Guest guest Posted September 6, 2007 Report Share Posted September 6, 2007 Hi , I got the Broda book yesterday and read the chapter on diet first. The book seems pretty interesting anyways. I'm so fascinated with this because I realize that it's the only diet I've never tried. And why would I? We've been conditioned to think fat was bad. I've been thinking back to years ago when I was doing a diet high in carbs, low fat and high protein. I was running 5 miles a week and lifting weights every other day. I barely lost 5 pounds in 8 months. I can't tell you how frustrating it was. And I think this is when my likely already low thyroid got worse. I couldn't understand why I would have high cholesterol when doing this while also consiering my exercising regime. I'm a bit confused by his percentages groupings of carbs. (5/15/20 % groupings) It would seem the 5% group is the one you can have more of - correct, as they are lower in carbs? But then avocados are 5%, but said to be eaten sparingly. I'm confused. Are you following the diet? SAMMIE > > Sammie: > > Now you are talking my language!! I totally agree with your point about > cavemen and diet. Do you have the Broda book? He has a chapter on > high fat diet and he says the same thing. > > I never stopped eating eggs as often as I want and when my cholesterol went > up due to the pill, my doctor said that was not linked to the pill. So I > stopped eating bacon and eggs, went vegetarian. Guess what, my cholesterol > went up and up. > > So now I realize the bad guy is refined sugar. Eating natural foods that > our ancestors makes sense to me. > > > > -------Original Message------- > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 6, 2007 Report Share Posted September 6, 2007 Are you referring to diet high in SATURATED fats or the good UNSATURED fats? I'm about to start the Rosedale diet on Monday. Have either of you tried it? jigscam wrote: Hi , I got the Broda book yesterday and read the chapter on diet first. The book seems pretty interesting anyways. I'm so fascinated with this because I realize that it's the only diet I've never tried. And why would I? We've been conditioned to think fat was bad. I've been thinking back to years ago when I was doing a diet high in carbs, low fat and high protein. I was running 5 miles a week and lifting weights every other day. I barely lost 5 pounds in 8 months. I can't tell you how frustrating it was. And I think this is when my likely already low thyroid got worse. I couldn't understand why I would have high cholesterol when doing this while also consiering my exercising regime. I'm a bit confused by his percentages groupings of carbs. (5/15/20 % groupings) It would seem the 5% group is the one you can have more of - correct, as they are lower in carbs? But then avocados are 5%, but said to be eaten sparingly. I'm confused. Are you following the diet? SAMMIE > > Sammie: > > Now you are talking my language!! I totally agree with your point about > cavemen and diet. Do you have the Broda book? He has a chapter on > high fat diet and he says the same thing. > > I never stopped eating eggs as often as I want and when my cholesterol went > up due to the pill, my doctor said that was not linked to the pill. So I > stopped eating bacon and eggs, went vegetarian. Guess what, my cholesterol > went up and up. > > So now I realize the bad guy is refined sugar. Eating natural foods that > our ancestors makes sense to me. > > > > -------Original Message------- > > --------------------------------- Yahoo! oneSearch: Finally, mobile search that gives answers, not web links. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 6, 2007 Report Share Posted September 6, 2007 I have tried the Rosedale diet now for 2 weeks and prefer diet. Cheese helps me alot. -- Re: Re: High Fat Diet/ and everyone Are you referring to diet high in SATURATED fats or the good UNSATURED fats? I'm about to start the Rosedale diet on Monday. Have either of you tried it? jigscam wrote: Hi , I got the Broda book yesterday and read the chapter on diet first. The book seems pretty interesting anyways. I'm so fascinated with this because I realize that it's the only diet I've never tried. And why would I? We've been conditioned to think fat was bad. I've been thinking back to years ago when I was doing a diet high in carbs, low fat and high protein. I was running 5 miles a week and lifting weights every other day. I barely lost 5 pounds in 8 months. I can't tell you how frustrating it was. And I think this is when my likely already low thyroid got worse. I couldn't understand why I would have high cholesterol when doing this while also consiering my exercising regime. I'm a bit confused by his percentages groupings of carbs. (5/15/20 % groupings) It would seem the 5% group is the one you can have more of - correct, as they are lower in carbs? But then avocados are 5%, but said to be eaten sparingly. I'm confused. Are you following the diet? SAMMIE > > Sammie: > > Now you are talking my language!! I totally agree with your point about > cavemen and diet. Do you have the Broda book? He has a chapter on > high fat diet and he says the same thing. > > I never stopped eating eggs as often as I want and when my cholesterol went > up due to the pill, my doctor said that was not linked to the pill. So I > stopped eating bacon and eggs, went vegetarian. Guess what, my cholesterol > went up and up. > > So now I realize the bad guy is refined sugar. Eating natural foods that > our ancestors makes sense to me. > > > > -------Original Message------- > > --------------------------------- Yahoo! oneSearch: Finally, mobile search that gives answers, not web links. