Valtrex

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Hi Gillian

Sorry to leap in here just asking if Mandi replies is there a palatable Caprylic

acid she knows that's mixable/disguisable of because I'd like to try it, most

ones I've tried are just impossible. It would probably be OK if J could swallow

pills.

Breakspear are funny about prescribing Diflucan, feel we need it, so was Magda,

they don't like two systematic drugs in the body at the same time (whereas Stan

K swears by it)

Good Luck

Eileen

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> >> Thanks for that Mandi, what antifungal would you use to keep the yeast

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In a message dated 04/06/2009 20:49:23 GMT Daylight Time, editorial.hillbury@... writes:

Hi Eileen I’ve heard Caprylic acid is yuch. Someone told me pineapple juice is a good way to disguise it.

>> used to use Kaprycidin-A which was a fav of JmcC, I'll mail her and ask because I am sure Jack doesn't swallow caps

Mandi x

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Hi Eileen I’ve heard Caprylic acid is yuch. Someone told me pineapple juice is a good way to disguise it.

Gillian

On 4/6/09 15:44, " eileen_mclennan " <biomed@...> wrote:

Hi Gillian

Sorry to leap in here just asking if Mandi replies is there a palatable Caprylic acid she knows that's mixable/disguisable of because I'd like to try it, most ones I've tried are just impossible. It would probably be OK if J could swallow pills.

Breakspear are funny about prescribing Diflucan, feel we need it, so was Magda, they don't like two systematic drugs in the body at the same time (whereas Stan K swears by it)

Good Luck

Eileen

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> > editorial.hillbury@... writes:

> >> Thanks for that Mandi, what antifungal would you use to keep the yeast under

> >> control. Reading Kurtz’s site and it talks about antivirals stirring up

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> >>> >>I was using Diflucan, started a week before even though I thought he was

> >>> clean, no die off so I musta been right on that one

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Valtrex 500 mg . . . it has helped me more than any supp or med . .well except

maybe Thyroid meds and IV Iron . . .I was sick for 22 years!

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> Sue, what dose of Valtrex are you taking? Back channel if you prefer.

> I can't exercise at all or I pay severely for days, even if I do just a

> bit of walking. Envy you, I do.

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before exercise and a large dosage reduced the symptoms consideably]

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Thanks, Sue! That's a small dose compared to others I've read. Dr.

Lerner prescribes much higher doses - I think I have the right doctor in

mind. But if this dose keeps the viral action in check, I would be so

pleased because my doctor does prescribe that dose for controlling cold

sores. I get massive cold sore outbreaks on my lips and inside of my

nostrils without it. I stopped taking it for awhile, but started up

again after another outbreak.

Were you always able to exercise?

I was diagnosed with 's 18 months ago and the steroids have made

most of my symptoms worse. I am waiting news on the XMRV/cortisol

receptor information and am very curious about which anti-virals will

prove effective.

Re note from moderator: I find it a bit confusing - are you saying that

a large dose of flushing niacin reduced post exercise symptoms?

Thanks,

F.

Re: Valtrex

Valtrex 500 mg . . . it has helped me more than any supp or med .

..well except maybe Thyroid meds and IV Iron . . .I was sick for 22

years!

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> Sue, what dose of Valtrex are you taking? Back channel if you prefer.

> I can't exercise at all or I pay severely for days, even if I do just

a

> bit of walking. Envy you, I do.

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niacin before exercise and a large dosage reduced the symptoms

consideably]

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wow., you are lucky! i took 4 g/day of valtrex for 2 1/2 yrs and it didn't

really do much for me!

From: Sue Malerbi <morabshadow@...>

Subject: Re: Valtrex

Received: Saturday, December 5, 2009, 12:03 PM

 

Valtrex 500 mg . . . it has helped me more than any supp or med . .well except

maybe Thyroid meds and IV Iron . . .I was sick for 22 years!

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> Sue, what dose of Valtrex are you taking? Back channel if you prefer.

> I can't exercise at all or I pay severely for days, even if I do just a

> bit of walking. Envy you, I do.

> F.

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> [Moderator: re exercise: I recall taking a low dosage of flushing niacin

before exercise and a large dosage reduced the symptoms consideably]

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Hi There,

There are different dosages depending on the problem.

500mg Valtrex is a common dose for daily maintenance. Higher doses at longer

term can cause organ damage so regular blood work is important. I have heard of

1 gram per day as suppressive dose but I recommend following your doctor's

recommendations.

3 grams per day for 7 days is a common shingles dose.

Regular acyclovir is normally given in higher doses. I am currently on 1200mg

of acyclovir but will be starting 500mg Valtrex next week.

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" 2.1 Adult Dosing Recommendations

Cold Sores (Herpes Labialis): The recommended dosage of VALTREX for treatment of

cold sores is 2 grams twice daily for 1 day taken 12 hours apart. Therapy should

be initiated at the earliest symptom of a cold sore (e.g., tingling, itching, or

burning).

Genital Herpes: Initial Episode: The recommended dosage of VALTREX for treatment

of initial genital herpes is 1 gram twice daily for 10 days. Therapy was most

effective when administered within 48 hours of the onset of signs and symptoms.

