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[Guest guest]

LOL she has you measuring portions. Hey Pat, I think we got us an ADA dietician

she is seeing here. Did she tell you, for example, how many carbs are in the 2

table spoons. Heck no she didn't! This gal has you eating crap food, high carb

foods, and measuring portions. It is all about how many carb grams are in the

food Theresa it is that simple.

Regards,

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> > > > > > > my last a1c was 11. ? how long does it take for sugars to

get

> > back

> > > > to

> > > > > > normal before one does that blood sugars test again?

> > > > > > > Best regards,

> > > > > > > Bonnecarre

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[Guest guest]

well, if you can run an a1c of 5.0 to 5.5 following that advice then go for it.

Right now you are at an a1c of 11 and following that medical advice of balancing

your carbs would put you at an a1c of 7. Ask that doctor if he thinks an a1c of

7 is good. If he says yes,then get the crap away from him and find a doctor that

will teach you low carb treatment and tell you that you have to run an a1c of

5.0.

Regards,

's time

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> > > > > > my last a1c was 11. ? how long does it take for sugars to get

> back

> > > to

> > > > > normal before one does that blood sugars test again?

> > > > > > Best regards,

> > > > > > Bonnecarre

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

[Guest guest]

my advice it to not eat cereal of any kind. for one thing, you have to add

milk and this makes the carb go up. you can eat some thing different for

breakfast and eat more and use less carbs.

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> > > > > > my last a1c was 11. ? how long does it take for sugars to

get

> back

> > > to

> > > > > normal before one does that blood sugars test again?

> > > > > > Best regards,

> > > > > > Bonnecarre

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

[Guest guest]

I have found that most of the people who claim to know how you should eat,

doesn't have a clue. for the most part, they aren't diabetic and only know

what they learned in school. you have to be the judge of what you can eat

and when you can eat it. these guys on this list have been doing this carb

counting thing for a long time. they know what will make you feel bad and

make your sugar go up. I would listen to them and not the diet doctor.

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> get

> > > back

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> > > > > > > normal before one does that blood sugars test again?

> > > > > > > > Best regards,

> > > > > > > > Bonnecarre

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[Guest guest]

of what use is brand? where'ds that fall on the food chain?

Have''' a nice day.

and stay away from girls who serve French champagne!

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> get

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> > > > to

> > > > > > normal before one does that blood sugars test again?

> > > > > > > Best regards,

> > > > > > > Bonnecarre

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[Guest guest]

I agree with !

The dietitian is following the ADA American Diabetes Association diet

recommendations, and this will prove to be bad for you. Just ask .

As I recall, by following the ADA diet recommendations , a type 1

diabetic, was classified as a brittle diabetic and he eventually went blind

of diabetic complication caused by consuming too many carbohydrates. So

listen to the so-called professionals who are paid to give you bad advice or

listen to the real experts, who live with this disease day in and day out.

When one goes into battle, you have to ask yourself, do I want to go into

the battle with a novice, a new recruit or a battle-tried veteran. I

believe the wiser course is to go with the veteran.

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> pitch that darn diatician. The more I read your posts the more I get fired

up at that advice you are given *smile*. Tropicana light... lol that has 40

grams of carbs in a 1/2 cup. And you are only to eat 15 to 30 grams per

meal. You have to keep asking questions here Theresa and listen to what we

are telling you. We have been in this long term and know what works.

>

> Just keep asking questions, we are here to help.

>

>

> Regards,

>

[Guest guest]

Bran is the broken husk of cereal grains like wheat and corn. Bran is a

fiber. To calculate net grams or net carbs take the total grams carbs minus

the grams of fiber. For instance if you pick a food that has 10 grams of

total carbohydrates and it contains 6 grams of fiber, the net carbs is

reported as 4 grams of net carbs. Fiber is important for avoiding that

dreaded thing called constipation, ouch!, that hurts.

<smile>

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> > > > > > > normal before one does that blood sugars test again?

