Re: High Fat Diet/ and everyone

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

I got the Broda book yesterday and read the chapter on diet

first. The book seems pretty interesting anyways.

I'm so fascinated with this because I realize that it's the only

diet I've never tried. And why would I? We've been conditioned to

think fat was bad. I've been thinking back to years ago when I was

doing a diet high in carbs, low fat and high protein. I was running

5 miles a week and lifting weights every other day. I barely lost 5

pounds in 8 months. I can't tell you how frustrating it was. And I

think this is when my likely already low thyroid got worse. I

couldn't understand why I would have high cholesterol when doing

this while also consiering my exercising regime.

I'm a bit confused by his percentages groupings of carbs. (5/15/20

% groupings) It would seem the 5% group is the one you can have

more of - correct, as they are lower in carbs? But then avocados

are 5%, but said to be eaten sparingly. I'm confused.

Are you following the diet?

SAMMIE

>

> Sammie:

>

> Now you are talking my language!! I totally agree with your point

about

> cavemen and diet. Do you have the Broda book? He has a

chapter on

> high fat diet and he says the same thing.

>

> I never stopped eating eggs as often as I want and when my

cholesterol went

> up due to the pill, my doctor said that was not linked to the

pill. So I

> stopped eating bacon and eggs, went vegetarian. Guess what, my

cholesterol

> went up and up.

>

> So now I realize the bad guy is refined sugar. Eating natural

foods that

> our ancestors makes sense to me.

>

>

>

> -------Original Message-------

>

>

[Guest guest]

Are you referring to diet high in SATURATED fats or the good UNSATURED fats? I'm

about to start the Rosedale diet on Monday. Have either of you tried it?

jigscam wrote:

Hi ,

I got the Broda book yesterday and read the chapter on diet

first. The book seems pretty interesting anyways.

I'm so fascinated with this because I realize that it's the only

diet I've never tried. And why would I? We've been conditioned to

think fat was bad. I've been thinking back to years ago when I was

doing a diet high in carbs, low fat and high protein. I was running

5 miles a week and lifting weights every other day. I barely lost 5

pounds in 8 months. I can't tell you how frustrating it was. And I

think this is when my likely already low thyroid got worse. I

couldn't understand why I would have high cholesterol when doing

this while also consiering my exercising regime.

I'm a bit confused by his percentages groupings of carbs. (5/15/20

% groupings) It would seem the 5% group is the one you can have

more of - correct, as they are lower in carbs? But then avocados

are 5%, but said to be eaten sparingly. I'm confused.

Are you following the diet?

SAMMIE

>

> Sammie:

>

> Now you are talking my language!! I totally agree with your point

about

> cavemen and diet. Do you have the Broda book? He has a

chapter on

> high fat diet and he says the same thing.

>

> I never stopped eating eggs as often as I want and when my

cholesterol went

> up due to the pill, my doctor said that was not linked to the

pill. So I

> stopped eating bacon and eggs, went vegetarian. Guess what, my

cholesterol

> went up and up.

>

> So now I realize the bad guy is refined sugar. Eating natural

foods that

> our ancestors makes sense to me.

>

>

>

> -------Original Message-------

>

>

---------------------------------

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[Guest guest]

I have tried the Rosedale diet now for 2 weeks and prefer diet.

Cheese helps me alot.

-- Re: Re: High Fat Diet/ and everyone

Are you referring to diet high in SATURATED fats or the good UNSATURED fats?

I'm about to start the Rosedale diet on Monday. Have either of you tried it?

jigscam wrote:

Hi ,

I got the Broda book yesterday and read the chapter on diet

first. The book seems pretty interesting anyways.

I'm so fascinated with this because I realize that it's the only

diet I've never tried. And why would I? We've been conditioned to

think fat was bad. I've been thinking back to years ago when I was

doing a diet high in carbs, low fat and high protein. I was running

5 miles a week and lifting weights every other day. I barely lost 5

pounds in 8 months. I can't tell you how frustrating it was. And I

think this is when my likely already low thyroid got worse. I

couldn't understand why I would have high cholesterol when doing

this while also consiering my exercising regime.

I'm a bit confused by his percentages groupings of carbs. (5/15/20

% groupings) It would seem the 5% group is the one you can have

more of - correct, as they are lower in carbs? But then avocados

are 5%, but said to be eaten sparingly. I'm confused.

Are you following the diet?

