Guest guest Posted January 3, 2001 Report Share Posted January 3, 2001 Bob: Do you take ANY prescription meds??? Nan (Alias Ms. Magoo) Please Support Macular Degeneration And Other Vision Loss Research http://members.aol.com/danlrob/MDpeople/ www.puppymillrescue.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 3, 2001 Report Share Posted January 3, 2001 Lots of extra Vitamin C....makes " habits " more regular and comfortable AnnMarie --- bobkat1955@... wrote: > > > Bob, > > > > I have two suggestions. #1 -- write back and tell > us what, > exactly, you are > > eating and drinking so we can perhaps find some > trouble spot for > you. > > > > #2 -- just keep it up and be patient. It doesn't > always happen > quickly, but > > it does happen. > > > > Terry > > thanks for all the constructive comments. the only > other thing i'm > doing is sugar-free metamucil, i tsp. in a full > glass of water once > or twice per day, 5 carbs per tsp. i feel i need it > since my " habits " > are very, very different than before i started the > diet. any other > suggestions about the change in regularity, which is > no longer > regular? > > thanks again, > > bob > > ===== AnnMarie The Stillman list: /group/Stillman __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 3, 2001 Report Share Posted January 3, 2001 > Irregularity problems usually work themselves out, so to speak. And that's > why you need to get those salads and other veggies into your meals each day. > Personally, I never had any irregularity problems, but others have reported > a problem at first that did remedy itself after adjusting to the WOE. > > It's quite a shock to our poor old bodies, I suppose. > > Terry terry, you've been most informative and i thank you much. i just returned from the grocery with brocolli, cauliflower, lettuce and tomatoes. i'll stay in touch, thanks again to all for the kind suggestions. BTW, the turkey is done roasting as well! bob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 3, 2001 Report Share Posted January 3, 2001 Bob: Easy on the tomatoes...they can be high carb. Nan (Alias Ms. Magoo) Please Support Macular Degeneration And Other Vision Loss Research http://members.aol.com/danlrob/MDpeople/ www.puppymillrescue.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 3, 2001 Report Share Posted January 3, 2001 Bob: Easy on the tomatoes...they can be high carb. Nan (Alias Ms. Magoo) Please Support Macular Degeneration And Other Vision Loss Research http://members.aol.com/danlrob/MDpeople/ www.puppymillrescue.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 3, 2001 Report Share Posted January 3, 2001 Bob: Easy on the tomatoes...they can be high carb. Nan (Alias Ms. Magoo) Please Support Macular Degeneration And Other Vision Loss Research http://members.aol.com/danlrob/MDpeople/ www.puppymillrescue.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 3, 2001 Report Share Posted January 3, 2001 Bob: Easy on the tomatoes...they can be high carb. Nan (Alias Ms. Magoo) Please Support Macular Degeneration And Other Vision Loss Research http://members.aol.com/danlrob/MDpeople/ www.puppymillrescue.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 3, 2001 Report Share Posted January 3, 2001 Bob: Easy on the tomatoes...they can be high carb. Nan (Alias Ms. Magoo) Please Support Macular Degeneration And Other Vision Loss Research http://members.aol.com/danlrob/MDpeople/ www.puppymillrescue.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 3, 2001 Report Share Posted January 3, 2001 Bob: Easy on the tomatoes...they can be high carb. Nan (Alias Ms. Magoo) Please Support Macular Degeneration And Other Vision Loss Research http://members.aol.com/danlrob/MDpeople/ www.puppymillrescue.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 3, 2001 Report Share Posted January 3, 2001 Ann Marie, thanks for the advice on taking " lots " of vitamin C. what do you define as " lots " ? i'm currently taking 2,000 mg spaced throughout the day. what works for you? thanks again... bob > > > Bob, > > > > > > I have two suggestions. #1 -- write back and tell > > us what, > > exactly, you are > > > eating and drinking so we can perhaps find some > > trouble spot for > > you. > > > > > > #2 -- just keep it up and be patient. It doesn't > > always happen > > quickly, but > > > it does happen. > > > > > > Terry > > > > thanks for all the constructive comments. the only > > other thing i'm > > doing is sugar-free metamucil, i tsp. in a full > > glass of water once > > or twice per day, 5 carbs per tsp. i feel i need it > > since my " habits " > > are very, very different than before i started the > > diet. any other > > suggestions about the change in regularity, which is > > no longer > > regular? > > > > thanks again, > > > > bob > > > > > > > ===== > AnnMarie > > The Stillman list: /group/Stillman > > __________________________________________________ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 3, 2001 Report Share Posted January 3, 2001 hey there Bob, no problem! What I did was I took my regular (sorry about that) dosage and 2-3x'ed it--but I can't find my bottle to tell you what I was at! I am so sorry, but it really does help! AnnMarie --- bobkat1955@... wrote: > Ann Marie, thanks for the advice on taking " lots " of > vitamin C. what > do you define as " lots " ? i'm currently taking 2,000 > mg spaced > throughout the day. what works for you? thanks > again... > > bob > > > > > > Bob, > > > > > > > > I have two suggestions. #1 -- write back and > tell > > > us what, > > > exactly, you are > > > > eating and drinking so we can perhaps find > some > > > trouble spot for > > > you. > > > > > > > > #2 -- just keep it up and be patient. It > doesn't > > > always happen > > > quickly, but > > > > it does happen. > > > > > > > > Terry > > > > > > thanks for all the constructive comments. the > only > > > other thing i'm > > > doing is sugar-free metamucil, i tsp. in a full > > > glass of water once > > > or twice per day, 5 carbs per tsp. i feel i need > it > > > since my " habits " > > > are very, very different than before i started > the > > > diet. any other > > > suggestions about the change in regularity, > which is > > > no longer > > > regular? > > > > > > thanks again, > > > > > > bob > > > > > > > > > > > > ===== > > AnnMarie > > > > The Stillman list: > /group/Stillman > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 3, 2001 Report Share Posted January 3, 2001 Robin, >BTW - I've never drank on induction (that I can remember... LOL, sometimes you just ask for it... Bob, like the others, I would lose the gin and add veggies. Now, if you absolutely have to have the gin, you could try just adding the veggies and see what happens. I was never able to give up my Diet Pepsi and it didn't hurt me to have it. Maybe the gin won't hurt you, but then again, maybe it will. If you don't give it up and you don't lose weight, the gin should go so that you know if it is causing a problem. Jean Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 3, 2001 Report Share Posted January 3, 2001 i stopped all prescription meds, was only taking claritin and tetracycline PRN anyway...haven't missed either...thanks for asking. i saw that precaution in DANDR and abided. bob > Bob: > Do you take ANY prescription meds??? > Nan (Alias Ms. Magoo) > Please Support Macular Degeneration > And Other Vision Loss Research > http://members.aol.com/danlrob/MDpeople/ > www.puppymillrescue.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 3, 2001 Report Share Posted January 3, 2001 i stopped all prescription meds, was only taking claritin and tetracycline PRN anyway...haven't missed either...thanks for asking. i saw that precaution in DANDR and abided. bob > Bob: > Do you take ANY prescription meds??? > Nan (Alias Ms. Magoo) > Please Support Macular Degeneration > And Other Vision Loss Research > http://members.aol.com/danlrob/MDpeople/ > www.puppymillrescue.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 3, 2001 Report Share Posted January 3, 2001 jean, thanks for the advice. the gin is very minimal. i use 1 oz. in a 24 oz. glass and fill the rest with sugar-free tonic water and ice. i will add the veggies i promise. thanks again. bob > Robin, > > >BTW - I've never drank on induction (that I can remember... > > LOL, sometimes you just ask for it... > > Bob, like the others, I would lose the gin and add veggies. Now, if you > absolutely have to have the gin, you could try just adding the veggies and > see what happens. I was never able to give up my Diet Pepsi and it didn't > hurt me to have it. Maybe the gin won't hurt you, but then again, maybe it > will. If you don't give it up and you don't lose weight, the gin should go > so that you know if it is causing a problem. > > Jean Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 3, 2001 Report Share Posted January 3, 2001 > i stopped all prescription meds, was only taking claritin and > tetracycline PRN anyway...haven't missed either...thanks for asking. > i saw that precaution in DANDR and abided. While prescription meds may slow things down, please don't ever stop taking them without consulting your physician. Dr. Atkins works with his patients to get them off their meds - nobody should ever just do it cold turkey on their own! If there are things that you are taking that slow you down, so be it. Better to be a slow loser than an unhealthy fast loser! Kirstie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 3, 2001 Report Share Posted January 3, 2001 > i stopped all prescription meds, was only