> > > > > > > > Best regards,

> > > > > > > > Bonnecarre

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[Guest guest]

Wow! Hey Harry/pat... doesn't Mark fit in perfectly here on list? He is such a

good fit I can hardly stand it. Welcome Mark and keep contributing to the

list... you have a lot of valuable input here. Thanks for contributing and keep

it coming!

Yup, most dieticians don't have a clue hands on what is up with diabetes. My own

brother is a recent (8 year old practising) registered dietician and was taught

this crap so I've helped him out *wink*. They are taught from text books what a

diabetic should eat and most text books teach you to eat a high carbohydrate

diet, low meat, and low fat. The old 1970 reason for this school of thought is

that meat causes kidney damage to diabetics, no longer true in modern research,

and that fat causes strokes in diabetics, no longer true in modern research.

Just read Dr. Bernstein's diabetes solution revised book... he is a type 1

diabetic for 60 years and is a medical doctor and has 0 diabetic complications.

How? Simple, he only eats 30 grams of carbs a day. I can't eat only 30 but my

point being... most docs/diaticians are offering lame outdated 1970 diabetic

tools and diets to fight the disease via an ADA portion control diet that is

high carbs, low meat, low fat. You ever hear your diatician say eat 2 meats for

breakfast, 1 starch, run the crap away from them they are using 1970 tools to

help you fight the disease and that outdated treatment plans will kill you!

however, if you hear your diatician or doctor say you have to focus on

carbohydrates and limit them to 60 or 90 a day, then bingo! You got yourself a

modern schooled diatician that knows his/her stuff and will help save your life!

So the ADA says pack the diabetic full of carbs LOL and why? Because meat causes

kidney damage and fat causes strokes. Not true... high blood sugar causes kidney

damage and heart attacks, not meat and fat! The high sugar in yoru blood eats

away at your eyes, kidneys, legs, heart, etc. Come on! Think of it... you have

high sugar in your blood and that is not going to do anything to your body over

time? High sugar in your blood is not going to do anything? A foreign substance

in your blood is not going to do any damage to your body? Normal humans /

non-diabetics run an average blood sugar of 80 and it is ok to run a sugar of

130 to 150?

Theresa you will never get an a1c reading of 5.0 to 5.5 if you follow the advice

you are being offered via those uneducated medical staff. Not only that, lets be

frank here folks, if you are low income and require a medical doctor, do you

think they would refer you to a modern doctor such as Dr. Bernstein to help you

with modern tools and techniques? No, they are going to refer you to lame

doctors who take medicade and are uneducated, for the most part, on modern

diabetic treatment.

I'm sorry for sounding harsh, it is not you Theresa, it is the medical doctors

and staff that frustrate me since I been there done that and know my stuff.

These doctors toss you on oral meds or insulin and say a blood sugar of 150 is

ok and see you in 1 month. They even go as far to say that an a1c reading of 7

is fine. Tell you what Theresa, if you run an a1c of 7 for long, just ask Harry

what will happen... stroke! You have to trust us that we know what we are

talking about. I am picking up on that you think just because a person says they

are a doctor or diatician that they no best. Wrong. They don't. And how can I

prove this? Simple, I run an a1c level of 5.3 as a type 1 diabetic. Harry runs

an a1c of 5.3 as a type 2 diabetic. Pat runs an a1c of 5.5 as a type 1 diabetic.

Let me see you or anyone else run an a1c level like that following your current

doctors/diaticians advice. It won't happen. We know our stuff.

Regards,

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> > > > > > > > my last a1c was 11. ? how long does it take for sugars

to

> get

> > > back

> > > > > to

> > > > > > > normal before one does that blood sugars test again?

> > > > > > > > Best regards,

> > > > > > > > Bonnecarre

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[Guest guest]

I agree with , Theresa. this dietician is gving you too many carbs

for your diabetes. As you are not on insulin, you can not give yourself

extra insulin to cover the carbs, so you need to eat as few carbs as

possible to keep your BS in contorl and get that A1C down to at least a 6 or

less.

