > rest of my life. I'm literally dreading going to

> > bed

> > > right now cause

> > > I know I'll wake up in a few hours in pain and

> > with

> > > stiffness. I

> >

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[Guest guest]

Rhonda,

That's great your PT helped realign your legs. My PT did the same

thing and I was totally amazed when I got up to walk. I can't believe

it took only a few seconds to correct my hip alignment. Thankfully

it's an easy exercise I can do myself and do that at least twice a

day. I can see a difference when I do it.

> > >

> > > I was diagnosed with bilateral pars defect a few

> > > months ago. I did

> > > physical therapy for 6 weeks which helped. I

> > stopped

> > > therapy a few

> > > weeks ago and did good the first 2 weeks being

> > > consistent with my

> > > exercises. Then the holidays came and everything

> > and

> > > I've really

> > > slacked off. The pain started here and there but

> > not

> > > severe enough

> > > that I needed to take my pain killers. Then on

> > > Saturday I woke up

> > > with the sillyest sypmtoms. My left big toe was

> > > numb. It was like

> > > that all day Saturday and Sunday. It was the

> > > weirdest thing. Then

> > > last night I started getting back pain and

> > > stiffness. I figured once

> > > I got out of bed and walked it off I would feel

> > > better. Well that was

> > > not the case. I slowly got out of bed and tried to

> > > pick up my 2 year

> > > old and that almost took me to my knees. I'm only

> > 24

> > > years old and I

> > > feel so horrible when I can't even pick up my

> > > daughter. The pain

> > > stayed all day long. By 10am I decided to take a

> > > pain killer and

> > > within 1 1/2 hours I needed another. Then by mid

> > > afternoon another

> > > and then right now I took another pill. What in

> > the

> > > world could cause

> > > such a sudden onset of pain? I couldn't even give

> > my

> > > daugheter a bath

> > > today and I just wanted to cry. I did manage to

> > take

> > > a shower but

> > > with some pain while bending to wash my legs. My

> > > boyfriend says it's

> > > probably because I haven't been doing my exercises

> > > and I " m sure that

> > > has something to do with it. I guess I just hate

> > the

> > > fact that I am

> > > only 24 and this is something I'm going to have to

> > > deal with for the

> > > rest of my life. I'm literally dreading going to

> > bed

> > > right now cause

> > > I know I'll wake up in a few hours in pain and

> > with

> > > stiffness. I

> >

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[Guest guest]

thank you so much for your post. I really needed to hear that

tonight. It really gets me upset with my boyfriend cause he just

doesn't get it. He told me I was hurting because I was sick and was

laid up for 2 days. Yes I'm sure that didnt' help but I wanted to

just smack him the way he said it. Then today when we were out

shopping I told him my left foot was starting to go numb and that

freaked me out....he tells me to just walk it off. Argh!! I know they

can't feel our pain but they don't have to be rude about it either.

This is not something I can just " walk off " . Okay...so sorry for the

vent session. Thanks for listening

>

> ,

> I know there are no words to help you to understand what is

happening to you. I for one am 51 and in some way or another been in

pain most all my life, and still can't understand, why me. Only now

after finding a group like this one have I been trying to accept what

I have to deal with is not just on my shoulders, but on a lot of

people that are suffering the same way. It doesn't really help with

the pain truthfully, but for some reason just knowing that others

understand fully what I am going through help ease my mind of this

burden.

> I hope you can find a way to deal with the pain, and there are ways

to help you not make matters worst, and still be able to be an active

part of your families life. Rest assure they will understand one day,

and know that being a sufferer of chronic pain, you have put all of

you into their lives, you will be rewarded.

> I will be praying for you and your family.

>  

> george

>  

> The dog has seldom been successful in pulling man up to its level

of sagacity, but man has frequently dragged the dog down to his.

