New here

[Guest guest]

> I weighed-in mon 20th at 187lbs.It was week1 for me.I'm from

> southern ca.Is anyone else?

> ROBYN

Robyn welcome. I am from Northern New Jersey.

Traci

[Guest guest]

Welcome to the group Robyn!

Maureen

> I weighed-in mon 20th at 187lbs.It was week1 for me.I'm from

> southern ca.Is anyone else?

> ROBYN

[Guest guest]

I've got to disagree with you here, ...urine tests won't let you know

with any specificity how different foods affect your BGs. A meter and

strips are absolutely critical in order to make good food choices to lower

BGs. Urine strips will tell you when you're in trouble. Frequent testing

with a meter will keep you from getting to that point. And a trip to the ER

and a hospital stay is definitely more expensive than test strips. Vicki

dated 12/28/01 3:38:11 PM EST, j459g@... writes:

<< With the

glucose levels you mentioned, you probably don't need to use up BG

meter test strips. Urine test strips will give you an idea of how you

are doing at the moment and they are much cheaper than test strips

for a meter. Try taking a urine test strip 1 hour after starting to

eat a meal and if it shows 800-1000mg/dl (as it well might) you

should start thinking about getting treatment in a hurry, insured or

not. >>

[Guest guest]

I've got to disagree with you here, ...urine tests won't let you know

with any specificity how different foods affect your BGs. A meter and

strips are absolutely critical in order to make good food choices to lower

BGs. Urine strips will tell you when you're in trouble. Frequent testing

with a meter will keep you from getting to that point. And a trip to the ER

and a hospital stay is definitely more expensive than test strips. Vicki

dated 12/28/01 3:38:11 PM EST, j459g@... writes:

<< With the

glucose levels you mentioned, you probably don't need to use up BG

meter test strips. Urine test strips will give you an idea of how you

are doing at the moment and they are much cheaper than test strips

for a meter. Try taking a urine test strip 1 hour after starting to

eat a meal and if it shows 800-1000mg/dl (as it well might) you

should start thinking about getting treatment in a hurry, insured or

not. >>

[Guest guest]

wrote:

> So if anybody had any ideas on where I could look for some help, I

> would very much appersheate it ~

>

Hi ,

Welcome to our group.

I afraid I don't have any of the information you were asking about, but

I hoping some of our other members will. I know the holidays are

especially tough on our control. Don't get discouraged. You can get

through this.

Can you you tell us anymore about your situation? What kind of diet, if

anything special, are you following? Are you familiar with Carbohydrate

management - i.e.. low carb, moderate carb diets? Anything you feel

comfortable sharing with us will help.

Rick

[Guest guest]

wrote:

> So if anybody had any ideas on where I could look for some help, I

> would very much appersheate it ~

>

Hi ,

Welcome to our group.

I afraid I don't have any of the information you were asking about, but

I hoping some of our other members will. I know the holidays are

especially tough on our control. Don't get discouraged. You can get

through this.

Can you you tell us anymore about your situation? What kind of diet, if

anything special, are you following? Are you familiar with Carbohydrate

management - i.e.. low carb, moderate carb diets? Anything you feel

comfortable sharing with us will help.

Rick

[Guest guest]

>Yesterday I started feeling ill and so I decided to check my sugar and it was

254. I checked it several times last night and it would only move a few points.

My fasting sugar today is 251. I don't have insurance which is one of my biggest

problem.

***, welcome. Carbohydrates will raise most diabetics' blood sugar, so the

trick is to lower your carbohydrate intake and eat mostly protein, low starch

green/yellow vegetables and some fats for energy. At the bottom of each message

there is a url for the shared files for this list. There are many success

stories in there, which tell how some of us got under control. Go to the

library and look for " Dr. Bernstein's Diabetes Solution " . This book has lots of

information, some of which is at his website,

http://www.diabetes-normalsugars.com Test frequently: fasting in the morning

and 1-2 hours after meals, so you know how the food you eat is affecting you.

If you lower your carb count (many of us eat very low carb like 30g per day,

some of us more moderate carb like 100 g per day, test often and get some

exercise, you should see a noticable difference in your readings.

