Re: HELP

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Sounds good to me Rose.

I used to live in Buffalo NY and have spent some time teaching in Hamilton at a

womens healthclub call New Attitude fitness. I now live in the Cleveland Area.

TKOPT

www.tomocklerpt.com

rose wrote:

> Hi Tom-

>

> Thanks for your reply. I will try and get booked in to see a PT who works

> in those areas you covered. Wish me luck, and again, I thank you.

> P.S. I live in Hamilton, Ontario Canada

>

> Rose

>

> ----------

> >

> > To: VulvarDisorders

> > Subject: Re: help

> > Date: Tuesday, December 04, 2001 9:43 AM

> >

> >

> > Tom

> >

> > maybe you could help me: I have lordosis and scoliosis -I guess my pelvis

> is

> > assimetrical because of this.

> >

> > I´ve had pain on contact on the vestibule, hymenal area and urethra for

> 12

> > years now. I always assumed it was due to some infection, alergy or

> > irritation, because it seemed a problem of the mucous membrane, not a

> nerve

> > or muscular pain. But recently there have been discussions suggesting

> that

> > pelvis problems might result in the kind of pain I have.

> >

> > I live in Brazil. Are you aware of any practicioner here who might help

> me?

> >

> > thanks

> >

> >

> > antonia

> >

> >

> >

> > >

> > >Reply-To: VulvarDisorders

> > >To: VulvarDisorders

> > >Subject: Re: help

> > >Date: Mon, 03 Dec 2001 21:57:58 -0500

> > >

> > >Hi Rose,

> > >Yes I am a PT but I aman alternative or non-traditional one.

> > >I was asked to be apart of this list by one of my former patientswh who

> had

> > >intractable pain in the crotch ( medical terms) for 1 and a half years.

>

> > >She did so well that she urged me to add this new approach to the

> > >group for discussion and concideration. I will attatch my very first

> post

> > >to the group for you to review about the musculo skeletal asymmetries

> which

> > >can cause alot of havoc with your pelvis.

> > >I'de have to get my hads on you to see how much of your pain is coming

> from

> > >the pelvic floor muscle but in the meantime ..get on the phone and start

>

> > >calling PT departments.Ask to speek with the director and ask if

> > >they have anyone on staff who is expert in:

> > >MUSCLE ENERGY TECHNIQUE

> > >COUNTERSTRAIN

> > >PELVIC FLOOR DYSFUNCTION.

> > >If the answer is no , ask if he/she is aware of anyone who is. If the

> > >answer is no...keep dialing.

> > >Many of the women on this site have positive experience with PTs in

> their

> > >area so tell us where you live and you will get responses.

> > > As you will reed n my first post, there are some major problems that

> can

> > >occur when the pelvis is asymmetrical and the msucles put preasure on

> the

> > >peudendal nerve and blood vessels. Since the Pubic bone is one point

> > >of attatchment and the Sacrum is the other, dysfunction in the pelvis

> and

> > >sacrum can cause all sorts of problems. Don't expect the average OB or

> > >pain Doc to agree with this mechinism..it is not in their scope of

> > >study...Osteopaths on the other hand my have an inkling but may still

> not

> > >understand much moer than that.

> > >The butt pain with the crotch pain with the leg pain all point to a

> > >msuclulo skeletal problem as part of the problem..maybe the problem in

> > >total.

> > >Watch for the orriginal post...coming soon to a computer near you.

> > >TKOPT

> > >

> > >rose wrote:

> > >

> > > > Hi again,

> > > > Are you a physical therapist? If so, is there anything you can

> > >recommend

> > > > to

> > > > ease my suffering when I sit? What exactly is causing this pain? Is

> it

> > > > nerves being

> > > > pressed or muscle spasm? I teach small children and have to sit at

> my

> > >job

> > > > most of

> > > > the day, please, please help.

> > > >

> > > > Thank you in advance,

> > > >

> > > > Rose

> > > >

> > > > ----------

> > > > >

> > > > > To: VulvarDisorders

> > > > > Subject: Re: help

> > > > > Date: Sunday, December 02, 2001 7:56 PM

> > > > >

> > > > > Hi Rose.

> > > > > Do you have any back, hip, buttock or leg pain? If so, how long

> have

> > >you

> > > > had it?

