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A two hour post prandial bs of 120 or lower is the goal you should strive to

achieve. If you maintain this measure daily for three months your A1C will

probably be 5.5 or lower. An A1C of 5.5 and lower will practically

eliminate complications caused by diabetes. In fact an A1C nearer the

normal A1C between 4.2-5.2 is an excellent way to stop the progression of

present diabetic complications, and in many cases reverse some of them. If

a diabetic is loosing vision due to diabetes, this level of A1C's may stop

the progression of vision loss altogether. Unfortunately, if a person is

already blind due to diabetes, I don't believe the vision can be restored,

but it can certainly prevent the development of other serious complications

like heart trouble, kidney trouble, impotence, and many others too numerous

to count here. Carb counting is the way to go, and a carb count guide is

available from us at your request. This carb counting guide was developed

by a fellow list member Dean Masters.

If your two hour post prandial bs level is above 120, it is most likely due

to the consumption of too many grams of carbs, total grams of carbs that is.

The preceeding statements were made by a bonifide sugar addict.

Yours truly,

Harry

new member,

>

> I'm Shields and I'm a new member to this list. I was just diagnosed

> about 2 months ago with type 2 diabetes. Yeah it's been an adjustment.

> No

> more eating those huge boles of Ice-cream I love so much. I've lost about

> 15 pounds so far, and I've just started using the acucheck voicemate

> glukometer. My sugar's run around 133. I realize that's a little high,

> but

> the doctor says I'm making progress. I'm on glukophage and lucinapril.

> I'm

> from Colorado Springs, but now live in New Brighton, PA. I decided to

> make

> a major life change after a real nasty divorce. I went in to be checked

> for

> an upper respiratory virus I couldn't seem to shake. After a Euren check,

> that's how they found the diabetes. I still didn't believe it so they did

> the sugar check and it was 319. Well I was convinced, and have begun

> taking

> my meds, and doing what ever else I can to take control of this disease.

> Take care.

>

>

>

> If I was as sure of God as I am about the ground beneath my feet, how

> often

> would I think of God?

>

>

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Wow, that brings back some great memories. I use to eat on average at least

one half gallon of ice cream each week, and often I would eat two half

gallons of the stuff. Of course I would wind down by eating a couple of

candy bars like butterfingers and a BabeRuth along with a couple of beers or

regular Cokes almost daily. My favorite time to eat ice cream was at night

while watching television. My favorite ice cream was Toasted English walnut

with a lot of chocolate syrupe on it. Needless to say, I don't do any of

that any more. I am still busy paying the price for being a sugar addict.

I can relate, since I had one nasty divorce, and it was definitely a mind

bender.

new member,

> I'm Shields and I'm a new member to this list. I was just diagnosed

> about 2 months ago with type 2 diabetes. Yeah it's been an adjustment.

> No more eating those huge boles of Ice-cream I love so much. I've lost

> about 15 pounds so far, and I've just started using the acucheck voicemate

> glukometer. My sugar's run around 133. I realize that's a little high,

> but the doctor says I'm making progress. I'm on glukophage and

> lucinapril. I'm from Colorado Springs, but now live in New Brighton, PA.

> I decided to make a major life change after a real nasty divorce. I went

> in to be checked for an upper respiratory virus I couldn't seem to shake.

> After a Euren check, that's how they found the diabetes. I still didn't

> believe it so they did the sugar check and it was 319. Well I was

> convinced, and have begun taking my meds, and doing what ever else I can

> to take control of this disease.

> Take care.

>

>

>

> If I was as sure of God as I am about the ground beneath my feet, how

> often would I think of God?

>

>

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, welcome to this helpful and informative group.

Connie

new member,

> I'm Shields and I'm a new member to this list. I was just diagnosed

> about 2 months ago with type 2 diabetes. Yeah it's been an adjustment.

> No more eating those huge boles of Ice-cream I love so much. I've lost

> about 15 pounds so far, and I've just started using the acucheck voicemate

> glukometer. My sugar's run around 133. I realize that's a little high,

> but the doctor says I'm making progress. I'm on glukophage and

> lucinapril. I'm from Colorado Springs, but now live in New Brighton, PA.

> I decided to make a major life change after a real nasty divorce. I went

> in to be checked for an upper respiratory virus I couldn't seem to shake.

> After a Euren check, that's how they found the diabetes. I still didn't

> believe it so they did the sugar check and it was 319. Well I was

> convinced, and have begun taking my meds, and doing what ever else I can

> to take control of this disease.

> Take care.

>

>

>

> If I was as sure of God as I am about the ground beneath my feet, how

> often would I think of God?

>

>

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Thanks Harry and all the rest of you for this fine welcome.

And yes I'd like the carb counting guide please?

send it to

shoney.dog@....

Yeah Harry that ice-cream was good wasn't it?

Fortunately my heart and kidnies are just fine. When I visited to New

Brighton in October, Lynn my sweety and her daughter checked my sugar and

found that one day it was 148 and the next day it was 132. Lynn suspected I

was diabetic, since that's what her husband passed from 3 years ago. I

returned to Colorado for the last time in late October and told my older

sister that my sugar count was high and that I wanted to have it checked.

All she said was just to continue eating that low fat stuff and I'd be fine.

Well when I was diagnosed with diabetes on my birthday on February 15th,

Lynn wasn't surprised. She thinks I might have had this for at least a

couple of years, but even my new doctor can't say for sure when I contracted

it. And just so you know, I'm a R O P baby, it use to be known as RLF.

Take care.