Barb

[Guest guest]

>Yesterday I started feeling ill and so I decided to check my sugar and it was

254. I checked it several times last night and it would only move a few points.

My fasting sugar today is 251. I don't have insurance which is one of my biggest

problem.

***, welcome. Carbohydrates will raise most diabetics' blood sugar, so the

trick is to lower your carbohydrate intake and eat mostly protein, low starch

green/yellow vegetables and some fats for energy. At the bottom of each message

there is a url for the shared files for this list. There are many success

stories in there, which tell how some of us got under control. Go to the

library and look for " Dr. Bernstein's Diabetes Solution " . This book has lots of

information, some of which is at his website,

http://www.diabetes-normalsugars.com Test frequently: fasting in the morning

and 1-2 hours after meals, so you know how the food you eat is affecting you.

If you lower your carb count (many of us eat very low carb like 30g per day,

some of us more moderate carb like 100 g per day, test often and get some

exercise, you should see a noticable difference in your readings.

Barb

[Guest guest]

>Yesterday I started feeling ill and so I decided to check my sugar and it was

254. I checked it several times last night and it would only move a few points.

My fasting sugar today is 251. I don't have insurance which is one of my biggest

problem.

***, welcome. Carbohydrates will raise most diabetics' blood sugar, so the

trick is to lower your carbohydrate intake and eat mostly protein, low starch

green/yellow vegetables and some fats for energy. At the bottom of each message

there is a url for the shared files for this list. There are many success

stories in there, which tell how some of us got under control. Go to the

library and look for " Dr. Bernstein's Diabetes Solution " . This book has lots of

information, some of which is at his website,

http://www.diabetes-normalsugars.com Test frequently: fasting in the morning

and 1-2 hours after meals, so you know how the food you eat is affecting you.

If you lower your carb count (many of us eat very low carb like 30g per day,

some of us more moderate carb like 100 g per day, test often and get some

exercise, you should see a noticable difference in your readings.

Barb

[Guest guest]

> So if anybody had any ideas on where

> I could look for some help, I would

> very much appreciate it

You didn't say if you are overweight or not, . Are you?

Gestational diabetes is more common in overweight women than in those

with normal weight (BMI 25 or less). Losing weight takes effort and

persistence but makes a tremendous difference and doesn't cost you

anything. You don't need any health insurance to lose weight! Eating

less can even save you money. Exercise doesn't cost anything either

and helps to reduce insulin resistance.

From what I hear other people say, you might need to go onto insulin

treatment soon to get your fasting glucose level down. With the

glucose levels you mentioned, you probably don't need to use up BG

meter test strips. Urine test strips will give you an idea of how you

are doing at the moment and they are much cheaper than test strips

for a meter. Try taking a urine test strip 1 hour after starting to

eat a meal and if it shows 800-1000mg/dl (as it well might) you

should start thinking about getting treatment in a hurry, insured or

not.

If you leave getting treatment much longer you might be faced with a

bill for emergency room treatment and even for a stay in intensive

care (for example, if you get an infection of some kind and your

blood glucose de-rails completely). I don't want to worry you

unnecessarily but putting off getting treatment won't make it any

cheaper for you in the long run.

If you suddenly start passing large quantities of urine, day or

night, it is time for you to call the paramedics or head straight for

the nearest ER (and I mean if it is just streaming out of you and

your BG meter reads " HI HI " ). I have been through all that with my

own wife and I can assure you that it is something to be avoided at

all costs. Don't assume when that happens that you can wait it out to

see if it will clear up on its own, it won't.

[Guest guest]

> So if anybody had any ideas on where

> I could look for some help, I would

> very much appreciate it

You didn't say if you are overweight or not, . Are you?

Gestational diabetes is more common in overweight women than in those

with normal weight (BMI 25 or less). Losing weight takes effort and

persistence but makes a tremendous difference and doesn't cost you

anything. You don't need any health insurance to lose weight! Eating

less can even save you money. Exercise doesn't cost anything either

and helps to reduce insulin resistance.

From what I hear other people say, you might need to go onto insulin

treatment soon to get your fasting glucose level down. With the

glucose levels you mentioned, you probably don't need to use up BG

meter test strips. Urine test strips will give you an idea of how you

are doing at the moment and they are much cheaper than test strips

for a meter. Try taking a urine test strip 1 hour after starting to

eat a meal and if it shows 800-1000mg/dl (as it well might) you

should start thinking about getting treatment in a hurry, insured or

not.

