Guest guest Posted April 8, 2004 Report Share Posted April 8, 2004 I get up and feel better today, but still suicidal. I don't have energy. I can't smile. All the bad things happened in my life appear in my brain again and again... I have followed the protocaol of Andy's. Yesterday I started another round of chelation again. I lowered the dosage and take it more frequently. I hope I will feel better soon, and not to hurt somebody. I feel violent also. Thanks for your care. Chan. > Did you increase the dose you are using? Are you using enough vitamin c and vitamin e etc.? Are you using ALA every 3 hours? Or DMSA every 4 hours? Or DMPS every 8 hours? Did you have all your amalgam removed before you started to chelate? If you are using ALA - did you wait for at least 3 months after amalgam removal before you started chelation? > > If I was felling really bad with chelation, I would consider to reduce the dosage, to take the chelator more frequently during the rounds, possibly to do longer rounds and to have longer breaks in between. I might also increase vitamin c ect. > > I hope find a way of feeling better again soon. > > All the best, > > Dagmar. > [ ] Suicide > > > Dear all, > > I am now on the 11 rounds of chelation. I felt so good when I had > completed the 5 round of chelation. However, since the completion of > 7 round, I got so much suicidal thought. I want to committ suicide > now. I feel I am nothing. I am a rubbish in this world. I have been > poisoned with mercury chronically by the amalgam filling since I was > 8. It is 20 years now. I studied a lot of stuff about mercury > poisoning symptoms. I got ALL. I have been very ill physically and > mentally. I have been very easily upset and embarassed. I think very > negatively. I now feel that eveyone hates me. I have no hope. What > happened to me. I know my OCD returned recently, and it is much > stronger. What happened? Will I get better when I go on for some > more rounds of chelation? > > Thanks, > Chan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 8, 2004 Report Share Posted April 8, 2004 I've just read p.52. I hope I will feel better soon. My recent life is terrible. Can't think. Can do no job. I will try to do some work out later. Thanks, Chan. > If you will check page 52 of my book Amalgam Illness (see > www.noamalgam.com for info on the book) you'll see you get better, then > worse, then better again. You did the better then worse, stick with it > and you'll be better again. No need to do yourself in! Just chelate > and do in the mercury. > > Inositol, 5 hydroxytryptopan, tryptophan, and SSRI antidepressants > often help with this kind of issue. Sometimes forskolin does as well. > Also, chocolate does promote a normal healthy feeling of well being and > if you aren't a sulfur intolerant person you may wish to supplement > your diet with a nicely therapeutic chocolate bar (dark chocolate, read > ingredients carefully) now and again. > > Andy . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . > > > Dear all, > > > > I am now on the 11 rounds of chelation. I felt so good when I had > > completed the 5 round of chelation. However, since the completion of > > 7 round, I got so much suicidal thought. I want to committ suicide > > now. I feel I am nothing. I am a rubbish in this world. I have been > > poisoned with mercury chronically by the amalgam filling since I was > > 8. It is 20 years now. I studied a lot of stuff about mercury > > poisoning symptoms. I got ALL. I have been very ill physically and > > mentally. I have been very easily upset and embarassed. I think very > > negatively. I now feel that eveyone hates me. I have no hope. What > > happened to me. I know my OCD returned recently, and it is much > > stronger. What happened? Will I get better when I go on for some > > more rounds of chelation? > > Yes. Better, then worse, then better. You are 2/3 of the way there. . > . . .. > > > > Thanks, > > Chan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 8, 2004 Report Share Posted April 8, 2004 Thanks for your care. I will try to live a better life. Chan. > > Dear all, > > > > I am now on the 11 rounds of chelation. I felt so good when I had > > completed the 5 round of chelation. However, since the completion > of > > 7 round, I got so much suicidal thought. I want to committ suicide > > now. I feel I am nothing. I am a rubbish in this world. I have been > > poisoned with mercury chronically by the amalgam filling since I > was > > 8. It is 20 years now. I studied a lot of stuff about mercury > > poisoning symptoms. I got ALL. I have been very ill physically and > > mentally. I have been very easily upset and embarassed. I think > very > > negatively. I now feel that eveyone hates me. I have no hope. What > > happened to me. I know my OCD returned recently, and it is much > > stronger. What happened? Will I get better when I go on for some > > more rounds of chelation? > > > > Thanks, > > Chan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 9, 2004 Report Share Posted April 9, 2004 Let me express myself. I am now about 30. I didn't know I am a psycho until about a year ago. Before that I felt I was just immature mentally. Now I know I have been controlled by the mercury for 20 years. I acted like a devil. My mood swing and selective mutism made a lot of people afriad of me and hate me. I didn't want to be like that. I wanted to be friendly with people. I just can't. Now I know I am crazy. I feel so sorry for those people I've hurt before. They will not forgive me. They hate me. But I myself a victim. What should I do? Who will compensate for me? Who will compensate for those