Re: Regulating 's blood sugar

[Guest guest]

harry, please help me here

Nine p m evening b s five point eight

lantus eight now to make sure i do not go high in the morning? how many

carbs should i have now? thanks, karen

Re: Regulating 's blood sugar

>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>> :

>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>> This is none of my business, but I am very curious how you are

>>>>>>>>>>>>> currently

>>>>>>>>>>>>> calculating the amount of humalog that you are taking with

>>>>>>>>>>>>> your

>>>>>>>>>>>>> meal.

>>>>>>>>>>>>> I

>>>>>>>>>>>>> assume that you have a target blood sugar reading, let us say

>>>>>>>>>>>>> 100 -

>>>>>>>>>>>>> which

>>>>>>>>>>>>> would be 5.5 under your system. Therefore, you would take

>>>>>>>>>>>>> enough

>>>>>>>>>>>>> humalog

>>>>>>>>>>>>> to

>>>>>>>>>>>>> cover your current meal carbs. In addition, your humalog

>>>>>>>>>>>>> would

>>>>>>>>>>>>> be

>>>>>>>>>>>>> adjusted

>>>>>>>>>>>>> for a beginning reading higher or lower than your target blood

>>>>>>>>>>>>> sugar

>>>>>>>>>>>>> goal.

>>>>>>>>>>>>> This is the way I try to do it, sometimes more successfully

>>>>>>>>>>>>> than

>>>>>>>>>>>>> others.

>>>>>>>>>>>>> I

>>>>>>>>>>>>> do not see a pattern like this and I am just curious how you

>>>>>>>>>>>>> are

>>>>>>>>>>>>> approaching

>>>>>>>>>>>>> the issue. Again, this is none of my business, so feel free

>>>>>>>>>>>>> to

>>>>>>>>>>>>> ignore

>>>>>>>>>>>>> my

>>>>>>>>>>>>> intrusion. I look forward to continuing to be educated.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>> Marvin

>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>

[Guest guest]

I would recommend around 4 or 5 grams of carbs at bedtime. I usually eat

around 5 or 6 grams of carbs in the form of nuts at bedtime, simply because

I like them and they are slow acting carbs and they are delicious. In my

case this pushes my bs up around 30 or 40 points. This is about the same

number of points that a dose of Lantus lowers my bs during the night. By

doing this I do not run an extreme low during the night, which can trigger

the rebound effect. Thus I avoid the rebound effect and my fasting bs in

the mornings are usually around 100 points plus or minus 10 points. It is a

lot better than suffering the extreme lows during the night and waking up

with a fasting bs in the morning of 160 or so. If I translate these

readings into moles, it means a fasting bs target in the morning of 5.5 and

if I had that rebound it would be 8.9 or higher. Besides the rebound makes

me feel bad. After all the rebound is the body's involuntary safety

procedure to keep you alive and not dieing from those extreme lows that are

also very harmful to the body. The rebound effect is simply the body's way

of trying to survive.

Re: Regulating 's blood sugar

>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> :

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This is none of my business, but I am very curious how you

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> are

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> currently

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> calculating the amount of humalog that you are taking with

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> your

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> meal.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> assume that you have a target blood sugar reading, let us say

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 100 -

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> which

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> would be 5.5 under your system. Therefore, you would take

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> enough

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> humalog

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cover your current meal carbs. In addition, your humalog

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> would

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> be

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> adjusted

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for a beginning reading higher or lower than your target

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> blood

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sugar

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> goal.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This is the way I try to do it, sometimes more successfully

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> than

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> others.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> do not see a pattern like this and I am just curious how you

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> are

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> approaching

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the issue. Again, this is none of my business, so feel free

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ignore

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> my

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> intrusion. I look forward to continuing to be educated.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Marvin

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>

[Guest guest]

Harry:

If I understand correctly, is being instructed to take Lancet insulin

and then eat carbs in order to cover that insulin.

I am not familiar with Lancet insulin, but I have reservations with having

to consume carbs in order to cover an insulin dose. We should take insulin

to cover our food, not the reverse.

