Re: comments please

January 3, 2001

Bob:

Do you take ANY prescription meds???

Nan (Alias Ms. Magoo)

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January 3, 2001

Lots of extra Vitamin C....makes " habits " more regular

and comfortable

AnnMarie

--- bobkat1955@... wrote:

>

> > Bob,

> >

> > I have two suggestions. #1 -- write back and tell

> us what,

> exactly, you are

> > eating and drinking so we can perhaps find some

> trouble spot for

> you.

> >

> > #2 -- just keep it up and be patient. It doesn't

> always happen

> quickly, but

> > it does happen.

> >

> > Terry

>

> thanks for all the constructive comments. the only

> other thing i'm

> doing is sugar-free metamucil, i tsp. in a full

> glass of water once

> or twice per day, 5 carbs per tsp. i feel i need it

> since my " habits "

> are very, very different than before i started the

> diet. any other

> suggestions about the change in regularity, which is

> no longer

> regular?

>

> thanks again,

>

> bob

>

=====

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January 3, 2001

> Irregularity problems usually work themselves out, so to speak.

And that's

> why you need to get those salads and other veggies into your meals

each day.

> Personally, I never had any irregularity problems, but others have

reported

> a problem at first that did remedy itself after adjusting to the

WOE.

>

> It's quite a shock to our poor old bodies, I suppose.

>

> Terry

terry, you've been most informative and i thank you much. i just

returned from the grocery with brocolli, cauliflower, lettuce and

tomatoes. i'll stay in touch, thanks again to all for the kind

suggestions. BTW, the turkey is done roasting as well!

bob

January 3, 2001

Bob:

Easy on the tomatoes...they can be high carb.

Nan (Alias Ms. Magoo)

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January 3, 2001

Bob:

Easy on the tomatoes...they can be high carb.

Nan (Alias Ms. Magoo)

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January 3, 2001

Bob:

Easy on the tomatoes...they can be high carb.

Nan (Alias Ms. Magoo)

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January 3, 2001

Bob:

Easy on the tomatoes...they can be high carb.

Nan (Alias Ms. Magoo)

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January 3, 2001

Bob:

Easy on the tomatoes...they can be high carb.

Nan (Alias Ms. Magoo)

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January 3, 2001

Bob:

Easy on the tomatoes...they can be high carb.

Nan (Alias Ms. Magoo)

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January 3, 2001

Ann Marie, thanks for the advice on taking " lots " of vitamin C. what

do you define as " lots " ? i'm currently taking 2,000 mg spaced

throughout the day. what works for you? thanks again...

bob

> > > Bob,

> > >

> > > I have two suggestions. #1 -- write back and tell

> > us what,

> > exactly, you are

> > > eating and drinking so we can perhaps find some

> > trouble spot for

> > you.

> > >

> > > #2 -- just keep it up and be patient. It doesn't

> > always happen

> > quickly, but

> > > it does happen.

> > >

> > > Terry

> >

> > thanks for all the constructive comments. the only

> > other thing i'm

> > doing is sugar-free metamucil, i tsp. in a full

> > glass of water once

> > or twice per day, 5 carbs per tsp. i feel i need it

> > since my " habits "

> > are very, very different than before i started the

> > diet. any other

> > suggestions about the change in regularity, which is

> > no longer

> > regular?

> >

> > thanks again,

> >

> > bob

> >

>

> =====

> AnnMarie

>

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>

> __________________________________________________

>

January 3, 2001

hey there Bob,

no problem! What I did was I took my regular (sorry

about that) dosage and 2-3x'ed it--but I can't find my

bottle to tell you what I was at! I am so sorry, but

it really does help!

AnnMarie

--- bobkat1955@... wrote:

> Ann Marie, thanks for the advice on taking " lots " of

> vitamin C. what

> do you define as " lots " ? i'm currently taking 2,000

> mg spaced

> throughout the day. what works for you? thanks

> again...

>

> bob

>

> > > > Bob,

> > > >

> > > > I have two suggestions. #1 -- write back and

> tell

> > > us what,

> > > exactly, you are

> > > > eating and drinking so we can perhaps find

> some

> > > trouble spot for

> > > you.

> > > >

> > > > #2 -- just keep it up and be patient. It

> doesn't

> > > always happen

> > > quickly, but

> > > > it does happen.

> > > >

> > > > Terry

> > >

> > > thanks for all the constructive comments. the

> only

> > > other thing i'm

> > > doing is sugar-free metamucil, i tsp. in a full

> > > glass of water once

> > > or twice per day, 5 carbs per tsp. i feel i need

> it

> > > since my " habits "

> > > are very, very different than before i started

> the

> > > diet. any other

> > > suggestions about the change in regularity,

> which is

> > > no longer

> > > regular?

> > >

> > > thanks again,

> > >

> > > bob

> > >

> >

> > =====

> > AnnMarie

> >

> > The Stillman list:

> /group/Stillman

> >

> > __________________________________________________

> >

January 3, 2001

Robin,

>BTW - I've never drank on induction (that I can remember...

LOL, sometimes you just ask for it...

Bob, like the others, I would lose the gin and add veggies. Now, if you

absolutely have to have the gin, you could try just adding the veggies and

see what happens. I was never able to give up my Diet Pepsi and it didn't

hurt me to have it. Maybe the gin won't hurt you, but then again, maybe it

will. If you don't give it up and you don't lose weight, the gin should go

so that you know if it is causing a problem.

Jean

January 3, 2001

i stopped all prescription meds, was only taking claritin and

tetracycline PRN anyway...haven't missed either...thanks for asking.

i saw that precaution in DANDR and abided.

bob

> Bob:

> Do you take ANY prescription meds???

