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I have also researched Mycoplasma's! Some highly suspect Mycoplasma

is the root ingredient in the AIDS virus and that is what made it so

contagious and deadly.... Very interesting stuff! (and, scary too)

I think that most of us are infected with at least one of these

stealth bacteria's/virus's so you are on the right track for sure!

Let me know if you need anything on Mycoplasma as I have some info.

for you on that as well. They believe Desert Storm sickness is

caused by Mycoplasma from a chemical weapon. (Sadaam H.) There is a

special lab in California that will test for ALL of these, so let me

know if you would like to have that info. too. Good Luck

Dana

> >

> > Hi ,

> > I have some info. for you about how Lyme can affect the

> > Hypothalamus/Pituitary/Adrenal Axis.

> >

> > Low Adrenal Function / Adrenal Insufficiency--

> > > Hypothalamus/pituitary/adrenal axis dysfunction is frequently

> > > associated with Lyme disease, and many Lyme patients have

> > > both thyroid and adrenal insufficiency.

> > >

> > > Hypothyroidism-- Hypothalamus/pituitary/adrenal axis dysfunction

> > > is frequently associated with Lyme disease, and many Lyme

patients

> > > have both thyroid and adrenal insufficiency.

> > >

> > >

> > > Immunity

> > > Counter-indicators:

> > > Chronic Fatigue / Fibromyalgia Syndrome : Lyme disease should

be a

> > > differential diagnosis for all fibromyalgia patients who could

have

> > > been exposed to a tick bite. Despite antibiotic treatment, a

sequel

> > > of Lyme disease may be a post-Lyme disease syndrome (PLS),

which is

> > > characterized by persistent arthralgia, fatigue, and

neurocognitive

> > > impairment. [Journal of Rheumatology 23(8): pp.1392-1397, 1996]

> > > Although patients with CFS and PLS share many features,

including

> > > symptoms of severe fatigue and cognitive impairment, patients

with

> > > PLS show greater cognitive deficits than patients with CFS

compared

> > > with healthy controls. This is particularly apparent among

patients

> > > with PLS without premorbid psychiatric illness.

> > >

> > > According to an informal study conducted by the American Lyme

> > Disease

> > > Alliance (ALDA), most patients diagnosed with Chronic Fatigue

> > > Syndrome (CFS) are actually suffering from Lyme disease. In a

study

> > > of 31 patients diagnosed with CFS, 28 patients, or 90.3%, were

> > found

> > > to be ill as a result of Lyme disease.

> >

> >

> > ---I really think that most of us should rule out Lyme Disease as

a

> > contributing factor in our illness's. Igenix has a website with

> > information about testing for Lyme. Let me know if you have any

> > questions!

> >

> > Dana

> >

>

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There is a

> special lab in California that will test for ALL of these, so let me

> know if you would like to have that info. too.

Hi Dana,

If you're talking about Prof Garth Nicolson's Institute for Molecular

Medicine - www.immed.org/ - they are no longer doing the testing, but are

advising use of a New Jersey lab, Medical Diagnostic Laboratories, that

they've trained to do the PCR tests for Mycoplasma, Lymes, and many more.

I recently sent them blood to do the tests suggested by Dr. Nicholson for

CFS (which include a variety of Mycoplasma, Lymes, and more) and am awaiting

results. The web site is a wealth of information, though not the best

designed I've seen. I emailed Dr. Nicholson and he sent me info on what

tests to order and treatment protocols ... I would be glad to send this on

to any who are interested.

Liz

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From: Dana

There is a

> special lab in California that will test for ALL of these, so let me

> know if you would like to have that info. too.

Hi Dana,

If you're talking about Prof Garth Nicolson's Institute for Molecular

Medicine - www.immed.org/ - they are no longer doing the testing, but are

advising use of a New Jersey lab, Medical Diagnostic Laboratories, that

they've trained to do the PCR tests for Mycoplasma, Lymes, and many more.

I recently sent them blood to do the tests suggested by Dr. Nicholson for

CFS (which include a variety of Mycoplasma, Lymes, and more) and am awaiting

results. The web site is a wealth of information, though not the best

designed I've seen. I emailed Dr. Nicholson and he sent me info on what

tests to order and treatment protocols ... I would be glad to send this on

to any who are interested.

Liz

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So, this makes me wonder. How many of us have or have had a serious

Illness (bacterial, viral)?

