New here

December 30, 2001

> owes you an apology (ARE YOU

> LISTENING, DEREK?)

Sure I hear you, especially when you SHOUT!

I am not so sure about owing an apology, though, because I already

got cussed out at great length. I have acknowledged 's grounds

for feeling irritated already and I am going to wait and see how she

reacts. I don't think that anybody needs to apologize if he/she

already freely accepted a good cussing out, do they?

Correct me if I am wrong!

(more depressed than ever)

December 30, 2001

> owes you an apology (ARE YOU

> LISTENING, DEREK?)

Sure I hear you, especially when you SHOUT!

I am not so sure about owing an apology, though, because I already

got cussed out at great length. I have acknowledged 's grounds

for feeling irritated already and I am going to wait and see how she

reacts. I don't think that anybody needs to apologize if he/she

already freely accepted a good cussing out, do they?

Correct me if I am wrong!

(more depressed than ever)

December 30, 2001

wrote:

> I am not so sure about owing an apology, though, because I already got

> cussed out at great length. I have acknowledged 's grounds for

> feeling irritated already and I am going to wait and see how she

> reacts. I don't think that anybody needs to apologize if he/she

> already freely accepted a good cussing out, do they?

>

> Correct me if I am wrong!

,

I think you already did the right thing. You acknowledged your error

before anyone but had a chance to address the issue. Thanks for

replying to 's post the way you did.

Rick

December 30, 2001

How is it that I always wind up feeling sorry for you when you've been a

jerk, ?

Sorry for shouting at you.

Anne

Re: new here

> owes you an apology (ARE YOU

> LISTENING, DEREK?)

Sure I hear you, especially when you SHOUT!

I am not so sure about owing an apology, though, because I already

got cussed out at great length. I have acknowledged 's grounds

for feeling irritated already and I am going to wait and see how she

reacts. I don't think that anybody needs to apologize if he/she

already freely accepted a good cussing out, do they?

Correct me if I am wrong!

(more depressed than ever)

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December 30, 2001

> How is it that I always wind up

> feeling sorry for you when you've

> been a jerk, ?

It's a defense technique I learnt through being married for 42 years

to the same woman.

> Sorry for shouting at you.

No problem, that has happened to me before, too.

December 30, 2001

.....But I've always supported you . We have a mutual admiration

society.

Hugs, (and a very Happy New Year)

Tootie

Re: new here

> How is it that I always wind up

> feeling sorry for you when you've

> been a jerk, ?

It's a defense technique I learnt through being married for 42 years

to the same woman.

> Sorry for shouting at you.

No problem, that has happened to me before, too.

December 30, 2001

.....But I've always supported you . We have a mutual admiration

society.

Hugs, (and a very Happy New Year)

Tootie

Re: new here

> How is it that I always wind up

> feeling sorry for you when you've

> been a jerk, ?

It's a defense technique I learnt through being married for 42 years

to the same woman.

> Sorry for shouting at you.

No problem, that has happened to me before, too.

December 30, 2001

.....But I've always supported you . We have a mutual admiration

society.

Hugs, (and a very Happy New Year)

Tootie

Re: new here

> How is it that I always wind up

> feeling sorry for you when you've

> been a jerk, ?

It's a defense technique I learnt through being married for 42 years

to the same woman.

> Sorry for shouting at you.

No problem, that has happened to me before, too.

December 31, 2001

It's a defense technique I learnt through being married for 42 years

to the same woman.

It's called long suffering. My 40th comes next year.

December 31, 2001

It's a defense technique I learnt through being married for 42 years

to the same woman.

It's called long suffering. My 40th comes next year.

December 31, 2001

It's a defense technique I learnt through being married for 42 years

to the same woman.

It's called long suffering. My 40th comes next year.

January 1, 2002

Sussie's post reinforces the most important point of how different we all

are. I have 125 to 160 carbs a day and stay within my target range. Sussie

has learned her system can't tolerate as many carbs as mine. We both have

learned through daily testing how our systems work. Any recommendations you

get are only a guide. The only way to develop the best meal plan is test you

bgs after every meal to find out how your system reacts to different foods.

Ed from CT

> Hi ,

> I was diagnosed a few months ago and my levels were about 140 to 160 and

> my blood test was 6.7...I have been doing wonderful because of the

> people of this and another email list. Yes they are strict in their

> thinking but it works. One thing is that I do not eat a lot of

> concentrated sugar and I count carbs. I eat no carbs for breakfast or

> lunch and only a bit at dinner on a good day.

