Vitamins

[Guest guest]

Do you use Ester C? What about echinacea? The sites I looked at did not

reccomenend anything hardly for kids under 4! Thanks.

Bambi

http://groups.msn.com/Homeschoolmoms.com

vitamins

What sort of multi vitamins do you guys give to your kids? How many

milligrams of Vitamin C do you give? Where do you find chewable vitamins like

zinc?

Have a great day :) :) :)

Bambi

[Guest guest]

Thanks. What is Sodium Ascorbate?

Vitamin C that is a powdered form. You have to order it.

I've seen some of the better tasting chewables like Rhino zinc and Chewy Bears

(Nutrition Now i thinki) sometimes at Jewel/Osco but if you don't live near a

natural food store your better off just ordering them online.

Jen L.

[Guest guest]

My kids get 1000mg of Vit C (ascorbic acid form) a day, as well as a

multivitamin for teens (they're 12 and 13) That's it.

Kay

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What sort of multi vitamins do you guys give to your kids? How many milligrams

of Vitamin C do you give? Where do you find chewable vitamins like zinc?

Have a great day :) :) :)

Bambi

[Guest guest]

Thanks. What is Sodium Ascorbate? Yes I really want to boost this winter,

especially with a new baby coming in the next month! I don't give calicum to the

kids but have always wondered if I should. I have always shopped Walmart for

vitamins, never checked the net so I did not know where to get chewable forms. I

especially want to give Zinc, that helps prevent them from getting sick while C

gets them through it quicker.

Bambi

http://groups.msn.com/Homeschoolmoms

Re: vitamins

Do you use Ester C? What about echinacea? The sites I looked at did not

reccomenend anything hardly for kids under 4! Thanks.

Bambi

No I use Sodium Ascorbate from Vitaglo

http://store./vitaglo/760.html. Others on this list have posed studies

on how Calcium Ascorbate could be harmful and I know they have posted how much

to take depending on body weight. I lost the info in my computer switch over

but you could search the archives for this list or maybe someone else has it on

hand. Most of the vitamin companies won't publish over the FDA regulations for

vitamins for little ones. It doesn't mean that you can't exceed many of the

doses esp. during an illness (things like vit. C, Vit. A. zinc etc.) Hopefully

more people more knowlegdeable than me will respond.

L.

[Guest guest]

What about echinacea during pregnancy and other vitamins such as zinc and C? I

heard Omega 3 is suppose to be great for developing fetuses. How much is too

much?

Bambi

http://groups.msn.com/Homeschoolmoms

vitamins

What sort of multi vitamins do you guys give to your kids? How many

milligrams of Vitamin C do you give? Where do you find chewable vitamins like

zinc?

Have a great day :) :) :)

Bambi

[Guest guest]

> ya know what? my vitamins are giving me heartburn from hell. for

the

> time being, im going back on flinstones chewables. they dont have

> iron though. anyone know of a good iron vitamin that is chewable?

i

> know iron is also hard on the tummy. even preop, vitamins made me

> sick but i know i have to take them so any advice is much

> appreciated.