Re: 's time

LOL she has you measuring portions. Hey Pat, I think we got us an ADA

dietician she is seeing here. Did she tell you, for example, how many carbs

are in the 2 table spoons. Heck no she didn't! This gal has you eating crap

food, high carb foods, and measuring portions. It is all about how many carb

grams are in the food Theresa it is that simple.

Regards,

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> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > my last a1c was 11. ? how long does it take for sugars to

get

> > back

> > > > to

> > > > > > normal before one does that blood sugars test again?

> > > > > > > Best regards,

> > > > > > > Bonnecarre

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

[Guest guest]

mark, You are really correct about the amount of food anyone should eat. If

you cut down on carbs, but increase the amount of protein to eaqual the

amount of total calories, you will still not lose weight. so, you need to

cut down on carbs and not increase the fat and protein either.

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I personally have found that most of the doctors don't know much about the

Atkins diet. I my self have found the diet to be helpful for me to loose

weight and control my blood sugar. it is true, that the Atkins diet is

mostly protein, but you don't need to go crazy dating all you wish to eat.

every thing in moderation of course. I believe that most diabetic clinics

tell you to eat to many carbs. I tried there diet that they put me on when I

first found out I was diabetic, it didn't work for me. plus I had a hard

time loosing weight. then a friend of mind, who is a type one diabetic, told

me about the Atkins diet helping her to loose weight and control her sugar.

so I gave it a try. she said that she had to tweak it a little bit in order

for it to work for her. she doesn't eat as much meat as the diet calls for.

but she does stay away from the bad carbs. I at first, also told my doctor I

was on the Atkins diet, he wasn't impressed and told me not to do that diet.

now I just keep it to my self that I am on the diet. when I go in for a

check up, he always makes the comment, you are sure doing good with your

diet, you are loosing weight slowly and not real fast. like and diet, you

might need to change it up a bit to fit your own needs. I believe you could

make the Atkins diet work for you and enjoy it as well. call the national

Braille press and order, the Atkins carbohydrate gram counter, it is in

Braille and only cost five dollars. it will help you a lot, even if you

don't do the Atkins diet, it will still help you to make good decisions when

you eat carbs.

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> > > > > > > my last a1c was 11. ? how long does it take for sugars to

get

> > back

> > > > to

> > > > > > normal before one does that blood sugars test again?

> > > > > > > Best regards,

> > > > > > > Bonnecarre

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

[Guest guest]

Theresa, You do need some carbs-we all do. However, the amount recommended

by the American Diabetes Assoc. is toomuch for most diabetics. the more

exercise you do, the more carbs you need. If you do not do much in the way

of exercise, the fewer carbs you need. also, if you need to lose weight, you

need fewer carbs even if yo are exerciseing.

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I was told that the " Atkins diet " is not for me. one Dr. says it has too

much protein for me and another says I need the carbs in my diet but

balanced in my diet.

Best regards,

Bonnecarre

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> > > > > > my last a1c was 11. ? how long does it take for sugars to get

> back

> > > to

> > > > > normal before one does that blood sugars test again?

> > > > > > Best regards,

> > > > > > Bonnecarre

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[Guest guest]

Theoretically, we can get all the carbs we need from meats,fish,poultry,

cheeses, nuts, eggs,and vegetables, but if you only eat these items you will

probably have to lower your medications, which are designed to handle

carbohydrate cosumption for food eaten like bread, cereal and other high

carb containing foods.

RE: 's time

> Theresa, You do need some carbs-we all do. However, the amount

recommended

> by the American Diabetes Assoc. is toomuch for most diabetics. the more

> exercise you do, the more carbs you need. If you do not do much in the

way

> of exercise, the fewer carbs you need. also, if you need to lose weight,

you

> need fewer carbs even if yo are exerciseing.

[Guest guest]

oh don't get me and Bill going on that one about doctors and medical

professionals losing money from us running good blood sugars *smile*

Regards,

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> > > > > > > > my last a1c was 11. ? how long does it take for sugars to

> get

> > > back

> > > > > to

> > > > > > > normal before one does that blood sugars test again?