> > > > > TKOPT

> > > > > www.tomocklerpt.com

> > > > >

> > > > > rose wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > > Hi Anne-

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I have vulvodynia, pain in the vulva, mostly on the right side.

> > > > Sometimes

> > > > > > it's burning, stabbing, raw and I feel it mostly when I'm sitting

>

> > >down.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I've been to 2 gynaecologists who have both told me there is

> nothing

> > > > wrong

> > > > > > with me. I've had numerous tests done, blood, x'rays which

> showed

> > > > muscle

> > > > > > spasm on the rt. pelvic area, ba enema, sigmoidoscopy.

> Everything

> > >is

> > > > > > coming

> > > > > > back normal and I am still suffering.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I'm trying different pain meds, with little relief. I'm trying

> the

> > >low

> > > > > > oxalate with

> > > > > > calcium/citrate supplement and am trying estrogen creme also,

> > >however,

> > > > it's

> > > > > > too

> > > > > > early to tell if anything is working. I get good days, but

> mostly

> > >bad.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I've been in this type of pain for approx. 3 months and would

> like

> > >to

> > > > hear

> > > > > > from

> > > > > > someone who has a similar problem. I am desperate for help.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Thanks for caring,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Rose

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > *****END OF MESSAGE*****

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[Guest guest]

- I am so sorry that you are having such a hard time with Sydney. I had similar problems with Brittany but fortunately they only lasted about a month. To this day though- she hates plain whipped cream- always liked it prediet but not now. I have to tell you that I lost it a few times with Brittany also - it is just so stressful. What finally worked for me was that I hit upon a few meals that worked for me and we basically lived off them for a month or 2 then gradually I was able to introduce the fats plain not hidden. I ended up mixing the cream and eggs for 'Brittany's breakfast together then scrambling them in the butter. Yes, it was very greasy but slowly she started eating it all. There were days she had this 3 out of 4 meals. I also threw the mixture in the waffle iron and it came out quite nice, crispy and brown. The other staple was chicken soup with the cream and butter in the soup and some veggie in there - usually carrots. What got her through this meal was that I made those macaroon cookies with sugar free jello and she got 2 of those after the soup. Just a few more ideas for the cream= cream mixed with sugar free jello(brittany only likes the orange and lime) then frozen in a pop, cream mixed with some sweetner and mashed strawberries or raspberries then frozen . My latest is chocolate mousse- cocoa, sweetner and cream whipped together = this has been a big hit and keeps well in the refridgerator. Hope one of these might help. Better days are coming!

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I would try giving her the cream first and let her know she will not get the rest until its gone.(by the way, do you make it into ice cream? its good) You could also try to make meals without the cream, just load up on the fat elsewhere, but that is hard, I've tried it. Have you made the litle "butter candy" for her yet? maybe she would like that texture better. Also, you can give her the PB cookie/muffin recipe only with butter on top to make it your ratio for one of her meals wich would not require cream!!( its not real nutritious because she will not get any fruit or veggies, but it may give her a break and then you can start over. Do you have this recipe. I will figure it out on my keto program if you let me know your ratio and calories. Let meknow if I can help! Tina. mom the Ethie, 3

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-- We have the same problem when 's not

feeling well, especially with the cream. What I do is

only fix half meals at a time -- if she can get that

much down, I call it good and stop. If she's still

hungry, then I give her the other half. This usually

subsides once she's feeling better, so I don't worry

about the fact that she's only gotten half calories

for those few days.

I know you said she doesn't like the butter or mayo.

How are you using it? Somebody said they mix the mayo

into a shake -- haven't tried it, but that might be an

option. I mix the butter in with 's eggs. It all

looks the same and she's never complained about it.

You can hide oil in applesauce quite well. I also use

Brown Cow Whole Milk Yogurt (plain) which would also

work well to mix oil and/or whipped cream into. I

usually mix some strawberries in with this for

strawberry yogurt. What about ice cream? Have you

tried that? I whip the cream, add sweetener,

flavoring and sometimes color and then freeze the

right amount. You could also mix her alotment of

fruit in with it. I don't, only because with

it's all about the volume of food.

Another thought might be that she needs the ratio

lowered, she's done well and I know you're afraid to

mess with anything, but it might be worth a try to

scoot it down a bit so you can reduce the fat

slightly.