Recurrent Episodes: The recommended dosage of VALTREX for treatment of

recurrent genital herpes is 500 mg twice daily for 3 days. Initiate treatment at

the first sign or symptom of an episode.

Suppressive Therapy: The recommended dosage of VALTREX for chronic

suppressive therapy of recurrent genital herpes is 1 gram once daily in patients

with normal immune function. In patients with a history of 9 or fewer

recurrences per year, an alternative dose is 500 mg once daily.

In HIV-infected patients with a CD4+ cell count & #8805;100 cells/mm3, the

recommended dosage of VALTREX for chronic suppressive therapy of recurrent

genital herpes is 500 mg twice daily.

Reduction of Transmission: The recommended dosage of VALTREX for reduction of

transmission of genital herpes in patients with a history of 9 or fewer

recurrences per year is 500 mg once daily for the source partner.

Herpes Zoster: The recommended dosage of VALTREX for treatment of herpes zoster

is 1 gram 3 times daily for 7 days. Therapy should be initiated at the earliest

sign or symptom of herpes zoster and is most effective when started within 48

hours of the onset of rash. "

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Here is the .pdf from Glaxo where this information on dosages for different

populations (children, immune compromised, etc) comes from.

http://us.gsk.com/products/assets/us_valtrex.pdf

I also found it interesting that they show valine (OTC amino acid - typically

found in Branched Chain Amino Acids) and Probenicid, a prescription drug used

for digestive issues prolonged the life span of Valtrex in the body. There are

various graphs.

Valtrex is a combination of valine and acyclovir that perhaps can be duplicated

for those that do cannot get Valtrex. (acyclovir is generic and much less

expensive)

I have also been told that acyclovir has a very limited use and only works on

the herpes family of viruses and is not effective on other types.

HTH,

Marti

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Sorry the Valtrex didn't make a difference . I am nowhere near 100% . .I am at

about 75 -85% functioning . .i do still have down days when I really over do it.

I was not able to exercise for years! Just the past couple . .but very slowly .

..anti-virals are very helpful for me! Looking forward to my XMRV results . .I

got them free through my doc in No CA . .the Santa area. I have neen a

patient of his for 9 years and he put me in the study.

Sue T

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My child has been on Valtrex for four weeks. He seemed more alert and had

cognitive gains the first few weeks. However, behaviors have slowly but surely

regressed. We will be going back to the doctor in two weeks. Hopefully starting

an anti-fungal. Is this what some of you experienced in the beginning?

LH

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My son had some improvements initially on Valtrex but developed major

attitude problems and ugly behavior after the first few weeks. Dr. Goldberg

switched him to Famvir for about a year and then he was able to go back to

Valtrex without the problems.

Gaylen

In a message dated 8/23/2010 11:06:26 P.M. Central Daylight Time,

lrkhmomx3@... writes:

My child has been on Valtrex for four weeks. He seemed more alert and had

cognitive gains the first few weeks. However, behaviors have slowly but

surely regressed. We will be going back to the doctor in two weeks. Hopefully

starting an anti-fungal. Is this what some of you experienced in the

beginning?

LH

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LH,

We are around two months of Valtrex & saw some gains initially but we think

it plateaus pretty soon. I don't think we have regressed but there are some

other symptoms like verbal stimming etc that have gone up. A azole anti-fungal

was needed to keep the yeast down. We switched from Diflucan to Ketcanzole that

seems to have worked.

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From: " Googahly@... " <Googahly@...>

Sent: Mon, August 23, 2010 9:13:42 PM

Subject: Re: Valtrex

My son had some improvements initially on Valtrex but developed major

attitude problems and ugly behavior after the first few weeks. Dr. Goldberg

switched him to Famvir for about a year and then he was able to go back to

Valtrex without the problems.

Gaylen

In a message dated 8/23/2010 11:06:26 P.M. Central Daylight Time,

lrkhmomx3@... writes:

My child has been on Valtrex for four weeks. He seemed more alert and had

cognitive gains the first few weeks. However, behaviors have slowly but

surely regressed. We will be going back to the doctor in two weeks. Hopefully

starting an anti-fungal. Is this what some of you experienced in the

beginning?

LH

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I have taken it for

some years now, twice a day even though my counts are good.

I used to take acyclovir before that.

If I don't take the Valtrex then within days I get a herpes

breakout and anyone who has that knows how nasty it can be.

When I was a lot sicker in the pre HAART days I was taking

Minocycline for years as a preventative measure against

infection.

I think there is some evidence to indicate that taking

Valtrex or Acyclovir along with HAART actually helps but I'm

not sure.

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I agree with I have taken acyclovir (cheap generic) 3 x a WEEK since 1990 when Conant said it makes us live longer with HIV. also currently on rey and epzic. I take minocyline cuz it seems to keep the rosacia outbreaks on my head less. 

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<<I have taken it for some years now, twice a day even though my counts 

are good. I used to take acyclovir before that.

If I don't take the Valtrex then within days I get a herpes breakout and 

anyone who has that knows how nasty it can be.

When I was a lot sicker in the pre HAART days I was taking Minocycline 

for years as a preventative measure against infection.

I think there is some evidence to indicate that taking Valtrex or 

Acyclovir along with HAART actually helps but I'm not sure.