Re: just need to vent

[Guest guest]

She didn't tell me to do any special exercise for it. I'll have to ask her.

Apparently the hip rotation thing runs in my family. Can you describe your

exercises ?

Thanks!

Rhonda

On Dec 18, 2008, at 3:48 AM, " " <nessa1880@...> wrote:

Rhonda,

That's great your PT helped realign your legs. My PT did the same

thing and I was totally amazed when I got up to walk. I can't believe

it took only a few seconds to correct my hip alignment. Thankfully

it's an easy exercise I can do myself and do that at least twice a

day. I can see a difference when I do it.

> > >

> > > I was diagnosed with bilateral pars defect a few

> > > months ago. I did

> > > physical therapy for 6 weeks which helped. I

> > stopped

> > > therapy a few

> > > weeks ago and did good the first 2 weeks being

> > > consistent with my

> > > exercises. Then the holidays came and everything

> > and

> > > I've really

> > > slacked off. The pain started here and there but

> > not

> > > severe enough

> > > that I needed to take my pain killers. Then on

> > > Saturday I woke up

> > > with the sillyest sypmtoms. My left big toe was

> > > numb. It was like

> > > that all day Saturday and Sunday. It was the

> > > weirdest thing. Then

> > > last night I started getting back pain and

> > > stiffness. I figured once

> > > I got out of bed and walked it off I would feel

> > > better. Well that was

> > > not the case. I slowly got out of bed and tried to

> > > pick up my 2 year

> > > old and that almost took me to my knees. I'm only

> > 24

> > > years old and I

> > > feel so horrible when I can't even pick up my

> > > daughter. The pain

> > > stayed all day long. By 10am I decided to take a

> > > pain killer and

> > > within 1 1/2 hours I needed another. Then by mid

> > > afternoon another

> > > and then right now I took another pill. What in

> > the

> > > world could cause

> > > such a sudden onset of pain? I couldn't even give

> > my

> > > daugheter a bath

> > > today and I just wanted to cry. I did manage to

> > take

> > > a shower but

> > > with some pain while bending to wash my legs. My

> > > boyfriend says it's

> > > probably because I haven't been doing my exercises

> > > and I " m sure that

> > > has something to do with it. I guess I just hate

> > the

> > > fact that I am

> > > only 24 and this is something I'm going to have to

> > > deal with for the

> > > rest of my life. I'm literally dreading going to

> > bed

> > > right now cause

> > > I know I'll wake up in a few hours in pain and

> > with

> > > stiffness. I

> >

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[Guest guest]

Turns out the x-ray showed DDD nut I needed the MRI to show that there was no

disk left at all. Had I not insisted in the MRI they would only have tried

epidural injections that would not have helped me. Only the MRI would show

what's really going on. Prior to surgery I would be walking and my whole leg

from top to bottom would go numb.

Thanks!

Rhonda

On Dec 18, 2008, at 4:01 AM, " " <nessa1880@...> wrote:

So I just had to tell you all what happened when I called my doctor

today.

I guess first of all I should say that today I felt alot better. I

actually started my exercises up yesterday and that must of really

helped out. I only took 1 pain pill today and that was because I

needed to go christmas shopping.

Anyways, I decided to call my doctor and let her know what was going

on. I wanted to see if maybe I needed to go to the PT a few more

times. I have to get a referral approved for more visits before I can

go to PT. I also wanted to know if she could give me a referral to a

new orthosurgeon. The one I first saw left the clinic after 2 months

of me being there. I thought since I was having such bad pain the

past few days that it would be within my best interest to seek out

another doctor to at least get the initial appt out the way. I am

also wondering if they need to do any CTs or MRIs of my back. So far

the only thing done has been x-rays. So on to the story....I left a

message with the nurse and get a call back from the nurse telling me

the doctor (or actually PA) wants me to go to an urgent care and get

evaluated. I was confused as to why that was. She tells me because my

pain is not normal. ???? I told her I have a history of back problems

and don't understand why she would send me to an urgent care. I

wanted to see about getting in to see a new doctor. There is nothing

an urgent care can do for me. So I call back and ask for the doctor

to call me back and of course I don't get a call back.

I hope to hear from her tomorrow nad would like to get a referrel for

another doctor. I'm also a little confused as to why I see a

orthosurgeon (neurosurgeon). I guess because he would be the one to

do a surgery on me if I ever need to have surgery. But these doctors

deal with such serious surgeries that they look at me like I'm stupid

and shrug me off. Is it normal to see a surgeon for regular followup?

I just want to thank you all for your support. It really helps having

people to talk to that know what its like to have back problems.

Thank you,

> >

> > ,

> > I know there are no words to help you to understand what is

> happening to you. I for one am 51 and in some way or another been

in

> pain most all my life, and still can't understand, why me. Only now

> after finding a group like this one have I been trying to accept

what

> I have to deal with is not just on my shoulders, but on a lot of

> people that are suffering the same way. It doesn't really help with

> the pain truthfully, but for some reason just knowing that others

> understand fully what I am going through help ease my mind of this

> burden.

> > I hope you can find a way to deal with the pain, and there are

ways

> to help you not make matters worst, and still be able to be an

active

> part of your families life. Rest assure they will understand one

day,

> and know that being a sufferer of chronic pain, you have put all of

> you into their lives, you will be rewarded.

> > I will be praying for you and your family.

> >

> > george

> >

> > The dog has seldom been successful in pulling man up to its level

> of sagacity, but man has frequently dragged the dog down to his.

> Thurber

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > ________________________________

> > From: <nessa1880@>

> > spinal problems

> > Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2008 2:58:42 AM

> > Subject: Just need to vent

> >

> >

> > I was diagnosed with bilateral pars defect a few months ago. I

did

> > physical therapy for 6 weeks which helped. I stopped therapy a

few

> > weeks ago and did good the first 2 weeks being consistent with my

> > exercises. Then the holidays came and everything and I've really

> > slacked off. The pain started here and there but not severe

enough

> > that I needed to take my pain killers. Then on Saturday I woke up

> > with the sillyest sypmtoms. My left big toe was numb. It was like

> > that all day Saturday and Sunday. It was the weirdest thing. Then

> > last night I started getting back pain and stiffness. I figured

> once

> > I got out of bed and walked it off I would feel better. Well that

> was

> > not the case. I slowly got out of bed and tried to pick up my 2

> year

> > old and that almost took me to my knees. I'm only 24 years old

and

> I

> > feel so horrible when I can't even pick up my daughter. The pain

> > stayed all day long. By 10am I decided to take a pain killer and

> > within 1 1/2 hours I needed another. Then by mid afternoon

another

> > and then right now I took another pill. What in the world could

> cause

> > such a sudden onset of pain? I couldn't even give my daugheter a

> bath

> > today and I just wanted to cry. I did manage to take a shower but

> > with some pain while bending to wash my legs. My boyfriend says

> it's

> > probably because I haven't been doing my exercises and I " m sure

> that

> > has something to do with it. I guess I just hate the fact that I

am

> > only 24 and this is something I'm going to have to deal with for

> the

> > rest of my life. I'm literally dreading going to bed right now

> cause

> > I know I'll wake up in a few hours in pain and with stiffness. I

> > dread what it will feel like in the morning. I hope it goes away

> just

> > as fast as it came.