I had meningitis with encephalitis.

Anyone else have any big guy?

Jackie

> ,

> I have also researched Mycoplasma's! Some highly suspect Mycoplasma

> is the root ingredient in the AIDS virus and that is what made it so

> contagious and deadly.... Very interesting stuff! (and, scary too)

> I think that most of us are infected with at least one of these

> stealth bacteria's/virus's so you are on the right track for sure!

> Let me know if you need anything on Mycoplasma as I have some info.

> for you on that as well. They believe Desert Storm sickness is

> caused by Mycoplasma from a chemical weapon. (Sadaam H.) There is a

> special lab in California that will test for ALL of these, so let me

> know if you would like to have that info. too. Good Luck

>

> Dana

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So, this makes me wonder. How many of us have or have had a serious

Illness (bacterial, viral)?

I had meningitis with encephalitis.

Anyone else have any big guy?

Jackie

> ,

> I have also researched Mycoplasma's! Some highly suspect Mycoplasma

> is the root ingredient in the AIDS virus and that is what made it so

> contagious and deadly.... Very interesting stuff! (and, scary too)

> I think that most of us are infected with at least one of these

> stealth bacteria's/virus's so you are on the right track for sure!

> Let me know if you need anything on Mycoplasma as I have some info.

> for you on that as well. They believe Desert Storm sickness is

> caused by Mycoplasma from a chemical weapon. (Sadaam H.) There is a

> special lab in California that will test for ALL of these, so let me

> know if you would like to have that info. too. Good Luck

>

> Dana

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> ,

> I have also researched Mycoplasma's! let me

> know if you would like to have that info. too.

Well, Dana, if you have it handy...whenever you have a chance, I'd

appreciate it. No rush. If I have it, I'm sure it's not going anywhere!

Warmly,

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> ,

> I have also researched Mycoplasma's! let me

> know if you would like to have that info. too.

Well, Dana, if you have it handy...whenever you have a chance, I'd

appreciate it. No rush. If I have it, I'm sure it's not going anywhere!

Warmly,

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> ,

> I have also researched Mycoplasma's! let me

> know if you would like to have that info. too.

Well, Dana, if you have it handy...whenever you have a chance, I'd

appreciate it. No rush. If I have it, I'm sure it's not going anywhere!

Warmly,

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> So, this makes me wonder. How many of us have or have had a serious

> Illness (bacterial, viral)?

>

> I had meningitis with encephalitis.

>

> Anyone else have any big guy?

>

Let's see...not a big guy, but definitely a suspect...tested positive

for cytomegalo virus in the timeframe that I had a full-term

stillbirth. Then had a miscarriage a couple of months later.

Cytomegalo virus is implicated in adrenal issues in AIDS patients.

FORTUNATELY, I DON'T have AIDS or HIV. Guess I'll be happy sticking

with thyroid and adrenals!

Also, I had shingles in college at age 20, which was considered to be

odd, due to my youth.

Definitely need to test for mroe than the obvious, because it looks as

if my immune system was somewhat compromised YEARS ago!

Warmly,

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> So, this makes me wonder. How many of us have or have had a serious

> Illness (bacterial, viral)?

>

> I had meningitis with encephalitis.

>

> Anyone else have any big guy?

>

Let's see...not a big guy, but definitely a suspect...tested positive

for cytomegalo virus in the timeframe that I had a full-term

stillbirth. Then had a miscarriage a couple of months later.

Cytomegalo virus is implicated in adrenal issues in AIDS patients.

FORTUNATELY, I DON'T have AIDS or HIV. Guess I'll be happy sticking

with thyroid and adrenals!

Also, I had shingles in college at age 20, which was considered to be

odd, due to my youth.

Definitely need to test for mroe than the obvious, because it looks as

if my immune system was somewhat compromised YEARS ago!

Warmly,

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CMV is very prevalent within the US population, approximately 85%

will test positive for it, (that info is from a few years ago). It's

more unusual to test negative for it. Most people have had it and

never even knew they had anything. In others it can wreck havoc.

It's especially dangerous for those with compromised immune systems,

and can be lethal if that's the case.

Linn

>

> >

> > So, this makes me wonder. How many of us have or have had a serious

> > Illness (bacterial, viral)?

> >

> > I had meningitis with encephalitis.

> >

> > Anyone else have any big guy?