taking claritin and > tetracycline PRN anyway...haven't missed either...thanks for asking. > i saw that precaution in DANDR and abided. While prescription meds may slow things down, please don't ever stop taking them without consulting your physician. Dr. Atkins works with his patients to get them off their meds - nobody should ever just do it cold turkey on their own! If there are things that you are taking that slow you down, so be it. Better to be a slow loser than an unhealthy fast loser! Kirstie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 3, 2001 Report Share Posted January 3, 2001 > thanks for the kind response. i have canadian bacon and an egg for > breakfast. tuna with a chopped hard egg and mayo or baked fish (salt > and pepper only) for lunch. a cornish hen for dinner last night, the > night before it was buffaloe wings with butter and tabasco sauce. for > snack i have hard sausage and pepper jack cheese. i also have gin and > diet tonic (no carbs) in the evening. suggestions are appreciated. > thanks again. > Well, those of you who have been around a while know I can't possibly keep my mouth shut. First, how much water are you drinking? You didn't list any. It's important that you drink water. Opinions on how much vary, but the most commonly recommended is 64oz plus 8 ounces for every 25pounds you need to lose. Additionally, if you drink caffeine or alcohol you need to drink *even more* and again, more if you're eating a lot of salty items. You may find you need less, but a majority of people need to follow these guidelines for water drinking in order to continue losing weight. For induction, you should nix the alcohol all together. Finally, you need vegetables! A multi-vitamin would be a good idea as well. Here are changes I would make to your menu. (By the way, I know I'm super nitpicky, don't take it hard, you're really making a superb effort!) Breakfast it's fine, but maybe have another egg and drink 16oz of water with it. (you didn't state how much canadian bacon, but in general, one of those little slices is .5carbs and eggs are .5 (or .6 if you use large, etc. etc) so I'd call 2 eggs and a slice of canadian bacon as 1.5 and round to 2 just in case. Lunch: fine, but you should add 2 cups salad (for induction I'd recommend lettuce and cucumber and be sure to count the carbs for any other induction " ok " veggies you add). On your salad, use small amounts of the lowest carb dressing you can find, Newman's dijon lime is a good choice, as is Ken's steakhouse creamy caesar. A lot of ranch and bleu cheese dressings are usually 1 carb per 2 Tablespoons. You will find that you won't need as much dressing as you think. Put your dressing on top of the salad and then shake it all together. You'll be surprised to find that 2 Tablespoons will actually put a thin coating on your entire salad. I would " guestimate " an induction salad at 6 or 7 carbs. Again, drink 16 oz. water. If you have a chopped egg we'll call that .5 and 1 Tablespoon mayonnaise as .5. So for lunch the total would be about 8 carbs. Dinner: the protein is great! Again, you need vegetables, try 1 cup salad and 1/2 cup cooked vegetables (like green beans, broccoli or cauliflower). The salad would probably be about 3 or 4 carbs and the cooked veggie, about 4 (probably less) carbs. So that would be about 8 carbs. Again, drink 16 oz. water. Those three meals consist of 18 carbohydrates. That leaves you with very little snack room, but that would be 2 ounces of any cheese that is 1 carb per ounce or 4 hard boiled eggs (or a combination 1 oz cheese and 2 hard boiled eggs) or 2 hard boiled eggs and 1/2 cup sugar free jello. (In other words, your snacks need to be less than 2 carbs. You should drink water with or after your snack. A. - who hopes she's not scaring someone away by going nuts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 3, 2001 Report Share Posted January 3, 2001 > thanks for the kind response. i have canadian bacon and an egg for > breakfast. tuna with a chopped hard egg and mayo or baked fish (salt > and pepper only) for lunch. a cornish hen for dinner last night, the > night before it was buffaloe wings with butter and tabasco sauce. for > snack i have hard sausage and pepper jack cheese. i also have gin and > diet tonic (no carbs) in the evening. suggestions are appreciated. > thanks again. > Well, those of you who have been around a while know I can't possibly keep my mouth shut. First, how much water are you drinking? You didn't list any. It's important that you drink water. Opinions on how much vary, but the most commonly recommended is 64oz plus 8 ounces for every 25pounds you need to lose. Additionally, if you drink caffeine or alcohol you need to drink *even more* and again, more if you're eating a lot of