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hi sandy

mine was 2 cm but way back and could not easily be felt. thank god i gained

all that weight to know something was wrong...a great endo/gyne can detect

the abnormal easily. mine did this year....

2 years ago, after 2 years of back pain, i finally went to the doctors and

had an x-ray which showed nothing and then MRI which not only showed " lots of

arthritis but possible thyroid cancel " . my GP ordered a thyroid scan and

they said 3 nodules, but " not to worry " . if i knew what i know now, i

probably myself would have requested a biopsy " just to be sure " . it ended up

in the lymph nodes now....

thanks

renata

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Hi Sandy,

Possibly they are getting a 2nd pathologist to check it out in Oakland.

A 2nd opinion so to speak??

Kathi

pap

dx 1998

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Hi Sandy,

Possibly they are getting a 2nd pathologist to check it out in Oakland.

A 2nd opinion so to speak??

Kathi

pap

dx 1998

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No harm in trying. Just take the calories from his regular meals....or

increase calories overall. We tried it with Jake sort of....it was hard to

do because we would need to wake him to eat, and then try to get him back

down.

I don't especially think it would help the late morning seizures though.

I would try that over depakote first.

Barb Swoyer

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> <How old/big is Connor? >

> <Barb Swoyer >

>

> Connor is 5 years old and weighs 37 lbs.

>

> Does anyone think that if Connor is having most of his seizures in the

> morning and then 1-2 just before lunch that it could help to add a late

> night snack? My neuro want to add more Depakote but I am desperate to try

> other things first.

> Becky

>

>

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No harm in trying. Just take the calories from his regular meals....or

increase calories overall. We tried it with Jake sort of....it was hard to

do because we would need to wake him to eat, and then try to get him back

down.

I don't especially think it would help the late morning seizures though.

I would try that over depakote first.

Barb Swoyer

(unknown)

> <How old/big is Connor? >

> <Barb Swoyer >

>

> Connor is 5 years old and weighs 37 lbs.

>

> Does anyone think that if Connor is having most of his seizures in the

> morning and then 1-2 just before lunch that it could help to add a late

> night snack? My neuro want to add more Depakote but I am desperate to try

> other things first.

> Becky

>

>

>

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Yugoslav87

Synthroid has not been taking off the market. Synthroid is and will continue

to be the leader in thyroid hormone manufacturing.

There are about 8 million persons relying on this medication everyday

and this well known form of levo-thyroxine has been in the market for over

50 years.

Patients and doctors depend on Synthroid every day!

The FDA has not taken Synthroid off the market.

Synthroid is here to stay.

The manufacturer of Synthroid, Knoll, applied for a variance on the new law

that required Synthroid to be presented again to the FDA as a new drug

because of its extended use for so many years.

Earlier this year the FDA said " No " , and Knoll had to prepare again all the

studies and data necessary to present Synthroid as a new drug.

Last month the new owner of Knoll, Abbott, presented all the necessary data

for the " new launching " of Synthroid.

As far as I know everythimng is going well at the FDA and they are studying

the data.

They also went to court to stop the false advertising that was being done by

pharmaceuticals trying to start selling their Unithroid brand of

thyroid hormone.

##############################################

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arolla@... arolla@...

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> Did you know that synthroid is not approved by the FDA. It has been

> around for about 40 years and is not approved. I met a person who

> had graves disease and had her thyroid gland removed at the age of

> 15. She took synthroid and became very sick. She mentioned that

> there is a class action lawsuit against the manufacture. I am trying

> to find out more about that. I am currently taking synthroid also.

> I had my entire thyroid gland remove December 2000. I had a

> nodule/cyst on my right lobe. During my surgery the gland was

> examined and cancer was not detected. I was called back less than a

> week later by my doctor. Follicular cancer had been found in the

> center of the cyst. I had to go through with the surgury twice. I

> have been seeing an endroconologist. I turned 32 in May of this year.

> Anyone with a similar experiance?

>

>

>

> For more information regarding thyroid cancer visit www.thyca.org. If you

do not wish to belong to this group, you may UNSUBSCRIBE by sending a blank

email to thyca-unsubscribe

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>

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Hi Yugo...

>

> Follicular cancer had been found in the center of

> the cyst. I had to go through with the surgury

> twice. Anyone with a similar experiance?

>

Yes, the same thing happened to me. My first surgery

was done to remove the left lobe that contained a 2.5

cm suspicious nodule. A frozen section was done while

I was in surgery but it was determined to be benign.