I've hurt? Many times I even can't say hi to people. People think I am queer. I just lacking self-confidence. After the completion of round 4 chelation, I felt the world is so bright and can think positively. I felt that my life is hopeful. But I am now depressed again. I feel crazy. My perfectionistic-obession returned. The OCD tortured me for 20 years, and it is now much stronger.... What will I be tomorrow? Chan. > Hey! You stop that right now. There's no whimping out around here. As long as you have faith who cares what the mind thinks? > > Read this: > > 2Tm 1:7 For God hath not given us the spirit of fear; but of power, and of love, and of a sound mind. > > Be strong in faith. God is still on the throne and prayer changes things. > > > The Epistle of to the Hebrews Chapter 11 > > 1: Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen. > 2: For by it the elders obtained a good report. > 3: Through faith we understand that the worlds were framed by the word of God, so that things which are seen were not made of things which do appear. > 4: By faith Abel offered unto God a more excellent sacrifice than Cain, by which he obtained witness that he was righteous, God testifying of his gifts: and by it he being dead yet speaketh. > 5: By faith Enoch was translated that he should not see death; and was not found, because God had translated him: for before his translation he had this testimony, that he pleased God. > 6: But without faith it is impossible to please him: for he that cometh to God must believe that he is, and that he is a rewarder of them that diligently seek him. > 7: By faith Noah, being warned of God of things not seen as yet, moved with fear, prepared an ark to the saving of his house; by the which he condemned the world, and became heir of the righteousness which is by faith. > 8: By faith Abraham, when he was called to go out into a place which he should after receive for an inheritance, obeyed; and he went out, not knowing whither he went. > 9: By faith he sojourned in the land of promise, as in a strange country, dwelling in tabernacles with Isaac and , the heirs with him of the same promise: > 10: For he looked for a city which hath foundations, whose builder and maker is God. > 11: Through faith also Sara herself received strength to conceive seed, and was delivered of a child when she was past age, because she judged him faithful who had promised. > 12: Therefore sprang there even of one, and him as good as dead, so many as the stars of the sky in multitude, and as the sand which is by the sea shore innumerable. > 13: These all died in faith, not having received the promises, but having seen them afar off, and were persuaded of them, and embraced them, and confessed that they were strangers and pilgrims on the earth. > 14: For they that say such things declare plainly that they seek a country. > 15: And truly, if they had been mindful of that country from whence they came out, they might have had opportunity to have returned. > 16: But now they desire a better country, that is, an heavenly: wherefore God is not ashamed to be called their God: for he hath prepared for them a city. > 17: By faith Abraham, when he was tried, offered up Isaac: and he that had received the promises offered up his only begotten son, > 18: Of whom it was said, That in Isaac shall thy seed be called: > 19: Accounting that God was able to raise him up, even from the dead; from whence also he received him in a figure. > 20: By faith Isaac blessed and Esau concerning things to come. > 21: By faith , when he was a dying, blessed both the sons of ph; and worshipped, leaning upon the top of his staff. > 22: By faith ph, when he died, made mention of the departing of the children of Israel; and gave commandment concerning his bones. > 23: By faith Moses, when he was born, was hid three months of his parents, because they saw he was a proper child; and they were not afraid of the king's commandment. > 24: By faith Moses, when he was come to years, refused to be called the son of Pharaoh's daughter; > 25: Choosing rather to suffer affliction with the people of God, than to enjoy the pleasures of sin for a season; > 26: Esteeming the reproach of Christ greater riches than the treasures in Egypt: for he had respect unto the recompence of the reward. > 27: By faith he forsook Egypt, not fearing the wrath of the king: for he endured, as seeing him who is invisible. > 28: Through faith he kept the passover, and the sprinkling of blood, lest he that destroyed the firstborn should touch them. > 29: By faith they passed through the Red sea as by dry land: which the Egyptians assaying to do were drowned. > 30: By faith the walls of Jericho fell down, after they were compassed about seven days. > 31: By faith the harlot Rahab perished not with them that believed not, when she had received the spies with peace. > 32: And what shall I more say? for the time would fail me to tell of Gedeon, and of Barak, and of Samson, and of Jephthae; of also, and , and of the prophets: > 33: Who through faith subdued kingdoms, wrought righteousness, obtained promises, stopped the mouths of lions, > 34: Quenched the violence of fire, escaped the edge of the sword, out of weakness were made strong, waxed valiant in fight, turned to flight the armies of the aliens. > 35: Women received their dead raised to life again: and others were tortured, not accepting deliverance; that they might obtain a better resurrection: > 36: And others had trial of cruel mockings and scourgings, yea, moreover of bonds and imprisonment: > 37: They were stoned, they were sawn asunder, were tempted, were slain with the sword: they