Re: Autism: To Vaccinate Or Not to Vaccinate

November 30, 2007

Oh BOY! More insulting spam!

I am not an effing epidemic. Spam is though. And

vaccines go into muscle, not the blood stream. Anyone

who's ever had a shot should know that.

If you're going to spam lists, at least be accurate

about it.

Kassiane

who near died from whooping cough caught from an

" OMGZVACCINESEATBABIES! " family. thanks.

--- VIC wrote:

> Below is another recent news broadcast on the cause

> of the epidemic of autism. Rick Blackburn was a

> board member of TAAP (The Autism Autoimmunity

> Project) and did a wonderful job, so take time to

> watch the video. Please don't waste your time

> visiting " The Vaccines News & Database Website "

> link, because the pharma still has its hold on the

> media and it is very pro vaccine. Visit websites

> like www.vacinfo.org and many others listed

> http://vacinfo.org/links.htm to learn truth. We're

> not being funded by the pharmaceutical companies and

> WILL NOT compromise our view! The human body NEVER

> needs these toxins

> http://vacinfo.org/ingredients.htm injected directly

> into the bloodstream. The only safe place for a

> vaccine is in the garbage can. We need to reach the

> misinformed, so please visit

> http://vacinfo.org/lectures.asp and spread the news

> to everyone you know. There is no charge to attend

> and the full truth will be revealed. The families

> in land that were threatened to vaccinate their

> children would not have been threatened, if they

> would have been informed. I have plenty of " Educate

> BEFORE You Vaccinate " sweatshirts, with the

> ingredients on the back for only $15(adults) and

> $10(children). I just ordered 10,000 more " Educate

> BEFORE You Vaccinate " business cards with the

> ingredients on the back, so please give your mailing

> address and I'll send FREE cards for you to share

> with others. I also ordered Neil Z. 's new

> " Vaccines: are they really safe and effective " book

> and he told me he added info on the newest vaccines.

> Also, please consider scheduling a free

> presentation in your area. I will send the flyer,

> so all you have to do is find the location

> (churches, libraries, etc) and promote the event.

> Thank you so much for your continued support and God

> bless, April

>

http://cbs4.com/seenon/vaccine.autism.kids.2.598341.html

>

> Reporting

> Michele Gillen

> MIAMI (CBS4) ? A radical move in the world of

> medicine is advising pediatricians across the

> country to screen every child at age 18 months and 2

> years old for signs of autism.

>

> The greatest of medical detectives, the most loving

> of parents and the most genius of scientists can't

> seem to unravel the world of autism and the mystery

> of what may cause it. Now growing numbers of parents

> and doctors

> are declaring war to help find answers for the

> millions not yet touched by it.

>

> As we searched for answers, we met some young

> warriors in the fight to defy science and

> stereotypes; students of Miami's pioneering Victory

> School. Some of their parents share the nightmare

> Rick Blackburn lives. His son showed common symptoms

> of the onset of autism within days of getting

> vaccinated and was near death at only 18 months.

>

> " We immediately took him to the emergency room and

> they couldn't do anything about the high fever,

> listlessness and the vomiting so they admitted him.

> Doctors couldn't figure out what was wrong with him

> and they were warning us that he may perish. That he

> was not going to make it, " said Blackburn.

>

> What followed was chilling.

>

> " What really was amazing was that we started running

> across parents in large numbers with the same exact

> story, " said Blackburn.

>

> That's no surprise says, pediatrician, Dr.

> Ryndland who is considered one of the nations

> foremost experts on autism and controversial in his

> public concerns over what he considers a potential

> safety risk of vaccines for some children and the

> urgent need he says for all parents to take charge

> of the decision to vaccinate or not.