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 6, 2007 Report Share Posted September 6, 2007 I just try to add as many fats and subtract as many carbs as I can. I have lost another 2 lbs and even added some carbs back but still have not gained weight. I like to have a aslad with all kinds of greens, avocados, olives, tomatoes, cheeses, bacon-not turkey but real bacon, strawberries, various vegs and fruits, for lunch. For breakfast it is bacon or ham or eggs or cheeses. For the salad dressing it is heavy whipping creme with a little olive oil and balsamic vinegar. The vinegar makes it thick and better than salad dressings. I eat a lot of watermelon. I eat any meats I want. -- Re: Re: High Fat Diet/ and everyone Are you referring to diet high in SATURATED fats or the good UNSATURED fats? I'm about to start the Rosedale diet on Monday. Have either of you tried it? jigscam wrote: Hi , I got the Broda book yesterday and read the chapter on diet first. The book seems pretty interesting anyways. I'm so fascinated with this because I realize that it's the only diet I've never tried. And why would I? We've been conditioned to think fat was bad. I've been thinking back to years ago when I was doing a diet high in carbs, low fat and high protein. I was running 5 miles a week and lifting weights every other day. I barely lost 5 pounds in 8 months. I can't tell you how frustrating it was. And I think this is when my likely already low thyroid got worse. I couldn't understand why I would have high cholesterol when doing this while also consiering my exercising regime. I'm a bit confused by his percentages groupings of carbs. (5/15/20 % groupings) It would seem the 5% group is the one you can have more of - correct, as they are lower in carbs? But then avocados are 5%, but said to be eaten sparingly. I'm confused. Are you following the diet? SAMMIE > > Sammie: > > Now you are talking my language!! I totally agree with your point about > cavemen and diet. Do you have the Broda book? He has a chapter on > high fat diet and he says the same thing. > > I never stopped eating eggs as often as I want and when my cholesterol went > up due to the pill, my doctor said that was not linked to the pill. So I > stopped eating bacon and eggs, went vegetarian. Guess what, my cholesterol > went up and up. > > So now I realize the bad guy is refined sugar. Eating natural foods that > our ancestors makes sense to me. > > > > -------Original Message------- > > --------------------------------- Yahoo! oneSearch: Finally, mobile search that gives answers, not web links. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 6, 2007 Report Share Posted September 6, 2007 Sammie: I followed the diet the first month. I drank the eggnog concoction when I wanted a snack, with the egg in it. Now I still eat cheese and heaving whipping cream in my coffee, yogart and salads. I eliminated bread except for special ocassions. But if I eat bread it makes me crave it. And I eat ice cream every night and have not gained weight. Lost 12 lbs total. I know the ice cream has carbs but since I got most of the weight off I am taking a break. When I want to lose the next 5 lbs I will drop the ice cream to every 3rd night, lol! -- Re: High Fat Diet/ and everyone Hi , I got the Broda book yesterday and read the chapter on diet first. The book seems pretty interesting anyways. I'm so fascinated with this because I realize that it's the only diet I've never tried. And why would I? We've been conditioned to think fat was bad. I've been thinking back to years ago when I was doing a diet high in carbs, low fat and high protein. I was running 5 miles a week and lifting weights every other day. I barely lost 5 pounds in 8 months. I can't tell you how frustrating it was. And I think this is when my likely already low thyroid got worse. I couldn't understand why I would have high cholesterol when doing this while also consiering my exercising regime. I'm a bit confused by his percentages groupings of carbs. (5/15/20 % groupings) It would seem the 5% group is the one you can have more of - correct, as they are lower in carbs? But then avocados are 5%, but said to be eaten sparingly. I'm confused. Are you following the diet? SAMMIE > > Sammie: > > Now you are talking my language!! I totally agree with your point about > cavemen and diet. Do you have the Broda book? He has a