Guest guest Posted March 27, 2012 Report Share Posted March 27, 2012 There is a website that you can search for summer camps.www.allgacamps.org Another useful website ti search for child care iswww.qualitycareforchildren.orgSelect -Find Child Care under "Tools for Parents"Sent from my iPhone I am trying to find a summer camp program for my daughter when school gets out on May 22. My daughter is five years old. I need something that is reasonable in price if I have to pay. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 13, 2012 Report Share Posted May 13, 2012 Hi Anne This happened to our daughter when she was really anxious. She would turn corners sharply......we realized it was because we were going to Disney. How old is your daughter? Sent from my iPhone > Hello, > I am brand new to this group and to OCD (my ds was diagnosed a month ago) and was wondering what you do when your child performs compulsions in public such as walking " uniquely, " etc. Obvious compulsions in public are a new thing and I would love some suggestions. I try to redirect him by engaging in conversation if we've been quiet before or I've said, " Looks like your OCD is trying to get the best of you. Remember I'm on your side. " Do any of you use a signal? Should I try to just completely ignore it? Thanks in advance for your help. > > Anne > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 13, 2012 Report Share Posted May 13, 2012 He is 11 years old. It definitely happens when he's anxious and in an " exposure " environment that we're supposed to be in, but I wish I knew how I should react/intervene (or not). ________________________________ To: " " < > Sent: Sunday, May 13, 2012 2:08 PM Subject: Re: (unknown)  Hi Anne This happened to our daughter when she was really anxious. She would turn corners sharply......we realized it was because we were going to Disney. How old is your daughter? Sent from my iPhone > Hello, > I am brand new to this group and to OCD (my ds was diagnosed a month ago) and was wondering what you do when your child performs compulsions in public such as walking " uniquely, " etc. Obvious compulsions in public are a new thing and I would love some suggestions. I try to redirect him by engaging in conversation if we've been quiet before or I've said, " Looks like your OCD is trying to get the best of you. Remember I'm on your side. " Do any of you use a signal? Should I try to just completely ignore it? Thanks in advance for your help. > > Anne > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 13, 2012 Report Share Posted May 13, 2012 I he in therapy for this? With my son, the therapist and he made a list of all the fears he had, and they tackled each one by one, including assignments that he had to do during the week between sessions. With your son, it would be helpful to know why he is walking this way, e.g. he is protecting himself from touching things or whatever. Thus, the therapist or you could help him to see the obsession that leads to this compulsion (way he is walking) is his OCD talking, and he could then identify compulsions he does to deal with this obsession, including the odd walking and agree to tackle these. (unknown) Hello, I am brand new to this group and to OCD (my ds was diagnosed a month ago) and was wondering what you do when your child performs compulsions in public such as walking " uniquely, " etc. Obvious compulsions in public are a new thing and I would love some suggestions. I try to redirect him by engaging in conversation if we've been quiet before or I've said, " Looks like your OCD is trying to get the best of you. Remember I'm on your side. " Do any of you use a signal? Should I try to just completely ignore it? Thanks in advance for your help. Anne Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 13, 2012 Report Share Posted May 13, 2012 I he in therapy for this? With my son, the therapist and he made a list of all the fears he had, and they tackled each one by one, including assignments that he had to do during the week between sessions. With your son, it would be helpful to know why he is walking this way, e.g. he is protecting himself from touching things or whatever. Thus, the therapist or you could help him to see the obsession that leads to this compulsion (way he is walking) is his OCD talking, and he could then identify compulsions he does to deal with this obsession, including the odd walking and agree to tackle these. (unknown) Hello, I am brand new to this group and to OCD (my ds was diagnosed a month ago) and was wondering what you do when your child performs compulsions in public such as walking " uniquely, " etc. Obvious compulsions in public are a new thing and I would love some suggestions. I try to redirect him by engaging in conversation if we've been quiet before or I've said, " Looks like your OCD is trying to get the best of you. Remember I'm on your side. " Do any of you use a signal? Should I try to just completely ignore it? Thanks in advance for your help. Anne Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 13, 2012 Report Share Posted May 13, 2012 I appreciate your reply. He is in therapy for this but I realize that since this compulsion is new, his therapist