>

> Yesterday I nibbled on a few pieces of fudge!!! Bad.and then when we

> went to the show I did not order a diet drink (I really hate diet coke)

> and then half way through the movie I took 2 sips of my husbands real

> coke..I have not even had a sip of sugar drink in two months!! And it

> tasted awful to me..

>

> Well that and then a dinner of porkchops with a syrup on them...

>

> And whamO..my level was a all time high of 250!......I am now convinced

> that I can not afford to go " off " my plan..not in that degree all in one

> day.

>

> sussie

>

January 1, 2002

Sussie's post reinforces the most important point of how different we all

are. I have 125 to 160 carbs a day and stay within my target range. Sussie

has learned her system can't tolerate as many carbs as mine. We both have

learned through daily testing how our systems work. Any recommendations you

get are only a guide. The only way to develop the best meal plan is test you

bgs after every meal to find out how your system reacts to different foods.

Ed from CT

> Hi ,

> I was diagnosed a few months ago and my levels were about 140 to 160 and

> my blood test was 6.7...I have been doing wonderful because of the

> people of this and another email list. Yes they are strict in their

> thinking but it works. One thing is that I do not eat a lot of

> concentrated sugar and I count carbs. I eat no carbs for breakfast or

> lunch and only a bit at dinner on a good day.

>

> Yesterday I nibbled on a few pieces of fudge!!! Bad.and then when we

> went to the show I did not order a diet drink (I really hate diet coke)

> and then half way through the movie I took 2 sips of my husbands real

> coke..I have not even had a sip of sugar drink in two months!! And it

> tasted awful to me..

>

> Well that and then a dinner of porkchops with a syrup on them...

>

> And whamO..my level was a all time high of 250!......I am now convinced

> that I can not afford to go " off " my plan..not in that degree all in one

> day.

>

> sussie

>

January 1, 2002

Most of us are in the habit of eating something while at the

movies...popcorn, candy, cokes...all these things are Absolutely Not Good for

diabetics. It's awfully hard to resist temptation when the whole place smells

of yummy popcorn...still, it IS possible. I myself have found that it's

easier to resist entirely than have " just one or two pieces " of popcorn.

If you absolutely must have something to eat while at the movies, try toasted

soynuts...they're tasty and pretty lowcarb. And they do satisfy the " crunch

factor " . You can buy them commercially or make them yourself. Vicki

<<

Yesterday I nibbled on a few pieces of fudge!!! Bad.and then when we

went to the show I did not order a diet drink (I really hate diet coke)

and then half way through the movie I took 2 sips of my husbands real

coke..I have not even had a sip of sugar drink in two months!! And it

tasted awful to me..

>>

January 1, 2002

> It's called long suffering.

> My 40th comes next year.

Yeah, the first 40 years are the toughest, . The next 40 years

are much the same but you know what to expect this time around. The

main lesson I learnt was: Never argue with women - even if you win,

you lose!

January 1, 2002

> It's called long suffering.

> My 40th comes next year.

Yeah, the first 40 years are the toughest, . The next 40 years

are much the same but you know what to expect this time around. The

main lesson I learnt was: Never argue with women - even if you win,

you lose!

January 1, 2002

I have had to give up sugar drinks all together. They are said to have

15 teaspoons of sugar in one can.I believe it...sus

-----Original Message-----

From: whimsy2@...

Hi, ...well, the reason for your high BGs is obvious: you're not

eating

right. Was the cocoa made with sugar? Bad. the cranberry

muffins...guaranteed to raise your BG. The cokes? Unless they were

diet

cokes, also guaranteed to raise your BGs. And all these things are

nutritionally lacking. Corn? Starch and carbs. Crackers? That'll

raise

your BG too. And nutritionally you're (sorry 'bout this) a mess. You

need

to eat balanced meals at regular times that are low in carbs and

higher in

protein. No wonder you're feeling terrible! A diet like what you're

eating

would make even for a healthy (non-diabetic) person feel awful.

About the only thing you mentioned eating that was diabetically okay was

the

porkchop and the cheese. I think you need to be Nutritionally Educated.

Stick with us -- we'll get you down the right path and get those BGs

down.

