Re: , you wanted to know about this?()

[Guest guest]

Has anyone ever read Horowitz's books on how the hep B vaccine was

contaminated with ...........................viruses (HIV) and that Lyme was

and IS NOW on the list of biological weapons development. In San ,

Tx, Lyme is cultured in the lab and studied for purposes of dealing with an

attack of it used as a weapon from other counties. There is also info about

a lab a few miles from Lyme, Conneticut where it is rumored Lyme was

actually developed to use against our enemies, a severe strain or two,

engineered in the lab, was released and the first outbreak of Lyme

(documented) was in Lyme, Ct where many children suddenly developed juvenile

RA. http://www.tetrahedron.org/

-- Re: , you wanted to know about this?()

,

I have also researched Mycoplasma's! Some highly suspect Mycoplasma

is the root ingredient in the AIDS virus and that is what made it so

contagious and deadly.... Very interesting stuff! (and, scary too)

I think that most of us are infected with at least one of these

stealth bacteria's/virus's so you are on the right track for sure!

Let me know if you need anything on Mycoplasma as I have some info.

for you on that as well. They believe Desert Storm sickness is

caused by Mycoplasma from a chemical weapon. (Sadaam H.) There is a

special lab in California that will test for ALL of these, so let me

know if you would like to have that info. too. Good Luck

Dana

> >

> > Hi ,

> > I have some info. for you about how Lyme can affect the

> > Hypothalamus/Pituitary/Adrenal Axis.

> >

> > Low Adrenal Function / Adrenal Insufficiency--

> > > Hypothalamus/pituitary/adrenal axis dysfunction is frequently

> > > associated with Lyme disease, and many Lyme patients have

> > > both thyroid and adrenal insufficiency.

> > >

> > > Hypothyroidism-- Hypothalamus/pituitary/adrenal axis dysfunction

> > > is frequently associated with Lyme disease, and many Lyme

patients

> > > have both thyroid and adrenal insufficiency.

> > >

> > >

> > > Immunity

> > > Counter-indicators:

> > > Chronic Fatigue / Fibromyalgia Syndrome : Lyme disease should

be a

> > > differential diagnosis for all fibromyalgia patients who could

have

> > > been exposed to a tick bite. Despite antibiotic treatment, a

sequel

> > > of Lyme disease may be a post-Lyme disease syndrome (PLS),

which is

> > > characterized by persistent arthralgia, fatigue, and

neurocognitive

> > > impairment. [Journal of Rheumatology 23(8): pp.1392-1397, 1996]

> > > Although patients with CFS and PLS share many features,

including

> > > symptoms of severe fatigue and cognitive impairment, patients

with

> > > PLS show greater cognitive deficits than patients with CFS

compared

> > > with healthy controls. This is particularly apparent among

patients

> > > with PLS without premorbid psychiatric illness.

> > >

> > > According to an informal study conducted by the American Lyme

> > Disease

> > > Alliance (ALDA), most patients diagnosed with Chronic Fatigue

> > > Syndrome (CFS) are actually suffering from Lyme disease. In a

study

> > > of 31 patients diagnosed with CFS, 28 patients, or 90.3%, were

> > found

> > > to be ill as a result of Lyme disease.

> >

> >

> > ---I really think that most of us should rule out Lyme Disease as

a

> > contributing factor in our illness's. Igenix has a website with

> > information about testing for Lyme. Let me know if you have any

> > questions!

> >

> > Dana

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Has anyone ever read Horowitz's books on how the hep B vaccine was

contaminated with ...........................viruses (HIV) and that Lyme was

and IS NOW on the list of biological weapons development. In San ,

Tx, Lyme is cultured in the lab and studied for purposes of dealing with an

attack of it used as a weapon from other counties. There is also info about

a lab a few miles from Lyme, Conneticut where it is rumored Lyme was

actually developed to use against our enemies, a severe strain or two,

engineered in the lab, was released and the first outbreak of Lyme

(documented) was in Lyme, Ct where many children suddenly developed juvenile

RA. http://www.tetrahedron.org/

-- Re: , you wanted to know about this?()

,

I have also researched Mycoplasma's! Some highly suspect Mycoplasma

is the root ingredient in the AIDS virus and that is what made it so

contagious and deadly.... Very interesting stuff! (and, scary too)

I think that most of us are infected with at least one of these

stealth bacteria's/virus's so you are on the right track for sure!

Let me know if you need anything on Mycoplasma as I have some info.

for you on that as well. They believe Desert Storm sickness is

caused by Mycoplasma from a chemical weapon. (Sadaam H.) There is a

special lab in California that will test for ALL of these, so let me

know if you would like to have that info. too. Good Luck

Dana

> >

> > Hi ,

> > I have some info. for you about how Lyme can affect the

> > Hypothalamus/Pituitary/Adrenal Axis.

> >

> > Low Adrenal Function / Adrenal Insufficiency--

> > > Hypothalamus/pituitary/adrenal axis dysfunction is frequently

> > > associated with Lyme disease, and many Lyme patients have

> > > both thyroid and adrenal insufficiency.

> > >

> > > Hypothyroidism-- Hypothalamus/pituitary/adrenal axis dysfunction

> > > is frequently associated with Lyme disease, and many Lyme

patients

> > > have both thyroid and adrenal insufficiency.

> > >

> > >

> > > Immunity

> > > Counter-indicators:

> > > Chronic Fatigue / Fibromyalgia Syndrome : Lyme disease should

be a

> > > differential diagnosis for all fibromyalgia patients who could

have

> > > been exposed to a tick bite. Despite antibiotic treatment, a

sequel

> > > of Lyme disease may be a post-Lyme disease syndrome (PLS),

which is

> > > characterized by persistent arthralgia, fatigue, and

neurocognitive

> > > impairment. [Journal of Rheumatology 23(8): pp.1392-1397, 1996]

> > > Although patients with CFS and PLS share many features,

including

> > > symptoms of severe fatigue and cognitive impairment, patients

with

> > > PLS show greater cognitive deficits than patients with CFS

compared

> > > with healthy controls. This is particularly apparent among

patients

> > > with PLS without premorbid psychiatric illness.