If I was as sure of God as I am about the ground beneath my feet, how often

would I think of God?

new member,

>>

>> I'm Shields and I'm a new member to this list. I was just

>> diagnosed

>> about 2 months ago with type 2 diabetes. Yeah it's been an adjustment.

>> No

>> more eating those huge boles of Ice-cream I love so much. I've lost

>> about

>> 15 pounds so far, and I've just started using the acucheck voicemate

>> glukometer. My sugar's run around 133. I realize that's a little high,

>> but

>> the doctor says I'm making progress. I'm on glukophage and lucinapril.

>> I'm

>> from Colorado Springs, but now live in New Brighton, PA. I decided to

>> make

>> a major life change after a real nasty divorce. I went in to be checked

>> for

>> an upper respiratory virus I couldn't seem to shake. After a Euren

>> check,

>> that's how they found the diabetes. I still didn't believe it so they

>> did

>> the sugar check and it was 319. Well I was convinced, and have begun

>> taking

>> my meds, and doing what ever else I can to take control of this disease.

>> Take care.

>>

>>

>>

>> If I was as sure of God as I am about the ground beneath my feet, how

>> often

>> would I think of God?

>>

>>

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Connie, thanks for the welcome.

Take care,

If I was as sure of God as I am about the ground beneath my feet, how often

would I think of God?

new member,

>

>

>> I'm Shields and I'm a new member to this list. I was just

>> diagnosed

>> about 2 months ago with type 2 diabetes. Yeah it's been an adjustment.

>> No more eating those huge boles of Ice-cream I love so much. I've lost

>> about 15 pounds so far, and I've just started using the acucheck

>> voicemate

>> glukometer. My sugar's run around 133. I realize that's a little high,

>> but the doctor says I'm making progress. I'm on glukophage and

>> lucinapril. I'm from Colorado Springs, but now live in New Brighton, PA.

>> I decided to make a major life change after a real nasty divorce. I went

>> in to be checked for an upper respiratory virus I couldn't seem to shake.

>> After a Euren check, that's how they found the diabetes. I still didn't

>> believe it so they did the sugar check and it was 319. Well I was

>> convinced, and have begun taking my meds, and doing what ever else I can

>> to take control of this disease.

>> Take care.

>>

>>

>>

>> If I was as sure of God as I am about the ground beneath my feet, how

>> often would I think of God?

>>

>>

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Hi Harry:

Oh boy can I relate to you here. While I never ate gallons of ice cream, and

I never liked beer, I think that I was born a chocoholic and French Fry

addict. I adore cake with fluffy, sugary, buttery frosting, too, all of

which I have given up since my diagnosis back in December.

there are two benefits to my swearing off of regular Pepsi, every kind of

chocolate candy imaginable, baked goods by the truckload and all of those

wonderful carbs. The first is that I am slowly losing some weight that I've

needed to get rid of for years and am not sleeping anywhere from twelve to

sixteen hours in any given day. The second benefit to giving up all of that

food that I love and still crave, some days more than others, is that my

blood sugar has come down and is even more manageable with the help of

medication and my A1C went from a 6.6 back in December to a 5.6 in March.

So, despite the fact that I sat patiently by tonight at dinner while Bob

stuffed himself with a piece of chocolate cake that he ordered for dessert

and nearly drooled, I am seeing the results of my resolve to behave and

leave the goodies for those whose systems can handle them.

Becky and Cassidy, Pilot Dog, Poodle

maddpoodle27@...

new member,

>

>

>> I'm Shields and I'm a new member to this list. I was just

>> diagnosed about 2 months ago with type 2 diabetes. Yeah it's been an

>> adjustment. No more eating those huge boles of Ice-cream I love so much.

>> I've lost about 15 pounds so far, and I've just started using the

>> acucheck voicemate glukometer. My sugar's run around 133. I realize

>> that's a little high, but the doctor says I'm making progress. I'm on

>> glukophage and lucinapril. I'm from Colorado Springs, but now live in

>> New Brighton, PA. I decided to make a major life change after a real

>> nasty divorce. I went in to be checked for an upper respiratory virus I

>> couldn't seem to shake. After a Euren check, that's how they found the

>> diabetes. I still didn't believe it so they did the sugar check and it

>> was 319. Well I was convinced, and have begun taking my meds, and doing

>> what ever else I can to take control of this disease.

>> Take care.

>>

>>

>>

>> If I was as sure of God as I am about the ground beneath my feet, how

>> often would I think of God?

>>

>>

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Becky I still crave the Icecream. I want a bole now as I'm writing this.

If I was as sure of God as I am about the ground beneath my feet, how often

would I think of God?

new member,

>>

>>

>>> I'm Shields and I'm a new member to this list. I was just

>>> diagnosed about 2 months ago with type 2 diabetes. Yeah it's been an

>>> adjustment. No more eating those huge boles of Ice-cream I love so much.

>>> I've lost about 15 pounds so far, and I've just started using the

>>> acucheck voicemate glukometer. My sugar's run around 133. I realize

>>> that's a little high, but the doctor says I'm making progress. I'm on

>>> glukophage and lucinapril. I'm from Colorado Springs, but now live in

>>> New Brighton, PA. I decided to make a major life change after a real

>>> nasty divorce. I went in to be checked for an upper respiratory virus I

>>> couldn't seem to shake. After a Euren check, that's how they found the

>>> diabetes. I still didn't believe it so they did the sugar check and it

>>> was 319. Well I was convinced, and have begun taking my meds, and doing

>>> what ever else I can to take control of this disease.