>

> When asked if the decision to vaccinate or not could

> put a child in danger, Ryndland responded,

> " Absolutely. The vaccines sometimes are the straw

> that breaks the camel's back. The question is if the

> immune system is overloaded

> with too many vaccines over too short a period of

> time, or sometimes, in some cases where children are

> very susceptible, even one vaccine might cause a

> problem. "

>

> Rydland says there are many theories of why the

> mercury based preservative thimerisol captured

> headlines and was, according to the CDC, removed at

> their request from most childhood vaccines. Ryndland

> says it might not be the mercury but injections of

> multiple viruses into young children who may have

> compromised immune systems that could present a

> possible risk of triggering a variety of

> neurological problems.

>

> The CDC reports that no link has been found between

> the common Measles, Mumps and Rubella Vaccines and

> neurological disorders. Maye treats hundreds

> of autistic children and says he is haunted by the

> faces of parents struggling with the horror of the

> so-called lost

> children.

>

> As a former Miami-Dade detective turned holistic

> clinician, he is in the investigation of his life,

> trying to determine if there is a link between

> children getting vaccinated and autism, which he

> says is presenting in high

> numbers at the 18-month mark.

>

> " To me there are too many kids that have come in

> that have regressed at 18 months for it not to be

> something for us to look at, " said Maye.

>

> He confirmed that 80% of children diagnosed with

> autism develop problems at 18 months of age, and not

> at birth--a percentile he found shocking.

>

> " Absolutely shocking. We need to do something that

> is going to investigate that 18-month aspect and

> come up with and answer. I've looked all over the

> country. The pattern seems to be that the children

> that have a problem

> around 18-months have reacted to every vaccination

> whether they have had a 101 fever for about 24 hours

> and it has gone away, " said Maye.

>

> Again, the CDC reports there is no link between

> autism and vaccines but that its major study into

> this is due out next year.

>

> Ryndland and Maye agree that all parents need to

> carefully investigative what type of vaccine regimen

> they want for their child and evaluate the health -

> particularly the immune system of the child before

> vaccinating.

>

> Dr. Rynland suggests investigating how and when to

> vaccinate If you vaccinate your child, Dr. Ryndland

> suggests spanning out the injections and

> investigating having your child vaccinated for one

> virus at a time even though it may seem

> inconvenient.

>

> " First I advise my patients to inform themselves.

> Second choose vaccines wisely. and third prepare

> your child for the vaccines, " he said. He says if

> you are concerned - you might consider delaying

> certain vaccines.

>

> " So even if a child goes into school they don't have

> to have vaccines at 2 months, if they are not going

> to school until they are 5 years old they can delay

> vaccines. They can only give those vaccines that are

> required for schools, " said Ryndland.

>

> Many parents don't think twice about giving their

> children flu shots but need to keep in mind that

> certain brands contain the preservative mercury

> while others don't.

>

> " I think that first of all I would not give a flu

> shot to any of my children nor will I recommend it

> to my grandchildren, " said Ryndland.

>

> In the end many parents are struggling for answers.

> Rick Blackburn finds himself one of thousands across

> the country attempting to sue manufacturer's

> alleging a link between autism and the childhood

> shot.

> Whatever the court outcome, he says he hopes the

> challenge his little boy faces might somehow spare

> another child.

>

> (© MMVII, CBS Broadcasting Inc. All Rights

> Reserved.)

>

http://cbs4.com/iteam/vaccine.autism.kids.2.598341.html

>

> VIC - Vaccine Injury Coalition

> Autism is 1 in 150 children today and it's

> impossible to have a genetic epidemic!

> Please learn from our mistake and educate BEFORE you

> vaccinate!

> For more information visit www.vacinfo.org or email

> VIC@...

>

> Autism_in_Girls-subscribe

> ------------------------

> Autism_in_Girls-unsubscribe

>

November 30, 2007

Oh BOY! More insulting spam!

I am not an effing epidemic. Spam is though. And

vaccines go into muscle, not the blood stream. Anyone

who's ever had a shot should know that.

If you're going to spam lists, at least be accurate

about it.