> >

>

> Let's see...not a big guy, but definitely a suspect...tested positive

> for cytomegalo virus in the timeframe that I had a full-term

> stillbirth. Then had a miscarriage a couple of months later.

>

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CMV is very prevalent within the US population, approximately 85%

will test positive for it, (that info is from a few years ago). It's

more unusual to test negative for it. Most people have had it and

never even knew they had anything. In others it can wreck havoc.

It's especially dangerous for those with compromised immune systems,

and can be lethal if that's the case.

Linn

>

> >

> > So, this makes me wonder. How many of us have or have had a serious

> > Illness (bacterial, viral)?

> >

> > I had meningitis with encephalitis.

> >

> > Anyone else have any big guy?

> >

>

> Let's see...not a big guy, but definitely a suspect...tested positive

> for cytomegalo virus in the timeframe that I had a full-term

> stillbirth. Then had a miscarriage a couple of months later.

>

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CMV is very prevalent within the US population, approximately 85%

will test positive for it, (that info is from a few years ago). It's

more unusual to test negative for it. Most people have had it and

never even knew they had anything. In others it can wreck havoc.

It's especially dangerous for those with compromised immune systems,

and can be lethal if that's the case.

Linn

>

> >

> > So, this makes me wonder. How many of us have or have had a serious

> > Illness (bacterial, viral)?

> >

> > I had meningitis with encephalitis.

> >

> > Anyone else have any big guy?

> >

>

> Let's see...not a big guy, but definitely a suspect...tested positive

> for cytomegalo virus in the timeframe that I had a full-term

> stillbirth. Then had a miscarriage a couple of months later.

>

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,

I am very sorry to hear of your huge losses. My heart goes out to you.

I too had shingles in my youth. Highschool as matter of fact. My

grandma said they were due to stress. But they are viral? I never

knew that.

Jackie

>

> >

> > So, this makes me wonder. How many of us have or have had a serious

> > Illness (bacterial, viral)?

> >

> > I had meningitis with encephalitis.

> >

> > Anyone else have any big guy?

> >

>

> Let's see...not a big guy, but definitely a suspect...tested positive

> for cytomegalo virus in the timeframe that I had a full-term

> stillbirth. Then had a miscarriage a couple of months later.

>

> Cytomegalo virus is implicated in adrenal issues in AIDS patients.

> FORTUNATELY, I DON'T have AIDS or HIV. Guess I'll be happy sticking

> with thyroid and adrenals!

>

> Also, I had shingles in college at age 20, which was considered to be

> odd, due to my youth.

>

> Definitely need to test for mroe than the obvious, because it looks as

> if my immune system was somewhat compromised YEARS ago!

>

> Warmly,

>

>

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,

I am very sorry to hear of your huge losses. My heart goes out to you.

I too had shingles in my youth. Highschool as matter of fact. My

grandma said they were due to stress. But they are viral? I never

knew that.

Jackie

>

> >

> > So, this makes me wonder. How many of us have or have had a serious

> > Illness (bacterial, viral)?

> >

> > I had meningitis with encephalitis.

> >

> > Anyone else have any big guy?

> >

>

> Let's see...not a big guy, but definitely a suspect...tested positive

> for cytomegalo virus in the timeframe that I had a full-term

> stillbirth. Then had a miscarriage a couple of months later.

>

> Cytomegalo virus is implicated in adrenal issues in AIDS patients.

> FORTUNATELY, I DON'T have AIDS or HIV. Guess I'll be happy sticking

> with thyroid and adrenals!

>

> Also, I had shingles in college at age 20, which was considered to be

> odd, due to my youth.

>

> Definitely need to test for mroe than the obvious, because it looks as

> if my immune system was somewhat compromised YEARS ago!

>

> Warmly,

>

>

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,

I am very sorry to hear of your huge losses. My heart goes out to you.

I too had shingles in my youth. Highschool as matter of fact. My

grandma said they were due to stress. But they are viral? I never

knew that.

Jackie

>

> >

> > So, this makes me wonder. How many of us have or have had a serious

> > Illness (bacterial, viral)?

> >

> > I had meningitis with encephalitis.

> >

> > Anyone else have any big guy?

> >

>

> Let's see...not a big guy, but definitely a suspect...tested positive

> for cytomegalo virus in the timeframe that I had a full-term

> stillbirth. Then had a miscarriage a couple of months later.