>>> Take care.

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>> If I was as sure of God as I am about the ground beneath my feet, how

>>> often would I think of God?

>>>

>>>

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I know about RLF, but what does r o p stand for?

The carb counting guide is on its way.

Every body talks about low fat diets, but to a diabetic knowing the carb

count is more important. Insulin works on carbs, not fat and not protein.

I was diagnosed as a diabetic following my first heart attack in 1987. My

cardiologist was right about one thing. He told me not to eat more than two

ounces of fat at a single meal. He was right about the two ounces, but he

should have said no more than two ounces of carbs at a single meal. The

carbs consumed affects your lipid levels more so than the fat consumed.

new member,

>>>

>>> I'm Shields and I'm a new member to this list. I was just

>>> diagnosed

>>> about 2 months ago with type 2 diabetes. Yeah it's been an adjustment.

>>> No

>>> more eating those huge boles of Ice-cream I love so much. I've lost

>>> about

>>> 15 pounds so far, and I've just started using the acucheck voicemate

>>> glukometer. My sugar's run around 133. I realize that's a little high,

>>> but

>>> the doctor says I'm making progress. I'm on glukophage and lucinapril.

>>> I'm

>>> from Colorado Springs, but now live in New Brighton, PA. I decided to

>>> make

>>> a major life change after a real nasty divorce. I went in to be checked

>>> for

>>> an upper respiratory virus I couldn't seem to shake. After a Euren

>>> check,

>>> that's how they found the diabetes. I still didn't believe it so they

>>> did

>>> the sugar check and it was 319. Well I was convinced, and have begun

>>> taking

>>> my meds, and doing what ever else I can to take control of this disease.

>>> Take care.

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>> If I was as sure of God as I am about the ground beneath my feet, how

>>> often

>>> would I think of God?

>>>

>>>

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Me, too! I still have ice cream, but not very much and I eat it

infrequently. I still crave ice cream, cakes, cookies, candy, and just

about all kinds of carbs. I now try to keep my carb consumption to 50 ±10

grams per day, not per meal with some ocasional splurges like today at

lunch, I had a small bowl of vanilla ice cream with some fresh strawberries

on it. Of course since I inject Humalog insulin, this required me to use a

lot more insulin today to cover the carbs consumed. I definitely do not

recommend this as a habit.

new member,

>>>

>>>

>>>> I'm Shields and I'm a new member to this list. I was just

>>>> diagnosed about 2 months ago with type 2 diabetes. Yeah it's been an

>>>> adjustment. No more eating those huge boles of Ice-cream I love so

>>>> much.

>>>> I've lost about 15 pounds so far, and I've just started using the

>>>> acucheck voicemate glukometer. My sugar's run around 133. I realize

>>>> that's a little high, but the doctor says I'm making progress. I'm on

>>>> glukophage and lucinapril. I'm from Colorado Springs, but now live in

>>>> New Brighton, PA. I decided to make a major life change after a real

>>>> nasty divorce. I went in to be checked for an upper respiratory virus

>>>> I

>>>> couldn't seem to shake. After a Euren check, that's how they found the

>>>> diabetes. I still didn't believe it so they did the sugar check and it

>>>> was 319. Well I was convinced, and have begun taking my meds, and

>>>> doing

>>>> what ever else I can to take control of this disease.

>>>> Take care.

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>

>>>> If I was as sure of God as I am about the ground beneath my feet, how

>>>> often would I think of God?

>>>>

>>>>

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Hey Becky,

Way to go! I like to see that A1C reading and the great progress you have

made in bringing that high A1C down to something more reasonable. Keep up

the good stuff.

new member,

>>

>>

>>> I'm Shields and I'm a new member to this list. I was just

>>> diagnosed about 2 months ago with type 2 diabetes. Yeah it's been an

>>> adjustment. No more eating those huge boles of Ice-cream I love so much.

>>> I've lost about 15 pounds so far, and I've just started using the

>>> acucheck voicemate glukometer. My sugar's run around 133. I realize

>>> that's a little high, but the doctor says I'm making progress. I'm on

>>> glukophage and lucinapril. I'm from Colorado Springs, but now live in

>>> New Brighton, PA. I decided to make a major life change after a real

>>> nasty divorce. I went in to be checked for an upper respiratory virus I

>>> couldn't seem to shake. After a Euren check, that's how they found the

>>> diabetes. I still didn't believe it so they did the sugar check and it

>>> was 319. Well I was convinced, and have begun taking my meds, and doing

>>> what ever else I can to take control of this disease.

>>> Take care.

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>> If I was as sure of God as I am about the ground beneath my feet, how

>>> often would I think of God?

>>>

>>>

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Yup Harry, as you have said, " big numbers, big mistakes. Little numbers,

little mistakes.. " (ROFL)

It is, however, good to know that you too are subject to the human frailties

as are the rest of us...

You might be interested to know that there are some very good ice creams

with a very low carb count. Next time I am in Wal-Mart I will take a carb

survey of ice cream as I, unfortunately, can not remember the numbers or the

brands.

A regional ice cream shop named Braums does have some delicious ice cream

with a carb coung of 3 grams per half cup. Now I do realize that a half cup

is not a whole lot - but - it is far better than none...

Take care my good friend, Cy, the Ancient Okie...

