pets

[Guest guest]

When he is done training he should be able to get the portable phone, turn off and on lights, stay by me no matter what the temptation (unless medical personal are trying to reach me), go to the grocery store and reach items that I am not able to bend over and reach etc. He should be trained to do the things I find difficult.

Hugs to all

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[Guest guest]

<<When he is done training he should be able to get the portable phone, turn off and on lights, stay by me no matter what the temptation (unless medical personal are trying to reach me), go to the grocery store and reach items that I am not able to bend over and reach etc. He should be trained to do the things I find difficult.>>

Sounds great! All the best to the training!

Ling

[Guest guest]

cute...lil puppy!!!!!

Tulips wrote:

Hi

Gang,

Seeing

so much talk on pets, I can't resist but show off my dog - a Chihuahua,

my sweetest friend! Her name is Bunbun.

[Guest guest]

"My dog is slightly more than 1.5 year old. We just find the way she walks so cute! She seems to give that catwalk, shaking her BUTT as she walks. [Aisha? hehe]"

Heyyyyyyyy I saw that!

*frowns*

Watch out Ling .... I'll um ...um .... think of something one day!

LOL

*HUGS*Love ish.

[Guest guest]

<<"My dog is slightly more than 1.5 year old. We just find the way she walks so cute! She seems to give that catwalk, shaking her BUTT as she walks. [Aisha? hehe]"

Watch out Ling .... I'll um ...um .... think of something one day!>>

Come and get me! U cannot catch me [sung] I'm waiting! lol...

Seriously, how is everything with you? ok?

Hugs, Ling

[Guest guest]

Hi Amira :0)

I was just reading that hydrosols could be a better choice than eo's for

pets. Since they are not as strong, it also suggested making a flea collar

by sewing a band stuffed with herbs. (I didn't catch the beginning, so I am

assuming your talking about flea control) Reading that dogs can smell 150

times better than us, I'm wondering if the collar would be irritating to

them.

Speaking of animals, I have a dog who had a little chunk out of his nose

when we got him. I have no idea what happened but it must have hurt him a

lot. It almost looks like a big cat scratch. He has cream but won't sit

still long enough for us to put it on. (It's not infected, he's had it for

a long time, but seems dry and hasn't grown much skin over it) Would it be

safe to spray an oil or thin lotion on it, I am concerned that he will

breathe it in when I'm spraying.

Thanks :0)

Have a Great Day!

Janice

The SunShine Soap Co.

Canada

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 03/19/2001 4:51:12 PM Pacific Standard Time,

sunshinesoapco@... writes:

> . He has cream but won't sit

> still long enough for us to put it on. (It's not infected, he's had it for

> a long time, but seems dry and hasn't grown much skin over it) Would it be

> safe to spray an oil or thin lotion on it, I am concerned that he will

> breathe it in when I'm spraying.

>

>

Way behind in my reading! LOL

You might want to make a stroooooong tea with plantain leaves ... you can buy

them dried and boxed at a health food store ... or they grow wild in the yard

in the summer ... if you use them dried, just steep them quite a while

(longer the stronger) in water that has boiled (don't boil the herbs

however); if you pick them fresh from the yard, crush them well (method of

your choice, mashing between fingers, mortar & pestle, etc.), then drop them

into water and simmer few minutes (don't let it come to a boil; the oils will

evaporate) ... cool, then " wash " or " dab " onto your dogs cuts, etc. (any

kind) ... good for humans too! My mom died 4 years ago, but several years

before that, she had a spot on her shoulder that she couldn't heal. I made a

strong tea and instructed her to dab it onto the spot ... several times a day

.... well, within a few days, the spot was healed! Plantain is a wonderful

healing herb! In fact, you can pick a leaf, crush it between your fingers,

and rub it right onto a cut, bee sting, rash, etc. and it will start to work

immediately! I love it! Of course, if you know how, you could make an

" ointment " with this tea!

Amira

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[Guest guest]

Hi Amira :0)

I'm way behind in my reading too! I just got this. Funny I was just

talking about using plantain in soap today. I've seen it so many

times, used to play with the seeds when I was a kid and never had any

idea what it was. I can't wait until this summer to see how much of

it is around, I think we have a fair bit.