wandered about in sheepskins and goatskins; being destitute, afflicted, tormented; > 38: (Of whom the world was not worthy:) they wandered in deserts, and in mountains, and in dens and caves of the earth. > 39: And these all, having obtained a good report through faith, received not the promise: > 40: God having provided some better thing for us, that they without us should not be made perfect. > [ ] Suicide > > > Dear all, > > I am now on the 11 rounds of chelation. I felt so good when I had > completed the 5 round of chelation. However, since the completion of > 7 round, I got so much suicidal thought. I want to committ suicide > now. I feel I am nothing. I am a rubbish in this world. I have been > poisoned with mercury chronically by the amalgam filling since I was > 8. It is 20 years now. I studied a lot of stuff about mercury > poisoning symptoms. I got ALL. I have been very ill physically and > mentally. I have been very easily upset and embarassed. I think very > negatively. I now feel that eveyone hates me. I have no hope. What > happened to me. I know my OCD returned recently, and it is much > stronger. What happened? Will I get better when I go on for some > more rounds of chelation? > > Thanks, > Chan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 9, 2004 Report Share Posted April 9, 2004 Chan, A bunch of questions for you...How many fillings did you have? How long ago did you have them removed? Did the dentist use proper protocol? What did he or she replace them with? What chelating agent do you use? What dose? What schedule? Any supplements? Did you have a hair analysis? What other metals did it show as high? Do you know of other metal exposures? How's your diet? Do you smoke? Do you have any tattoos? (the ink contains mercury) Have you had any vaccines recently? S <tt> Dear all,<BR> <BR> I am now on the 11 rounds of chelation. I felt so good when I had <BR> completed the 5 round of chelation. However, since the completion of <BR> 7 round, I got so much suicidal thought. I want to committ suicide <BR> now. I feel I am nothing. I am a rubbish in this world. I have been <BR> poisoned with mercury chronically by the amalgam filling since I was <BR> 8. It is 20 years now. I studied a lot of stuff about mercury <BR> poisoning symptoms. I got ALL. I have been very ill physically and <BR> mentally. I have been very easily upset and embarassed. I think very <BR> negatively. I now feel that eveyone hates me. I have no hope. What <BR> happened to me. I know my OCD returned recently, and it is much <BR> stronger. What happened? Will I get better when I go on for some <BR> more rounds of chelation?<BR> <BR> Thanks,<BR> Chan.<BR> <BR> </tt> <br><br> <tt> =======================================================<BR> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 9, 2004 Report Share Posted April 9, 2004 During this type of OCD episode, the best course of action is to seek MEDICAL advice. First, one needs to be stabilized to calm down the fires of OCD. For that, make an emergency appointment with a Psychiatrist or Psychoneurologist. This should be done without hesitation. Next, make an appointment with a good infectious disease/internal medicine specialist [MD] and get an extensive blood work up. Tell the physician that you have been chelating. This is not a " pull yourself up by your bootstraps " kind of thing. I would greatly suggest you seek medical help from an MD immediately. Please take care................................... > Let me express myself. > > I am now about 30. I didn't know I am a psycho until about a year > ago. Before that I felt I was just immature mentally. Now I know I > have been controlled by the mercury for 20 years. I acted like a > devil. My mood swing and selective mutism made a lot of people afriad > of me and hate me. I didn't want to be like that. I wanted to be > friendly with people. I just can't. Now I know I am crazy. I feel so > sorry for those people I've hurt before. They will not forgive me. > They hate me. But I myself a victim. What should I do? Who will > compensate for me? Who will compensate for those I've hurt? Many > times I even can't say hi to people. People think I am queer. I just > lacking self-confidence. After the completion of round 4 chelation, I > felt the world is so bright and can think positively. I felt that my > life is hopeful. But I am now depressed again. I feel crazy. My > perfectionistic-obession returned. The OCD tortured me for 20 years, > and it is now much stronger.... What will I be tomorrow? > > Chan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 9, 2004 Report Share Posted April 9, 2004 Take care of yourself, Chan. We're all pulling for you. People care about you! Barb [ ] Re: Suicide > Thanks for your care. I will try to live a better life. > > Chan. > > > > > Dear all, > > > > > > I am now on the 11 rounds of chelation. I felt so good when I had > > > completed the 5 round of chelation. However, since the completion > > of > > > 7 round, I got so much suicidal thought. I want to committ > suicide > > > now. I feel I am nothing. I am a rubbish in this world. I have > been > > > poisoned with mercury chronically by the amalgam filling since I > > was > > > 8. It is 20 years now. I studied a lot of stuff about mercury > > > poisoning symptoms. I got ALL. I have been very ill physically > and > > > mentally. I have been very easily upset and embarassed. I think > > very > > > negatively. I now feel that eveyone hates me. I have no hope. > What > > > happened to me. I know my OCD returned recently, and it is much > > > stronger. What happened? Will I get better when I go on for some > > > more rounds of chelation? > > > > > > Thanks, > > > Chan. > > > > > ======================================================= > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 9, 2004 Report Share Posted April 9, 2004 As you get the mercury out, and remineralize your body, taking rests as needed, you will begin to feel better and better. Just be careful and go low and slow, using all the supports Andy talks about. Barb [ ] Suicide > > > > > > Dear all, > > > > I am now on the 11 rounds of chelation. I felt so good when I had > > completed the 5 round of chelation. However, since the completion > of > > 7 round, I got so much suicidal thought. I want to committ > suicide > > now. I feel I am nothing. I am a rubbish in this world. I have > been > > poisoned with mercury chronically by the amalgam filling since I > was > > 8. It is 20 years now. I studied a lot of stuff about mercury > > poisoning symptoms. I got ALL. I have been very ill physically > and > > mentally. I have been very easily upset and embarassed. I think > very > > negatively. I now feel that eveyone hates me. I have no hope. > What > > happened to me. I know my OCD returned recently, and it is much > > stronger. What happened? Will I get better when I go on for some > > more rounds of chelation? > > > > Thanks, > > Chan. > > > > > ======================================================= > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 9, 2004 Report Share Posted April 9, 2004 Chan, There is an organization called True Hope. Their we site is www.truehope.com. They may be able to help you by at least providing a balanced supplement. I wonder if your minerals are getting too depleted from the chelation. Are you supplementing with a vitamin and mineral? When you chelate you lose good minerals as well. My sister is going through a similar situation as you. Do you have anyone to go to for support? Please hang in there, and if you are doing this on your own, I'd suggest that you go see an alternative doctor in your area who can help get your chemistry balanced again. I know that for many people with high yeast and or bacteria overgrowth, the DMSA can be disastrous. My son had behavioral changes after just a three day course. If you need help finding a doctor or a support system for yourself while you are going through this, please feel free to contact me off line. krisyd@... Remember that this is just a season in your life that will pass. Kris ________________________________________________________________ The best thing to hit the Internet in years - Juno SpeedBand! Surf the Web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER! Only $14.95/ month - visit www.juno.com to sign up today! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 9, 2004 Report Share Posted April 9, 2004 >>I acted like a > devil. My mood swing and selective mutism made a lot of people afriad > of me and hate me. I was sort of the opposite, I was afraid of other people. >> I didn't want to be like that. I wanted to be > friendly with people. I just can't. I can't either, so I stopped trying. I figured " why try if I will just fail " . I don't try any more to be *friendly*, but I do try to be *professional*. I don't care anymore if other people like me, I focus on " not standing out in the crowd " [which can be VERY difficult]. This works for me. >>I just > lacking self-confidence. I had a phone conversation yesterday with one of the partners in my law firm. He said our clients tell him I am a very good attorney [they like me LOL, and I am not even trying!] but I " lack self-confidence " . I told this to a law student who I am tutoring for the Bar Exam [he is a medical doctor who wants to be an attorney, go figure], he laughed and said " I sure don't see lack of self-confidence with you " . Life is too confusing. But I will take the compliment LOL I would not worry so much about lacking self-confidence. Try to find something you are good at, and stick with it. For areas where you WANT to improve, start VERY SMALL and gradually work up. I can give you ideas on doing this, if you want. For example, I have been afraid of people for almost my entire life. Now I am a trial attorney and I can go into a courtroom and not collapse or cry if the judge asks me a question that I was not anticipating. I have even argued my position with a judge for 45 minutes [with an entire courtroom full of other attorneys watching] and I swayed him to agree with me! After the completion of round 4 chelation, I > felt the world is so bright and can think positively. I felt that my > life is hopeful. But I am now depressed again. I have been there, I won't write much about it on a public message board. But I can give you ideas, if you want. Send me a private email, either by using this email address here in this message, or send me an email from my site http://www.danasview.net/ Basically I try to remember that life is not friendly, and neither are people. I do the best I can, I define the word " friend " as " a person who tolerates my presence " , and I avoid people who are against me. Good luck. Dana Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 9, 2004 Report Share Posted April 9, 2004 Chan, Where do you live, if you don't mind me asking. May be meeting with someone from the site in person would be helpful. Sometimes things get so rough when your going through this a lone. It is always encouraging to hear from someone else that they have been where you are and have pulled through. SUPPORT to so important for you right now. Please send me more information like your phone number, and I will find someone to help support you through this. krisyd@... Thanks, Kris ________________________________________________________________ The best thing to hit the Internet in years - Juno SpeedBand! Surf the Web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER! Only $14.95/ month - visit www.juno.com to sign up today! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 9, 2004 Report Share Posted April 9, 2004 Let me express myself. I am now about 30. I didn't know I am a psycho until about a year ago. Before that I felt I was just immature mentally. Now I know I have been controlled by the mercury for 20 years. I acted like a devil. My mood swing and selective mutism made a lot of people afriad of me and hate me. I didn't want to be like that. I wanted to be friendly with people. I just can't. Now I know I am crazy. I feel so sorry for those people I've hurt before. They will not forgive me. They hate me. But I myself a victim. What should I do? Who will compensate for me? Who will compensate for those I've hurt? Many times I even can't say hi to people. People think I am queer. I just lacking self-confidence. After the completion of round 4 chelation, I felt the world is so bright and can think positively. I felt that my life is hopeful. But I am now depressed again. I feel crazy. My perfectionistic-obession returned. The OCD tortured me for 20 years, and it is now much stronger.... What will I be tomorrow? Chan. If you feel sorry for the people you've hurt then you aren't crazy, it means you have a good working conscience. Some people are so blind that it's as if their conscience is seared with a hot iron. If your conscience condemns you that means your " eyes " are open. Certainly the answer isn't to kill yourself, but rather seek the forgiveness of those your hurt and try to make amends. Rom 13:12 The night is far spent, the day is at hand: let us therefore cast off the works of darkness, and let us put on the armour of light. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 9, 2004 Report Share Posted April 9, 2004 In a message dated 4/8/2004 8:36:57 PM Central Daylight Time, robertbloch@... writes: Hey! You stop that right now. There's no whimping out around here. As long as you have faith who cares what the mind thinks? Are you serious? Did you overlook the part that Jesus is the author and finisher of our faith? How do you even know that Chan is a christian? Or did you just assume it? Chan can no more muster up any more faith than he has right now unless Jesus supplies it. It's this sort of reply and platitudes offered when someone is in serious pain and agony that give Christians as a whole a bad name. How about getting in the ditch of Chan's suffering and offering him a rope to grab a hold to and help him pull himself out..........that is real christianity......... not just some well intentioned scripture platitudes which I'm sure you meant well and only had good intentions and you obviously thought it was the right thing to do or you wouldn't have done it. But it comes across terribly insensitive to his ordeal and gives the general impression that you lack a complete awareness of his reality. Perhaps if Chan is a christian then this might help.......and if he is and I'm speaking out of line, then please forgive me. But this just hit me wrong and I am a devout christian for 27 years now. Get in the ditch and help the brother out of it and stop shouting platitudes from the bank.....that is what Jesus would do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 9, 2004 Report Share Posted April 9, 2004 THAT was TERRIBLE. People in this condition are toxic and don't need to be condescended to by people who aren't. My jaw literally dropped at your nerve. UNNNNNbelievable. > Hey! You stop that right now. There's no whimping out around here. As long as you have faith who cares what the mind thinks? > > Read this: > > 2Tm 1:7 For God hath not given us the spirit of fear; but of power, and of love, and of a sound mind. > > Be strong in faith. God is still on the throne and prayer changes things. > > > The Epistle of to the Hebrews Chapter 11 > > 1: Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen. > 2: For by it the elders obtained a good report. > 3: Through faith we understand that the worlds were framed by the word of God, so that things which are seen were not made of things which do appear. > 4: By faith Abel offered unto God a more excellent sacrifice than Cain, by which he obtained witness that he was righteous, God testifying of his gifts: and by it he being dead yet speaketh. > 5: By faith Enoch was translated that he should not see death; and was not found, because God had translated him: for before his translation he had this testimony, that he pleased God. > 6: But without faith it is impossible to please him: for he that cometh to God must believe that he is, and that he is a rewarder of them that diligently seek him. > 7: By faith Noah, being warned of God of things not seen as yet, moved with fear, prepared an ark to the saving of his house; by the which he condemned the world, and became heir of the righteousness which is by faith. > 8: By faith Abraham, when he was called to go out into a place which he should after receive for an inheritance, obeyed; and he went out, not knowing whither he went. > 9: By faith he sojourned in the land of promise, as in a strange country, dwelling in tabernacles with Isaac and , the heirs with him of the same promise: > 10: For he looked for a city which hath foundations, whose builder and maker is God. > 11: Through faith also Sara herself received strength to conceive seed, and was delivered of a child when she was past age, because she