> >

> > Sorry for randomly posting. I just didn't have anywhere else to

> post

> > and needed to talk to people who understand what it's like to

have

> a

> > back problem.

> >

> > Thank you,

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

,

Yes it is normal to follow up with a surgeon een if you haven't had surgery.

Deb RN

From: spinal problems

[mailto:spinal problems ] On Behalf Of Rhonda

Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2008 6:21 AM

spinal problems

Subject: Re: Just need to vent

Turns out the x-ray showed DDD nut I needed the MRI to show that there was

no disk left at all. Had I not insisted in the MRI they would only have

tried epidural injections that would not have helped me. Only the MRI would

show what's really going on. Prior to surgery I would be walking and my

whole leg from top to bottom would go numb.

Thanks!

Rhonda

On Dec 18, 2008, at 4:01 AM, " " <nessa1880@...

<mailto:nessa1880%40> > wrote:

So I just had to tell you all what happened when I called my doctor

today.

I guess first of all I should say that today I felt alot better. I

actually started my exercises up yesterday and that must of really

helped out. I only took 1 pain pill today and that was because I

needed to go christmas shopping.

Anyways, I decided to call my doctor and let her know what was going

on. I wanted to see if maybe I needed to go to the PT a few more

times. I have to get a referral approved for more visits before I can

go to PT. I also wanted to know if she could give me a referral to a

new orthosurgeon. The one I first saw left the clinic after 2 months

of me being there. I thought since I was having such bad pain the

past few days that it would be within my best interest to seek out

another doctor to at least get the initial appt out the way. I am

also wondering if they need to do any CTs or MRIs of my back. So far

the only thing done has been x-rays. So on to the story....I left a

message with the nurse and get a call back from the nurse telling me

the doctor (or actually PA) wants me to go to an urgent care and get

evaluated. I was confused as to why that was. She tells me because my

pain is not normal. ???? I told her I have a history of back problems

and don't understand why she would send me to an urgent care. I

wanted to see about getting in to see a new doctor. There is nothing

an urgent care can do for me. So I call back and ask for the doctor

to call me back and of course I don't get a call back.

I hope to hear from her tomorrow nad would like to get a referrel for

another doctor. I'm also a little confused as to why I see a

orthosurgeon (neurosurgeon). I guess because he would be the one to

do a surgery on me if I ever need to have surgery. But these doctors

deal with such serious surgeries that they look at me like I'm stupid

and shrug me off. Is it normal to see a surgeon for regular followup?

I just want to thank you all for your support. It really helps having

people to talk to that know what its like to have back problems.

Thank you,

> >

> > ,

> > I know there are no words to help you to understand what is

> happening to you. I for one am 51 and in some way or another been

in

> pain most all my life, and still can't understand, why me. Only now

> after finding a group like this one have I been trying to accept

what

> I have to deal with is not just on my shoulders, but on a lot of

> people that are suffering the same way. It doesn't really help with

> the pain truthfully, but for some reason just knowing that others

> understand fully what I am going through help ease my mind of this

> burden.

> > I hope you can find a way to deal with the pain, and there are

ways

> to help you not make matters worst, and still be able to be an

active

> part of your families life. Rest assure they will understand one

day,

> and know that being a sufferer of chronic pain, you have put all of

> you into their lives, you will be rewarded.

> > I will be praying for you and your family.

> >

> > george

> >

> > The dog has seldom been successful in pulling man up to its level

> of sagacity, but man has frequently dragged the dog down to his.

> Thurber

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > ________________________________

> > From: <nessa1880@>

> > spinal problems

<mailto:spinal problems%40>

> > Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2008 2:58:42 AM

> > Subject: Just need to vent

> >

> >

> > I was diagnosed with bilateral pars defect a few months ago. I

did

> > physical therapy for 6 weeks which helped. I stopped therapy a

few

> > weeks ago and did good the first 2 weeks being consistent with my

> > exercises. Then the holidays came and everything and I've really

> > slacked off. The pain started here and there but not severe

enough

> > that I needed to take my pain killers. Then on Saturday I woke up

> > with the sillyest sypmtoms. My left big toe was numb. It was like

> > that all day Saturday and Sunday. It was the weirdest thing. Then

> > last night I started getting back pain and stiffness. I figured

> once

> > I got out of bed and walked it off I would feel better. Well that

> was

> > not the case. I slowly got out of bed and tried to pick up my 2

> year

> > old and that almost took me to my knees. I'm only 24 years old

and

> I

> > feel so horrible when I can't even pick up my daughter. The pain

> > stayed all day long. By 10am I decided to take a pain killer and

> > within 1 1/2 hours I needed another. Then by mid afternoon

another

> > and then right now I took another pill. What in the world could

> cause

> > such a sudden onset of pain? I couldn't even give my daugheter a

> bath

> > today and I just wanted to cry. I did manage to take a shower but

> > with some pain while bending to wash my legs. My boyfriend says

> it's

> > probably because I haven't been doing my exercises and I " m sure

> that

> > has something to do with it. I guess I just hate the fact that I

am

> > only 24 and this is something I'm going to have to deal with for

> the

> > rest of my life. I'm literally dreading going to bed right now

> cause

> > I know I'll wake up in a few hours in pain and with stiffness. I

> > dread what it will feel like in the morning. I hope it goes away

> just

> > as fast as it came.

> >

> > Sorry for randomly posting. I just didn't have anywhere else to

> post

> > and needed to talk to people who understand what it's like to

have

> a

> > back problem.

> >

> > Thank you,

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

> > > >

> > > > I was diagnosed with bilateral pars defect a few

> > > > months ago. I did

> > > > physical therapy for 6 weeks which helped. I

> > > stopped

> > > > therapy a few

> > > > weeks ago and did good the first 2 weeks being

> > > > consistent with my

> > > > exercises. Then the holidays came and everything

> > > and

> > > > I've really

> > > > slacked off. The pain started here and there but

> > > not

> > > > severe enough

> > > > that I needed to take my pain killers. Then on

> > > > Saturday I woke up

> > > > with the sillyest sypmtoms. My left big toe was

> > > > numb. It was like

> > > > that all day Saturday and Sunday. It was the

> > > > weirdest thing. Then

> > > > last night I started getting back pain and

> > > > stiffness. I figured once

> > > > I got out of bed and walked it off I would feel

> > > > better. Well that was

> > > > not the case. I slowly got out of bed and tried to

> > > > pick up my 2 year

> > > > old and that almost took me to my knees. I'm only

> > > 24

> > > > years old and I

> > > > feel so horrible when I can't even pick up my

> > > > daughter. The pain

> > > > stayed all day long. By 10am I decided to take a

> > > > pain killer and

> > > > within 1 1/2 hours I needed another. Then by mid

> > > > afternoon another

> > > > and then right now I took another pill. What in

> > > the

> > > > world could cause

> > > > such a sudden onset of pain? I couldn't even give

> > > my

> > > > daugheter a bath

> > > > today and I just wanted to cry. I did manage to

> > > take

> > > > a shower but

> > > > with some pain while bending to wash my legs. My

> > > > boyfriend says it's

> > > > probably because I haven't been doing my exercises

> > > > and I " m sure that

> > > > has something to do with it. I guess I just hate

> > > the

> > > > fact that I am

> > > > only 24 and this is something I'm going to have to

> > > > deal with for the

> > > > rest of my life. I'm literally dreading going to

> > > bed

> > > > right now cause

> > > > I know I'll wake up in a few hours in pain and

> > > with

> > > > stiffness. I

> > >

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[Guest guest]

I have always had uneven hips. My right hip is the one higher and out

of alignment. I used to see a chiro for that but I'm beginning to

wonder if he contributed to my fractures.