If you leave getting treatment much longer you might be faced with a

bill for emergency room treatment and even for a stay in intensive

care (for example, if you get an infection of some kind and your

blood glucose de-rails completely). I don't want to worry you

unnecessarily but putting off getting treatment won't make it any

cheaper for you in the long run.

If you suddenly start passing large quantities of urine, day or

night, it is time for you to call the paramedics or head straight for

the nearest ER (and I mean if it is just streaming out of you and

your BG meter reads " HI HI " ). I have been through all that with my

own wife and I can assure you that it is something to be avoided at

all costs. Don't assume when that happens that you can wait it out to

see if it will clear up on its own, it won't.

[Guest guest]

The short ansewr to your question, , is yes.

One pretty sure way to quickly reduce BGs is to drastically lower the amount

and kinds of carbs eaten. This does not cost a lot of money. But the only

way to find out exactly HOW much is to test so yes, I'd tell -- are you

listening, ?-- to cut out the " whites " from your diet to start with, i.e.

breads and grain products of all kinds, potatos, , rice, pasta and all root

veggies in addition to just about all fruits except perhaps strawberries,

raspberries and melons, in small amounts -- and of course, the usual sweet

stuff, such as cakes and cookies, etc.. This is absolutely certain to lower

her BGs. The testing is to find out how much, and what she can add back in

and in what amounts.

I know this isn't the eating plan you follow...and I'll admit there are a

few folks out there who have found success with a much less restrictive diet

and even the traditional " exchange plan " espoused by the ADA. But I'd say

they're more the exception than the rule.

Now, , it may seem that you can't eat any of your favorite foods and this

is a very restrictive way of eating -- and this is true. But when you weigh

this against the longterm consequences of uncontrolled BGs, the tradeoff is

well worth it. And it is entirely possible to eat an interesting and varied

diet within these restrictions. Many on this list do so and have done so for

extended periods of time. I myself follow a plan of about 100 carbs per day

and have eaten this way since my diagnosis four years ago. It will require a

major shift in your way of eating - but the rewards are well worth it.

So yes, I'd tell to make the above cuts to her diet - and to exercise

regularly. And drink two quarters of water daily. I would suggest strongly

that she visit the Bernstein website, read his book, read success stories

from our archives - and oh yes, read another very excellent book called " The

First Year - Type 2 Diabetes: An Essential Guide for the Newly Diagnosed, " by

Gretchen Becker. And test a lot! Vicki

..

<< Would you advise somebody to start experimenting

with different foods using BG test strips when they are feeling ill,

have no insurance, are strapped for cash maybe, and not seeing any

BGs under 200, day or night? >>

[Guest guest]

The short ansewr to your question, , is yes.

One pretty sure way to quickly reduce BGs is to drastically lower the amount

and kinds of carbs eaten. This does not cost a lot of money. But the only

way to find out exactly HOW much is to test so yes, I'd tell -- are you

listening, ?-- to cut out the " whites " from your diet to start with, i.e.

breads and grain products of all kinds, potatos, , rice, pasta and all root

veggies in addition to just about all fruits except perhaps strawberries,

raspberries and melons, in small amounts -- and of course, the usual sweet

stuff, such as cakes and cookies, etc.. This is absolutely certain to lower

her BGs. The testing is to find out how much, and what she can add back in

and in what amounts.

I know this isn't the eating plan you follow...and I'll admit there are a

few folks out there who have found success with a much less restrictive diet

and even the traditional " exchange plan " espoused by the ADA. But I'd say

they're more the exception than the rule.

Now, , it may seem that you can't eat any of your favorite foods and this

is a very restrictive way of eating -- and this is true. But when you weigh

this against the longterm consequences of uncontrolled BGs, the tradeoff is

well worth it. And it is entirely possible to eat an interesting and varied

diet within these restrictions. Many on this list do so and have done so for

extended periods of time. I myself follow a plan of about 100 carbs per day

and have eaten this way since my diagnosis four years ago. It will require a

major shift in your way of eating - but the rewards are well worth it.