probably isn't aware of it. I will be sure to bring it to her attention so they can add this to the list that they are tackling. I'll ask her how to deal with compulsions out in public, too. But if anyone has any insight, I'd love to hear it. Thanks. ________________________________ To: Sent: Sunday, May 13, 2012 8:22 PM Subject: Re: (unknown)  I he in therapy for this? With my son, the therapist and he made a list of all the fears he had, and they tackled each one by one, including assignments that he had to do during the week between sessions. With your son, it would be helpful to know why he is walking this way, e.g. he is protecting himself from touching things or whatever. Thus, the therapist or you could help him to see the obsession that leads to this compulsion (way he is walking) is his OCD talking, and he could then identify compulsions he does to deal with this obsession, including the odd walking and agree to tackle these. (unknown) Hello, I am brand new to this group and to OCD (my ds was diagnosed a month ago) and was wondering what you do when your child performs compulsions in public such as walking " uniquely, " etc. Obvious compulsions in public are a new thing and I would love some suggestions. I try to redirect him by engaging in conversation if we've been quiet before or I've said, " Looks like your OCD is trying to get the best of you. Remember I'm on your side. " Do any of you use a signal? Should I try to just completely ignore it? Thanks in advance for your help. Anne Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 13, 2012 Report Share Posted May 13, 2012 I appreciate your reply. He is in therapy for this but I realize that since this compulsion is new, his therapist probably isn't aware of it. I will be sure to bring it to her attention so they can add this to the list that they are tackling. I'll ask her how to deal with compulsions out in public, too. But if anyone has any insight, I'd love to hear it. Thanks. ________________________________ To: Sent: Sunday, May 13, 2012 8:22 PM Subject: Re: (unknown)  I he in therapy for this? With my son, the therapist and he made a list of all the fears he had, and they tackled each one by one, including assignments that he had to do during the week between sessions. With your son, it would be helpful to know why he is walking this way, e.g. he is protecting himself from touching things or whatever. Thus, the therapist or you could help him to see the obsession that leads to this compulsion (way he is walking) is his OCD talking, and he could then identify compulsions he does to deal with this obsession, including the odd walking and agree to tackle these. (unknown) Hello, I am brand new to this group and to OCD (my ds was diagnosed a month ago) and was wondering what you do when your child performs compulsions in public such as walking " uniquely, " etc. Obvious compulsions in public are a new thing and I would love some suggestions. I try to redirect him by engaging in conversation if we've been quiet before or I've said, " Looks like your OCD is trying to get the best of you. Remember I'm on your side. " Do any of you use a signal? Should I try to just completely ignore it? Thanks in advance for your help. Anne Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 13, 2012 Report Share Posted May 13, 2012 Hi Anne, Welcome to our group. I'm sure others may have some suggestions for you on this. We didn't deal with this much. Our son is 20, so he is pretty invested in hiding his OCD in public. Even at his most severe he could. He would do things like walk around things to avoid contamination concerns, or not hug/shake hands, that kind of thing. I never tried to stop him from doing anything like this. I like how you handled it, naming it OCD, redirecting his attention(distraction as a way of coping is useful), telling him you support him, all good things to do. Unless you are working on a particular compulsion, and you are to be pointing it out to him, and helping him work on limiting it, I would leave him alone. He knows he is doing it, and probably is not able not too. So ignoring it, or if he has a comfort level with it, you can be humorous about it, something like, " there goes the OCD making you do a silly walk " - use of humor is dependent on your son though. With OCD, you get pretty comfortable with all manner of bizarre behaviors, behind closed doors or in public. I think it is up to the person with OCD and their comfort level (for lack of a better description). No one wants to act differently in public, and usually if they are acting out a compulsion it is because they are not able to contain it. That they don't start avoiding being in public because of this is more important, so with this in mind I would let it go. You can try asking your son what if anything he would like you to do in this situation. I'm big on giving them the power to choose, since they have lost control to the OCD. I found my son was really good at coming up with creative solutions. Anything short of out and out accommodating the OCD or getting involved in the ritual, is ok. Glad you found our group Anne. Keep posting your questions. There are many here who have dealt with a lot and will usually