I take humalin n and humalin r. I take 5 units of humalin n at 9:00 PM,

which usually holds me steady until 5:00 AM. My diabetes team wants me to

eat an evening snack. In order to do that, I would have to take more

insulin. I am managing to maintain my weight and do not need the additional

calories. Why should I have a snack? Am I missing something?

I don't usually have an evening snack. They have given up harassing me on

the issue.

Marvin

Re: Regulating 's blood

sugar

> >>>>>>>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> :

> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> This is none of my business, but I am very curious how you

> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> are

> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> currently

> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> calculating the amount of humalog that you are taking with

> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> your

> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> meal.

> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I

> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> assume that you have a target blood sugar reading, let us

say

> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 100 -

> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> which

> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> would be 5.5 under your system. Therefore, you would take

> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> enough

> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> humalog

> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> to

> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> cover your current meal carbs. In addition, your humalog

> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> would

> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> be

> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> adjusted

> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> for a beginning reading higher or lower than your target

> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> blood

> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> sugar

> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> goal.

> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> This is the way I try to do it, sometimes more successfully

> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> than

> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> others.

> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I

> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> do not see a pattern like this and I am just curious how

you

> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> are

> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> approaching

> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> the issue. Again, this is none of my business, so feel

free

> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> to

> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> ignore

> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> my

> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> intrusion. I look forward to continuing to be educated.

> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Marvin

> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>>>>>>

[Guest guest]

The GI diet rfers to the glycemic index of foods. Some foods have a high

glycemic index and some a low glycemic index. This means that some carbs

go into your body quickly such as fruit, jiuices, flour, sugar and naything

else white and some carbs take longer to go into your body such as legumes,

whole wheat, bran etc.

Re: Regulating 's blood sugar

karen, what is this new g i diet? please explain further. thanks, karen

Re: Regulating 's blood sugar

>

>

>> :

>>

>>

>>

>> Do not beat up on your doctor too much. My internist initially gave me a

>> similar insulin regimen. I now determine my insulin dosage, in

> consultation

>> with my doctor, of course. The last time that I was in Jefferson in

>> Philadelphia, not a slouch hospital, I had a fight as the resident and GI

>> doctor wanted to use a static insulin dosage with a sliding scale

>> adjustment, just like your doctor. They do not have the time to teach

>> you

>> carb counting during an office visit, assuming they understand carb

> counting

>> in the first place. They give you a reasonable static dosage with an

>> sliding scale adjustment for diet and exercise variations and let it go

>> at

>> that. Unfortunately for those prescribing a static dose, you do not

>> normally eat the same amount of carbs at each meal. That is why it does

> not

>> work.

>>

>>

>>

>> You are going to have to learn carb counting on your own.

>>

>>

>>

>> I hope that you have started a carb log. I keep mine in Excel. I find

>> it

>> easier to use columns in Excel rather than in Word. My columns are

>> month,

>> day, meal, food, carbs, blood sugar reading, insulin dosage, and

>> comments.

>> My wife keeps other info in her blood sugar reading log. This log will

> show

>> you the impact of various insulin dosages against your diet. It is very

>> revealing and you may wish to adapt it to account for exercise and

> hormonal

>> issues. You also have data with which you can perform impact

> calculations.

>>

>>

>>

>> Good luck!

>>

>>

>>

>> Marvin

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

HARRY

pre lunch four point nine

Pre lunch b s four point nine

Humalog three

Carbs, one slice regular white bread fifteen, a bowl of cooked vegetables

and a few pieces of cut up chicken with it, believe twenty carbs

total

Ratio

One point six

karen

Re: Regulating 's blood sugar

>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>> :

>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>> This is none of my business, but I am very curious how you are

>>>>>>>>>>>>> currently

>>>>>>>>>>>>> calculating the amount of humalog that you are taking with

>>>>>>>>>>>>> your

>>>>>>>>>>>>> meal.