Kassiane

who near died from whooping cough caught from an

" OMGZVACCINESEATBABIES! " family. thanks.

--- VIC wrote:

> Below is another recent news broadcast on the cause

> of the epidemic of autism. Rick Blackburn was a

> board member of TAAP (The Autism Autoimmunity

> Project) and did a wonderful job, so take time to

> watch the video. Please don't waste your time

> visiting " The Vaccines News & Database Website "

> link, because the pharma still has its hold on the

> media and it is very pro vaccine. Visit websites

> like www.vacinfo.org and many others listed

> http://vacinfo.org/links.htm to learn truth. We're

> not being funded by the pharmaceutical companies and

> WILL NOT compromise our view! The human body NEVER

> needs these toxins

> http://vacinfo.org/ingredients.htm injected directly

> into the bloodstream. The only safe place for a

> vaccine is in the garbage can. We need to reach the

> misinformed, so please visit

> http://vacinfo.org/lectures.asp and spread the news

> to everyone you know. There is no charge to attend

> and the full truth will be revealed. The families

> in land that were threatened to vaccinate their

> children would not have been threatened, if they

> would have been informed. I have plenty of " Educate

> BEFORE You Vaccinate " sweatshirts, with the

> ingredients on the back for only $15(adults) and

> $10(children). I just ordered 10,000 more " Educate

> BEFORE You Vaccinate " business cards with the

> ingredients on the back, so please give your mailing

> address and I'll send FREE cards for you to share

> with others. I also ordered Neil Z. 's new

> " Vaccines: are they really safe and effective " book

> and he told me he added info on the newest vaccines.

> Also, please consider scheduling a free

> presentation in your area. I will send the flyer,

> so all you have to do is find the location

> (churches, libraries, etc) and promote the event.

> Thank you so much for your continued support and God

> bless, April

>

http://cbs4.com/seenon/vaccine.autism.kids.2.598341.html

>

> Reporting

> Michele Gillen

> MIAMI (CBS4) ? A radical move in the world of

> medicine is advising pediatricians across the

> country to screen every child at age 18 months and 2

> years old for signs of autism.

>

> The greatest of medical detectives, the most loving

> of parents and the most genius of scientists can't

> seem to unravel the world of autism and the mystery

> of what may cause it. Now growing numbers of parents

> and doctors

> are declaring war to help find answers for the

> millions not yet touched by it.

>

> As we searched for answers, we met some young

> warriors in the fight to defy science and

> stereotypes; students of Miami's pioneering Victory

> School. Some of their parents share the nightmare

> Rick Blackburn lives. His son showed common symptoms

> of the onset of autism within days of getting

> vaccinated and was near death at only 18 months.

>

> " We immediately took him to the emergency room and

> they couldn't do anything about the high fever,

> listlessness and the vomiting so they admitted him.

> Doctors couldn't figure out what was wrong with him

> and they were warning us that he may perish. That he

> was not going to make it, " said Blackburn.

>

> What followed was chilling.

>

> " What really was amazing was that we started running

> across parents in large numbers with the same exact

> story, " said Blackburn.

>

> That's no surprise says, pediatrician, Dr.

> Ryndland who is considered one of the nations

> foremost experts on autism and controversial in his

> public concerns over what he considers a potential

> safety risk of vaccines for some children and the

> urgent need he says for all parents to take charge

> of the decision to vaccinate or not.

>

> When asked if the decision to vaccinate or not could

> put a child in danger, Ryndland responded,

> " Absolutely. The vaccines sometimes are the straw

> that breaks the camel's back. The question is if the

> immune system is overloaded

> with too many vaccines over too short a period of

> time, or sometimes, in some cases where children are

> very susceptible, even one vaccine might cause a

> problem. "

>

> Rydland says there are many theories of why the

> mercury based preservative thimerisol captured

> headlines and was, according to the CDC, removed at

> their request from most childhood vaccines. Ryndland

> says it might not be the mercury but injections of

> multiple viruses into young children who may have

> compromised immune systems that could present a

> possible risk of triggering a variety of

> neurological problems.