SAMMIE

>

> Sammie:

>

> Now you are talking my language!! I totally agree with your point

about

> cavemen and diet. Do you have the Broda book? He has a

chapter on

> high fat diet and he says the same thing.

>

> I never stopped eating eggs as often as I want and when my

cholesterol went

> up due to the pill, my doctor said that was not linked to the

pill. So I

> stopped eating bacon and eggs, went vegetarian. Guess what, my

cholesterol

> went up and up.

>

> So now I realize the bad guy is refined sugar. Eating natural

foods that

> our ancestors makes sense to me.

>

>

>

> -------Original Message-------

>

>

---------------------------------

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[Guest guest]

I just try to add as many fats and subtract as many carbs as I can. I have

lost another 2 lbs and even added some carbs back but still have not gained

weight. I like to have a aslad with all kinds of greens, avocados, olives,

tomatoes, cheeses, bacon-not turkey but real bacon, strawberries, various

vegs and fruits, for lunch. For breakfast it is bacon or ham or eggs or

cheeses.

For the salad dressing it is heavy whipping creme with a little olive oil

and balsamic vinegar. The vinegar makes it thick and better than salad

dressings. I eat a lot of watermelon.

I eat any meats I want.

-- Re: Re: High Fat Diet/ and everyone

Are you referring to diet high in SATURATED fats or the good UNSATURED fats?

I'm about to start the Rosedale diet on Monday. Have either of you tried it?

jigscam wrote:

Hi ,

I got the Broda book yesterday and read the chapter on diet

first. The book seems pretty interesting anyways.

I'm so fascinated with this because I realize that it's the only

diet I've never tried. And why would I? We've been conditioned to

think fat was bad. I've been thinking back to years ago when I was

doing a diet high in carbs, low fat and high protein. I was running

5 miles a week and lifting weights every other day. I barely lost 5

pounds in 8 months. I can't tell you how frustrating it was. And I

think this is when my likely already low thyroid got worse. I

couldn't understand why I would have high cholesterol when doing

this while also consiering my exercising regime.

I'm a bit confused by his percentages groupings of carbs. (5/15/20

% groupings) It would seem the 5% group is the one you can have

more of - correct, as they are lower in carbs? But then avocados

are 5%, but said to be eaten sparingly. I'm confused.

Are you following the diet?

SAMMIE

>

> Sammie:

>

> Now you are talking my language!! I totally agree with your point

about

> cavemen and diet. Do you have the Broda book? He has a

chapter on

> high fat diet and he says the same thing.

>

> I never stopped eating eggs as often as I want and when my

cholesterol went

> up due to the pill, my doctor said that was not linked to the

pill. So I

> stopped eating bacon and eggs, went vegetarian. Guess what, my

cholesterol

> went up and up.

>

> So now I realize the bad guy is refined sugar. Eating natural

foods that

> our ancestors makes sense to me.

>

>

>

> -------Original Message-------

>

>

---------------------------------

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[Guest guest]

Sammie:

I followed the diet the first month. I drank the eggnog concoction when I

wanted a snack, with the egg in it. Now I still eat cheese and heaving

whipping cream in my coffee, yogart and salads. I eliminated bread except

for special ocassions. But if I eat bread it makes me crave it.

And I eat ice cream every night and have not gained weight. Lost 12 lbs

total. I know the ice cream has carbs but since I got most of the weight

off I am taking a break. When I want to lose the next 5 lbs I will drop the

ice cream to every 3rd night, lol!

-- Re: High Fat Diet/ and everyone

Hi ,

I got the Broda book yesterday and read the chapter on diet

first. The book seems pretty interesting anyways.

I'm so fascinated with this because I realize that it's the only

diet I've never tried. And why would I? We've been conditioned to

think fat was bad. I've been thinking back to years ago when I was

doing a diet high in carbs, low fat and high protein. I was running

5 miles a week and lifting weights every other day. I barely lost 5

pounds in 8 months. I can't tell you how frustrating it was. And I

think this is when my likely already low thyroid got worse. I

couldn't understand why I would have high cholesterol when doing

this while also consiering my exercising regime.

I'm a bit confused by his percentages groupings of carbs. (5/15/20

% groupings) It would seem the 5% group is the one you can have

more of - correct, as they are lower in carbs? But then avocados

are 5%, but said to be eaten sparingly. I'm confused.

Are you following the diet?

SAMMIE

>

> Sammie:

>

> Now you are talking my language!! I totally agree with your point

about

> cavemen and diet. Do you have the Broda book? He has a

chapter on

> high fat diet and he says the same thing.