So yes, I'd tell to make the above cuts to her diet - and to exercise

regularly. And drink two quarters of water daily. I would suggest strongly

that she visit the Bernstein website, read his book, read success stories

from our archives - and oh yes, read another very excellent book called " The

First Year - Type 2 Diabetes: An Essential Guide for the Newly Diagnosed, " by

Gretchen Becker. And test a lot! Vicki

..

<< Would you advise somebody to start experimenting

with different foods using BG test strips when they are feeling ill,

have no insurance, are strapped for cash maybe, and not seeing any

BGs under 200, day or night? >>

[Guest guest]

The short ansewr to your question, , is yes.

One pretty sure way to quickly reduce BGs is to drastically lower the amount

and kinds of carbs eaten. This does not cost a lot of money. But the only

way to find out exactly HOW much is to test so yes, I'd tell -- are you

listening, ?-- to cut out the " whites " from your diet to start with, i.e.

breads and grain products of all kinds, potatos, , rice, pasta and all root

veggies in addition to just about all fruits except perhaps strawberries,

raspberries and melons, in small amounts -- and of course, the usual sweet

stuff, such as cakes and cookies, etc.. This is absolutely certain to lower

her BGs. The testing is to find out how much, and what she can add back in

and in what amounts.

I know this isn't the eating plan you follow...and I'll admit there are a

few folks out there who have found success with a much less restrictive diet

and even the traditional " exchange plan " espoused by the ADA. But I'd say

they're more the exception than the rule.

Now, , it may seem that you can't eat any of your favorite foods and this

is a very restrictive way of eating -- and this is true. But when you weigh

this against the longterm consequences of uncontrolled BGs, the tradeoff is

well worth it. And it is entirely possible to eat an interesting and varied

diet within these restrictions. Many on this list do so and have done so for

extended periods of time. I myself follow a plan of about 100 carbs per day

and have eaten this way since my diagnosis four years ago. It will require a

major shift in your way of eating - but the rewards are well worth it.

So yes, I'd tell to make the above cuts to her diet - and to exercise

regularly. And drink two quarters of water daily. I would suggest strongly

that she visit the Bernstein website, read his book, read success stories

from our archives - and oh yes, read another very excellent book called " The

First Year - Type 2 Diabetes: An Essential Guide for the Newly Diagnosed, " by

Gretchen Becker. And test a lot! Vicki

..

<< Would you advise somebody to start experimenting

with different foods using BG test strips when they are feeling ill,

have no insurance, are strapped for cash maybe, and not seeing any

BGs under 200, day or night? >>

[Guest guest]

Hi, ...well, the reason for your high BGs is obvious: you're not eating

right. Was the cocoa made with sugar? Bad. the cranberry

muffins...guaranteed to raise your BG. The cokes? Unless they were diet

cokes, also guaranteed to raise your BGs. And all these things are

nutritionally lacking. Corn? Starch and carbs. Crackers? That'll raise

your BG too. And nutritionally you're (sorry 'bout this) a mess. You need

to eat balanced meals at regular times that are low in carbs and higher in

protein. No wonder you're feeling terrible! A diet like what you're eating

would make even for a healthy (non-diabetic) person feel awful.

About the only thing you mentioned eating that was diabetically okay was the

porkchop and the cheese. I think you need to be Nutritionally Educated.

Stick with us -- we'll get you down the right path and get those BGs down.

You need to eat more veggies such as spinach, broccoli, cauliflower, cabbage,

asparagus, greenbeans -- and salads. Eggs, meat, chicken, fish are fine.

There are a lot of lowcarb products that will help you along the way if you

can afford them. . Forget fruit juices. You need to be strong to take care

of your baby, so you need to eat properly. Take care. Vicki

<< My main problem with eating is not eating

and when I do it no the right things. Yesterday I had 2 cranberry muffins

left over from X-mas morning with 2 cups of cocca. Then for lunch I had

crakers and cheese with a coke. Then nothing till late last night I had

porkchops and one ear of corn. Somewhere with in the day I had another coke

which I didn't finish because I started to feel sick. Most days I don't even

eat breakfast and don't have lunch till 2pm when my dd goes down for her

nap. I >>

[Guest guest]

Hi, ...well, the reason for your high BGs is obvious: you're not eating

right. Was the cocoa made with sugar? Bad. the cranberry

muffins...guaranteed to raise your BG. The cokes? Unless they were diet

cokes, also guaranteed to raise your BGs. And all these things are

nutritionally lacking. Corn? Starch and carbs. Crackers? That'll raise

your BG too. And nutritionally you're (sorry 'bout this) a mess. You need

to eat balanced meals at regular times that are low in carbs and higher in

protein. No wonder you're feeling terrible! A diet like what you're eating

would make even for a healthy (non-diabetic) person feel awful.