Thurber

>

>

>

>

>

> ________________________________

> From: <nessa1880@...>

> spinal problems

> Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2008 2:58:42 AM

> Subject: Just need to vent

>

>

> I was diagnosed with bilateral pars defect a few months ago. I did

> physical therapy for 6 weeks which helped. I stopped therapy a few

> weeks ago and did good the first 2 weeks being consistent with my

> exercises. Then the holidays came and everything and I've really

> slacked off. The pain started here and there but not severe enough

> that I needed to take my pain killers. Then on Saturday I woke up

> with the sillyest sypmtoms. My left big toe was numb. It was like

> that all day Saturday and Sunday. It was the weirdest thing. Then

> last night I started getting back pain and stiffness. I figured

once

> I got out of bed and walked it off I would feel better. Well that

was

> not the case. I slowly got out of bed and tried to pick up my 2

year

> old and that almost took me to my knees. I'm only 24 years old and

I

> feel so horrible when I can't even pick up my daughter. The pain

> stayed all day long. By 10am I decided to take a pain killer and

> within 1 1/2 hours I needed another. Then by mid afternoon another

> and then right now I took another pill. What in the world could

cause

> such a sudden onset of pain? I couldn't even give my daugheter a

bath

> today and I just wanted to cry. I did manage to take a shower but

> with some pain while bending to wash my legs. My boyfriend says

it's

> probably because I haven't been doing my exercises and I " m sure

that

> has something to do with it. I guess I just hate the fact that I am

> only 24 and this is something I'm going to have to deal with for

the

> rest of my life. I'm literally dreading going to bed right now

cause

> I know I'll wake up in a few hours in pain and with stiffness. I

> dread what it will feel like in the morning. I hope it goes away

just

> as fast as it came.

>

> Sorry for randomly posting. I just didn't have anywhere else to

post

> and needed to talk to people who understand what it's like to have

a

> back problem.

>

> Thank you,

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

So I just had to tell you all what happened when I called my doctor

today.

I guess first of all I should say that today I felt alot better. I

actually started my exercises up yesterday and that must of really

helped out. I only took 1 pain pill today and that was because I

needed to go christmas shopping.

Anyways, I decided to call my doctor and let her know what was going

on. I wanted to see if maybe I needed to go to the PT a few more

times. I have to get a referral approved for more visits before I can

go to PT. I also wanted to know if she could give me a referral to a

new orthosurgeon. The one I first saw left the clinic after 2 months

of me being there. I thought since I was having such bad pain the

past few days that it would be within my best interest to seek out

another doctor to at least get the initial appt out the way. I am

also wondering if they need to do any CTs or MRIs of my back. So far

the only thing done has been x-rays. So on to the story....I left a

message with the nurse and get a call back from the nurse telling me

the doctor (or actually PA) wants me to go to an urgent care and get

evaluated. I was confused as to why that was. She tells me because my

pain is not normal. ???? I told her I have a history of back problems

and don't understand why she would send me to an urgent care. I

wanted to see about getting in to see a new doctor. There is nothing

an urgent care can do for me. So I call back and ask for the doctor

to call me back and of course I don't get a call back.

I hope to hear from her tomorrow nad would like to get a referrel for

another doctor. I'm also a little confused as to why I see a

orthosurgeon (neurosurgeon). I guess because he would be the one to

do a surgery on me if I ever need to have surgery. But these doctors

deal with such serious surgeries that they look at me like I'm stupid

and shrug me off. Is it normal to see a surgeon for regular followup?

I just want to thank you all for your support. It really helps having

people to talk to that know what its like to have back problems.

Thank you,

> >

> > ,

> > I know there are no words to help you to understand what is

> happening to you. I for one am 51 and in some way or another been

in

> pain most all my life, and still can't understand, why me. Only now

> after finding a group like this one have I been trying to accept

what

> I have to deal with is not just on my shoulders, but on a lot of

> people that are suffering the same way. It doesn't really help with

> the pain truthfully, but for some reason just knowing that others

> understand fully what I am going through help ease my mind of this

> burden.

> > I hope you can find a way to deal with the pain, and there are

ways

> to help you not make matters worst, and still be able to be an

active

> part of your families life. Rest assure they will understand one

day,

> and know that being a sufferer of chronic pain, you have put all of

> you into their lives, you will be rewarded.

