Guest guest Posted September 6, 2007 Report Share Posted September 6, 2007 My Broda books doesn't recommend margerine - he talks about how good butter is. ????? However, 40 years ago everyone said margerine was better. I've done every other low carb diet too. I never said Rosedale is Atkins, I said it was like every other low carb book out there - probably most similar to Dr. Oz's. Yes, yes - ORGANIC is better as even Val talks about being able to go off progesterone once she switched to organic foods. I wish there were more organic restaurants as going out is a big deal for me. I could give you a handful of links discounting your views on saturated fats, but that's why this world is a democracy. All that matters is what works for you in the long haul. SAMMIE > > > > > > I don't like saturated fats so I am going to try the Rosedal diet > > first. How long were you on his diet and were you strict with it? > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 6, 2007 Report Share Posted September 6, 2007 So, when you were doing high protein you were on even less T3 meds than when you did the high fat diet? What were your symptoms? Maybe I'll wait until I switch over to just T3 meds before starting the diet full-time. I have a lot of weight to lose though, so maybe you and I are different in that regard. SAMMIE > > > > This low carb diet is the only diet I have ever lost weight on. > If you stick to it and don't cheat at all, the weight usually melts > right off and pretty fast too. > > > > As far as I am concerned, we are a carb laden society and I think > the carbs are responsible for most of the obesity in this country. > > > > The other thing I like about this way of eating is that you can > eat as much as you want and never have to deprive yourself. The > first time I did this diet I lost 40 lbs. in 2 months. > > > > I eat the following unlimited: > > > > Fish > > Chicken > > Beef > > Turkey > > Pork (But I don't like pork) > > Eggs > > Cheese (I limit cheese to goat cheese) > > but a couple of slices or cubes each day of any cheese is fine > > > > Fats unlimited: > > > > Mayo (I buy it from the health food store) > > olive oil > > Butter > > > > All low starch veggies > > > > Nuts (for snacks) but you must limit these due to carb content. > Peanuts and macadamias, walnuts, almonds, cashews. > > > > I eat no fruit > > no sugar or foods that contain sugar > > I use sweet and low in coffee but you can use stevia if you like > > Aspartame is very BAD for us > > > > Some people can eat a bit of whole grain each day, e.g. 1 slice > whole grain bread > > or 1 small cup whole grain cereal. > > > > Cream is better than milk on this diet because it's lower in > carbs. I use half and half. > > > > When I get hungry and want to snack at night, I eat a bowl of > chicken salad, egg salad, tuna salad, etc. with chopped celery and > onions and I have some tomato or pickles with it. > > > > During the day for snacks, I grab cheese, nuts, carrots, celery, > etc. > > > > Turkey slices are a good snack. > > > > Chicken drumsticks are a good snack. > > > > Watch out for coatings of white flour. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 6, 2007 Report Share Posted September 6, 2007 I had the same constipation problem on Atkins. I think I went well over a week and was worried. Benefiber is a good fiber supplement, and my holistic doc recommended it. The powder form is odorless/tasteless etc. The headaches from carb withdrawl was brutal too. I think that can often be a candida symptom. Good thing about the Broda diet is that you don't go into ketosis and you are to eat 50grams of carbs at least. That might help as it's more than the recommended 20 grams Atkins recommends. I do think it's better for some to slowly cut back on carbs instead of going cold-turkey overnight. Ugh. I'm not looking forward to that. SAMMIE > > What do you do for constipatio? I only lasted 9 days on Atkins. I thought I would explode and the headache was terrible. I must confess I don't like red meat and I guess I would eat just chicken and fish. I do eat grains and I guess that is bad for us for losing weitht. I try to stay away from the carbs as much as I can. > > I just bought another book on low carb and is better than Atkins so maybe I can do that one. I just this illness. I have had to give up so much since I got it. > > > > Bertha > > > --------------------------------- > Choose the right car based on your needs. Check out Yahoo! Autos new Car Finder tool. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 6, 2007 Report Share Posted September 6, 2007 Pastuerized, homogonized milk IS full of hormones and not so good stuff and has been altered. If you can get RAW milk from a reputable source, such as a certified farm, then it is great stuff - full of enzymes and good bacteria, and the lactose hasn't been altered during processing, so it isn't a problem. The farmers market in our park has a family that sell organics and the mom was telling me that her daughter couldn't drink milk at all. Then her husband bought her a cow and they milk it and refrigerate it and her daughter can drink it with no problems, although she still can't drink milk from the grocery store. C. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 6, 2007 Report Share Posted September 6, 2007 Is this an old book? Where do I find it? Amazon or what? Was it back in the 70's? Thanks, Tammy --------------------------------- Building a website is a piece of cake. Yahoo! Small Business gives you all the tools to get online. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 6, 2007 Report Share Posted September 6, 2007 I would disagree with this. Good healthy forms of saturated fats such as coconut oil do not increase insulin resistance. The proper kind of saturated fat is vital to the functioning of your body, hormones, etc. My daughter is a Type 1 diabetic and we do not skimp on good saturated fats for her. She eats bacon, but organic without nitrates. Here are two excellent links regarading fats by a couple of the most expert leading authorities on fats you could hope to find. The first one has references to the studies used for the insulin resistance articles. http://www.westonaprice.org/knowyourfats/type-2-diabetes.html Many excellent articles on fat here: http://www.westonaprice.org/knowyourfats/index.html Linn > > > > > > I don't like saturated fats so I am going to try the Rosedal diet > > first. How long were you on his diet and were you strict with it? > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 6, 2007 Report Share Posted September 6, 2007 1976 Hypothyroidism: The Unsuspected Illness by Broda http://www.amazon.com/Hypothyroidism-Unsuspected-Illness-Broda-/dp/ 069001029X/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1/104-9312130-4932709? ie=UTF8 & s=books & qid=1189138570 & sr=8-1 > > Is this an old book? Where do I find it? Amazon or what? Was it back in the 70's? > > Thanks, > > Tammy > > > --------------------------------- > Building a website is a piece of cake. > Yahoo! Small Business gives you all the tools to get online. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 7, 2007 Report Share Posted September 7, 2007 I buy organic, free-range food, so it is possible to get bacon without nitrites. I also buy organic, free-range milk and cheese, and have it shipped to me from California, so I think it is clean. Granted, it is much harder to try to get " clean " animal food -- or produce for that matter, but I think it is worth it if you can. I don't think they knew margarine was bad for you back then, although given his recs, you think he would have suggested plain butter anyway. Have you ever read the Schwarzbein principle? It makes sense, but I just gain weight if I eat all that fat. Believe me, I do not get satieted with fat like so many books claim will happen. I could easily eat 3 blocks a day plus all the protein!! I am afraid of fat, though. I eat fat every day, just no trans fat or denatured fats, like corn oil and crap like that. Kathleen > Also, bacon is full of nitrites, a known carcinogen. I don't know if > that was common knowledge when Broda wrote his recommended diet > back in the 70s. He also recommended margarine, which we know today is > not good for you. Also, any toxins an animal eats are stored in its > fat. If it was exposed to pesticides, that's where they go, and you > would then consume them too. Today's meat is not like the free- > roaming, grass-eating animals the cavemen ate. They were not that > fatty because they got exercise. Unless you go organic or eat fresh > game type meats, they are caged, fed corn to fatten them, and may be > given antibiotics and hormones. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 7, 2007 Report Share Posted September 7, 2007 That is great that you have access to raw goat milk! I think pasturization kills the enzymes that are naturally present when it's raw to help you digest the dairy proteins. I have to take a lot of enzymes to digest dairy, even raw, although the raw is much easier for me and doesn't give me phlegm so much or congestion anymore. What else happens in commercial milk, the ones that are pasturized to kill all the bacteria (as opposed to just keeping the place cleaner), is that paturization breaks down the bacteria walls and your body releases histimines in response to the dead bacteria. I can't remember where I read that, but it makes sense. Plus, I was never fond of drinking pus! > > I have a friend here who raises goats and sells raw milk. She said the pasteurization alters enzymes in milk and that is what causes all the allergic reactions like phlegm. > > I haven't tried to find a place close buy with raw cows milk. They do have them near here but I love her goat's milk. She must know what she is doing as a lot of people prefer her goat milk over others in the area. > > I made a wonder yougurt using her raw goat milk. I loved it too much and ate too much of it too often and it really stirred up " toxins " from my Candida problems. I think that is what happen. I know I was one sick bunny who spent a lot of time hopping to the bathroom. > > > > > Re: High Fat Diet/ and everyone > > > Pastuerized, homogonized milk IS full of hormones and not so good stuff and has been altered. If you can get RAW milk from a reputable source, such as a certified farm, then it is great stuff - full of enzymes and good bacteria, and the lactose hasn't been altered during processing, so it isn't a problem. The farmers market in our park has a family that sell organics and the mom was telling me that her daughter couldn't drink milk at all. Then her husband bought her a cow and they milk it and refrigerate it and her daughter can drink it with no problems, although she still can't drink milk from the grocery store. > > C. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 7, 2007 Report Share Posted September 7, 2007 I also heard in a debate on TV regarding pasteurization vs raw, that pasteurization cause the fat particles to break into too small of size, which destroys the value of the milk and makes it an allergen entering the body much like you are stating the below. It could be the protein that is broken down too small but if I recall correctly, it is the fat. -- Re: High Fat Diet/ and everyone That is great that you have access to raw goat milk! I think pasturization kills the enzymes that are naturally present when it's raw to help you digest the dairy proteins. I have to take a lot of enzymes to digest dairy, even raw, although the raw is much easier for me and doesn't give me phlegm so much or congestion anymore. What else happens in commercial milk, the ones that are pasturized to kill all the bacteria (as opposed to just keeping the place cleaner), is that paturization breaks down the bacteria walls and your body releases histimines in response to the dead bacteria. I can't remember where I read that, but it makes sense. Plus, I was never fond of drinking pus! > > I have a friend here who raises goats and sells raw milk. She said the pasteurization alters enzymes in milk and that is what causes all the allergic reactions like phlegm. > > I haven't tried to find a place close buy with raw cows milk. They do have them near here but I love her goat's milk. She must know what she is doing as a lot of people prefer her goat milk over others in the area. > > I made a wonder yougurt using her raw goat milk. I loved it too much and ate too much of it too often and it really stirred up " toxins " from my Candida problems. I think that is what happen. I know I was one sick bunny who spent a lot of time hopping to the bathroom. > > > > > Re: High Fat Diet/ and everyone > > > Pastuerized, homogonized milk IS full of hormones and not so good stuff and has been altered. If you can get RAW milk from a reputable source, such as a certified farm, then it is great stuff - full of enzymes and good bacteria, and the lactose hasn't been altered during processing, so it isn't a problem. The farmers market in our park has a family that sell organics and the mom was telling me that her daughter couldn't drink milk at all. Then her husband bought her a cow and they milk it and refrigerate it and her daughter can drink it with no problems, although she still can't drink milk from the grocery store. > > C. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 7, 2007 Report Share Posted September 7, 2007 Yes the book is old. I got it off Amazon. Used. -- Re: High Fat Diet/ and everyone Is this an old book? Where do I find it? Amazon or what? Was it back in the 70's? Thanks, Tammy --------------------------------- Building a website is a piece of cake. Yahoo! Small Business gives you all the tools to get online. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 7, 2007 Report Share Posted September 7, 2007 I have read a lot about coconut oil and use it for high heat cooking. I did not realize it was a saturated fat. Well, guess I am safe. I used the unrefined coconut oil from Whole Foods. I also bought a pressed coconut meat in a jar from Mercola to use in drinks and cooking things like coconut shrimp. -- Re: High Fat Diet/ and everyone I would disagree with this. Good healthy forms of saturated fats such as coconut oil do not increase insulin resistance. The proper kind of saturated fat is vital to the functioning of your body, hormones, etc. My daughter is a Type 1 diabetic and we do not skimp on good saturated fats for her. She eats bacon, but organic without nitrates. Here are two excellent links regarading fats by a couple of the most expert leading authorities on fats you could hope to find. The first one has references to the studies used for the insulin resistance articles. http://www.westonaprice.org/knowyourfats/type-2-diabetes.html Many excellent articles on fat here: http://www.westonaprice.org/knowyourfats/index.html Linn > > > > > > I don't like saturated fats so I am going to try the Rosedal diet > > first. How long were you on his diet and were you strict with it? > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 7, 2007 Report Share Posted September 7, 2007 I knew I was so sorry I bought a house in the city. Never thought of buying a cow and milking it! -- Re: High Fat Diet/ and everyone Pastuerized, homogonized milk IS full of hormones and not so good stuff and has been altered. If you can get RAW milk from a reputable source, such as a certified farm, then it is great stuff - full of enzymes and good bacteria, and the lactose hasn't been altered during processing, so it isn't a problem The farmers market in our park has a family that sell organics and the mom was telling me that her daughter couldn't drink milk at all. Then her husband bought her a cow and they milk it and refrigerate it and her daughter can drink it with no problems, although she still can't drink milk from the grocery store. C. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 7, 2007 Report Share Posted September 7, 2007 I don't think my mentions margerine but I do not recall. I just ignored it if it did. I was using butter only back in the 70's when my whole family thought I was nuts. I was taking nutrition classes then and the diabetic diet called for butter, not margerine. The book stated that the diabetic diet is the healthiest diet for us. Since it was a college textbook I figured it was trustworthy. That is also where I found out about the ketogenic diet. Back then it had been used for epileptics. -- Re: High Fat Diet/ and everyone My Broda books doesn't recommend margerine - he talks about how good butter is. ????? However, 40 years ago everyone said margerine was better. I've done every other low carb diet too. I never said Rosedale is Atkins, I said it was like every other low carb book out there - probably most similar to Dr. Oz's. Yes, yes - ORGANIC is better as even Val talks about being able to go off progesterone once she switched to organic foods. I wish there were more organic restaurants as going out is a big deal for me. I could give you a handful of links discounting your views on saturated fats but that's why this world is a democracy. All that matters is what works for you in the long haul. SAMMIE > > > > > > I don't like saturated fats so I am going to try the Rosedal diet > > first. How long were you on his diet and were you strict with it? > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 7, 2007 Report Share Posted September 7, 2007 No, I was on high T3 meds when I did protein. When I got the Broda book he mentioned that high protein made the body need 4 times more thyroid meds. I did not really believe it. However, the 2nd week into the high fat diet, I was getting hyper so I had to cut the dose eventually by half. I just felt speeded up and tired at the same time. I had lots of energy and overdid it, not sleeping, etc. That may have contributed to some of the weight loss alone. When I added carbs I had to raise my dose again. I am only one person and not a research population, lol, but I did have to drop my T3 meds some so was correct at least in my case. -- Re: High Fat Diet/ and everyone So, when you were doing high protein you were on even less T3 meds than when you did the high fat diet? What