I was stitched up and sent home the next day.

Four days later my surgeon called to say the final

pathology determined the nodule was actually a

follicular carcinoma. Final pathology had also

located a second " incidental " papillary carcinoma (.9

cm) too (two very separate and distinct cancers had

been identified)! I was rescheduled to have the

remaining thyoid removed 10 days later.

From what I've read, this is not uncommon with

Follicular carcinoma. A positive diagnosis is made

based on invasion through the capsule wall of the

tumor. A benign adenoma <sp?> does not invade the

capsule wall whereas a carcinoma will attempt to

spread beyond it's confines.

=====

Christy, 42, Las Vegas

2.5 cm Follicular and .9 mm Papillary

2/26/01 LL (Frozen Section was read as benign)

3/10/01 TT after a positive final pathology

Hypoparathyroidism (.5 Rocaltrol/1500 mg calcium daily)

3/28/01 145 mCi RAI (without LID)

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Urmil,

Welcome to our list. I'm so sorry to hear of your son's seizures. I

highly recommend the ketogenic diet. We tried about 8 medicines &

nothing seemed to help. The diet has been our miracle. Most stats say

that the diet will completely stop seizures in 1/3 of children, help

reduce the seizures in about 1/3, and will not work in about 1/3. I have

no knowledge of the diet in India. It is very time consuming to prepare

the meals (especially in the beginning), but if the diet works, it is

WELL WORTH the extra time spent. The different hospitals all have

different lengths of the hospital stay (I'd say most are 3 days to 7days,

depending on the child). I would think the diet would be easily made

into a vegetarian diet. You would be involved in the mealplanning, I

would think that you could use whatever protein sources that you

currently use.

I wish you well on your search. By the way, your English is

outstanding. Once again, welcome to our list.

Kathy in Tennessee

Mom to - 6 - Keto kid since 02/00, Med free, seizures 95% reduced

Mom to 'lil sis, a - 3

" Even to your old age and gray hairs I am He, I am He who will sustain

you. I have made you and I will carry you; I will sustain you and I will

rescue you. "

Isaiah 46:4

On Mon, 03 Sep 2001 05:53:52 " urmil dwivedi "

writes:

> Hi,

>

> I am Mrs urmil Dwivedi.My son Udbhav is 3 1/2 years old. He was

> underweight

> at birth and got apnic attack and underwent hypoglycemia. In 20 days

> time he

> came home and he grew normally thereafter. At the age of 11 months

> he

> started having jerks. They are still persisting. He is having

> treatment in

> AIIMS (Delhi, India) under the guidance of Dr. Veena Calra.He gets

> 3-4 jerks

> per day of max 2-3 sec dur. He is diagnised as having Infantile

> spasm and

> delayed milestones. Recently I read about keto diet. We are very

> keen on

> trying it. I want to know :

> How successful it is ?

> How successful it is in india ?

> How difficult it is to maintain ?

> How many days the child has to be in Hospital initially.

> I have read about Royal Children Hospital, Melbourne, Aust., and

> many

> successful cases of the same. Is it a better option.

> WHat are the diets for Vegetarians.

> Addresse of successful parents from India.

>

> Thanks

> Urmil

>

>

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Urmil,

Welcome to our list. I'm so sorry to hear of your son's seizures. I

highly recommend the ketogenic diet. We tried about 8 medicines &

nothing seemed to help. The diet has been our miracle. Most stats say

that the diet will completely stop seizures in 1/3 of children, help

reduce the seizures in about 1/3, and will not work in about 1/3. I have

no knowledge of the diet in India. It is very time consuming to prepare

the meals (especially in the beginning), but if the diet works, it is

WELL WORTH the extra time spent. The different hospitals all have

different lengths of the hospital stay (I'd say most are 3 days to 7days,

depending on the child). I would think the diet would be easily made

into a vegetarian diet. You would be involved in the mealplanning, I

would think that you could use whatever protein sources that you

currently use.

I wish you well on your search. By the way, your English is

outstanding. Once again, welcome to our list.