>

> I never stopped eating eggs as often as I want and when my

cholesterol went

> up due to the pill, my doctor said that was not linked to the

pill. So I

> stopped eating bacon and eggs, went vegetarian. Guess what, my

cholesterol

> went up and up.

>

> So now I realize the bad guy is refined sugar. Eating natural

foods that

> our ancestors makes sense to me.

>

>

>

> -------Original Message-------

>

>

[Guest guest]

This low carb diet is the only diet I have ever lost weight on. If you stick to

it and don't cheat at all, the weight usually melts right off and pretty fast

too.

As far as I am concerned, we are a carb laden society and I think the carbs are

responsible for most of the obesity in this country.

The other thing I like about this way of eating is that you can eat as much as

you want and never have to deprive yourself. The first time I did this diet I

lost 40 lbs. in 2 months.

I eat the following unlimited:

Fish

Chicken

Beef

Turkey

Pork (But I don't like pork)

Eggs

Cheese (I limit cheese to goat cheese)

but a couple of slices or cubes each day of any cheese is fine

Fats unlimited:

Mayo (I buy it from the health food store)

olive oil

Butter

All low starch veggies

Nuts (for snacks) but you must limit these due to carb content. Peanuts and

macadamias, walnuts, almonds, cashews.

I eat no fruit

no sugar or foods that contain sugar

I use sweet and low in coffee but you can use stevia if you like

Aspartame is very BAD for us

Some people can eat a bit of whole grain each day, e.g. 1 slice whole grain

bread

or 1 small cup whole grain cereal.

Cream is better than milk on this diet because it's lower in carbs. I use half

and half.

When I get hungry and want to snack at night, I eat a bowl of chicken salad, egg

salad, tuna salad, etc. with chopped celery and onions and I have some tomato or

pickles with it.

During the day for snacks, I grab cheese, nuts, carrots, celery, etc.

Turkey slices are a good snack.

Chicken drumsticks are a good snack.

Watch out for coatings of white flour.

Re: High Fat Diet/ and everyone

Hi ,

I got the Broda book yesterday and read the chapter on diet

first. The book seems pretty interesting anyways.

I'm so fascinated with this because I realize that it's the only

diet I've never tried. And why would I? We've been conditioned to

think fat was bad. I've been thinking back to years ago when I was

doing a diet high in carbs, low fat and high protein. I was running

5 miles a week and lifting weights every other day. I barely lost 5

pounds in 8 months. I can't tell you how frustrating it was. And I

think this is when my likely already low thyroid got worse. I

couldn't understand why I would have high cholesterol when doing

this while also consiering my exercising regime.

I'm a bit confused by his percentages groupings of carbs. (5/15/20

% groupings) It would seem the 5% group is the one you can have

more of - correct, as they are lower in carbs? But then avocados

are 5%, but said to be eaten sparingly. I'm confused.

Are you following the diet?

SAMMIE

>

> Sammie:

>

> Now you are talking my language!! I totally agree with your point

about

> cavemen and diet. Do you have the Broda book? He has a

chapter on

> high fat diet and he says the same thing.

>

> I never stopped eating eggs as often as I want and when my

cholesterol went

> up due to the pill, my doctor said that was not linked to the

pill. So I

> stopped eating bacon and eggs, went vegetarian. Guess what, my

cholesterol

> went up and up.

>

> So now I realize the bad guy is refined sugar. Eating natural

foods that

> our ancestors makes sense to me.

>

>

>

> -------Original Message-------

>

>

[Guest guest]

I bought the Rosedale diet book by accident. I think that's like most

low carb diet books - nothing new for me and I was never successful on

that diet.

I was really impressed to read what Broda wrote about in his

book: Hypothyroidism: The Unsuspected Illness and that's what I'm

speaking about.

The diet is essentially this:

50 grams of carbs, 70 grams ptotein, 90 grams fat (making it

essentially a high fat diet) and about 1300 calories

He doesn't distinguish between saturated and unsaturated fats, in fact

recommends the following standard daily diet:

Breakfast:

2 eggs

3 strips ham/bacon/sausage

2 ounces unsweetened juice

one serving tea/coffee (with optional cream)

Lunch & Dinner:

one serving meat/fish/fowl

Veggies with butter or oleo

Salad with abundance of dressing (assuming high fat/low sugar probably)

one serving fresh fruit

one serving milk/tea/coffee

This might seem similar to South Beach in that fruit is allowed

(unlike Atkins), but saturated fat isn't discouraged. If you think

back to our caveman days when we did eat saturated fat, one can assume

it's not bad. Also, meat eating mammals eat this way and don't have

heart attacks or cholesterol issues. It's the combo of sugar/fats

that is bad and causes heart disease/high cholesterol. Animal fat

isn't bad, though trans fat are. Also, he mentions that this diet

doestn' trigger ketosis, like Atkins.