Re: new member,

Me, too! I still have ice cream, but not very much and I eat it

infrequently. I still crave ice cream, cakes, cookies, candy, and just

about all kinds of carbs. I now try to keep my carb consumption to 50 ±10

grams per day, not per meal with some ocasional splurges like today at

lunch, I had a small bowl of vanilla ice cream with some fresh strawberries

on it. Of course since I inject Humalog insulin, this required me to use a

lot more insulin today to cover the carbs consumed. I definitely do not

recommend this as a habit.

new member,

>>>

>>>

>>>> I'm Shields and I'm a new member to this list. I was just

>>>> diagnosed about 2 months ago with type 2 diabetes. Yeah it's been an

>>>> adjustment. No more eating those huge boles of Ice-cream I love so

>>>> much.

>>>> I've lost about 15 pounds so far, and I've just started using the

>>>> acucheck voicemate glukometer. My sugar's run around 133. I realize

>>>> that's a little high, but the doctor says I'm making progress. I'm on

>>>> glukophage and lucinapril. I'm from Colorado Springs, but now live in

>>>> New Brighton, PA. I decided to make a major life change after a real

>>>> nasty divorce. I went in to be checked for an upper respiratory virus

>>>> I

>>>> couldn't seem to shake. After a Euren check, that's how they found the

>>>> diabetes. I still didn't believe it so they did the sugar check and it

>>>> was 319. Well I was convinced, and have begun taking my meds, and

>>>> doing

>>>> what ever else I can to take control of this disease.

>>>> Take care.

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>

>>>> If I was as sure of God as I am about the ground beneath my feet, how

>>>> often would I think of God?

>>>>

>>>>

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Use a different finger each day. If you test multiple times per day;

puncture different spots on the " finger of the day " .

Mike Freeman

> Thanks everyone for the warm welcome. I've gotten pretty good with checking

> my sugar, but how do you avoid sore fingers? Lolololololollolol.

> I'm not kidding. I use the little one on my right hand, cause it seems to

> bleed easier. But after awhile it's quite sore.

> Thanks in advance.

> Take care,

>

>

> If I was as sure of God as I am about the ground beneath my feet, how often

> would I think of God?

> new member,

>>

>>

>>> I'm Shields and I'm a new member to this list. I was just

>>> diagnosed about 2 months ago with type 2 diabetes. Yeah it's been an

>>> adjustment. No more eating those huge boles of Ice-cream I love so much.

>>> I've lost about 15 pounds so far, and I've just started using the

>>> acucheck voicemate glukometer. My sugar's run around 133. I realize

>>> that's a little high, but the doctor says I'm making progress. I'm on

>>> glukophage and lucinapril. I'm from Colorado Springs, but now live in

>>> New Brighton, PA. I decided to make a major life change after a real

>>> nasty divorce. I went in to be checked for an upper respiratory virus I

>>> couldn't seem to shake. After a Euren check, that's how they found the

>>> diabetes. I still didn't believe it so they did the sugar check and it

>>> was 319. Well I was convinced, and have begun taking my meds, and doing

>>> what ever else I can to take control of this disease.

>>> Take care.

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>> If I was as sure of God as I am about the ground beneath my feet, how

>>> often would I think of God?

>>>

>>>

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I was given this advice by my diabetic nurse, not to use the index finger or

thumb to test your own blood, being that both of these have most of your

sensory nerve endings in the tips of your fingers.

Rowe.

new member,

> >

> >

> >> I'm Shields and I'm a new member to this list. I was just

> >> diagnosed about 2 months ago with type 2 diabetes. Yeah it's been an

> >> adjustment. No more eating those huge boles of Ice-cream I love so

much.

> >> I've lost about 15 pounds so far, and I've just started using the

> >> acucheck voicemate glukometer. My sugar's run around 133. I realize

> >> that's a little high, but the doctor says I'm making progress. I'm on

> >> glukophage and lucinapril. I'm from Colorado Springs, but now live in

> >> New Brighton, PA. I decided to make a major life change after a real

> >> nasty divorce. I went in to be checked for an upper respiratory virus

I

> >> couldn't seem to shake. After a Euren check, that's how they found the

> >> diabetes. I still didn't believe it so they did the sugar check and it

> >> was 319. Well I was convinced, and have begun taking my meds, and

doing

> >> what ever else I can to take control of this disease.

> >> Take care.

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >> If I was as sure of God as I am about the ground beneath my feet, how

> >> often would I think of God?

> >>

> >>

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I agree with Cy for the most part except for his disparagement of " net

carbs " . If you do your own figuring and know from whence the products

came (U.S. and Canada and most of the rest of the world or Europe), net

carbs *do* mean something. Don't trust the package, though -- with the

exception, as I say, of products coming from the E U. For most of the

world, if you take the " total carb " figure from the package, the " carbs

of fiber " figure and subtract the latter from the former, you will get a

" net carb " figure which, in my opinion, indicates fairly accurately the

amount of carbohydrate that will affect your blood glucose level

directly (fiber has an indirect effect to slow down how fast glucose is

absorbed from the small intestine -- that's ani indirect effect in that

fiber is passed through the small intestine without glucose absorption).

On European products, while the packages list both total carbs and carbs

of fiber, the total carbs figure has already had the carbs of fiber

subtracted from it.

Also, according to the American Diabetes Association, a good rule of

thumb for how much glucose will get into your system from sugar alcohols

is to take their carb values and halve them. Add this to the carbs in

the item or meal to get an approximation of the carbs that will affect

you.

There's my $0.02 on the subject.

Mike Freeman

> Hi ,

> Yup, this term " sugar free " is very, very misleading.