> > >

> > > According to an informal study conducted by the American Lyme

> > Disease

> > > Alliance (ALDA), most patients diagnosed with Chronic Fatigue

> > > Syndrome (CFS) are actually suffering from Lyme disease. In a

study

> > > of 31 patients diagnosed with CFS, 28 patients, or 90.3%, were

> > found

> > > to be ill as a result of Lyme disease.

> >

> >

> > ---I really think that most of us should rule out Lyme Disease as

a

> > contributing factor in our illness's. Igenix has a website with

> > information about testing for Lyme. Let me know if you have any

> > questions!

> >

> > Dana

> >

>

[Guest guest]

CMV was also in the blood supply until the late 80's, when blood banks began

screening for it (I worked in a blood bank during college). Lyme is in the

blood supply as well as other infectious agents that are NOT tested for. My

dad received a blood transfusion when he had cancer and he got a rash! I

always wondered if he got Lyme or something similar. He did die.

-- Re: Re: , you wanted to know about

this?()

CMV is very prevalent within the US population, approximately 85%

will test positive for it, (that info is from a few years ago). It's

more unusual to test negative for it. Most people have had it and

never even knew they had anything. In others it can wreck havoc.

It's especially dangerous for those with compromised immune systems,

and can be lethal if that's the case.

Linn

>

> >

> > So, this makes me wonder. How many of us have or have had a serious

> > Illness (bacterial, viral)?

> >

> > I had meningitis with encephalitis.

> >

> > Anyone else have any big guy?

> >

>

> Let's see...not a big guy, but definitely a suspect...tested positive

> for cytomegalo virus in the timeframe that I had a full-term

> stillbirth. Then had a miscarriage a couple of months later.

>

[Guest guest]

CMV was also in the blood supply until the late 80's, when blood banks began

screening for it (I worked in a blood bank during college). Lyme is in the

blood supply as well as other infectious agents that are NOT tested for. My

dad received a blood transfusion when he had cancer and he got a rash! I

always wondered if he got Lyme or something similar. He did die.

-- Re: Re: , you wanted to know about

this?()

CMV is very prevalent within the US population, approximately 85%

will test positive for it, (that info is from a few years ago). It's

more unusual to test negative for it. Most people have had it and

never even knew they had anything. In others it can wreck havoc.

It's especially dangerous for those with compromised immune systems,

and can be lethal if that's the case.

Linn

>

> >

> > So, this makes me wonder. How many of us have or have had a serious

> > Illness (bacterial, viral)?

> >

> > I had meningitis with encephalitis.

> >

> > Anyone else have any big guy?

> >

>

> Let's see...not a big guy, but definitely a suspect...tested positive

> for cytomegalo virus in the timeframe that I had a full-term

> stillbirth. Then had a miscarriage a couple of months later.

>

[Guest guest]

CMV was also in the blood supply until the late 80's, when blood banks began

screening for it (I worked in a blood bank during college). Lyme is in the

blood supply as well as other infectious agents that are NOT tested for. My

dad received a blood transfusion when he had cancer and he got a rash! I

always wondered if he got Lyme or something similar. He did die.

-- Re: Re: , you wanted to know about

this?()

CMV is very prevalent within the US population, approximately 85%

will test positive for it, (that info is from a few years ago). It's

more unusual to test negative for it. Most people have had it and

never even knew they had anything. In others it can wreck havoc.

It's especially dangerous for those with compromised immune systems,

and can be lethal if that's the case.

Linn

>

> >

> > So, this makes me wonder. How many of us have or have had a serious

> > Illness (bacterial, viral)?

> >

> > I had meningitis with encephalitis.

> >

> > Anyone else have any big guy?

> >

>

> Let's see...not a big guy, but definitely a suspect...tested positive

> for cytomegalo virus in the timeframe that I had a full-term

> stillbirth. Then had a miscarriage a couple of months later.

>

[Guest guest]

shingles is generally herpes virus.

-- Re: Re: , you wanted to know about

this?()

,

I am very sorry to hear of your huge losses. My heart goes out to you.

I too had shingles in my youth. Highschool as matter of fact. My

grandma said they were due to stress. But they are viral? I never

knew that.

Jackie

>

> >

> > So, this makes me wonder. How many of us have or have had a serious

> > Illness (bacterial, viral)?

> >

> > I had meningitis with encephalitis.

> >

> > Anyone else have any big guy?

> >

>

> Let's see...not a big guy, but definitely a suspect...tested positive

> for cytomegalo virus in the timeframe that I had a full-term

> stillbirth. Then had a miscarriage a couple of months later.

>

> Cytomegalo virus is implicated in adrenal issues in AIDS patients.

> FORTUNATELY, I DON'T have AIDS or HIV. Guess I'll be happy sticking

> with thyroid and adrenals!

>

> Also, I had shingles in college at age 20, which was considered to be

> odd, due to my youth.

>

> Definitely need to test for mroe than the obvious, because it looks as

> if my immune system was somewhat compromised YEARS ago!

>

> Warmly,

>

>

[Guest guest]

shingles is generally herpes virus.

-- Re: Re: , you wanted to know about

this?()

,

I am very sorry to hear of your huge losses. My heart goes out to you.

I too had shingles in my youth. Highschool as matter of fact. My

grandma said they were due to stress. But they are viral? I never

knew that.

Jackie

>

> >

> > So, this makes me wonder. How many of us have or have had a serious

> > Illness (bacterial, viral)?

> >

> > I had meningitis with encephalitis.

> >

> > Anyone else have any big guy?

> >

>

> Let's see...not a big guy, but definitely a suspect...tested positive

> for cytomegalo virus in the timeframe that I had a full-term

> stillbirth. Then had a miscarriage a couple of months later.

>

> Cytomegalo virus is implicated in adrenal issues in AIDS patients.