Anyway, the tea sounds like a great idea, I'm still thinking about

spraying it on, he really won't hold still at all and I can't hold

him, it's very tender. But if he was to get a bit of tea up his

nose, I don't think it would hurt him. I may try a dropper, but I'd

be afraid he's land up with it UP his nose :0))

Great idea!

Thanks,

Janice

The SunShine Soap Co.

Canada

[Guest guest]

Hi,

I saw the note about dogs and the scents. My dogs just love to lick off my

legs a " nutty " scented lotion I may use on them. Once I had a tub of the

Nutty Butter from The Body Shops and I caught my cocker trying to eat the

stuff! So I know I must keep that one closed around him!

Cate

[Guest guest]

Diane, that is hilarious about your friends dogs wanting to have their

" treat " . I have the same problem with my cats, I don't know what it is but

as soon as I put my lotion on they're right there wanting to lick it

off-must be careful. Laughs-in-lotion-making!! Cheers, Sandy

[Guest guest]

Yes Loriann ,

This was discussed while you were out . It was during the beginning

of Aug. , on service dogs . My sons Ped. doctor had asked if we had

ever considered getting a dog for , also at the same time my

husband brought it up , when a co-worker told him about a service dog

for special need children . This is my husbands job on this subject ,

until we get one for . But, your story is just beautiful how

reacted towards the dog . Yes , I agree its time for a dog .

Take care.

Irma , 13 , DS/ASD.

> I know we haven't discussed this in a long time (unless you all did

while I was gone), but I just had to share this.

>

> My mother-in-law just got a dog from an older lady in our church.

The lady (Deloris) has terminal cancer. The ladies in our church

have taken to sitting with her 2 days a week to give the daughter a

break. When MIL sat with her, she had a good time playing with Inky

(the dog - terrier mix) and Deloris asked if she would take her when

it was time for her to go see the Lord (Deloris has a great attitude

about all this). Deloris decided to part with Inky a bit early, as

her husband is very fond of the dog, but had a stroke and when

Deloris is gone, he'll have to go to a nursing home. She didn't want

him to have to get used to not having Inky at the same time he goes

to the home.

>

> BUT, the cute part is 's reactions. Every time we go over

there, he'll sit on the couch and pet her real gently, and then look

up at who ever happens to be in the room and say, " It likes me! " like

he's shocked she does. " It " because he still has problems with

pronouns. They he'll turn to Grandma and say, " Ca' I borrow it? " I

think it may be time to get a dog..... Especially since my mom just

had to put her dog down, probably due to cancer. loved

Buttons, but she tolerated him (as she did all kids). This way, when

we go down for the day or a bit more, we can bring ours down to play

in the acre yard.

>

> Well, babbled long enough.

>

>

> Loriann

>

> Wife to Dewight

> Mom to , 11 years, Down Syndrome, PDD-NOS, and wheat allergy

> And , 2 years and strong-willed

> Both homeschooled

>

>

>

>

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[Guest guest]

In a message dated 9/3/01 12:16:57 AM Central Daylight Time, DeeCGann@... writes:

Subj: Pets

Date: 9/3/01 12:16:57 AM Central Daylight Time

From: DeeCGann@... (Deanna )

Reply-to: Autism_in_Girls

Autism_in_Girls

Hi! I was wondering about everybodies furry, finned and feathered friends. I was also wondering how your autistic kids react to their pets.

Well, Deanna, we have a cat. At first, for the longest time, simply ignored him. Now,she will actually take the time to pet him and say "cat".

I've tried to tell her his name is "me-new", but she just looks at me and says "cat". Our cat also has an attitude and I really have to watch because he will try to nip at her. Even the times when he has nipped or scratched has not stopped her from wanting to pet him. He is very attuned to her moods and when she is upset (which used to lead to bad tantrums), he hides until the "coast is clear". Pretty smart cat!

Vickie

[Guest guest]

Deanna,

It took us a long time to decide on a pet, we were unsure how would

cope with any " competition " for our affection.