So the repositioning exercise is very easy. Since it's my right hip

that gives me the problems I have to lay on my left side with my legs

bent as if I was sitting in a chair. I just push my left knee into

the groud 3 times for 5 seconds each. Then I put my right hand on my

right hip for resistance and push my hip backwards towards my hand. I

do this 3 times for 5 seconds as well. It's amazing because triggers

my muscles to realign my right hip. When I was going to PT the

therapist noticed the problem with my hip is more that it rotates

outward not necessarily upward. I do this at least twice a day and

any time my back starts hurting. It's really helping me out.

As fas as the other exercises. I do one called bridging: laying on

the floor with my legs bent I stabilize my stomach then lift my bumm

off the ground using my stomach and glutes.

Marching: Laying in the same position as bridging I just lift my

right leg then my left leg, alternating, as if your marching. I can

add the arms moving in oppositie directions to make me have to work

on my core a little more.

Clam: This is the same position as the other two. I have a resistence

band that I tie around my legs and have to pull my legs about for a

few seconds.

Those are the 4 main exercises I do. I hope that is what you were

wanting to know.

> > > >

> > > > I was diagnosed with bilateral pars defect a few

> > > > months ago. I did

> > > > physical therapy for 6 weeks which helped. I

> > > stopped

> > > > therapy a few

> > > > weeks ago and did good the first 2 weeks being

> > > > consistent with my

> > > > exercises. Then the holidays came and everything

> > > and

> > > > I've really

> > > > slacked off. The pain started here and there but

> > > not

> > > > severe enough

> > > > that I needed to take my pain killers. Then on

> > > > Saturday I woke up

> > > > with the sillyest sypmtoms. My left big toe was

> > > > numb. It was like

> > > > that all day Saturday and Sunday. It was the

> > > > weirdest thing. Then

> > > > last night I started getting back pain and

> > > > stiffness. I figured once

> > > > I got out of bed and walked it off I would feel

> > > > better. Well that was

> > > > not the case. I slowly got out of bed and tried to

> > > > pick up my 2 year

> > > > old and that almost took me to my knees. I'm only

> > > 24

> > > > years old and I

> > > > feel so horrible when I can't even pick up my

> > > > daughter. The pain

> > > > stayed all day long. By 10am I decided to take a

> > > > pain killer and

> > > > within 1 1/2 hours I needed another. Then by mid

> > > > afternoon another

> > > > and then right now I took another pill. What in

> > > the

> > > > world could cause

> > > > such a sudden onset of pain? I couldn't even give

> > > my

> > > > daugheter a bath

> > > > today and I just wanted to cry. I did manage to

> > > take

> > > > a shower but

> > > > with some pain while bending to wash my legs. My

> > > > boyfriend says it's

> > > > probably because I haven't been doing my exercises

> > > > and I " m sure that

> > > > has something to do with it. I guess I just hate

> > > the

> > > > fact that I am

> > > > only 24 and this is something I'm going to have to

> > > > deal with for the

> > > > rest of my life. I'm literally dreading going to

> > > bed

> > > > right now cause

> > > > I know I'll wake up in a few hours in pain and

> > > with

> > > > stiffness. I

> > >

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[Guest guest]

Do you think I should insist on an MRI?

> > >

> > > ,

> > > I know there are no words to help you to understand what is

> > happening to you. I for one am 51 and in some way or another been

> in

> > pain most all my life, and still can't understand, why me. Only

now

> > after finding a group like this one have I been trying to accept

> what

> > I have to deal with is not just on my shoulders, but on a lot of

> > people that are suffering the same way. It doesn't really help

with

> > the pain truthfully, but for some reason just knowing that others

> > understand fully what I am going through help ease my mind of

this

> > burden.

> > > I hope you can find a way to deal with the pain, and there are

> ways

> > to help you not make matters worst, and still be able to be an

> active

> > part of your families life. Rest assure they will understand one

> day,

> > and know that being a sufferer of chronic pain, you have put all

of

> > you into their lives, you will be rewarded.

> > > I will be praying for you and your family.

> > >

> > > george

> > >

> > > The dog has seldom been successful in pulling man up to its

level

> > of sagacity, but man has frequently dragged the dog down to his.

> > Thurber

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > ________________________________

> > > From: <nessa1880@>

> > > spinal problems

> > > Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2008 2:58:42 AM

> > > Subject: Just need to vent

> > >

> > >

> > > I was diagnosed with bilateral pars defect a few months ago. I

> did

> > > physical therapy for 6 weeks which helped. I stopped therapy a

> few

> > > weeks ago and did good the first 2 weeks being consistent with

my

> > > exercises. Then the holidays came and everything and I've

really

> > > slacked off. The pain started here and there but not severe

> enough

> > > that I needed to take my pain killers. Then on Saturday I woke

up

> > > with the sillyest sypmtoms. My left big toe was numb. It was

like

> > > that all day Saturday and Sunday. It was the weirdest thing.

Then

> > > last night I started getting back pain and stiffness. I figured

> > once

> > > I got out of bed and walked it off I would feel better. Well

that

> > was

> > > not the case. I slowly got out of bed and tried to pick up my 2

> > year

> > > old and that almost took me to my knees. I'm only 24 years old

> and

> > I

> > > feel so horrible when I can't even pick up my daughter. The

pain

> > > stayed all day long. By 10am I decided to take a pain killer

and

> > > within 1 1/2 hours I needed another. Then by mid afternoon

> another

> > > and then right now I took another pill. What in the world could

> > cause

> > > such a sudden onset of pain? I couldn't even give my daugheter

a

> > bath

> > > today and I just wanted to cry. I did manage to take a shower

but

> > > with some pain while bending to wash my legs. My boyfriend says

> > it's

> > > probably because I haven't been doing my exercises and I " m sure

> > that

> > > has something to do with it. I guess I just hate the fact that

I

> am

> > > only 24 and this is something I'm going to have to deal with

for

> > the

> > > rest of my life. I'm literally dreading going to bed right now

> > cause

> > > I know I'll wake up in a few hours in pain and with stiffness.

I

> > > dread what it will feel like in the morning. I hope it goes

away

> > just

> > > as fast as it came.

> > >

> > > Sorry for randomly posting. I just didn't have anywhere else to

> > post

> > > and needed to talk to people who understand what it's like to

> have

> > a

> > > back problem.

> > >

> > > Thank you,

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

[Guest guest]

Thank goodness I have some wonderful supportive friends. When I was so upset by

my ignored email outreach I decided last Saturday to join them all dressed up. I

had my cane and moved slow. I told one person that I was 80 and looked great for

my age (47), and told someone else I messed up my back with a kamma sutra

position! I had to get out and joke about it. I am proud if myself for going

out even thigh I was in pain and moving so slowly. It was better than staying

home and crying about my boyfriend.