were your symptoms? Maybe I'll wait until I switch over to just T3 meds before starting the diet full-time. I have a lot of weight to lose though, so maybe you and I are different in that regard. SAMMIE > > > > This low carb diet is the only diet I have ever lost weight on. > If you stick to it and don't cheat at all, the weight usually melts > right off and pretty fast too. > > > > As far as I am concerned, we are a carb laden society and I think > the carbs are responsible for most of the obesity in this country. > > > > The other thing I like about this way of eating is that you can > eat as much as you want and never have to deprive yourself. The > first time I did this diet I lost 40 lbs. in 2 months. > > > > I eat the following unlimited: > > > > Fish > > Chicken > > Beef > > Turkey > > Pork (But I don't like pork) > > Eggs > > Cheese (I limit cheese to goat cheese) > > but a couple of slices or cubes each day of any cheese is fine > > > > Fats unlimited: > > > > Mayo (I buy it from the health food store) > > olive oil > > Butter > > > > All low starch veggies > > > > Nuts (for snacks) but you must limit these due to carb content. > Peanuts and macadamias, walnuts, almonds, cashews. > > > > I eat no fruit > > no sugar or foods that contain sugar > > I use sweet and low in coffee but you can use stevia if you like > > Aspartame is very BAD for us > > > > Some people can eat a bit of whole grain each day, e.g. 1 slice > whole grain bread > > or 1 small cup whole grain cereal. > > > > Cream is better than milk on this diet because it's lower in > carbs. I use half and half. > > > > When I get hungry and want to snack at night, I eat a bowl of > chicken salad, egg salad, tuna salad, etc. with chopped celery and > onions and I have some tomato or pickles with it. > > > > During the day for snacks, I grab cheese, nuts, carrots, celery, > etc. > > > > Turkey slices are a good snack. > > > > Chicken drumsticks are a good snack. > > > > Watch out for coatings of white flour. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 7, 2007 Report Share Posted September 7, 2007 Yes, Broda recommends cottege cheese but I think Rosedale does not like it due to its sugar content. Don't quote me but that is what I recall. So diet may have more hidden carbs thus you may avoid the withdrawals from sugar. -- Re: High Fat Diet/ and everyone I had the same constipation problem on Atkins. I think I went well over a week and was worried. Benefiber is a good fiber supplement, and my holistic doc recommended it. The powder form is odorless/tasteless etc. The headaches from carb withdrawl was brutal too. I think that can often be a candida symptom. Good thing about the Broda diet is that you don't go into ketosis and you are to eat 50grams of carbs at least. That might help as it's more than the recommended 20 grams Atkins recommends. I do think it's better for some to slowly cut back on carbs instead of going cold-turkey overnight. Ugh. I'm not looking forward to that. SAMMIE > > What do you do for constipatio? I only lasted 9 days on Atkins. I thought I would explode and the headache was terrible. I must confess I don't like red meat and I guess I would eat just chicken and fish. I do eat grains and I guess that is bad for us for losing weitht. I try to stay away from the carbs as much as I can. > > I just bought another book on low carb and is better than Atkins so maybe I can do that one. I just this illness. I have had to give up so much since I got it. > > > > Bertha > > > --------------------------------- > Choose the right car based on your needs. Check out Yahoo! Autos new Car Finder tool. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 7, 2007 Report Share Posted September 7, 2007 I just found this diet info that I thought I'd share.... http://www.thyroid-info.com/articles/lowcarb.htm Re: High Fat Diet/ and everyone So, when you were doing high protein you were on even less T3 meds than when you did the high fat diet? What were your symptoms? Maybe I'll wait until I switch over to just T3 meds before starting the diet full-time. I have a lot of weight to lose though, so maybe you and I are different in that regard. SAMMIE > > > > This low carb diet is the only diet I have ever lost weight on. > If you stick to it and don't cheat at all, the weight usually melts > right off and pretty fast too. > > > > As far as I am concerned, we are a carb laden society and I think > the carbs are responsible for most of the obesity in this country. > > > > The other thing I like about this way of eating is