chapter on > high fat diet and he says the same thing. > > I never stopped eating eggs as often as I want and when my cholesterol went > up due to the pill, my doctor said that was not linked to the pill. So I > stopped eating bacon and eggs, went vegetarian. Guess what, my cholesterol > went up and up. > > So now I realize the bad guy is refined sugar. Eating natural foods that > our ancestors makes sense to me. > > > > -------Original Message------- > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 6, 2007 Report Share Posted September 6, 2007 This low carb diet is the only diet I have ever lost weight on. If you stick to it and don't cheat at all, the weight usually melts right off and pretty fast too. As far as I am concerned, we are a carb laden society and I think the carbs are responsible for most of the obesity in this country. The other thing I like about this way of eating is that you can eat as much as you want and never have to deprive yourself. The first time I did this diet I lost 40 lbs. in 2 months. I eat the following unlimited: Fish Chicken Beef Turkey Pork (But I don't like pork) Eggs Cheese (I limit cheese to goat cheese) but a couple of slices or cubes each day of any cheese is fine Fats unlimited: Mayo (I buy it from the health food store) olive oil Butter All low starch veggies Nuts (for snacks) but you must limit these due to carb content. Peanuts and macadamias, walnuts, almonds, cashews. I eat no fruit no sugar or foods that contain sugar I use sweet and low in coffee but you can use stevia if you like Aspartame is very BAD for us Some people can eat a bit of whole grain each day, e.g. 1 slice whole grain bread or 1 small cup whole grain cereal. Cream is better than milk on this diet because it's lower in carbs. I use half and half. When I get hungry and want to snack at night, I eat a bowl of chicken salad, egg salad, tuna salad, etc. with chopped celery and onions and I have some tomato or pickles with it. During the day for snacks, I grab cheese, nuts, carrots, celery, etc. Turkey slices are a good snack. Chicken drumsticks are a good snack. Watch out for coatings of white flour. Re: High Fat Diet/ and everyone Hi , I got the Broda book yesterday and read the chapter on diet first. The book seems pretty interesting anyways. I'm so fascinated with this because I realize that it's the only diet I've never tried. And why would I? We've been conditioned to think fat was bad. I've been thinking back to years ago when I was doing a diet high in carbs, low fat and high protein. I was running 5 miles a week and lifting weights every other day. I barely lost 5 pounds in 8 months. I can't tell you how frustrating it was. And I think this is when my likely already low thyroid got worse. I couldn't understand why I would have high cholesterol when doing this while also consiering my exercising regime. I'm a bit confused by his percentages groupings of carbs. (5/15/20 % groupings) It would seem the 5% group is the one you can have more of - correct, as they are lower in carbs? But then avocados are 5%, but said to be eaten sparingly. I'm confused. Are you following the diet? SAMMIE > > Sammie: > > Now you are talking my language!! I totally agree with your point about > cavemen and diet. Do you have the Broda book? He has a chapter on > high fat diet and he says the same thing. > > I never stopped eating eggs as often as I want and when my cholesterol went > up due to the pill, my doctor said that was not linked to the pill. So I > stopped eating bacon and eggs, went vegetarian. Guess what, my cholesterol > went up and up. > > So now I realize the bad guy is refined sugar. Eating natural foods that > our ancestors makes sense to me. > > > > -------Original Message------- > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 6, 2007 Report Share Posted September 6, 2007 I bought the Rosedale diet book by accident. I think that's like most low carb diet books - nothing new for me and I was never successful on that diet. I was really impressed to read what Broda wrote about in his book: Hypothyroidism: The Unsuspected Illness and that's what I'm speaking about. The diet is essentially this: 50 grams of carbs, 70 grams ptotein, 90 grams fat (making it essentially a high fat diet) and about 1300 calories He doesn't distinguish between saturated and unsaturated fats, in fact recommends the following standard daily diet: Breakfast: 2 eggs 3 strips ham/bacon/sausage 2 ounces unsweetened juice one serving tea/coffee (with optional cream) Lunch & Dinner: one serving meat/fish/fowl Veggies with butter or oleo Salad with abundance of dressing (assuming high fat/low sugar probably) one serving fresh fruit one serving milk/tea/coffee This might seem similar to South Beach in that fruit is allowed (unlike Atkins), but saturated fat isn't discouraged. If you think back to our caveman days when we did eat saturated fat, one can assume it's not bad. Also, meat eating mammals eat this way and don't have heart attacks or cholesterol issues. It's the