> FORTUNATELY, I DON'T have AIDS or HIV. Guess I'll be happy sticking

> with thyroid and adrenals!

>

> Also, I had shingles in college at age 20, which was considered to be

> odd, due to my youth.

>

> Definitely need to test for mroe than the obvious, because it looks as

> if my immune system was somewhat compromised YEARS ago!

>

> Warmly,

>

>

[Guest guest]

shingles is generally herpes virus.

-- Re: Re: , you wanted to know about

this?()

,

I am very sorry to hear of your huge losses. My heart goes out to you.

I too had shingles in my youth. Highschool as matter of fact. My

grandma said they were due to stress. But they are viral? I never

knew that.

Jackie

>

> >

> > So, this makes me wonder. How many of us have or have had a serious

> > Illness (bacterial, viral)?

> >

> > I had meningitis with encephalitis.

> >

> > Anyone else have any big guy?

> >

>

> Let's see...not a big guy, but definitely a suspect...tested positive

> for cytomegalo virus in the timeframe that I had a full-term

> stillbirth. Then had a miscarriage a couple of months later.

>

> Cytomegalo virus is implicated in adrenal issues in AIDS patients.

> FORTUNATELY, I DON'T have AIDS or HIV. Guess I'll be happy sticking

> with thyroid and adrenals!

>

> Also, I had shingles in college at age 20, which was considered to be

> odd, due to my youth.

>

> Definitely need to test for mroe than the obvious, because it looks as

> if my immune system was somewhat compromised YEARS ago!

>

> Warmly,

>

>

[Guest guest]

Liz,

No, I didn't know they were no longer testing...thanks for the info.

Please let us know how your testing turns out. Do you have a good

doc that will treat you if you are positive on any of the

virus's/bacteria's listed?? Amazing how many of us are on the same

track in finding out the root of our problems! Great minds think

alike! lol

Dana

>

>

> ----- Original Message -----

> From: Dana

>

> There is a

> > special lab in California that will test for ALL of these, so let

me

> > know if you would like to have that info. too.

>

>

> Hi Dana,

>

> If you're talking about Prof Garth Nicolson's Institute for

Molecular

> Medicine - www.immed.org/ - they are no longer doing the testing,

but are

> advising use of a New Jersey lab, Medical Diagnostic Laboratories,

that

> they've trained to do the PCR tests for Mycoplasma, Lymes, and many

more.

>

> I recently sent them blood to do the tests suggested by Dr.

Nicholson for

> CFS (which include a variety of Mycoplasma, Lymes, and more) and am

awaiting

> results. The web site is a wealth of information, though not the

best

> designed I've seen. I emailed Dr. Nicholson and he sent me info on

what

> tests to order and treatment protocols ... I would be glad to send

this on

> to any who are interested.

>

> Liz

>

[Guest guest]

Liz,

No, I didn't know they were no longer testing...thanks for the info.

Please let us know how your testing turns out. Do you have a good

doc that will treat you if you are positive on any of the

virus's/bacteria's listed?? Amazing how many of us are on the same

track in finding out the root of our problems! Great minds think

alike! lol

Dana

>

>

> ----- Original Message -----

> From: Dana

>

> There is a

> > special lab in California that will test for ALL of these, so let

me

> > know if you would like to have that info. too.

>

>

> Hi Dana,

>

> If you're talking about Prof Garth Nicolson's Institute for

Molecular

> Medicine - www.immed.org/ - they are no longer doing the testing,

but are

> advising use of a New Jersey lab, Medical Diagnostic Laboratories,

that

> they've trained to do the PCR tests for Mycoplasma, Lymes, and many

more.

>

> I recently sent them blood to do the tests suggested by Dr.

Nicholson for

> CFS (which include a variety of Mycoplasma, Lymes, and more) and am

awaiting

> results. The web site is a wealth of information, though not the

best

> designed I've seen. I emailed Dr. Nicholson and he sent me info on

what

> tests to order and treatment protocols ... I would be glad to send

this on

> to any who are interested.

>

> Liz

>

[Guest guest]

Liz,

No, I didn't know they were no longer testing...thanks for the info.

Please let us know how your testing turns out. Do you have a good

doc that will treat you if you are positive on any of the

virus's/bacteria's listed?? Amazing how many of us are on the same

track in finding out the root of our problems! Great minds think

alike! lol

Dana

>

>

> ----- Original Message -----

> From: Dana

>

> There is a

> > special lab in California that will test for ALL of these, so let

me

> > know if you would like to have that info. too.

>

>

> Hi Dana,

>

> If you're talking about Prof Garth Nicolson's Institute for

Molecular

> Medicine - www.immed.org/ - they are no longer doing the testing,

but are

> advising use of a New Jersey lab, Medical Diagnostic Laboratories,

that

> they've trained to do the PCR tests for Mycoplasma, Lymes, and many

more.

>

> I recently sent them blood to do the tests suggested by Dr.

Nicholson for

> CFS (which include a variety of Mycoplasma, Lymes, and more) and am

awaiting

> results. The web site is a wealth of information, though not the

best

> designed I've seen. I emailed Dr. Nicholson and he sent me info on

what

> tests to order and treatment protocols ... I would be glad to send

this on

> to any who are interested.

>

> Liz

>

[Guest guest]

My sister who is hypo for many years now, had shingles AT LEAST 2

times and has FM, anxiety etc....(well, from T4 meds obviously) She

just had a Diabetic pregnancy and delivered a healthy baby girl, 3

weeks early....I am in process of educating her on Armour...she

doesn't have the patience that I have but, hope she will be sick of

being sick and will give it a go. We'll see.

,

I also am so sorry about your baby....how terrible that must have

been and still is, I am sure. Sending you a hug!

p.s. my grandmother also has had shingles a few times and is hypo,

treated with Synth-crap.....seems to be a common denominator.

Dana

> > >

> > > So, this makes me wonder. How many of us have or have had a

serious

> > > Illness (bacterial, viral)?