that you can > eat as much as you want and never have to deprive yourself. The > first time I did this diet I lost 40 lbs. in 2 months. > > > > I eat the following unlimited: > > > > Fish > > Chicken > > Beef > > Turkey > > Pork (But I don't like pork) > > Eggs > > Cheese (I limit cheese to goat cheese) > > but a couple of slices or cubes each day of any cheese is fine > > > > Fats unlimited: > > > > Mayo (I buy it from the health food store) > > olive oil > > Butter > > > > All low starch veggies > > > > Nuts (for snacks) but you must limit these due to carb content. > Peanuts and macadamias, walnuts, almonds, cashews. > > > > I eat no fruit > > no sugar or foods that contain sugar > > I use sweet and low in coffee but you can use stevia if you like > > Aspartame is very BAD for us > > > > Some people can eat a bit of whole grain each day, e.g. 1 slice > whole grain bread > > or 1 small cup whole grain cereal. > > > > Cream is better than milk on this diet because it's lower in > carbs. I use half and half. > > > > When I get hungry and want to snack at night, I eat a bowl of > chicken salad, egg salad, tuna salad, etc. with chopped celery and > onions and I have some tomato or pickles with it. > > > > During the day for snacks, I grab cheese, nuts, carrots, celery, > etc. > > > > Turkey slices are a good snack. > > > > Chicken drumsticks are a good snack. > > > > Watch out for coatings of white flour. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 7, 2007 Report Share Posted September 7, 2007 This must be very exciting for you (killing to birds with one stone). Keep us posted on your progress! --- " C. Mannelli, Ed.D. " wrote: > I have never done the Rosedale diet. I did buy the > book. I was fairly > strict with the diet and lost 8 lbs in 2 > weeks. It has stayed off > and I lost another 2 lbs but have added back carbs, > just not as many as > before the diet. Results are very fast and I had to > lower my T3 meds cause > it makes you need less T3. > > -- Re: Re: High Fat Diet/ > and everyone > > I don't like saturated fats so I am going to try the > Rosedal diet first. How > long were you on his diet and were you strict with > it? > > > jigscam wrote: > I bought the Rosedale diet book by accident. I think > that's like most > low carb diet books - nothing new for me and I was > never successful on > that diet. > > I was really impressed to read what Broda > wrote about in his > book: Hypothyroidism: The Unsuspected Illness and > that's what I'm > speaking about. > > The diet is essentially this: > > 50 grams of carbs, 70 grams ptotein, 90 grams fat > (making it > essentially a high fat diet) and about 1300 calories > > > He doesn't distinguish between saturated and > unsaturated fats, in fact > recommends the following standard daily diet: > > Breakfast: > > 2 eggs > 3 strips ham/bacon/sausage > 2 ounces unsweetened juice > one serving tea/coffee (with optional cream) > > Lunch & Dinner: > > one serving meat/fish/fowl > Veggies with butter or oleo > Salad with abundance of dressing (assuming high > fat/low sugar probably) > one serving fresh fruit > one serving milk/tea/coffee > > This might seem similar to South Beach in that fruit > is allowed > (unlike Atkins), but saturated fat isn't > discouraged. If you think > back to our caveman days when we did eat saturated > fat, one can assume > it's not bad. Also, meat eating mammals eat this way > and don't have > heart attacks or cholesterol issues. It's the combo > of sugar/fats > that is bad and causes heart disease/high > cholesterol. Animal fat > isn't bad, though trans fat are. Also, he mentions > that this diet > doestn' trigger ketosis, like Atkins. > > I need to detox a bit over the weekend, but I will > start it soon. The > trick will be going down to 50 carbs daily. That > will likely cause > some headaches and stir up my candida issues. But > maybe not. > > SAMMIE > > > > > > Are you referring to diet high in SATURATED fats > or the good > UNSATURED fats? I'm about to start the Rosedale diet > on Monday. Have > either of you tried it? > > > > > > --------------------------------- > Moody friends. Drama queens. Your life? Nope! - > their life, your story. > Play Sims Stories at Yahoo! Games. > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > removed] > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > removed] > > ________________________________________________________________________________\ ____ Pinpoint customers who are looking for what you sell. http://searchmarketing.yahoo.com/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 