But about 3 months ago we decided to get a hamster. We went to the local

RSPCA to see if they had any, but they only had gerbils. Just out of

curiosity we looked round the rabbits (but hey, we wanted an indoor pet).

We all fell immediately in love with a one and a half-eared rabbit. The

RSPCA officer explained that rabbits can be indoor pets, so we jumped in

with both feet and took him.

Barney Bunny Esquire is now a central part of all our lives. Initially

had problems knowing how tight/loose to hold him, but now she

strokes and cuddles him all the time, and he doesn't object to her picking

him up.

Barney even comes when called, and has free-roam of the house. He is house

trained except for one thing - we cannot let him jump onto the sofa or he

" wees " (scents it). This has taught some responsibility and she

ensures she blocks the sofa if she leaves the room (all the wires are

Barney-proofed too),

has also learned a lot about sharing, and although she was jealous

at first ( " who do you love most, me or Barney? " ) she now loves our rabbit to

bits (as do we all).

I can't stress how important I believe it is for everyone (not just kids) to

have a pet in their lives.

Debbie

[Guest guest]

Jacqui loves animals! As long as they don't move too quickly or sit still too

long.

We have an 11 year old Beagle/bassett who is very tolerant. Jacqui plays with

him sometimes, but really could care less. He's like a fixture.

We used to have cats. She likes cats too, but it was the same thing...Really

no " emotion " about it.

We also have a fish which she cares little about.

Does that answer your question?

We all live in blissful harmony :-)

Penny-------------------------------------------------------- " Just remember this: Plenty of Horsepower, No Traction " - R. S. on

" If a man does not keep pace with his companions, perhaps it is because he hears a different drummer.Let him step to the music he hears, however measured or far away. " --Henry Thoreau

[Guest guest]

Hi Deanna

We have two cats and a 1 year old puppy. Until last year we had a

dog that was a springer spaniel/shepherd cross. He was a large dog and

I had him since he was 8 weeks old. He was 16 last year when he passed

away. . I had him before I was married and before either of my girls.

Both the girls grew up with him. Skylar pretty much just thought of him

as a fixture, he was something that was just there.

We got our new pup last fall. She is a small dog, a Lhapso

Apso/Poodle cross. That seemed to be when Sky took a notice to all the

animals, cats included. She now loves to pet them, & play with them.

She loves to take Sable for a walk. I don't know if it was because

Tyler was too old to play or just because Skylar has matured more, but

for whatever the reason she has now taken an interest in the pets and

loves them.

Tracey

Deanna wrote:

> Hi! I was wondering about everybodies furry, finned and feathered

> friends. I was also wondering how your autistic kids react to their

> pets. We just got a new puppy, she is half-Rott. and half-Mastiff,

> her name is Maisie. We have an 8.5 year old Border Collie named

> Jack. Bridget's response to Maisie has been wonderful to watch, she

> thinks Maisie is adorable and small! Jack is large for a Border

> Collie and has never learned not to jump. He jumps with all four

> feet off the ground, he also licks and dorks people with his nose.

> He herds anything that moves, complete with the occasional ankle

> nipping! The kids like Jack and I feel sorry for him because he

> actually likes to be with the family unlike alot of BC's who are one

> person dogs. My hope is that as Bridget sees Maisie grow and learns

> how to take care of her and help train her that her size won't be an

> issue, because she will be a big dog. We've had this pup 2 days and

> have already had her to the vet. Bridget was really worried because

> the last animal we took to the vet, her beloved Chomper(cat), did not

> come home. She really had me clarify why Maisie was going and that

> she was going to come home after the vet and before we left she asked

> me where her puppy was and I had to show her that she was in the box

> before we could go! We do have a new cat, named Banjo, that we have

> had for a couple of months. I think Banjo is a neat cat but she has

> an attitude and the kids need to be careful around her. She does not

> like dogs. She had gotten fairly used to Jack and since Maisie

> arrived I think she has decided she is outnumbered and isn't quite as

> snotty. Anyway, just curious...Deanna

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Pets are a very important part of our lives too. We currently have Blue, a

black lab, Aunt Bea, a bunny, and a fish pond.