> > I will be praying for you and your family.

> >  

> > george

> >  

> > The dog has seldom been successful in pulling man up to its level

> of sagacity, but man has frequently dragged the dog down to his.

> Thurber

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > ________________________________

> > From: <nessa1880@>

> > spinal problems

> > Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2008 2:58:42 AM

> > Subject: Just need to vent

> >

> >

> > I was diagnosed with bilateral pars defect a few months ago. I

did

> > physical therapy for 6 weeks which helped. I stopped therapy a

few

> > weeks ago and did good the first 2 weeks being consistent with my

> > exercises. Then the holidays came and everything and I've really

> > slacked off. The pain started here and there but not severe

enough

> > that I needed to take my pain killers. Then on Saturday I woke up

> > with the sillyest sypmtoms. My left big toe was numb. It was like

> > that all day Saturday and Sunday. It was the weirdest thing. Then

> > last night I started getting back pain and stiffness. I figured

> once

> > I got out of bed and walked it off I would feel better. Well that

> was

> > not the case. I slowly got out of bed and tried to pick up my 2

> year

> > old and that almost took me to my knees. I'm only 24 years old

and

> I

> > feel so horrible when I can't even pick up my daughter. The pain

> > stayed all day long. By 10am I decided to take a pain killer and

> > within 1 1/2 hours I needed another. Then by mid afternoon

another

> > and then right now I took another pill. What in the world could

> cause

> > such a sudden onset of pain? I couldn't even give my daugheter a

> bath

> > today and I just wanted to cry. I did manage to take a shower but

> > with some pain while bending to wash my legs. My boyfriend says

> it's

> > probably because I haven't been doing my exercises and I " m sure

> that

> > has something to do with it. I guess I just hate the fact that I

am

> > only 24 and this is something I'm going to have to deal with for

> the

> > rest of my life. I'm literally dreading going to bed right now

> cause

> > I know I'll wake up in a few hours in pain and with stiffness. I

> > dread what it will feel like in the morning. I hope it goes away

> just

> > as fast as it came.

> >

> > Sorry for randomly posting. I just didn't have anywhere else to

> post

> > and needed to talk to people who understand what it's like to

have

> a

> > back problem.

> >

> > Thank you,

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Thank you do much george. That really does help. Funny I've been just observing

comments on another group called real advice. Do jerry springerish. I couldn't

bring myself to put my situation on there. But with group it felt right. That

you all understand more of what I'm going through.

Thanks!

Rhonda

On Dec 18, 2008, at 3:38 AM, Lambert <glambert28@...> wrote:

Hey Rhonda, it all works out in the end. If that had not happened to me I would

not have met the woman I am with now. That itself is a blessing, (sometimes) lol

Maybe this will work out for you and he can get it together for the both of you,

I hope the best for ya'll, because no one deserves to be alone at this time of

the year. Just remember you have friends here, in the bad times as well as the

good. It may be friends you will never meet, but theres always someone that will

listen and respond.

george

The dog has seldom been successful in pulling man up to its level of sagacity,

but man has frequently dragged the dog down to his. Thurber

________________________________

From: Rhonda <loangoddess1961@...>

" spinal problems "

<spinal problems >

Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2008 12:38:25 PM

Subject: Re: Just need to vent

Thanks for your support . I finally got an email from him yesterday

explaining that he is in a deep depression and that his meds aren't working. He

apologized to me and said I was too good for him. He said he needed a couple of

weeks to get his act together and is just trying to survive each day. Maybe his

mental 'pain' I'd worse than what I'm going through. I'm trying to make sense of

it all. I'm sorry you had to hi through that kind of betrayal. It must be very

painful.

Thanks!

Rhonda

On Dec 17, 2008, at 11:54 AM, Lambert <glambert28 (DOT) com> wrote:

Jeez Rhonda, I am so sorry you are having to deal with these issues. As far as

you ex is concerned, he doesn't deserve you AT ALL. Anyone that suffers from

spinal disorders, chronic pain, and trying to recover from a surgery, are truly

special people, they know what it's like to hurt, and operate from the heart and

not the brain. Your ex-boyfriend operates from the brain, and doesn't have the

heart to share in the purity. I was married for 10 years, and as soon as I got

down with my back she abandoned my life, she will have to answer to a higher

being for that in the end in my belief.