>>>>>>>>>>>>> I

>>>>>>>>>>>>> assume that you have a target blood sugar reading, let us say

>>>>>>>>>>>>> 100 -

>>>>>>>>>>>>> which

>>>>>>>>>>>>> would be 5.5 under your system. Therefore, you would take

>>>>>>>>>>>>> enough

>>>>>>>>>>>>> humalog

>>>>>>>>>>>>> to

>>>>>>>>>>>>> cover your current meal carbs. In addition, your humalog

>>>>>>>>>>>>> would

>>>>>>>>>>>>> be

>>>>>>>>>>>>> adjusted

>>>>>>>>>>>>> for a beginning reading higher or lower than your target blood

>>>>>>>>>>>>> sugar

>>>>>>>>>>>>> goal.

>>>>>>>>>>>>> This is the way I try to do it, sometimes more successfully

>>>>>>>>>>>>> than

>>>>>>>>>>>>> others.

>>>>>>>>>>>>> I

>>>>>>>>>>>>> do not see a pattern like this and I am just curious how you

>>>>>>>>>>>>> are

>>>>>>>>>>>>> approaching

>>>>>>>>>>>>> the issue. Again, this is none of my business, so feel free

>>>>>>>>>>>>> to

>>>>>>>>>>>>> ignore

>>>>>>>>>>>>> my

>>>>>>>>>>>>> intrusion. I look forward to continuing to be educated.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>> Marvin

>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>

[Guest guest]

Try dividing again. If you actually consumed 20 grams of carbs divide this

number by 3 units of Humalog, and you are a lot closer to 1:7 ratio than you

are to a 1:6 ratio. Actually the ratio is a 1:6.66 ratio.

After last night when you asked for a suggestion from me about some carb

intake at bedtime, I gave you my recommendation, but I haven't heard from

you as to what your fasting blood sugar was this morning. Let's not keep

secrets.

Re: Regulating 's blood sugar

>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> :

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This is none of my business, but I am very curious how you

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> are

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> currently

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> calculating the amount of humalog that you are taking with

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> your

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> meal.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> assume that you have a target blood sugar reading, let us say

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 100 -

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> which

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> would be 5.5 under your system. Therefore, you would take

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> enough

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> humalog

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cover your current meal carbs. In addition, your humalog

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> would

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> be

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> adjusted

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for a beginning reading higher or lower than your target

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> blood

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sugar

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> goal.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This is the way I try to do it, sometimes more successfully

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> than

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> others.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> do not see a pattern like this and I am just curious how you

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> are

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> approaching

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the issue. Again, this is none of my business, so feel free

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ignore

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> my

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> intrusion. I look forward to continuing to be educated.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Marvin

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>

[Guest guest]

harry

Two hours after lunch b s five point nine

If ideal bs at this time is six point six

I am minus point seven at this time

karen

Re: Regulating 's blood sugar

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> :

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This is none of my business, but I am very curious how you

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> are

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> currently

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> calculating the amount of humalog that you are taking with

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> your

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> meal.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> assume that you have a target blood sugar reading, let us

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> say

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 100 -

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> which

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> would be 5.5 under your system. Therefore, you would take

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> enough

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> humalog

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cover your current meal carbs. In addition, your humalog

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> would

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> be

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> adjusted

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for a beginning reading higher or lower than your target

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> blood

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sugar

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> goal.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This is the way I try to do it, sometimes more successfully

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> than

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> others.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> do not see a pattern like this and I am just curious how you

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> are

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> approaching

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the issue. Again, this is none of my business, so feel free

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ignore

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> my

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> intrusion. I look forward to continuing to be educated.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Marvin

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>

[Guest guest]

harry, sorry i thought i had sent this

Thursday pre breakfast seven point three

Humalog four

Carbvs two slices low carb bread, sixteen carbs with peanut butter two carb,

total eighteen carbs

karen

Re: Regulating 's blood sugar

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> :

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This is none of my business, but I am very curious how you

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> are

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> currently

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> calculating the amount of humalog that you are taking with

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> your

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> meal.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> assume that you have a target blood sugar reading, let us

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> say

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 100 -

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> which

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> would be 5.5 under your system. Therefore, you would take

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> enough

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> humalog

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cover your current meal carbs. In addition, your humalog