We had a golden retriever named Lady for ten years. She got cancer and died

when Grace was about six. She had seen a pet funeral on tv and decided that

we needed to have one. She kept bugging us about the arrangements, flowers,

and a prayer service.

So the next day, I got flowers from the grocery store, my husband dug the

hole (we live in the country), and we buried her. It was raining, so we wore

our raincoats. Grace made us stand in a circle around the grave site and we

recited the Lord's Prayer. Then she announced that we all had to say

something about Lady that we loved about her. I was sobbing through the

whole thing and choked out my thoughts. Then we tossed our flowers on her

grave. Then we marched single file away from the gravesite, till we got

about halfway through the yard and she announced that it was time to swing on

the swingset. And that was her pet funeral.

After a few years passed, she announced it was time to get a replacement, so

we got Blue. He sleeps with her at night time when her big sister is away at

college at the bottom of her bed. He sits with the kids while they watch tv

and waites patiently for hand outs of snacks and waits for the girls to get

home from school at the front door.

Pets are members of our family and everyone has some responsibility with the

pets. I think pets make us all better humans.

----------------------------

Will There Be Refreshments?

[Guest guest]

When our daughter was younger, she was TERRIFIED of all animals. It became

a problem even to take a walk, because if a dog barked from a fenced in

area, she became hysterical. Her counselor advised us to get a puppy - so

we did. At first, Jenn would climb up on back of the couch everytime she

saw the puppy coming into the room. After a period of time, she just stood

on the couch; then she would pull her legs up. Little by little she took

more steps towards the dog and now, after 5 years, she accepts her as one of

the family. She still isn't to the point where she would go up and pet her,

but when we were on vacation, she stated that she missed Nikki. We couldn't

have got a more placid dog and she is great when Jenn yells at her, she just

looks at her and walks away. This has also helped Jenn with all other

animals. Hopefully next summer we will be able to get her to get on a

horse. Betty Lou (Mother of Jenn - 13)

Re: Pets

> Pets are a very important part of our lives too. We currently have Blue,

a

> black lab, Aunt Bea, a bunny, and a fish pond.

>

> We had a golden retriever named Lady for ten years. She got cancer and

died

> when Grace was about six. She had seen a pet funeral on tv and decided

that

> we needed to have one. She kept bugging us about the arrangements,

flowers,

> and a prayer service.

>

> So the next day, I got flowers from the grocery store, my husband dug the

> hole (we live in the country), and we buried her. It was raining, so we

wore

> our raincoats. Grace made us stand in a circle around the grave site and

we

> recited the Lord's Prayer. Then she announced that we all had to say

> something about Lady that we loved about her. I was sobbing through the

> whole thing and choked out my thoughts. Then we tossed our flowers on her

> grave. Then we marched single file away from the gravesite, till we got

> about halfway through the yard and she announced that it was time to swing

on

> the swingset. And that was her pet funeral.

>

> After a few years passed, she announced it was time to get a replacement,

so

> we got Blue. He sleeps with her at night time when her big sister is away

at

> college at the bottom of her bed. He sits with the kids while they watch

tv

> and waites patiently for hand outs of snacks and waits for the girls to

get

> home from school at the front door.

>

> Pets are members of our family and everyone has some responsibility with

the

> pets. I think pets make us all better humans.

>

> ----------------------------

> Will There Be Refreshments?

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Kathy,

Dogs have Fleas and unless they are bathed on a regular basis are also subject to Mites. Dogs also get just about any kind of intestinal worm that you can imagine.

At the present time I myself have a dog, however Dr. Hulda maintains that people with a history of Seizures are better off without any pets.

Take Care,

Sharon

[ ] Fw: pet, b-19 and transmission?

[Guest guest]

~~

It's nice to see that other folks get to enjoy their pets as much as I do mine. We had to make a little trip to the vet today to get some flea medicine. Tried the drops from the grocery store first but it didn't do the trick. Murphee wasn't too happy with the trip to the vet, but she didn't do too badly. She was friendly with me when we got home which was a good sign that she didn't hold it against me too bad. Let's see how she does next month when she has to go in for the spaying appointment...Pet Kitty Boy and Rooty Tooty for me.