> As has pointed out it is the " total " carbs in a product which you

> need to be concerned with. Also, the term " net " carbs is another misleading

> piece of garbage.

> The term " no sugar added " is equally bad as what it actually means is that

> they have not added processed beet or cane sugar. They may well have added

> the sugar alcohols or fructose, sucrose or other " oses " and those things do

> contain carbs.

> The term " dietetic " is easily confused with the term " diabetic " and, my

> friend, they just ain't the same.

> I think you will find this list and the folks on it really helpful.

> They sure helped me get a handle on Diabetes when I hooked up with my wife

> who is a Diabetic.

> Cy, the Ancient Okie...

>

> Re: new member,

>

> I have tried the sides of my fingers, and find that getting blood is a bit

> more difficult than the pads, but since I don't want to have any problems

> reading, than I'll try the sides. And as for carbs, we really try and watch

>

> the carbs. My sweety Lynn Mester really tries to watch what I eat. She

> feels like she's starving me, but I reassure her that this is what I need to

>

> do to control this diabetes. I get so dang hungry at night, I feel like I

> could eat just about anything. I especially like the sugar free stuff, but

> I hear tell that that stuff is loaded with carbs also.

>

>

> If I was as sure of God as I am about the ground beneath my feet, how often

> would I think of God?

> new member,

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>> I'm Shields and I'm a new member to this list. I was just

>>>>> diagnosed about 2 months ago with type 2 diabetes. Yeah it's been an

>>>>> adjustment. No more eating those huge boles of Ice-cream I love so

>>>>> much.

>>>>> I've lost about 15 pounds so far, and I've just started using the

>>>>> acucheck voicemate glukometer. My sugar's run around 133. I realize

>>>>> that's a little high, but the doctor says I'm making progress. I'm on

>>>>> glukophage and lucinapril. I'm from Colorado Springs, but now live in

>>>>> New Brighton, PA. I decided to make a major life change after a real

>>>>> nasty divorce. I went in to be checked for an upper respiratory virus

>>>>> I

>>>>> couldn't seem to shake. After a Euren check, that's how they found the

>>>>> diabetes. I still didn't believe it so they did the sugar check and it

>>>>> was 319. Well I was convinced, and have begun taking my meds, and

>>>>> doing

>>>>> what ever else I can to take control of this disease.

>>>>> Take care.

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>> If I was as sure of God as I am about the ground beneath my feet, how

>>>>> often would I think of God?

>>>>>

>>>>>

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I use the last three fingers on each hand and, since I test four times

per day, I go around the sides of the " finger of the day " for the

various sticks.

Mike

> Hi :

>

> I alternate fingers, eliminating the finger that I use to read Braille with

> in order to try to avoid them becoming sore.

>

> Becky and Cassidy, Pilot Dog, Poodle

> maddpoodle27@...

> new member,

>>>

>>>

>>>> I'm Shields and I'm a new member to this list. I was just

>>>> diagnosed about 2 months ago with type 2 diabetes. Yeah it's been an

>>>> adjustment. No more eating those huge boles of Ice-cream I love so much.

>>>> I've lost about 15 pounds so far, and I've just started using the

>>>> acucheck voicemate glukometer. My sugar's run around 133. I realize

>>>> that's a little high, but the doctor says I'm making progress. I'm on

>>>> glukophage and lucinapril. I'm from Colorado Springs, but now live in

>>>> New Brighton, PA. I decided to make a major life change after a real

>>>> nasty divorce. I went in to be checked for an upper respiratory virus I

>>>> couldn't seem to shake. After a Euren check, that's how they found the

>>>> diabetes. I still didn't believe it so they did the sugar check and it

>>>> was 319. Well I was convinced, and have begun taking my meds, and doing

>>>> what ever else I can to take control of this disease.

>>>> Take care.

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>

>>>> If I was as sure of God as I am about the ground beneath my feet, how

>>>> often would I think of God?

>>>>

>>>>

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:

Icecream is definitely delicious although I'm kinda into brownies

myself.

You may find that as you cut back on the carbs, some of the cravings

will diminish. You may find also that you have to play a few tricks on

yourself such as redirection -- you know, when an adult redirects a

toddler committing a no-no to something else interesting. But I never

had many food cravings so can't truly speak to the issue.

I'm also RLF/ROP and 57 but unlike you and many others on this list, I

crashed into diabetes last year very suddenly and am, believe it or not,

a late-onset Type 1. I told someone that I was glad to have some of the

attributes of youth but would have appreciated a different choice than

Type 1 diabetes. (grin) As the foregoing implies, I'm insulin-dependent

and have been from landing in the hospital!

You'll find much good advice and support here. You won't get people

saying how wonderful it is to eat a steak the size of a postage-stamp;

people really understand. <g>

Mike Freeman

> Becky I still crave the Icecream. I want a bole now as I'm writing this.

>

>

> If I was as sure of God as I am about the ground beneath my feet, how often

> would I think of God?

> new member,

>>>

>>>

>>>> I'm Shields and I'm a new member to this list. I was just

>>>> diagnosed about 2 months ago with type 2 diabetes. Yeah it's been an

>>>> adjustment. No more eating those huge boles of Ice-cream I love so much.

>>>> I've lost about 15 pounds so far, and I've just started using the

>>>> acucheck voicemate glukometer. My sugar's run around 133. I realize

>>>> that's a little high, but the doctor says I'm making progress. I'm on

>>>> glukophage and lucinapril. I'm from Colorado Springs, but now live in

>>>> New Brighton, PA. I decided to make a major life change after a real

>>>> nasty divorce. I went in to be checked for an upper respiratory virus I

>>>> couldn't seem to shake. After a Euren check, that's how they found the

>>>> diabetes. I still didn't believe it so they did the sugar check and it

>>>> was 319. Well I was convinced, and have begun taking my meds, and doing

>>>> what ever else I can to take control of this disease.