>

> thanks guys vicki

~~~~~~~~~~~~

Vicki,

If you don't have a costco near you and you have a kmart,go there

ask the pharmish[sp]to order you a bottle of adek vitiams. That is

what I did here at our kmart and the cost was 20.85 they are

chewable and taste like vitiam C to me...They come 60 pills to a

bottle,so that and calisum is now what I am on...

Don't ask me any questions about them,I just know that I got a

sample from dr.k and I feel better knowing that these are

digested better...

God bless

Pat

[Guest guest]

LOL, I love Spiderman Gummi vitamins or Sundown Kids Gummi worms!

These are kind of sweet and sour and really good! (Walmart has them)

Also Viactive...all flavors, but the Walmart brand is too soft,

chewey,and gooey for me! Just had my labs drawn last week for my one

year follow up (Hey Marta, I got a call to come back and redraw blood

for those ones that needed special handling, DUHHHHH...will be there

Monday it looks like!) so I don't yet know how my labs look! Will let

you know when I do! - Vicki, Centrum makes an adult orange chewable

that is much better thean the flintstones ones if you want to try

it!!

Cindee

(sniff...sniff..wondering if ANYONE noticed my size 10 post!)

In , " vicki " <lghthousegrl@c...>

wrote:

> hi all-

>

> well im still on flinstones because centrum makes me sick still but

> im also taking viactive 3x a day. can you guys tell me what all you

> take?? are you only taking calcium plus 1 multi vitamin. im

> listening to some people on another list who take like 12 vits a

> day. i know we dont need that much but im just wondering what you

> guys take and how your labs have been from it,

>

> thank you vicki

[Guest guest]

> (sniff...sniff..wondering if ANYONE noticed my size 10 post!)

Of course I noticed it....I am just worried your going to soon weigh

less than me so I am snubbing you...lol. No doll, actually I read

your post with a baby on my lap and a two year old crawling up my

body into my brain...If I don't respond at the time I read the post

I rarely get back to it.

So here goes a belated Woooooooo HOOOOOOO!!!! A friggin size 10!!!!

Don't it just blow your mind!!!!

Congrats!!!

Jo

[Guest guest]

Just had my labs drawn last week for my one

> year follow up (Hey Marta, I got a call to come back and redraw

blood

> for those ones that needed special handling, DUHHHHH...will be

there

> Monday it looks like!)

Pretty funny, huh? Especially since I was right there saying how I

had to get three draws to get it right, huh? LOL!

Marta

[Guest guest]

Just had my labs drawn last week for my one

> year follow up (Hey Marta, I got a call to come back and redraw

blood

> for those ones that needed special handling, DUHHHHH...will be

there

> Monday it looks like!)

Pretty funny, huh? Especially since I was right there saying how I

had to get three draws to get it right, huh? LOL!

Marta

[Guest guest]

,

There is a contraindication if the multivitamin contains iron. Iron interferes w/ the absorption of Ca+. One option is to use a MV w/o Fe, and take it at the same time as the Ca+. If it is a menstruating woman, and additional Fe supplement should be taken anyway, and can be taken at a separate time of day.

Sally Hara, MS, RD, CDEPrivate PracticeKirkland, WAsallyhara@...

-----Original Message-----From: MacKechnie [mailto:misook_27@...]Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2004 12:06 PM Subject: vitaminsI recommend taking a chewable mvi once in the am and in the pm w/ food. However I also rec taking calcium once in the am and in the pm. Does anyone know if it is contraindicated to take them together? Thanks! L. MacKechnie, RDBariatric Dietitianmackjs@... Saint Agnes Medical CenterFresno, CA voicemail: 559-450-5499mobile: 559-301-1736

[Guest guest]

I'm surprised her PCP is even giving her suggestions. We have a huge

problem with the PCP's not wanting to help these patients even with

common problems like colds, DM care, etc. because they have had the

bypass. I'm not sure if they just don't know enough about the procedure

to give advice or they are afraid of something......anyone else have

this issue with their patients?

>>> hcopeland@... 01/15/04 10:53AM >>>

It seems like recommendations are so varied. I had a patient whose PCP

recommended she leave her iron supplement off. He said he would watch

her

labs & if it got too low he would then ask her to intiate iron

supplementation. I'm curious to see what others think about that. It

seems you would want to avoid the problem instead of treating it later.

Do

most of you recommend iron for ALL menstruating women and pt's with hx

of

anemia?

He also told her to continue sublingual B12 but to only take her

1000mcg

dose qweek. He told her he would increase it if there were signs of

defficiency. Does anyone recommend 100mcg just qweekly? Thanks for any

feedback. I really learn a lot from this group.

Hunter Copeland, RD LD

[Guest guest]

Very common you will see PCP want to treat a problem instead of

preventing the problem from occurring in the first place. I usually

advise to take multivitamin with iron and zinc which my surgeon agrees

as well. We will supplement additional ferrous gluconate or fumarate if

we see declined iron levels. The main problem is most doctors will

recommend most to avoid iron in supplements as you age (GB patient or

not). Unfortunately, most of these doctors do not understand the

malabsorption component of the bypass surgery. There are enough

