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I'm lumping ND in from online conversations I've had with autismdiva

and read from a few other people who have blasted me on the AS boards

for treating my daughter. I'm not talking about anything Lenny's said,

I don't agree with him half the time myself. I stand by my statements

from my own experiences.

Debi

>

> It isn't fair to lump neurodiversity advocates

> according to what Lenny Schafer and Best say,

> Debi. Not fair at all.

>

> You know damn well Im pro neurodiversity, which means

> ALL diversity, and I am PRO HEALTH.

>

> Autism got lumped in with the scary diarreah and stuff

> as a way to make Lenny and co able to seperate people

> they didnt feel bad about not listening to us, without

> knowing a blessed thing about us.

>

> You know me better than that, Debi. And I had probably

> the first " Celebrate Neurodiversity " shirt, in 2000.

>

> Kassiane

> pro progress anti cure

>

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I'm lumping ND in from online conversations I've had with autismdiva

and read from a few other people who have blasted me on the AS boards

for treating my daughter. I'm not talking about anything Lenny's said,

I don't agree with him half the time myself. I stand by my statements

from my own experiences.

Debi

>

> It isn't fair to lump neurodiversity advocates

> according to what Lenny Schafer and Best say,

> Debi. Not fair at all.

>

> You know damn well Im pro neurodiversity, which means

> ALL diversity, and I am PRO HEALTH.

>

> Autism got lumped in with the scary diarreah and stuff

> as a way to make Lenny and co able to seperate people

> they didnt feel bad about not listening to us, without

> knowing a blessed thing about us.

>

> You know me better than that, Debi. And I had probably

> the first " Celebrate Neurodiversity " shirt, in 2000.

>

> Kassiane

> pro progress anti cure

>

>

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There is an expression or vision that everyone who does the same thing

walk the same path, follow each other, etc. If you imagine 100 people

and 99 of them all walk the same path, the grass, sticks, and other

stuff get " beaten " into the dirt from feet. If someone does something

different it's described as walking off that pat, or " off the beaten

trail. " They aren't doing things like everyone else, so they make

their own trail.

HTH,

Debi

>

> what is the words Off the beaten trail mean?

>

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There is an expression or vision that everyone who does the same thing

walk the same path, follow each other, etc. If you imagine 100 people

and 99 of them all walk the same path, the grass, sticks, and other

stuff get " beaten " into the dirt from feet. If someone does something

different it's described as walking off that pat, or " off the beaten

trail. " They aren't doing things like everyone else, so they make

their own trail.

HTH,

Debi

>

> what is the words Off the beaten trail mean?

>

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It sounds to me that you and I are picking out the most annoying

aspects of a group and using it as representative for everyone.

Debi

>

> > Kassi, you are great about helping and trying to

> > weed out the " really

> > needs help " vs " think about it, what does it matter

> > in the big

> > picture " stuff. But there are some ND people who

> > scoff at any desire

> > to help kids.

> >

> > Debi

> >

> >

> >

> >

>

>

>

>

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It sounds to me that you and I are picking out the most annoying

aspects of a group and using it as representative for everyone.

Debi

>

> > Kassi, you are great about helping and trying to

> > weed out the " really

> > needs help " vs " think about it, what does it matter

> > in the big

> > picture " stuff. But there are some ND people who

> > scoff at any desire

> > to help kids.

> >

> > Debi

> >

> >

> >

> >

>

>

>

>

________________________________________________________________________________\

____

> Be a better pen pal.

> Text or chat with friends inside Yahoo! Mail. See how.

http://overview.mail.yahoo.com/

>

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I'm thinkin so. Theyre the loud parts.

Kassiane

still pro neurodiversity, pro progress, pro health,

and anti cure-if any of this changes, look for my

brain

--- Debi wrote:

> It sounds to me that you and I are picking out the

> most annoying

> aspects of a group and using it as representative

> for everyone.

>

> Debi

>

>

> >

> > > Kassi, you are great about helping and trying to

> > > weed out the " really

> > > needs help " vs " think about it, what does it

> matter

> > > in the big

> > > picture " stuff. But there are some ND people who

> > > scoff at any desire

> > > to help kids.