judged him faithful who had promised. > 12: Therefore sprang there even of one, and him as good as dead, so many as the stars of the sky in multitude, and as the sand which is by the sea shore innumerable. > 13: These all died in faith, not having received the promises, but having seen them afar off, and were persuaded of them, and embraced them, and confessed that they were strangers and pilgrims on the earth. > 14: For they that say such things declare plainly that they seek a country. > 15: And truly, if they had been mindful of that country from whence they came out, they might have had opportunity to have returned. > 16: But now they desire a better country, that is, an heavenly: wherefore God is not ashamed to be called their God: for he hath prepared for them a city. > 17: By faith Abraham, when he was tried, offered up Isaac: and he that had received the promises offered up his only begotten son, > 18: Of whom it was said, That in Isaac shall thy seed be called: > 19: Accounting that God was able to raise him up, even from the dead; from whence also he received him in a figure. > 20: By faith Isaac blessed and Esau concerning things to come. > 21: By faith , when he was a dying, blessed both the sons of ph; and worshipped, leaning upon the top of his staff. > 22: By faith ph, when he died, made mention of the departing of the children of Israel; and gave commandment concerning his bones. > 23: By faith Moses, when he was born, was hid three months of his parents, because they saw he was a proper child; and they were not afraid of the king's commandment. > 24: By faith Moses, when he was come to years, refused to be called the son of Pharaoh's daughter; > 25: Choosing rather to suffer affliction with the people of God, than to enjoy the pleasures of sin for a season; > 26: Esteeming the reproach of Christ greater riches than the treasures in Egypt: for he had respect unto the recompence of the reward. > 27: By faith he forsook Egypt, not fearing the wrath of the king: for he endured, as seeing him who is invisible. > 28: Through faith he kept the passover, and the sprinkling of blood, lest he that destroyed the firstborn should touch them. > 29: By faith they passed through the Red sea as by dry land: which the Egyptians assaying to do were drowned. > 30: By faith the walls of Jericho fell down, after they were compassed about seven days. > 31: By faith the harlot Rahab perished not with them that believed not, when she had received the spies with peace. > 32: And what shall I more say? for the time would fail me to tell of Gedeon, and of Barak, and of Samson, and of Jephthae; of also, and , and of the prophets: > 33: Who through faith subdued kingdoms, wrought righteousness, obtained promises, stopped the mouths of lions, > 34: Quenched the violence of fire, escaped the edge of the sword, out of weakness were made strong, waxed valiant in fight, turned to flight the armies of the aliens. > 35: Women received their dead raised to life again: and others were tortured, not accepting deliverance; that they might obtain a better resurrection: > 36: And others had trial of cruel mockings and scourgings, yea, moreover of bonds and imprisonment: > 37: They were stoned, they were sawn asunder, were tempted, were slain with the sword: they wandered about in sheepskins and goatskins; being destitute, afflicted, tormented; > 38: (Of whom the world was not worthy:) they wandered in deserts, and in mountains, and in dens and caves of the earth. > 39: And these all, having obtained a good report through faith, received not the promise: > 40: God having provided some better thing for us, that they without us should not be made perfect. > [ ] Suicide > > > Dear all, > > I am now on the 11 rounds of chelation. I felt so good when I had > completed the 5 round of chelation. However, since the completion of > 7 round, I got so much suicidal thought. I want to committ suicide > now. I feel I am nothing. I am a rubbish in this world. I have been > poisoned with mercury chronically by the amalgam filling since I was > 8. It is 20 years now. I studied a lot of stuff about mercury > poisoning symptoms. I got ALL. I have been very ill physically and > mentally. I have been very easily upset and embarassed. I think very > negatively. I now feel that eveyone hates me. I have no hope. What > happened to me. I know my OCD returned recently, and it is much > stronger. What happened? Will I get better when I go on for some > more rounds of chelation? > > Thanks, > Chan. > > > > ======================================================= > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 9, 2004 Report Share Posted April 9, 2004 Chan, You are not crazy. I had exactly the same thing. I was really homicidal as well as suicidal. I think some of us have the genetics toward rage disorders and when we get toxic it's how we manifest it. People who don't have that genetic predisposition don't understand how bad it gets. My mother is very toxic but has never had a moment of depression in her life. When it gets bad, just hold onto something and promise yourself you will not let go of it until it passes. It's sheer hell. I know. I do. Yes, you'll be a little worse when you cut back. Then better. It will pass, I promise. Jen > > Did you increase the dose you are using? Are you using enough > vitamin c and vitamin e etc.? Are you using ALA every 3 hours? Or > DMSA every 4 hours? Or DMPS every 8 hours? Did you have all your > amalgam removed before you started to chelate? If you are using ALA - > did you wait for at least 3 months after amalgam removal before you > started chelation? > > > > If I was felling