have some good suggestions, or at minimum can offer understanding. Warmly, Barb Canada Son, 20, OCD, LD Plus > > Hello, > I am brand new to this group and to OCD (my ds was diagnosed a month ago) and was wondering what you do when your child performs compulsions in public such as walking " uniquely, " etc. Obvious compulsions in public are a new thing and I would love some suggestions. I try to redirect him by engaging in conversation if we've been quiet before or I've said, " Looks like your OCD is trying to get the best of you. Remember I'm on your side. " Do any of you use a signal? Should I try to just completely ignore it? Thanks in advance for your help. > > Anne > >] > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 14, 2012 Report Share Posted May 14, 2012 You gave me some amazing insight, Barb. Thank you. I will ask him what he would like for me to do in the situation. Thankfully, he is pretty insightful so this is a perfect suggestion.  Sincerely, Anne ________________________________ To: Sent: Sunday, May 13, 2012 9:57 PM Subject: Re: (unknown)  Hi Anne, Welcome to our group. I'm sure others may have some suggestions for you on this. We didn't deal with this much. Our son is 20, so he is pretty invested in hiding his OCD in public. Even at his most severe he could. He would do things like walk around things to avoid contamination concerns, or not hug/shake hands, that kind of thing. I never tried to stop him from doing anything like this. I like how you handled it, naming it OCD, redirecting his attention(distraction as a way of coping is useful), telling him you support him, all good things to do. Unless you are working on a particular compulsion, and you are to be pointing it out to him, and helping him work on limiting it, I would leave him alone. He knows he is doing it, and probably is not able not too. So ignoring it, or if he has a comfort level with it, you can be humorous about it, something like, " there goes the OCD making you do a silly walk " - use of humor is dependent on your son though. With OCD, you get pretty comfortable with all manner of bizarre behaviors, behind closed doors or in public. I think it is up to the person with OCD and their comfort level (for lack of a better description). No one wants to act differently in public, and usually if they are acting out a compulsion it is because they are not able to contain it. That they don't start avoiding being in public because of this is more important, so with this in mind I would let it go. You can try asking your son what if anything he would like you to do in this situation. I'm big on giving them the power to choose, since they have lost control to the OCD. I found my son was really good at coming up with creative solutions. Anything short of out and out accommodating the OCD or getting involved in the ritual, is ok. Glad you found our group Anne. Keep posting your questions. There are many here who have dealt with a lot and will usually have some good suggestions, or at minimum can offer understanding. Warmly, Barb Canada Son, 20, OCD, LD Plus > > Hello, > I am brand new to this group and to OCD (my ds was diagnosed a month ago) and was wondering what you do when your child performs compulsions in public such as walking " uniquely, " etc. Obvious compulsions in public are a new thing and I would love some suggestions. I try to redirect him by engaging in conversation if we've been quiet before or I've said, " Looks like your OCD is trying to get the best of you. Remember I'm on your side. " Do any of you use a signal? Should I try to just completely ignore it? Thanks in advance for your help. > > Anne > >] > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 14, 2012 Report Share Posted May 14, 2012 Responding to this: " He is 11 years old. It definitely happens when he's anxious and in an " exposure " environment that we're supposed to be in, but I wish I knew how I should react/intervene (or not). " This is a mistake I used to make too. Doing exposures in " real life " Real life exposures are a Late stage of ERP. There are two components- what you do to treat (CBT/ERP) which should be done as a " time out " of real life- a set up exposure, not tolerating stuff in real life. Then there is getting through the day in real life and what you have to do here should not be an exposure until you have a really good handle on the issue in private. The kid needs to know that however much they freak out during the exposure, it is fine. It is in private (ideally) and is time limited. You can explain to him that what ocd is making him do looks odd and ask if he can easily control it in public, but if not, I would work on it at home first and let it be in public. My son used to lick things in public ( to get the spots off) this included desks at school and his shoes(yuck but i did not DARE play the germ card as he has never had a germ issue). We just worked on " spots " at home enough that eventually he stopped licking stuff. But they have to do what they have to do in public and in life to get through. If he is going to freak out so much by not doing the compulsion in public that it makes a scene, it might be more " normal " to jsut do the compulsion. Then work on it with exposures in private. Does that help? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 14, 2012 Report Share Posted May 14, 2012 Wow mario so helpful already call therapist with info thanks Sent from my iPhone On May 14, 2012, at 8:26 AM, " Trabulsy, " wrote: > Responding to this: > " He is 11 years old. It definitely happens when he's anxious and in an " exposure " environment that we're supposed to be in, but I wish I knew how I should react/intervene (or not). " > > This is a mistake I used to make too. Doing exposures in " real life " Real life exposures are a Late stage of ERP. There are two components- what you do to treat (CBT/ERP) which should be done as a " time out " of real life- a set up exposure, not tolerating stuff in real life. Then there is getting through the day in real life and what you have to do here should not be an exposure until you have a really good handle on the issue in private. The kid needs to know that however much they freak out during the exposure, it is fine. It is in private (ideally) and is time limited. > > You can explain to him that what ocd is making him do looks odd and ask if he can easily control it in public, but if not, I would work on it at home first and let it be in public. My son used to lick things in public ( to get the spots off) this included desks at school and his shoes(yuck but i did not DARE play the germ card as he has never had a germ issue). We just worked on " spots " at home enough that eventually he stopped licking stuff. But they have to do what they have to do in public and in life to get through. If he is going to freak out so much by not doing the compulsion in public that it makes a scene, it might be more " normal " to jsut do the compulsion. Then work on it with exposures in private. Does that help? > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 14, 2012 Report Share Posted May 14, 2012 Thank you, . I got a lot out of your reply.  Anne ________________________________ To: " " < > Sent: Monday, May 14, 2012 6:26 AM Subject: Re: (unknown)  Responding to this: " He is 11 years old. It definitely happens when he's anxious and in an " exposure " environment that we're supposed to be in, but I wish I knew how I should react/intervene (or not). " This is a mistake I used to make too. Doing exposures in " real life " Real life exposures are a Late stage of ERP. There are two components- what you do to treat (CBT/ERP) which should be done as a " time out " of real life- a set up exposure, not tolerating stuff in real life. Then there is getting through the day in real life and what you have to do here should not be an exposure until you have a really good handle on the issue in private. The kid needs to know that however much they freak out during the exposure, it is fine. It is in private (ideally) and is time limited. You can explain to him that what ocd is making him do looks odd and ask if he can easily control it in public, but if not, I would work on it at home first and let it be in public. My son used to lick things in public ( to get the spots off) this included desks at school and his shoes(yuck but i did not DARE play the germ card as he has never had a germ issue). We just worked on " spots " at home enough that eventually he stopped licking stuff. But they have to do what they have to do in public and in life to get through. If he is going to freak out so much by not doing the compulsion in public that it makes a scene, it might be more " normal " to jsut do the compulsion. Then work on it with exposures in private. Does that help? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 8, 2012 Report Share Posted July 8, 2012 Sending hugs of support to your whole family as you help him to get the help he needs. (unknown) Thats what I keep hearing from the group and others, to be prepared to make the tough love decisions to keep the focus on the treatment which consists of meds and CBT which is primarily exposure therapy. We are just beginning the journey and now for the first time practiced tough love. I was a wreck since this is so not me. But necessary to be the " bad guy " pointing the direction and then realizing they must make the choice. We must be there to hold out our hand and hugs or continued ultimatums. God this is tough stuff and my heart goes to everyone here dealing with this stuff. Sent from Yahoo! Mail on Android Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 9, 2012 Report Share Posted July 9, 2012 Still thinking of your family today. Hoping all is going as well today with the appt you have been waiting to get to-- as is reasonable to hope for. Understanding it will be a big day for all of you. Please let us know how you and your wife and son are when you feel up to it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 6, 2012 Report Share Posted August 6, 2012 ((())) I know that hole. That emptiness inside, that you just what to fill with food. But if you eat one, it's not enough. So another. And another. And still the hole is there. And still you can't fill it. No matter how much peanut butter or cookies or cashews or hamburgers or ice cream or whatever you pour down your throat. And no matter how much you purge, it