> > >

> > > Debi

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> >

>

________________________________________________________________________________\

____

> > Be a better pen pal.

> > Text or chat with friends inside Yahoo! Mail. See

> how.

> http://overview.mail.yahoo.com/

> >

>

>

>

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I'm thinkin so. Theyre the loud parts.

Kassiane

still pro neurodiversity, pro progress, pro health,

and anti cure-if any of this changes, look for my

brain

--- Debi wrote:

> It sounds to me that you and I are picking out the

> most annoying

> aspects of a group and using it as representative

> for everyone.

>

> Debi

>

>

> >

> > > Kassi, you are great about helping and trying to

> > > weed out the " really

> > > needs help " vs " think about it, what does it

> matter

> > > in the big

> > > picture " stuff. But there are some ND people who

> > > scoff at any desire

> > > to help kids.

> > >

> > > Debi

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> >

>

________________________________________________________________________________\

____

> > Be a better pen pal.

> > Text or chat with friends inside Yahoo! Mail. See

> how.

> http://overview.mail.yahoo.com/

> >

>

>

>

________________________________________________________________________________\

____

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Didn't mean to stir anything up, but that is just my opinion in

regards to my daughter.

I understand what you are saying (Kassi) but just an example my

daughter still uses pull ups to do #2, because she is terrified of

the splash in the toilet. So imagine in school how her stomach must

feel if she needs to go to the bathroom but she can't because she

doesn't know how to ask for a pull up. By the way she is 6. It just

breaks my heart to know that she is suffering inside and there is

NOTHING I can do to help her.

Kassie just one question, are you a mother? If not, just like

a " typical " child will never understand the worries of a mother until

she becomes one, that also applies for a child with any type

of " label " as you call it.

I will drop this conversation at that, I don't want to be the problem

starter or stir up any emotions, trust me that is not why I joined

this group.

> > >

> > > > Kassi, you are great about helping and trying to

> > > > weed out the " really

> > > > needs help " vs " think about it, what does it

> > matter

> > > > in the big

> > > > picture " stuff. But there are some ND people who

> > > > scoff at any desire

> > > > to help kids.

> > > >

> > > > Debi

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> >

>

______________________________________________________________________

______________

> > > Be a better pen pal.

> > > Text or chat with friends inside Yahoo! Mail. See

> > how.

> > http://overview.mail.yahoo.com/

> > >

> >

> >

> >

>

>

>

>

______________________________________________________________________

______________

> Looking for last minute shopping deals?

> Find them fast with Yahoo! Search.

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Didn't mean to stir anything up, but that is just my opinion in

regards to my daughter.

I understand what you are saying (Kassi) but just an example my

daughter still uses pull ups to do #2, because she is terrified of

the splash in the toilet. So imagine in school how her stomach must

feel if she needs to go to the bathroom but she can't because she

doesn't know how to ask for a pull up. By the way she is 6. It just

breaks my heart to know that she is suffering inside and there is

NOTHING I can do to help her.

Kassie just one question, are you a mother? If not, just like

a " typical " child will never understand the worries of a mother until

she becomes one, that also applies for a child with any type

of " label " as you call it.

I will drop this conversation at that, I don't want to be the problem

starter or stir up any emotions, trust me that is not why I joined

this group.

> > >

> > > > Kassi, you are great about helping and trying to

> > > > weed out the " really

> > > > needs help " vs " think about it, what does it

> > matter

> > > > in the big

> > > > picture " stuff. But there are some ND people who

> > > > scoff at any desire

> > > > to help kids.

> > > >

> > > > Debi

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> >

>

______________________________________________________________________

______________

> > > Be a better pen pal.

> > > Text or chat with friends inside Yahoo! Mail. See

> > how.

> > http://overview.mail.yahoo.com/

> > >

> >

> >

> >

>

>

>

>

______________________________________________________________________

______________

> Looking for last minute shopping deals?