really bad with chelation, I would consider to > reduce the dosage, to take the chelator more frequently during the > rounds, possibly to do longer rounds and to have longer breaks in > between. I might also increase vitamin c ect. > > > > I hope find a way of feeling better again soon. > > > > All the best, > > > > Dagmar. > > [ ] Suicide > > > > > > Dear all, > > > > I am now on the 11 rounds of chelation. I felt so good when I had > > completed the 5 round of chelation. However, since the completion > of > > 7 round, I got so much suicidal thought. I want to committ > suicide > > now. I feel I am nothing. I am a rubbish in this world. I have > been > > poisoned with mercury chronically by the amalgam filling since I > was > > 8. It is 20 years now. I studied a lot of stuff about mercury > > poisoning symptoms. I got ALL. I have been very ill physically > and > > mentally. I have been very easily upset and embarassed. I think > very > > negatively. I now feel that eveyone hates me. I have no hope. > What > > happened to me. I know my OCD returned recently, and it is much > > stronger. What happened? Will I get better when I go on for some > > more rounds of chelation? > > > > Thanks, > > Chan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 9, 2004 Report Share Posted April 9, 2004 Make sure you are getting enough magnesium! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 9, 2004 Report Share Posted April 9, 2004 Chan, it's very important that you are getting enough vitamins and minerals. If I get too low I get symptomatic again. The symptoms are from the mercury yes, but more specifically from the deficiencies that result from the toxicity and they can be addressed. If it's any consolation, you are normal. Many of us could not work for years. Just focus on getting well. Things do get better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 9, 2004 Report Share Posted April 9, 2004 Chan, you can deal with the people you've hurt later. They will understand when they see you healthy and different. Don't worry about that now. Take care of you. Get some support, you can write me anytime. I had the very same experience you have. I was the same way. Please feel like you can write anytime. Try to find some kind of fast absorbing mineral mix (like for after exercise -- " electrolytes " to keep your body chemistry stable. B vitamins are also very important where the " psycho " stuff is concerned. The most harmful deficiencies, in my experience, are the B-vitamins and the magnesium. I was also my sickest at age 30. I'm 37 now and doing great. Hold on. Try to remember that this is not YOU, it's not you Chan, it's not who you are. You *are* sick and people *will* understand one day. Take this one day at a time and you will find your way out. I'm here if you need me... Jen > > > > Let me express myself. > > I am now about 30. I didn't know I am a psycho until about a year > ago. Before that I felt I was just immature mentally. Now I know I > have been controlled by the mercury for 20 years. I acted like a > devil. My mood swing and selective mutism made a lot of people afriad > of me and hate me. I didn't want to be like that. I wanted to be > friendly with people. I just can't. Now I know I am crazy. I feel so > sorry for those people I've hurt before. They will not forgive me. > They hate me. But I myself a victim. What should I do? Who will > compensate for me? Who will compensate for those I've hurt? Many > times I even can't say hi to people. People think I am queer. I just > lacking self-confidence. After the completion of round 4 chelation, I > felt the world is so bright and can think positively. I felt that my > life is hopeful. But I am now depressed again. I feel crazy. My > perfectionistic-obession returned. The OCD tortured me for 20 years, > and it is now much stronger.... What will I be tomorrow? > > Chan. > If you feel sorry for the people you've hurt then you aren't crazy, it means you have a good working conscience. Some people are so blind that it's as if their conscience is seared with a hot iron. > > If your conscience condemns you that means your " eyes " are open. Certainly the answer isn't to kill yourself, but rather seek the forgiveness of those your hurt and try to make amends. > > > Rom 13:12 The night is far spent, the day is at hand: let us therefore cast off the works of darkness, and let us put on the armour of light. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 10, 2004 Report Share Posted April 10, 2004 > > <tt> > Dear all,<BR> > <BR> > I am now on the 11 rounds of chelation. I felt so good when I had <BR> > completed the 5 round of chelation. However, since the completion of <BR> > 7 round, I got so much suicidal thought. I want to committ suicide <BR> > now. I feel I am nothing. I am a rubbish in this world. I have been <BR> > poisoned with mercury chronically by the amalgam filling since I was <BR> > 8. It is 20 years now. I studied a lot of stuff about mercury <BR> > poisoning symptoms. I got ALL. I have been very ill physically and <BR> > mentally. I have been very easily upset and embarassed. I think very <BR> > negatively. I now feel that eveyone hates me. I have no hope. What <BR> > happened to me. I know my OCD returned recently, and it is much <BR> > stronger. What happened? Will I get better when I go on for some <BR> > more rounds of chelation?<BR> > <BR> > Thanks,<BR> > Chan.