>>>> Take care.

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>

>>>> If I was as sure of God as I am about the ground beneath my feet, how

>>>> often would I think of God?

>>>>

>>>>

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ROP -- Retinopathy of Prematurity.

> I know about RLF, but what does r o p stand for?

> The carb counting guide is on its way.

> Every body talks about low fat diets, but to a diabetic knowing the carb

> count is more important. Insulin works on carbs, not fat and not protein.

> I was diagnosed as a diabetic following my first heart attack in 1987. My

> cardiologist was right about one thing. He told me not to eat more than two

> ounces of fat at a single meal. He was right about the two ounces, but he

> should have said no more than two ounces of carbs at a single meal. The

> carbs consumed affects your lipid levels more so than the fat consumed.

> new member,

>>>>

>>>> I'm Shields and I'm a new member to this list. I was just

>>>> diagnosed

>>>> about 2 months ago with type 2 diabetes. Yeah it's been an adjustment.

>>>> No

>>>> more eating those huge boles of Ice-cream I love so much. I've lost

>>>> about

>>>> 15 pounds so far, and I've just started using the acucheck voicemate

>>>> glukometer. My sugar's run around 133. I realize that's a little high,

>>>> but

>>>> the doctor says I'm making progress. I'm on glukophage and lucinapril.

>>>> I'm

>>>> from Colorado Springs, but now live in New Brighton, PA. I decided to

>>>> make

>>>> a major life change after a real nasty divorce. I went in to be checked

>>>> for

>>>> an upper respiratory virus I couldn't seem to shake. After a Euren

>>>> check,

>>>> that's how they found the diabetes. I still didn't believe it so they

>>>> did

>>>> the sugar check and it was 319. Well I was convinced, and have begun

>>>> taking

>>>> my meds, and doing what ever else I can to take control of this disease.

>>>> Take care.

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>

>>>> If I was as sure of God as I am about the ground beneath my feet, how

>>>> often

>>>> would I think of God?

>>>>

>>>>

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Hi Mike,

Well, as has been said before, you learn something every day. I need to

think on what you have said about the European method of noting carbs. I

would tend to agree with you on the fiber. The sugar alcohol and other

" oses " can be a real sleeper though.

Some advertising hypes really do push the " net " carbs to the limit. Best

rule of thumb is to let common sense guide you.

Cy, the Ancient Okie...

Re: new member,

>

> I have tried the sides of my fingers, and find that getting blood is a bit

> more difficult than the pads, but since I don't want to have any problems

> reading, than I'll try the sides. And as for carbs, we really try and

watch

>

> the carbs. My sweety Lynn Mester really tries to watch what I eat. She

> feels like she's starving me, but I reassure her that this is what I need

to

>

> do to control this diabetes. I get so dang hungry at night, I feel like I

> could eat just about anything. I especially like the sugar free stuff,

but

> I hear tell that that stuff is loaded with carbs also.

>

>

> If I was as sure of God as I am about the ground beneath my feet, how

often

> would I think of God?

> new member,

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>> I'm Shields and I'm a new member to this list. I was just

>>>>> diagnosed about 2 months ago with type 2 diabetes. Yeah it's been an

>>>>> adjustment. No more eating those huge boles of Ice-cream I love so

>>>>> much.

>>>>> I've lost about 15 pounds so far, and I've just started using the

>>>>> acucheck voicemate glukometer. My sugar's run around 133. I realize

>>>>> that's a little high, but the doctor says I'm making progress. I'm on

>>>>> glukophage and lucinapril. I'm from Colorado Springs, but now live in

>>>>> New Brighton, PA. I decided to make a major life change after a real

>>>>> nasty divorce. I went in to be checked for an upper respiratory virus

>>>>> I

>>>>> couldn't seem to shake. After a Euren check, that's how they found the

>>>>> diabetes. I still didn't believe it so they did the sugar check and

it

>>>>> was 319. Well I was convinced, and have begun taking my meds, and

>>>>> doing

>>>>> what ever else I can to take control of this disease.

>>>>> Take care.

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>> If I was as sure of God as I am about the ground beneath my feet, how

>>>>> often would I think of God?

>>>>>

>>>>>

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Cy:

This seems to be my day for arguing. YOu say that a half-cup is far

better than none. I'm not so sure. Although I'm lucky enough to be able

to eat a Schwan's Mississippi Mud ice-cream sandwich as a snack (one,

not two as in days of youre), if I want ice-cream, I want Dryers Grand

and a cereal-bowl-full. Otherwise, why bother? <g>

Mike

> Yup Harry, as you have said, " big numbers, big mistakes. Little numbers,

> little mistakes.. " (ROFL)

> It is, however, good to know that you too are subject to the human frailties

> as are the rest of us...

> You might be interested to know that there are some very good ice creams

> with a very low carb count. Next time I am in Wal-Mart I will take a carb

> survey of ice cream as I, unfortunately, can not remember the numbers or the

> brands.

> A regional ice cream shop named Braums does have some delicious ice cream

> with a carb coung of 3 grams per half cup. Now I do realize that a half cup

> is not a whole lot - but - it is far better than none...

> Take care my good friend, Cy, the Ancient Okie...