> > >

> > > I had meningitis with encephalitis.

> > >

> > > Anyone else have any big guy?

> > >

> >

> > Let's see...not a big guy, but definitely a suspect...tested

positive

> > for cytomegalo virus in the timeframe that I had a full-term

> > stillbirth. Then had a miscarriage a couple of months later.

> >

> > Cytomegalo virus is implicated in adrenal issues in AIDS patients.

> > FORTUNATELY, I DON'T have AIDS or HIV. Guess I'll be happy

sticking

> > with thyroid and adrenals!

> >

> > Also, I had shingles in college at age 20, which was considered

to be

> > odd, due to my youth.

> >

> > Definitely need to test for mroe than the obvious, because it

looks as

> > if my immune system was somewhat compromised YEARS ago!

> >

> > Warmly,

> >

> >

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

My sister who is hypo for many years now, had shingles AT LEAST 2

times and has FM, anxiety etc....(well, from T4 meds obviously) She

just had a Diabetic pregnancy and delivered a healthy baby girl, 3

weeks early....I am in process of educating her on Armour...she

doesn't have the patience that I have but, hope she will be sick of

being sick and will give it a go. We'll see.

,

I also am so sorry about your baby....how terrible that must have

been and still is, I am sure. Sending you a hug!

p.s. my grandmother also has had shingles a few times and is hypo,

treated with Synth-crap.....seems to be a common denominator.

Dana

> > >

> > > So, this makes me wonder. How many of us have or have had a

serious

> > > Illness (bacterial, viral)?

> > >

> > > I had meningitis with encephalitis.

> > >

> > > Anyone else have any big guy?

> > >

> >

> > Let's see...not a big guy, but definitely a suspect...tested

positive

> > for cytomegalo virus in the timeframe that I had a full-term

> > stillbirth. Then had a miscarriage a couple of months later.

> >

> > Cytomegalo virus is implicated in adrenal issues in AIDS patients.

> > FORTUNATELY, I DON'T have AIDS or HIV. Guess I'll be happy

sticking

> > with thyroid and adrenals!

> >

> > Also, I had shingles in college at age 20, which was considered

to be

> > odd, due to my youth.

> >

> > Definitely need to test for mroe than the obvious, because it

looks as

> > if my immune system was somewhat compromised YEARS ago!

> >

> > Warmly,

> >

> >

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Plum Island, a biological testing facility, which is an island off the shore

of the Lyme/Groton area of Connecticut (also where a large nuclear sub-base

is).

One of my ponies is a rescue, she wsa going there for testing :-(

Best,

http://www.ChestnutHillDesigns.com

http://www.CurlyRescue.com

View my Blog ~ http://shellyct.blogspot.com/

If you hate a person, you hate something in him that is part of yourself.

What isn't part of ourselves doesn't disturb us.

-- Hermann Hesse

Re: , you wanted to know about this?()

>

> ,

> I have also researched Mycoplasma's! Some highly suspect Mycoplasma

> is the root ingredient in the AIDS virus and that is what made it so

> contagious and deadly.... Very interesting stuff! (and, scary too)

> I think that most of us are infected with at least one of these

> stealth bacteria's/virus's so you are on the right track for sure!

> Let me know if you need anything on Mycoplasma as I have some info.

> for you on that as well. They believe Desert Storm sickness is

> caused by Mycoplasma from a chemical weapon. (Sadaam H.) There is a

> special lab in California that will test for ALL of these, so let me

> know if you would like to have that info. too. Good Luck

>

> Dana

>

>

>> >

>> > Hi ,

>> > I have some info. for you about how Lyme can affect the

>> > Hypothalamus/Pituitary/Adrenal Axis.

>> >

>> > Low Adrenal Function / Adrenal Insufficiency--

>> > > Hypothalamus/pituitary/adrenal axis dysfunction is frequently

>> > > associated with Lyme disease, and many Lyme patients have

>> > > both thyroid and adrenal insufficiency.

>> > >

>> > > Hypothyroidism-- Hypothalamus/pituitary/adrenal axis dysfunction

>> > > is frequently associated with Lyme disease, and many Lyme

> patients

>> > > have both thyroid and adrenal insufficiency.

>> > >

>> > >

>> > > Immunity

>> > > Counter-indicators:

>> > > Chronic Fatigue / Fibromyalgia Syndrome : Lyme disease should

> be a

>> > > differential diagnosis for all fibromyalgia patients who could

> have

>> > > been exposed to a tick bite. Despite antibiotic treatment, a

> sequel

>> > > of Lyme disease may be a post-Lyme disease syndrome (PLS),

> which is

>> > > characterized by persistent arthralgia, fatigue, and

> neurocognitive

>> > > impairment. [Journal of Rheumatology 23(8): pp.1392-1397, 1996]

>> > > Although patients with CFS and PLS share many features,

> including

>> > > symptoms of severe fatigue and cognitive impairment, patients

> with

>> > > PLS show greater cognitive deficits than patients with CFS

> compared

>> > > with healthy controls. This is particularly apparent among

> patients

>> > > with PLS without premorbid psychiatric illness.

>> > >

>> > > According to an informal study conducted by the American Lyme

>> > Disease

>> > > Alliance (ALDA), most patients diagnosed with Chronic Fatigue

>> > > Syndrome (CFS) are actually suffering from Lyme disease. In a

> study

>> > > of 31 patients diagnosed with CFS, 28 patients, or 90.3%, were

>> > found

>> > > to be ill as a result of Lyme disease.

>> >

>> >

>> > ---I really think that most of us should rule out Lyme Disease as

> a

>> > contributing factor in our illness's. Igenix has a website with

>> > information about testing for Lyme. Let me know if you have any

>> > questions!

>> >

>> > Dana

>> >

>>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Plum Island, a biological testing facility, which is an island off the shore

of the Lyme/Groton area of Connecticut (also where a large nuclear sub-base

is).