> > > > > > > > Best regards,

> > > > > > > > Bonnecarre

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

[Guest guest]

As a general rule of thumb night time snacks are not a good idea for a

diabetic. The only exception I would recommend is a night time snack only

when the glucose level is low before going to bed. Even then it would be

wise to have a low carb snack, say one that contains only four or five grams

of carbs at most. One would have to do a glucose level check to determine

if the bedtime glucose level is under 70.

's time

> I was wondering if I should post my diet on here , and you guys can help

up with a better one? I went to the diabetic nurse and it went well.

she suggested that when taking the glucophatge in the evening, take it at

bed time with a snack. cause I would get a better result in the morning.

> Best regards,

> Bonnecarre

>

>

[Guest guest]

Theresa.

Post us a sample of your meals she has made you. I.E post us breakfast, lunch,

dinner and we can show you how to remove the quick acting carbs and give you

examples of low carb foods you can use to substitute the quick acting ones.

Regards,

's time

> I was wondering if I should post my diet on here , and you guys can help

up with a better one? I went to the diabetic nurse and it went well.

she suggested that when taking the glucophatge in the evening, take it at

bed time with a snack. cause I would get a better result in the morning.

> Best regards,

> Bonnecarre

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hello Breakfast: cereal, 1egg(boiled) 1c. milk or orange juice or 1slice

of toast and peanut butter. or eggs,bacon, and yogurt, and1glass of water.

Lunch: cheese sandwich, apple sauce (unsweetened) raw veggies. or lean meats

mid-morning snack raisins, two tbls nuts or yogurt. or fruit. Dinner: raw

or cooked veggies, lean meat (chicken or ground beef or fish etc.) or salad,

small potato or pasta. evening snack 1c, milk and graham crackers.

suggested items Aunt hatties light bread, and the recommened juices was

minute maid light and tropicana light or crystal. and iced tea. now I

must go cauce my stupid boyfriend is lifting heavy and needs my help!!

I'll find my info

Best regards,

Bonnecarre

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>

>

> > I was wondering if I should post my diet on here , and you guys can

help

> up with a better one? I went to the diabetic nurse and it went well.

> she suggested that when taking the glucophatge in the evening, take it

at

> bed time with a snack. cause I would get a better result in the morning.

> > Best regards,

> > Bonnecarre

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Harry,

Are you telling me that my wife, Crystal the Diabetic, should not have a

bowl of cereal with milk when she gets home from her job at about

midnight? Hahahehe hahahehe hahahehe (smiles)

Cy, The Ancient One...

Re: 's time

As a general rule of thumb night time snacks are not a good idea for a

diabetic. The only exception I would recommend is a night time snack

only when the glucose level is low before going to bed. Even then it

would be wise to have a low carb snack, say one that contains only four

or five grams of carbs at most. One would have to do a glucose level

check to determine if the bedtime glucose level is under 70.

's time

> I was wondering if I should post my diet on here , and you guys can

> help

up with a better one? I went to the diabetic nurse and it went well.

she suggested that when taking the glucophatge in the evening, take it

at bed time with a snack. cause I would get a better result in the

morning.

> Best regards,

> Bonnecarre

>

>

[Guest guest]

It is for the individual to figure out for themselves. People are on

different schedules. Some have breakfast at night. Some have breakfast in

the morning. Some have breakfast in the afternoon.

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>

>

> > I was wondering if I should post my diet on here , and you guys can

> > help

> up with a better one? I went to the diabetic nurse and it went well.

> she suggested that when taking the glucophatge in the evening, take it

> at bed time with a snack. cause I would get a better result in the

> morning.

> > Best regards,

> > Bonnecarre

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

revised meal plan Theresa...

Breakfast: 2 eggs (boiled) 1slice

of toast and peanut butter. or eggs,bacon, and cheese, and1glass of water.