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> would

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> be

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> adjusted

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for a beginning reading higher or lower than your target

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> blood

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sugar

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> goal.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This is the way I try to do it, sometimes more successfully

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> than

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> others.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> do not see a pattern like this and I am just curious how you

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> are

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> approaching

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the issue. Again, this is none of my business, so feel free

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ignore

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> my

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> intrusion. I look forward to continuing to be educated.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Marvin

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>

[Guest guest]

Marvin,

You are mistaken about me recommending to take carbs to cover Lantus

insulin, but I can see how you can arrive at that conclusion. For some

people a long-acting insulin like Lantus or Humalin-N, I believe, causes a

drop in one's blood glucose level after injection. I am not saying it does

in all people. I am saying it does in some people. It just so happens that

I am one of those people that has aroung a 30 to 40 point drop in my blood

sugar level during the night after dosing with Lantus, an insulin that is

supposed to remain even in its action over a 24 hour span of time. I am

recommending the carb consumption to cover this drop in bs measurement.

seems to dose her Lantus at night mostly when she is running near the

low or very low normal range for a bs. She is also one of those folks that

is chronically waking up with a bs in the very high reading which is way

over the normal range, like an 8.0 moles or 10 moles or higher and so on.

Converting these mole readings into USA readings yields a fasting glucose

level of 144 and 180 respectively. Such high fasting glucose levels in the

morning indicates one thing for sure. It tells me that her bs drops so low

during the night with her dose of Lantus that it triggers the rebound

effect, which the body does involuntarily in order to keep itself alive.

This is definitely not a scenario one should have to endure, because it is

unhealthy and besides, it makes one feel bad. So the main purpose of my

recommendation is to help avoid the rebound effect, and that's it.

For instance suppose had a 30 to 40 point drop in her bs after dosing

Lantus. This would be a mole reading of 1.7 to 2.2. I am not saying that

her bs drops this many points, but I am speaking of a hypothetical

situation. If she doses Lantus with a bedtime bs measurement of 4.0 moles

and the drops happens, this would be enough to possibly trigger the rebound

effect with the least drop of the scenario I present above. Since it would

cause her bs to drop as low as a mole of 2.3. With the worse scenario

presented above it would still drop her bs to 1.8. Definitely at these

extremely low bs measurements, her body would be crying out for survival and

that is exactly what the brain signals the body to do, rebound from this

level or I will die! Now I do not know exactly how 's body is doing.

This is the reason I have cautioned her to dose Lantus at bedtime with her

bs readings in the high normal range or better yet a little higher. I would

rather see her drop her bs levels into the safe normal range rather than

risk triggering the extreme lows. I am sure she can learn to target a

fasting glucose level of 5.5 moles and reach it most of the time, once she

has mastered carb counting and insulin dosing. I aim for a fasting bs of 90

to 100 USA, and practically all of the time I attain it. I don't think

there is any magic involved in doing this, and all it takes is knowledge,

the ability to count and persistence through trial and error until blood

glucose mastery is achieved.

Re: Regulating 's blood

> sugar

>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>

>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>

>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> :

>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> This is none of my business, but I am very curious how you

>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> are

>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> currently

>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> calculating the amount of humalog that you are taking with

>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> your

>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> meal.

>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I

>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> assume that you have a target blood sugar reading, let us

> say

>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 100 -

>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> which

>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> would be 5.5 under your system. Therefore, you would take

>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> enough

>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> humalog

>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> to

>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> cover your current meal carbs. In addition, your humalog

>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> would

>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> be

>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> adjusted

>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> for a beginning reading higher or lower than your target

>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> blood

>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> sugar

>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> goal.

>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> This is the way I try to do it, sometimes more

>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> successfully

>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> than

>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> others.

>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I

>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> do not see a pattern like this and I am just curious how

> you

>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> are

>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> approaching

>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> the issue. Again, this is none of my business, so feel

> free

>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> to

>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> ignore

>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> my

>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> intrusion. I look forward to continuing to be educated.