Kathy in Tennessee

Mom to - 6 - Keto kid since 02/00, Med free, seizures 95% reduced

Mom to 'lil sis, a - 3

" Even to your old age and gray hairs I am He, I am He who will sustain

you. I have made you and I will carry you; I will sustain you and I will

rescue you. "

Isaiah 46:4

On Mon, 03 Sep 2001 05:53:52 " urmil dwivedi "

writes:

> Hi,

>

> I am Mrs urmil Dwivedi.My son Udbhav is 3 1/2 years old. He was

> underweight

> at birth and got apnic attack and underwent hypoglycemia. In 20 days

> time he

> came home and he grew normally thereafter. At the age of 11 months

> he

> started having jerks. They are still persisting. He is having

> treatment in

> AIIMS (Delhi, India) under the guidance of Dr. Veena Calra.He gets

> 3-4 jerks

> per day of max 2-3 sec dur. He is diagnised as having Infantile

> spasm and

> delayed milestones. Recently I read about keto diet. We are very

> keen on

> trying it. I want to know :

> How successful it is ?

> How successful it is in india ?

> How difficult it is to maintain ?

> How many days the child has to be in Hospital initially.

> I have read about Royal Children Hospital, Melbourne, Aust., and

> many

> successful cases of the same. Is it a better option.

> WHat are the diets for Vegetarians.

> Addresse of successful parents from India.

>

> Thanks

> Urmil

>

>

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On Tue, 04 Sep 2001 16:11:43 +1000 Donavan Marney writes:

does get recurrent ear infections which we are treating with sofrodex. and has intermittent bouts of constipation and diarrhoea which come and go and although earlier on we thought they were diet related, seem not te be so.

Yeast from over use of antibiotics can cause reoccurring ear infections and also be

a factor in constipation and diarrhea! along with causing seizures themselves. Recently

there were some very good posts regarding treating yeast. Titled 'question on eardrops'.

If you have any questions lemme know I have some excellent links...

heres one to read...

Dr Shaw.... http://www.greatplainslaboratory.com/newpage12.htm

his ketones at the moment are quite good fluctuating between 4-8, and mainly at 8. can anyone relate urine ketones to blood ketones as i have a device for measuring blood ketones, but i am unsure what we should be aiming for!!

I have a glucometer that also measures blood ketones. I found that s urine ketones

dont match blood ketones. I would use the multi stix as just a general guide, but

when ketones really matter (some kids are extremely sensitive, Bry is not) you need

to keep track of your seizure control along with the blood ketones. I think every kid

is different Some do best with lower ketones, some with higher, but as a general rule

Docs shoot for 4-8 on the blood.

cya

Barb...Bryasn mom

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On Tue, 04 Sep 2001 16:11:43 +1000 Donavan Marney writes:

does get recurrent ear infections which we are treating with sofrodex. and has intermittent bouts of constipation and diarrhoea which come and go and although earlier on we thought they were diet related, seem not te be so.

Yeast from over use of antibiotics can cause reoccurring ear infections and also be

a factor in constipation and diarrhea! along with causing seizures themselves. Recently

there were some very good posts regarding treating yeast. Titled 'question on eardrops'.

If you have any questions lemme know I have some excellent links...

heres one to read...

Dr Shaw.... http://www.greatplainslaboratory.com/newpage12.htm

his ketones at the moment are quite good fluctuating between 4-8, and mainly at 8. can anyone relate urine ketones to blood ketones as i have a device for measuring blood ketones, but i am unsure what we should be aiming for!!

I have a glucometer that also measures blood ketones. I found that s urine ketones

dont match blood ketones. I would use the multi stix as just a general guide, but

when ketones really matter (some kids are extremely sensitive, Bry is not) you need

to keep track of your seizure control along with the blood ketones. I think every kid

is different Some do best with lower ketones, some with higher, but as a general rule

Docs shoot for 4-8 on the blood.

cya

Barb...Bryasn mom

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Hi Urmil,

I wanted to tell you that my son did the very same thing at 11 mos. He

started with infantile spasms and we started ACTH at that time. He went on

and off ACTH until he was about 2 1/2 and that is when we started the diet.

has been very successful, seizure free and med free since about 3

weeks after starting the diet! The diet is worth it! It is not hard to

learn or maintain once you get going. was in the hospital for 1 week.

It took about 30 hours of fasting for him to get into Ketosis. Hope this

helps...good luck,

3.4 Angelman Syndrome

KGD 11/00

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> Hi,

>

> I am Mrs urmil Dwivedi.My son Udbhav is 3 1/2 years old. He was

underweight

> at birth and got apnic attack and underwent hypoglycemia. In 20 days time

he

> came home and he grew normally thereafter. At the age of 11 months he

> started having jerks. They are still persisting. He is having treatment in

> AIIMS (Delhi, India) under the guidance of Dr. Veena Calra.He gets 3-4

jerks

> per day of max 2-3 sec dur. He is diagnised as having Infantile spasm and

> delayed milestones. Recently I read about keto diet. We are very keen on

> trying it. I want to know :

> How successful it is ?