About the only thing you mentioned eating that was diabetically okay was the

porkchop and the cheese. I think you need to be Nutritionally Educated.

Stick with us -- we'll get you down the right path and get those BGs down.

You need to eat more veggies such as spinach, broccoli, cauliflower, cabbage,

asparagus, greenbeans -- and salads. Eggs, meat, chicken, fish are fine.

There are a lot of lowcarb products that will help you along the way if you

can afford them. . Forget fruit juices. You need to be strong to take care

of your baby, so you need to eat properly. Take care. Vicki

<< My main problem with eating is not eating

and when I do it no the right things. Yesterday I had 2 cranberry muffins

left over from X-mas morning with 2 cups of cocca. Then for lunch I had

crakers and cheese with a coke. Then nothing till late last night I had

porkchops and one ear of corn. Somewhere with in the day I had another coke

which I didn't finish because I started to feel sick. Most days I don't even

eat breakfast and don't have lunch till 2pm when my dd goes down for her

nap. I >>

[Guest guest]

Hi, ...well, the reason for your high BGs is obvious: you're not eating

right. Was the cocoa made with sugar? Bad. the cranberry

muffins...guaranteed to raise your BG. The cokes? Unless they were diet

cokes, also guaranteed to raise your BGs. And all these things are

nutritionally lacking. Corn? Starch and carbs. Crackers? That'll raise

your BG too. And nutritionally you're (sorry 'bout this) a mess. You need

to eat balanced meals at regular times that are low in carbs and higher in

protein. No wonder you're feeling terrible! A diet like what you're eating

would make even for a healthy (non-diabetic) person feel awful.

About the only thing you mentioned eating that was diabetically okay was the

porkchop and the cheese. I think you need to be Nutritionally Educated.

Stick with us -- we'll get you down the right path and get those BGs down.

You need to eat more veggies such as spinach, broccoli, cauliflower, cabbage,

asparagus, greenbeans -- and salads. Eggs, meat, chicken, fish are fine.

There are a lot of lowcarb products that will help you along the way if you

can afford them. . Forget fruit juices. You need to be strong to take care

of your baby, so you need to eat properly. Take care. Vicki

<< My main problem with eating is not eating

and when I do it no the right things. Yesterday I had 2 cranberry muffins

left over from X-mas morning with 2 cups of cocca. Then for lunch I had

crakers and cheese with a coke. Then nothing till late last night I had

porkchops and one ear of corn. Somewhere with in the day I had another coke

which I didn't finish because I started to feel sick. Most days I don't even

eat breakfast and don't have lunch till 2pm when my dd goes down for her

nap. I >>

[Guest guest]

hope you find help soon. Surely if someone can't afford things the

government will help over there. I find this tragic. We're supposed to be so

civilised in the west yet we can't look after our own.

Ruth

[Guest guest]

hope you find help soon. Surely if someone can't afford things the

government will help over there. I find this tragic. We're supposed to be so

civilised in the west yet we can't look after our own.

Ruth

[Guest guest]

hope you find help soon. Surely if someone can't afford things the

government will help over there. I find this tragic. We're supposed to be so

civilised in the west yet we can't look after our own.

Ruth

[Guest guest]

> I've got to disagree with you here,

> ...urine tests won't let you know

> with any specificity how different

> foods affect your BGs. A meter and

> strips are absolutely critical in order

> to make good food choices to lower BGs.

I quite agree with you. I was thinking more of an early warning of

big trouble ahead, Vicki. said she was feeling ill and cost was

a big consideration. Would you advise somebody to start experimenting

with different foods using BG test strips when they are feeling ill,

have no insurance, are strapped for cash maybe, and not seeing any

BGs under 200, day or night?

> Frequent testing with a meter will

> keep you from getting to that point.