>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Marvin

>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>> >>>>>>>>>>>>

>> >>>>>>>>>>>>

>> >>>>>>>>>>>>

>> >>>>>>>>>>>>

>> >>>>>>>>>>>>

>> >>>>>>>>>>>>

[Guest guest]

A fasting bs of 7.3 is not the best at all, but it is a lot better than 8.0,

10.0 or 12.1. It still makes me wonder exactly how many grams of carbs you

consumed at bedtime in order to counter any rebound effect. Next time count

those carbs and record them. Just don't take as many as you did last night

and so on until you know what you have to do in time to achieve your target

fasting bs goal. By the way Congratulations! Do you recognize the fact

that you did not have the rebound effect?

By the way Humalog 4 to 18 grams of carbs is a 1:4.5 ratio.

Re: Regulating 's blood

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sugar

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> :

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This is none of my business, but I am very curious how you

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> are

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> currently

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> calculating the amount of humalog that you are taking with

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> your

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> meal.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> assume that you have a target blood sugar reading, let us

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> say

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 100 -

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> which

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> would be 5.5 under your system. Therefore, you would take

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> enough

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> humalog

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cover your current meal carbs. In addition, your humalog

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> would

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> be

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> adjusted

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for a beginning reading higher or lower than your target

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> blood

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sugar

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> goal.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This is the way I try to do it, sometimes more successfully

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> than

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> others.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> do not see a pattern like this and I am just curious how

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> are

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> approaching

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the issue. Again, this is none of my business, so feel

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> free

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ignore

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> my

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> intrusion. I look forward to continuing to be educated.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Marvin

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

[Guest guest]

I believe you are beginning to catch on. Congratulations on this marvelous

two hour post prandial bs reading.

Re: Regulating 's blood sugar

> harry

>

>

> Two hours after lunch b s five point nine

>

> If ideal bs at this time is six point six

>

> I am minus point seven at this time

>

[Guest guest]

harry

Pre supper b s three point one

Humalog three

Carbs one slice french bread fifteen carbs, hamburg patty and spinach, total

twenty five carbs

karen

Re: Regulating 's blood sugar

>

>

>> harry

>>

>>

>> Two hours after lunch b s five point nine

>>

>> If ideal bs at this time is six point six

>>

>> I am minus point seven at this time

>>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

, I had spoken to a dietician in town about a year and half ago. I

asked that she give me information on tape or a c d and not literature and

she had nothing. she felt that I was doing everything o k. this was before I

knew of this group. they were still teaching the old system. I called the

Canadian diabetes association office and asked the manager for an address on

the net about carb counting. I am so new at this I have not been able to get

this yet. this is something I am working on.

but I am very interested in how much your reading dropped? could you

tell me more about this? many thanks,

Re: Regulating 's blood sugar

>

>

>> :

>>

>>

>>

>> Do not beat up on your doctor too much. My internist initially gave me a

>> similar insulin regimen. I now determine my insulin dosage, in

> consultation

>> with my doctor, of course. The last time that I was in Jefferson in

>> Philadelphia, not a slouch hospital, I had a fight as the resident and GI

>> doctor wanted to use a static insulin dosage with a sliding scale

>> adjustment, just like your doctor. They do not have the time to teach

>> you

>> carb counting during an office visit, assuming they understand carb

> counting

>> in the first place. They give you a reasonable static dosage with an

>> sliding scale adjustment for diet and exercise variations and let it go

>> at

>> that. Unfortunately for those prescribing a static dose, you do not

>> normally eat the same amount of carbs at each meal. That is why it does

> not

>> work.

>>

>>

>>

>> You are going to have to learn carb counting on your own.

>>

>>

>>

>> I hope that you have started a carb log. I keep mine in Excel. I find

>> it

>> easier to use columns in Excel rather than in Word. My columns are

>> month,

>> day, meal, food, carbs, blood sugar reading, insulin dosage, and

>> comments.

>> My wife keeps other info in her blood sugar reading log. This log will

> show

>> you the impact of various insulin dosages against your diet. It is very

>> revealing and you may wish to adapt it to account for exercise and

> hormonal

>> issues. You also have data with which you can perform impact

> calculations.