> How successful it is in india ?

> How difficult it is to maintain ?

> How many days the child has to be in Hospital initially.

> I have read about Royal Children Hospital, Melbourne, Aust., and many

> successful cases of the same. Is it a better option.

> WHat are the diets for Vegetarians.

> Addresse of successful parents from India.

>

> Thanks

> Urmil

>

>

> _________________________________________________________________

> Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp

>

>

>

> " The Ketogenic Diet....a realistic treatment option, NOT just a last

resort! "

>

> List is for parent to parent support only.

> It is important to get medical advice from a professional

keto team!

> Subscribe: ketogenic-subscribe

> Unsubscribe: ketogenic-unsubscribe

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Hi Urmil,

I wanted to tell you that my son did the very same thing at 11 mos. He

started with infantile spasms and we started ACTH at that time. He went on

and off ACTH until he was about 2 1/2 and that is when we started the diet.

has been very successful, seizure free and med free since about 3

weeks after starting the diet! The diet is worth it! It is not hard to

learn or maintain once you get going. was in the hospital for 1 week.

It took about 30 hours of fasting for him to get into Ketosis. Hope this

helps...good luck,

3.4 Angelman Syndrome

KGD 11/00

(unknown)

> Hi,

>

> I am Mrs urmil Dwivedi.My son Udbhav is 3 1/2 years old. He was

underweight

> at birth and got apnic attack and underwent hypoglycemia. In 20 days time

he

> came home and he grew normally thereafter. At the age of 11 months he

> started having jerks. They are still persisting. He is having treatment in

> AIIMS (Delhi, India) under the guidance of Dr. Veena Calra.He gets 3-4

jerks

> per day of max 2-3 sec dur. He is diagnised as having Infantile spasm and

> delayed milestones. Recently I read about keto diet. We are very keen on

> trying it. I want to know :

> How successful it is ?

> How successful it is in india ?

> How difficult it is to maintain ?

> How many days the child has to be in Hospital initially.

> I have read about Royal Children Hospital, Melbourne, Aust., and many

> successful cases of the same. Is it a better option.

> WHat are the diets for Vegetarians.

> Addresse of successful parents from India.

>

> Thanks

> Urmil

>

>

> _________________________________________________________________

> Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp

>

>

>

> " The Ketogenic Diet....a realistic treatment option, NOT just a last

resort! "

>

> List is for parent to parent support only.

> It is important to get medical advice from a professional

keto team!

> Subscribe: ketogenic-subscribe

> Unsubscribe: ketogenic-unsubscribe

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>

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DeEtte,

My naturopathic physician recently told me about a device called a grounding pad. It is a mattress pad that "grounds" the electrical field of the body. The pad is made of carbon filament that is used in computer chip laboratories. It has a wire with a metal stake attached that goes out the window and into the ground. The naturopath claims his daughter never slept through the night until he got her one of these. He said he and his wife also sleep with one and find their sleep is more restful. Part of the problem is that all wires in the house give off an electromagnetic field that affect the body. He had one of the pads in his office and he put my daughter on it. He ungrounded it and had her hold a voltage meter. It read 200 millavolts. Then he snapped the grounding wire onto the pad and her body measured 1 millavolt. He said that the earth is slightly negatively charged and being connected with it will dissipate excess electricity in the body.

That was enough for me - I contacted the company and my daughter has been sleeping on one for a week now. I have noticed that she is now giving up her daytime nap, so maybe she is resting better. I have also unplugged all cords in her room at night - no more night light, CD player, etc.

The owner of the company told me he had just attended a naturopathic conference in Phoenix where he presented material on his grounding pad. He says that this pad allows the body to rest in a more natural state( for millions of years humans slept on the ground) so that healing can occur within the body.

I have begun exploring this whole electromagnetic theory and find that my daughter seems to seize more often on carpet or with rubber soled shoes on (she has mostly myoclonics). It seems that carpet generates static electricity in the body and rubber soles do not allow the energy to leave the body. And obviously seizure prone kids are more sensitive to it. This week I have been sending her out to play barefoot and I have only observed one seizure, which is much less than usual.