>

> Cytomegalo virus is implicated in adrenal issues in AIDS patients.

> FORTUNATELY, I DON'T have AIDS or HIV. Guess I'll be happy sticking

> with thyroid and adrenals!

>

> Also, I had shingles in college at age 20, which was considered to be

> odd, due to my youth.

>

> Definitely need to test for mroe than the obvious, because it looks as

> if my immune system was somewhat compromised YEARS ago!

>

> Warmly,

>

>

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Dana,

Could you send me what you have on mycoplasmas too? Thanks!

angesc2001 wrote:

>

> ,

> I have also researched Mycoplasma's! let me

> know if you would like to have that info. too.

Well, Dana, if you have it handy...whenever you have a chance, I'd

appreciate it. No rush. If I have it, I'm sure it's not going anywhere!

Warmly,

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Dana,

Could you send me what you have on mycoplasmas too? Thanks!

angesc2001 wrote:

>

> ,

> I have also researched Mycoplasma's! let me

> know if you would like to have that info. too.

Well, Dana, if you have it handy...whenever you have a chance, I'd

appreciate it. No rush. If I have it, I'm sure it's not going anywhere!

Warmly,

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Dana,

Could you send me what you have on mycoplasmas too? Thanks!

angesc2001 wrote:

>

> ,

> I have also researched Mycoplasma's! let me

> know if you would like to have that info. too.

Well, Dana, if you have it handy...whenever you have a chance, I'd

appreciate it. No rush. If I have it, I'm sure it's not going anywhere!

Warmly,

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I have had encephalitis from Lyme. Had to have hyperbaric chamber

treatments to reduce the swelling. However, a year later my MRI was worse!

Probably damage done from Lyme die off in brain. My headaches did resolve

for a year so it must have worked. BUT, it is comeing back, the headaches,

etc. It never goes away if you do not catch it in early stage I.

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>

> So, this makes me wonder. How many of us have or have had a serious

> Illness (bacterial, viral)?

>

> I had meningitis with encephalitis.

>

> Anyone else have any big guy?

>

Let's see...not a big guy, but definitely a suspect...tested positive

for cytomegalo virus in the timeframe that I had a full-term

stillbirth. Then had a miscarriage a couple of months later.

Cytomegalo virus is implicated in adrenal issues in AIDS patients.

FORTUNATELY, I DON'T have AIDS or HIV. Guess I'll be happy sticking

with thyroid and adrenals!

Also, I had shingles in college at age 20, which was considered to be

odd, due to my youth.

Definitely need to test for mroe than the obvious, because it looks as

if my immune system was somewhat compromised YEARS ago!

Warmly,

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> CMV is very prevalent within the US population, approximately 85%

> will test positive for it, (that info is from a few years ago). It's

> more unusual to test negative for it. Most people have had it and

> never even knew they had anything. In others it can wreck havoc.

> It's especially dangerous for those with compromised immune systems,

> and can be lethal if that's the case.

>

Right...it's a common virus in preschoolers. Basically just cold

symptoms.

The question becomes the compromised immune system. Typically, we

think AIDS or HIV. But I suspect that is just one extreme on the

spectrum.

Who knows. Unfortunately, mainstream medicine is not interested.

Warmly,

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>

> ,

>

> I am very sorry to hear of your huge losses. My heart goes out to you.

Thank you, Jackie...you're so kind.

>

> I too had shingles in my youth. Highschool as matter of fact. My

> grandma said they were due to stress. But they are viral? I never

> knew that.

>

Shingles is an outbreak of the varicella virus - chickenpox. Your

grandma was probably right regarding the stress. That's what they

told me too when I had it - college stress, etc. (Painful as all

get-out, huh?)

But, that begets the question...why were we handling stress in such an

extreme fashion? Honestly, I really wasn't under THAT much stress!

That was the same year that I got a viral cough thing that lasted 6 weeks.

Makes me wonder...

Warmly,

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> ,

>

> I am very sorry to hear of your huge losses. My heart goes out to you.

Thank you, Jackie...you're so kind.

>

> I too had shingles in my youth. Highschool as matter of fact. My

> grandma said they were due to stress. But they are viral? I never

> knew that.

>

Shingles is an outbreak of the varicella virus - chickenpox. Your

grandma was probably right regarding the stress. That's what they

told me too when I had it - college stress, etc. (Painful as all

get-out, huh?)