>>

>>

>>

>> Good luck!

>>

>>

>>

>> Marvin

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

That pre-supper bs is too low. Your bs is sure to rise with a Humalog 3 to

25 carb gram ratio, which is slightly more than a 1:8 ratio. The big

question is how many mole points does such a ratio raise your bs? We will

find out at bedtime. Of course your bs needed raising, and I believe you

will kick it way up there.

Re: Regulating 's blood sugar

>>

>>

>>> harry

>>>

>>>

>>> Two hours after lunch b s five point nine

>>>

>>> If ideal bs at this time is six point six

>>>

>>> I am minus point seven at this time

>>>

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>

[Guest guest]

Harry, my snack last night had been four soda crackers with a piece of

cheese between them to make two little sandwich snack. the reason I did two

was I had done one before and my reading was low the next morning and if I

do two I am high the next morning. just trying to fine tune it.

Re: Regulating 's blood

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sugar

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> :

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This is none of my business, but I am very curious how you

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> are

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> currently

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> calculating the amount of humalog that you are taking with

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> your

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> meal.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> assume that you have a target blood sugar reading, let us

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> say

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 100 -

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> which

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> would be 5.5 under your system. Therefore, you would take

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> enough

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> humalog

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cover your current meal carbs. In addition, your humalog

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> would

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> be

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> adjusted

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for a beginning reading higher or lower than your target

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> blood

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sugar

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> goal.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This is the way I try to do it, sometimes more

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> successfully

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> than

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> others.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> do not see a pattern like this and I am just curious how

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> are

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> approaching

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the issue. Again, this is none of my business, so feel

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> free

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ignore

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> my

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> intrusion. I look forward to continuing to be educated.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Marvin

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

[Guest guest]

Harry, I too was pleased with the reading. I knew I was a little low which

would mean I would be low before supper and I wanted to find out how low I

would go before my pre supper reading. I guess I found out, right. the only

way can do this is if I am going to be home. I would not take a chance if

I was going out.

Re: Regulating 's blood sugar

>

>

>> harry

>>

>>

>> Two hours after lunch b s five point nine

>>

>> If ideal bs at this time is six point six

>>

>> I am minus point seven at this time

>>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

harry, i thought i could afford to eat the bread since it was low. was i

wrong in doing this? karen

Re: Regulating 's blood sugar

>>>

>>>

>>>> harry

>>>>

>>>>

>>>> Two hours after lunch b s five point nine

>>>>

>>>> If ideal bs at this time is six point six

>>>>

>>>> I am minus point seven at this time

>>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>

[Guest guest]

No. You are not wrong. Just be sure to know the carb content of what you

eat, and soon you may finally figure out out how much a gram of carb raises

your bs. Then you will know just how many carbs to consume to raise your bs

to a specific bs reading or at least get pretty close to the target goal you

set, once you finally set a target goal.

Re: Regulating 's blood sugar

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>> harry

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>> Two hours after lunch b s five point nine

>>>>>

>>>>> If ideal bs at this time is six point six

>>>>>

>>>>> I am minus point seven at this time

>>>>>

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>

[Guest guest]

Good going. Fine tuning it is what it is all about. Now let's see here.

Four soda crackers at 2 carb grams each is 8 grams of carbs. This is about

three or four more grams of carbs than I recommended, but at least you see

what it does.

Re: Regulating 's blood

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sugar

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> :

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This is none of my business, but I am very curious how

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> are

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> currently

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> calculating the amount of humalog that you are taking

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> your

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> meal.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> assume that you have a target blood sugar reading, let us

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> say

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 100 -

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> which

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> would be 5.5 under your system. Therefore, you would

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> take

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> enough

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> humalog

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cover your current meal carbs. In addition, your humalog

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> would

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> be

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> adjusted

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for a beginning reading higher or lower than your target

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> blood

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sugar

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> goal.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This is the way I try to do it, sometimes more

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> successfully

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> than

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> others.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> do not see a pattern like this and I am just curious how