Sizer wrote:

Hi, ,

Ah, yes, the planet ruled by animals -- or at least my household. We got our Kitty Boy from the local humane society when he was a couple of months old. He's part Siamese and something else (calico: is that a breed?). Very affectionate for a kitty, but a scrapper with other cats (we've taken him to the vet several times for 'battle wounds.) He's smaller than most of the cats in the neighborhood. You'd think that would stop him but he's a feisty little cuss.

>an orange cat with dark orange stripes and really has brought joy in to my life.<

Amen to that. They certainly win a place in your heart, don't they?

Neither Kitty Boy or Rooty Tooty (black lab-boxer) are enjoying the hot, muggy weather. Kitty Boy threw up this a.m. which he doesn't do often. It's either the heat or a routine hair ball.

>My mother cooks her chicken every day for lunch which she grinds up in the food processor and sprinkles with cheese.<

And I thought ours were spoiled rotten! That's a little over the top but, hey, she's your mom, right?

Take care,

[Guest guest]

>Murphee wasn't too happy with the trip to the vet, but she didn't do too badly.<

Know what you mean. Does she whine pathetically when you take her in the car like mine does? Kitty Boy is much more attached to my wife. He'll sit on my lap, but will only let her pick him up so he can drape himself over her shoulder. As for Rooty, he's more attached to me. Guess he's a 'man's dog' or maybe it's just because I spoil him more. He has been a great comfort to me as I deal with this illness, as I'm sure Murphee has been to you.

Take care,

[Guest guest]

~~

It is sooooo true that these animals give us unconditional love at a time when we can use a lot of that! Murphee wants her daily snuggles and her kitten time to play then she'll be back for more snuggles later. When I'm distressed with this disease a few snuggles from her go a long way in keeping depression away. I thank God for Murphee.

And yes, she did all the tantrum howling including the pathetic whine until we got in the van and were actually move. Then it seemed to slowly be reduced to a anemic whimper. Then just the nose stuck out the hole with heavy breathing. The whole process is really just a demeaning procedure for her with there being exactly no rational reason who us Human Creatures should do this to them! And we know that sometime parents/pet owners have to do what's best in the big picture. So we do what we gotta do.

Glad you and your wife have a pet that favors each of you. Its more balanced that way. Warm Regards,

Sizer wrote:

>Murphee wasn't too happy with the trip to the vet, but she didn't do too badly.<

Know what you mean. Does she whine pathetically when you take her in the car like mine does? Kitty Boy is much more attached to my wife. He'll sit on my lap, but will only let her pick him up so he can drape himself over her shoulder. As for Rooty, he's more attached to me. Guess he's a 'man's dog' or maybe it's just because I spoil him more. He has been a great comfort to me as I deal with this illness, as I'm sure Murphee has been to you.

Take care,

[Guest guest]

I don't know about cats, but our dogs know when we are down or not feeling well. They are always trying to cheer us up at those times. We got our first dog "Susy's Midget" shortly after we lost Susy's Dad. She realy helped Suzy through that time. I told Susy after our Vaction we will get another Dog to replace Midget. But I don't thank I will replace my Dr Pepper when something happens to him & Mom mostly likely wont replace Teddy if he goes first.

Terry

M B wrote:

~~ It is sooooo true that these animals give us unconditional love at a time when we can use a lot of that! Murphee wants her daily snuggles and her kitten time to play then she'll be back for more snuggles later. When I'm distressed with this disease a few snuggles from her go a long way in keeping depression away. I thank God for Murphee. And yes, she did all the tantrum howling including the pathetic whine until we got in the van and were actually move. Then it seemed to slowly be reduced to a anemic whimper. Then just the nose stuck out the hole with heavy breathing. The whole process is really just a demeaning procedure for her with there being exactly no rational reason who us Human Creatures should do this to them! And we know that sometime parents/pet owners have to do what's best in the big picture. So we do what we gotta do. Glad you and your wife have a pet that favors each of you. Its more balanced that way. Warm Regards, Sizer wrote:

>Murphee wasn't too happy with the trip to the vet, but she didn't do too badly.<

Know what you mean. Does she whine pathetically when you take her in the car like mine does? Kitty Boy is much more attached to my wife. He'll sit on my lap, but will only let her pick him up so he can drape himself over her shoulder. As for Rooty, he's more attached to me. Guess he's a 'man's dog' or maybe it's just because I spoil him more. He has been a great comfort to me as I deal with this illness, as I'm sure Murphee has been to you.