But, that begets the question...why were we handling stress in such an

extreme fashion? Honestly, I really wasn't under THAT much stress!

That was the same year that I got a viral cough thing that lasted 6 weeks.

Makes me wonder...

Warmly,

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>

> ,

>

> I am very sorry to hear of your huge losses. My heart goes out to you.

Thank you, Jackie...you're so kind.

>

> I too had shingles in my youth. Highschool as matter of fact. My

> grandma said they were due to stress. But they are viral? I never

> knew that.

>

Shingles is an outbreak of the varicella virus - chickenpox. Your

grandma was probably right regarding the stress. That's what they

told me too when I had it - college stress, etc. (Painful as all

get-out, huh?)

But, that begets the question...why were we handling stress in such an

extreme fashion? Honestly, I really wasn't under THAT much stress!

That was the same year that I got a viral cough thing that lasted 6 weeks.

Makes me wonder...

Warmly,

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Has anyone ever read Horowitz's books on how the hep B vaccine was

contaminated with ...........................viruses (HIV) and that Lyme was

and IS NOW on the list of biological weapons development. In San ,

Tx, Lyme is cultured in the lab and studied for purposes of dealing with an

attack of it used as a weapon from other counties. There is also info about

a lab a few miles from Lyme, Conneticut where it is rumored Lyme was

actually developed to use against our enemies, a severe strain or two,

engineered in the lab, was released and the first outbreak of Lyme

(documented) was in Lyme, Ct where many children suddenly developed juvenile

RA. http://www.tetrahedron.org/

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,

I have also researched Mycoplasma's! Some highly suspect Mycoplasma

is the root ingredient in the AIDS virus and that is what made it so

contagious and deadly.... Very interesting stuff! (and, scary too)

I think that most of us are infected with at least one of these

stealth bacteria's/virus's so you are on the right track for sure!

Let me know if you need anything on Mycoplasma as I have some info.

for you on that as well. They believe Desert Storm sickness is

caused by Mycoplasma from a chemical weapon. (Sadaam H.) There is a

special lab in California that will test for ALL of these, so let me

know if you would like to have that info. too. Good Luck

Dana

> >

> > Hi ,

> > I have some info. for you about how Lyme can affect the

> > Hypothalamus/Pituitary/Adrenal Axis.

> >

> > Low Adrenal Function / Adrenal Insufficiency--

> > > Hypothalamus/pituitary/adrenal axis dysfunction is frequently

> > > associated with Lyme disease, and many Lyme patients have

> > > both thyroid and adrenal insufficiency.

> > >

> > > Hypothyroidism-- Hypothalamus/pituitary/adrenal axis dysfunction

> > > is frequently associated with Lyme disease, and many Lyme

patients

> > > have both thyroid and adrenal insufficiency.

> > >

> > >

> > > Immunity

> > > Counter-indicators:

> > > Chronic Fatigue / Fibromyalgia Syndrome : Lyme disease should

be a

> > > differential diagnosis for all fibromyalgia patients who could

have

> > > been exposed to a tick bite. Despite antibiotic treatment, a

sequel

> > > of Lyme disease may be a post-Lyme disease syndrome (PLS),

which is

> > > characterized by persistent arthralgia, fatigue, and

neurocognitive

> > > impairment. [Journal of Rheumatology 23(8): pp.1392-1397, 1996]

> > > Although patients with CFS and PLS share many features,

including

> > > symptoms of severe fatigue and cognitive impairment, patients

with

> > > PLS show greater cognitive deficits than patients with CFS

compared

> > > with healthy controls. This is particularly apparent among

patients

> > > with PLS without premorbid psychiatric illness.

> > >

> > > According to an informal study conducted by the American Lyme

> > Disease

> > > Alliance (ALDA), most patients diagnosed with Chronic Fatigue

> > > Syndrome (CFS) are actually suffering from Lyme disease. In a

study

> > > of 31 patients diagnosed with CFS, 28 patients, or 90.3%, were

> > found

> > > to be ill as a result of Lyme disease.

> >

> >

> > ---I really think that most of us should rule out Lyme Disease as

a

> > contributing factor in our illness's. Igenix has a website with

> > information about testing for Lyme. Let me know if you have any

> > questions!

> >

> > Dana

> >

>

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