Thanks!

Rhonda

On Dec 18, 2008, at 1:10 PM, " " <nessa1880@...> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > I was diagnosed with bilateral pars defect a few

> > > > months ago. I did

> > > > physical therapy for 6 weeks which helped. I

> > > stopped

> > > > therapy a few

> > > > weeks ago and did good the first 2 weeks being

> > > > consistent with my

> > > > exercises. Then the holidays came and everything

> > > and

> > > > I've really

> > > > slacked off. The pain started here and there but

> > > not

> > > > severe enough

> > > > that I needed to take my pain killers. Then on

> > > > Saturday I woke up

> > > > with the sillyest sypmtoms. My left big toe was

> > > > numb. It was like

> > > > that all day Saturday and Sunday. It was the

> > > > weirdest thing. Then

> > > > last night I started getting back pain and

> > > > stiffness. I figured once

> > > > I got out of bed and walked it off I would feel

> > > > better. Well that was

> > > > not the case. I slowly got out of bed and tried to

> > > > pick up my 2 year

> > > > old and that almost took me to my knees. I'm only

> > > 24

> > > > years old and I

> > > > feel so horrible when I can't even pick up my

> > > > daughter. The pain

> > > > stayed all day long. By 10am I decided to take a

> > > > pain killer and

> > > > within 1 1/2 hours I needed another. Then by mid

> > > > afternoon another

> > > > and then right now I took another pill. What in

> > > the

> > > > world could cause

> > > > such a sudden onset of pain? I couldn't even give

> > > my

> > > > daugheter a bath

> > > > today and I just wanted to cry. I did manage to

> > > take

> > > > a shower but

> > > > with some pain while bending to wash my legs. My

> > > > boyfriend says it's

> > > > probably because I haven't been doing my exercises

> > > > and I " m sure that

> > > > has something to do with it. I guess I just hate

> > > the

> > > > fact that I am

> > > > only 24 and this is something I'm going to have to

> > > > deal with for the

> > > > rest of my life. I'm literally dreading going to

> > > bed

> > > > right now cause

> > > > I know I'll wake up in a few hours in pain and

> > > with

> > > > stiffness. I

> > >

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[Guest guest]

Thanks fir all that info. I will show itvto my PT

Because of my recent fusion the bridge is not possible but maybe the others are.

Thanks!

Rhonda

On Dec 18, 2008, at 1:17 PM, " " <nessa1880@...> wrote:

I have always had uneven hips. My right hip is the one higher and out

of alignment. I used to see a chiro for that but I'm beginning to

wonder if he contributed to my fractures.

So the repositioning exercise is very easy. Since it's my right hip

that gives me the problems I have to lay on my left side with my legs

bent as if I was sitting in a chair. I just push my left knee into

the groud 3 times for 5 seconds each. Then I put my right hand on my

right hip for resistance and push my hip backwards towards my hand. I

do this 3 times for 5 seconds as well. It's amazing because triggers

my muscles to realign my right hip. When I was going to PT the

therapist noticed the problem with my hip is more that it rotates

outward not necessarily upward. I do this at least twice a day and

any time my back starts hurting. It's really helping me out.

As fas as the other exercises. I do one called bridging: laying on

the floor with my legs bent I stabilize my stomach then lift my bumm

off the ground using my stomach and glutes.

Marching: Laying in the same position as bridging I just lift my

right leg then my left leg, alternating, as if your marching. I can

add the arms moving in oppositie directions to make me have to work

on my core a little more.

Clam: This is the same position as the other two. I have a resistence

band that I tie around my legs and have to pull my legs about for a

few seconds.

Those are the 4 main exercises I do. I hope that is what you were

wanting to know.

> > > >

> > > > I was diagnosed with bilateral pars defect a few

> > > > months ago. I did

> > > > physical therapy for 6 weeks which helped. I

> > > stopped

> > > > therapy a few

> > > > weeks ago and did good the first 2 weeks being

> > > > consistent with my

> > > > exercises. Then the holidays came and everything

> > > and

> > > > I've really

> > > > slacked off. The pain started here and there but

> > > not

> > > > severe enough

> > > > that I needed to take my pain killers. Then on

> > > > Saturday I woke up

> > > > with the sillyest sypmtoms. My left big toe was

> > > > numb. It was like

> > > > that all day Saturday and Sunday. It was the

> > > > weirdest thing. Then

> > > > last night I started getting back pain and

> > > > stiffness. I figured once

> > > > I got out of bed and walked it off I would feel

> > > > better. Well that was

> > > > not the case. I slowly got out of bed and tried to

> > > > pick up my 2 year

> > > > old and that almost took me to my knees. I'm only

> > > 24

> > > > years old and I

> > > > feel so horrible when I can't even pick up my

> > > > daughter. The pain

> > > > stayed all day long. By 10am I decided to take a

> > > > pain killer and

> > > > within 1 1/2 hours I needed another. Then by mid

> > > > afternoon another

> > > > and then right now I took another pill. What in

> > > the

> > > > world could cause

> > > > such a sudden onset of pain? I couldn't even give

> > > my

> > > > daugheter a bath

> > > > today and I just wanted to cry. I did manage to

> > > take

> > > > a shower but

> > > > with some pain while bending to wash my legs. My

> > > > boyfriend says it's

> > > > probably because I haven't been doing my exercises

> > > > and I " m sure that

> > > > has something to do with it. I guess I just hate

> > > the

> > > > fact that I am

> > > > only 24 and this is something I'm going to have to

> > > > deal with for the

> > > > rest of my life. I'm literally dreading going to

> > > bed

> > > > right now cause

> > > > I know I'll wake up in a few hours in pain and

> > > with

> > > > stiffness. I

> > >

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[Guest guest]

keep up that sense of humor! Your not alone.

Re: Just need to vent

Thank goodness I have some wonderful supportive friends. When I was so upset by

my ignored email outreach I decided last Saturday to join them all dressed up. I

had my cane and moved slow. I told one person that I was 80 and looked great for

my age (47), and told someone else I messed up my back with a kamma sutra

position! I had to get out and joke about it. I am proud if myself for going out

even thigh I was in pain and moving so slowly. It was better than staying home

and crying about my boyfriend.

Thanks!