combo of sugar/fats that is bad and causes heart disease/high cholesterol. Animal fat isn't bad, though trans fat are. Also, he mentions that this diet doestn' trigger ketosis, like Atkins. I need to detox a bit over the weekend, but I will start it soon. The trick will be going down to 50 carbs daily. That will likely cause some headaches and stir up my candida issues. But maybe not. SAMMIE > > Are you referring to diet high in SATURATED fats or the good UNSATURED fats? I'm about to start the Rosedale diet on Monday. Have either of you tried it? > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 6, 2007 Report Share Posted September 6, 2007 G: Yes, I've tried this diet and didn't cheat. I did it faithfully and lost a bit of water weight but not much, then a month into it I woke up with Grave's eye disease and didn't know what it was. It took me a few months to get to a doc and finally get diagnosed. It's possible that my thyroid was way too low at that time making weight loss impossible or that this isn't the diet for me. I always wondered if the severe carb restriction somehow triggered the Grave's antibodies. I found another girl in the Grave's group that had the exact same experience. It's also possible that the Candida is what is reponsible for triggering the Grave's once I cut back on the carbs and shocked my body. I will never know. At any rate, the fact that this doc that wrote a book about Hypothyroidism and suggests this high fat diet (and the reasons why) makes me believe that this is the one for me. He also is against sugar/carbs, but because fat doesn't trigger glucose, this is probably weigh it's better for HypoT people. Protein and carbs trigger glucose and high protein can cause further thyroid problems. SAMMIE > > This low carb diet is the only diet I have ever lost weight on. If you stick to it and don't cheat at all, the weight usually melts right off and pretty fast too. > > As far as I am concerned, we are a carb laden society and I think the carbs are responsible for most of the obesity in this country. > > The other thing I like about this way of eating is that you can eat as much as you want and never have to deprive yourself. The first time I did this diet I lost 40 lbs. in 2 months. > > I eat the following unlimited: > > Fish > Chicken > Beef > Turkey > Pork (But I don't like pork) > Eggs > Cheese (I limit cheese to goat cheese) > but a couple of slices or cubes each day of any cheese is fine > > Fats unlimited: > > Mayo (I buy it from the health food store) > olive oil > Butter > > All low starch veggies > > Nuts (for snacks) but you must limit these due to carb content. Peanuts and macadamias, walnuts, almonds, cashews. > > I eat no fruit > no sugar or foods that contain sugar > I use sweet and low in coffee but you can use stevia if you like > Aspartame is very BAD for us > > Some people can eat a bit of whole grain each day, e.g. 1 slice whole grain bread > or 1 small cup whole grain cereal. > > Cream is better than milk on this diet because it's lower in carbs. I use half and half. > > When I get hungry and want to snack at night, I eat a bowl of chicken salad, egg salad, tuna salad, etc. with chopped celery and onions and I have some tomato or pickles with it. > > During the day for snacks, I grab cheese, nuts, carrots, celery, etc. > > Turkey slices are a good snack. > > Chicken drumsticks are a good snack. > > Watch out for coatings of white flour. > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 6, 2007 Report Share Posted September 6, 2007 Interesting that Broda is not big on cheese. Did you notice that? He says to eat sparingly. I wonder why. Is it because it's more protein than fat? SAMMIE > > I have tried the Rosedale diet now for 2 weeks and prefer diet. > Cheese helps me alot. > > -------Original Message------- > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 6, 2007 Report Share Posted September 6, 2007 Would you mind giving me that dressing recipe? And is there a difference between heavy cream and heavy whipping cream? I can easily find heavy cream at the store, but maybe this is different. SAMMIE > > I just try to add as many fats and subtract as many carbs as I can. I have > lost another 2 lbs and even added some carbs back but still have not gained > weight. I like to have a aslad with all kinds of greens, avocados, olives, > tomatoes, cheeses, bacon-not turkey but real bacon, strawberries, various > vegs and fruits, for lunch. For breakfast it is bacon or ham or eggs or > cheeses. > > For the salad dressing it is heavy whipping creme with a little olive oil > and balsamic vinegar. The vinegar makes it thick and better than salad > dressings. I eat a lot of watermelon. > > I eat any meats I want. > > -------Original Message------- > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 6, 2007 Report Share Posted September 6, 2007 I don't like saturated fats so I am going to try the Rosedal diet first. How long were you on his diet and were you strict with it? jigscam wrote: I bought the