I need to detox a bit over the weekend, but I will start it soon. The

trick will be going down to 50 carbs daily. That will likely cause

some headaches and stir up my candida issues. But maybe not.

SAMMIE

>

> Are you referring to diet high in SATURATED fats or the good

UNSATURED fats? I'm about to start the Rosedale diet on Monday. Have

either of you tried it?

>

>

[Guest guest]

G:

Yes, I've tried this diet and didn't cheat. I did it faithfully and

lost a bit of water weight but not much, then a month into it I woke

up with Grave's eye disease and didn't know what it was. It took me

a few months to get to a doc and finally get diagnosed. It's

possible that my thyroid was way too low at that time making weight

loss impossible or that this isn't the diet for me. I always

wondered if the severe carb restriction somehow triggered the

Grave's antibodies. I found another girl in the Grave's group that

had the exact same experience. It's also possible that the Candida

is what is reponsible for triggering the Grave's once I cut back on

the carbs and shocked my body. I will never know.

At any rate, the fact that this doc that wrote a book about

Hypothyroidism and suggests this high fat diet (and the reasons why)

makes me believe that this is the one for me. He also is against

sugar/carbs, but because fat doesn't trigger glucose, this is

probably weigh it's better for HypoT people. Protein and carbs

trigger glucose and high protein can cause further thyroid problems.

SAMMIE

>

> This low carb diet is the only diet I have ever lost weight on.

If you stick to it and don't cheat at all, the weight usually melts

right off and pretty fast too.

>

> As far as I am concerned, we are a carb laden society and I think

the carbs are responsible for most of the obesity in this country.

>

> The other thing I like about this way of eating is that you can

eat as much as you want and never have to deprive yourself. The

first time I did this diet I lost 40 lbs. in 2 months.

>

> I eat the following unlimited:

>

> Fish

> Chicken

> Beef

> Turkey

> Pork (But I don't like pork)

> Eggs

> Cheese (I limit cheese to goat cheese)

> but a couple of slices or cubes each day of any cheese is fine

>

> Fats unlimited:

>

> Mayo (I buy it from the health food store)

> olive oil

> Butter

>

> All low starch veggies

>

> Nuts (for snacks) but you must limit these due to carb content.

Peanuts and macadamias, walnuts, almonds, cashews.

>

> I eat no fruit

> no sugar or foods that contain sugar

> I use sweet and low in coffee but you can use stevia if you like

> Aspartame is very BAD for us

>

> Some people can eat a bit of whole grain each day, e.g. 1 slice

whole grain bread

> or 1 small cup whole grain cereal.

>

> Cream is better than milk on this diet because it's lower in

carbs. I use half and half.

>

> When I get hungry and want to snack at night, I eat a bowl of

chicken salad, egg salad, tuna salad, etc. with chopped celery and

onions and I have some tomato or pickles with it.

>

> During the day for snacks, I grab cheese, nuts, carrots, celery,

etc.

>

> Turkey slices are a good snack.

>

> Chicken drumsticks are a good snack.

>

> Watch out for coatings of white flour.

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Interesting that Broda is not big on cheese. Did you notice

that? He says to eat sparingly. I wonder why. Is it because it's

more protein than fat?

SAMMIE

>

> I have tried the Rosedale diet now for 2 weeks and prefer

diet.

> Cheese helps me alot.

>

> -------Original Message-------

>

>

[Guest guest]

Would you mind giving me that dressing recipe?

And is there a difference between heavy cream and heavy whipping

cream? I can easily find heavy cream at the store, but maybe this

is different.

SAMMIE

>

> I just try to add as many fats and subtract as many carbs as I

can. I have

> lost another 2 lbs and even added some carbs back but still have

not gained

> weight. I like to have a aslad with all kinds of greens,

avocados, olives,

> tomatoes, cheeses, bacon-not turkey but real bacon, strawberries,

various

> vegs and fruits, for lunch. For breakfast it is bacon or ham or

eggs or

> cheeses.