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> are

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> approaching

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the issue. Again, this is none of my business, so feel

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> free

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ignore

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> my

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> intrusion. I look forward to continuing to be educated.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Marvin

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

[Guest guest]

Today the doc who is with me in the diabetic education class (he is a

cardiologist by trade who is a fairly recent type 2 diabetic) explained that

Lantus only works when your body becomes acidic. This occurs when your

blood sugar levels go up, so, theoritacally,if goes to bed with a

normal glucose level, the Lantus will not kick in until her glucose level

goes up iin the morning. If she becomes low then, whe is getting too much

insulin at night. If she is getting up with high blood sugars, then she

needs more Lantus at night.

Re: Regulating 's blood sugar

Harry:

If I understand correctly, is being instructed to take Lancet insulin

and then eat carbs in order to cover that insulin.

I am not familiar with Lancet insulin, but I have reservations with having

to consume carbs in order to cover an insulin dose. We should take insulin

to cover our food, not the reverse.

I take humalin n and humalin r. I take 5 units of humalin n at 9:00 PM,

which usually holds me steady until 5:00 AM. My diabetes team wants me to

eat an evening snack. In order to do that, I would have to take more

insulin. I am managing to maintain my weight and do not need the additional

calories. Why should I have a snack? Am I missing something?

I don't usually have an evening snack. They have given up harassing me on

the issue.

Marvin

Re: Regulating 's blood

sugar

> >>>>>>>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> :

> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> This is none of my business, but I am very curious how you

> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> are

> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> currently

> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> calculating the amount of humalog that you are taking with

> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> your

> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> meal.

> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I

> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> assume that you have a target blood sugar reading, let us

say

> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 100 -

> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> which

> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> would be 5.5 under your system. Therefore, you would take

> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> enough

> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> humalog

> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> to

> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> cover your current meal carbs. In addition, your humalog

> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> would

> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> be

> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> adjusted

> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> for a beginning reading higher or lower than your target

> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> blood

> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> sugar

> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> goal.

> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> This is the way I try to do it, sometimes more successfully

> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> than

> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> others.

> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I

> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> do not see a pattern like this and I am just curious how

you

> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> are

> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> approaching

> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> the issue. Again, this is none of my business, so feel

free

> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> to

> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> ignore

> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> my

> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> intrusion. I look forward to continuing to be educated.

> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Marvin

> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>>>>>>

[Guest guest]

harry, i just did my evening b s one hour early and it was three point four

took one watermelon glucogon

karen

Re: Regulating 's blood

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sugar

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> :

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This is none of my business, but I am very curious how you

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> are

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> currently

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> calculating the amount of humalog that you are taking with

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> your

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> meal.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> assume that you have a target blood sugar reading, let us

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> say

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 100 -

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> which

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> would be 5.5 under your system. Therefore, you would take

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> enough

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> humalog

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cover your current meal carbs. In addition, your humalog

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> would

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> be

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> adjusted

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for a beginning reading higher or lower than your target

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> blood

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sugar

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> goal.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This is the way I try to do it, sometimes more

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> successfully

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> than

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> others.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> do not see a pattern like this and I am just curious how

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> are

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> approaching

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the issue. Again, this is none of my business, so feel

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> free

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ignore

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> my

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> intrusion. I look forward to continuing to be educated.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Marvin

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

[Guest guest]

Good. The glucose tablet I guess will raise your bs almost 2.0 mole points.

ly, I don't buy the doctor's advice about this acidity thing. I would

recommend taking another 3 or 4 grams of carbs, preferably slow acting carbs

to push the bs up to around 7.0 to 7.5 mole points before dosing Lantus

tonight. Ckount those carbs and record them. Then dose Lantus and let's

see what your fasting bs is tomorrow. If you follow my advice, I will bet

you will be in the normal range or pretty close to it like this morning.