IMHO, I would say to you that the answer you are seeking with come to you when

you least expect it, as with happiest, do not let this get you down, keep on

track with your recovery, and stay true to your heart, you will get your reward.

george

The dog has seldom been successful in pulling man up to its level of sagacity,

but man has frequently dragged the dog down to his. Thurber

____________ _________ _________ __

From: Rhonda <loangoddess1961>

" spinedisorderssuppo rtgroup@gro ups.com " <spinedisorderssuppo

rtgroup@gro ups.com>

Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2008 9:06:14 AM

Subject: Re: Just need to vent

Since the fusion I had on October 22, the sciatica pain has home away. I'm

recovering from the surgery itself and the pain and spasms associated with that.

The PT and surgeon think that my recovery is so delayed because of the scoliosis

above the fusion.. The facia that connects all the muscles are trying to adjust

to their new positions. I'm not 100% but I'm feeling better each day. The PT

I've been seeing combines some different wholistic methods and that may be

making the big difference.

Not to change the subject but a big challenge for me mow is emotionally. For 4

weeks my boyfriend gave me the best loving care you can imagine. Then out of the

blue over Thankgiving weekend he cut me out of his life. I gave him some space

and wrote a beautiful email to him making it as easy as possible for him to let

me know what he wants to do but he has ignored that email and the 2 calls I made

to him. I have a friend who's a nurse that sees marrakgrs broken up over long

term illnesses. Mine recovery is taking longer than I was told but it is still

Temporary has anyone else had to deal with this kind of emotional pain and

abandonment while trying to recoupedste from surgery? I could use some advice.

Thanks!

Rhonda

On Dec 16, 2008, at 9:08 AM, " " <wendy.tom@earthlin k .net> wrote:

Hi Rhonda

Ive been reading your postings, I used to run too, for years at the track, than

the treadmill, on top of nursing shifts, and years before that waitressing

double shifts through high school and college.

this past year the sciatica has been getting worse , some days worse than others

but pretty much always there.

If I didnt have the percs, I dont know what I would do, they are the only thing

that kills the pain.

I recently had a CT scan which showed my right SI joint has fused in the middle,

so I have pain there too.

The woman orthopedist said that often happens when there is poor movement in the

L4-5 facet joints, and she wants me to have a discogram to rule out that area as

the culprit of the pain.

Another Doc had wanted me to do that last spring, but I guess Im going to have

to do it, the MRI's are just not conclusive enough.

Anyway- Im posting cause I know what your going through with that sciatic pain,

god it stinks, and especially on a cold rainy day like weve got here in DC

today!

hang in there,

RN

Re: Just need to vent

I had a history of sciatica pain and last January started a diet and exercise

program and quickly lost 35 lbs. My pain went away and I thought I cured myself.

At this point I was working out 5-6 times a week with weights and low impact

exercise. I saw am old lady jogging and thought if she could to it so could I.

Little did I know at the time that the running wore away at what little disk I

had and the sciatica came back with a vengence. The doctor said the running is

the worst thing you can do.

Thanks!

Rhonda

On Dec 16, 2008, at 3:58 AM, " " <nessa1880 (DOT) com> wrote:

I was diagnosed with bilateral pars defect a few months ago. I did

physical therapy for 6 weeks which helped. I stopped therapy a few

weeks ago and did good the first 2 weeks being consistent with my

exercises. Then the holidays came and everything and I've really

slacked off. The pain started here and there but not severe enough

that I needed to take my pain killers. Then on Saturday I woke up

with the sillyest sypmtoms.. My left big toe was numb. It was like

that all day Saturday and Sunday.. It was the weirdest thing. Then

last night I started getting back pain and stiffness. I figured once

I got out of bed and walked it off I would feel better. Well that was

not the case. I slowly got out of bed and tried to pick up my 2 year

old and that almost took me to my knees. I'm only 24 years old and I

feel so horrible when I can't even pick up my daughter. The pain

stayed all day long. By 10am I decided to take a pain killer and

within 1 1/2 hours I needed another. Then by mid afternoon another

and then right now I took another pill. What in the world could cause

such a sudden onset of pain? I couldn't even give my daugheter a bath

today and I just wanted to cry. I did manage to take a shower but

with some pain while bending to wash my legs. My boyfriend says it's

probably because I haven't been doing my exercises and I " m sure that

has something to do with it. I guess I just hate the fact that I am

only 24 and this is something I'm going to have to deal with for the

rest of my life. I'm literally dreading going to bed right now cause

I know I'll wake up in a few hours in pain and with stiffness. I

dread what it will feel like in the morning. I hope it goes away just

as fast as it came.

Sorry for randomly posting. I just didn't have anywhere else to post

and needed to talk to people who understand what it's like to have a

back problem.

Thank you,

[Guest guest]

Thanks vanessa. I think his daughtervisvhsvimg surgery today as a matter of

fact. I have decided that I'd just try to send him love and light during my

meditations each day and to try to put any hurt front aside at least fotbthr

next fee weeks eholevim still at home recouping. It gets hard not to obsess

about things lokevtjis when you're stuck home most of the time. I look forward

to PT just to get out if the house! Crazy.

I did drive by myself yesterday for a few quick errrnds for the first time. Bank

post office etc. I just don't want to over do it. My friends at work want me to

go to a party this weekend. Maybe I'll go and it may help. Thanks for listening.

Thanks

Rhonda

On Dec 18, 2008, at 3:45 AM, " " <nessa1880@...> wrote:

Rhonda,

I've been reading your messages and I'm so sorry this is happening. I

have dealt with depression and anxiety for years and it became worse

when my daughter was born with Di Syndrome 2 years ago and then

worse when she had open heart surgery for her heart defect. I know it

takes alot out of me when my family members get sick or have surgery.

I'm not sure how serious his condition is but I pray that he can get

through this and finds the right treatment.

> > >

> > > I was diagnosed with bilateral pars defect a few

> > > months ago. I did

> > > physical therapy for 6 weeks which helped. I

> > stopped

> > > therapy a few

> > > weeks ago and did good the first 2 weeks being

> > > consistent with my

> > > exercises. Then the holidays came and everything

> > and

> > > I've really

> > > slacked off. The pain started here and there but

> > not

> > > severe enough

> > > that I needed to take my pain killers. Then on

> > > Saturday I woke up

> > > with the sillyest sypmtoms. My left big toe was

> > > numb. It was like

> > > that all day Saturday and Sunday. It was the

> > > weirdest thing. Then

> > > last night I started getting back pain and

> > > stiffness. I figured once

> > > I got out of bed and walked it off I would feel

> > > better. Well that was

> > > not the case. I slowly got out of bed and tried to

> > > pick up my 2 year

> > > old and that almost took me to my knees. I'm only

> > 24

> > > years old and I

> > > feel so horrible when I can't even pick up my

> > > daughter. The pain

> > > stayed all day long. By 10am I decided to take a

> > > pain killer and

> > > within 1 1/2 hours I needed another. Then by mid

> > > afternoon another

> > > and then right now I took another pill. What in

> > the

> > > world could cause

> > > such a sudden onset of pain? I couldn't even give

> > my

> > > daugheter a bath

> > > today and I just wanted to cry. I did manage to

> > take

> > > a shower but

> > > with some pain while bending to wash my legs. My

> > > boyfriend says it's

> > > probably because I haven't been doing my exercises

> > > and I " m sure that

> > > has something to do with it. I guess I just hate

> > the

> > > fact that I am

> > > only 24 and this is something I'm going to have to

> > > deal with for the

> > > rest of my life. I'm literally dreading going to

> > bed

> > > right now cause

> > > I know I'll wake up in a few hours in pain and

> > with

> > > stiffness. I

> >

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