>

> For the salad dressing it is heavy whipping creme with a little

olive oil

> and balsamic vinegar. The vinegar makes it thick and better than

salad

> dressings. I eat a lot of watermelon.

>

> I eat any meats I want.

>

> -------Original Message-------

>

>

[Guest guest]

I don't like saturated fats so I am going to try the Rosedal diet first. How

long were you on his diet and were you strict with it?

jigscam wrote:

I bought the Rosedale diet book by accident. I think that's like most

low carb diet books - nothing new for me and I was never successful on

that diet.

I was really impressed to read what Broda wrote about in his

book: Hypothyroidism: The Unsuspected Illness and that's what I'm

speaking about.

The diet is essentially this:

50 grams of carbs, 70 grams ptotein, 90 grams fat (making it

essentially a high fat diet) and about 1300 calories

He doesn't distinguish between saturated and unsaturated fats, in fact

recommends the following standard daily diet:

Breakfast:

2 eggs

3 strips ham/bacon/sausage

2 ounces unsweetened juice

one serving tea/coffee (with optional cream)

Lunch & Dinner:

one serving meat/fish/fowl

Veggies with butter or oleo

Salad with abundance of dressing (assuming high fat/low sugar probably)

one serving fresh fruit

one serving milk/tea/coffee

This might seem similar to South Beach in that fruit is allowed

(unlike Atkins), but saturated fat isn't discouraged. If you think

back to our caveman days when we did eat saturated fat, one can assume

it's not bad. Also, meat eating mammals eat this way and don't have

heart attacks or cholesterol issues. It's the combo of sugar/fats

that is bad and causes heart disease/high cholesterol. Animal fat

isn't bad, though trans fat are. Also, he mentions that this diet

doestn' trigger ketosis, like Atkins.

I need to detox a bit over the weekend, but I will start it soon. The

trick will be going down to 50 carbs daily. That will likely cause

some headaches and stir up my candida issues. But maybe not.

SAMMIE

>

> Are you referring to diet high in SATURATED fats or the good

UNSATURED fats? I'm about to start the Rosedale diet on Monday. Have

either of you tried it?

>

>

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[Guest guest]

I did Atkins for several months to the T. Rosedale is like every

other low carb diet. You shouldn't be scared of saturated fats. There

is no reason to be. That's the diet industry effecting you.

SAMMIE

>

> I don't like saturated fats so I am going to try the Rosedal diet

first. How long were you on his diet and were you strict with it?

>

>

[Guest guest]

While dairy has protein, it also has saturated fat, where chemical

toxins from the animal are stored. It also has no fiber. In

addition, American milk is full of hormones, antibiotics, and

pesticide residue. Half the world is lactose intolerant, which

indicates that milk is really for baby cows, not humans. However,

cheese does taste good, so use it sparingly to flavor food, not as a

major food source.

My favorite snack: thin slice of mozzarella topped with fresh tomato

and basil, then drizzled with Goya extra virgin olive oil and salt.

Favorite breakfast from Rosedale: two poached eggs over the tomato,

basil, and olive oil, then sprinkled with garlic salt and parmesan

cheese. Ummmm!

> >

> > I have tried the Rosedale diet now for 2 weeks and prefer

> diet.

> > Cheese helps me alot.

> >

> > -------Original Message-------

> >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

I used raw milk cheese from Whole Foods. Milk fat is good for infants and

my mom swears by raw milk.

-- Re: Re: High Fat Diet/ and everyone

You're making me hungry and I've got none of that cheese in the house but we

ve got plenty of tomatoes from our garden....LOL

Re: High Fat Diet/ and everyone

While dairy has protein, it also has saturated fat, where chemical

toxins from the animal are stored. It also has no fiber. In

addition, American milk is full of hormones, antibiotics, and

pesticide residue. Half the world is lactose intolerant, which

indicates that milk is really for baby cows, not humans. However,

cheese does taste good, so use it sparingly to flavor food, not as a

major food source.

My favorite snack: thin slice of mozzarella topped with fresh tomato

and basil, then drizzled with Goya extra virgin olive oil and salt.

Favorite breakfast from Rosedale: two poached eggs over the tomato,

basil, and olive oil, then sprinkled with garlic salt and parmesan

cheese. Ummmm!

> >

> > I have tried the Rosedale diet now for 2 weeks and prefer

> diet.

> > Cheese helps me alot.