The neuro tells me that my daughter's brain goes nuts at night and seizes constantly, though she looks to be so peaceful. I would love to do another EEG with this grounding pad.

If you are interested, check out their website:

http://www.earthtether.com

Sandy, 's mom

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Geese. . .I feel like a broken record here. We'restill having problems with night seizures -- andthey're getting worse and my daughter is barelysleeping, nor, of course, am I. We visited ourhomeopathic physician yesterday and he 100% agreedthat there is a gut-brain connection here and gave metwo digestive enzymes to try. I'm in the process ofresearching this and plan to introduce very slowly. However, in the short term, I still think there'ssomething I have to be able to do to help her throughthe night. I think a partial solution may be abedtime snack -- although I've tried this before withlimited success. What I was doing was 50 caloriesworth of macademia nuts (about 6). I also saw a postearlier this week (which has been such a blur) about a"7-11" snack. . . 7 grams of peanut butter/11 grams ofbutter, which met this particular child'srequirements. I also saved a post from awhile back(just don't have it handy) from a Mom who said theyadded bedtime fruits/veggies. . .wondering if this wasjust fruits/veggies or if it was balanced withfat/protein.I know I've asked this before. . .but any thoughts onthis bedtime snack thing? It's just so difficultbecause her nights have been a mess for almost a week.Then she pops up awake by 6 a.m. and is "fine" -- oras fine as you can be on a total lack of meaningfuldeep sleep. I just know I'm not sending her off toschool well-rested and prepared to learn!Appreciate any thoughts! Thanks--D=====DeEtte -- Mom to (, 6, keto-kid since 1/01, med-free, seizures greatly reduced) and (, 4), sdale, AZ"I know God would never give me more than I can handle. . .I just wish he didn't trust me so much."__________________________________________________

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Hi,

The 7-11 post was mine. My son has three meals a day spread out pretty

evenly at about 343 calories each plus he gets 120 calorie snack before

bedtime. From what I understand it is to keep his ketones at a

consistent level (160 for him). Here are the calculations:

7g Skippy Creamy Peanut Butter-Pro 1.31-Fat 3.50-Carb 1.53-Cal 43

11g Butter-Pro .07-Fat 8.95-Carb 0.0-Cal 81

Mix them together.

This is by far his favorite.

I have two more 120 calorie snacks if you want them.

Jello and whipped cream or chocolate " ice cream "

I sympathize with you on the sleep time seizures. Dillon had seizures

all night long for months. We seem to have good control with the diet on

this point. Good Luck . Hope this helps a little! Ariane

(Dillon,5,ketokid7/24/2001)

On Wed, 12 Sep 2001 12:26:15 -0700 (PDT) DeEtte Person

writes:

> Geese. . .I feel like a broken record here. We're

> still having problems with night seizures -- and

> they're getting worse and my daughter is barely

> sleeping, nor, of course, am I. We visited our

> homeopathic physician yesterday and he 100% agreed

> that there is a gut-brain connection here and gave me

> two digestive enzymes to try. I'm in the process of

> researching this and plan to introduce very slowly.

> However, in the short term, I still think there's

> something I have to be able to do to help her through

> the night. I think a partial solution may be a

> bedtime snack -- although I've tried this before with

> limited success. What I was doing was 50 calories

> worth of macademia nuts (about 6). I also saw a post

> earlier this week (which has been such a blur) about a

> " 7-11 " snack. . . 7 grams of peanut butter/11 grams of

> butter, which met this particular child's

> requirements. I also saved a post from awhile back

> (just don't have it handy) from a Mom who said they

> added bedtime fruits/veggies. . .wondering if this was

> just fruits/veggies or if it was balanced with

> fat/protein.

>

> I know I've asked this before. . .but any thoughts on

> this bedtime snack thing? It's just so difficult

> because her nights have been a mess for almost a week.

> Then she pops up awake by 6 a.m. and is " fine " -- or

> as fine as you can be on a total lack of meaningful

> deep sleep. I just know I'm not sending her off to

> school well-rested and prepared to learn!

>

> Appreciate any thoughts! Thanks--D

>

> =====

> DeEtte -- Mom to (, 6, keto-kid since 1/01, med-free, seizures

> greatly reduced) and (, 4), sdale, AZ

>

> " I know God would never give me more than I can handle. . .I just

> wish he didn't trust me so much. "

>

> __________________________________________________

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Thank you, this is a completely new thought worth

investigating. . . I've had others mention this to me,

too. Glad to hear it's helping your daughter!--D

--- Crisman wrote:

> DeEtte,

>

> My naturopathic physician recently told me about a

> device called a grounding pad. It is a mattress pad

> that " grounds " the electrical field of the body.