One of my ponies is a rescue, she wsa going there for testing :-(

Best,

http://www.ChestnutHillDesigns.com

http://www.CurlyRescue.com

View my Blog ~ http://shellyct.blogspot.com/

If you hate a person, you hate something in him that is part of yourself.

What isn't part of ourselves doesn't disturb us.

-- Hermann Hesse

Re: , you wanted to know about this?()

>

> ,

> I have also researched Mycoplasma's! Some highly suspect Mycoplasma

> is the root ingredient in the AIDS virus and that is what made it so

> contagious and deadly.... Very interesting stuff! (and, scary too)

> I think that most of us are infected with at least one of these

> stealth bacteria's/virus's so you are on the right track for sure!

> Let me know if you need anything on Mycoplasma as I have some info.

> for you on that as well. They believe Desert Storm sickness is

> caused by Mycoplasma from a chemical weapon. (Sadaam H.) There is a

> special lab in California that will test for ALL of these, so let me

> know if you would like to have that info. too. Good Luck

>

> Dana

>

>

>> >

>> > Hi ,

>> > I have some info. for you about how Lyme can affect the

>> > Hypothalamus/Pituitary/Adrenal Axis.

>> >

>> > Low Adrenal Function / Adrenal Insufficiency--

>> > > Hypothalamus/pituitary/adrenal axis dysfunction is frequently

>> > > associated with Lyme disease, and many Lyme patients have

>> > > both thyroid and adrenal insufficiency.

>> > >

>> > > Hypothyroidism-- Hypothalamus/pituitary/adrenal axis dysfunction

>> > > is frequently associated with Lyme disease, and many Lyme

> patients

>> > > have both thyroid and adrenal insufficiency.

>> > >

>> > >

>> > > Immunity

>> > > Counter-indicators:

>> > > Chronic Fatigue / Fibromyalgia Syndrome : Lyme disease should

> be a

>> > > differential diagnosis for all fibromyalgia patients who could

> have

>> > > been exposed to a tick bite. Despite antibiotic treatment, a

> sequel

>> > > of Lyme disease may be a post-Lyme disease syndrome (PLS),

> which is

>> > > characterized by persistent arthralgia, fatigue, and

> neurocognitive

>> > > impairment. [Journal of Rheumatology 23(8): pp.1392-1397, 1996]

>> > > Although patients with CFS and PLS share many features,

> including

>> > > symptoms of severe fatigue and cognitive impairment, patients

> with

>> > > PLS show greater cognitive deficits than patients with CFS

> compared

>> > > with healthy controls. This is particularly apparent among

> patients

>> > > with PLS without premorbid psychiatric illness.

>> > >

>> > > According to an informal study conducted by the American Lyme

>> > Disease

>> > > Alliance (ALDA), most patients diagnosed with Chronic Fatigue

>> > > Syndrome (CFS) are actually suffering from Lyme disease. In a

> study

>> > > of 31 patients diagnosed with CFS, 28 patients, or 90.3%, were

>> > found

>> > > to be ill as a result of Lyme disease.

>> >

>> >

>> > ---I really think that most of us should rule out Lyme Disease as

> a

>> > contributing factor in our illness's. Igenix has a website with

>> > information about testing for Lyme. Let me know if you have any

>> > questions!

>> >

>> > Dana

>> >

>>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Haven't read the book but, have read what you speak of! Pretty scary

and very sickening......when people say, " what is this world coming

to " ? Well, I think, " you have no idea " !! Once you research and find

out what people are capable of, it makes you suspect of everything!!

Dana

> > >

> > > Hi ,

> > > I have some info. for you about how Lyme can affect the

> > > Hypothalamus/Pituitary/Adrenal Axis.

> > >

> > > Low Adrenal Function / Adrenal Insufficiency--

> > > > Hypothalamus/pituitary/adrenal axis dysfunction is frequently

> > > > associated with Lyme disease, and many Lyme patients have

> > > > both thyroid and adrenal insufficiency.

> > > >

> > > > Hypothyroidism-- Hypothalamus/pituitary/adrenal axis

dysfunction

> > > > is frequently associated with Lyme disease, and many Lyme

> patients

> > > > have both thyroid and adrenal insufficiency.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Immunity

> > > > Counter-indicators:

> > > > Chronic Fatigue / Fibromyalgia Syndrome : Lyme disease should

> be a

> > > > differential diagnosis for all fibromyalgia patients who

could

> have

> > > > been exposed to a tick bite. Despite antibiotic treatment, a

> sequel

> > > > of Lyme disease may be a post-Lyme disease syndrome (PLS),

> which is

> > > > characterized by persistent arthralgia, fatigue, and

> neurocognitive

> > > > impairment. [Journal of Rheumatology 23(8): pp.1392-1397,

1996]

> > > > Although patients with CFS and PLS share many features,

> including

> > > > symptoms of severe fatigue and cognitive impairment, patients

> with

> > > > PLS show greater cognitive deficits than patients with CFS

> compared

> > > > with healthy controls. This is particularly apparent among

> patients

> > > > with PLS without premorbid psychiatric illness.

> > > >

> > > > According to an informal study conducted by the American Lyme

> > > Disease

> > > > Alliance (ALDA), most patients diagnosed with Chronic Fatigue

> > > > Syndrome (CFS) are actually suffering from Lyme disease. In a

> study

> > > > of 31 patients diagnosed with CFS, 28 patients, or 90.3%, were

> > > found

> > > > to be ill as a result of Lyme disease.

> > >

> > >

> > > ---I really think that most of us should rule out Lyme Disease

as

> a

> > > contributing factor in our illness's. Igenix has a website with

> > > information about testing for Lyme. Let me know if you have any

> > > questions!

> > >

> > > Dana

> > >

> >

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Haven't read the book but, have read what you speak of! Pretty scary

and very sickening......when people say, " what is this world coming

to " ? Well, I think, " you have no idea " !! Once you research and find

out what people are capable of, it makes you suspect of everything!!