> >

> > -------Original Message-------

> >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Ditto. I agree with milk being destroyed by the pasteurization process and

with the toxins. SO if one can get organic, raw milk, as some farms can

sell it for animal consumption but for humans it has to be pumped full of

chemicals, well, I would love to have a good supply.

-- Re: High Fat Diet/ and everyone

I did Atkins for several months to the T. Rosedale is like every

other low carb diet. You shouldn't be scared of saturated fats. There

is no reason to be. That's the diet industry effecting you.

SAMMIE

>

> I don't like saturated fats so I am going to try the Rosedal diet

first. How long were you on his diet and were you strict with it?

>

>

[Guest guest]

With my very high fiber diet that I posted today, with plenty of salad, vegs

fruits, nuts, I do not need additional fiber from milk. That breakfast

sounds good. I love my bacon in the morning several days a week.

-- Re: High Fat Diet/ and everyone

While dairy has protein, it also has saturated fat, where chemical

toxins from the animal are stored. It also has no fiber. In

addition, American milk is full of hormones, antibiotics, and

pesticide residue. Half the world is lactose intolerant, which

indicates that milk is really for baby cows, not humans. However,

cheese does taste good, so use it sparingly to flavor food, not as a

major food source.

My favorite snack: thin slice of mozzarella topped with fresh tomato

and basil, then drizzled with Goya extra virgin olive oil and salt.

Favorite breakfast from Rosedale: two poached eggs over the tomato,

basil, and olive oil, then sprinkled with garlic salt and parmesan

cheese. Ummmm!

> >

> > I have tried the Rosedale diet now for 2 weeks and prefer

> diet.

> > Cheese helps me alot.

> >

> > -------Original Message-------

> >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

I make my salad then pour however much heavy whipping cream I want to use.

I then toss a little olive oil just in case I need that kind of fat, then I

pour balsamic vinegar over it and in a minute it thickens the cream and it

is a fluffy delicious dressing. You can add seasonings to it but it is so

good I just use it alone over my salads with no seasonings.

-- Re: High Fat Diet/ and everyone

Would you mind giving me that dressing recipe?

And is there a difference between heavy cream and heavy whipping

cream? I can easily find heavy cream at the store, but maybe this

is different.

SAMMIE

>

> I just try to add as many fats and subtract as many carbs as I

can. I have

> lost another 2 lbs and even added some carbs back but still have

not gained

> weight. I like to have a aslad with all kinds of greens,

avocados, olives,

> tomatoes, cheeses, bacon-not turkey but real bacon, strawberries,

various

> vegs and fruits, for lunch. For breakfast it is bacon or ham or

eggs or

> cheeses.

>

> For the salad dressing it is heavy whipping creme with a little

olive oil

> and balsamic vinegar. The vinegar makes it thick and better than

salad

> dressings. I eat a lot of watermelon.

>

> I eat any meats I want.

>

> -------Original Message-------

>

>

[Guest guest]

I will have to look at that again. I thought he said cottege cheese was

good. I do have the 1976 edition and don't know if there is a newer edition

with a changes in the diet.

-- Re: High Fat Diet/ and everyone

Interesting that Broda is not big on cheese. Did you notice

that? He says to eat sparingly. I wonder why. Is it because it's

more protein than fat?

SAMMIE

>

> I have tried the Rosedale diet now for 2 weeks and prefer

diet.

> Cheese helps me alot.

>

> -------Original Message-------

>

>

[Guest guest]

Sammie:

When you try it let me know how it goes. Into the second week I had to cut

my T3 meds in half and stayed at a half dose until I started adding back

carbs, and I had to up my T3 a little. I still am not at the dose I had to

have on high protein. That taught me that high protein is not great for me.

-- Re: High Fat Diet/ and everyone

G:

Yes, I've tried this diet and didn't cheat. I did it faithfully and

lost a bit of water weight but not much, then a month into it I woke

up with Grave's eye disease and didn't know what it was. It took me

a few months to get to a doc and finally get diagnosed. It's

possible that my thyroid was way too low at that time making weight

loss impossible or that this isn't the diet for me. I always

wondered if the severe carb restriction somehow triggered the

Grave's antibodies. I found another girl in the Grave's group that

had the exact same experience. It's also possible that the Candida

is what is reponsible for triggering the Grave's once I cut back on

the carbs and shocked my body. I will never know.