Lunch: cheese sandwich with only 1 slice of bread, raw veggies. or lean

meats

mid-morning snack two tbls nuts or a tossed salad topped with meats, cheese,

or meat in general, pickles, olives, diet pop

Dinner:

raw or cooked veggies but no starchy ones like peas/corn/potatos/carrots,

lean meat (chicken or ground beef or fish etc.) or salad,

*very* small potato about the size of half a playing card like you play

poker with.

evening snack handful of walnuts, nuts, or some lunch meat, eggs, cheese,

olives, pickle, jello.

pitch all the following:

suggested items Aunt hatties light bread, and the recommened juices was

minute maid light and tropicana light or crystal. and iced tea. now I

Regards,

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> >

> >

> > > I was wondering if I should post my diet on here , and you guys can

> help

> > up with a better one? I went to the diabetic nurse and it went

well.

> > she suggested that when taking the glucophatge in the evening, take it

> at

> > bed time with a snack. cause I would get a better result in the

morning.

> > > Best regards,

> > > Bonnecarre

> > >

> > >

[Guest guest]

The meal plan you posted below is a pretty good one, provided a person is

not a diabetic. I would prefer you build your own meals from foods you like

and food items that have a low glycemic index.

Ask yourself if you like meats of all kinds, fish and poultry like chicken

and turkey. Do you like vegetables like cabbage, green beans, broccoli,

spinach turnips, onions, carrots, squash, and many more.

Ask yourself if you like nuts of all kinds. Ask yourself if you like

cheeses of all kinds.

Do you like eggs is a good thing to know.

Now build your own meal plan by reading the labels on the food products you

purchase. Make a list of all the foods you like that are low in carbs like

those mentioned above. A diabetic is highly recommended to eat at least two

salads each day, seven days per week for 365 days per year.

I love salads and I will give you an example of one I like.

Get a big salad bowl and fill it with lettuce, cabbage, some bits of onion,

maybe some tomato, cucumber, zukini, cheese, green peppers, some little

shreaded carrot, and put some oil and vinegar on it, maybe italian or even

ranch dressing, and toss the salad well. Salt and pepper it to your taste

and now enjoy. If you like, put some boiled eggs on it.

No crutons.

You may prefer to add ham, steak, turkey or tuna or salmon.

Now with all of this stuff, it makes an excellent salad and the whole thing

including dressing can be made to be less than 20 grams of carbs.

I love slaw made with just shreaded cabbage with italian dressing and salt

and pepper it to taste. It goes real well with a beef patty and one slice

of bread, and the whole thing is less than 20 grams of carbs.

So make a meal with items you like and experiment with new items when you

can.

Hey!, try throwing some nuts on your salad or slaw to add new flavors and

textures.

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> >

> >

> > > I was wondering if I should post my diet on here , and you guys can

> help

> > up with a better one? I went to the diabetic nurse and it went

well.

> > she suggested that when taking the glucophatge in the evening, take it

> at

> > bed time with a snack. cause I would get a better result in the

morning.

> > > Best regards,

> > > Bonnecarre

> > >

> > >

[Guest guest]

LOL, I like your sense of humor, and I can relate to some of the things you

said, since I had a family with similar problems.

To have all the special needs at once as you mentioned can be a real

nightmare!

It's amazing that many even survive.

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> >

> >

> > > I was wondering if I should post my diet on here , and you guys can

> > > help

> > up with a better one? I went to the diabetic nurse and it went

> well.

> > she suggested that when taking the glucophatge in the evening, take it

>

> > at bed time with a snack. cause I would get a better result in the

> > morning.

> > > Best regards,

> > > Bonnecarre

> > >

> > >

[Guest guest]

Harry,

We really did have five or six completely different requirements for

meals. One day my wife asked one of the " helpful " dieticians to prepare

a suggested menu for our family for a week's worth of meals. You know,

we never did hear from her!

I was amused at someone's comments about a dietician requiring the exact

measurement of food stuffs which could have just been avoided all

together.

My PKU daughter was a real education to us. When we adopted her we got

more information about how to prepare " special " foods for her

consumption. We used wheat starch (not flour), rice starch (yup, not

flour) and other such things to make bread and noodles for her. They

were truly awful, they came out sorta light blue in color and Susie

would not eat them.