Dana

> > >

> > > Hi ,

> > > I have some info. for you about how Lyme can affect the

> > > Hypothalamus/Pituitary/Adrenal Axis.

> > >

> > > Low Adrenal Function / Adrenal Insufficiency--

> > > > Hypothalamus/pituitary/adrenal axis dysfunction is frequently

> > > > associated with Lyme disease, and many Lyme patients have

> > > > both thyroid and adrenal insufficiency.

> > > >

> > > > Hypothyroidism-- Hypothalamus/pituitary/adrenal axis

dysfunction

> > > > is frequently associated with Lyme disease, and many Lyme

> patients

> > > > have both thyroid and adrenal insufficiency.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Immunity

> > > > Counter-indicators:

> > > > Chronic Fatigue / Fibromyalgia Syndrome : Lyme disease should

> be a

> > > > differential diagnosis for all fibromyalgia patients who

could

> have

> > > > been exposed to a tick bite. Despite antibiotic treatment, a

> sequel

> > > > of Lyme disease may be a post-Lyme disease syndrome (PLS),

> which is

> > > > characterized by persistent arthralgia, fatigue, and

> neurocognitive

> > > > impairment. [Journal of Rheumatology 23(8): pp.1392-1397,

1996]

> > > > Although patients with CFS and PLS share many features,

> including

> > > > symptoms of severe fatigue and cognitive impairment, patients

> with

> > > > PLS show greater cognitive deficits than patients with CFS

> compared

> > > > with healthy controls. This is particularly apparent among

> patients

> > > > with PLS without premorbid psychiatric illness.

> > > >

> > > > According to an informal study conducted by the American Lyme

> > > Disease

> > > > Alliance (ALDA), most patients diagnosed with Chronic Fatigue

> > > > Syndrome (CFS) are actually suffering from Lyme disease. In a

> study

> > > > of 31 patients diagnosed with CFS, 28 patients, or 90.3%, were

> > > found

> > > > to be ill as a result of Lyme disease.

> > >

> > >

> > > ---I really think that most of us should rule out Lyme Disease

as

> a

> > > contributing factor in our illness's. Igenix has a website with

> > > information about testing for Lyme. Let me know if you have any

> > > questions!

> > >

> > > Dana

> > >

> >

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

,

How long have you had Lyme? Also, maybe it would help some here to

know what symptoms you had before you found out it was lyme? (only if

you want to!) The problem is everyone reacts differently. Some are

worse than others so that alone makes it a more difficult diagnosis.

I thank God my son got an EM rash. By the time I realized, it was

all over his body, including his face. Made the diagnosis very

easy. And, now? He is still not the same and he supposedly only had

active infection for about 4-6 weeks.....if I had followed what the

doctors here prescribed, he would be even worse! 3-4 weeks of ABX's

my a--! Our children deserve better than this! (sorry for the

rant!)

Dana

> >

> > So, this makes me wonder. How many of us have or have had a

serious

> > Illness (bacterial, viral)?

> >

> > I had meningitis with encephalitis.

> >

> > Anyone else have any big guy?

> >

>

> Let's see...not a big guy, but definitely a suspect...tested

positive

> for cytomegalo virus in the timeframe that I had a full-term

> stillbirth. Then had a miscarriage a couple of months later.

>

> Cytomegalo virus is implicated in adrenal issues in AIDS patients.

> FORTUNATELY, I DON'T have AIDS or HIV. Guess I'll be happy sticking

> with thyroid and adrenals!

>

> Also, I had shingles in college at age 20, which was considered to

be

> odd, due to my youth.

>

> Definitely need to test for mroe than the obvious, because it looks

as

> if my immune system was somewhat compromised YEARS ago!

>

> Warmly,

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

,

How long have you had Lyme? Also, maybe it would help some here to

know what symptoms you had before you found out it was lyme? (only if

you want to!) The problem is everyone reacts differently. Some are

worse than others so that alone makes it a more difficult diagnosis.

I thank God my son got an EM rash. By the time I realized, it was

all over his body, including his face. Made the diagnosis very

easy. And, now? He is still not the same and he supposedly only had

active infection for about 4-6 weeks.....if I had followed what the

doctors here prescribed, he would be even worse! 3-4 weeks of ABX's

my a--! Our children deserve better than this! (sorry for the

rant!)

Dana

> >

> > So, this makes me wonder. How many of us have or have had a

serious

> > Illness (bacterial, viral)?

> >

> > I had meningitis with encephalitis.

> >

> > Anyone else have any big guy?

> >

>

> Let's see...not a big guy, but definitely a suspect...tested

positive

> for cytomegalo virus in the timeframe that I had a full-term

> stillbirth. Then had a miscarriage a couple of months later.

>

> Cytomegalo virus is implicated in adrenal issues in AIDS patients.

> FORTUNATELY, I DON'T have AIDS or HIV. Guess I'll be happy sticking

> with thyroid and adrenals!

>

> Also, I had shingles in college at age 20, which was considered to

be

> odd, due to my youth.

>

> Definitely need to test for mroe than the obvious, because it looks

as

> if my immune system was somewhat compromised YEARS ago!

>

> Warmly,

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Yes that it is, Plum Island.

-- Re: Re: , you wanted to know about

this?()

Plum Island, a biological testing facility, which is an island off the shore

of the Lyme/Groton area of Connecticut (also where a large nuclear sub-base

is).

One of my ponies is a rescue, she wsa going there for testing :-(

Best,

http://www.ChestnutHillDesigns.com

http://www.CurlyRescue.com

View my Blog ~ http://shellyct.blogspot.com/

If you hate a person, you hate something in him that is part of yourself.

What isn't part of ourselves doesn't disturb us.

-- Hermann Hesse

Re: , you wanted to know about this?()

>

> ,

> I have also researched Mycoplasma's! Some highly suspect Mycoplasma

> is the root ingredient in the AIDS virus and that is what made it so

> contagious and deadly.... Very interesting stuff! (and, scary too)

> I think that most of us are infected with at least one of these

> stealth bacteria's/virus's so you are on the right track for sure!