will not purge that feeling of emptiness. Putting your intent out there will help. But you have to state it in the positive. Your mind is crossing out the " nots " , and understanding that your intent is to restrict, to purge, to overexercise. What do you want instead? Is your intent to allow yourself to eat what your body needs, to retain it as long as your body needs to extract its nutritional value, and to exercise in a way that leaves you feeling comfortable and relaxed? Is your intent to find other ways to deal with the feelings? Sometimes when I start feeling myself getting all tied up in knots, it helps me to set an intent to find something to smile about at some easily-defined interval. Like every time I get up from my desk at work. It's amazing how many little things I can find. One of the advantages of this kind of intent is that it pulls my focus away from food and exercise--without saying " I will not think of food and exercise " . Maybe you can set your intent to find ways to make you feel good now. Whether it's listening to music or watching a sunset or doing deep breathing.... Sending you feelings of peace, >________________________________ > >To: insideoutweightloss >Sent: Monday, August 6, 2012 10:38 PM >Subject: (unknown) > > > >I am feeling so much anxiety in regards to food right now.  I am afraid nothing will ever be enough, that if I start eating I may never quit.  Realistically I am afraid I will eat and purge.  You know you are messed up with food when you say to yourself if you just eat this healthy portion right now on Saturday you can eat a jar of peanut butter and purge.  How crazy is that?  > >Anyway I am trying to just let this crawling anxiety be and not act out with food to numb it away.  I thought maybe just putting my intent out there to not restrict, not binge, not purge, not over exercise might give me some strength in this moment. > >Sent from my Samsung Epic™ 4G Touch > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 7, 2012 Report Share Posted August 7, 2012 Love your advice and it is good to hear. I can't stand that feeling of a freight train running through my body, stopping long enough to eat and starting right back up again. All the while, an emptiness inside of me or a tension that screams at me- be it fear, anxiety, longing, anger, sadness... I wish something would click in me. I feel the change as a wave- I am learning but still the water has not washed over me. I am still eating when I am not hungry. It has lessened but sometimes when I feel the hunger (not really hungry) I just say to he-- with it, I just want to eat. What do I care, it never works... all those feelings come out. From a intellectual point of view it all seems rather silly. It's funny, when I worked in dialysis as a social worker, I had some patients who could get kidney transplants if they just lost weight. They never did. I always thought, what the heck, it could save your life, make your life easier- no 3x/week treatments. Yet they didn't. But you know, I get it. I am 300 pounds... have been for 10 years. I am good at maintaining, no? I am just like those patients I tried to talk to, to advise.  I will continue to listen to the podcasts and set my intent like you suggested.... thank you. ________________________________ To: " insideoutweightloss " <insideoutweightloss > Sent: Monday, August 6, 2012 11:58 PM Subject: Re: (unknown)  ((())) I know that hole. That emptiness inside, that you just what to fill with food. But if you eat one, it's not enough. So another. And another. And still the hole is there. And still you can't fill it. No matter how much peanut butter or cookies or cashews or hamburgers or ice cream or whatever you pour down your throat. And no matter how much you purge, it will not purge that feeling of emptiness. Putting your intent out there will help. But you have to state it in the positive. Your mind is crossing out the " nots " , and understanding that your intent is to restrict, to purge, to overexercise. What do you want instead? Is your intent to allow yourself to eat what your body needs, to retain it as long as your body needs to extract its nutritional value, and to exercise in a way that leaves you feeling comfortable and relaxed? Is your intent to find other ways to deal with the feelings? Sometimes when I start feeling myself getting all tied up in knots, it helps me to set an intent to find something to smile about at some easily-defined interval. Like every time I get up from my desk at work. It's amazing how many little things I can find. One of the advantages of this kind of intent is that it pulls my focus away from food and exercise--without saying " I will not think of food and exercise " . Maybe you can set your intent to find ways to make you feel good now. Whether it's listening to music or watching a sunset or doing deep breathing.... Sending you feelings of peace, >________________________________ > >To: insideoutweightloss >Sent: Monday, August 6, 2012 10:38 PM >Subject: (unknown) > > > >I am feeling so much anxiety in regards to food right now.  I am afraid nothing will ever be enough, that if I start eating I may never quit.  Realistically I am afraid I will eat and purge.  