>

> Re: new member,

>

> Me, too! I still have ice cream, but not very much and I eat it

> infrequently. I still crave ice cream, cakes, cookies, candy, and just

> about all kinds of carbs. I now try to keep my carb consumption to 50 ±10

> grams per day, not per meal with some ocasional splurges like today at

> lunch, I had a small bowl of vanilla ice cream with some fresh strawberries

> on it. Of course since I inject Humalog insulin, this required me to use a

> lot more insulin today to cover the carbs consumed. I definitely do not

> recommend this as a habit.

> new member,

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>> I'm Shields and I'm a new member to this list. I was just

>>>>> diagnosed about 2 months ago with type 2 diabetes. Yeah it's been an

>>>>> adjustment. No more eating those huge boles of Ice-cream I love so

>>>>> much.

>>>>> I've lost about 15 pounds so far, and I've just started using the

>>>>> acucheck voicemate glukometer. My sugar's run around 133. I realize

>>>>> that's a little high, but the doctor says I'm making progress. I'm on

>>>>> glukophage and lucinapril. I'm from Colorado Springs, but now live in

>>>>> New Brighton, PA. I decided to make a major life change after a real

>>>>> nasty divorce. I went in to be checked for an upper respiratory virus

>>>>> I

>>>>> couldn't seem to shake. After a Euren check, that's how they found the

>>>>> diabetes. I still didn't believe it so they did the sugar check and it

>>>>> was 319. Well I was convinced, and have begun taking my meds, and

>>>>> doing

>>>>> what ever else I can to take control of this disease.

>>>>> Take care.

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>> If I was as sure of God as I am about the ground beneath my feet, how

>>>>> often would I think of God?

>>>>>

>>>>>

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Hmmm ... I have a wart on one of my thumbs. Wonder if lancing on it ror

several weeks running would get rid of it? (grin)

Mike

> ,

>

> I was given this advice by my diabetic nurse, not to use the index finger or

> thumb to test your own blood, being that both of these have most of your

> sensory nerve endings in the tips of your fingers.

>

> Rowe.

>

>

> new member,

>>>

>>>

>>>> I'm Shields and I'm a new member to this list. I was just

>>>> diagnosed about 2 months ago with type 2 diabetes. Yeah it's been an

>>>> adjustment. No more eating those huge boles of Ice-cream I love so

> much.

>>>> I've lost about 15 pounds so far, and I've just started using the

>>>> acucheck voicemate glukometer. My sugar's run around 133. I realize

>>>> that's a little high, but the doctor says I'm making progress. I'm on

>>>> glukophage and lucinapril. I'm from Colorado Springs, but now live in

>>>> New Brighton, PA. I decided to make a major life change after a real

>>>> nasty divorce. I went in to be checked for an upper respiratory virus

> I

>>>> couldn't seem to shake. After a Euren check, that's how they found the

>>>> diabetes. I still didn't believe it so they did the sugar check and it

>>>> was 319. Well I was convinced, and have begun taking my meds, and

> doing

>>>> what ever else I can to take control of this disease.

>>>> Take care.

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>

>>>> If I was as sure of God as I am about the ground beneath my feet, how

>>>> often would I think of God?

>>>>

>>>>

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Mike it was good to here from you. And yes, I like the friendships on this

list.

Take care,

If I was as sure of God as I am about the ground beneath my feet, how often

would I think of God?

new member,

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>> I'm Shields and I'm a new member to this list. I was just

>>>>> diagnosed about 2 months ago with type 2 diabetes. Yeah it's been an

>>>>> adjustment. No more eating those huge boles of Ice-cream I love so

>>>>> much.

>>>>> I've lost about 15 pounds so far, and I've just started using the

>>>>> acucheck voicemate glukometer. My sugar's run around 133. I realize

>>>>> that's a little high, but the doctor says I'm making progress. I'm on

>>>>> glukophage and lucinapril. I'm from Colorado Springs, but now live in

>>>>> New Brighton, PA. I decided to make a major life change after a real

>>>>> nasty divorce. I went in to be checked for an upper respiratory virus

>>>>> I

>>>>> couldn't seem to shake. After a Euren check, that's how they found the

>>>>> diabetes. I still didn't believe it so they did the sugar check and

>>>>> it

>>>>> was 319. Well I was convinced, and have begun taking my meds, and

>>>>> doing

>>>>> what ever else I can to take control of this disease.

>>>>> Take care.

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>> If I was as sure of God as I am about the ground beneath my feet, how

>>>>> often would I think of God?

>>>>>

>>>>>

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I use insulin injections to handle carbs consumed. When I dose for net

carbs my bs runs extremely high. When I dose for total carbs I am right on.

new member,

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>> I'm Shields and I'm a new member to this list. I was just

>>>>>> diagnosed about 2 months ago with type 2 diabetes. Yeah it's been an

>>>>>> adjustment. No more eating those huge boles of Ice-cream I love so

>>>>>> much.

>>>>>> I've lost about 15 pounds so far, and I've just started using the

>>>>>> acucheck voicemate glukometer. My sugar's run around 133. I realize

>>>>>> that's a little high, but the doctor says I'm making progress. I'm

>>>>>> on

>>>>>> glukophage and lucinapril. I'm from Colorado Springs, but now live

>>>>>> in

>>>>>> New Brighton, PA. I decided to make a major life change after a real

>>>>>> nasty divorce. I went in to be checked for an upper respiratory

>>>>>> virus

>>>>>> I

>>>>>> couldn't seem to shake. After a Euren check, that's how they found

>>>>>> the

>>>>>> diabetes. I still didn't believe it so they did the sugar check and

> it

>>>>>> was 319. Well I was convinced, and have begun taking my meds, and

>>>>>> doing

>>>>>> what ever else I can to take control of this disease.