> Nan (Alias Ms. Magoo)

> Please Support Macular Degeneration

> And Other Vision Loss Research

> http://members.aol.com/danlrob/MDpeople/

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January 3, 2001

i stopped all prescription meds, was only taking claritin and

tetracycline PRN anyway...haven't missed either...thanks for asking.

i saw that precaution in DANDR and abided.

bob

> Bob:

> Do you take ANY prescription meds???

> Nan (Alias Ms. Magoo)

> Please Support Macular Degeneration

> And Other Vision Loss Research

> http://members.aol.com/danlrob/MDpeople/

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January 3, 2001

jean, thanks for the advice. the gin is very minimal. i use 1 oz. in

a 24 oz. glass and fill the rest with sugar-free tonic water and ice.

i will add the veggies i promise. thanks again.

bob

> Robin,

>

> >BTW - I've never drank on induction (that I can remember...

>

> LOL, sometimes you just ask for it...

>

> Bob, like the others, I would lose the gin and add veggies. Now,

if you

> absolutely have to have the gin, you could try just adding the

veggies and

> see what happens. I was never able to give up my Diet Pepsi and it

didn't

> hurt me to have it. Maybe the gin won't hurt you, but then again,

maybe it

> will. If you don't give it up and you don't lose weight, the gin

should go

> so that you know if it is causing a problem.

>

> Jean

January 3, 2001

> i stopped all prescription meds, was only taking claritin and

> tetracycline PRN anyway...haven't missed either...thanks for asking.

> i saw that precaution in DANDR and abided.

While prescription meds may slow things down, please don't ever stop taking

them without consulting your physician. Dr. Atkins works with his patients

to get them off their meds - nobody should ever just do it cold turkey on

their own! If there are things that you are taking that slow you down, so

be it. Better to be a slow loser than an unhealthy fast loser!

Kirstie

January 3, 2001

> i stopped all prescription meds, was only taking claritin and

> tetracycline PRN anyway...haven't missed either...thanks for asking.

> i saw that precaution in DANDR and abided.

While prescription meds may slow things down, please don't ever stop taking

them without consulting your physician. Dr. Atkins works with his patients

to get them off their meds - nobody should ever just do it cold turkey on

their own! If there are things that you are taking that slow you down, so

be it. Better to be a slow loser than an unhealthy fast loser!

Kirstie

January 3, 2001

> thanks for the kind response. i have canadian bacon and an egg for

> breakfast. tuna with a chopped hard egg and mayo or baked fish (salt

> and pepper only) for lunch. a cornish hen for dinner last night, the

> night before it was buffaloe wings with butter and tabasco sauce. for

> snack i have hard sausage and pepper jack cheese. i also have gin and

> diet tonic (no carbs) in the evening. suggestions are appreciated.

> thanks again.

>

Well, those of you who have been around a while know I can't possibly keep

my mouth shut. First, how much water are you drinking? You didn't list

any. It's important that you drink water. Opinions on how much vary, but

the most commonly recommended is 64oz plus 8 ounces for every 25pounds you

need to lose. Additionally, if you drink caffeine or alcohol you need to

drink *even more* and again, more if you're eating a lot of salty items.

You may find you need less, but a majority of people need to follow these

guidelines for water drinking in order to continue losing weight. For

induction, you should nix the alcohol all together. Finally, you need

vegetables! A multi-vitamin would be a good idea as well.

Here are changes I would make to your menu. (By the way, I know I'm super

nitpicky, don't take it hard, you're really making a superb effort!)

Breakfast

it's fine, but maybe have another egg and drink 16oz of water with it. (you

didn't state how much canadian bacon, but in general, one of those little

slices is .5carbs and eggs are .5 (or .6 if you use large, etc. etc) so I'd

call 2 eggs and a slice of canadian bacon as 1.5 and round to 2 just in

case.

Lunch:

fine, but you should add 2 cups salad (for induction I'd recommend lettuce

and cucumber and be sure to count the carbs for any other induction " ok "

veggies you add). On your salad, use small amounts of the lowest carb

dressing you can find, Newman's dijon lime is a good choice, as is

Ken's steakhouse creamy caesar. A lot of ranch and bleu cheese dressings

are usually 1 carb per 2 Tablespoons. You will find that you won't need as

much dressing as you think. Put your dressing on top of the salad and then

shake it all together. You'll be surprised to find that 2 Tablespoons will

actually put a thin coating on your entire salad. I would " guestimate " an

induction salad at 6 or 7 carbs. Again, drink 16 oz. water. If you have a

chopped egg we'll call that .5 and 1 Tablespoon mayonnaise as .5. So for

lunch the total would be about 8 carbs.

Dinner:

the protein is great! Again, you need vegetables, try 1 cup salad and 1/2

cup cooked vegetables (like green beans, broccoli or cauliflower). The

salad would probably be about 3 or 4 carbs and the cooked veggie, about 4

(probably less) carbs. So that would be about 8 carbs. Again, drink 16 oz.

water.

Those three meals consist of 18 carbohydrates. That leaves you with very

little snack room, but that would be 2 ounces of any cheese that is 1 carb

per ounce or 4 hard boiled eggs (or a combination 1 oz cheese and 2 hard

boiled eggs) or 2 hard boiled eggs and 1/2 cup sugar free jello. (In other

words, your snacks need to be less than 2 carbs. You should drink water

with or after your snack.

A. - who hopes she's not scaring someone away by going nuts.

January 3, 2001