Rosedale diet book by accident. I think that's like most low carb diet books - nothing new for me and I was never successful on that diet. I was really impressed to read what Broda wrote about in his book: Hypothyroidism: The Unsuspected Illness and that's what I'm speaking about. The diet is essentially this: 50 grams of carbs, 70 grams ptotein, 90 grams fat (making it essentially a high fat diet) and about 1300 calories He doesn't distinguish between saturated and unsaturated fats, in fact recommends the following standard daily diet: Breakfast: 2 eggs 3 strips ham/bacon/sausage 2 ounces unsweetened juice one serving tea/coffee (with optional cream) Lunch & Dinner: one serving meat/fish/fowl Veggies with butter or oleo Salad with abundance of dressing (assuming high fat/low sugar probably) one serving fresh fruit one serving milk/tea/coffee This might seem similar to South Beach in that fruit is allowed (unlike Atkins), but saturated fat isn't discouraged. If you think back to our caveman days when we did eat saturated fat, one can assume it's not bad. Also, meat eating mammals eat this way and don't have heart attacks or cholesterol issues. It's the combo of sugar/fats that is bad and causes heart disease/high cholesterol. Animal fat isn't bad, though trans fat are. Also, he mentions that this diet doestn' trigger ketosis, like Atkins. I need to detox a bit over the weekend, but I will start it soon. The trick will be going down to 50 carbs daily. That will likely cause some headaches and stir up my candida issues. But maybe not. SAMMIE > > Are you referring to diet high in SATURATED fats or the good UNSATURED fats? I'm about to start the Rosedale diet on Monday. Have either of you tried it? > > --------------------------------- Moody friends. Drama queens. Your life? Nope! - their life, your story. Play Sims Stories at Yahoo! Games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 6, 2007 Report Share Posted September 6, 2007 I did Atkins for several months to the T. Rosedale is like every other low carb diet. You shouldn't be scared of saturated fats. There is no reason to be. That's the diet industry effecting you. SAMMIE > > I don't like saturated fats so I am going to try the Rosedal diet first. How long were you on his diet and were you strict with it? > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 6, 2007 Report Share Posted September 6, 2007 While dairy has protein, it also has saturated fat, where chemical toxins from the animal are stored. It also has no fiber. In addition, American milk is full of hormones, antibiotics, and pesticide residue. Half the world is lactose intolerant, which indicates that milk is really for baby cows, not humans. However, cheese does taste good, so use it sparingly to flavor food, not as a major food source. My favorite snack: thin slice of mozzarella topped with fresh tomato and basil, then drizzled with Goya extra virgin olive oil and salt. Favorite breakfast from Rosedale: two poached eggs over the tomato, basil, and olive oil, then sprinkled with garlic salt and parmesan cheese. Ummmm! > > > > I have tried the Rosedale diet now for 2 weeks and prefer > diet. > > Cheese helps me alot. > > > > -------Original Message------- > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 6, 2007 Report Share Posted September 6, 2007 I used raw milk cheese from Whole Foods. Milk fat is good for infants and my mom swears by raw milk. -- Re: Re: High Fat Diet/ and everyone You're making me hungry and I've got none of that cheese in the house but we ve got plenty of tomatoes from our garden....LOL Re: High Fat Diet/ and everyone While dairy has protein, it also has saturated fat, where chemical toxins from the animal are stored. It also has no fiber. In addition, American milk is full of hormones, antibiotics, and pesticide residue. Half the world is lactose intolerant, which indicates that milk is really for baby cows, not humans. However, cheese does taste good, so use it sparingly to flavor food, not as a major food source. My favorite snack: thin slice of mozzarella topped with fresh tomato and basil, then drizzled with Goya extra virgin olive oil and salt. Favorite breakfast from Rosedale: two poached eggs over the tomato, basil, and olive oil, then sprinkled with garlic salt and parmesan cheese. Ummmm! > > > > I have tried the Rosedale diet now for 2 weeks and prefer > diet. > > Cheese helps me alot. > > > > -------Original Message------- > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 6, 2007 Report Share Posted September 6, 2007 Ditto. I agree with milk being destroyed by the pasteurization process and with the toxins. SO if one can get organic, raw milk, as some farms can sell it for animal consumption but for humans it has to be pumped full of chemicals, well, I would love to have a good supply. -- Re: High Fat Diet/ and everyone I did Atkins for several months to the T. Rosedale is like every other low carb diet. You shouldn't be scared of saturated fats. There is no reason to be. That's the