Hang in there. . .I know this is tough. . . I get so

stressed out when won't eat (which is rare --

usually she's begging for food constantly). I've just

always heard that it's not good to make food into a

power struggle, especially with girls. That was one

of the things I was most nervous about with starting

this diet -- how is this going to affect her down the

road? Try to stay as calm as you can under the

circumstances. It's possible that you may learn that

she stays okay with lower ketones with might help you

relax a little bit, too. Good luck and keep us

posted!--D

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We went through this for about nine months with Jess when we started the

diet, perfect seizure control and constant daily battles about food. eventually

she just stopped eating all together. We lowered ratio to incorporate some

starches (she hadn't had any since starting the diet and was a real starch

monster pre-diet) and I did it like this - look , cheerios. Want

some? I would give her about 4, then tell her she had to have a spoonful

of ice cream (whipped oil, cream, sweetner and vanilla) before she could

have more cheerios. And on it went, a bit of starch, a bit of fat, a bit

of starch, a bit of fat. Then we got the point that she had to eat half

of her ice cream, then half of the rest of the meal, the rest of the ice

cream, the rest of the meal. Then I let her eat as she wanted, but always

made sure we saved some starch to the end as a motivator. Now she's great,

eats her meal, then her ice cream.

Is she still on meds? I think in jessica's case, the depakote made

her too acidic and that was part of why she wouldn't eat, the rest of it

was iron will, as you say

There are meals where you don't see the fat, the chicken soup for example

or yoghurt (I stir together sour cream, oil, vanilla, sweetner and fruit

and it takes the consistency of yoghurt if stirred well and refrigerated)

with protein, like cheese, on the side. Or the chicken casserole recipe,

it just eats up the mayonaise and the kid doesn't even notice.

Good luck and if I can be of any other help, let me know

, 's mom

Fritzenschaft wrote:

Hello, I

really need some advice. Sydney has been on the diet for four months now

seizure and med free. It has always been a struggle with her. She has never

wanted to eat and never wanted to eat or drink thr fat portion of

her meal. I have hid it every way possible that I could think of. Somtimes

I would give prizes other times talk her into it and somtimes punish her

for not drinking or eating the fat portion. sydneys problem is that she

eats everything but then refuses her fat. Friday she had a tummy virus

and didnt want to eat. I tried to let her recover without making an issue

of the food . Basically she didnt eat until Monday. Well now she wants

to eat but runs and cries over the oil and cream . She hates mayonaise

and butter. Her ketones are slowly dropping. We have always been 80-160

and now they are dipping into 40. I lost it this morning at spanked her

for slapping the milkshake out of my hand. I feel horrible, but she has

a will of iron. I cant let this oppertunity go by. The diet works perfectly

for her. No seizures. I dont want to mess everything up. I know she is

only four but she is killing me. I have talked and talked to her and she

promises to do better the next meal and never does. This diet is

a miracle for us but I dont want to emotionaly damage my baby girl. Any

suggestions. She has only been eating half meal at every meal. Which means

we do this six times a day. Latly she has only eaten 600 of her 1200 calories

she is suposed to be getting. please help

( Sydneys mom)

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Have you tried whipping the oil and/or cream into peanut butter? Tastes and looks like peanut butter frosting...you just need a little peanut butter too.

Jake wouldn't drink cream for 3 months straight. Ended up in the hospital, and they wouldn't discharge him until he drank something. We bought chocolate extract and made a chocolate eggnog. For whatever reason, that did the trick. We've slowly weaned out the chocolate and now he drinks it straight. What a trooper.

Barb Swoyer, Jake's mom

Re: Help

, Do you know my son? This could've been written by me about him. Mike is four years old and HATES (I cant stress that enough) his cream!! We have tried everything with it and as long as he doesnt have to drink it (when it is mixed with food) he is fine. This is what has worked for us. We add our oil to the cream and (I know this will sound like a ton of work but it is much better than spending 1/2 hr telling him to drink) we syringe it in. He has totally accepted it this way and almost never fights us anymore. I still try to add it to his meals when I can but I need him to be drinking as much as he can so I try not to do this too often. I also add it to soup - even chicken soup - changes the color a bit but he doesnt complain. Another thing we do is he HAS to finish the fat portion (we have also melted the butter and added it to the cream if he doesnt want to eat it since everything is syringed in anyway and I can keep it well mixed) before the rest of the meal - then the protien and then whatever carb he is allowed. This has worked really well and has also seemed to keep his ketones a bit more level (I am only judging this by his attitude as he is only peeing once a day or so and very hard to test his ketones) It has also been suggested to me to freeze it with the oil and koolaid and make cream-sicles or without the koolaid and make ice cream with a little vanilla and approved sweetner. If you ever need to vent - feel free to email me privately! Sounds like we are going thru pretty close to the same thing. Jenn Fritzenschaft wrote:

Hello, I really need some advice. Sydney has been on the diet for four months now seizure and med free. It has always been a struggle with her. She has never wanted to eat and never wanted to eat or drink thr fat portion of her meal. I have hid it every way possible that I could think of. Somtimes I would give prizes other times talk her into it and somtimes punish her for not drinking or eating the fat portion. sydneys problem is that she eats everything but then refuses her fat. Friday she had a tummy virus and didnt want to eat. I tried to let her recover without making an issue of the food . Basically she didnt eat until Monday. Well now she wants to eat but runs and cries over the oil and cream . She hates mayonaise and butter. Her ketones are slowly dropping. We have always been 80-160 and now they are dipping into 40. I lost it this morning at spanked her for slapping the milkshake out of my hand. I feel horrible, but she has a will of iron. I cant let this oppertunity go by. The diet works perfectly for her. No seizures. I dont want to mess everything up. I know she is only four but she is killing me. I have talked and talked to her and she promises to do better the next meal and never does. This diet is a miracle for us but I dont want to emotionaly damage my baby girl. Any suggestions. She has only been eating half meal at every meal. Which means we do this six times a day. Latly she has only eaten 600 of her 1200 calories she is suposed to be getting. please help ( Sydneys mom) "The Ketogenic Diet....a realistic treatment option, NOT just a last resort!" List is for parent to parent support only. It is important to get medical advice from a professional keto team! Subscribe: ketogenic-subscribe Unsubscribe: ketogenic-unsubscribe

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I just mix sweetner and vanilla (pure) in softened butter and then make them into little balls that weigh a specified amount, stick toothpicks into them and freeze them. I would give Ethan 2-4 of them at a meal and he really thought they were little candies. Tina

[Guest guest]

What is the little butter candy?--D

--- jthefitz@... wrote:

Have

> you made the litle " butter

> candy " for her yet?

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On Wed, 16 Jan 2002 10:01:30 -0600 " Fritzenschaft" writes:

I have talked and talked to her and she promises to do better the next meal and never does. This diet is a miracle for us but I dont want to emotionaly damage my baby girl. Any suggestions. She has only been eating half meal at every meal. Which means we do this six times a day. Latly she has only eaten 600 of her 1200 calories she is suposed to be getting. please help

what about bribery?? With we used money (he started the diet at 11)

but with her at 4 yrs what about buying her whatever her favorite toy?? Karrah is

6 and I use crayons, markers, colorbooks, clay, and for something big we use

barbies. something ive recently been doing for karrah (BTW...shes not

on the diet, its just to get her to do things) I give her pennies for doing what

shes told and when she doesnt listen I take them away....man oh man is

this working like a charm!!!

Barb...s mom

[Guest guest]

Hello, Sounds like we do about the same thing. I also syring sydneys fat portion down her. I begged and pleaded for her to eat or drink it with no sucsess so I just do it. She fusses everytime, but usually gives up and just finishes it. The foods sydney would eat pre diet she now hates. She hates all meats. She loves raw vegetables and fruit but protien is a big issue. Her list of no way meats now include hamburger, chicken , hot dog , lunch meat, pork chop, steak and any kind of fish. Doesnt leave me with a lot of choices. For now she eats cheese for her protien . Although this to is becoming a fight. I want to see her well, so I will win this battle. I refuse to let her take herself off the diet. Ill say a prayer for you. Its is so hard to have a constant battle about food.