> Find them fast with Yahoo! Search.

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I wish more of them were like you.

> > >

> > > > Kassi, you are great about helping and trying to

> > > > weed out the " really

> > > > needs help " vs " think about it, what does it

> > matter

> > > > in the big

> > > > picture " stuff. But there are some ND people who

> > > > scoff at any desire

> > > > to help kids.

> > > >

> > > > Debi

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> >

>

________________________________________________________________________________\

____

> > > Be a better pen pal.

> > > Text or chat with friends inside Yahoo! Mail. See

> > how.

> > http://overview.mail.yahoo.com/

> > >

> >

> >

> >

>

>

>

>

________________________________________________________________________________\

____

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I wish more of them were like you.

> > >

> > > > Kassi, you are great about helping and trying to

> > > > weed out the " really

> > > > needs help " vs " think about it, what does it

> > matter

> > > > in the big

> > > > picture " stuff. But there are some ND people who

> > > > scoff at any desire

> > > > to help kids.

> > > >

> > > > Debi

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> >

>

________________________________________________________________________________\

____

> > > Be a better pen pal.

> > > Text or chat with friends inside Yahoo! Mail. See

> > how.

> > http://overview.mail.yahoo.com/

> > >

> >

> >

> >

>

>

>

>

________________________________________________________________________________\

____

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Are you autistic?

Didn't think so.

Therefore, your opinions on autism are less relevant

than mine.

DON'T start with me on the " you aren't a mother " crap,

just don't.

Kassiane

--- nevaehlopez6 wrote:

> Didn't mean to stir anything up, but that is just my

> opinion in

> regards to my daughter.

>

> I understand what you are saying (Kassi) but just an

> example my

> daughter still uses pull ups to do #2, because she

> is terrified of

> the splash in the toilet. So imagine in school how

> her stomach must

> feel if she needs to go to the bathroom but she

> can't because she

> doesn't know how to ask for a pull up. By the way

> she is 6. It just

> breaks my heart to know that she is suffering inside

> and there is

> NOTHING I can do to help her.

>

> Kassie just one question, are you a mother? If not,

> just like

> a " typical " child will never understand the worries

> of a mother until

> she becomes one, that also applies for a child with

> any type

> of " label " as you call it.

>

> I will drop this conversation at that, I don't want

> to be the problem

> starter or stir up any emotions, trust me that is

> not why I joined

> this group.

>

>

>

>

>

> > > >

> > > > > Kassi, you are great about helping and

> trying to

> > > > > weed out the " really

> > > > > needs help " vs " think about it, what does it

> > > matter

> > > > > in the big

> > > > > picture " stuff. But there are some ND people

> who

> > > > > scoff at any desire

> > > > > to help kids.

> > > > >

> > > > > Debi

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

______________________________________________________________________

> ______________

> > > > Be a better pen pal.

> > > > Text or chat with friends inside Yahoo! Mail.

> See

> > > how.

> > > http://overview.mail.yahoo.com/

> > > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> >

>

______________________________________________________________________

> ______________

> > Looking for last minute shopping deals?

> > Find them fast with Yahoo! Search.

>

http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?category=shopping

> >

>

>

>

________________________________________________________________________________\

____

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Are you autistic?

Didn't think so.

Therefore, your opinions on autism are less relevant

than mine.

DON'T start with me on the " you aren't a mother " crap,

just don't.

Kassiane

--- nevaehlopez6 wrote:

> Didn't mean to stir anything up, but that is just my

> opinion in

> regards to my daughter.

>

> I understand what you are saying (Kassi) but just an

> example my

> daughter still uses pull ups to do #2, because she

> is terrified of

> the splash in the toilet. So imagine in school how

> her stomach must

> feel if she needs to go to the bathroom but she

> can't because she

> doesn't know how to ask for a pull up. By the way

> she is 6. It just

> breaks my heart to know that she is suffering inside

> and there is

> NOTHING I can do to help her.

>

> Kassie just one question, are you a mother? If not,

> just like

> a " typical " child will never understand the worries

> of a mother until

> she becomes one, that also applies for a child with

> any type

> of " label " as you call it.