diet industry effecting you. SAMMIE > > I don't like saturated fats so I am going to try the Rosedal diet first. How long were you on his diet and were you strict with it? > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 6, 2007 Report Share Posted September 6, 2007 With my very high fiber diet that I posted today, with plenty of salad, vegs fruits, nuts, I do not need additional fiber from milk. That breakfast sounds good. I love my bacon in the morning several days a week. -- Re: High Fat Diet/ and everyone While dairy has protein, it also has saturated fat, where chemical toxins from the animal are stored. It also has no fiber. In addition, American milk is full of hormones, antibiotics, and pesticide residue. Half the world is lactose intolerant, which indicates that milk is really for baby cows, not humans. However, cheese does taste good, so use it sparingly to flavor food, not as a major food source. My favorite snack: thin slice of mozzarella topped with fresh tomato and basil, then drizzled with Goya extra virgin olive oil and salt. Favorite breakfast from Rosedale: two poached eggs over the tomato, basil, and olive oil, then sprinkled with garlic salt and parmesan cheese. Ummmm! > > > > I have tried the Rosedale diet now for 2 weeks and prefer > diet. > > Cheese helps me alot. > > > > -------Original Message------- > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 6, 2007 Report Share Posted September 6, 2007 I make my salad then pour however much heavy whipping cream I want to use. I then toss a little olive oil just in case I need that kind of fat, then I pour balsamic vinegar over it and in a minute it thickens the cream and it is a fluffy delicious dressing. You can add seasonings to it but it is so good I just use it alone over my salads with no seasonings. -- Re: High Fat Diet/ and everyone Would you mind giving me that dressing recipe? And is there a difference between heavy cream and heavy whipping cream? I can easily find heavy cream at the store, but maybe this is different. SAMMIE > > I just try to add as many fats and subtract as many carbs as I can. I have > lost another 2 lbs and even added some carbs back but still have not gained > weight. I like to have a aslad with all kinds of greens, avocados, olives, > tomatoes, cheeses, bacon-not turkey but real bacon, strawberries, various > vegs and fruits, for lunch. For breakfast it is bacon or ham or eggs or > cheeses. > > For the salad dressing it is heavy whipping creme with a little olive oil > and balsamic vinegar. The vinegar makes it thick and better than salad > dressings. I eat a lot of watermelon. > > I eat any meats I want. > > -------Original Message------- > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 6, 2007 Report Share Posted September 6, 2007 I will have to look at that again. I thought he said cottege cheese was good. I do have the 1976 edition and don't know if there is a newer edition with a changes in the diet. -- Re: High Fat Diet/ and everyone Interesting that Broda is not big on cheese. Did you notice that? He says to eat sparingly. I wonder why. Is it because it's more protein than fat? SAMMIE > > I have tried the Rosedale diet now for 2 weeks and prefer diet. > Cheese helps me alot. > > -------Original Message------- > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 6, 2007 Report Share Posted September 6, 2007 Sammie: When you try it let me know how it goes. Into the second week I had to cut my T3 meds in half and stayed at a half dose until I started adding back carbs, and I had to up my T3 a little. I still am not at the dose I had to have on high protein. That taught me that high protein is not great for me. -- Re: High Fat Diet/ and everyone G: Yes, I've tried this diet and didn't cheat. I did it faithfully and lost a bit of water weight but not much, then a month into it I woke up with Grave's eye disease and didn't know what it was. It took me a few months to get to a doc and finally get diagnosed. It's possible that my thyroid was way too low at that time making weight loss impossible or that this isn't the diet for me. I always wondered if the severe carb restriction somehow triggered the Grave's antibodies. I found another girl in the Grave's group that had the exact same experience. It's also possible that the Candida is what is reponsible for triggering the Grave's once I cut back on the carbs and shocked my body. I will never know. At any rate, the fact that this doc that wrote a book about Hypothyroidism and suggests this high fat diet (and the reasons why) makes me believe that this is the one for me. He also is against sugar/carbs, but because fat doesn't trigger glucose, this is probably weigh it's better for HypoT people. Protein and carbs trigger glucose and high protein can cause further thyroid problems. SAMMIE > > This low carb diet is the only diet I have ever lost weight on. If you stick to it and don't cheat at all, the weight usually melts right off and pretty fast too. > > As far as I am concerned, we are a