Re: Help

, Do you know my son? This could've been written by me about him. Mike is four years old and HATES (I cant stress that enough) his cream!! We have tried everything with it and as long as he doesnt have to drink it (when it is mixed with food) he is fine. This is what has worked for us. We add our oil to the cream and (I know this will sound like a ton of work but it is much better than spending 1/2 hr telling him to drink) we syringe it in. He has totally accepted it this way and almost never fights us anymore. I still try to add it to his meals when I can but I need him to be drinking as much as he can so I try not to do this too often. I also add it to soup - even chicken soup - changes the color a bit but he doesnt complain. Another thing we do is he HAS to finish the fat portion (we have also melted the butter and added it to the cream if he doesnt want to eat it since everything is syringed in anyway and I can keep it well mixed) before the rest of the meal - then the protien and then whatever carb he is allowed. This has worked really well and has also seemed to keep his ketones a bit more level (I am only judging this by his attitude as he is only peeing once a day or so and very hard to test his ketones) It has also been suggested to me to freeze it with the oil and koolaid and make cream-sicles or without the koolaid and make ice cream with a little vanilla and approved sweetner. If you ever need to vent - feel free to email me privately! Sounds like we are going thru pretty close to the same thing. Jenn Fritzenschaft wrote:

Hello, I really need some advice. Sydney has been on the diet for four months now seizure and med free. It has always been a struggle with her. She has never wanted to eat and never wanted to eat or drink thr fat portion of her meal. I have hid it every way possible that I could think of. Somtimes I would give prizes other times talk her into it and somtimes punish her for not drinking or eating the fat portion. sydneys problem is that she eats everything but then refuses her fat. Friday she had a tummy virus and didnt want to eat. I tried to let her recover without making an issue of the food . Basically she didnt eat until Monday. Well now she wants to eat but runs and cries over the oil and cream . She hates mayonaise and butter. Her ketones are slowly dropping. We have always been 80-160 and now they are dipping into 40. I lost it this morning at spanked her for slapping the milkshake out of my hand. I feel horrible, but she has a will of iron. I cant let this oppertunity go by. The diet works perfectly for her. No seizures. I dont want to mess everything up. I know she is only four but she is killing me. I have talked and talked to her and she promises to do better the next meal and never does. This diet is a miracle for us but I dont want to emotionaly damage my baby girl. Any suggestions. She has only been eating half meal at every meal. Which means we do this six times a day. Latly she has only eaten 600 of her 1200 calories she is suposed to be getting. please help ( Sydneys mom) "The Ketogenic Diet....a realistic treatment option, NOT just a last resort!" List is for parent to parent support only. It is important to get medical advice from a professional keto team! Subscribe: ketogenic-subscribe Unsubscribe: ketogenic-unsubscribe

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In the past it would take Mike at least 1/2 hr to get his fat portion

(cream and oil mix) down him - now it only takes us 5 minutes. Mike

still likes meats - hotdog or sandwich meat being his fave but since I

dont like to give him these too often he usually gets egg for his

protein (he doesnt like cheese unless it is on pizza) Have you tried

scrambled egg? I mix the egg with some cream(34g of cream fits really

well with one egg) and then microwave it for a bit to set it then fry it

the rest of the way. Mike loves it and it hides butter well.

I agree that it is hard having a constant battle about food but it does

get better - Mike used to tell us constantly that he wasnt hungry - so

we told him he didnt have to eat - but he did have to sit at the table

while the rest of the family ate. Took under 5 minutes before he

started eating - guess he was hungry after all - he still pulls this

sometimes but it doesnt last long once he is actually at the table. It

has gotten better as the months progress and with every med wean we are

seeing more and more of his original personality emerging.

Today at preschool his aide commented on how polite he was. He said

please and thank you even to the other children and he cleaned up his

space when it was clean up time, then went to help other children clean

their stuff up - that is something he hasnt done in months!

Jenn

[Guest guest]

erg....

What do 12 year old boys like to do???

Can you be outside?

I have no idea. none. sorry.

Penny

[Guest guest]

Lori -

I wish I knew.

I have absolutely no idea.

All I can think of is renting a small pool out back or having a watergun

fight?

Grace

Help

> I need help with something. I have 5 12 year old boys coming to a

surprise B-party for my son. I need to do a game or two.

>

> Anyone have any Ideas?

>

> Lori

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Sorry Lori,

No idea at all. is turning 12 on April 4 and I don't know what if

anything we'll be doing either!

Sue

Help

> I need help with something. I have 5 12 year old boys coming to a

surprise B-party for my son. I need to do a game or two.

>

> Anyone have any Ideas?