>

> The CDC reports that no link has been found between

> the common Measles, Mumps and Rubella Vaccines and

> neurological disorders. Maye treats hundreds

> of autistic children and says he is haunted by the

> faces of parents struggling with the horror of the

> so-called lost

> children.

>

> As a former Miami-Dade detective turned holistic

> clinician, he is in the investigation of his life,

> trying to determine if there is a link between

> children getting vaccinated and autism, which he

> says is presenting in high

> numbers at the 18-month mark.

>

> " To me there are too many kids that have come in

> that have regressed at 18 months for it not to be

> something for us to look at, " said Maye.

>

> He confirmed that 80% of children diagnosed with

> autism develop problems at 18 months of age, and not

> at birth--a percentile he found shocking.

>

> " Absolutely shocking. We need to do something that

> is going to investigate that 18-month aspect and

> come up with and answer. I've looked all over the

> country. The pattern seems to be that the children

> that have a problem

> around 18-months have reacted to every vaccination

> whether they have had a 101 fever for about 24 hours

> and it has gone away, " said Maye.

>

> Again, the CDC reports there is no link between

> autism and vaccines but that its major study into

> this is due out next year.

>

> Ryndland and Maye agree that all parents need to

> carefully investigative what type of vaccine regimen

> they want for their child and evaluate the health -

> particularly the immune system of the child before

> vaccinating.

>

> Dr. Rynland suggests investigating how and when to

> vaccinate If you vaccinate your child, Dr. Ryndland

> suggests spanning out the injections and

> investigating having your child vaccinated for one

> virus at a time even though it may seem

> inconvenient.

>

> " First I advise my patients to inform themselves.

> Second choose vaccines wisely. and third prepare

> your child for the vaccines, " he said. He says if

> you are concerned - you might consider delaying

> certain vaccines.

>

> " So even if a child goes into school they don't have

> to have vaccines at 2 months, if they are not going

> to school until they are 5 years old they can delay

> vaccines. They can only give those vaccines that are

> required for schools, " said Ryndland.

>

> Many parents don't think twice about giving their

> children flu shots but need to keep in mind that

> certain brands contain the preservative mercury

> while others don't.

>

> " I think that first of all I would not give a flu

> shot to any of my children nor will I recommend it

> to my grandchildren, " said Ryndland.

>

> In the end many parents are struggling for answers.

> Rick Blackburn finds himself one of thousands across

> the country attempting to sue manufacturer's

> alleging a link between autism and the childhood

> shot.

> Whatever the court outcome, he says he hopes the

> challenge his little boy faces might somehow spare

> another child.

>

> (© MMVII, CBS Broadcasting Inc. All Rights

> Reserved.)

>

http://cbs4.com/iteam/vaccine.autism.kids.2.598341.html

>

> VIC - Vaccine Injury Coalition

> Autism is 1 in 150 children today and it's

> impossible to have a genetic epidemic!

> Please learn from our mistake and educate BEFORE you

> vaccinate!

> For more information visit www.vacinfo.org or email

> VIC@...

>

> Autism_in_Girls-subscribe

> ------------------------

> Autism_in_Girls-unsubscribe

>

November 30, 2007

I'm not sure what your quotated thing meant, lol, but unfortunately

the pertussis vaccine is only 50-70% effective, per CDC's own data.

That's one of the things they need to stop falsely pushing, that

vaccines equate to no disease outbreak.

I think it's wrong for anyone to be pushing a 100% pro/con vaccine

plan. It's a medical procedure & should be about individual,

personalized health care needs.

Debi

>> Kassiane

> who near died from whooping cough caught from an

> " OMGZVACCINESEATBABIES! " family. thanks.