You need to eat more veggies such as spinach, broccoli, cauliflower,

cabbage,

asparagus, greenbeans -- and salads. Eggs, meat, chicken, fish are

fine.

There are a lot of lowcarb products that will help you along the way if

you

can afford them. . Forget fruit juices. You need to be strong to take

care

of your baby, so you need to eat properly. Take care. Vicki

In a message dated 12/28/01 8:49:39 PM EST, lisa.barry@...

writes:

<< My main problem with eating is not eating

and when I do it no the right things. Yesterday I had 2 cranberry

muffins

left over from X-mas morning with 2 cups of cocca. Then for lunch I had

crakers and cheese with a coke. Then nothing till late last night I had

porkchops and one ear of corn. Somewhere with in the day I had another

coke

which I didn't finish because I started to feel sick. Most days I don't

even

eat breakfast and don't have lunch till 2pm when my dd goes down for her

nap. I >>

January 1, 2002

I have had to give up sugar drinks all together. They are said to have

15 teaspoons of sugar in one can.I believe it...sus

-----Original Message-----

From: whimsy2@...

Hi, ...well, the reason for your high BGs is obvious: you're not

eating

right. Was the cocoa made with sugar? Bad. the cranberry

muffins...guaranteed to raise your BG. The cokes? Unless they were

diet

cokes, also guaranteed to raise your BGs. And all these things are

nutritionally lacking. Corn? Starch and carbs. Crackers? That'll

raise

your BG too. And nutritionally you're (sorry 'bout this) a mess. You

need

to eat balanced meals at regular times that are low in carbs and

higher in

protein. No wonder you're feeling terrible! A diet like what you're

eating

would make even for a healthy (non-diabetic) person feel awful.

About the only thing you mentioned eating that was diabetically okay was

the

porkchop and the cheese. I think you need to be Nutritionally Educated.

Stick with us -- we'll get you down the right path and get those BGs

down.

You need to eat more veggies such as spinach, broccoli, cauliflower,

cabbage,

asparagus, greenbeans -- and salads. Eggs, meat, chicken, fish are

fine.

There are a lot of lowcarb products that will help you along the way if

you

can afford them. . Forget fruit juices. You need to be strong to take

care

of your baby, so you need to eat properly. Take care. Vicki

In a message dated 12/28/01 8:49:39 PM EST, lisa.barry@...

writes:

<< My main problem with eating is not eating

and when I do it no the right things. Yesterday I had 2 cranberry

muffins

left over from X-mas morning with 2 cups of cocca. Then for lunch I had

crakers and cheese with a coke. Then nothing till late last night I had

porkchops and one ear of corn. Somewhere with in the day I had another

coke

which I didn't finish because I started to feel sick. Most days I don't

even

eat breakfast and don't have lunch till 2pm when my dd goes down for her

nap. I >>

January 1, 2002

I have had to give up sugar drinks all together. They are said to have

15 teaspoons of sugar in one can.I believe it...sus

-----Original Message-----

From: whimsy2@...

Hi, ...well, the reason for your high BGs is obvious: you're not

eating

right. Was the cocoa made with sugar? Bad. the cranberry

muffins...guaranteed to raise your BG. The cokes? Unless they were

diet

cokes, also guaranteed to raise your BGs. And all these things are

nutritionally lacking. Corn? Starch and carbs. Crackers? That'll

raise

your BG too. And nutritionally you're (sorry 'bout this) a mess. You

need

to eat balanced meals at regular times that are low in carbs and

higher in

protein. No wonder you're feeling terrible! A diet like what you're

eating

would make even for a healthy (non-diabetic) person feel awful.

About the only thing you mentioned eating that was diabetically okay was

the

porkchop and the cheese. I think you need to be Nutritionally Educated.

Stick with us -- we'll get you down the right path and get those BGs

down.

You need to eat more veggies such as spinach, broccoli, cauliflower,

cabbage,

asparagus, greenbeans -- and salads. Eggs, meat, chicken, fish are

fine.