Rhonda

On Dec 18, 2008, at 1:10 PM, " " <nessa1880@...> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > I was diagnosed with bilateral pars defect a few

> > > > months ago. I did

> > > > physical therapy for 6 weeks which helped. I

> > > stopped

> > > > therapy a few

> > > > weeks ago and did good the first 2 weeks being

> > > > consistent with my

> > > > exercises. Then the holidays came and everything

> > > and

> > > > I've really

> > > > slacked off. The pain started here and there but

> > > not

> > > > severe enough

> > > > that I needed to take my pain killers. Then on

> > > > Saturday I woke up

> > > > with the sillyest sypmtoms. My left big toe was

> > > > numb. It was like

> > > > that all day Saturday and Sunday. It was the

> > > > weirdest thing. Then

> > > > last night I started getting back pain and

> > > > stiffness. I figured once

> > > > I got out of bed and walked it off I would feel

> > > > better. Well that was

> > > > not the case. I slowly got out of bed and tried to

> > > > pick up my 2 year

> > > > old and that almost took me to my knees. I'm only

> > > 24

> > > > years old and I

> > > > feel so horrible when I can't even pick up my

> > > > daughter. The pain

> > > > stayed all day long. By 10am I decided to take a

> > > > pain killer and

> > > > within 1 1/2 hours I needed another. Then by mid

> > > > afternoon another

> > > > and then right now I took another pill. What in

> > > the

> > > > world could cause

> > > > such a sudden onset of pain? I couldn't even give

> > > my

> > > > daugheter a bath

> > > > today and I just wanted to cry. I did manage to

> > > take

> > > > a shower but

> > > > with some pain while bending to wash my legs. My

> > > > boyfriend says it's

> > > > probably because I haven't been doing my exercises

> > > > and I " m sure that

> > > > has something to do with it. I guess I just hate

> > > the

> > > > fact that I am

> > > > only 24 and this is something I'm going to have to

> > > > deal with for the

> > > > rest of my life. I'm literally dreading going to

> > > bed

> > > > right now cause

> > > > I know I'll wake up in a few hours in pain and

> > > with

> > > > stiffness. I

> > >

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[Guest guest]

Yes I do because it will show the soft tissue where the x-ray won't. Make sure

you get your doctor to precert it for your insurance. Humana told me I didn't

need a precert but thank god my doctor did one anyway cuz insurance tried to

penalize me but I had acongirmation number proofing the precert. Otherwise I

would have had to pay a 50% penalty which was $500!

Thanks!

Rhonda

On Dec 18, 2008, at 1:18 PM, " " <nessa1880@...> wrote:

Do you think I should insist on an MRI?

> > >

> > > ,

> > > I know there are no words to help you to understand what is

> > happening to you. I for one am 51 and in some way or another been

> in

> > pain most all my life, and still can't understand, why me. Only

now

> > after finding a group like this one have I been trying to accept

> what

> > I have to deal with is not just on my shoulders, but on a lot of

> > people that are suffering the same way. It doesn't really help

with

> > the pain truthfully, but for some reason just knowing that others

> > understand fully what I am going through help ease my mind of

this

> > burden.

> > > I hope you can find a way to deal with the pain, and there are

> ways

> > to help you not make matters worst, and still be able to be an

> active

> > part of your families life. Rest assure they will understand one

> day,

> > and know that being a sufferer of chronic pain, you have put all

of

> > you into their lives, you will be rewarded.

> > > I will be praying for you and your family.

> > >

> > > george

> > >

> > > The dog has seldom been successful in pulling man up to its

level

> > of sagacity, but man has frequently dragged the dog down to his.

> > Thurber

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > ________________________________

> > > From: <nessa1880@>

> > > spinal problems

> > > Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2008 2:58:42 AM

> > > Subject: Just need to vent

> > >

> > >

> > > I was diagnosed with bilateral pars defect a few months ago. I

> did

> > > physical therapy for 6 weeks which helped. I stopped therapy a

> few

> > > weeks ago and did good the first 2 weeks being consistent with

my

> > > exercises. Then the holidays came and everything and I've

really

> > > slacked off. The pain started here and there but not severe

> enough

> > > that I needed to take my pain killers. Then on Saturday I woke

up

> > > with the sillyest sypmtoms. My left big toe was numb. It was

like

> > > that all day Saturday and Sunday. It was the weirdest thing.

Then

> > > last night I started getting back pain and stiffness. I figured

> > once

> > > I got out of bed and walked it off I would feel better. Well

that

> > was

> > > not the case. I slowly got out of bed and tried to pick up my 2

> > year

> > > old and that almost took me to my knees. I'm only 24 years old

> and

> > I

> > > feel so horrible when I can't even pick up my daughter. The

pain

> > > stayed all day long. By 10am I decided to take a pain killer

and

> > > within 1 1/2 hours I needed another. Then by mid afternoon

> another

> > > and then right now I took another pill. What in the world could

> > cause

> > > such a sudden onset of pain? I couldn't even give my daugheter

a

> > bath

> > > today and I just wanted to cry. I did manage to take a shower

but

> > > with some pain while bending to wash my legs. My boyfriend says

> > it's

> > > probably because I haven't been doing my exercises and I " m sure

> > that

> > > has something to do with it. I guess I just hate the fact that

I

> am

> > > only 24 and this is something I'm going to have to deal with

for

> > the

> > > rest of my life. I'm literally dreading going to bed right now

> > cause

> > > I know I'll wake up in a few hours in pain and with stiffness.

I

> > > dread what it will feel like in the morning. I hope it goes

away

> > just

> > > as fast as it came.

> > >

> > > Sorry for randomly posting. I just didn't have anywhere else to

> > post

> > > and needed to talk to people who understand what it's like to

> have

> > a

> > > back problem.

> > >

> > > Thank you,

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

[Guest guest]

You are so cute Rhonda! I'm so proud of you for going out and having

a good time.

> > > > >

> > > > > I was diagnosed with bilateral pars defect a few

> > > > > months ago. I did

> > > > > physical therapy for 6 weeks which helped. I

> > > > stopped

> > > > > therapy a few

> > > > > weeks ago and did good the first 2 weeks being

> > > > > consistent with my

> > > > > exercises. Then the holidays came and everything

> > > > and

> > > > > I've really

> > > > > slacked off. The pain started here and there but

> > > > not

> > > > > severe enough

> > > > > that I needed to take my pain killers. Then on

> > > > > Saturday I woke up

> > > > > with the sillyest sypmtoms. My left big toe was

> > > > > numb. It was like

> > > > > that all day Saturday and Sunday. It was the

> > > > > weirdest thing. Then

> > > > > last night I started getting back pain and

> > > > > stiffness. I figured once

> > > > > I got out of bed and walked it off I would feel

> > > > > better. Well that was

> > > > > not the case. I slowly got out of bed and tried to

> > > > > pick up my 2 year

> > > > > old and that almost took me to my knees. I'm only

> > > > 24

> > > > > years old and I

> > > > > feel so horrible when I can't even pick up my

> > > > > daughter. The pain

> > > > > stayed all day long. By 10am I decided to take a

> > > > > pain killer and

> > > > > within 1 1/2 hours I needed another. Then by mid

> > > > > afternoon another

> > > > > and then right now I took another pill. What in

> > > > the

> > > > > world could cause

> > > > > such a sudden onset of pain? I couldn't even give

> > > > my

> > > > > daugheter a bath

> > > > > today and I just wanted to cry. I did manage to

> > > > take

> > > > > a shower but

> > > > > with some pain while bending to wash my legs. My

> > > > > boyfriend says it's

> > > > > probably because I haven't been doing my exercises

> > > > > and I " m sure that

> > > > > has something to do with it. I guess I just hate

> > > > the

> > > > > fact that I am

> > > > > only 24 and this is something I'm going to have to

> > > > > deal with for the

> > > > > rest of my life. I'm literally dreading going to

> > > > bed

> > > > > right now cause

> > > > > I know I'll wake up in a few hours in pain and

> > > > with

> > > > > stiffness. I

> > > >

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[Guest guest]

i am proud too Rhonda. Life is too short to waste even a single moment. I tell

folks some days are diamonds and some days I am learning to polish rocks.