salty items. You may find you need less, but a majority of people need to follow these guidelines for water drinking in order to continue losing weight. For induction, you should nix the alcohol all together. Finally, you need vegetables! A multi-vitamin would be a good idea as well. Here are changes I would make to your menu. (By the way, I know I'm super nitpicky, don't take it hard, you're really making a superb effort!) Breakfast it's fine, but maybe have another egg and drink 16oz of water with it. (you didn't state how much canadian bacon, but in general, one of those little slices is .5carbs and eggs are .5 (or .6 if you use large, etc. etc) so I'd call 2 eggs and a slice of canadian bacon as 1.5 and round to 2 just in case. Lunch: fine, but you should add 2 cups salad (for induction I'd recommend lettuce and cucumber and be sure to count the carbs for any other induction " ok " veggies you add). On your salad, use small amounts of the lowest carb dressing you can find, Newman's dijon lime is a good choice, as is Ken's steakhouse creamy caesar. A lot of ranch and bleu cheese dressings are usually 1 carb per 2 Tablespoons. You will find that you won't need as much dressing as you think. Put your dressing on top of the salad and then shake it all together. You'll be surprised to find that 2 Tablespoons will actually put a thin coating on your entire salad. I would " guestimate " an induction salad at 6 or 7 carbs. Again, drink 16 oz. water. If you have a chopped egg we'll call that .5 and 1 Tablespoon mayonnaise as .5. So for lunch the total would be about 8 carbs. Dinner: the protein is great! Again, you need vegetables, try 1 cup salad and 1/2 cup cooked vegetables (like green beans, broccoli or cauliflower). The salad would probably be about 3 or 4 carbs and the cooked veggie, about 4 (probably less) carbs. So that would be about 8 carbs. Again, drink 16 oz. water. Those three meals consist of 18 carbohydrates. That leaves you with very little snack room, but that would be 2 ounces of any cheese that is 1 carb per ounce or 4 hard boiled eggs (or a combination 1 oz cheese and 2 hard boiled eggs) or 2 hard boiled eggs and 1/2 cup sugar free jello. (In other words, your snacks need to be less than 2 carbs. You should drink water with or after your snack. A. - who hopes she's not scaring someone away by going nuts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 3, 2001 Report Share Posted January 3, 2001 > thanks for the kind response. i have canadian bacon and an egg for > breakfast. tuna with a chopped hard egg and mayo or baked fish (salt > and pepper only) for lunch. a cornish hen for dinner last night, the > night before it was buffaloe wings with butter and tabasco sauce. for > snack i have hard sausage and pepper jack cheese. i also have gin and > diet tonic (no carbs) in the evening. suggestions are appreciated. > thanks again. > Well, those of you who have been around a while know I can't possibly keep my mouth shut. First, how much water are you drinking? You didn't list any. It's important that you drink water. Opinions on how much vary, but the most commonly recommended is 64oz plus 8 ounces for every 25pounds you need to lose. Additionally, if you drink caffeine or alcohol you need to drink *even more* and again, more if you're eating a lot of salty items. You may find you need less, but a majority of people need to follow these guidelines for water drinking in order to continue losing weight. For induction, you should nix the alcohol all together. Finally, you need vegetables! A multi-vitamin would be a good idea as well. Here are changes I would make to your menu. (By the way, I know I'm super nitpicky, don't take it hard, you're really making a superb effort!) Breakfast it's fine, but maybe have another egg and drink 16oz of water with it. (you didn't state how much canadian bacon, but in general, one of those little slices is .5carbs and eggs are .5 (or .6 if you use large, etc. etc) so I'd call 2 eggs and a slice of canadian bacon as 1.5 and round to 2 just in case. Lunch: fine, but you should add 2 cups salad (for induction I'd recommend lettuce and cucumber and be sure to count the carbs for any other induction " ok " veggies you add). On your salad, use small amounts of the lowest carb dressing you can find, Newman's dijon lime is a good choice, as is Ken's steakhouse creamy caesar. A lot of ranch and bleu cheese dressings are usually 1 carb per 2 Tablespoons. You will find that you won't need as much dressing as you think. Put your dressing on top of the salad and then shake it all together. You'll be surprised to find that 2 Tablespoons will actually put a thin coating on your entire salad. I would " guestimate " an induction salad at 6 or 7 carbs. Again, drink 16 oz. water. If