There are a lot of lowcarb products that will help you along the way if

you

can afford them. . Forget fruit juices. You need to be strong to take

care

of your baby, so you need to eat properly. Take care. Vicki

In a message dated 12/28/01 8:49:39 PM EST, lisa.barry@...

writes:

<< My main problem with eating is not eating

and when I do it no the right things. Yesterday I had 2 cranberry

muffins

left over from X-mas morning with 2 cups of cocca. Then for lunch I had

crakers and cheese with a coke. Then nothing till late last night I had

porkchops and one ear of corn. Somewhere with in the day I had another

coke

which I didn't finish because I started to feel sick. Most days I don't

even

eat breakfast and don't have lunch till 2pm when my dd goes down for her

nap. I >>

January 1, 2002

Hi ,

I was diagnosed a few months ago and my levels were about 140 to 160 and

my blood test was 6.7...I have been doing wonderful because of the

people of this and another email list. Yes they are strict in their

thinking but it works. One thing is that I do not eat a lot of

concentrated sugar and I count carbs. I eat no carbs for breakfast or

lunch and only a bit at dinner on a good day.

Yesterday I nibbled on a few pieces of fudge!!! Bad.and then when we

went to the show I did not order a diet drink (I really hate diet coke)

and then half way through the movie I took 2 sips of my husbands real

coke..I have not even had a sip of sugar drink in two months!! And it

tasted awful to me..

Well that and then a dinner of porkchops with a syrup on them...

And whamO..my level was a all time high of 250!......I am now convinced

that I can not afford to go " off " my plan..not in that degree all in one

day.

sussie

-----Original Message-----

From: Shelton

Hi,

Thank you for replying to my message. I will try to reply to everyone

in

one message. I hope I don't miss anyone. I am typing fast, while Dh

finishes

giving our dd a bath.

Still no luck with getting my sugar down. It has stayed around 250 all

give

or take a few points. I have been drinking water like crazy trying to

flush

my system out. My husband called my Dr today,he said for me to be at

his

office first thing Monday morning. So we will see what happens there. I

am

over weight I lost a lot of weight during my pregnancy. But I have been

gaining it back since the birth. My main problem with eating is not

eating

and when I do it no the right things. Yesterday I had 2 cranberry

muffins

left over from X-mas morning with 2 cups of cocca. Then for lunch I had

crakers and cheese with a coke. Then nothing till late last night I had

porkchops and one ear of corn. Somewhere with in the day I had another

coke

which I didn't finish because I started to feel sick. Most days I don't

even

eat breakfast and don't have lunch till 2pm when my dd goes down for her

nap. I have polystic ovarin diease, which I am finding out has a BIG

roll in

me having diabetes. I also have a family Hx of it as well. I have not

taken

any classes at the monent but hope to find out more Monday after the Dr

visit.Well I need to go help Dh with our baby. If i missed anything let

me

know.

Thanks again everyone!

..

January 1, 2002

--- Really tough to do just a couple of pieces of popcorn or chips

etc. Guess its the salt that makes one go back for more. So like you

I don't even bother with it.

As far as the diet soda, I cannot drink regular anymore, I don't like

the taste of it! I know right away if a waitress has given me the

wrong one and send it back. Guess that's from being on diet so long!

One of my friends who is a new diabetic never liked diet soda.

However, she experimented with all the various brands that are

available. She didn't like diet coke at all but really liked diet

pepsi, I don't like diet pepsi but love diet coke! She also tried

the store brands and found some of the flavors to her liking.

I don't go to the movies often but usually I have eaten lunch or

dinner before I go so am not hungry when there so no temptation with

the popcorn etc!

Have a great day everyone!!!

Madge

In diabetes_int@y..., whimsy2@a... wrote:

> Most of us are in the habit of eating something while at the

> movies...popcorn, candy, cokes...all these things are Absolutely

Not Good for

> diabetics. It's awfully hard to resist temptation when the whole

place smells

> of yummy popcorn...still, it IS possible. I myself have found that

it's

> easier to resist entirely than have " just one or two pieces " of

popcorn.

>

> If you absolutely must have something to eat while at the movies,

try toasted

> soynuts...they're tasty and pretty lowcarb. And they do satisfy

the " crunch

> factor " . You can buy them commercially or make them yourself.

Vicki

>

> In a message dated 1/1/02 11:34:53 AM EST, cld60@e... writes:

>

> <<

> Yesterday I nibbled on a few pieces of fudge!!! Bad.and then when

we

> went to the show I did not order a diet drink (I really hate diet

coke)

> and then half way through the movie I took 2 sips of my husbands

real

> coke..I have not even had a sip of sugar drink in two months!! And

it

> tasted awful to me..

> >>

January 1, 2002