God bless you this Christmas season!

Lexie

[Guest guest]

I even had my friend tale my picture with my phone and uploaded it toy my

facebook page to remind me of my inner strength.

Thanks!

Rhonda

On Dec 18, 2008, at 11:30 PM, " " <nessa1880@...> wrote:

You are so cute Rhonda! I'm so proud of you for going out and having

a good time.

> > > > >

> > > > > I was diagnosed with bilateral pars defect a few

> > > > > months ago. I did

> > > > > physical therapy for 6 weeks which helped. I

> > > > stopped

> > > > > therapy a few

> > > > > weeks ago and did good the first 2 weeks being

> > > > > consistent with my

> > > > > exercises. Then the holidays came and everything

> > > > and

> > > > > I've really

> > > > > slacked off. The pain started here and there but

> > > > not

> > > > > severe enough

> > > > > that I needed to take my pain killers. Then on

> > > > > Saturday I woke up

> > > > > with the sillyest sypmtoms. My left big toe was

> > > > > numb. It was like

> > > > > that all day Saturday and Sunday. It was the

> > > > > weirdest thing. Then

> > > > > last night I started getting back pain and

> > > > > stiffness. I figured once

> > > > > I got out of bed and walked it off I would feel

> > > > > better. Well that was

> > > > > not the case. I slowly got out of bed and tried to

> > > > > pick up my 2 year

> > > > > old and that almost took me to my knees. I'm only

> > > > 24

> > > > > years old and I

> > > > > feel so horrible when I can't even pick up my

> > > > > daughter. The pain

> > > > > stayed all day long. By 10am I decided to take a

> > > > > pain killer and

> > > > > within 1 1/2 hours I needed another. Then by mid

> > > > > afternoon another

> > > > > and then right now I took another pill. What in

> > > > the

> > > > > world could cause

> > > > > such a sudden onset of pain? I couldn't even give

> > > > my

> > > > > daugheter a bath

> > > > > today and I just wanted to cry. I did manage to

> > > > take

> > > > > a shower but

> > > > > with some pain while bending to wash my legs. My

> > > > > boyfriend says it's

> > > > > probably because I haven't been doing my exercises

> > > > > and I " m sure that

> > > > > has something to do with it. I guess I just hate

> > > > the

> > > > > fact that I am

> > > > > only 24 and this is something I'm going to have to

> > > > > deal with for the

> > > > > rest of my life. I'm literally dreading going to

> > > > bed

> > > > > right now cause

> > > > > I know I'll wake up in a few hours in pain and

> > > > with

> > > > > stiffness. I

> > > >

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[Guest guest]

You are all the best!

Thanks!

Rhonda

On Dec 18, 2008, at 11:55 PM, " Lexie " <lexie@...> wrote:

i am proud too Rhonda. Life is too short to waste even a single moment. I tell

folks some days are diamonds and some days I am learning to polish rocks.

God bless you this Christmas season!

Lexie

[Guest guest]

I agree with you , I was talking to my mother today about this economy..

Our biggest agreement is what women are having to face today. She has seen more

and more women having severe spinal problems due to the fact of more women

having to enter the hard labor working environment. Agree with me or not, but I

have witnessed it in my life time. Women are not built to handle heavy manual

labor. This in fact happened to my mother and it just broke her down really

fast. My neuro states that the spine is the worst mechanism in the human body,

its not made to carry heavy loads. I really feel for the working woman doing

manual labor, it is horrifying what it is doing to the young women these days.

Sorry I don't mean to start a big controversy about this, but if you stop and

count the number of women in all these groups that are seriously injured, you

will see what I mean.

 

george

 

The dog has seldom been successful in pulling man up to its level of sagacity,

but man has frequently dragged the dog down to his. Thurber

________________________________

From: <wendy.tom@...>

spinal problems@...

Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2008 7:28:28 AM

Subject: Re: Just need to vent

Hi

its too bad that alot of the old folks from the Great Depression arent around

much anymore, I sure learned alot from my Grandparents, had a hard time

understanding their extreme thriftiness and that they never went anywhere and

saved everything, but they were so resielent in the face of adversity, what they

went through growing up made them so tough!

I think todays young folks are in for a very rude awakening the way this economy

is going, its not going to right itself overnite.

You and I and others know there is a lot that isnt fair in life, God, working in

the medical profession you sure see that.

None of us asked for our spinal dissabilites, but we gottem and we have to

struggle to keep on living, raise a family, be there for others, keep a job,

take care of a household and deal with terrible pain at times.

Yes life isnt fair, boy thats a tough one to learn isnt it.... back in the old

days they knew that one as young people, now people are having to learn at older

ages, but they still have to learn.

I guess thats why people used to respect the old folks and all their cumulative

wisdom they had to share.....

I digress too.... your husband will eventually come to terms, its hard at his

age, I think I was beginning to learn that than too, 27 I was just going to

nursing school. Boy that was the eye opener.....

anyway- hang in there with him...

Re: Just need to vent

Hey Shayna,

Thanks for the support. My husband is 4 years younger

thanme...and I always dated older guys! I hope he

grows up soon. And trust me...I have reminded him of

the vows and I HAVE had to take care of him. Earlier

this year he had a rotator cuff repair and I took

darned good care of him and he knows it. I tell him

right out when he's being as ass.

I have also described me medical condition in full to

him in ways he can understand, but he's actually said

he's thought I might be faking it or pretending I'm

worse than I am. He can be a real dick sometimes...

I know he's just so overwhelmed though. He's a good

person, but choosing to be a jerk. He's 27 years old,

24 when we met and he became an instant step-dad to

three kids at 25 years old. Their dad has not paid for

anything and no child support as of yet. He has had to

be sole provider for a family of five...which he says

he " didn't sign up for " . I have to remind him that

life isn't fair. It's not fair that I have this

chronic and disabling problem. It's not fair that my

kids' dad abused me and I had to get a divorce.

There's a lot that isn't fair and it could certainly

be worse! He didn't sign up for a lot of things, but

like you said...he did vow. It's just sad that these

days the younger generations in particular view

marriage as disposable and vows are nothing more than

ceremonial words.

---

--- Shayna <shaynal2003> wrote:

> I am so sorry. That is terrible. He should be

> helpful and not be such a complete * & ^^head.

> You might remind him sometime, that your wedding

> vows specifically stated for better or for worse and

> in sickness and in health.

> He took those vows and should take them seriously.

> What if the tables were turned and he was the one in

> pain?

> I count myself very very lucky. My boyfriend of four

> years is very supportive. I tries to understand what

> I am feeling and asks questions and even has talked

> to his own physician to try to either find out about

> my illnesses or to see if he can find help.

> With his faults, as we all have, I must say I am

> completely lucky.

> Just a side note, I don't know if we have discussed

> this before, but I am on 33.

> So, I hear you sister.

> My boyfriend is 43. Maybe that is the difference, he

> is older and possibly more mature.

> I don't know what it is, but I am lucky.

> I moved in with him in Feb. 08 and had my first

> surgery April 08 and my second May 08.