<BR> > <BR> > </tt> > > <br><br> > <tt> > =======================================================<BR> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 10, 2004 Report Share Posted April 10, 2004 I am living in Hong Kong. I had talked with some friends and called the Samarian. I feel much better when I read the replies for me here. Thanks a lot for everyone's care. Chan. > Please call someone close to you, a friend a minister or relative and reach > out to them immediately. Let them know that you are going through a > difficult phase in your treatment and NEED some support. Spending the night > or weekend with someone you can talk to will lift your spirits. If that is > not an option call the number listed here. > http://suicidehotlines.com/national.html right now. Moving forward is not > always possible without a little assistance. The call will only take you a > minute. > > Valeri > [ ] Suicide > > > Dear all, > > I am now on the 11 rounds of chelation. I felt so good when I had > completed the 5 round of chelation. However, since the completion of > 7 round, I got so much suicidal thought. I want to committ suicide > now. I feel I am nothing. I am a rubbish in this world. I have been > poisoned with mercury chronically by the amalgam filling since I was > 8. It is 20 years now. I studied a lot of stuff about mercury > poisoning symptoms. I got ALL. I have been very ill physically and > mentally. I have been very easily upset and embarassed. I think very > negatively. I now feel that eveyone hates me. I have no hope. What > happened to me. I know my OCD returned recently, and it is much > stronger. What happened? Will I get better when I go on for some > more rounds of chelation? > > Thanks, > Chan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 10, 2004 Report Share Posted April 10, 2004 Kris, thanks for your care. I am living in Hong Kong. I called Samaritan in my area and I have some friends to support me as well. Thanks. Chan. > > Chan, > > Where do you live, if you don't mind me asking. May be meeting with > someone from the site in person would be helpful. Sometimes things get > so rough when your going through this a lone. It is always encouraging > to hear from someone else that they have been where you are and have > pulled through. SUPPORT to so important for you right now. Please send > me more information like your phone number, and I will find someone to > help support you through this. > > krisyd@j... > > Thanks, > > Kris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 10, 2004 Report Share Posted April 10, 2004 Jen, I believe that it is genetics. My father is quiet and not social. But I am the only one having mental problems. It is due to my amalgam filling I think. Thanks, Chan. > > > Did you increase the dose you are using? Are you using enough > > vitamin c and vitamin e etc.? Are you using ALA every 3 hours? Or > > DMSA every 4 hours? Or DMPS every 8 hours? Did you have all your > > amalgam removed before you started to chelate? If you are using > ALA - > > did you wait for at least 3 months after amalgam removal before you > > started chelation? > > > > > > If I was felling really bad with chelation, I would consider to > > reduce the dosage, to take the chelator more frequently during the > > rounds, possibly to do longer rounds and to have longer breaks in > > between. I might also increase vitamin c ect. > > > > > > I hope find a way of feeling better again soon. > > > > > > All the best, > > > > > > Dagmar. > > > [ ] Suicide > > > > > > > > > Dear all, > > > > > > I am now on the 11 rounds of chelation. I felt so good when I > had > > > completed the 5 round of chelation. However, since the > completion > > of > > > 7 round, I got so much suicidal thought. I want to committ > > suicide > > > now. I feel I am nothing. I am a rubbish in this world. I have > > been > > > poisoned with mercury chronically by the amalgam filling since > I > > was > > > 8. It is 20 years now. I studied a lot of stuff about mercury > > > poisoning symptoms. I got ALL. I have been very ill physically > > and > > > mentally. I have been very easily upset and embarassed. I think > > very > > > negatively. I now feel that eveyone hates me. I have no hope. > > What > > > happened to me. I know my OCD returned recently, and it is much > > > stronger. What happened? Will I get better when I go on for > some > > > more rounds of chelation? > > > > > > Thanks, > > > Chan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 10, 2004 Report Share Posted April 10, 2004 > The food my mother cooks is simple. Recently, I am practicing gfcf > diet. Anyone can provide me the list of suphlur food? Here is my list eggs, dairy products, bakery products containing whey, cabbage, bok choy, cauliflower, broccoli, broccoflower, brussel sprouts, kale, turnips, rutabagas, asparagus, onions, shallots, leeks, garlic, coffee. Dana Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 10, 2004 Report Share Posted April 10, 2004 One more thing I will mention. Chelation tends to increase yeast, and when I have yeast my life is AWFUL! Do you have a good anti-yeast protocol? You might consider increasing it. http://www.danasview.net/yeast.htm Dana Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 10, 2004 Report Share Posted April 10, 2004 Chan, WOW! Hong Kong is far.. I am glad to hear that you have supportive friends in your area. I think that is the most important part of this treatment. I know you have many people on line supporting you as well. Take care, Kris ________________________________________________________________ The best thing to hit the Internet in years - Juno SpeedBand! Surf the Web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER! Only $14.95/ month - visit www.juno.com to sign up today! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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