> The pad is made of carbon filament that is used in

> computer chip laboratories. It has a wire with a

> metal stake attached that goes out the window and

> into the ground. The naturopath claims his daughter

> never slept through the night until he got her one

> of these. He said he and his wife also sleep with

> one and find their sleep is more restful. Part of

> the problem is that all wires in the house give off

> an electromagnetic field that affect the body. He

> had one of the pads in his office and he put my

> daughter on it. He ungrounded it and had her hold a

> voltage meter. It read 200 millavolts. Then he

> snapped the grounding wire onto the pad and her body

> measured 1 millavolt. He said that the earth is

> slightly negatively charged and being connected with

> it will dissipate excess electricity in the body.

>

> That was enough for me - I contacted the company and

> my daughter has been sleeping on one for a week now.

> I have noticed that she is now giving up her

> daytime nap, so maybe she is resting better. I

> have also unplugged all cords in her room at night -

> no more night light, CD player, etc.

>

> The owner of the company told me he had just

> attended a naturopathic conference in Phoenix where

> he presented material on his grounding pad. He says

> that this pad allows the body to rest in a more

> natural state( for millions of years humans slept on

> the ground) so that healing can occur within the

> body.

>

> I have begun exploring this whole electromagnetic

> theory and find that my daughter seems to seize more

> often on carpet or with rubber soled shoes on (she

> has mostly myoclonics). It seems that carpet

> generates static electricity in the body and rubber

> soles do not allow the energy to leave the body.

> And obviously seizure prone kids are more sensitive

> to it. This week I have been sending her out to play

> barefoot and I have only observed one seizure, which

> is much less than usual.

>

> The neuro tells me that my daughter's brain goes

> nuts at night and seizes constantly, though she

> looks to be so peaceful. I would love to do

> another EEG with this grounding pad.

>

> If you are interested, check out their website:

>

> http://www.earthtether.com

>

> Sandy, 's mom

>

>

> (unknown)

>

>

> Geese. . .I feel like a broken record here. We're

> still having problems with night seizures -- and

> they're getting worse and my daughter is barely

> sleeping, nor, of course, am I. We visited our

> homeopathic physician yesterday and he 100% agreed

> that there is a gut-brain connection here and gave

> me

> two digestive enzymes to try. I'm in the process

> of

> researching this and plan to introduce very

> slowly.

> However, in the short term, I still think there's

> something I have to be able to do to help her

> through

> the night. I think a partial solution may be a

> bedtime snack -- although I've tried this before

> with

> limited success. What I was doing was 50 calories

> worth of macademia nuts (about 6). I also saw a

> post

> earlier this week (which has been such a blur)

> about a

> " 7-11 " snack. . . 7 grams of peanut butter/11

> grams of

> butter, which met this particular child's

> requirements. I also saved a post from awhile

> back

> (just don't have it handy) from a Mom who said

> they

> added bedtime fruits/veggies. . .wondering if this

> was

> just fruits/veggies or if it was balanced with

> fat/protein.

>

> I know I've asked this before. . .but any thoughts

> on

> this bedtime snack thing? It's just so difficult

> because her nights have been a mess for almost a

> week.

> Then she pops up awake by 6 a.m. and is " fine " --

> or

> as fine as you can be on a total lack of

> meaningful

> deep sleep. I just know I'm not sending her off

> to

> school well-rested and prepared to learn!

>

> Appreciate any thoughts! Thanks--D

>

> =====

> DeEtte -- Mom to (, 6, keto-kid since 1/01,

> med-free, seizures greatly reduced) and (,

> 4), sdale, AZ

>

> " I know God would never give me more than I can

> handle. . .I just wish he didn't trust me so much. "

>

> __________________________________________________

>

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Hi

welcome to the list.

This sounds more like a urinary tract infection. Push lots of water. If it gets

worse go

to doctor. Kidney stones usually cause back pain not stomach pain.

Good luck.