>

> Lori

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Does your son like ice cream? How about a banana split party? Get bananas, ice

cream and all the fixins' and let them have at it.

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[Guest guest]

Mark - I forwarded 3 to you but I had already permanently deleted others.

[Guest guest]

Thanks ,

I have found one source of the viruses. As expected, the source's

computer is infected, and is secretly sending virus-laden email to

names in the computer's address book. (I am purposely not identifiying

the source since he/she has done nothing malicious--she/he is the

victim of this virus.)

The source is working with a number of people to rid his/her computer

of the virus. Even his/her anti-virus program is infected, and

therefore useless. The situation is so bad that it may require

re-installation of the operating system. YIKES!!!

It's possible that there is yet another source that I have ID'd.

We'll see on that one.

Mark Weber

P.S. Keep your virus-laden email coming.

> Mark - I forwarded 3 to you but I had already permanently deleted

others.

>

[Guest guest]

Anne,

I just went in and deleted it. Must have been Yahoo being mean.

hugs

marianne

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HELP

Hi ,,,I went to my photo album and deleted pics,,,,,all but one deleted,,,,,,how do I get rid of it,,,,,It now takes up most of my space,,,,grrrr don't know why,,,,I want to update photo album,,,,,,hope someone can help,,,,I tried everything I know,,,,,,hugs,,,,,,Anne

[Guest guest]

HI nne,,,,Thank You for fixing my album,,,I want to update it,

will post when I get it finished,,,,,hugs,,,,Anne

> Anne,

> I just went in and deleted it. Must have been Yahoo being mean.

> hugs

> marianne

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>

>

> Hi ,,,I went to my photo album and deleted pics,,,,,all but one

> deleted,,,,,,how do I get rid of it,,,,,It now takes up most of

my

> space,,,,grrrr don't know why,,,,I want to update photo

> album,,,,,,hope someone can help,,,,I tried everything I

> know,,,,,,hugs,,,,,,Anne

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Eva,

I was lucky and never had hot flashes but I believe some of the ladies are

on Paxil for them. I am sure someone else will answer you. Try checking with

your doctor. I will keep you in my prayers.

Hugs

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HELP

> Can someone tell me how long hot flashes last?I am all done with my

> treatments I had a total hysterectomy years ago.I am now having hot

> flashes and I am so emotional I find myself crying over anything.My

> husband was home on the weekend like he always has been for the past

> 3 yrs (he is a truck driver)I took him to his big truck and I came

> home and cried because he was gone and I was home all alone.I am not

> sure how much longer I can handle any more.When I was taking the

> premarin (before the breast cancer)I was doing good there were no

> hotflashes,nightsweats or just being emotional I was in a good mood

> all the time now I feel like I am going to go CRAZY......I can not

> stand to be around alot of people and before a crowd never bothered

> me but now I get very nervous and I have to get away from everyone.

> Has any one else ever felt like this?????I just wish that there was a

> support group close to where I live cause I really need to talk to

> other women who has been thru this.My family does try to help but

> unless you have gone thru the breast cancer it really does not

> help....So any suggestions on what I should do would be greatly

> appreciated....Thanks for listening Eva from MO.

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Eva, I started taking Zoloft about a month before the breast cancer was found. I have been on Zoloft for the past 5 years. My doctor prescribed Zoloft because I was going through some paramenopausal symptoms - high emotions, hot flashes, etc. She didn't want to put me on HRT because my mom had BC. I am now going through menopause. I have not had hot flashes or emotional break downs since I started the Zoloft. Check about the Zoloft. The only reaction I had was it made me sleepy so I take it at night.

Good luck.

Dianna

HELP

Can someone tell me how long hot flashes last?I am all done with my treatments I had a total hysterectomy years ago.I am now having hot flashes and I am so emotional I find myself crying over anything.My husband was home on the weekend like he always has been for the past 3 yrs (he is a truck driver)I took him to his big truck and I came home and cried because he was gone and I was home all alone.I am not sure how much longer I can handle any more.When I was taking the premarin (before the breast cancer)I was doing good there were no hotflashes,nightsweats or just being emotional I was in a good mood all the time now I feel like I am going to go CRAZY......I can not stand to be around alot of people and before a crowd never bothered me but now I get very nervous and I have to get away from everyone.Has any one else ever felt like this?????I just wish that there was a support group close to where I live cause I really need to talk to other women who has been thru this.My family does try to help but unless you have gone thru the breast cancer it really does not help....So any suggestions on what I should do would be greatly appreciated....Thanks for listening Eva from MO.