>

> I will drop this conversation at that, I don't want

> to be the problem

> starter or stir up any emotions, trust me that is

> not why I joined

> this group.

>

>

>

>

>

> > > >

> > > > > Kassi, you are great about helping and

> trying to

> > > > > weed out the " really

> > > > > needs help " vs " think about it, what does it

> > > matter

> > > > > in the big

> > > > > picture " stuff. But there are some ND people

> who

> > > > > scoff at any desire

> > > > > to help kids.

> > > > >

> > > > > Debi

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

______________________________________________________________________

> ______________

> > > > Be a better pen pal.

> > > > Text or chat with friends inside Yahoo! Mail.

> See

> > > how.

> > > http://overview.mail.yahoo.com/

> > > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> >

>

______________________________________________________________________

> ______________

> > Looking for last minute shopping deals?

> > Find them fast with Yahoo! Search.

>

http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?category=shopping

> >

>

>

>

________________________________________________________________________________\

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A lot are, they either just aren't as loud or aren't

calling themselves ND advocates (because of that brush

we get painted with).

Kassiane

--- Debi wrote:

> I wish more of them were like you.

>

>

> > > >

> > > > > Kassi, you are great about helping and

> trying to

> > > > > weed out the " really

> > > > > needs help " vs " think about it, what does it

> > > matter

> > > > > in the big

> > > > > picture " stuff. But there are some ND people

> who

> > > > > scoff at any desire

> > > > > to help kids.

> > > > >

> > > > > Debi

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

________________________________________________________________________________\

____

> > > > Be a better pen pal.

> > > > Text or chat with friends inside Yahoo! Mail.

> See

> > > how.

> > > http://overview.mail.yahoo.com/

> > > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> >

>

________________________________________________________________________________\

____

> > Looking for last minute shopping deals?

> > Find them fast with Yahoo! Search.

>

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> >

>

>

>

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A lot are, they either just aren't as loud or aren't

calling themselves ND advocates (because of that brush

we get painted with).

Kassiane

--- Debi wrote:

> I wish more of them were like you.

>

>

> > > >

> > > > > Kassi, you are great about helping and

> trying to

> > > > > weed out the " really

> > > > > needs help " vs " think about it, what does it

> > > matter

> > > > > in the big

> > > > > picture " stuff. But there are some ND people

> who

> > > > > scoff at any desire

> > > > > to help kids.

> > > > >

> > > > > Debi

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

________________________________________________________________________________\

____

> > > > Be a better pen pal.

> > > > Text or chat with friends inside Yahoo! Mail.

> See

> > > how.

> > > http://overview.mail.yahoo.com/

> > > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> >

>

________________________________________________________________________________\

____

> > Looking for last minute shopping deals?

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>

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>

>

>

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I tried to be the bigger person and end this discussion since it's

not getting us anywhere, but I guess I can't.

I really appreciate the comments and suggestions in this group, but

obviously OPINIONS are not welcome.

Thank you very much and good luck with everything in life.

God Bless

> > > > >

> > > > > > Kassi, you are great about helping and

> > trying to

> > > > > > weed out the " really

> > > > > > needs help " vs " think about it, what does it

> > > > matter

> > > > > > in the big

> > > > > > picture " stuff. But there are some ND people

> > who

> > > > > > scoff at any desire

> > > > > > to help kids.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Debi

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

______________________________________________________________________

> > ______________

> > > > > Be a better pen pal.

> > > > > Text or chat with friends inside Yahoo! Mail.

> > See

> > > > how.

> > > > http://overview.mail.yahoo.com/

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> >

>

______________________________________________________________________

> > ______________

> > > Looking for last minute shopping deals?

> > > Find them fast with Yahoo! Search.

> >

> http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?

category=shopping

> > >

> >

> >

> >

>

>

>

>

______________________________________________________________________

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I tried to be the bigger person and end this discussion since it's

not getting us anywhere, but I guess I can't.