> Let me know if you need anything on Mycoplasma as I have some info.

> for you on that as well. They believe Desert Storm sickness is

> caused by Mycoplasma from a chemical weapon. (Sadaam H.) There is a

> special lab in California that will test for ALL of these, so let me

> know if you would like to have that info. too. Good Luck

>

> Dana

>

>

>> >

>> > Hi ,

>> > I have some info. for you about how Lyme can affect the

>> > Hypothalamus/Pituitary/Adrenal Axis.

>> >

>> > Low Adrenal Function / Adrenal Insufficiency--

>> > > Hypothalamus/pituitary/adrenal axis dysfunction is frequently

>> > > associated with Lyme disease, and many Lyme patients have

>> > > both thyroid and adrenal insufficiency.

>> > >

>> > > Hypothyroidism-- Hypothalamus/pituitary/adrenal axis dysfunction

>> > > is frequently associated with Lyme disease, and many Lyme

> patients

>> > > have both thyroid and adrenal insufficiency.

>> > >

>> > >

>> > > Immunity

>> > > Counter-indicators:

>> > > Chronic Fatigue / Fibromyalgia Syndrome : Lyme disease should

> be a

>> > > differential diagnosis for all fibromyalgia patients who could

> have

>> > > been exposed to a tick bite. Despite antibiotic treatment, a

> sequel

>> > > of Lyme disease may be a post-Lyme disease syndrome (PLS),

> which is

>> > > characterized by persistent arthralgia, fatigue, and

> neurocognitive

>> > > impairment. [Journal of Rheumatology 23(8): pp.1392-1397, 1996]

>> > > Although patients with CFS and PLS share many features,

> including

>> > > symptoms of severe fatigue and cognitive impairment, patients

> with

>> > > PLS show greater cognitive deficits than patients with CFS

> compared

>> > > with healthy controls. This is particularly apparent among

> patients

>> > > with PLS without premorbid psychiatric illness.

>> > >

>> > > According to an informal study conducted by the American Lyme

>> > Disease

>> > > Alliance (ALDA), most patients diagnosed with Chronic Fatigue

>> > > Syndrome (CFS) are actually suffering from Lyme disease. In a

> study

>> > > of 31 patients diagnosed with CFS, 28 patients, or 90.3%, were

>> > found

>> > > to be ill as a result of Lyme disease.

>> >

>> >

>> > ---I really think that most of us should rule out Lyme Disease as

> a

>> > contributing factor in our illness's. Igenix has a website with

>> > information about testing for Lyme. Let me know if you have any

>> > questions!

>> >

>> > Dana

>> >

>>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Yes that it is, Plum Island.

-- Re: Re: , you wanted to know about

this?()

Plum Island, a biological testing facility, which is an island off the shore

of the Lyme/Groton area of Connecticut (also where a large nuclear sub-base

is).

One of my ponies is a rescue, she wsa going there for testing :-(

Best,

http://www.ChestnutHillDesigns.com

http://www.CurlyRescue.com

View my Blog ~ http://shellyct.blogspot.com/

If you hate a person, you hate something in him that is part of yourself.

What isn't part of ourselves doesn't disturb us.

-- Hermann Hesse

Re: , you wanted to know about this?()

>

> ,

> I have also researched Mycoplasma's! Some highly suspect Mycoplasma

> is the root ingredient in the AIDS virus and that is what made it so

> contagious and deadly.... Very interesting stuff! (and, scary too)

> I think that most of us are infected with at least one of these

> stealth bacteria's/virus's so you are on the right track for sure!

> Let me know if you need anything on Mycoplasma as I have some info.

> for you on that as well. They believe Desert Storm sickness is

> caused by Mycoplasma from a chemical weapon. (Sadaam H.) There is a

> special lab in California that will test for ALL of these, so let me

> know if you would like to have that info. too. Good Luck

>

> Dana

>

>

>> >

>> > Hi ,

>> > I have some info. for you about how Lyme can affect the

>> > Hypothalamus/Pituitary/Adrenal Axis.

>> >

>> > Low Adrenal Function / Adrenal Insufficiency--

>> > > Hypothalamus/pituitary/adrenal axis dysfunction is frequently

>> > > associated with Lyme disease, and many Lyme patients have

>> > > both thyroid and adrenal insufficiency.

>> > >

>> > > Hypothyroidism-- Hypothalamus/pituitary/adrenal axis dysfunction

>> > > is frequently associated with Lyme disease, and many Lyme

> patients

>> > > have both thyroid and adrenal insufficiency.

>> > >

>> > >

>> > > Immunity

>> > > Counter-indicators:

>> > > Chronic Fatigue / Fibromyalgia Syndrome : Lyme disease should

> be a

>> > > differential diagnosis for all fibromyalgia patients who could

> have

>> > > been exposed to a tick bite. Despite antibiotic treatment, a

> sequel

>> > > of Lyme disease may be a post-Lyme disease syndrome (PLS),

> which is

>> > > characterized by persistent arthralgia, fatigue, and

> neurocognitive

>> > > impairment. [Journal of Rheumatology 23(8): pp.1392-1397, 1996]

>> > > Although patients with CFS and PLS share many features,

> including

>> > > symptoms of severe fatigue and cognitive impairment, patients

> with

>> > > PLS show greater cognitive deficits than patients with CFS

> compared

>> > > with healthy controls. This is particularly apparent among

> patients

>> > > with PLS without premorbid psychiatric illness.

>> > >

>> > > According to an informal study conducted by the American Lyme

>> > Disease

>> > > Alliance (ALDA), most patients diagnosed with Chronic Fatigue

>> > > Syndrome (CFS) are actually suffering from Lyme disease. In a

> study

>> > > of 31 patients diagnosed with CFS, 28 patients, or 90.3%, were

>> > found

>> > > to be ill as a result of Lyme disease.