Faye

poohdle29@... wrote:

> Hello everyone - I am brand new to the group and to the diet. My

> daughter is 17, and just started the diet in July after failing 6

> drugs since being diagnoised with epilepsy at age 15. Today she

> noticed that her urine was red, and I'm worrried that it is blood. I

> have looked back in past messages and realize that it could be kidney

> stones, but could they appear so quickly? She was on Topomax for

> about 6 months. She did have what I thought was the flu last week,

> with vomiting and stomach pain, and she still complains of achy/sharp

> stomach pain, but she has no fever and her energy level is normal.

> Nuero said it would take over a year for them to form...Do I believe

> this and quit worrying, or do I rush to the E.R.? What else could

> cause blood, and could it be that it isn't blood? This may sound

> really stupid, but she had tomato sauce for the first time the last

> two evenings - could the red from the tomatoes be showing up in the

> urine? Thank you for any help.

>

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Hi

welcome to the list.

This sounds more like a urinary tract infection. Push lots of water. If it gets

worse go

to doctor. Kidney stones usually cause back pain not stomach pain.

Good luck.

Faye

poohdle29@... wrote:

> Hello everyone - I am brand new to the group and to the diet. My

> daughter is 17, and just started the diet in July after failing 6

> drugs since being diagnoised with epilepsy at age 15. Today she

> noticed that her urine was red, and I'm worrried that it is blood. I

> have looked back in past messages and realize that it could be kidney

> stones, but could they appear so quickly? She was on Topomax for

> about 6 months. She did have what I thought was the flu last week,

> with vomiting and stomach pain, and she still complains of achy/sharp

> stomach pain, but she has no fever and her energy level is normal.

> Nuero said it would take over a year for them to form...Do I believe

> this and quit worrying, or do I rush to the E.R.? What else could

> cause blood, and could it be that it isn't blood? This may sound

> really stupid, but she had tomato sauce for the first time the last

> two evenings - could the red from the tomatoes be showing up in the

> urine? Thank you for any help.

>

>

> " The Ketogenic Diet....a realistic treatment option, NOT just a last

resort! "

>

> List is for parent to parent support only.

> It is important to get medical advice from a professional

keto team!

> Subscribe: ketogenic-subscribe

> Unsubscribe: ketogenic-unsubscribe

>

>

>

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poohdle29@... wrote:

Nuero said it would take over a year for them

to form...Do I believe

this and quit worrying, or do I rush to the E.R.?

I think your answer is in between these two options, I would take a urine

sample to the lab for analysis. Could be kidney stones (the topomax might

have been setting her up in advance, is she still on it?), could

be UTI or could be she is dehydrated from flu. But yes, do get it checked

out. Do you have the multistix to check her urine with ? If not, I would

get some pronto.

Good luck and let us know what happens?

One more thought, her period??

, mom of (8), ketokid since 2/98

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poohdle29@... wrote:

Nuero said it would take over a year for them

to form...Do I believe

this and quit worrying, or do I rush to the E.R.?

I think your answer is in between these two options, I would take a urine

sample to the lab for analysis. Could be kidney stones (the topomax might

have been setting her up in advance, is she still on it?), could

be UTI or could be she is dehydrated from flu. But yes, do get it checked

out. Do you have the multistix to check her urine with ? If not, I would

get some pronto.

Good luck and let us know what happens?

One more thought, her period??

, mom of (8), ketokid since 2/98

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, for what its worth at this stage, I agree with those who have already

suggested a urinary tract infection. There might be a tummy ache, or what I

would call a dull pain in the abdomen (from personal experience) and

possibly blood if the bladder lining is irritated enough by the infection.

Hannah had reddish colouring early in the diet but it is not normal for her

now. As the others have said, give plenty of fluids and keep a careful eye

out for any changes. Kidney stones would presumably cause greater pain.

Let us know how your daughter goes . Hope it clears up soon.

(Hannah's mum, Australia)

(unknown)

> Hello everyone - I am brand new to the group and to the diet. My

> daughter is 17, and just started the diet in July after failing 6

> drugs since being diagnoised with epilepsy at age 15. Today she

> noticed that her urine was red, and I'm worrried that it is blood. I

> have looked back in past messages and realize that it could be kidney

> stones, but could they appear so quickly? She was on Topomax for

> about 6 months. She did have what I thought was the flu last week,

> with vomiting and stomach pain, and she still complains of achy/sharp

> stomach pain, but she has no fever and her energy level is normal.

> Nuero said it would take over a year for them to form...Do I believe

> this and quit worrying, or do I rush to the E.R.? What else could

> cause blood, and could it be that it isn't blood? This may sound

> really stupid, but she had tomato sauce for the first time the last

> two evenings - could the red from the tomatoes be showing up in the

> urine? Thank you for any help.