>>>>>> Take care.

>>>>>>

>>>>>>

>>>>>>

>>>>>> If I was as sure of God as I am about the ground beneath my feet, how

>>>>>> often would I think of God?

>>>>>>

>>>>>>

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You got that right! When it comes to ice cream a small bowl makes me want a

gallon or two. I am addicted to sugar, and especially ice cream. When it

comes to it, I am just like the alcoholic, who cannot stop at a couple of

snorts of good whiskey, they have to have the whole fifth.

new member,

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>> I'm Shields and I'm a new member to this list. I was just

>>>>> diagnosed about 2 months ago with type 2 diabetes. Yeah it's been an

>>>>> adjustment. No more eating those huge boles of Ice-cream I love so

>>>>> much.

>>>>> I've lost about 15 pounds so far, and I've just started using the

>>>>> acucheck voicemate glukometer. My sugar's run around 133. I realize

>>>>> that's a little high, but the doctor says I'm making progress. I'm on

>>>>> glukophage and lucinapril. I'm from Colorado Springs, but now live in

>>>>> New Brighton, PA. I decided to make a major life change after a real

>>>>> nasty divorce. I went in to be checked for an upper respiratory virus

>>>>> I

>>>>> couldn't seem to shake. After a Euren check, that's how they found the

>>>>> diabetes. I still didn't believe it so they did the sugar check and

>>>>> it

>>>>> was 319. Well I was convinced, and have begun taking my meds, and

>>>>> doing

>>>>> what ever else I can to take control of this disease.

>>>>> Take care.

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>> If I was as sure of God as I am about the ground beneath my feet, how

>>>>> often would I think of God?

>>>>>

>>>>>

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Shows how individual this disease of diabetes really is!

I know this firsthand also as I can eat sandwiches which would sent

to the hospital and she can drink milk in reasonable quantities

and it sends me thru the roof!

Ain't diabetes interesting!

Mike

> I use insulin injections to handle carbs consumed. When I dose for net

> carbs my bs runs extremely high. When I dose for total carbs I am right on.

> new member,

>>>>>>

>>>>>>

>>>>>>> I'm Shields and I'm a new member to this list. I was just

>>>>>>> diagnosed about 2 months ago with type 2 diabetes. Yeah it's been an

>>>>>>> adjustment. No more eating those huge boles of Ice-cream I love so

>>>>>>> much.

>>>>>>> I've lost about 15 pounds so far, and I've just started using the

>>>>>>> acucheck voicemate glukometer. My sugar's run around 133. I realize

>>>>>>> that's a little high, but the doctor says I'm making progress. I'm

>>>>>>> on

>>>>>>> glukophage and lucinapril. I'm from Colorado Springs, but now live

>>>>>>> in

>>>>>>> New Brighton, PA. I decided to make a major life change after a real

>>>>>>> nasty divorce. I went in to be checked for an upper respiratory

>>>>>>> virus

>>>>>>> I

>>>>>>> couldn't seem to shake. After a Euren check, that's how they found

>>>>>>> the

>>>>>>> diabetes. I still didn't believe it so they did the sugar check and

>> it

>>>>>>> was 319. Well I was convinced, and have begun taking my meds, and

>>>>>>> doing

>>>>>>> what ever else I can to take control of this disease.

>>>>>>> Take care.

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> If I was as sure of God as I am about the ground beneath my feet, how

>>>>>>> often would I think of God?

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>

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I rather blew the diet last week on the cruise I as on. I did eat desserts

made w ith Splenda (or so the chef said), but also has a couple of bowls of

frosty freeze chocolate ice cream. Also-much extra insulin!

Re: new member,

Me, too! I still have ice cream, but not very much and I eat it

infrequently. I still crave ice cream, cakes, cookies, candy, and just

about all kinds of carbs. I now try to keep my carb consumption to 50 ±10

grams per day, not per meal with some ocasional splurges like today at

lunch, I had a small bowl of vanilla ice cream with some fresh strawberries

on it. Of course since I inject Humalog insulin, this required me to use a

lot more insulin today to cover the carbs consumed. I definitely do not

recommend this as a habit.

new member,

>>>

>>>

>>>> I'm Shields and I'm a new member to this list. I was just

>>>> diagnosed about 2 months ago with type 2 diabetes. Yeah it's been an

>>>> adjustment. No more eating those huge boles of Ice-cream I love so

>>>> much.

>>>> I've lost about 15 pounds so far, and I've just started using the

>>>> acucheck voicemate glukometer. My sugar's run around 133. I realize

>>>> that's a little high, but the doctor says I'm making progress. I'm on

>>>> glukophage and lucinapril. I'm from Colorado Springs, but now live in

>>>> New Brighton, PA. I decided to make a major life change after a real

>>>> nasty divorce. I went in to be checked for an upper respiratory virus

>>>> I

>>>> couldn't seem to shake. After a Euren check, that's how they found the

>>>> diabetes. I still didn't believe it so they did the sugar check and it

>>>> was 319. Well I was convinced, and have begun taking my meds, and

>>>> doing

>>>> what ever else I can to take control of this disease.

>>>> Take care.

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>

>>>> If I was as sure of God as I am about the ground beneath my feet, how

>>>> often would I think of God?

>>>>

>>>>

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