OK, but in my opinion, with fasting BGs of well over 200 and getting

no treatment, she is almost there already. If the " feeling ill " part

is due to an impending infection then she may not even be eating very

much.

[Guest guest]

> I've got to disagree with you here,

> ...urine tests won't let you know

> with any specificity how different

> foods affect your BGs. A meter and

> strips are absolutely critical in order

> to make good food choices to lower BGs.

I quite agree with you. I was thinking more of an early warning of

big trouble ahead, Vicki. said she was feeling ill and cost was

a big consideration. Would you advise somebody to start experimenting

with different foods using BG test strips when they are feeling ill,

have no insurance, are strapped for cash maybe, and not seeing any

BGs under 200, day or night?

> Frequent testing with a meter will

> keep you from getting to that point.

OK, but in my opinion, with fasting BGs of well over 200 and getting

no treatment, she is almost there already. If the " feeling ill " part

is due to an impending infection then she may not even be eating very

much.

[Guest guest]

> I've got to disagree with you here,

> ...urine tests won't let you know

> with any specificity how different

> foods affect your BGs. A meter and

> strips are absolutely critical in order

> to make good food choices to lower BGs.

I quite agree with you. I was thinking more of an early warning of

big trouble ahead, Vicki. said she was feeling ill and cost was

a big consideration. Would you advise somebody to start experimenting

with different foods using BG test strips when they are feeling ill,

have no insurance, are strapped for cash maybe, and not seeing any

BGs under 200, day or night?

> Frequent testing with a meter will

> keep you from getting to that point.

OK, but in my opinion, with fasting BGs of well over 200 and getting

no treatment, she is almost there already. If the " feeling ill " part

is due to an impending infection then she may not even be eating very

much.

[Guest guest]

Hi,

Thank you for replying to my message. I will try to reply to everyone in

one message. I hope I don't miss anyone. I am typing fast, while Dh finishes

giving our dd a bath.

Still no luck with getting my sugar down. It has stayed around 250 all give

or take a few points. I have been drinking water like crazy trying to flush

my system out. My husband called my Dr today,he said for me to be at his

office first thing Monday morning. So we will see what happens there. I am

over weight I lost a lot of weight during my pregnancy. But I have been

gaining it back since the birth. My main problem with eating is not eating

and when I do it no the right things. Yesterday I had 2 cranberry muffins

left over from X-mas morning with 2 cups of cocca. Then for lunch I had

crakers and cheese with a coke. Then nothing till late last night I had

porkchops and one ear of corn. Somewhere with in the day I had another coke

which I didn't finish because I started to feel sick. Most days I don't even

eat breakfast and don't have lunch till 2pm when my dd goes down for her

nap. I have polystic ovarin diease, which I am finding out has a BIG roll in

me having diabetes. I also have a family Hx of it as well. I have not taken

any classes at the monent but hope to find out more Monday after the Dr

visit.Well I need to go help Dh with our baby. If i missed anything let me

know.

Thanks again everyone!

[Guest guest]

Hi,

Thank you for replying to my message. I will try to reply to everyone in

one message. I hope I don't miss anyone. I am typing fast, while Dh finishes

giving our dd a bath.

Still no luck with getting my sugar down. It has stayed around 250 all give

or take a few points. I have been drinking water like crazy trying to flush

my system out. My husband called my Dr today,he said for me to be at his

office first thing Monday morning. So we will see what happens there. I am

over weight I lost a lot of weight during my pregnancy. But I have been

gaining it back since the birth. My main problem with eating is not eating

and when I do it no the right things. Yesterday I had 2 cranberry muffins

left over from X-mas morning with 2 cups of cocca. Then for lunch I had

crakers and cheese with a coke. Then nothing till late last night I had

porkchops and one ear of corn. Somewhere with in the day I had another coke

which I didn't finish because I started to feel sick. Most days I don't even

eat breakfast and don't have lunch till 2pm when my dd goes down for her

nap. I have polystic ovarin diease, which I am finding out has a BIG roll in

me having diabetes. I also have a family Hx of it as well. I have not taken

any classes at the monent but hope to find out more Monday after the Dr

visit.Well I need to go help Dh with our baby. If i missed anything let me

know.

Thanks again everyone!