[Guest guest]

Hi Eva

Ask your Dr. about taking Effexor. I take the time released 75mg. and they are a tremendous help. Lindsey

HELP

Can someone tell me how long hot flashes last?I am all done with my treatments I had a total hysterectomy years ago.I am now having hot flashes and I am so emotional I find myself crying over anything.My husband was home on the weekend like he always has been for the past 3 yrs (he is a truck driver)I took him to his big truck and I came home and cried because he was gone and I was home all alone.I am not sure how much longer I can handle any more.When I was taking the premarin (before the breast cancer)I was doing good there were no hotflashes,nightsweats or just being emotional I was in a good mood all the time now I feel like I am going to go CRAZY......I can not stand to be around alot of people and before a crowd never bothered me but now I get very nervous and I have to get away from everyone.Has any one else ever felt like this?????I just wish that there was a support group close to where I live cause I really need to talk to other women who has been thru this.My family does try to help but unless you have gone thru the breast cancer it really does not help....So any suggestions on what I should do would be greatly appreciated....Thanks for listening Eva from MO.

[Guest guest]

eva, paxil did wonders for me........and i am the biggest baby there is!~ i use to cry at the drop of a pin!!!.....paxil got rid of my hotflashes(almost, but what is left i can deal with) and before paxil, i was on this emotional roller coaster, up one minute, down the next.......so run, not walk to your doctor and get some!!!

hugs and prayers from carol in michigan

-- HELP

Can someone tell me how long hot flashes last?I am all done with my

treatments I had a total hysterectomy years ago.I am now having hot

flashes and I am so emotional I find myself crying over anything.My

husband was home on the weekend like he always has been for the past

3 yrs (he is a truck driver)I took him to his big truck and I came

home and cried because he was gone and I was home all alone.I am not

sure how much longer I can handle any more.When I was taking the

premarin (before the breast cancer)I was doing good there were no

hotflashes,nightsweats or just being emotional I was in a good mood

all the time now I feel like I am going to go CRAZY......I can not

stand to be around alot of people and before a crowd never bothered

me but now I get very nervous and I have to get away from everyone.

Has any one else ever felt like this?????I just wish that there was a

support group close to where I live cause I really need to talk to

other women who has been thru this.My family does try to help but

unless you have gone thru the breast cancer it really does not

help....So any suggestions on what I should do would be greatly

appreciated....Thanks for listening Eva from MO.

[Guest guest]

Someone asked " what can I say to help her understand? "

The answer is there is nothing you can say. Saying nothing is the best

option. Just shut the door that leads to her, climb out a window, and get on

with your life.

Hugs, girlscout

>

> Hey there,

>

> I can definitely relate to what you're feeling at the moment. I think

> you've done really great

> setting that boundary with her (she is to get help if she wants a

> relationship with you).

> You're absolutely right though - you'll have to stick with it.

>

> I just have one comment - It does sound like you still feel on some level

> you have some

> control/influence over her (e.g. suggesting the SWOE book may help her). I

> think the more

> Ive relinquished control over everyone else's behaviour around me and

> focussed more on

> myself and my own behaviour, Ive felt less 'obsessed' with my mum in

> particular, but Im

> also feeling more confident about myself and my other relationships are

> better for it.

>

> Perhaps some of the answers for you lie in looking at why you're feelings

> are so strong

> and feel so overwhelming as a result of your mums behaviour? What can you

> do about your

> own feelings? Shift the focus to changing yourself and your reaction to

> your mum, rather

> than changing your mum. (which Im sure you probably are doing this kind of

> thing - but

> yeah i agree with the others, therapy has been key for me in this).

>

> Sometimes I feel like in the past Ive tried to drag my mum along with my on

> my journey

> (trying to 'show her the light'), rather than letting her go and travelling

> my own journey,

> and respecting her right to live her own journey.... whatever that is, its

> not for me to say,

> its up to her!

>

> All the best,

> Emma.

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

It's unlikely your mom will get help as long as her sister is invested

in keeping her sick. It seems like these personality disorder folks

always need reinforcements of some kind, they can't exist in a vaccuum.