I really appreciate the comments and suggestions in this group, but

obviously OPINIONS are not welcome.

Thank you very much and good luck with everything in life.

God Bless

> > > > >

> > > > > > Kassi, you are great about helping and

> > trying to

> > > > > > weed out the " really

> > > > > > needs help " vs " think about it, what does it

> > > > matter

> > > > > > in the big

> > > > > > picture " stuff. But there are some ND people

> > who

> > > > > > scoff at any desire

> > > > > > to help kids.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Debi

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

______________________________________________________________________

> > ______________

> > > > > Be a better pen pal.

> > > > > Text or chat with friends inside Yahoo! Mail.

> > See

> > > > how.

> > > > http://overview.mail.yahoo.com/

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> >

>

______________________________________________________________________

> > ______________

> > > Looking for last minute shopping deals?

> > > Find them fast with Yahoo! Search.

> >

> http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?

category=shopping

> > >

> >

> >

> >

>

>

>

>

______________________________________________________________________

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You're trying to say MY opinions arent welcome because

IM not a mom.

That's not fair. You KNOW that isn't fair. The appeal

to emotions is the NT female (usually female) way of

saying " I was unfair but want people to think Im the

good guy anyway, feel sorry for me because Im a MOM

with an AUTISTIC KID and am SAYING I was trying to be

the bigger person even if I WASNT " .

I've been in enough of these discussions to know this

stuff. The " are you a mom? " thing has LESS relevence

than " are you autistic? "

Kassiane

sick of the double standard

--- nevaehlopez6 wrote:

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You're trying to say MY opinions arent welcome because

IM not a mom.

That's not fair. You KNOW that isn't fair. The appeal

to emotions is the NT female (usually female) way of

saying " I was unfair but want people to think Im the

good guy anyway, feel sorry for me because Im a MOM

with an AUTISTIC KID and am SAYING I was trying to be

the bigger person even if I WASNT " .

I've been in enough of these discussions to know this

stuff. The " are you a mom? " thing has LESS relevence

than " are you autistic? "

Kassiane

sick of the double standard

--- nevaehlopez6 wrote:

> I tried to be the bigger person and end this

> discussion since it's

> not getting us anywhere, but I guess I can't.

>

> I really appreciate the comments and suggestions in

> this group, but

> obviously OPINIONS are not welcome.

>

> Thank you very much and good luck with everything in

> life.

>

> God Bless

>

>

>

>

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > Kassi, you are great about helping and

> > > trying to

> > > > > > > weed out the " really

> > > > > > > needs help " vs " think about it, what

> does it

> > > > > matter

> > > > > > > in the big

> > > > > > > picture " stuff. But there are some ND

> people

> > > who

> > > > > > > scoff at any desire

> > > > > > > to help kids.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Debi

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

______________________________________________________________________

> > > ______________

> > > > > > Be a better pen pal.

> > > > > > Text or chat with friends inside Yahoo!

> Mail.

> > > See

> > > > > how.

> > > > > http://overview.mail.yahoo.com/

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

______________________________________________________________________

> > > ______________

> > > > Looking for last minute shopping deals?

> > > > Find them fast with Yahoo! Search.

> > >

> >

>

http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?

> category=shopping

> > > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> >

>

______________________________________________________________________

> ______________

> > Be a better friend, newshound, and

> > know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now.

>

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> >

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Kassiane, becoming a mother changed me completely, in ways I never

imagined nor could have predicted. I've eaten so many words that I

spoke before motherhood that I've lost count. I think that's what the

comment was about when you were asked if you are a mother. It's not

about opinions not being welcome. It's about perspective.

You are PURE GOLD to us as far as the WEIGHT of your opinion, because

you speak from a perspective that most of us are trying to gain, and

that's to walk in the shoes, see through the eyes of our daughters.

Your comments, opinions, strong positions have also changed me.

We are all works in progress. No one meant any offense or disrespect.

We appreciate you.

PennY

>

> You're trying to say MY opinions arent welcome because IM not a mom.

>

> Kassiane

> sick of the double standard

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