7, 2007 Report Share Posted September 7, 2007 > > My Broda books doesn't recommend margerine - he talks about how good butter is. ????? Didn't your diet recommend: " Veggies with butter or oleo " Isn't oleo margarine? > > I could give you a handful of links discounting your views on saturated fats, but that's why > this world is a democracy. All that matters is what works for you in the long haul. This statement I agree with completely. Everyone seems to have an opinion on which diet is the best, but everyone seems to keep trying different diets and then gaining everything back. My OPINION is that low fat diets were the biggest joke perpetrated on the American public, followed only by the Atkins diet. Doesn't common sense tell you that something like ketosis is bad? My knowledge of what works for losing weight is based on experimenting with my husband, who was 215 lbs but is now 155, and has kept the weight off for 5 years. I only had 30 lbs to lose and was never considered that heavy. (Course, just changing from Synthroid to Armour might have had a lot to do with my excess weight coming off.) He, however, was fat. Everyone says EXERCISE! Well he'd go for walks after work every night, and every year, he was a fatter guy walking around the block! But he was very much a carb addict. So then I read everything I could on diet: Ornish (no fat--nope, triglycerides went through the roof); Atkins (high protein--nope, we both gained weight); Zone (combo of everything--too hard to follow trying to figure out " food blocks " ); Shintani (vegetarian--great recipes and we did lose some weight mostly cause it's low cal); and finally Dr. Weil (just eat moderate portions of everything--protein, carbs, and fat, and dump the processed foods). Just by avoiding most processed foods and especially anything with high fructose corn syrup, we have been able to maintain our optimum weights. I only used " real " food like sugar instead of aspartame or sweet & lo, butter instead of margarine, and nothing with food colors or preservatives since they give me hives. However, we both got adrenal fatigue in May of this year and are using the Rosedale diet not so much to lose weight, but to keep our prediabetes/hypoglycemia under control and hopefully, not turn into diabetes. Severely cutting the carbs has been helpful, as recommended. Before, we'd eat ice cream occasionally and had a carb like rice or pasta or bread with our meals. As long as we ate " real food, " and lots of fiber from fruits, veggies, whole grains, beans, and nuts, the weight did not creep back up. So, good luck to all out there trying to lose weight, however you choose to do it. It can be done. Barb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 7, 2007 Report Share Posted September 7, 2007 It's the homogenization that screws up the fat in milk. The combination of pastuerization and homogenization render milk into basically a dead, enzymeless food that is in essence an allergen. It's one of the major causes of asthma, dietary reactions, arthritis, IBS & other gut problems, diabetes, and many other problems. Linn > > I also heard in a debate on TV regarding pasteurization vs raw, that > pasteurization cause the fat particles to break into too small of size, > which destroys the value of the milk and makes it an allergen entering the > body much like you are stating the below. It could be the protein that is > broken down too small but if I recall correctly, it is the fat. > > -------Original Message------- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 7, 2007 Report Share Posted September 7, 2007 Organic meats are expensive. This is why I don't buy red meats and I don't think I would do well on . I would be eating way too much chicken and I really don't like chicken either. --- " C. Mannelli, Ed.D. " wrote: > I know bacon and heavy cream has chemicals in it. > It seems like everything > out there has chemicals in it so I buy my foods > organic. I bought the bacon > that says no coloring or additives. But I am sure > that is not true. > > -- Re: Re: High Fat Diet/ > and everyone > > I figure if I don't lose weight by 4 weeks then I > will try but you > may be right about the diet industry affecting but > bacon and heavy cream > still has chemicals in them. I will keep you all > posted of my progress! > > > > jigscam wrote: > I did Atkins for several months to the T. Rosedale > is like every > other low carb diet. You shouldn't be scared of > saturated fats. There > is no reason to be. That's the diet industry > effecting you. > > SAMMIE > > > > > > I don't like saturated fats so I am going to try > the Rosedal diet > first. How long were you on his diet and were you > strict with it? > > > > > > --------------------------------- > Moody friends. Drama queens. Your life? Nope! - > their life, your story. > Play Sims Stories at Yahoo! Games. > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > removed] > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > removed] > > ________________________________________________________________________________\ ____ Shape Yahoo! in your own image. Join our Network Research Panel today! http://surveylink.yahoo.com/gmrs/yahoo_panel_invite.asp?a=7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 7, 2007 Report Share Posted September 7, 2007 What am I missing? I didn't think he said anything about cottage cheese. I thought most peeps were down on it since it's high in carbs. Probably best to get the regular kind (not low or fat free) correct? I'm a bit of a brain fog lately. I'm not sure what I'm reacting too. Hands swelling........lips swollen.......... maybe too much sea salt?? I bumped from 1 - 2 teaspoons. SAMMIE > > Yes, Broda recommends cottege cheese but I think Rosedale does not like it > due to its sugar content. Don't quote me but that is what I recall. So > diet may have more hidden carbs thus you may avoid the withdrawals > from sugar. > > -------Original Message------- > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 7, 2007 Report Share Posted September 7, 2007 I think you'd be surprised at the cost. I noticed some in our local generic market yesterday (Lucky's in Oakland CA) and it wasn't more or less than the others. Whole Foods can sometimes be more expensive, but I bought oprganic Buffalo and Turkey from there, so it doesn't always have to be chicken if you don't want. SAMMIE > > Organic meats are expensive. This is why I don't buy > red meats and I don't think I would do well on . > I would be eating way too much chicken and I really > don't like chicken either. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 7, 2007 Report Share Posted September 7, 2007 Barb, You might try replacing any sugar you use with raw honey, real maple syrup or maple sugar or agave nectar. These are real whole foods complete with minerals and enzymes. Sugar is not a whole food, it is a highly processed food. While it is better than using synthetic replacement sugars or HFCS, especially for those with diabetic concerns, the whole food versions are the best choice. For ice cream, stick with only those that have real ingredients in them, there are very few choices, no gums, thickeners, artificial ingredients, chemicals, etc. Better yet, make your own. If you're avoiding dairy, you can make ice cream with coconut milk. If you're having prediabetes symptoms, you might consider elminating bread altogether, bread is not a whole food, it's a processed food. Either that or consider making homemade flatbreads or homemade sour dough bread occasionally. They're much better for you. Linn > > > Just by avoiding most processed foods and especially anything with high > fructose corn syrup, we have been able to maintain our optimum > weights. I only used " real " food like sugar instead of aspartame or > sweet & lo, butter instead of margarine, and nothing with food colors > or preservatives since they give me hives. > > However, we both got adrenal fatigue in May of this year and are using > the Rosedale diet not so much to lose weight, but to keep our > prediabetes/hypoglycemia under control and hopefully, not turn into > diabetes. Severely cutting the carbs has been helpful, as > recommended. Before, we'd eat ice cream occasionally and had a carb > like rice or pasta or bread with our meals. As long as we ate " real > food, " and lots of fiber from fruits, veggies, whole grains, beans, and > nuts, the weight did not creep back up. > > So, good luck to all out there trying to lose weight, however you > choose to do it. It can be done. > > Barb > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 7, 2007 Report Share Posted September 7, 2007 Indeed, the neighbors may become a tad peturbed. ;-) I live in the country. I have cows on two sides of me. It is amazing some of the sounds they make. They sound like of the background sounds on alien planets in Star Wars! " I knew I was so sorry I bought a house in the city. Never thought of buying a cow and milking it! " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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