At any rate, the fact that this doc that wrote a book about

Hypothyroidism and suggests this high fat diet (and the reasons why)

makes me believe that this is the one for me. He also is against

sugar/carbs, but because fat doesn't trigger glucose, this is

probably weigh it's better for HypoT people. Protein and carbs

trigger glucose and high protein can cause further thyroid problems.

SAMMIE

>

> This low carb diet is the only diet I have ever lost weight on.

If you stick to it and don't cheat at all, the weight usually melts

right off and pretty fast too.

>

> As far as I am concerned, we are a carb laden society and I think

the carbs are responsible for most of the obesity in this country.

>

> The other thing I like about this way of eating is that you can

eat as much as you want and never have to deprive yourself. The

first time I did this diet I lost 40 lbs. in 2 months.

>

> I eat the following unlimited:

>

> Fish

> Chicken

> Beef

> Turkey

> Pork (But I don't like pork)

> Eggs

> Cheese (I limit cheese to goat cheese)

> but a couple of slices or cubes each day of any cheese is fine

>

> Fats unlimited:

>

> Mayo (I buy it from the health food store)

> olive oil

> Butter

>

> All low starch veggies

>

> Nuts (for snacks) but you must limit these due to carb content.

Peanuts and macadamias, walnuts, almonds, cashews.

>

> I eat no fruit

> no sugar or foods that contain sugar

> I use sweet and low in coffee but you can use stevia if you like

> Aspartame is very BAD for us

>

> Some people can eat a bit of whole grain each day, e.g. 1 slice

whole grain bread

> or 1 small cup whole grain cereal.

>

> Cream is better than milk on this diet because it's lower in

carbs. I use half and half.

>

> When I get hungry and want to snack at night, I eat a bowl of

chicken salad, egg salad, tuna salad, etc. with chopped celery and

onions and I have some tomato or pickles with it.

>

> During the day for snacks, I grab cheese, nuts, carrots, celery,

etc.

>

> Turkey slices are a good snack.

>

> Chicken drumsticks are a good snack.

>

> Watch out for coatings of white flour.

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I am gonna save this diet for hints when I am too tired to think. Thanks!

-- Re: Re: High Fat Diet/ and everyone

This low carb diet is the only diet I have ever lost weight on. If you stick

to it and don't cheat at all, the weight usually melts right off and pretty

fast too.

As far as I am concerned, we are a carb laden society and I think the carbs

are responsible for most of the obesity in this country.

The other thing I like about this way of eating is that you can eat as much

as you want and never have to deprive yourself. The first time I did this

diet I lost 40 lbs. in 2 months.

I eat the following unlimited:

Fish

Chicken

Beef

Turkey

Pork (But I don't like pork)

Eggs

Cheese (I limit cheese to goat cheese)

but a couple of slices or cubes each day of any cheese is fine

Fats unlimited:

Mayo (I buy it from the health food store)

olive oil

Butter

All low starch veggies

Nuts (for snacks) but you must limit these due to carb content. Peanuts and

macadamias, walnuts, almonds, cashews.

I eat no fruit

no sugar or foods that contain sugar

I use sweet and low in coffee but you can use stevia if you like

Aspartame is very BAD for us

Some people can eat a bit of whole grain each day, e.g. 1 slice whole grain

bread

or 1 small cup whole grain cereal.

Cream is better than milk on this diet because it's lower in carbs. I use

half and half.

When I get hungry and want to snack at night, I eat a bowl of chicken salad,

egg salad, tuna salad, etc. with chopped celery and onions and I have some

tomato or pickles with it.

During the day for snacks, I grab cheese, nuts, carrots, celery, etc.

Turkey slices are a good snack.

Chicken drumsticks are a good snack.

Watch out for coatings of white flour.

Re: High Fat Diet/ and everyone

Hi ,

I got the Broda book yesterday and read the chapter on diet

first. The book seems pretty interesting anyways.

I'm so fascinated with this because I realize that it's the only

diet I've never tried. And why would I? We've been conditioned to

think fat was bad. I've been thinking back to years ago when I was

doing a diet high in carbs, low fat and high protein. I was running

5 miles a week and lifting weights every other day. I barely lost 5

pounds in 8 months. I can't tell you how frustrating it was. And I

think this is when my likely already low thyroid got worse. I

couldn't understand why I would have high cholesterol when doing

this while also consiering my exercising regime.

I'm a bit confused by his percentages groupings of carbs. (5/15/20

% groupings) It would seem the 5% group is the one you can have

more of - correct, as they are lower in carbs? But then avocados

are 5%, but said to be eaten sparingly. I'm confused.