After many years of trial and error we scrapped the recommended diets

and figured out what worked. Unlike Diabetics, PKU is less serious after

the development of the central nervous system and other neurological

development has ceased. We still have to watch the protein intake but it

is not nearly as serious as it once was.

A mainstay of Susie's diet today is applesauce. She loves it and the

myriad of different flavors makes a good variety for her. Her health has

been much better since we have arrived at the new diet.

Now, I guess I will address the issue of Crystal's Diabetes. I may be

sleeping in the tractor shed but we will overcome this small problem.

Cy, the Ancient One...

Re: 's time

LOL, I like your sense of humor, and I can relate to some of the things

you said, since I had a family with similar problems. To have all the

special needs at once as you mentioned can be a real nightmare! It's

amazing that many even survive.

's time

> >

> >

> > > I was wondering if I should post my diet on here , and you guys

> > > can help

> > up with a better one? I went to the diabetic nurse and it went

> well.

> > she suggested that when taking the glucophatge in the evening, take

> > it

>

> > at bed time with a snack. cause I would get a better result in the

> > morning.

> > > Best regards,

> > > Bonnecarre

> > >

> > >

[Guest guest]

How old is Crystal?

It sounds like you are the man to meet the challenge, and I wish you well.

Hey!, I think I saw your dietician in the psychiatric ward rambling on about

some impossible family diet plan.

<smile>

RE: 's time

> Harry,

> We really did have five or six completely different requirements for

> meals. One day my wife asked one of the " helpful " dieticians to prepare

> a suggested menu for our family for a week's worth of meals. You know,

> we never did hear from her!

> I was amused at someone's comments about a dietician requiring the exact

> measurement of food stuffs which could have just been avoided all

> together.

> My PKU daughter was a real education to us. When we adopted her we got

> more information about how to prepare " special " foods for her

> consumption. We used wheat starch (not flour), rice starch (yup, not

> flour) and other such things to make bread and noodles for her. They

> were truly awful, they came out sorta light blue in color and Susie

> would not eat them.

> After many years of trial and error we scrapped the recommended diets

> and figured out what worked. Unlike Diabetics, PKU is less serious after

> the development of the central nervous system and other neurological

> development has ceased. We still have to watch the protein intake but it

> is not nearly as serious as it once was.

> A mainstay of Susie's diet today is applesauce. She loves it and the

> myriad of different flavors makes a good variety for her. Her health has

> been much better since we have arrived at the new diet.

> Now, I guess I will address the issue of Crystal's Diabetes. I may be

> sleeping in the tractor shed but we will overcome this small problem.

> Cy, the Ancient One...

> -----

[Guest guest]

Just a little carrot will not be many carbs at all. Probably a little

carrot will be only two or three grams of carbs and it adds a slight sweet

flavor to your salads or slaw. Don't cry. You can drink all the diet tea

you like or just make it yourself. My tea has no carbs in it at all, and I

sweeten it with Splenda or stevia.

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> > > >

> > > >

> > > > > I was wondering if I should post my diet on here , and you guys

> can

> > > help

> > > > up with a better one? I went to the diabetic nurse and it went

> > well.

> > > > she suggested that when taking the glucophatge in the evening,

take

> it

> > > at

> > > > bed time with a snack. cause I would get a better result in the

> > morning.

> > > > > Best regards,

> > > > > Bonnecarre

> > > > >

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[Guest guest]

I use lipton is that ok? I don't know of any diet tea?

Best regards,

Bonnecarre

's time

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> > > > >

> > > > > > I was wondering if I should post my diet on here , and you

guys

> > can

> > > > help

> > > > > up with a better one? I went to the diabetic nurse and it

went

> > > well.

> > > > > she suggested that when taking the glucophatge in the evening,

> take

> > it

> > > > at

> > > > > bed time with a snack. cause I would get a better result in the

> > > morning.

> > > > > > Best regards,

> > > > > > Bonnecarre

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