> He has been supportive and helpful thru it all. I

> can't say he doesn't get frustrated or worried, but

> he would never tell me to go take another pill or be

> openly disgruntled in front of me. If he does feel

> anything, it is money worries...so that he can take

> care of us both.

> Your husband is wrong for treating you that way. You

> should try talking to him about it, if you haven't

> already and make him hear you.

> Explain what you feel and how it limits you. Almost

> like you would a doctor.

> And tell him you need his support. While you

> understand that this may not be what he signed on

> for, it is what he vowed.

> And remind him you didn't sign on for this either,

> but you are stuck with it and have to make the best

> out of it. Remind him you didn't ask for this!!!

> Feel free to vent to me anytime . On or Off

> blog.

> Good luck. Best health and pain free days!

> Shayna

>

>

>

>

>

> It is better to be hated for who you are than liked

> for who you aren't.

>

>

> >

> > I was diagnosed with bilateral pars defect a few

> > months ago. I did

> > physical therapy for 6 weeks which helped. I

> stopped

> > therapy a few

> > weeks ago and did good the first 2 weeks being

> > consistent with my

> > exercises. Then the holidays came and everything

> and

> > I've really

>

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[Guest guest]

,

Wow, I have often wondered about how the work I did and if it has

effected my body... I used to carry 28ft. ladders on a daily basis,

and sometimes, up and down blocks, and getting them over fences when

I had to, then the man hole covers, those things are so heavy too,

just all the heavy things I worked with on a daily basis.... makes me

wonder how much of this " other " stuff I suffer from is because of

that. Now a days when I see younger people lifting things wrong that

are very heavy, etc. And I tell them they really should lift them

properly, but they are young and think they are invincable and

say " naw, it isn't going to hurt me,I " m strong " Well, now I tell

them, Well you know what? steel is stronger than bones and it wears

down..... Gets them to thinking.

> > >

> > > I was diagnosed with bilateral pars defect a few

> > > months ago. I did

> > > physical therapy for 6 weeks which helped. I

> > stopped

> > > therapy a few

> > > weeks ago and did good the first 2 weeks being

> > > consistent with my

> > > exercises. Then the holidays came and everything

> > and

> > > I've really

> >

> === message truncated ===

>

>

[Guest guest]

On a similar subject. My 17 year old daughter is one of those soprr achievher

kids. Her back pack must weigh more than she does as she us quite short and

slender. Her. BAck is Always aching. She carries many huge textbooks in it and

even has to hand carry some also. I've talked my son into using a rolling

backpack which helps somewhat but she says she doesn't want to look like a nerd.

My son says everyone thinks he's a nerd anyway so he may as well be a

comfortable nerd. After readings all these posts and going through this fusion I

pleaded with her yesterday to at least adjust the straps correctly as instructed

by my PT. It's a shame the way the schools force the kids to carrry so many

heavy books daily. Both my Kidd have a slight case of scoliosis also. Nothing

nearly as severe as mine.

Thanks!

Rhonda

On Dec 19, 2008, at 1:19 AM, Lambert <glambert28@...> wrote:

I agree with you , I was talking to my mother today about this economy..

Our biggest agreement is what women are having to face today. She has seen more

and more women having severe spinal problems due to the fact of more women

having to enter the hard labor working environment. Agree with me or not, but I

have witnessed it in my life time. Women are not built to handle heavy manual

labor. This in fact happened to my mother and it just broke her down really

fast. My neuro states that the spine is the worst mechanism in the human body,

its not made to carry heavy loads. I really feel for the working woman doing

manual labor, it is horrifying what it is doing to the young women these days.

Sorry I don't mean to start a big controversy about this, but if you stop and

count the number of women in all these groups that are seriously injured, you

will see what I mean.

george

The dog has seldom been successful in pulling man up to its level of sagacity,

but man has frequently dragged the dog down to his. Thurber

________________________________

From: <wendy.tom@...>

spinal problems@...

Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2008 7:28:28 AM

Subject: Re: Just need to vent

Hi

its too bad that alot of the old folks from the Great Depression arent around

much anymore, I sure learned alot from my Grandparents, had a hard time

understanding their extreme thriftiness and that they never went anywhere and

saved everything, but they were so resielent in the face of adversity, what they

went through growing up made them so tough!

I think todays young folks are in for a very rude awakening the way this economy

is going, its not going to right itself overnite.

You and I and others know there is a lot that isnt fair in life, God, working in

the medical profession you sure see that.

None of us asked for our spinal dissabilites, but we gottem and we have to

struggle to keep on living, raise a family, be there for others, keep a job,

take care of a household and deal with terrible pain at times.

Yes life isnt fair, boy thats a tough one to learn isnt it.... back in the old

days they knew that one as young people, now people are having to learn at older

ages, but they still have to learn.

I guess thats why people used to respect the old folks and all their cumulative

wisdom they had to share.....

I digress too.... your husband will eventually come to terms, its hard at his

age, I think I was beginning to learn that than too, 27 I was just going to

nursing school. Boy that was the eye opener.....

anyway- hang in there with him...

Re: Just need to vent

Hey Shayna,

Thanks for the support. My husband is 4 years younger

thanme...and I always dated older guys! I hope he

grows up soon. And trust me...I have reminded him of

the vows and I HAVE had to take care of him. Earlier

this year he had a rotator cuff repair and I took

darned good care of him and he knows it. I tell him

right out when he's being as ass.

I have also described me medical condition in full to

him in ways he can understand, but he's actually said

he's thought I might be faking it or pretending I'm

worse than I am. He can be a real dick sometimes...

I know he's just so overwhelmed though. He's a good

person, but choosing to be a jerk. He's 27 years old,

24 when we met and he became an instant step-dad to

three kids at 25 years old. Their dad has not paid for

anything and no child support as of yet. He has had to

be sole provider for a family of five...which he says

he " didn't sign up for " . I have to remind him that

life isn't fair. It's not fair that I have this

chronic and disabling problem. It's not fair that my

kids' dad abused me and I had to get a divorce.

There's a lot that isn't fair and it could certainly

be worse! He didn't sign up for a lot of things, but

like you said...he did vow. It's just sad that these

days the younger generations in particular view

marriage as disposable and vows are nothing more than

ceremonial words.

---

--- Shayna <shaynal2003> wrote:

> I am so sorry. That is terrible. He should be

> helpful and not be such a complete * & ^^head.

> You might remind him sometime, that your wedding

> vows specifically stated for better or for worse and

> in sickness and in health.

> He took those vows and should take them seriously.

> What if the tables were turned and he was the one in

> pain?

> I count myself very very lucky. My boyfriend of four

> years is very supportive. I tries to understand what

> I am feeling and asks questions and even has talked

> to his own physician to try to either find out about

> my illnesses or to see if he can find help.

> With his faults, as we all have, I must say I am

> completely lucky.

> Just a side note, I don't know if we have discussed

> this before, but I am on 33.

> So, I hear you sister.

> My boyfriend is 43. Maybe that is the difference, he

> is older and possibly more mature.

> I don't know what it is, but I am lucky.

> I moved in with him in Feb. 08 and had my first

> surgery April 08 and my second May 08.