Are you following the diet?

SAMMIE

>

> Sammie:

>

> Now you are talking my language!! I totally agree with your point

about

> cavemen and diet. Do you have the Broda book? He has a

chapter on

> high fat diet and he says the same thing.

>

> I never stopped eating eggs as often as I want and when my

cholesterol went

> up due to the pill, my doctor said that was not linked to the

pill. So I

> stopped eating bacon and eggs, went vegetarian. Guess what, my

cholesterol

> went up and up.

>

> So now I realize the bad guy is refined sugar. Eating natural

foods that

> our ancestors makes sense to me.

>

>

>

> -------Original Message-------

>

>

[Guest guest]

I know bacon and heavy cream has chemicals in it. It seems like everything

out there has chemicals in it so I buy my foods organic. I bought the bacon

that says no coloring or additives. But I am sure that is not true.

-- Re: Re: High Fat Diet/ and everyone

I figure if I don't lose weight by 4 weeks then I will try but you

may be right about the diet industry affecting but bacon and heavy cream

still has chemicals in them. I will keep you all posted of my progress!

jigscam wrote:

I did Atkins for several months to the T. Rosedale is like every

other low carb diet. You shouldn't be scared of saturated fats. There

is no reason to be. That's the diet industry effecting you.

SAMMIE

>

> I don't like saturated fats so I am going to try the Rosedal diet

first. How long were you on his diet and were you strict with it?

>

>

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[Guest guest]

Not all raw bacon is full of nitrates. I buy meat market slab bacon that

states no additives. I buy organic meat. So do you not eat meat or do you

have a source for meat that is not tainted.

-- Re: High Fat Diet/ and everyone

, stick with your plan to try Rosedale. It is NOT like Atkins.

His recommendations make sense because they improve your health, and

the weight just happens to come off as a pleasant side effect. The

reason he doesn't recommend saturated fats is because they increase

insulin resistance, and if you're trying to lose weight, you're trying

to reduce that. ANYONE who is overweight is insulin resistant to some

degree. Here's the reference for those interested.

http://ajpendo.physiology.org/cgi/content/abstract/280/2/E229?ck=nck

Also, bacon is full of nitrites, a known carcinogen. I don't know if

that was common knowledge when Broda wrote his recommended diet

back in the 70s. He also recommended margarine, which we know today is

not good for you. Also, any toxins an animal eats are stored in its

fat. If it was exposed to pesticides, that's where they go, and you

would then consume them too. Today's meat is not like the free-

roaming, grass-eating animals the cavemen ate. They were not that

fatty because they got exercise. Unless you go organic or eat fresh

game type meats, they are caged, fed corn to fatten them, and may be

given antibiotics and hormones.

Good luck with your diet and keep us posted on your progress!

Barb

> >

> > I don't like saturated fats so I am going to try the Rosedal diet

> first. How long were you on his diet and were you strict with it?

> >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

What do you do for constipatio? I only lasted 9 days on Atkins. I thought I

would explode and the headache was terrible. I must confess I don't like red

meat and I guess I would eat just chicken and fish. I do eat grains and I guess

that is bad for us for losing weitht. I try to stay away from the carbs as much

as I can.

I just bought another book on low carb and is better than Atkins so maybe I

can do that one. I just this illness. I have had to give up so much since I got

it.

Bertha

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[Guest guest]

I have never been on Atkins and am not too familiar with it. Is it higher

protein than Broda ? I did not have constipation but I added salads

with bacon bits and cucumbers, carrots, strawberries, bell peppers, celery.

I bought the chopped up celery and bell peppers at the grocery store cause I

was not motivated to eat salads since I do not like them. The premade stuff

helped me eat more veggies.

-- Re: High Fat Diet/ and everyone

What do you do for constipatio? I only lasted 9 days on Atkins. I thought I

would explode and the headache was terrible. I must confess I don't like red

meat and I guess I would eat just chicken and fish. I do eat grains and I

guess that is bad for us for losing weitht. I try to stay away from the

carbs as much as I can.

I just bought another book on low carb and is better than Atkins so maybe I

can do that one. I just this illness. I have had to give up so much since I

got it.

Bertha

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[Guest guest]

I agree that organic is probably always better.

SAMMIE

> >

> > I don't like saturated fats so I am going to try the Rosedal diet

> first. How long were you on his diet and were you strict with it?

> >

> >

>

>

>

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