scientific studies to back up your recommendations. I would contact or

fax the PCP with your concerns and let them know you will closely

monitor their labs (checking ferritin levels) since it is usually part

of the protocol. I have worked with this population for 2 years and I

check all labs after the follow ups visit and I've never run into

problems these pt's having high iron levels. The trend is the complete

opposite, iron is low with declining MCV/MCH levels beginning 3 weeks

after surgery.

Our protocol for sublingual B12 1000mcg:

-only once a week for prevention

-3 times per week is pt is a vegetarian or unable to tolerate

meats and diary products

- qd if B12 <240.

Encourage patients to hold their vitamins the morning they come into

clinic before they have their labs drawn. I've found many normal B12

levels but low MCV/MCH levels. I recommend to recheck labs again and

some have come back as low as 140.

The rule my surgeon and I tend to follow is prevention not treatment. GB

patients have a more difficult time playing caught up from significant

problems especially protein deficient and nutritional deficiencies.

Beth Whelan, MS,RD,LD

Outpatient Dietitian

Harbin Clinic

office: (706) 378-8163

fax: (706) 238-8037

 

Re: Vitamins

I'm surprised her PCP is even giving her suggestions. We have a huge

problem with the PCP's not wanting to help these patients even with

common problems like colds, DM care, etc. because they have had the

bypass. I'm not sure if they just don't know enough about the procedure

to give advice or they are afraid of something......anyone else have

this issue with their patients?

>>> hcopeland@... 01/15/04 10:53AM >>>

It seems like recommendations are so varied. I had a patient whose PCP

recommended she leave her iron supplement off. He said he would watch

her

labs & if it got too low he would then ask her to intiate iron

supplementation. I'm curious to see what others think about that. It

seems you would want to avoid the problem instead of treating it later.

Do

most of you recommend iron for ALL menstruating women and pt's with hx

of

anemia?

He also told her to continue sublingual B12 but to only take her

1000mcg

dose qweek. He told her he would increase it if there were signs of

defficiency. Does anyone recommend 100mcg just qweekly? Thanks for any

feedback. I really learn a lot from this group.

Hunter Copeland, RD LD

[Guest guest]

Kirkman labs has capsules available for children. The link is below and their

site is www.kirkmanlabs.com in case the link does not work.

http://www.kirkmanlabs.com/products/multivitamins/children/childrenMV299_120.htm\

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Original Message -----

From: Rothweiler

Sent: Sunday, April 04, 2004 10:45 PM

Subject: [ ] Vitamins

Hi everyone

I have a question about vitamins. Lately, I've been having trouble getting my

6 year old son to take any type of liquid or chewable anything but I have been

able to get him to swallow small pills. I can no longer get him to take any

type of chewable vitamin. I've tried many different brands with no luck. Does

anyone know of a small multi-vitamin made for children that can be swallowed?

I've gone to a bunch of different stores but all the swallowable (is that a

word?) one's are for adults only. It would have to be a pretty small one but

there must be one out there somewhere.... Thanks in advance.

in MA

kdr2@...

[Guest guest]

The mutivitamin I am taking has no Selenium or Vit E in it at all,

because it is a specially prepared vitamin that my husband takes

(they gave him extra for his wife). He is a part of a study for

prostate cancer (yes, he's fine, and I expect will remain fine, as he

gets exams on a regular schedule through this study). It's heavy on

the B vitamins, and except for the Selenium and Vit E (for which he

takes pills from two other bottles that may be Vit E and/or Selenium,

or may be a placebo) seems to be just the ticket for my needs. So I

simply add 100 mg selenium and 400 Vit E, plus extra C, and a zinc

tablet.

Gail

> Yay! Don't take too much selenium though, the only one you can

safely

> " OD " on is Vitamin C, the worst that will happen is diarrhea.

>

> I take 100mg a day Selenium, but up to 200mg is considered safe.

More

> than that is implicated even in helping develop Type II Diabetes.

>

>

> Jan

>

>

[Guest guest]

That sounds like it is gonna work great.

Jan

& Gail on wrote:

>The mutivitamin I am taking has no Selenium or Vit E in it at all,

>because it is a specially prepared vitamin that my husband takes

>(they gave him extra for his wife). He is a part of a study for

>prostate cancer (yes, he's fine, and I expect will remain fine, as he

>gets exams on a regular schedule through this study). It's heavy on

>the B vitamins, and except for the Selenium and Vit E (for which he

>takes pills from two other bottles that may be Vit E and/or Selenium,

>or may be a placebo) seems to be just the ticket for my needs. So I

>simply add 100 mg selenium and 400 Vit E, plus extra C, and a zinc

>tablet.

>Gail

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

What's itp?

--- bandit5125 <bandit5125@...> wrote:

> Does anyone take vitamins to slow down the

> deterioation from the ra?

> I also have itp so am not on any meds now except

> naproxen for pain

> as needed. But am noticing deterioration in the

> finger joints. So

> was wondering if anyone took anything natural or

> vitamins to slow it

> down. I really don't want to go on meds again