you have a chopped egg we'll call that .5 and 1 Tablespoon mayonnaise as .5. So for lunch the total would be about 8 carbs. Dinner: the protein is great! Again, you need vegetables, try 1 cup salad and 1/2 cup cooked vegetables (like green beans, broccoli or cauliflower). The salad would probably be about 3 or 4 carbs and the cooked veggie, about 4 (probably less) carbs. So that would be about 8 carbs. Again, drink 16 oz. water. Those three meals consist of 18 carbohydrates. That leaves you with very little snack room, but that would be 2 ounces of any cheese that is 1 carb per ounce or 4 hard boiled eggs (or a combination 1 oz cheese and 2 hard boiled eggs) or 2 hard boiled eggs and 1/2 cup sugar free jello. (In other words, your snacks need to be less than 2 carbs. You should drink water with or after your snack. A. - who hopes she's not scaring someone away by going nuts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 3, 2001 Report Share Posted January 3, 2001 Bob, while I'm a big believer in fiber, I would suggest that for induction that you nix the metamucil. Some irregularity is normal whenever there is a change in eating habits and that will correct itsself in short order. I think adding the vegetables and tweaking your menu will also help in that department. A. > thanks for all the constructive comments. the only other thing i'm > doing is sugar-free metamucil, i tsp. in a full glass of water once > or twice per day, 5 carbs per tsp. i feel i need it since my " habits " > are very, very different than before i started the diet. any other > suggestions about the change in regularity, which is no longer > regular? > > thanks again, > > bob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 3, 2001 Report Share Posted January 3, 2001 Bob, while I'm a big believer in fiber, I would suggest that for induction that you nix the metamucil. Some irregularity is normal whenever there is a change in eating habits and that will correct itsself in short order. I think adding the vegetables and tweaking your menu will also help in that department. A. > thanks for all the constructive comments. the only other thing i'm > doing is sugar-free metamucil, i tsp. in a full glass of water once > or twice per day, 5 carbs per tsp. i feel i need it since my " habits " > are very, very different than before i started the diet. any other > suggestions about the change in regularity, which is no longer > regular? > > thanks again, > > bob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 3, 2001 Report Share Posted January 3, 2001 Post your complete diet....including fluids & supplements.......wait, haven't we already done this or was that another list? Yikes, I'm getting old or I spend too much time online....lol AnnMArie --- bobkat1955@... wrote: > hello, i'm new to the group. i'm a 45 year old male, > 192 with a goal > of 175. i'm in my 7th day of STRICT induction. my > weight has not > changed and ketostix are still neutral. any > suggestions? thanks! > bob > > __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 3, 2001 Report Share Posted January 3, 2001 Post your complete diet....including fluids & supplements.......wait, haven't we already done this or was that another list? Yikes, I'm getting old or I spend too much time online....lol AnnMArie --- bobkat1955@... wrote: > hello, i'm new to the group. i'm a 45 year old male, > 192 with a goal > of 175. i'm in my 7th day of STRICT induction. my > weight has not > changed and ketostix are still neutral. any > suggestions? thanks! > bob > > __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 3, 2001 Report Share Posted January 3, 2001 heather, thanks for your kind suggestions. i do indeed drink lots of water. 2 glasses before breakfast, 2 glasses at bedtime and lots during the day. i will nix the small amount on gin anyway and add the veggies. i'll report back after my 2 weeks of induction are over. i'm in my 8th day. thanks again. bob > Bob, while I'm a big believer in fiber, I would suggest that for induction > that you nix the metamucil. Some irregularity is normal whenever there is a > change in eating habits and that will correct itsself in short order. I > think adding the vegetables and tweaking your menu will also help in that > department. > > A. > > > thanks for all the constructive comments. the only other thing i'm > > doing is sugar-free metamucil, i tsp. in a full glass of water once > > or twice per day, 5 carbs per tsp. i feel i need it since my " habits " > > are very, very different than before i started the diet. any other > > suggestions about the change in regularity, which is no longer > > regular? > > > > thanks again, > > > > bob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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