Re: Regulating 's blood

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sugar

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> :

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This is none of my business, but I am very curious how

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> are

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> currently

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> calculating the amount of humalog that you are taking

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> your

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> meal.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> assume that you have a target blood sugar reading, let us

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> say

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 100 -

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> which

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> would be 5.5 under your system. Therefore, you would

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> take

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> enough

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> humalog

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cover your current meal carbs. In addition, your humalog

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> would

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> be

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> adjusted

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for a beginning reading higher or lower than your target

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> blood

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sugar

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> goal.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This is the way I try to do it, sometimes more

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> successfully

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> than

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> others.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> do not see a pattern like this and I am just curious how

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> are

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> approaching

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the issue. Again, this is none of my business, so feel

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> free

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ignore

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> my

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> intrusion. I look forward to continuing to be educated.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Marvin

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

[Guest guest]

Yes, I hear this theoretically part. I don't believe we are dealing with

theory here, but reality. I prefer practicality to theory.

Re: Regulating 's blood

> sugar

>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>

>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>

>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> :

>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> This is none of my business, but I am very curious how you

>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> are

>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> currently

>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> calculating the amount of humalog that you are taking with

>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> your

>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> meal.

>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I

>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> assume that you have a target blood sugar reading, let us

> say

>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 100 -

>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> which

>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> would be 5.5 under your system. Therefore, you would take

>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> enough

>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> humalog

>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> to

>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> cover your current meal carbs. In addition, your humalog

>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> would

>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> be

>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> adjusted

>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> for a beginning reading higher or lower than your target

>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> blood

>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> sugar

>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> goal.

>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> This is the way I try to do it, sometimes more

>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> successfully

>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> than

>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> others.

>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I

>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> do not see a pattern like this and I am just curious how

> you

>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> are

>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> approaching

>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> the issue. Again, this is none of my business, so feel

> free

>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> to

>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> ignore

>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> my

>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> intrusion. I look forward to continuing to be educated.

>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Marvin

>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>> >>>>>>>>>>>>

>> >>>>>>>>>>>>

>> >>>>>>>>>>>>

>> >>>>>>>>>>>>

>> >>>>>>>>>>>>

>> >>>>>>>>>>>>

[Guest guest]

Harry, what would you suggest for slow acting carbs? would one cheese

cracker sandwich be o k?

Re: Regulating 's blood

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sugar

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> :

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This is none of my business, but I am very curious how

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> are

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> currently

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> calculating the amount of humalog that you are taking

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> your

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> meal.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> assume that you have a target blood sugar reading, let

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> us

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> say

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 100 -

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> which

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> would be 5.5 under your system. Therefore, you would

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> take

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> enough

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> humalog

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cover your current meal carbs. In addition, your

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> humalog

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> would

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> be

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> adjusted

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for a beginning reading higher or lower than your target

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> blood

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sugar

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> goal.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This is the way I try to do it, sometimes more

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> successfully

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> than

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> others.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> do not see a pattern like this and I am just curious how

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> are

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> approaching

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the issue. Again, this is none of my business, so feel

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> free

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ignore

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> my

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> intrusion. I look forward to continuing to be educated.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Marvin

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

[Guest guest]

I think that would be okay, even though it is not exactly slow acting carbs,

but they are paired with a dairy product with some fat in it that will slow

down the rise in bs somewhat. Go for it and count tkhose carbs and record

them. Test in the mornig and let us know how it goes.

Re: Regulating 's blood

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sugar

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> :

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This is none of my business, but I am very curious how

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> are

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> currently

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> calculating the amount of humalog that you are taking

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> your

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> meal.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> assume that you have a target blood sugar reading, let

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> us

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> say

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 100 -

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> which

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> would be 5.5 under your system. Therefore, you would

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> take

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> enough

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> humalog

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cover your current meal carbs. In addition, your

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> humalog

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> would

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> be

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> adjusted

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for a beginning reading higher or lower than your

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> target

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> blood

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sugar

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> goal.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This is the way I try to do it, sometimes more

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> successfully

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> than

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> others.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> do not see a pattern like this and I am just curious

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> how

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> are

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> approaching

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the issue. Again, this is none of my business, so feel

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> free

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ignore

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> my

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> intrusion. I look forward to continuing to be

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> educated.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Marvin

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>