carb laden society and I think the carbs are responsible for most of the obesity in this country. > > The other thing I like about this way of eating is that you can eat as much as you want and never have to deprive yourself. The first time I did this diet I lost 40 lbs. in 2 months. > > I eat the following unlimited: > > Fish > Chicken > Beef > Turkey > Pork (But I don't like pork) > Eggs > Cheese (I limit cheese to goat cheese) > but a couple of slices or cubes each day of any cheese is fine > > Fats unlimited: > > Mayo (I buy it from the health food store) > olive oil > Butter > > All low starch veggies > > Nuts (for snacks) but you must limit these due to carb content. Peanuts and macadamias, walnuts, almonds, cashews. > > I eat no fruit > no sugar or foods that contain sugar > I use sweet and low in coffee but you can use stevia if you like > Aspartame is very BAD for us > > Some people can eat a bit of whole grain each day, e.g. 1 slice whole grain bread > or 1 small cup whole grain cereal. > > Cream is better than milk on this diet because it's lower in carbs. I use half and half. > > When I get hungry and want to snack at night, I eat a bowl of chicken salad, egg salad, tuna salad, etc. with chopped celery and onions and I have some tomato or pickles with it. > > During the day for snacks, I grab cheese, nuts, carrots, celery, etc. > > Turkey slices are a good snack. > > Chicken drumsticks are a good snack. > > Watch out for coatings of white flour. > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 6, 2007 Report Share Posted September 6, 2007 I am gonna save this diet for hints when I am too tired to think. Thanks! -- Re: Re: High Fat Diet/ and everyone This low carb diet is the only diet I have ever lost weight on. If you stick to it and don't cheat at all, the weight usually melts right off and pretty fast too. As far as I am concerned, we are a carb laden society and I think the carbs are responsible for most of the obesity in this country. The other thing I like about this way of eating is that you can eat as much as you want and never have to deprive yourself. The first time I did this diet I lost 40 lbs. in 2 months. I eat the following unlimited: Fish Chicken Beef Turkey Pork (But I don't like pork) Eggs Cheese (I limit cheese to goat cheese) but a couple of slices or cubes each day of any cheese is fine Fats unlimited: Mayo (I buy it from the health food store) olive oil Butter All low starch veggies Nuts (for snacks) but you must limit these due to carb content. Peanuts and macadamias, walnuts, almonds, cashews. I eat no fruit no sugar or foods that contain sugar I use sweet and low in coffee but you can use stevia if you like Aspartame is very BAD for us Some people can eat a bit of whole grain each day, e.g. 1 slice whole grain bread or 1 small cup whole grain cereal. Cream is better than milk on this diet because it's lower in carbs. I use half and half. When I get hungry and want to snack at night, I eat a bowl of chicken salad, egg salad, tuna salad, etc. with chopped celery and onions and I have some tomato or pickles with it. During the day for snacks, I grab cheese, nuts, carrots, celery, etc. Turkey slices are a good snack. Chicken drumsticks are a good snack. Watch out for coatings of white flour. Re: High Fat Diet/ and everyone Hi , I got the Broda book yesterday and read the chapter on diet first. The book seems pretty interesting anyways. I'm so fascinated with this because I realize that it's the only diet I've never tried. And why would I? We've been conditioned to think fat was bad. I've been thinking back to years ago when I was doing a diet high in carbs, low fat and high protein. I was running 5 miles a week and lifting weights every other day. I barely lost 5 pounds in 8 months. I can't tell you how frustrating it was. And I think this is when my likely already low thyroid got worse. I couldn't understand why I would have high cholesterol when doing this while also consiering my exercising regime. I'm a bit confused by his percentages groupings of carbs. (5/15/20 % groupings) It would seem the 5% group is the one you can have more of - correct, as they are lower in carbs? But then avocados are 5%, but said to be eaten sparingly. I'm confused. Are you following the diet? SAMMIE > > Sammie: > > Now you are talking my language!! I totally agree with your point about > cavemen and diet. Do you have the Broda book? He has a chapter on > high fat diet and he says the same thing. > > I never stopped eating eggs as often as I want and when my cholesterol went > up due to the pill, my doctor said that was not linked to the pill. So I > stopped eating bacon and eggs, went vegetarian. Guess what, my cholesterol > went up and up. > > So now I realize the bad guy is refined sugar. Eating natural foods that > our ancestors makes sense to me. > > > > -------Original Message------- > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 6, 2007 Report Share Posted September 6, 2007 I know bacon and heavy cream has chemicals