You know you are messed up with food when you say to yourself if you just eat this healthy portion right now on Saturday you can eat a jar of peanut butter and purge.  How crazy is that?  > >Anyway I am trying to just let this crawling anxiety be and not act out with food to numb it away.  I thought maybe just putting my intent out there to not restrict, not binge, not purge, not over exercise might give me some strength in this moment. > >Sent from my Samsung Epic™ 4G Touch > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 7, 2012 Report Share Posted August 7, 2012 Hi Please don't expect it to click. You can have breakthroughs, but mostly its about very gradual change. IF you are saying things have lessened, then this is fabulous. You may have learnt to deal with one of your triggers, but you may have others that need resolving. You have spent years building up coping mechansms around food (speaking for myself anyway), so you've got to knock those building blocks down - sometimes with a crash and sometimes chipping at them (not sure if a wall is a good metaphor or not). If you are happy (or happier) on the journey, then this makes it an enjoyable thing even if things take time Good luck Viv > > Love your advice and it is good to hear. I can't stand that feeling of a freight train running through my body, stopping long enough to eat and starting right back up again. All the while, an emptiness inside of me or a tension that screams at me- be it fear, anxiety, longing, anger, sadness... > > I wish something would click in me. I feel the change as a wave- I am learning but still the water has not washed over me. I am still eating when I am not hungry. It has lessened but sometimes when I feel the hunger (not really hungry) I just say to he-- with it, I just want to eat. What do I care, it never works... all those feelings come out. From a intellectual point of view it all seems rather silly. > > > It's funny, when I worked in dialysis as a social worker, I had some patients who could get kidney transplants if they just lost weight. They never did. I always thought, what the heck, it could save your life, make your life easier- no 3x/week treatments. Yet they didn't. But you know, I get it. I am 300 pounds... have been for 10 years. I am good at maintaining, no? I am just like those patients I tried to talk to, to advise.  > > I will continue to listen to the podcasts and set my intent like you suggested.... thank you. > > > > ________________________________ > > To: " insideoutweightloss " <insideoutweightloss > > Sent: Monday, August 6, 2012 11:58 PM > Subject: Re: (unknown) > > >  > ((())) > > I know that hole. That emptiness inside, that you just what to fill with food. But if you eat one, it's not enough. So another. And another. And still the hole is there. And still you can't fill it. No matter how much peanut butter or cookies or cashews or hamburgers or ice cream or whatever you pour down your throat. And no matter how much you purge, it will not purge that feeling of emptiness. > > Putting your intent out there will help. But you have to state it in the positive. > > Your mind is crossing out the " nots " , and understanding that your intent is to restrict, to purge, to overexercise. > > What do you want instead? > > Is your intent to allow yourself to eat what your body needs, to retain it as long as your body needs to extract its nutritional value, and to exercise in a way that leaves you feeling comfortable and relaxed? Is your intent to find other ways to deal with the feelings? > > Sometimes when I start feeling myself getting all tied up in knots, it helps me to set an intent to find something to smile about at some easily-defined interval. Like every time I get up from my desk at work. It's amazing how many little things I can find. One of the advantages of this kind of intent is that it pulls my focus away from food and exercise--without saying " I will not think of food and exercise " . > > Maybe you can set your intent to find ways to make you feel good now. Whether it's listening to music or watching a sunset or doing deep breathing.... > > Sending you feelings of peace, > > > >________________________________ > > > >To: insideoutweightloss > >Sent: Monday, August 6, 2012 10:38 PM > >Subject: (unknown) > > > > > > > >I am feeling so much anxiety in regards to food right now.  I am afraid nothing will ever be enough, that if I start eating I may never quit.  Realistically I am afraid I will eat and purge.  You know you are messed up with food when you say to yourself if you just eat this healthy portion right now on Saturday you can eat a jar of peanut butter and purge.  How crazy is that?  > > > >Anyway I am trying to just let this crawling anxiety be and not act out with food to numb it away.  I thought maybe just putting my intent out there to not restrict, not binge, not purge, not over exercise might give me some strength in this moment. > > > >Sent from my Samsung Epic™ 4G Touch > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 7, 2012 Report Share Posted August 7, 2012 Lori Ann and ,  I so understand the freight train metaphor. I also know that when I do eat healthy portions on a regular basis for a long while and my weight is in a healthy zone, the freight train does not feel so pressing. But getting to that zone... at times it feels like the train has not only gained momentum it is coming at me with 100 more cars attached and across a bridge with no place to escape and it feels like the only choice is to jump on and go with it even if it is headed to an unhealthy place I do not want to go.  , I appreciate the insight. Changing up the intent is a very good idea. I might say too that it did help posting yesterday I think it created a bit more of a pause so that I could choose a different track than the one with the freight train. In addition, I did a bit of visualization of how I wanted to feel last night (I had a party and knew there would be a lot of food present and that it was not food that I would feel comfortable eating) and saw myself eating a healthy portion and feeling at ease, enjoying the kids and playing games being entirely present to that experience. It helped and I got through the night without purging, binging or restricting.  Today I intend to eat in a way that provides adequate energy to my strong, vital body.  Livingston ________________________________ To: " insideoutweightloss " <insideoutweightloss > Sent: Tuesday, August 7, 2012 5:51 AM Subject: Re: (unknown)  Love your advice and it is good to hear. I can't stand that feeling of a freight train running through my body, stopping long enough to eat and starting right back up again. All the while, an emptiness inside of me or a tension that screams at me- be it fear, anxiety, longing, anger, sadness... I wish something would click in me. I feel the change as a wave- I am learning but still the water has not washed over me. I am still eating when I am not hungry. It has lessened but sometimes when I feel the hunger (not really hungry) I just say to he-- with it, I just want to eat. What do I care, it never works... all those feelings come out. From a intellectual point of view it all seems rather silly. It's funny, when I worked in dialysis as a social worker, I had some patients who could get kidney transplants if they just lost weight. They never did. I always thought, what the heck, it could save your life, make your life easier- no 3x/week treatments. Yet they didn't. But you know, I get it. I am 300 pounds... have been for 10 years. I am good at maintaining, no? I am just like those patients I tried to talk to, to advise.  I will continue to listen to the podcasts and set my intent like you suggested.... thank you. ________________________________ From: <mailto:lsageev%40yahoo.com> To: " mailto:insideoutweightloss%40yahoogroups.com " <mailto:insideoutweightloss%40yahoogroups.com> Sent: Monday, August 6, 2012 11:58 PM Subject: Re: (unknown)  ((())) I know that hole. That emptiness inside, that you just what to fill with food. But if you eat one, it's not enough. So another. And another. And still the hole is there. And still you can't fill it. No matter how much peanut butter or cookies or cashews or hamburgers or ice cream or whatever you pour down your throat. And no matter how much you purge, it will not purge that feeling of emptiness. Putting your intent out there will help. But you have to state it in the positive. Your mind is crossing out the " nots " , and understanding that your intent is to restrict, to purge, to overexercise. What do you want instead? Is your intent to allow yourself to eat what your body needs, to retain it as long as your body needs to extract its nutritional value, and to exercise in a way that leaves you feeling comfortable and relaxed? Is your intent to find other ways to deal with the feelings? Sometimes when I start feeling myself getting all tied up in knots, it helps me to set an intent to find something to smile about at some easily-defined interval. Like every time I get up from my desk at work. It's amazing how many little things I can find. One of the advantages of this kind of intent is that it pulls my focus away from food and exercise--without saying " I will not think of food and exercise " . Maybe you can set your intent to find ways to make you feel good now. Whether it's listening to music or watching a sunset or doing deep breathing.... Sending you feelings of peace, >________________________________ > From: pl <mailto:jenniferpl%40yahoo.com> >To: mailto:insideoutweightloss%40yahoogroups.com >Sent: Monday, August 6, 2012 10:38 PM >Subject: (unknown) > > > >I am feeling so much anxiety in regards to food right now.  I am afraid nothing will ever be enough, that if I start eating I may never quit.  Realistically I am afraid I will eat and purge.  You know you are messed up with food when you say to yourself if you just eat this healthy portion right now on Saturday you can eat a jar of peanut butter and purge.  How crazy is that?  > >Anyway I am trying to just let this crawling anxiety be and not act out with food to numb it away.  I thought maybe just putting my intent out there to not restrict, not binge, not purge, not over exercise might give me some strength in this moment. > >Sent from my Samsung Epic™ 4G Touch > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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