> because I don't want

> to aggrevate the itp, which I feel I know have under

> some kind of

> control.

>

> Thanks for your help!

>

>

[Guest guest]

I highly recommend Brainchild. You can read all about their

products/ingredients at www.brainchildnutritionals.com

> My 2.6 year old son is on AFP, ZP, and NF. We limit him from some

> obvious " offenders " (foods like milk, cheese, high phenolic foods

> and try to keep his gluten consumption under control). He is a very

> picky eater - always has been - and he really eats very little

> meats, veggies, and now with our phenol awareness, fruits too. As a

> real young guy, we gave him Poly Vi Sol for extra nutrition, but I

> feel uncomfortable giving him anything without asking your advice.

I

> have been feeling that while I am trying to provide him with the

> healthiest diet for him, nutritionally he can't be getting what he

> needs! We have not had an appointment with a DAN! doc and have not

> yet had our appt. at Pfeiffer. Any suggestions about which

> vitamins/minerals would be good for him(and possibly the brands)

and

> will not affect him negatively. Thank you very much!

>

>

[Guest guest]

Thank you Alice. Good advice, so will stay away from it. I only take Vitamin

C, as I catch cold frequently due to doing jogging uphill daily. Is Vitamin C

a blood thinner, as well?? Moses

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 9/23/2004 10:34:22 AM Alaskan Daylight Time,

justagram@... writes:

> Not to my knowledge, Moses. Garlic supplements are blood thinners

> and Vitamin E. I'm not familiar with any others but when it doubt,

> check with the doctor.

>

> Alice

>

here's a list I was given about what to avoid before surgery:

Do not take Aspirin or Blood Thinning Medications for two weeks Prior to

Surgery.  This includes Ibuprofen, Motrin, Vitamin E, Echinacea, St 's Wort,

Ginseng, Ephedra,  Cayenne, Feverfew, Garlic, Valarian, Kava-Kava, Ginko,

Licorice, Ginger, SawPalmetto or Goldenseal.

Pam

[Guest guest]

Actually, Vitamin E is a blood thinner as is anything that is an asprin product.

Just prior to surgery, most doctors ask you to stop taking these so you may want

to check with your doctor about this, Moses. Your surgery is getting close.

<smile>

Alice

>

> I have mentioned earlier that I have had my HA adjusted to get higher

volume.

> I am hearing some,mostly garbled. However we're getting closer and closer

to

> the CI implant on Oct. 28. My tinnitus is bothering me continuously. Would

> Vitamin E help, some?? Moses

>

>

[Guest guest]

Not to my knowledge, Moses. Garlic supplements are blood thinners

and Vitamin E. I'm not familiar with any others but when it doubt,

check with the doctor.

Alice

> Thank you Alice. Good advice, so will stay away from it. I only

take Vitamin

> C, as I catch cold frequently due to doing jogging uphill daily.

Is Vitamin C

> a blood thinner, as well?? Moses

>

>

>]

[Guest guest]

Moses:

I realize that I am a bit late in responding to this but I want to share

with you what happened to my wife when she suddenly suffered vertigo and

severe tinnitus about eight years ago...and went completely Deaf. She, like

you, tried everything including mega vitamins. A friend of ours through a

friend of hers was also suffering from tinnutus had suggested that Evie (My

qidw) take vitamins. It had worked for our friend's friend but our friend

did not fare so well and opted for CI. Evie had the doctor's permission and

tried the vitamins out but it was absolutely to no avail and finally went

under the knife the knife eight months after suffering vertigo while talking

on the phone with her sister. She was born with moderate to severe (more on

the severe side) and was about severe to profound at the time of the first

vertigo attack.

Evie had a difficult recovery with balance, dizziness and slight tinnutus.

She's doing absolutely fabulously now.

On a somewhat different note, Evie was a lesson for me having been a CI

receipt for the past 20 years now. I was born profoundly Deaf and never

wore hearing aids to a great extent. I had no problems with my two

surgeries. She was the one who explained how the mapping should be, and

after learning form her, my next mapping was so dramatically different that

I was able to wear my CI more and more ... and now I have the 3G, I can have

it on in noisy places especially restaurants that I couldn't do for over

then years.

Jeff

VITAMINS

>

> I have mentioned earlier that I have had my HA adjusted to get higher

volume.

> I am hearing some,mostly garbled. However we're getting closer and closer

to

> the CI implant on Oct. 28. My tinnitus is bothering me continuously. Would

> Vitamin E help, some?? Moses

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Jeff, many thanks for your reply. For now I am only taking vitamin C, which I

need since I do lot of jogging uphill, and catching cold frequently. Will see

after my implant on October28th. regards, moses

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 9/26/2004 7:30:51 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

chinamoses@... writes:

Jeff, many thanks for your reply. For now I am only taking vitamin C, which

I

need since I do lot of jogging uphill, and catching cold frequently. Will

see

after my implant on October28th. regards, moses

And also I hope you've gotten your Pneumococcus vaccine to prevent

meningitis, which is a higher risk for people getting CIs?

Chris