in it. It seems like everything out there has chemicals in it so I buy my foods organic. I bought the bacon that says no coloring or additives. But I am sure that is not true. -- Re: Re: High Fat Diet/ and everyone I figure if I don't lose weight by 4 weeks then I will try but you may be right about the diet industry affecting but bacon and heavy cream still has chemicals in them. I will keep you all posted of my progress! jigscam wrote: I did Atkins for several months to the T. Rosedale is like every other low carb diet. You shouldn't be scared of saturated fats. There is no reason to be. That's the diet industry effecting you. SAMMIE > > I don't like saturated fats so I am going to try the Rosedal diet first. How long were you on his diet and were you strict with it? > > --------------------------------- Moody friends. Drama queens. Your life? Nope! - their life, your story. Play Sims Stories at Yahoo! Games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 6, 2007 Report Share Posted September 6, 2007 Not all raw bacon is full of nitrates. I buy meat market slab bacon that states no additives. I buy organic meat. So do you not eat meat or do you have a source for meat that is not tainted. -- Re: High Fat Diet/ and everyone , stick with your plan to try Rosedale. It is NOT like Atkins. His recommendations make sense because they improve your health, and the weight just happens to come off as a pleasant side effect. The reason he doesn't recommend saturated fats is because they increase insulin resistance, and if you're trying to lose weight, you're trying to reduce that. ANYONE who is overweight is insulin resistant to some degree. Here's the reference for those interested. http://ajpendo.physiology.org/cgi/content/abstract/280/2/E229?ck=nck Also, bacon is full of nitrites, a known carcinogen. I don't know if that was common knowledge when Broda wrote his recommended diet back in the 70s. He also recommended margarine, which we know today is not good for you. Also, any toxins an animal eats are stored in its fat. If it was exposed to pesticides, that's where they go, and you would then consume them too. Today's meat is not like the free- roaming, grass-eating animals the cavemen ate. They were not that fatty because they got exercise. Unless you go organic or eat fresh game type meats, they are caged, fed corn to fatten them, and may be given antibiotics and hormones. Good luck with your diet and keep us posted on your progress! Barb > > > > I don't like saturated fats so I am going to try the Rosedal diet > first. How long were you on his diet and were you strict with it? > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 6, 2007 Report Share Posted September 6, 2007 What do you do for constipatio? I only lasted 9 days on Atkins. I thought I would explode and the headache was terrible. I must confess I don't like red meat and I guess I would eat just chicken and fish. I do eat grains and I guess that is bad for us for losing weitht. I try to stay away from the carbs as much as I can. I just bought another book on low carb and is better than Atkins so maybe I can do that one. I just this illness. I have had to give up so much since I got it. Bertha --------------------------------- Choose the right car based on your needs. Check out Yahoo! Autos new Car Finder tool. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 6, 2007 Report Share Posted September 6, 2007 I have never been on Atkins and am not too familiar with it. Is it higher protein than Broda ? I did not have constipation but I added salads with bacon bits and cucumbers, carrots, strawberries, bell peppers, celery. I bought the chopped up celery and bell peppers at the grocery store cause I was not motivated to eat salads since I do not like them. The premade stuff helped me eat more veggies. -- Re: High Fat Diet/ and everyone What do you do for constipatio? I only lasted 9 days on Atkins. I thought I would explode and the headache was terrible. I must confess I don't like red meat and I guess I would eat just chicken and fish. I do eat grains and I guess that is bad for us for losing weitht. I try to stay away from the carbs as much as I can. I just bought another book on low carb and is better than Atkins so maybe I can do that one. I just this illness. I have had to give up so much since I got it. Bertha --------------------------------- Choose the right car based on your needs. Check out Yahoo! Autos new Car Finder tool. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 6, 2007 Report Share Posted September 6, 2007 I agree that organic is probably always better. SAMMIE > > > > I don't like saturated fats so I am going to try the Rosedal diet > first. How long were you on his diet and were you strict with it? > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > Moody friends. Drama queens. Your life? Nope! - their life, your story. > Play Sims Stories at Yahoo! Games. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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