>> >

>> >

>> > ---I really think that most of us should rule out Lyme Disease as

> a

>> > contributing factor in our illness's. Igenix has a website with

>> > information about testing for Lyme. Let me know if you have any

>> > questions!

>> >

>> > Dana

>> >

>>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Right, I see why people become hermits or move to uninhabited islands!!!

-- Re: , you wanted to know about this?()

Haven't read the book but, have read what you speak of! Pretty scary

and very sickening......when people say, " what is this world coming

to " ? Well, I think, " you have no idea " !! Once you research and find

out what people are capable of, it makes you suspect of everything!!

Dana

> > >

> > > Hi ,

> > > I have some info. for you about how Lyme can affect the

> > > Hypothalamus/Pituitary/Adrenal Axis.

> > >

> > > Low Adrenal Function / Adrenal Insufficiency--

> > > > Hypothalamus/pituitary/adrenal axis dysfunction is frequently

> > > > associated with Lyme disease, and many Lyme patients have

> > > > both thyroid and adrenal insufficiency.

> > > >

> > > > Hypothyroidism-- Hypothalamus/pituitary/adrenal axis

dysfunction

> > > > is frequently associated with Lyme disease, and many Lyme

> patients

> > > > have both thyroid and adrenal insufficiency.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Immunity

> > > > Counter-indicators:

> > > > Chronic Fatigue / Fibromyalgia Syndrome : Lyme disease should

> be a

> > > > differential diagnosis for all fibromyalgia patients who

could

> have

> > > > been exposed to a tick bite. Despite antibiotic treatment, a

> sequel

> > > > of Lyme disease may be a post-Lyme disease syndrome (PLS),

> which is

> > > > characterized by persistent arthralgia, fatigue, and

> neurocognitive

> > > > impairment. [Journal of Rheumatology 23(8): pp.1392-1397,

1996]

> > > > Although patients with CFS and PLS share many features,

> including

> > > > symptoms of severe fatigue and cognitive impairment, patients

> with

> > > > PLS show greater cognitive deficits than patients with CFS

> compared

> > > > with healthy controls. This is particularly apparent among

> patients

> > > > with PLS without premorbid psychiatric illness.

> > > >

> > > > According to an informal study conducted by the American Lyme

> > > Disease

> > > > Alliance (ALDA), most patients diagnosed with Chronic Fatigue

> > > > Syndrome (CFS) are actually suffering from Lyme disease. In a

> study

> > > > of 31 patients diagnosed with CFS, 28 patients, or 90.3%, were

> > > found

> > > > to be ill as a result of Lyme disease.

> > >

> > >

> > > ---I really think that most of us should rule out Lyme Disease

as

> a

> > > contributing factor in our illness's. Igenix has a website with

> > > information about testing for Lyme. Let me know if you have any

> > > questions!

> > >

> > > Dana

> > >

> >

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

>

> shingles is generally herpes virus.

>

Yes...

Shingles (herpes zoster) is an outbreak of rash or blisters on the

skin that is caused by the same virus that causes chickenpox — the

varicella-zoster virus.

[Guest guest]

>

> shingles is generally herpes virus.

>

Yes...

Shingles (herpes zoster) is an outbreak of rash or blisters on the

skin that is caused by the same virus that causes chickenpox — the

varicella-zoster virus.

[Guest guest]

Dana:

Lyme makes its way to the brain in 10 days in some cases. I really don't

know how long I have had it. I got really sick in 1996 and was in deer tic

area the summer before. But when I was 14 I was bitten by multiple tics

that were on my body for a day or more so my doc thinks it was then.

My symptoms were constant infections, sinus, flu, colds, feeling horrible.

I had been a long distance swimmer and extremely athletic and suddenly I had

no stamina. I found out after years of suffering that I had growth hormone

deficiency and injecting growth hormone stopped the infections.

I just had extreme fatigue, got heavy, had no exercise tolerance. Just felt

very very old at 40. I was either very hot or very cold, had pains and

aches, constant headaches and migraines, felt like I had the flu when I woke

up every morning.

I got a diagnosis of FM with no treatment and had to find growth hormone on

my own. Got it from an endocrinologist in Kansas, who lost her license for

overdiagnosing' growth hormone deficiency. She is the one who thought I

could have Lyme and she had me tested. When I was positive she referred me

to a Lyme doc in Missouri.

Just tired all the time, memory going-feels like Alzheimers (Lyme has been

found in the brains of Alzheimers patients during autopsy), MS symptoms.

Tired but can't sleep, multiple endocrine problems, early menopause.

-- Re: , you wanted to know about this?()

,

How long have you had Lyme? Also, maybe it would help some here to

know what symptoms you had before you found out it was lyme? (only if

you want to!) The problem is everyone reacts differently. Some are

worse than others so that alone makes it a more difficult diagnosis.

I thank God my son got an EM rash. By the time I realized, it was

all over his body, including his face. Made the diagnosis very

easy. And, now? He is still not the same and he supposedly only had

active infection for about 4-6 weeks.....if I had followed what the

doctors here prescribed, he would be even worse! 3-4 weeks of ABX's

my a--! Our children deserve better than this! (sorry for the

rant!)

Dana

> >

> > So, this makes me wonder. How many of us have or have had a

serious

> > Illness (bacterial, viral)?

> >

> > I had meningitis with encephalitis.

> >

> > Anyone else have any big guy?

> >

>

> Let's see...not a big guy, but definitely a suspect...tested

positive

> for cytomegalo virus in the timeframe that I had a full-term

> stillbirth. Then had a miscarriage a couple of months later.

>

> Cytomegalo virus is implicated in adrenal issues in AIDS patients.

> FORTUNATELY, I DON'T have AIDS or HIV. Guess I'll be happy sticking

> with thyroid and adrenals!

>

> Also, I had shingles in college at age 20, which was considered to

be

> odd, due to my youth.

>

> Definitely need to test for mroe than the obvious, because it looks

as

> if my immune system was somewhat compromised YEARS ago!

>

> Warmly,

>

>

>

>

>

>

>