> He has been supportive and helpful thru it all. I

> can't say he doesn't get frustrated or worried, but

> he would never tell me to go take another pill or be

> openly disgruntled in front of me. If he does feel

> anything, it is money worries...so that he can take

> care of us both.

> Your husband is wrong for treating you that way. You

> should try talking to him about it, if you haven't

> already and make him hear you.

> Explain what you feel and how it limits you. Almost

> like you would a doctor.

> And tell him you need his support. While you

> understand that this may not be what he signed on

> for, it is what he vowed.

> And remind him you didn't sign on for this either,

> but you are stuck with it and have to make the best

> out of it. Remind him you didn't ask for this!!!

> Feel free to vent to me anytime . On or Off

> blog.

> Good luck. Best health and pain free days!

> Shayna

>

>

>

>

>

> It is better to be hated for who you are than liked

> for who you aren't.

>

>

> >

> > I was diagnosed with bilateral pars defect a few

> > months ago. I did

> > physical therapy for 6 weeks which helped. I

> stopped

> > therapy a few

> > weeks ago and did good the first 2 weeks being

> > consistent with my

> > exercises. Then the holidays came and everything

> and

> > I've really

>

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[Guest guest]

I never really thought of it, but your right. I have never done

manual labot but a few years ago I worked at a veterinarian hospital

and had to put up a 40# bag of dog food. Well I lifted the wrong way

and messed up my back. I was in the worst pain of my life and had to

take a few days off. I'm beginning to wonder if that is when I

fractured my spine...makes sense to me.

> > > >

> > > > I was diagnosed with bilateral pars defect a few

> > > > months ago. I did

> > > > physical therapy for 6 weeks which helped. I

> > > stopped

> > > > therapy a few

> > > > weeks ago and did good the first 2 weeks being

> > > > consistent with my

> > > > exercises. Then the holidays came and everything

> > > and

> > > > I've really

> > >

> > === message truncated ===

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Rhonda,

Tell your son he may look like a nerd (in his eyes) but he won't be

the one with a bad back when he's older. YOu know my daughter, 2

years old, was born with congenital scoliosis. She is less than 10

degrees at this point but by the time she goes to school I might try

and convince her to use the rolling backpack. If she starts with it

young she will thinks its normal to have. Thanks for the heads up.

> > >

> > > I was diagnosed with bilateral pars defect a few

> > > months ago. I did

> > > physical therapy for 6 weeks which helped. I

> > stopped

> > > therapy a few

> > > weeks ago and did good the first 2 weeks being

> > > consistent with my

> > > exercises. Then the holidays came and everything

> > and

> > > I've really

> >

> === message truncated ===

>

>

[Guest guest]

I know what you mean..I am sending you a big hug! here for you...

diane in ohio

________________________________

From: tcompare <tcompare@...>

Sent: Monday, May 11, 2009 9:43:18 AM

Subject: [ ] just need to vent

Ok So I am ready to be done with RA now. I am so tired for the last week and I

just really want it to go away now! I am hurting all over and now a new joint is

flaring...my left hip. I am dreading where this is heading as I know once a

joint starts to hurt it only gets worse before it levels off to a constant ache

and then the joint is always sore. I was so worried about my larger joints being

affected and now I am in the midst of it. I just really want to be normal again.

I just need to vent today as I am tired and sore and fed up!

I take my meds regularly, I try to eat healthy and I try to get lots of rest but

sometimes it doesn't matter how much rest you get there is no helping this

crappy fatigue!

So with that said I am wishing everyone else a pain free day!

[Guest guest]

Thanks it is really nice to know there are people who understand. My Husband

just thinks go have a nap and why are you still tired. You really cannot

understand this fatigue until you live it!!!

>

> I know what you mean..I am sending you a big hug! here for you...

>

> diane in ohio

>

>

>

>

> ________________________________

> From: tcompare <tcompare@...>

>

> Sent: Monday, May 11, 2009 9:43:18 AM

> Subject: [ ] just need to vent

>

>

>

>

>

> Ok So I am ready to be done with RA now. I am so tired for the last week and I

just really want it to go away now! I am hurting all over and now a new joint is

flaring...my left hip. I am dreading where this is heading as I know once a

joint starts to hurt it only gets worse before it levels off to a constant ache

and then the joint is always sore. I was so worried about my larger joints being

affected and now I am in the midst of it. I just really want to be normal again.

I just need to vent today as I am tired and sore and fed up!

>

> I take my meds regularly, I try to eat healthy and I try to get lots of rest

but sometimes it doesn't matter how much rest you get there is no helping this

crappy fatigue!

>

> So with that said I am wishing everyone else a pain free day!

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Can I just say your not alone. I waive the white flag also!! I have wasted to

many days on this, " Resting " . I want to live again. My daughter and I are at

the mercy of this disease and have been for to many years.

[ ] just need to vent

Ok So I am ready to be done with RA now. I am so tired for the last week and I

just really want it to go away now! I am hurting all over and now a new joint is

flaring...my left hip. I am dreading where this is heading as I know once a

joint starts to hurt it only gets worse before it levels off to a constant ache

and then the joint is always sore. I was so worried about my larger joints being

affected and now I am in the midst of it. I just really want to be normal again.

I just need to vent today as I am tired and sore and fed up!

I take my meds regularly, I try to eat healthy and I try to get lots of rest

but sometimes it doesn't matter how much rest you get there is no helping this

crappy fatigue!

So with that said I am wishing everyone else a pain free day!

Messages in th

[The entire original message is not included]

[Guest guest]

Yeah, I agree with you, no one tells you what it's really going to be like. I've

done all the things you have done which results in being able to cope, I guess.

But I don't remember exactly what it's like to be normal any more because there

is always the fatigue and usually something somewhere aches. If someone told me

I was completely RA free it'd probably take me a year to believe them!

Stan,

Seattle, Rainy.

[ ] just need to vent

Ok So I am ready to be done with RA now.  I am so tired for the last week and I

just really want it to go away now!  I am hurting all over and now a new joint

is flaring...my left hip.  I am dreading where this is heading as I know once a

joint starts to hurt it only gets worse before it levels off to a constant ache

and then the joint is always sore.  I was so worried about my larger joints

being affected and now I am in the midst of it.  I just really want to be

normal again.  I just need to vent today as I am tired and sore and fed up!

I take my meds regularly, I try to eat healthy and I try to get lots of rest but

sometimes it doesn't matter how much rest you get there is no helping this

crappy fatigue!

So with that said I am wishing everyone else a pain free day!

[Guest guest]

, my sock monkey, thinks the same thing, just take a nap, everything will

be alright. I don't like having to rest all the time, it wasn't my style. Now we

don't have a choice.

Stan

Seattle, Rainy

[ ] Re: just need to vent

Thanks it is really nice to know there are people who understand.  My Husband

just thinks go have a nap and why are you still tired.  You really cannot

understand this fatigue until you live it!!!

[Guest guest]

My girlfriend tell me to get use to it this is your life now. I don't want to!

Stan

Seattle, Rainy.

RE: [ ] just need to vent

Can I just say your not alone.  I waive the white flag also!!  I have wasted

to many days on this, " Resting " .  I want to live again.  My daughter and I

are at the mercy of this disease and have been for to many years.