Take care,

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 11/29/2003 10:46:43 AM Eastern Standard Time,

ssamuelhart@... writes:

I want to share one thing I've done to help my 10 yoa student (who has

Aspergers). I've introduced him to my dog. I have a old, gentle, mixed-breed

dog,

about 20 pounds. Since my student has poor social skills with humans, I

figured he may have better luck with my dog. By the way, the only pets he has

had

are a turtle and a parakeet.

We have regular farm here, my son when he ws younger about age 4

was very afraid of dogs, so when he turned 5 we adopted a Golden Ret. and it

was the best experience he loved that dog. We just adopted another dog, now and

we have 3 cats so he is an animal lover just like his mom.

[Guest guest]

Thanks for sharing, SHart. That sounds like it's been a wonderful experience

for your student, something of a " breakthrough " , no? We had a dog last summer

and had to give her to another family, because my son (then 5) is really curious

and rough, and kept hurting her no matter how much we taught him not to. He

really doesn't have a very good grasp of " other people's feelings " , much less

another animal. And I couldn't supervise him 24/7 in a 4 bedroom house, so the

puppy had to go to another family. He's been begging me for a hamster, but I

think that's a terrible idea and have been stalling. We used to have an

aquarium and a parakeet, and he did a pretty good job of feeding them regularly,

but that's different than interacting with a warm mammal.

( ) Pets

Hi. I was a little hasty leaving the group. I'm back. Thanks.

I want to share one thing I've done to help my 10 yoa student (who has

Aspergers). I've introduced him to my dog. I have a old, gentle, mixed-breed

dog, about 20 pounds. Since my student has poor social skills with humans, I

figured he may have better luck with my dog. By the way, the only pets he has

had are a turtle and a parakeet.

At first, just getting him to pet my dog was a challenge, but, eventually

he started to pet her, hold her, show her some affection, and have fun with her.

He and I take her for walks. It's a big deal when gets to hold the leash. He

cried when I left with her the first time. He even wrote a story about her. In

other words, it has been a positive thing all around.

S. Hart

[Guest guest]

,

About the hamster, we have one but my son has very little interaction with the

poor animal. i do all the cleaning (they are very nasty animals) and feeding.

and nathaniel only wants to touch him on an occasional basis.

laura

" L. " <andrea@...> wrote:

Thanks for sharing, SHart. That sounds like it's been a wonderful experience

for your student, something of a " breakthrough " , no? We had a dog last summer

and had to give her to another family, because my son (then 5) is really curious

and rough, and kept hurting her no matter how much we taught him not to. He

really doesn't have a very good grasp of " other people's feelings " , much less

another animal. And I couldn't supervise him 24/7 in a 4 bedroom house, so the

puppy had to go to another family. He's been begging me for a hamster, but I

think that's a terrible idea and have been stalling. We used to have an

aquarium and a parakeet, and he did a pretty good job of feeding them regularly,

but that's different than interacting with a warm mammal.

( ) Pets

Hi. I was a little hasty leaving the group. I'm back. Thanks.

I want to share one thing I've done to help my 10 yoa student (who has

Aspergers). I've introduced him to my dog. I have a old, gentle, mixed-breed

dog, about 20 pounds. Since my student has poor social skills with humans, I

figured he may have better luck with my dog. By the way, the only pets he has

had are a turtle and a parakeet.

At first, just getting him to pet my dog was a challenge, but, eventually

he started to pet her, hold her, show her some affection, and have fun with her.

He and I take her for walks. It's a big deal when gets to hold the leash. He

cried when I left with her the first time. He even wrote a story about her. In

other words, it has been a positive thing all around.

S. Hart