>

November 30, 2007

I'm not sure what your quotated thing meant, lol, but unfortunately

the pertussis vaccine is only 50-70% effective, per CDC's own data.

That's one of the things they need to stop falsely pushing, that

vaccines equate to no disease outbreak.

I think it's wrong for anyone to be pushing a 100% pro/con vaccine

plan. It's a medical procedure & should be about individual,

personalized health care needs.

Debi

>> Kassiane

> who near died from whooping cough caught from an

> " OMGZVACCINESEATBABIES! " family. thanks.

>

November 30, 2007

I am very confused when it comes to vaccines. My daughter is 6 and

was dx with autism 4 1/2 years ago. I was going crazy to just " fix "

her that all I paid attention to was therapy.

Now, I have a 14 month old who I have also vaccinated only because I

really seriously did not know (too busy in therapy world) until I saw

a special on vaccinations and the whole controversy.

I have a couple of friends who are not vaccinating. And they have

given me links ex. K.N.O.W. And it has helped me understand the pro's

and con's.

I JUST HOPE AND PRAY TO GOD EVERYDAY THAT IT IS NOT TOO LATE. I WILL

NEVER FORGIVE MYSELF FOR IT.

> >> Kassiane

> > who near died from whooping cough caught from an

> > " OMGZVACCINESEATBABIES! " family. thanks.

> >

>

November 30, 2007

I am very confused when it comes to vaccines. My daughter is 6 and

was dx with autism 4 1/2 years ago. I was going crazy to just " fix "

her that all I paid attention to was therapy.

Now, I have a 14 month old who I have also vaccinated only because I

really seriously did not know (too busy in therapy world) until I saw

a special on vaccinations and the whole controversy.

I have a couple of friends who are not vaccinating. And they have

given me links ex. K.N.O.W. And it has helped me understand the pro's

and con's.

I JUST HOPE AND PRAY TO GOD EVERYDAY THAT IT IS NOT TOO LATE. I WILL

NEVER FORGIVE MYSELF FOR IT.

> >> Kassiane

> > who near died from whooping cough caught from an

> > " OMGZVACCINESEATBABIES! " family. thanks.

> >

>

November 30, 2007

I have a daughter who got all her shots on time. She did have a

reaction to MMR -- measles rash, moderate/high fever, malaise,

fussiness for about 3 days. She does have respiratory stuff since

about 15 mos, she's now 10 and still has some. Other than that, she's

fine. Allie was developing normally and got a hepB at 9 mos, within

about 2 wks lost all babble/language, stopped eating, pulling up,

began staring off in into space, etc. My five yr old has never been

immunized and I have complete peace in not having had her immunized; I

still research & pray about if/when we should.

I would never say I would never immunize, but I do say I will

carefully question before ever getting my kids or self another one.

The risk has to be so great that I feel it's necessary. Pertussis is

very scary, but like I think Sondra has shared that her child got it

while an infant, after being immunized, as do many infants. Two of my

kids have had pertussis, one was immunized, one wasn't. They were 3 &

7 at the time, so it wasn't anything horrific, like a lingering case

of bronchitis. And now we can mark that off the " need to " list.

Two of my 3 kids have had chicken pox, I'd far rather them have it

naturally than get the immunization. Polio isn't contracted in this

nation, except through the oral, so unless we travel to Africa isn't

not a concern. There are plenty of people who get meningitis who are

immunized, so I'm not convinced that vaccine even works enough to

overlook the risks. HepB is only contracted through blood/semen

exchanges, so that's not even a concern at this time for any of us.

The gardasil vaccine is a total joke in my op. There ain't no way I

would EVER get the rotavirus, the last one killed several infants, i

don't know what the track record is on this latest one, but I wouldn't

trust offit more than I could throw him. And I won't even get started

on the flu vaccine.

BTW, it's not YOUR fault. You were being a good mom, stop beating up

yourself. You are only human and can only do so much.

Debi

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November 30, 2007