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, for what its worth at this stage, I agree with those who have already

suggested a urinary tract infection. There might be a tummy ache, or what I

would call a dull pain in the abdomen (from personal experience) and

possibly blood if the bladder lining is irritated enough by the infection.

Hannah had reddish colouring early in the diet but it is not normal for her

now. As the others have said, give plenty of fluids and keep a careful eye

out for any changes. Kidney stones would presumably cause greater pain.

Let us know how your daughter goes . Hope it clears up soon.

(Hannah's mum, Australia)

(unknown)

> Hello everyone - I am brand new to the group and to the diet. My

> daughter is 17, and just started the diet in July after failing 6

> drugs since being diagnoised with epilepsy at age 15. Today she

> noticed that her urine was red, and I'm worrried that it is blood. I

> have looked back in past messages and realize that it could be kidney

> stones, but could they appear so quickly? She was on Topomax for

> about 6 months. She did have what I thought was the flu last week,

> with vomiting and stomach pain, and she still complains of achy/sharp

> stomach pain, but she has no fever and her energy level is normal.

> Nuero said it would take over a year for them to form...Do I believe

> this and quit worrying, or do I rush to the E.R.? What else could

> cause blood, and could it be that it isn't blood? This may sound

> really stupid, but she had tomato sauce for the first time the last

> two evenings - could the red from the tomatoes be showing up in the

> urine? Thank you for any help.

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,

I would always take blood very seriously. I would definitely get it

checked out. It could be a urinary tract infection or maybe her period.

Kathy in Tennessee

Mom to - 6 - Keto kid since 02/00, Med free, seizures 95% reduced

Mom to 'lil sis, a - 3

" Even to your old age and gray hairs I am He, I am He who will sustain

you. I have made you and I will carry you; I will sustain you and I will

rescue you. "

Isaiah 46:4

On Sun, 23 Sep 2001 06:12:37 -0000 poohdle29@... writes:

> Hello everyone - I am brand new to the group and to the diet. My

> daughter is 17, and just started the diet in July after failing 6

> drugs since being diagnoised with epilepsy at age 15. Today she

> noticed that her urine was red, and I'm worrried that it is blood.

> I

> have looked back in past messages and realize that it could be

> kidney

> stones, but could they appear so quickly? She was on Topomax for

> about 6 months. She did have what I thought was the flu last week,

> with vomiting and stomach pain, and she still complains of

> achy/sharp

> stomach pain, but she has no fever and her energy level is normal.

> Nuero said it would take over a year for them to form...Do I believe

>

> this and quit worrying, or do I rush to the E.R.? What else could

> cause blood, and could it be that it isn't blood? This may sound

> really stupid, but she had tomato sauce for the first time the last

> two evenings - could the red from the tomatoes be showing up in the

> urine? Thank you for any help.

>

>

>

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,

I would always take blood very seriously. I would definitely get it

checked out. It could be a urinary tract infection or maybe her period.

Kathy in Tennessee

Mom to - 6 - Keto kid since 02/00, Med free, seizures 95% reduced

Mom to 'lil sis, a - 3

" Even to your old age and gray hairs I am He, I am He who will sustain

you. I have made you and I will carry you; I will sustain you and I will

rescue you. "

Isaiah 46:4

On Sun, 23 Sep 2001 06:12:37 -0000 poohdle29@... writes:

> Hello everyone - I am brand new to the group and to the diet. My

> daughter is 17, and just started the diet in July after failing 6

> drugs since being diagnoised with epilepsy at age 15. Today she

> noticed that her urine was red, and I'm worrried that it is blood.

> I

> have looked back in past messages and realize that it could be

> kidney

> stones, but could they appear so quickly? She was on Topomax for

> about 6 months. She did have what I thought was the flu last week,

> with vomiting and stomach pain, and she still complains of

> achy/sharp

> stomach pain, but she has no fever and her energy level is normal.

> Nuero said it would take over a year for them to form...Do I believe

>

> this and quit worrying, or do I rush to the E.R.? What else could

> cause blood, and could it be that it isn't blood? This may sound

> really stupid, but she had tomato sauce for the first time the last

> two evenings - could the red from the tomatoes be showing up in the

> urine? Thank you for any help.

>

>

>

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Bec, Sorry that you had to go thru those hard times. Take it easy. I'm ttc

myself, too and let us think positive!

Rita

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